I found the thumb grip doesn't get it the way at all. I use the Q menu often to switch between my preset options. It also makes holding the camera one handed all day perfectly comfortable. Like you say, I don't understand why people are moaning about the 'missing' controls. You can handle everything through the manual controls on the lens, the top plate, and the front button. What else is needed? Well, for anything else, I added them to the swipe functions on the screen. Bob is your proverbial.
This is how I have felt since day one of seeing this camera. All the reviews make it sound like such a pain to use because of the lack of buttons. All I keep thinking is "how many buttons do you really need?". The reality is, if you just take the time to setup the camera based on your shooting preferences, you'll find it has everything you need and nothing that you don't. Personally I like the fact that it doesn't have tons of buttons all over the place. I'm never going to use them all and on a small camera like this they just get in the way.
left swipe on the lcd is my focus mode selector, right swipe is focus type eg. single point/multi/zone, wheel press toggles between shutter speed and iso. Press in joystick you can wheel the focus point size. its really that easy. Lovely camera. I like the less buttons and reduced clutter. Everything is still there.
The focus switch and an ISO dial would have been “nice to have”. Being used to my T3, which is my main camera, i personally would also prefer to have these. But you can easily do without: I set the AEL/AFL-button to focus mode (S,C,M), the front wheel for ISO (and f-stop) and the Fn button for face recognition. These settings work perfect for me and having less buttons not only helps the classic look of this camera, especially when doing street photography or something similar i find it even better because it’s less distracting for me. Different people, different tastes, but i really like this camera a lot and couldn’t agree more: don’t let the lack of buttons hold you off from giving this fine camera a chance. 🙃
Ahhhh interesting! Thx for sharing your setup. I’ve been looking at the xe4 for a while but was deterred by the lack of buttons. Your perspective makes sense. :)
I'm using this camera as if it was an old analog camera. 99% old manual lenses w. a very basic set up. Never used the video function so far and never looked back to the buttons I used to have on my X E2. I've set the main menu to my liking which is how you ideally set it up by deleting all the functions you rarely or never use and by rearranging your main functions in the order that fits your work flow the best. All the functions you formally could access w. buttons now are as easily accessible as w. the buttons when setting up the ones left intelligently. It's my main walk around camera so memory on where is what plays a role too. All in all I fully embrace the lack of buttons in favour of a larger area to grab my big hands on and in favour of not accidentally hitting buttons without even noticing. IMO the X E4 is a masterpiece as for design and technical capability regarding photography. Personally I couldn't care less for the extra grip that so many people believe they couldn't live without. Most grips are just fugly and only good for ruining a camera's design. I'm using a leather half case which suits the style of the camera and helps the handling sufficiently even w. my big hands. I don't get the ISO fiddeling. I set the lowest ISO possible for a particular condition and go from there. That is using aperture and shutter speed. What else do you really need? All IMO
I just appreciate that you’re the only one I’ve seen that says you can press up in drive mode to switch to video. It’s so obvious, but every other reviewer makes a point to say you have to “scroll all the way to the bottom for video” in an exasperated way, to an almost disingenuous degree making it seem so tedious. Like for real - just press up. The end. Great video by the way. Coming from an X-Pro 2 and x100f, I just bought an X-E4 recently and really looking forward to it shipping soon with all the backorders.
It’s a $850 camera body, I have it and love it I shoot in both MF and AF, & I prefer shooting with it over my XT3, people need to quit crying about a damn button 😂 like I said ITS $850 wtf y’all expect. Anyways great video bro 🙌🏽
Your absolutely right, the lack of buttons is so easy to work around. I got the E-X4 as a b cam to X-T3, I wasn't expecting to use the E4 a whole lot. The X-T3 sits on the shelf till the weather turns bad. I never question taking the E4 with me like I did with the T3.
I have had both the X-T3 and X-Pro3 and sold them. Now I have the X-S10 and the X-E4 is in the mail. People talk about the X-T series og cameras giving an analog experience. This is completely wrong in my opinion. For me an analog experience was my Nikkormat FTn which I bought in 1969. You set the aperture on the lens and the shutterspeed on the camera. Since I generally used the same film, I did not alter the ISO setting. That was the analog experience. The X-T3 may look analog, but it is nothing like it.
Liked AND Subscribed. THANK YOU! I mentioned most of this on "Big Head Taco"s video a few weeks ago. I can control the Exposure Triangle from outside of the menu. I use AF-S, AutoISO and AutoWB, so just like with an old film body where I wasn't switching ISO shot to shot, but Roll to Roll (rarely) so as long as I have access to AV, SS and +/- EV...I'm a happy camper with fewer buttons and dials to bump. MOSTLY I change my aperture on the run to control my Depth of Focus. I don't need to assign the rear command dial (or the second tap of the front command dial) to the Shutter Speed as so many do, because we HAVE a dedicated Shutter Speed dial. Personally, I'm not particularly a street shooter, but I use the flip LCD on my Fujis a good bit of the time for work (as a Real Estate Photographer) and for fun when I'm shooting low...instead of trying to get on the ground to frame a show of something a foot high, I can just flip out the LCD...OR when I need to shoot over the heads of a crowd I can tilt the LCD down so that I can frame my shot at arms length above my head. FWIW, I saved myself $170 (US) and cancelled the Fuji Grip and Fuji Thumbrest (which at the time were STILL on back order) because I found that the Lensmate LM-XE3 thumbrest fits this camera PERFECTLY (as does the Haoge thumrest for the X-E3/X100V)...I also purchased a $14 FlipBac stick on G4 'grip' for the front and that offers just enough grip to make it comfortable in the hand without adding significant bulk/weight to the body. The only place I think Fuji really dropped the ball on this (having fixed the LCD rotation bug you mention being fixed with the firmware update) is that the ribbon that connects the LCD is VERY exposed when the LCD is out away from the camera. My X-PRO3 had a protective bit over the ribbon on it's (odd) flip down LCD. To fix this, I put two layers of electrical tape on the ribbon to help protect it. The other quirk (though minor) is that the strap lugs are the dumb X-A1 style...to fix that, I just made 'strap extenders' to use with my Peak Design Anchor Links. Problems solved and this is the camera that I've been waiting for Fuji to make since I first held my X-E2 and wished that it had the LCD of my X-T1 and the smaller size of my X-20. I like this camera so much that I sold all of my other X-E bodies. Traded my X-PRO3 for an X100V and WCL and also bought an X-T30...Now all three of my main bodies have the same sensor, processor and flip LCD...I can use all 18 of my lenses and also have leaf shutter and build in ND when I need them. Life if GOOD.
