How to install Lateen Sail Brailing Lines
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- Опубликовано: 19 июн 2021
- Hi guys! this video will take you through the rigging of the brailing lines on Princesa do Tejo's lateen sail.
We will redo the whole brailing system including thimble's placement and all the lines.
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Lateen rigs much more economical answer to Lazy Jacks and a Stack Pack! Love it. Thank you for the great idea.
Based on the facts the Portuguese sailed for hundreds of years with a Lateen sail I would say this is a good system. Good job.
Thank you Michael!
i have never had experience with lateen rig, but have always loved its look. thank you.
So great to see this part of maritime heritage being lived and celebrated, amazing skills and results. Thank you Teo
Our pleasure Tusk!
It seems an ingenious system to me, and the vid has answered questions I’ve had about lanteen rigs for years.
Thanks!
Hi!
Check the other video for more answers on Lateen sail controls.
ruclips.net/video/9Y9-Idmh3xA/видео.html
@@TheBoatRambler yeah man, it was great as well, saw it the day you uploaded it. I’ve not missed a single vid 😄
The whole thing is beautiful - presentation and technical information. Always thought of these riggings as basic but this has shown how sophisticated they can be to get the best out of them. And of course they are very romantic.
Thank You Greg!
Definitely the most beautiful type of sail.
This is true artistry.
obrigado por manter a tradição viva
That's a cool system. Looks complicated at first, but I image after using it a few times it wouldn't be difficult.
Hi Jeremy!
You are correct. And it doesn't need replacing as long as the lines are in good condition, so only every few years.
For the peace of mind and versatility it delivers....it's priceless!
@@TheBoatRambler Yes wouldn't want one of those lines failing. With modern line materials they hold up much better than the old natural materials.
That's fantastic info, many thanks mate!
Glad it was helpful!😉
Fascinating! Thanks!
Our pleasure!
Obrigada pela partiha...
...e Bons Ventos 😃
Obrigado por participares! 🙂
Abraço
Phantastically beautiful, artistically exquisite and so very well explained. But, as a Northerner (Dutch) I wonder how much more efficient the North European gaff rigg is in terms of pointing and simpler when reefing. Muito obrigado!
Hi Ronald!
I don't know about northerner gaff rigs but around here the gaff rigged boats of the same class will take twice the time to finish on the same regatta. Mind you they don't have booms so not the most efficient gaff rigs.
@@TheBoatRambler Hi Boat Rambler,
Most interesting! Will read and study more about your lateen sails and rigging.
Fascinating that these can be sailing so fast.
I am getting out of my home-built 6 meter gaff rigged yawl (François Vivier’s design Jewell) up to 7 knots in a 12 knot breeze.
Maybe I should consider building another boat and rigging it the way you do it in Portugal. Any suggestions on boat designs?
Cheers,
Ronald
Princesa do Tejo's is a beautiful boat, loving the colourful the paint job :-). I've not seen Brailing lines before, and am now wondering if something similar could be done to secure the mid-sail reefing eyes to the boom on a "standard" (or is that boring?!) sloop rig, to save having to go on deck and tie short lines through the reefing points in a blow. Thanks for sharing!
Hi David!
I have no experience with sloop rigs.
I would imagine that you would end up with A LOT of lines if you have to use one brailing line for each tie point, and for each reef line!
But like I said, I know little of sloop rigs, maybe someone more experienced wants to comment or even try doing it! 😉
This is really informative, thanks. So if I get this right, the brailing lines are used to "reef" the sail in high winds?
The brailing lines main function is to bunch-up the sail when stopped. They can be used temporarily to reduce sail area for a jibe in strong winds or if running.
Essa técnica é brilhante, bastante sofisticada. Se sabe quando entrou em uso?
Brilliant technique, quite sophisticated. Is its creation time known?
Hi Luiz,
I don't know when the brailing lines were invented or even adopted tbh!
Boa noite amigo... Gosto muito do seu canal.. pena que não e em português. Abração do Márcio Rosa (Brasil)
Obrigado Marcio! 😉
So the grayling lines are to reef the latern sail? Looks like a good system as you can do that whilst under sail presumably.
Hi Ben!
The brailing lines main purpose is to keep the sail under control/tied while not sailing.
BUt...they are also very useful for reefing when running . Another use is, just before a gybe in strong winds, when 2 or 3 can be pulled for a few seconds to reduce sail area and make the gybing a lot safer, and then release immediately after.
I'll try to make a video about reefing the lateen sail soon. 😉
@@TheBoatRambler Interesting multi-function thing then? Also cheers for correcting my spelling, must have misheard!
@C.......14 It is.
So brailing lines can be used to reef in strong winds? Great videos
You shouldn't do it as the sail doesn't have any reinforcements in that area. also the more brailing lines you pull the more the sail looses its shape. But you can use it while running.
Can the boat sail upwind very well with three brail lines made fast like that?
Hi MrChyort.
Not really. It can be sailed for short periods, but it is not designed to be a reefing system.
