Harrower Class Dreadnought vs Valor Class Cruiser | Star Wars: Who Would Win
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- The two most powerful ships from Star Wars Legend's the Old Republic go head-to-head, with the Sith Empire's Harrower Class Dreadnought taking on the Republic's Valor Class Cruiser. Which one will survive the space battle?
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EckhartsLadder exexutor super star destroyer vs mandator republic battleship.
EckhartsLadder Twilight vs. Slave 1
Providence class vs Victory 2 or Ajunta Pall vs Darth Zannah or The Profundity vs Chaf frigate
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exeutor super star destroyer vs the eclipse
The Valor, ironically, only really has a chance if it launches all its fighters and then retreats.
Actually the entry for it indicates the Valor is faster and more maneuverable than the Harrower while still being armored, so the Valor would be able to flank or use its fighters to flank the Harrower, get behind it where it is vulnerable and take it out easily. Eckhardt left out a few things. They also appear to have very powerful shields and more often than not completely held their own against Harrowers and other ships.
Dude the Valor class ship looks like Axiom from Wall-E XD
That’s what I thought!!! 😂
Lol
The Harrower looks better.
Agreed.
I personally prefer Valor
Yes the most important and necessary factor of a ship 😂
Valor looks like quasi-USS Enterprise
@@taka2721 the valor reminds me more of like a space version of a cruise ship.
The Harrower design would have been awesome for Rise of Skywalker. It’s my favorite ship in any sci-fi universe.
The Harrower was also fitted with superweapons on at least three separate occasions. The forward hangars make an ideal place to put fleet or planet killers.
It would have been turned into a joke by that movie
And that is why Agent said to Darth Marr:
If this was about technology - Empire would have won the war long ago.
Marr: "Agreed"
and to put it bluntly - If possitioned favourable - Harrower can direct its turbolasers with Saturation fire on at least half of Valor´s hangar bays when it attempts to lauch fighters- for significant amount of time cutting the Valors ability to launch fighers to half.
(Stephen Caldwell strategy maneuver... One if utilized by Admiral Raddus would have likely saved far more ships of rebel Alliance over Scariff as he was in possition to wipe shieldbase´s figter complement but didn´t - would be quite lovely scene illustrating why tie defenders should be there and launch first to draw fire)
"Hive is launching darts..."
"Open up on those bays! All batteries"
Home 1 vs invisible hand. the flag ships of two of the most renowned factions in the galaxy. captained by the top strategic minds of their eras.
unfortunately the captains wouldn't matter in this series :(
Hi There the leaders add to the iconicnes of the ship
he could do a special episode basically pinning the captians plus the ships against eachother
He could, but won't.
So,fuck thrawn right?
Cis HYENA-BOMBER
VS IMPERIAL TIE-BOMBER
No competition,hyena win:faster,no crew,no need to escort...
@@galadato7425 yep, is also much more maneuverable since it doesn't have a bio pilot. It can pull more g's. It's also a *much* smaller target.
Well the imperial bomber has more firepower
@@roshankattil8584 true, it has more range as well.
The Harrower proves itself worthy of being called a dreadnought pretty easily while the Valor Class Cruiser is better off as a starfighter carrier than an actual frontline capital ship slugging it out with other capital ships.
I think the firepower of the Valor was downplayed. You can't base the ship's firepower solely on the image/art because art doesn't always show the weapons in full detail. The Valor is described as follows: "The ship class served as the heaviest and most powerful warship in the Republic fleet, allowing it to match the Harrower-class dreadnought in terms of size and firepower but it was only armored where needed, allowing it to be faster and more agile than the Harrower." (Wookieepedia).
So I think the Valor had just as many turbolasers and whatnot as the Harrower, however the Harrower can use its guns more effectively due to its wedge-shaped design. The Valor can't bring as many guns to bear in most directions, so the Harrower would have an advantage due to its design, but the advantage wouldn't be 2-3 times greater like stated in the video.
I think the Valor's speed and agility makes up for its less efficient firepower design because the Republic wouldn't use it to counter the Harrower if it couldn't. The Republic would have built another ship class to counter the Harrower or they would have sent in waves of Valors to swarm Harrowers. Neither of which they did.