Thanks for your experience with this camera. I’m sure others will find it helpful. Fujifilm never stated in their latest firmware that the screen bug was fixed but I’ve not had the issue since. Someone in the comments said their camera still did it, can you confirm yours no longer has this issue? Many Thanks 📷
@@StreetsWideOpen My X-E4 still 'flips' the image if I get my camera body to close to my human body with the LCD flipped out. IF I extend the LCD all the way out away from the camera, my body is not close enough to make the screen thinks I want to be in 'selfie' mode. Of course, pulling the LCD that far out away from the body makes me nervous, the LCD ribbon that connect the screen to the camera's processor is largely unprotected, but it is ONE option to keep the flipping down.
Thanks for the great review. I've watched many concerning this camera and your take is the best. I've subbed. :-) Can you please create a video how you setup your X-E4 in terms of the settings? The 3 iso groups is a great idea. Would love to hear what other things you set in the menu. Thank you!
So do I. It's a great camera, I don't really shoot much video on the fuji's but I took it out today to try the video and it's also pretty good. Thanks for your comment.
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I really enjoyed this and I can't agree with you more. I ordered this bad boy, still waiting for it but I know it will be great and that so many times people complain about things that are not that big of a deal and every Tom Dick and Harry just perpetuates the same complaints they heard from other people. This reminds me of how people complained so much about the Sony menu system and that they had to google to find settings etc. I spent an hour or two with mine to understand which settings are most relevant to me, set them up in the quick menu system and never had to go into the menu again unless I wanted to set something very, very specific. This camera is not meant to be another space ship with 10000 dials, switches and levers, it is for those who want a simple to use, powerful and COMPACT camera. When you put all these switches and bits and bobs in it will no longer be a compact camera. A small camera with big performance like this one has to make many compromises
People complain about anything. I program a FN button for ISO and the AEL for film simulation. As for using manual or auto lenses I make two Custom settings C1 and C2 - How hard can it be. This is a great camera at a great price. Sure the Pro3 is a good, maybe better camera, but with a bit of customizing before you go out and you have a equally as good camera. Love the review. Cheers form Australia
Liked and subscribed. I pre-ordered the X-E4 as soon as it was announced back in January. My first Fuji camera and a move from shooting Canon SLRs for years. I was sick of carrying heavy gear up mountains to take photos. I'm so happy I made the move to Fuji and love how compact the X-E4 is. I'm shooting with a load of vintage lenses and it's perfect, I don't notice the buttons missing as all the lenses (apart from the fuji 27mm pancake) are manual focus.
@callmelewy I made the same move, from Canon to Fuji, so I'm glad I finally found someone who already has experience with the switch. Bought 2 lenses (10-24 and 55-200), and am looking for a small, light and compact body to complement it with. I assume you're shooting landscapes ('carrying up the mountains'). I'm considering the X-E4 or the X-S10, and am in doubt which one to buy. I never had a camera with ibis, so I'm not sure what it is I'm missing. Both my lenses are stabilised, but I'm unaware if you can compare this to the degree of stabilisation ibis offers. Stills with a telelens and ibis could be helpful, and I'm going to use the camera for video. Not in a run&gun style (I have a tripod), but for handheld shots ibis makes up for shake and jitter. My apologies for the long story.......:)
Great video man. My xe4 is getting warm at the bottom (tripod area) while clicking picture's. Is it normal to get Slightly warm or is there some defect?
I thought I’d really notice the different position but once I was out using it I didn’t really think about it, so I guess it didn’t bother me. I have some paint pens & just filled it in over the top.
Interesting to hear your thoughts on this, I am considering the XE4 but weirdly the main thing I don't like is the new design for the lugs, I am not sure if my favourite straps will fit these lugs and I don't like the supplied Fuji ones. However I notice that you don't use a neck anyway, maybe I can use a wrist strap?
I either use a wrist strap or sometimes the sort that screw into the tripod mount. Like this one: Black Rapid Curve Breathe Classic Strap www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01LFODBW8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_WQYFEXZK28MDY938C43E
@@StreetsWideOpen if it moves you - you should. I support and encourage it. Just picked up the XE4 as a second body myself. The position of the joystick compared to the V and the XT4 is a bit of an annoyance … but hey…
I see what you're saying about the d-pad and I'm sure you can get by without it but I prefer having it by miles. I also edit all my photos in-camera and can now do it pretty much blindfolded in seconds with the d-pad. It's honestly the main reason I'm still carrying around this beaten up XT20. I think my d-pad days are numbered tho as I prefer the smaller form factor of the XT** and XE* line and don't see the pad making a return.
I thought I’d miss the D pad on the 100v but I’m so used to not having it. I have been shooting a lot of JPEG’s lately & then do I minor edit on my phone & that’s it. Less buttons is just something you get used to. Thanks for commenting.
The lack of buttons is one main reasons I don’t expand past m4/3 that I’ll always stick with but wanted to try more. I despise the toggle button and use the d pad instead for everything. I remember I was going to buy the x100v when announced and found out it didn’t have the dpad.