Not only the sail shape wont be optimal, the sail lacks reinforcements on those areas and would very likely be damage from constant use or strong winds.
Boa noite, gosto do canal e os meus parabéns , porque não legendar em português, Obrigado.
Obrigado José.
Legendar leva muito tempo e alguns termos em inglês nem consigo traduzir diretamente para Português. Não parece muito mas em cima de cerca de 20 horas em média que levo a editar um video já começa a pesar.
@@TheBoatRambler Obrigado, dei com a sua pagina por acaso, reitero os meus parabéns pelo seu trabalho, só é pena é este conceito não ser muito usado em Portugal, como em Inglaterra e França onde são construídas pequenas embarcações com cunho tradicional, ex.: François Vivier que tem projetos muito bonitos. Por cá não me parece, era uma forma de não deixar embarcações tradicionais morrer, o custo de estaleiro não é para todos, digo isto quando me deram o orçamento duma "Aiola". Vou tentar construir, pode ser que saia um bote ou algo parecido. Boa sorte e continuação.
Obrigado José.
Que eu saiba o unico estaleiro a fazer este tipo de embarcações é o do mestre Jaime Costa em Sarilhos Pequenos. No entanto há plelo menos meia duzia destas canoas com mais de 9 metros construidas em quintais/armazens por particulares. Os projetos destes barcos são mais ou menos a olho retirados de outros já existentes. Há no entanto um projeto oficial no museu da marinha pelo qual já foram construidas 3 canoas.
Great video. How do you reef in this setup?
I also am wondering
@@stevenpugh3844 I guess it is on another video where they weave a net around the whole sail. ruclips.net/video/O_s9eG2TA_M/видео.html
Hi guys,
the answer is "with great difficulty". The method is the same as on any other boat, just roll the foot of the sail. it's hard to do because in strong winds the yard will be moving a lot with the swell/chop and more crew is needed to do it quick.
Some have the reef line at the top of the sail which prevents the swinging yard but the sail has to be fully lowered to set the reef.
I suppose that tiny job is designed to help you get through a tack , Is it original to sail plan ?
Hi Duncan,
The brailing lines main purpose is to stow/furl the sail quickly. It can be used to briefly reduce sail for a jibe in strong winds but it should not be used as a reef line as the sail doesn't have strong reinforcement patches to take the full force of the wind for long.
@@TheBoatRambler yes ,we had the same system on Essex smack , tricing mainsail at the tack to reduce sail area / speed when trawling
I've heard that these lateen rigs are a real handful to handle, especially in a fair puff. Is there any truth to this?
Hi!
The difficulty increases since there is a LOT of sail area on these boats. Princesa is a 29ft, shallow draft boat (3.5ft) with no ballast and total sail area of 55sqm. How many 29ft boats do you know with that much sail and no ballast?
Carrying 46sqm in one sail alone makes it difficult to handle. Now add a 100kg yard to it, (a few good meters above the water line) and you can imagine the forces in play in strong winds, especially during a gybe!! If the skipper doesn't know what he is doing a gybe can sink the boat or break yard/mast etc! That's why sometimes they pull a couple of brailing lines during the gybe.
ese barco es un qarib por mucha propaganda bourbon
Great video, wonder why the Portuguese always get the credit for the Lateen sail when surely the system comes from Egypt, the Arab people have been using them since the time of the Pharaohs, so credit where credit is due, not colonial theft.
Maybe because the Portuguese used the Lateen sail to cross oceans to unknown continents and even sail around the world. As for “colonial theft”, well unless you know of some Portuguese colony around Egypt ….I don’t know what you mean.
And by the way, the discoveries and colonial times shaped the world you live in right now.
All countries were formed and taken by force, every single country! For those who don’t agree, well they can start by tracing whether they live in Celts/Visigoths/Arabs/ /Indians territory and give it back to them!
I can’t understand people trying to judge something that happened centuries ago by 21st century standards.
@@TheBoatRambler You are right as far as identity is concerned, like it or not most of our countries have been occupied multiple times by different powers. I was not suggesting that Portugal ever had anything to do with Egypt, other than the fact that who ever seems to be top of the heap at any given time seems to assimilate whatever it finds then rewrites history claiming whatever it finds as having been it’s own invention, nothing new there of course. As to who sailed where first guess we will never really know the answer to that one, you ever heard of the Piri Reis map?
Hi Ian,
In School here in Portugal we are taught that we brought the lateen sail from the Mediterranean sea and incorporated it in our vessels to great effect. This was a game changer but we never claimed to have invented it.
And when I refer to "unknown continents" I mean unknown to us at that time ofc…😉
@@TheBoatRambler Fair enough.
too much complicate
Hi Gilberto!
There has to be a system aboard allowing to brail the sail without lowering the yard as it would be a nightmare otherwise.
This is the how we were taught, but we are always willing to learning new skills/methods. If you know of a simpler or more efficient way please lets us know! 😉