Actually… the Star of Coruscant appears to have been just such an attempt by the Republic to build something to counter the Imperial’s fleet. It would fall to a massive Sith Ambush above Hoth as the final result of a year-long campaign of espionage and subterfuge carried out by the Empire to ensure it could be destroyed before it could make a meaningful contribution to the war. The result is that a portion of Hoth’s surface would become a starship graveyard. It’s also worth noting that the Star of Coruscant and its escort vessels were loaded out with numerous experimental weapons. So there was definitely an effort to try to build a proper counter to the Empire’s Harrower. It also clues us in that the Republic has a significant industrial capacity as they were ultimately able to absorb such significant losses and still maintain some level of parity with the Imperial Navy soon after.
I think the likeliest scenario is that while Imperial warships like the Harrower were better able to trade favorably against Republic Warships, they lacked the ability to efficiently replace losses as fast as they were incurred while the Republic could. The so called “waves of valor” would only occur much later in the Sith/Republic conflict when attrition against the Harrowers allowed the surviving and newly built Republic Valors to properly outnumber the remaining Harrowers and a far fewer number of newly built harrowers.
@@Zeknif1 you bring up good points. Tbh I think the Star of Coruscant was an attempt to counter Sith superweapon/fleet killer designs such as all the ones made by Darth Mekhis during the Great Galactic War and Cold War. Perhaps also as an undefeatable symbol of hope to boost morale across all Republic owned space, since the Republic was suffering tremendous losses.
Looking back at the Valor cruiser, I now realize that it's hull shape and weapon placement does have the benefit of being able to shoot equal firepower at all angles including out the rear, which allows for greater versatility and positioning options than the Harrower. The lack of firepower blind spots and good amounts of higher quality starfighters would make the Valor an effective counter to the Harrower alone.
I do think that the Star of Coruscant would have been an effective counter against large fleets of Harrowers, where a mere Pyrrhic victory at best could be achieved with Valors and other vessel classes. Basically a trump card to call upon when needed most
@@jaredevans8263 My biggest issue with the Valor is the combination of its armor profile with its engine placement. While it is a given that a space fairing vessel’s propulsion systems will be exposed when attacked from the rear, the Valor’s is also exposed from the front… and we aren’t even talking about tertiary propulsion… all of their propulsion systems are housed in the module jutting out from below the main hull. I would be able to forgive this had this area had significant armor to its sides and front… however, the front of the propulsion system housing is so completely exposed that much of it is exposed from the side profile as well (as well as much of the thruster components themselves). Attempting to maneuver the ship to protect this vulnerability only results in exposing the vulnerable, unarmored sections of the hull superstructure.
The Likeliest scenarios for Harrower vs Valor are as follows:
Short Range: Valor attempts to flank the Harrower attacking it with its broadside firepower… results are dependent on the gunnery of the Harrower in their ability to consistently target the exposed engine housing of the Valor, vs the Valor’s gunnery to consistently target the Harrower’s guns. This scenario is about the closest to parity the two ships will be as they’ll be limited to broadside firepower. Once the shields are down, the Harrower knocking out 2 or three of the Valor’s engines (assuming they are designed not to go up in a chain reaction) would bring the ships into parity as far as agility goes… which will quickly snowball into a Harrower win. If the Valor can drain the Harrower’s shields and knock out enough guns, the Valor will then have the option to park on the Harrower’s ass and target it’s most vulnerable section for an easy victory.
Long-Range: Valor attempts to leverage its agility and the long travel time of the Turbolasers to evade Harrower volleys while returning fire. The Valor may see initial advantage in the shield drain game because the Harrower simply won’t be able to dodge, the sheer volume of fire will give the Harrower the option to fire in a wide spread to ensure some bolts hit their mark. The biggest issue is that the Valor’s evasive maneuvers will slow its rate of progression relative to the Harrower that will likely fly in a straighter line, allowing it to close the distance. The inefficient weapons placement of the Valor means that at any given time, the return fire that the Harrower must absorb is minimized. This matchup mostly ends up being dependent on the skill of the Harrower gunnery to hit and corral the Valor vs the helmsmanship of the Valor at dodging the incoming bolts.
Mid-Range: The Valor picks between closing the distance, in which case it’s poor armor profile and ineffective weapon placement ensures it loses the shield match against the Harrower’s blistering frontal firepower before having the engines quickly shot out from under it… or try to open the distance… essentially the long range scenario except they don’t have the room necessary to dodge.
Obstacle involved: This is the scenario the Valor needs to catch a Harrower in or draw them into. A debris field offers the Valor many opportunities for it to leverage its advantages in agility and starfighter compliment against the Harrower’s defensive and armament advantages by using the debris or asteroids to block fire and obscure observation of their maneuvers, as well as hoping the lacking agility of the Harrower results in greater damage from the environment. This would actually explain why many of the SWTOR space battles are in asteroid fields. Alternatively, a Valor could deploy in a way that puts an entire planet between itself and the nearest Harrower.