The focus select switch is something I really would miss, it's sometyhing I use quite a lot to go from Continuous to Single. Som lenses are rubbish with c-focus since they hunt like crazy, oher then that it's a great looking camera. I think I'll stick to my X-T30 when I need a tiny camera.
I did seriously consider the xt30 which is a great camera for the money. If the AF switch is something you use a lot it’s understandable. Thanks for your input.
Might be a bit late, but I can't agree with this mentality. I switched from sony to Fuji because of their easy access controls without going through menus (later, stayed for the image quality of course). To justify lack of features because you don't use them often is like saying my smartphone doesn't need to make phone calls anymore because I hardly use it to call people. I firmly believe to hold Fuji onto the Kaizen mindset we should always point out the good and the bad direction they're heading in. Just my 2 cents.
It might be a good idea to wait a while, I think there’s going to be some quality new stuff coming from Fujifilm, those new sensors are going to bring out the quality in the new Fujifilm 1.4 lenses. Thanks for your comment 📷
You are making me reconsider now. I was going to get a £350 new XE3 mainly because of the lack of grips. Will have to try the XE4 in store. I don't need the extra buttons, and could get used to the focus dial digitally.
You can also use the swipe feature to change the focus mode. I am doing that with my xe4 and it works quite well - I can even change the focus mode while looking into evf.
@@FelixLim I don't use touchscreens because of the way that I use cameras, but I have half of my XE2 buttons set to None, so it shouldn't be an issue to set one to do it. Anyway, nearest store is out of stock again (only have both in silver) so its back to GAS. Missed the boat with the XE3 sale.
I had the X100S for a while. My main gripe about that camera WAS the D pad. I could never get used to using that. Couldnt find my way around the menus, and go frustrated. Sold the camera. Now, having second thoughts again about the X100F or V, but honestly the V is really too much money. The XE-4 or XE-3 is appealing to me.
Great, honest review. Must say I’m tempted to try one to compliment my X100V, sometimes the ability not to be able to change the lens is frustrating. Using the converters on the X100V has helped, but having access to the full range of lenses would be good. 👍📷👍
Thanks Chris. I had seen a few reviews & a lot of comments were moaning about the lack of buttons, I think if you’re used to the new fujifilm camera’s without the D pad then those people won’t have a problem with this camera. I find once I have a camera set up how I like it I rarely change it. I love it that I have a similar size camera as the 100v & I can change lenses, I never got on with the converters & just stopped using the one I had for my 100f. I’m using the XE4 & 35mm 1.4 combo all the time & I bring out the v if I need something wider.
@@StreetsWideOpen I don’t mind the converters to be honest, the tele one is the one I use the most. That said I love the 85mm focal length for street that I use on my Canon and wish I had the Fuji equivalent. As you mentioned the lack of buttons isn’t an issue because like you once I’m set to go nothing changes to much.
You are absolutely right on. I’m so sick of hearing people gripe just to gripe. None of their complaints about this camera is justified. Bitching to bitch. Btw, I had the x100f and the only thing I didn’t like was the weak shutter sound. I’m glad the x-e4 has a nice shutter. And if I need silence I could put in electronic.
I use my buttons a LOT. I am constantly changing settings and the MCS button is the biggest issue for me. I shoot manual a lot, I also shoot AP in all three settings in a given session. Yes you may not miss most buttons but understand that many of us don't always shoot in AF S. I own three Fuji X flagship bodies for pro work but I'm also a daily X-E user since 2012 with all three iterations and a X100 series user and the X-E4 did not impress me once I got it in my hands [except for the tilt screen]. Now what was an instantaneous flick of a switch without taking your eye off the EVF and subject is now is a three step process in the menu > Not Acceptable! as I depend on dedicated controls for quick random settings I use constantly. Fuji over the years were at least consistent with amount of button/wheel control but this felt like an incomplete camera. Honestly this camera operates like my a6000, which I cant stand and is now collecting dust on my shelf.
I don't always shoot in AF-S and on the X-E4 I press one button to open up Focus Mode and then flick the joystick once to select Manual. Even have it on the touchscreen, swipe and choose. That doesn't work for you and that is fine. For others like me, it is fine. "Not Acceptable"? Choose a camera body that you like, it's not rocket science.
@@artsilva How is saying that if something doesn't work for you it's fine and you should therefore choose a camera body you like, trolling? I guess you are one of those people who throw the word "troll" around when you don't agree with another opinion....newsflash: that is not what trolling is.
Hi Streets wide open! I am very pleased to hear your opinion on this beautiful looking camera! I have it on order myself, with the 27mm 2.8 lens, and cant wait to shoot with it! But please, can you tell me, just how small the EVF actually is on the XE4??? I have been trying to find out from several reviewers, and apparently it is actually very small, in fact smaller then the EVF on my old X100T, but is it usable? looking forward to your feed back, buddy. Keep shooting!
Apparently same as XE3 which is bad for approximately a third of people. The XE2 was bigger and much nicer to use as a glasses wearer. One reason I didn’t fancy the XE4, but its not a horrible EVF, you just need to line it up better and get closer, so it’s slower to use than a bigger one like on the XT3 which is 10 times better.
@@blood_n_guts_murphy Thanks for that buddy! I guess it's probable like the EVF on my Lumix GX9 then!?!? that one is small, and as you have rightly described, you have to kind of line it up with your eye, so to speak!?!? Thanks for letting me know mate!
I really don’t have a problem with the EVF, I know some don’t like it. I’ve used cameras with worse, I have no trouble lining it up or reading the information I have set. Not as good as the v but I don’t find it a problem. Try one out in store if you can.
I agree about trying in store as everyone is different. I actually started considering an XT20 today to use with its similar flip screen and pretty much ignore the EVF. The XE4 having the moving LCD will at least make up for the small EVF.
I’m just assuming Fuji had fixed this in the latest firmware as my screen hasn’t had the issue since. I’ve been constantly using it with the screen flipped out as well, if mine was still doing it I think I would seriously think about sending it back. I’m going to keep trying it with the screen out to be sure.
I'm really happy with mine. I was worried by the negative reviews, re the lack of buttons, but bought it anyway as I am familiar with fuji cameras. I went for a diver as all my other this are black, wanted a change. It's a lovely camera, particularly with the 27mms lens.
You’re bang on there, it’s not for everyone and different people have different needs. But If you shoot a certain way this camera could be a great match. Thanks.
I entirely second your opinion. Great share. BTW from the way you speak, did you manage to not wake up the baby? Or did you try to hide from getting busted by your wife for having bought an other camera? ;) It's useless, she'll find out anyway, I tell ya ;)
@@StreetsWideOpen Sorry for being misleading. What I meant was that the volume of your voice sounds like you had a baby, that you didn't want to wake up from sleeping in the other room. ;)
your the one "moaning" about people who want a reasonable amount of key switches. Fuji went El cheapo with this, I stand by wanting a another function button and real switch for SCM in front, and rear dial.... Many like me hate swipe commands and constant menu diving
how you gonna say a 3-4 click step is the same as 1?? just because u like shooting auto not everybody does. there r many shooting styles. if this was the only minimalist body it'd be ok for those that dont care about buttons but most fuji shooters got in the system because of the buttons. yes buttons r good they save time, having to go into the menus for basic control is steps backwards.. ps that was just an ignorant statement in the beginning, only makes sense for people that dont change their settings on a regular. just get a normal point and shoot if you shoot auto like that..
There was no ISO dial on the X-E1, 2 or 3 yet you don't complain about that. ISO is one side of the exposure triangle and far more important than a Focus Mode selector, yet the mythical "most fuji shooters" you claim to speak for were not bothered about missing an absolutely critical ISO dial off all of the X-E camera models. You had to use a programmable button for ISO! It is not, "a 3-4 click step" to swap Focus Mode. If switching Focus Mode is important to you then it is ONE button press and ONE flick of the joystick to switch from S to M. It is ONE button press and ONE flick of the joystick to switch back from M to S. Of course you can assign it to the touchscreen or have it in the Q menu, or even have a custom settings than when switched also puts the camera into manual focus. I have both the X-E3 and X-E4 so know what I am talking about.
also changin focus is at least 3 clicks, perhaps if you dont start the video with that ingorant statement nobody would have said anything but obviously you must think that the way you shoot is the only way. nah.. its not.. have good one
@@fredbloggs545 no offense, and I dont mean to be negative, but obviously you have no idea how some people use the focus switch when shooting. ps you should look at your video and count at least 3 button pushes versus one easy flick on the on the side or front of the camera that u can get to without taking your eye off the viewfinder. i rest my case..
Seems that it has that lovely yellow tinted LCD that they all have now since the X-T2. It a disgrace they can’t even calibrate them before they leave the factory. B&W should be black and white.. not sepia. People having issues with LCD/EVF being yellow tinted all over.
I don't see sepia on my X-E3 or X-E4. You are seeing the colour profile used for this video not the actual colour of the LCD when seen with your eyes. The black camera body looks yellow/brown on this video so the LCD will too.
Sad to see this model has a yellow warming tint on the lcd as well. Since 2019 Fujifilm have ceased to calibrate their lcds and they all have this shitty warming tint so even the b&w acros looks a sepia color. Only GFX is calibrated to perfect color just like the X-T1 and others until 2018 were when sold. Now they don’t give a shit about the colour and people who actually care.
See how the Fujifilm XE4 handles video and how good are the focus modes here
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I found the thumb grip doesn't get it the way at all. I use the Q menu often to switch between my preset options. It also makes holding the camera one handed all day perfectly comfortable. Like you say, I don't understand why people are moaning about the 'missing' controls. You can handle everything through the manual controls on the lens, the top plate, and the front button. What else is needed? Well, for anything else, I added them to the swipe functions on the screen. Bob is your proverbial.
This is how I have felt since day one of seeing this camera. All the reviews make it sound like such a pain to use because of the lack of buttons. All I keep thinking is "how many buttons do you really need?". The reality is, if you just take the time to setup the camera based on your shooting preferences, you'll find it has everything you need and nothing that you don't. Personally I like the fact that it doesn't have tons of buttons all over the place. I'm never going to use them all and on a small camera like this they just get in the way.
these x100V worshipers want their phone to be the best but for me personally the xe4 is better
I absolutely LOVE my xe4❤️
Bloody hell. A Plain Speaking Photographer . . . Non-pretentious working men/women always provide the best advice. Thumbs up.
Cheers for that 👍🏻
left swipe on the lcd is my focus mode selector, right swipe is focus type eg. single point/multi/zone, wheel press toggles between shutter speed and iso. Press in joystick you can wheel the focus point size. its really that easy. Lovely camera. I like the less buttons and reduced clutter. Everything is still there.
Totally agree, so over the moaners, the X-E4 is just so inspiring to use.