There’s a reason why the Valor ship design virtually fell off the face of the galaxy, while the Harrower gave birth to one of the most successful capital ship designs in the verse.
Something I do not think was even taken into consideration was “Didn’t the Harrower have a massive array of anti starfighter / bomber guns”. Like matching that of the Dreadnaught class heavy cruiser, that most republic pilots feared as an anti spacecraft gun ship platform. I really do not think that even with the harrowers entire air wing crippled, that the bombers or their bombs would have an easy time of just landing their ordinance. They or their missiles, torpedos, bombs, would get cut to shreds trying to close in on the Harrower. The Sith empire was so feared because their ships pretty well stomped anything in era into the ground and they could blanket the battlefield in said ships. I am far from a lore expert, but what vague things I remembered were that it would generally take 2-3 ships like the Valor to even stand a chance. Even then 1-2 of the Valor classes would pay the price for the win.
By the way, the Harrower has *25 7-barreled* turbolasers, just saying since it seemed you could not count them well. (No offense btw)
Soren Recker knew I got it right :D
It doesn’t matter how many turbolasers, it matters how much power you can supply to them
@@CABOOSEBOB Well - generaly in legends this was said about ships - they need to do 3 things - move, shield, and fire... and they can decently only do two out of three at any given time.
Meaning - if the Harrower is maneuvering it can have shileds and defend itself by quads... when it reaches right orientation it stops powering engines, rellying on innertia and pound target with tubrolasers...
if by any chance there is not that many fighers around and it can run weaker shields...
Not sure how I’ve overlooked this comment each time I’ve seen this video, but I’m glad I saw it this time, since I was thinking the main batteries, near the bridge, looked like 7 barrel turbolasers. At first I thought that was wrong, they had to be 8 but looking again sure enough the barrels are spaced just like the 3 barreled laser cannons some start fighters have.
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Jason Joffe this could be interesting
Hmmmm. Delta-7 or Delta-7B? 7 is the one in AotC. 7B is from TCW.
Jay I would presume the 7 because he says episode 2
Allegiance Star Destroyer vs MC 90 PLEASE.
Close enough to my suggestion
Thepic Anominasis Ain't it going to be kind of a one-way fight?
Ventator vs Harrower
I don't know dude. That seems like a pretty one-sided fight.
Zerxees I think they would be similar in capability since the venator has so many strike craft and is also newer compared to the Harrower
Zerxees yeah the harrower would win because of it's impressive armament, it would be just like this battle only a closer call since the venator is way better designed than the valor
1 Nihulistic99th I don’t thick 95 fighters and 32 bombers (both out dated) could stand up to the Venators 400+ fighters/bomber
2 the rest of you the harrower is outdated it tech nology is worse then that of the venator the harrower turbolasers won’t do nearly the same damage as the venator the shields won’t be as powerful ether
The Harrower has one big weakness in having that many of its weapons near the bridge. And the Valor having more speed can likely attack form its sides
But that isn't a weakness. It means it's able to concentrate fire much better as well as being able to better defend the bridge from any A-Wings doing a kamakaze into the... Wait wrong era. Point still stands.
It's difficult for the Valor to use all its weapons at once which is a huge disadvantage.
The Valor looks like it was meant to be some kind of cruise ship rather than a warship. For The Empire!
Terminus class destroyer vs the recusent class light destroyer
please! Executor vs covenant super carrier!
Super carrier wins due to size and weapons and fighter support and corvettes and *gasp* stealth and glassing beams and shields and armor. Done.
not realy, the covenant used forerunner technology, probably shields as well, as in based on them
and if you look at the forerunners you learn that they could easily stomp the empire, the emperor is less than a stormtrooper when compared to the didact, and the halo array is capable of simply wiping out all life in multiple galaxies at once
+ turbolasers would not come close to glassing- or excavation beams
Alexander Miller the executor's shields can tank whatever the Covenant carrier throws at it. The Empire isn't the UNSC. Their ships can take on the Covenant, and win.
@@ragemonkey117 nope.
Old Republic Hammerhead vs Rebel Hammerhead
I3oo1Ve old republic one would win due to it being a giant upscaled version of the rebel one, it wouldn't have maneuverability but it would have the tonnage and firepower advantage
lol
smash to mallets against eachother and that is this battle
Long live the Sith!
Death to the Jedi!