great shots at the end of the video! 👍
Thank you 🙏🏻
And thanks for watching 📷
The focus switch and an ISO dial would have been “nice to have”. Being used to my T3, which is my main camera, i personally would also prefer to have these. But you can easily do without: I set the AEL/AFL-button to focus mode (S,C,M), the front wheel for ISO (and f-stop) and the Fn button for face recognition. These settings work perfect for me and having less buttons not only helps the classic look of this camera, especially when doing street photography or something similar i find it even better because it’s less distracting for me. Different people, different tastes, but i really like this camera a lot and couldn’t agree more: don’t let the lack of buttons hold you off from giving this fine camera a chance. 🙃
Ahhhh interesting! Thx for sharing your setup. I’ve been looking at the xe4 for a while but was deterred by the lack of buttons. Your perspective makes sense. :)
I'm using this camera as if it was an old analog camera. 99% old manual lenses w. a very basic set up. Never used the video function so far and never looked back to the buttons I used to have on my X E2. I've set the main menu to my liking which is how you ideally set it up by deleting all the functions you rarely or never use and by rearranging your main functions in the order that fits your work flow the best. All the functions you formally could access w. buttons now are as easily accessible as w. the buttons when setting up the ones left intelligently. It's my main walk around camera so memory on where is what plays a role too. All in all I fully embrace the lack of buttons in favour of a larger area to grab my big hands on and in favour of not accidentally hitting buttons without even noticing. IMO the X E4 is a masterpiece as for design and technical capability regarding photography. Personally I couldn't care less for the extra grip that so many people believe they couldn't live without. Most grips are just fugly and only good for ruining a camera's design. I'm using a leather half case which suits the style of the camera and helps the handling sufficiently even w. my big hands. I don't get the ISO fiddeling. I set the lowest ISO possible for a particular condition and go from there. That is using aperture and shutter speed. What else do you really need? All IMO
you simply don‘t need more buttons and dials - perfect compact camera - forget to use my x-t3 since I have the X-E4 - probalby going to sell it
Definitely getting one. Perfect for street photography
I just appreciate that you’re the only one I’ve seen that says you can press up in drive mode to switch to video. It’s so obvious, but every other reviewer makes a point to say you have to “scroll all the way to the bottom for video” in an exasperated way, to an almost disingenuous degree making it seem so tedious. Like for real - just press up. The end. Great video by the way. Coming from an X-Pro 2 and x100f, I just bought an X-E4 recently and really looking forward to it shipping soon with all the backorders.
Thanks.
Hope you enjoy the camera.
Finally! Thanks for the most sensible review of this camera to date. Subscribed!
Thanks Peter.
It’s a $850 camera body, I have it and love it I shoot in both MF and AF, & I prefer shooting with it over my XT3, people need to quit crying about a damn button 😂 like I said ITS $850 wtf y’all expect. Anyways great video bro 🙌🏽
Thanks for sharing your views 👍🏻 appreciate it.
Your absolutely right, the lack of buttons is so easy to work around. I got the E-X4 as a b cam to X-T3, I wasn't expecting to use the E4 a whole lot. The X-T3 sits on the shelf till the weather turns bad. I never question taking the E4 with me like I did with the T3.
I have had both the X-T3 and X-Pro3 and sold them. Now I have the X-S10 and the X-E4 is in the mail. People talk about the X-T series og cameras giving an analog experience. This is completely wrong in my opinion. For me an analog experience was my Nikkormat FTn which I bought in 1969. You set the aperture on the lens and the shutterspeed on the camera. Since I generally used the same film, I did not alter the ISO setting. That was the analog experience. The X-T3 may look analog, but it is nothing like it.
What did you use to black out the logos?
A paint marker pen.
Liked AND Subscribed. THANK YOU! I mentioned most of this on "Big Head Taco"s video a few weeks ago.
I can control the Exposure Triangle from outside of the menu. I use AF-S, AutoISO and AutoWB, so just like with an old film body where I wasn't switching ISO shot to shot, but Roll to Roll (rarely) so as long as I have access to AV, SS and +/- EV...I'm a happy camper with fewer buttons and dials to bump. MOSTLY I change my aperture on the run to control my Depth of Focus. I don't need to assign the rear command dial (or the second tap of the front command dial) to the Shutter Speed as so many do, because we HAVE a dedicated Shutter Speed dial.
Personally, I'm not particularly a street shooter, but I use the flip LCD on my Fujis a good bit of the time for work (as a Real Estate Photographer) and for fun when I'm shooting low...instead of trying to get on the ground to frame a show of something a foot high, I can just flip out the LCD...OR when I need to shoot over the heads of a crowd I can tilt the LCD down so that I can frame my shot at arms length above my head.
FWIW, I saved myself $170 (US) and cancelled the Fuji Grip and Fuji Thumbrest (which at the time were STILL on back order) because I found that the Lensmate LM-XE3 thumbrest fits this camera PERFECTLY (as does the Haoge thumrest for the X-E3/X100V)...I also purchased a $14 FlipBac stick on G4 'grip' for the front and that offers just enough grip to make it comfortable in the hand without adding significant bulk/weight to the body.
The only place I think Fuji really dropped the ball on this (having fixed the LCD rotation bug you mention being fixed with the firmware update) is that the ribbon that connects the LCD is VERY exposed when the LCD is out away from the camera. My X-PRO3 had a protective bit over the ribbon on it's (odd) flip down LCD. To fix this, I put two layers of electrical tape on the ribbon to help protect it. The other quirk (though minor) is that the strap lugs are the dumb X-A1 style...to fix that, I just made 'strap extenders' to use with my Peak Design Anchor Links. Problems solved and this is the camera that I've been waiting for Fuji to make since I first held my X-E2 and wished that it had the LCD of my X-T1 and the smaller size of my X-20.
I like this camera so much that I sold all of my other X-E bodies. Traded my X-PRO3 for an X100V and WCL and also bought an X-T30...Now all three of my main bodies have the same sensor, processor and flip LCD...I can use all 18 of my lenses and also have leaf shutter and build in ND when I need them. Life if GOOD.
Thanks for your experience with this camera. I’m sure others will find it helpful.
Fujifilm never stated in their latest firmware that the screen bug was fixed but I’ve not had the issue since.
Someone in the comments said their camera still did it, can you confirm yours no longer has this issue?
Many Thanks 📷
@@StreetsWideOpen My X-E4 still 'flips' the image if I get my camera body to close to my human body with the LCD flipped out. IF I extend the LCD all the way out away from the camera, my body is not close enough to make the screen thinks I want to be in 'selfie' mode. Of course, pulling the LCD that far out away from the body makes me nervous, the LCD ribbon that connect the screen to the camera's processor is largely unprotected, but it is ONE option to keep the flipping down.
Thanks for the great review. I've watched many concerning this camera and your take is the best. I've subbed. :-) Can you please create a video how you setup your X-E4 in terms of the settings? The 3 iso groups is a great idea. Would love to hear what other things you set in the menu. Thank you!
I agree. I love the xe4 with less buttons. Set up the quick menu and slow down.
So do I. It's a great camera, I don't really shoot much video on the fuji's but I took it out today to try the video and it's also pretty good. Thanks for your comment.
Great video, thank you, this helps my decision a lot, where did you get the grip for your xe-4 ? Thx again.
Amazon.
JJC Metal Hand Grip Quick Release Plate L Bracket Holder for Fujifilm X-E4 XE4 Replaces Fuji MHG-XE4 Hand Grip www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B09539PJQ6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_2AKVZJ8CEEMTV99D5CZ4?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
I really enjoyed this and I can't agree with you more. I ordered this bad boy, still waiting for it but I know it will be great and that so many times people complain about things that are not that big of a deal and every Tom Dick and Harry just perpetuates the same complaints they heard from other people. This reminds me of how people complained so much about the Sony menu system and that they had to google to find settings etc. I spent an hour or two with mine to understand which settings are most relevant to me, set them up in the quick menu system and never had to go into the menu again unless I wanted to set something very, very specific. This camera is not meant to be another space ship with 10000 dials, switches and levers, it is for those who want a simple to use, powerful and COMPACT camera. When you put all these switches and bits and bobs in it will no longer be a compact camera. A small camera with big performance like this one has to make many compromises
People complain about anything. I program a FN button for ISO and the AEL for film simulation. As for using manual or auto lenses I make two Custom settings C1 and C2 - How hard can it be. This is a great camera at a great price. Sure the Pro3 is a good, maybe better camera, but with a bit of customizing before you go out and you have a equally as good camera. Love the review. Cheers form Australia
Many thanks 🙏🏻
Liked and subscribed. I pre-ordered the X-E4 as soon as it was announced back in January. My first Fuji camera and a move from shooting Canon SLRs for years. I was sick of carrying heavy gear up mountains to take photos. I'm so happy I made the move to Fuji and love how compact the X-E4 is. I'm shooting with a load of vintage lenses and it's perfect, I don't notice the buttons missing as all the lenses (apart from the fuji 27mm pancake) are manual focus.
It’s a great little camera.
@callmelewy I made the same move, from Canon to Fuji, so I'm glad I finally found someone who already has experience with the switch. Bought 2 lenses (10-24 and 55-200), and am looking for a small, light and compact body to complement it with. I assume you're shooting landscapes ('carrying up the mountains'). I'm considering the X-E4 or the X-S10, and am in doubt which one to buy. I never had a camera with ibis, so I'm not sure what it is I'm missing. Both my lenses are stabilised, but I'm unaware if you can compare this to the degree of stabilisation ibis offers. Stills with a telelens and ibis could be helpful, and I'm going to use the camera for video. Not in a run&gun style (I have a tripod), but for handheld shots ibis makes up for shake and jitter. My apologies for the long story.......:)
Very interesting approach ! I'm seriously considering to get one for my ski touring trips, but it lacks weather resistance.
Great video man. My xe4 is getting warm at the bottom (tripod area) while clicking picture's. Is it normal to get Slightly warm or is there some defect?
I’ve never had that problem, but I never use a tripod.
Maybe ask on some Fujifilm forums.
Great practical review! How does the lower joy-stick position feel? And, how did you blackout the branding?
I thought I’d really notice the different position but once I was out using it I didn’t really think about it, so I guess it didn’t bother me.
I have some paint pens & just filled it in over the top.
Thx for sharing Man! I will go for xe4 ✨✌️ very good review btw!
Thank you.
Enjoy the camera 📷
Great honest straight up view of this camera. I have the X-E4 myself and I still miss the AF selector. Otherwise it’s a great camera.
Interesting to hear your thoughts on this, I am considering the XE4 but weirdly the main thing I don't like is the new design for the lugs, I am not sure if my favourite straps will fit these lugs and I don't like the supplied Fuji ones. However I notice that you don't use a neck anyway, maybe I can use a wrist strap?
I either use a wrist strap or sometimes the sort that screw into the tripod mount.
Like this one: Black Rapid Curve Breathe Classic Strap www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01LFODBW8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_WQYFEXZK28MDY938C43E
Nice work on this one. Great shots, thank you for sharing
Thanks Joe 👍🏻
Nice video. Awesome eye for detail, mood and color. Keep it up. Just subbed
Thanks.
I haven’t made any videos for a while, but hopefully I’ll get back to it soon.
@@StreetsWideOpen if it moves you - you should. I support and encourage it. Just picked up the XE4 as a second body myself. The position of the joystick compared to the V and the XT4 is a bit of an annoyance … but hey…
Do u think it’s a all round video blogging and photography camera?
I see what you're saying about the d-pad and I'm sure you can get by without it but I prefer having it by miles. I also edit all my photos in-camera and can now do it pretty much blindfolded in seconds with the d-pad. It's honestly the main reason I'm still carrying around this beaten up XT20. I think my d-pad days are numbered tho as I prefer the smaller form factor of the XT** and XE* line and don't see the pad making a return.
I thought I’d miss the D pad on the 100v but I’m so used to not having it. I have been shooting a lot of JPEG’s lately & then do I minor edit on my phone & that’s it.
Less buttons is just something you get used to.
Thanks for commenting.
The lack of buttons is one main reasons I don’t expand past m4/3 that I’ll always stick with but wanted to try more. I despise the toggle button and use the d pad instead for everything. I remember I was going to buy the x100v when announced and found out it didn’t have the dpad.
The focus select switch is something I really would miss, it's sometyhing I use quite a lot to go from Continuous to Single. Som lenses are rubbish with c-focus since they hunt like crazy, oher then that it's a great looking camera. I think I'll stick to my X-T30 when I need a tiny camera.