For the emperor
For the sith
Nah, Fuck the Sith, they are very unstable most of the time
@@alejandroelluxray5298 well at least they don’t kidnap children
Hammerhead Corvette vs CR90
Secutor class SD vs. the longer version of the providence class carrier
The Munificent is easily one of my favorite, if not my favorite, canon ships. It is so visually unique and striking that it wins me over every time.
The harrower is my favorite ship ever
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PELICAN VS LAAT GUNSHIP
Blair Johnsonthe new pelicans have shields it might be a very even fight depending on each ones loadout
Blair Johnson yessssss please
Blair Johnson nice
The pelican is a DROPship, the LAAT is a GUNship. I wonder if the one with more guns will win?
which pelican are we talking about??
Harrower Class Dreadnought Vs Imperial Star Destroyer
Jesse Horn
Yes i love the harrower Design
And Ask myself IT is even better than a "new" star destroyer
yesterday I suggested the same thing, but I don't care.
It wouldn't really be a fair match since the ISD was created thousands of yeas later and is thus more advanced.
FIREFOX_FIN Yeah but.. if you look at the legends lore technology didnt advance that much due to all the wars and then suddenly a stop of military
Perhaps the advances were slow but 4000 years is a long time. The ISD would crush the Harrower. I mean if it were weaker why would the empire use it? Especially when the Empires military doctrine was heavily focused on powerful capital ships.
You indicated that the Valor is only 500 m long, but in SWTOR it is more than 2x the length of a Thranta class cruiser which is 375 M long. I think that the Valor and Harrower end up being very similar in length.
Y wing vs tie bomber
WW gaming which one
republic fighter has co gunner and tie bomber is more slow easy hit and rebel y wing faster way more manuerable
Rebellion y wing
do the Republic mandator 2 class dreadnought vs the imperial super star destroyer
THEBACCAWORRIOR BaccaWarior I love mandator 2 but i think that the match against the executor is scripted
I just like the republic and no one ever talks about the manator 2 dreadnought
THEBACCAWORRIOR BaccaWarior in fact you have my like
The Valor looks like a Star Trek ship with that 60’s saucer motiff, I love it!
I've been waiting for this battle for so long and it's finally here! I love your versus series!
There is only ONE THING that you may have left out, but that is Assuming that its Standard Battle Tactics: Boarding Parties.
From what I got from this is that the Valor was used by the Republic as a Command Carrier, meaning the venerable Hammerhead is the main attack Capital Ship / Destroyer.
I don't think the battle would favor the Harrower as much as you suggest. Many of the sources I've seen have said that the Valor can match the Harrower in firepower. I agree that the Valor is less armored than the Harrower but it's speed and fighter superiority would compensate for that. I would say that they are more-or-less equal
If you were to update the technology on the Harrower to Galactic Empire era but keep the overall design, that ship would be a fucking beast.
Very few ships can fire all guns at once, and I imagine the Harrower is one of those ships, or I doubt the Republic would've won any battle. It's been stated before that the Valor is more than a match for a Harrower so read into that what you will. Perhaps it's defensive abilities make up for lack of optimised gun placement.
I would agree the republic relied upon the Thranta-class. and star fighters to engage capital ships like the Harrower. While the Valor-class cruiser. was heavily armed and armored it was in essence a fighter carrier/flagship it was no match for a proper dreadnought class vessel as it relied on speed more than fire power or armor for its protection and offensive capabilities.
Providence class vs Victory II class
Can we please have this. I would love to see this match-up.
Katana Dreadnoughts only difference from normal is a lower crew need.
Not really. Statistics for Dreadnought are for ships which were modified after funding Imperium. Partially that's why this ship have this big heavy turbolasers (from modification) , and low power old turbolasers from before modification. It is possible they have more hangar bays as slave-rigs gave much free space, 18k crew need much more supplies than 2,2k . For weapons, at best these are mostly medium turbolasers . similar to power of ISD main weapon, but it's optimistic assume. Old Republic Dreadnought carry 20 quad lasers, 10 turbolasers, 10 laser cannons and some ion cannons, compared to 10 heavy turbolasers and 20 quad turbolasers. One advantage of Katana fleet was ground troops, they were equipped with advanced walkers for this era, ATPT was decent walker , similar to ATST but smaller.
HrothgarHeavenlight Garm Bel Iblis's dreadnaughts ,which were from the katana fleet,were equipped with ion cannons in thrawn trilogy,and those were not listed in the weapons roster. So katana dreadnaughts were equipped with some additional weaponry
We dont know if it was a all Katana Dreadnought feature or Garm Bel Iblis own modification, it is even stated in that way on Wookiepedia.