I did seriously consider the xt30 which is a great camera for the money. If the AF switch is something you use a lot it’s understandable. Thanks for your input.
How did you black out the logos? Looks sharp
Just use waterproof marker.
If you set the camera to manuel focus, can you use the AEL/AFL button as a back focus button? Thank you for sharing this informatice video.
I’m not sure as I never use back button focus so I’ve never tried it.
Might be a bit late, but I can't agree with this mentality. I switched from sony to Fuji because of their easy access controls without going through menus (later, stayed for the image quality of course). To justify lack of features because you don't use them often is like saying my smartphone doesn't need to make phone calls anymore because I hardly use it to call people. I firmly believe to hold Fuji onto the Kaizen mindset we should always point out the good and the bad direction they're heading in. Just my 2 cents.
I like buttons, but you don't miss them on this camera.
I don't use the additional grips, I reused the little thin wrist strap from a Fujifilm XP90!
It's a tough choice for me between the xe4, xt30ii or possibly wait a few months to see what's to come from Fujifilm with a new sensor..
The choice between the X-E4 and X-T30II is easy, choose the one with the ergonomics and EVF placement that you prefer. It really is that simple.
It might be a good idea to wait a while, I think there’s going to be some quality new stuff coming from Fujifilm, those new sensors are going to bring out the quality in the new Fujifilm 1.4 lenses.
Thanks for your comment 📷
You are making me reconsider now. I was going to get a £350 new XE3 mainly because of the lack of grips. Will have to try the XE4 in store. I don't need the extra buttons, and could get used to the focus dial digitally.
Thanks for all the info buddy! Changing the subject slightly! The EVF on the X100V is really nice I would guess! 🤘
You can also use the swipe feature to change the focus mode. I am doing that with my xe4 and it works quite well - I can even change the focus mode while looking into evf.
@@FelixLim I don't use touchscreens because of the way that I use cameras, but I have half of my XE2 buttons set to None, so it shouldn't be an issue to set one to do it. Anyway, nearest store is out of stock again (only have both in silver) so its back to GAS. Missed the boat with the XE3 sale.
If you’re unsure it’s always best to try one out in store first if you can.
@@StreetsWideOpen Yeah I guess! Thanks buddy
I had the X100S for a while. My main gripe about that camera WAS the D pad. I could never get used to using that. Couldnt find my way around the menus, and go frustrated. Sold the camera. Now, having second thoughts again about the X100F or V, but honestly the V is really too much money. The XE-4 or XE-3 is appealing to me.
The 100v & XE4 are both excellent cameras, if you need to change lenses then the XE4 is the one.
Great, honest review. Must say I’m tempted to try one to compliment my X100V, sometimes the ability not to be able to change the lens is frustrating. Using the converters on the X100V has helped, but having access to the full range of lenses would be good. 👍📷👍
Thanks Chris. I had seen a few reviews & a lot of comments were moaning about the lack of buttons, I think if you’re used to the new fujifilm camera’s without the D pad then those people won’t have a problem with this camera. I find once I have a camera set up how I like it I rarely change it.
I love it that I have a similar size camera as the 100v & I can change lenses, I never got on with the converters & just stopped using the one I had for my 100f.
I’m using the XE4 & 35mm 1.4 combo all the time & I bring out the v if I need something wider.
@@StreetsWideOpen I don’t mind the converters to be honest, the tele one is the one I use the most. That said I love the 85mm focal length for street that I use on my Canon and wish I had the Fuji equivalent. As you mentioned the lack of buttons isn’t an issue because like you once I’m set to go nothing changes to much.
Of course the issue with the converters is that you are still stuck with f2 being the widest aperture. You can't put a 35mm f/0.95 on the X100V :)
You are absolutely right on. I’m so sick of hearing people gripe just to gripe. None of their complaints about this camera is justified. Bitching to bitch. Btw, I had the x100f and the only thing I didn’t like was the weak shutter sound. I’m glad the x-e4 has a nice shutter. And if I need silence I could put in electronic.
Thanks Jason, appreciate you taking the time to comment.
What camera are you filming on
I use my buttons a LOT. I am constantly changing settings and the MCS button is the biggest issue for me. I shoot manual a lot, I also shoot AP in all three settings in a given session.
Yes you may not miss most buttons but understand that many of us don't always shoot in AF S. I own three Fuji X flagship bodies for pro work but I'm also a daily X-E user since 2012 with all three iterations and a X100 series user and the X-E4 did not impress me once I got it in my hands [except for the tilt screen].
Now what was an instantaneous flick of a switch without taking your eye off the EVF and subject is now is a three step process in the menu > Not Acceptable! as I depend on dedicated controls for quick random settings I use constantly. Fuji over the years were at least consistent with amount of button/wheel control but this felt like an incomplete camera.
Honestly this camera operates like my a6000, which I cant stand and is now collecting dust on my shelf.
I don't always shoot in AF-S and on the X-E4 I press one button to open up Focus Mode and then flick the joystick once to select Manual. Even have it on the touchscreen, swipe and choose. That doesn't work for you and that is fine. For others like me, it is fine. "Not Acceptable"? Choose a camera body that you like, it's not rocket science.
@@fredbloggs545 You need to stop trolling me. You are now being very weird... Two videos now AFTER I deleted our last round.
@@artsilva
How is saying that if something doesn't work for you it's fine and you should therefore choose a camera body you like, trolling?
I guess you are one of those people who throw the word "troll" around when you don't agree with another opinion....newsflash: that is not what trolling is.
@@fredbloggs545 Bye
@@artsilva
Goodbye!
Hi Streets wide open! I am very pleased to hear your opinion on this beautiful looking camera! I have it on order myself, with the 27mm 2.8 lens, and cant wait to shoot with it! But please, can you tell me, just how small the EVF actually is on the XE4??? I have been trying to find out from several reviewers, and apparently it is actually very small, in fact smaller then the EVF on my old X100T, but is it usable? looking forward to your feed back, buddy. Keep shooting!