As Garm had quite strong force it can be possible he equipped (or replace some turbolasers ) hes ship with some ion cannons.
One on one the Harrower has the advantage but rarely do lone ships meet lone ships. As a Fleet the Valour has the advantage since its broadsides allow it to target multiple targets simultaneously. Whereas the Harrower is a lone brawler the Valour can work in formations to concentrate on a wider selection of targets. Plus the more Valours there are the greater their fighter advantage becomes. In groups of 3 or more I’d give it to the Valour.
I had a unique idea, it would be a fair fight in my personal opinion. A Imperial AT-AT Vs The covenants scarab from halo, preferably from halo 2 but either could work.
Its funny how the design of the bridge for both sides got flipped during the empires reign
More Old Reublic era!!!
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2 venetor Star destroyers vs 1 Imperial class Star destroyer!
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Mandolorian cruiser vs Munificent class star frigate. Tomorrow is my bday it would be amazing to see the match up
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Imperial 2 class star destroyer vs lucrehulk droid control ship (CIS vs empire)
if the valor class cruiser is faster it can stay out of cannon range and attack with the more numerous star fighters and bombers and when needed (or if most of the Harrower class dreadnought cannons are disable) the valor can com in and turn use broad side to attack then enemy.
this is how i see it because from the looks of it the harrower is made go for ship to ship combat
The Valor looks like Padme’s apartment under construction, really big and with engines.
Secutor-class Star Destroyer vs Lucrehulk-class battleship
Dont forget about the Doombringer from SWTOR Sith Inquisitor story. It had the Silencer on it, took out an entire fleet of ships in seconds.
Or the Gauntlet from the Trooper story, or Darth Angral's Desolator from the Jedi Knight story.
Not giving up
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kylo ren's shuttle vs eta class shuttle?
Ww2 shows us that fighters and planes are more important than big gun battel ships
Thranta class corvette vs consular class cruiser
Great video as usual
Twilight vs. Slave 1
first name last name Slave 1 easily. Both are sheilded, but the slave 1 is more heavily armed, maneuverable, and smaller.
The main difference in war time tactics in SW mirrors WW2 in the pacific. Many commanders thought big battleships were the way to go whereas fewer commanders started realising air superiority was the way to go. As WW2 went on it became clear fighter superiority is the way to go, basically whoever had the most aircraft carriers and aircraft won. To me it seems like the Republic quite rightly go with air/space superiority and the Empire are stuck in the older way of thinking of Battleship superiority. Basically the Empire are way behind in tactics
By this reasoning your taking the Valor out of its element and intended use. A Valor is never going to close to direct combat range. Its going to stay way back and operate as a fighter launcher like its designed to, utilizing its own weaponry as point defense of any enemy star fighters
With all the Valors fighters and bombers out this is essentially a battle where both sides will lose
Gozanti-class cruiser vs Hammerhead Corvette! Their are similarly armed and sized (at least the seem to be...), and they existed in the same era.
Inclined to agree with this assessment. Even though the Valor does carry more fighters and bombers, it only carries 15 fighters and 8 bombers more than the Harrower, which is not enough of an advantage. The only thing not covered that may provide some room for argument was in the weapons area, both ships carried missile/torpedo tubes but the Valor has access to Ion torpedoes which may help tip things (or may not). So far as I can find, the Harrower class only has access to normal Proton and Concussion systems, which are still good but are not designed to bring down shields the same way as Ion torpedoes. Also both ships have access to Ion cannons, though I cannot find any info about numbers.
Could we see a three part/topic video:
1) About The Killiks VS the Trade Federation.
2) Dart Ships and Nest Ships VS Vulture droids and Lucrehulk-class battleship.
3) As well as Killik Troops VS Battle Droids if ether side tried boarding the other.
Pie shaped ships for life!
Wonder what they taste like...
Btw there is a map on GSF in which they fight on the middle, pretty illustrative and cool
MC140 Scythe-class main battle cruiser vs Pellaeon-class Star Destroyer.
Like in this video, these two ships were the backbone of their respective factions and would have fought against each other throughout the Sith-Imperial War of 127-130 ABY.