Apparently same as XE3 which is bad for approximately a third of people. The XE2 was bigger and much nicer to use as a glasses wearer. One reason I didn’t fancy the XE4, but its not a horrible EVF, you just need to line it up better and get closer, so it’s slower to use than a bigger one like on the XT3 which is 10 times better.
@@blood_n_guts_murphy Thanks for that buddy! I guess it's probable like the EVF on my Lumix GX9 then!?!? that one is small, and as you have rightly described, you have to kind of line it up with your eye, so to speak!?!? Thanks for letting me know mate!
@@palmhousebookrestoration3284 glad to help, might be a bit better as the GX85 was really bad for me.
I really don’t have a problem with the EVF, I know some don’t like it. I’ve used cameras with worse, I have no trouble lining it up or reading the information I have set. Not as good as the v but I don’t find it a problem.
Try one out in store if you can.
I agree about trying in store as everyone is different. I actually started considering an XT20 today to use with its similar flip screen and pretty much ignore the EVF. The XE4 having the moving LCD will at least make up for the small EVF.
I have the latest firmware on my two xe4s. Both still have the screen flip issue.
I’m just assuming Fuji had fixed this in the latest firmware as my screen hasn’t had the issue since. I’ve been constantly using it with the screen flipped out as well, if mine was still doing it I think I would seriously think about sending it back. I’m going to keep trying it with the screen out to be sure.
You are good on justifying things!
why not just buy a converter lens for the v?
You are limited to f/2.
Lovely video, but I have always thought Fujifilm cameras are to hollow / Ulf
I'm really happy with mine. I was worried by the negative reviews, re the lack of buttons, but bought it anyway as I am familiar with fuji cameras. I went for a diver as all my other this are black, wanted a change. It's a lovely camera, particularly with the 27mms lens.
Excellent I’m glad you like it.
Thanks for taking the time to comment.
Look at the end of the day it’s how you use it and how you shoot with it that’s gonna matter the most period
You’re bang on there, it’s not for everyone and different people have different needs. But If you shoot a certain way this camera could be a great match.
Thanks.
Sitting here, waiting for my camera store to call me and tell me that my X-E4 has arrived...
It’s a great little camera 👍🏻
I entirely second your opinion. Great share. BTW from the way you speak, did you manage to not wake up the baby? Or did you try to hide from getting busted by your wife for having bought an other camera? ;) It's useless, she'll find out anyway, I tell ya ;)
Wake the baby up??
@@StreetsWideOpen Sorry for being misleading. What I meant was that the volume of your voice sounds like you had a baby, that you didn't want to wake up from sleeping in the other room. ;)
xe4 is an inspiration from Leica Q2.
I’d love to try out a Leica Q2 Monochrome.
your the one "moaning" about people who want a reasonable amount of key switches. Fuji went El cheapo with this, I stand by wanting a another function button and real switch for SCM in front, and rear dial.... Many like me hate swipe commands and constant menu diving
how you gonna say a 3-4 click step is the same as 1?? just because u like shooting auto not everybody does. there r many shooting styles. if this was the only minimalist body it'd be ok for those that dont care about buttons but most fuji shooters got in the system because of the buttons. yes buttons r good they save time, having to go into the menus for basic control is steps backwards.. ps that was just an ignorant statement in the beginning, only makes sense for people that dont change their settings on a regular. just get a normal point and shoot if you shoot auto like that..
There was no ISO dial on the X-E1, 2 or 3 yet you don't complain about that. ISO is one side of the exposure triangle and far more important than a Focus Mode selector, yet the mythical "most fuji shooters" you claim to speak for were not bothered about missing an absolutely critical ISO dial off all of the X-E camera models. You had to use a programmable button for ISO!
It is not, "a 3-4 click step" to swap Focus Mode. If switching Focus Mode is important to you then it is ONE button press and ONE flick of the joystick to switch from S to M. It is ONE button press and ONE flick of the joystick to switch back from M to S. Of course you can assign it to the touchscreen or have it in the Q menu, or even have a custom settings than when switched also puts the camera into manual focus.
I have both the X-E3 and X-E4 so know what I am talking about.
@@fredbloggs545 where did i mention ISO???
also changin focus is at least 3 clicks, perhaps if you dont start the video with that ingorant statement nobody would have said anything but obviously you must think that the way you shoot is the only way. nah.. its not.. have good one
@@marknadirworx
Changing from S to M is ONE button press and ONE flick of the joystick.
I have the X-E4 so don't tell me how it works.
@@fredbloggs545 no offense, and I dont mean to be negative, but obviously you have no idea how some people use the focus switch when shooting. ps you should look at your video and count at least 3 button pushes versus one easy flick on the on the side or front of the camera that u can get to without taking your eye off the viewfinder. i rest my case..
Seems that it has that lovely yellow tinted LCD that they all have now since the X-T2.
It a disgrace they can’t even calibrate them before they leave the factory. B&W should be black and white.. not sepia. People having issues with LCD/EVF being yellow tinted all over.
I don't see sepia on my X-E3 or X-E4. You are seeing the colour profile used for this video not the actual colour of the LCD when seen with your eyes. The black camera body looks yellow/brown on this video so the LCD will too.
I think this is the colour on the video. None of my fujifilm camera's have a yellow tint. Never heard of people having issues of this nature.
@@StreetsWideOpen Thanks for the reply. Is this the colour profile for the video causing the tint?
Sad to see this model has a yellow warming tint on the lcd as well. Since 2019 Fujifilm have ceased to calibrate their lcds and they all have this shitty warming tint so even the b&w acros looks a sepia color. Only GFX is calibrated to perfect color just like the X-T1 and others until 2018 were when sold. Now they don’t give a shit about the colour and people who actually care.
Can you please giveaway this camera to me ?