I admit, the Harrower is MADE for combat, whereas the Valor seems to have been designed to be part of a fleet. However, lets not forget how time after time capital ships are severely crippled and often straight up destroyed by several snub fighters; when your fighters have numerical superiority and they're built MUCH better (better weapons, better shields, better hulls, etc.) so they also have overall air superiority, as well as a light capital ship supporting them, I would give this one to the lighter Valor Class Cruiser due to the sheer numbers of strong fighters it carries, as well as the fact that it's designed to be a light carrier (hanger bays on each side and large amount of fighters/bombers). We've seen x-wings destroy an entire star destroyer, I confidently think an overwhelming number of x-wing predecessors and bomber variants could tip the battle vs. a star destroyer predecessor with fewer fighters in the favor of the Valor.
Hey, I have a video request that is a little different. So as you know, the battle of yavin was a costly battle for the rebellion, they only got away with three ships (not counting the falcon) the two X-wings contained Luke and wedge, but there was an unidentified Y-wing pilot. Could you do a video on this pilot?
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Ok.
The name of this pilot in canon is Evaan Verlaine. She was a Alderaanian fighter pilot. During her childhood she was mentored by the mother of Leia Organa ( Breha Organa), wich later led her to folowig her planet's leaders into rebelion. Her first mission was in fact the battle of Scarif in wich she flew as Gold Three.
After the battle Alderaan was destroyed. She personaly took the battle of Yavin becouse the Death Star destroyed her homeworld. After the battle she joined Princess Leia in her quest of gathering surviving remeining alderaanians. After the mission princess Leia passed her title of princess to Evaan.
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If the fight started at long or extreme ranges the Valor could play keep away until its fighters do their business but that's not the premise of these VS. videos. So I think you are 100% correct and the Harrower stomps the Valor into the floor.
By the time the two ships meet thhe Valor would launch its fighters long before being within attack range of the Harrower. And fighters can make a huge difference between space battling vessels.
Allegiance Star Destroyer VS First Order Resurgence class Star Destroyer
Paris class frigate vs imperial arquitens-class
Gunner 117 I am replying so this comment stands out
hope the paris gets a mac spam
I dont know if the Paris class should have shields like the post war or just the heavy armor when they did not have the technology
he might choose post war sheilded ones
might
Well my plan worked
Harrower is my surname. It's cool to be named after such a badass ship.
B-wing vs ARC170
james elliott arc170 easily
Nice video it was really helpful and tort me alot
Nebulon b vs acclamator
Acclamator would easly win
Piotr Długoszek agreed
Piotr Długoszek agreed
Hapan Battle-Dragon vs Victory 2
I think its a matter of tactics,If the Valor launches all or most of its fighters I think its speed would allow them to keep out of the Sith's ship's range while its fighters weaken it enough for them to close in for the kill,the Valor may still lose most of the time but I think it be more like 6-4 then the 8 and a half out of 10,just my opinion,love your vids
When the starfighters focus the guns on the harrower they can transform it into a defenseless practice target.
3:34 It looks more of a Civvie transport, like a cruise liner instead of a top of the line warship for the Republic... While the Harrower looks like a true warship!!
9th time!!!!
Traditional Rebel Fleet: 3 Nebulon B Frigates, 5 CR90 Corvettes, and 5 GR75 Transports vs one Star Destroyer
Would love to see a Thranta-Class corvette vs terminus class destroyer
Harrower Class Dreadnaught Vs Victory Class Star Destroyer, two ships very similar in size, and both very heavily armed. Would be an interesting match up.
pride of the core vs 3 StarDestroyers
i saw the title and thought 'this is unfair it's a dreadnought vs a crusier how is this a fair fight it's like a gr70 vs a imperial-ll" but no they're actually sort fair matched
i'd have to disagree with your conclusion here, the valor would probably use is superior speed to keep out of reach of the harrower until it's bombers had crippled it, then move in for the kill. the only way the harrower really stands a chance is if the valor is forced to stand and fight (eg. defending an immobile target such as a planet or space station)
Subjugator Heavy Cruiser vs Resurgent Star Destroyer
"lined with hangars on both sides"
Me having played GSF with the sole purpose of waiting in the hangars, and only having seen 1 (on the back) of the valor: uhhh...
fury-class interceptor vs defender class light corvette
These two ships would have gone head-to-head a lot. The Great War between the Sith Empire and the Galactic Republic lasted 28 years.
Dornean Gunship vs Raider Class Corvette
The Harrower looks so awesome.
Only way to beat the Harrower would be to get behind and take out engines first, also there are 5 more implacments on the steps up to the bridge tower. Harrower is one of my favorite looking capital ships.
Imperial II Star Destroyer vs. Golan III Defence Platform
Harrower Class Dreadnought vs Resurgence Class Battle Cruiser would be nice