SMALL Gas Truck vs a BIG Hybrid: Will a Ford F-150 Beat the New Nissan Frontier on Our MPG Loop?
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I'd like to see the powerboost versus the 2.7 ecoboost on the same mpg loop.
Andre and Case together are a great combo!
"Kase"
@@WW-wf8tu my bad!
I agree. TFL just keeps getting better.
@@WW-wf8tu same thing! Chase
Who's this case dude
22.1 mpg in a full-size truck is solid. I’m liking the Ford F-150 on this one! 🇺🇸👍🏻
Sorry the Nissan is better
@@allentoyokawa9068 ... they are different ... each has its pro and cons ...
@@Sir...... Ford has nothing but cons.
@@allentoyokawa9068 That’s your OPINION. My point was matter of FACT in that a full-size truck delivering 22 mpg is impressive.
@@Nedinho23 Well, I like a good diesel too … we 🇺🇸 know how to build those: Cummins, Detroit (German owned), Cat, John Deere, Ford, & GM!!! 👍🏻 I also respect KAMA3/Kamaz 🇷🇺
Frontier is such a beautiful truck.
Totally agree
That exact spec Frontier that Kase had was love at first sight.
I've owned a lot of trucks and I've never been impressed with any of my V6 Toyotas or Nissans in the MPG department. The HEMI 1500 with 8 speed auto got superior MPG to all my V6 smaller trucks. Hopefully the newer generation of small trucks will fix this huge problem and the reason so many of us step up into F150 and 1500 when MPG is no advantage. BTW my HD diesel truck gets the same MPG as my 1500 HEMI when unloaded, no advantage there until I connect a trailer and then the Cummins cranks out better capability and MPG compare to gas.
I have 47K miles on my 2019 Ram 1500, and I get 19-21 MPG except when I drive it hard. I can top 22 on the highway. I put new Firestones on it at 40K, replacing the factory Nexen tires, and that upped my average MPG by 2. Keep in mind though that I live at higher elevation than the TFL guys. Whenever I go to lower elevation my MPG goes up, of course. I am very happy with my Ram. It doesn't have all the bells-and-whistle fancy stuff that a lot of trucks come with: multifunctional tailgate, hybrid drivetrain, mega screen in the dashboard... None of that. But that's just more stuff that can break, plus it adds a lot to the price. No, so long as Ram keeps building old-school trucks, I am staying with Ram.
I average 25 in my frontier16. 4x2. 16 pulling a 25ft camper
@@u.s.fiscalforecast4149 The Hemi would be much better if they would make normal exhaust headers, people changed them on YT channel and got 27 mpg on hwy in multiple tests, idk why they have them factory so stupid boxy
I'm getting 24mpg(US) 9.8l/100kmscombined on my crew cab 4x4 Ranger fx4. That's mostly backroad and town with some Highway.
@@tallll70 that way they can get people to replace them at 100,000 miles when they start leaking
More impressed with the F-150's fuel economy since they are essentially the same. It takes a lot of fuel to rocket a big truck like that to 60 mph in such a quick time versus the Frontier's leisurely 9.3 seconds. Take both on a driving loop over an entire tank without acceleration testing and then that'll mean something.
That'd be a long day in that F-150 lol
not really impressive being a V6 hybrid
@@allentoyokawa9068 what other V6 hybrid truck would you consider impressive?
Compare them both local, city driving and the powerboost will shame the Nissan. Heck I've gotten nearly 28 in a 80 mile loop. And it's the 2.7 eco, 4x4 crew. 🤔😁
@@allentoyokawa9068 it's also a full size truck that can tow big trailers.
That frontier is a really sharp truck! Great value!
That green color is 🔥
@Brian Lee Looks cheap as all hell. Even from a distance.
@@ghostmofo5829 Isn't that why you can't afford one? Ohh thought so😂.
@@DoctorRickSanchez The truck I bought in June is around double of what this thing cost. My comment was about the LOOKS of this truck. If you can’t comprehend that maybe it is perfect for you. 😂😂😂
@@ghostmofo5829 Emotional.
Should’ve done the 0-60 after the mpg loop. As a powerboost owner I know that thing drinks fuel under full acceleration.
When it rains on game day, the ground is wet for both teams
@daniel turbocharged engines are known to use a lot of fuel under a lot of boost.. why try to get good mpg and 0-60 times on the same drive
@@stevenjalopnik1342 but do you sprint during a cross country run?
@@hunteruplinger5862 yes if there the one person in the fast lane going 15 under the speed limit
@MWMWMWMWMWMWMWWWMWMWM It's a 20% difference between the computer and the pump. In reality as well, you're paying for fuel based on what that pump says, so whether it is right or wrong, that's what it's costing you. I would hope that there is some legal requirement for pumps to be tested and be pretty damn accurate, otherwise it would technically be fraud, and you guys would sue the snot out of fuel stations.
Dude, my 2018 Pro4X gets 13mpg. All I do is city driving. I might hit the highway for 15-20 miles a month. A hybrid would be great for my use case.
That 9 speed automatic helps the frontier reach features that are unheard of for its class. Definitely want to see more Andre and Case working together
Yes, people have said it. Kase and Andre work well together.
I enjoyed the entire video despite the fact I could care less which truck got better mileage!
Kase, Case. Idk how to spell your name. My bad.
You're a great host!! Keep it up!!!!
Great video, Andre and Case!
I have a new frontier and I love it. I’ve been able to get 22+ mpg on my way to work. For mileage being about the same and saving 10k off the msrp seems totally worth it.
As a two-time Frontier owner, it's obvious how proud Ford is of their products. Despite being great trucks, the prices are nice for both new and used Nissans. Btw, I drove F series trucks for decades before I tried the Frontier.
Excellent content. Enjoyed the Andre/Kase fill up commentary. lol Was not expecting the Frontier to win in the MPG test here. :)
It's the same since 0.2 mpg is nothing and considering not everything is completely equal here in the testing phase.
First of all I love you guys. I watch your channel because it does help me better understand the trucks and their capabilities before I buy. Now with all that said it's time for your show to start setting up these trucks with the same off road tires with like speaks so we can see who is best on road, mud, sand, rocks, gas mileage, tow and snow. I believe the only changes you would need to make are tires, close gearing and ride height. If you put ten to fifteen videos together showing these trucks in sand, mud, road, towing, rocks, milage and snow views like myself will be glued to your videos and most likely they will become most viewed... Thanks for reading and good luck guys... The Banks Family
I think it's a really good sign for the Ford. Being so close yet so much heavier.
If it wasn't for the price to performance/feature sets. The Ford would be the hands down pick. But as it is right now. That nissan is a way better bargain if you just need any kind of truck.
Umm no that ford is a peice of junk. Nissan all the way
Nissan hands down, even the full size better.
@@ghostlegit nissans are horrible.
...current and soon to be former Nissan owner.
@@BamaShinesDistillery umm no nissans aren't horrible. Especially the frontier and titan.
@@ghostlegit really? Last titan literally fell apart.....Nissan in the 90s were goodm..today the quality is junk. Leave it to Nissan to screw up putting a Cummins in a half ton. There is a reason Nissan is struggling so much today. He'll my last frontier had trans issue after issue.....
On the Facebook page, there's some owner's of the 2020-21 models with the 3.8 and 9spd Frontier getting 26mpg on the highway in a Pro4x! Calculated, not the trip computer. That new engine is awesome.
I would hope so lol. My old GMC 1500 crew cab 2014 4x4 with the 5.3 V8 got 20-21 on the highway 🤷♂️
It's the transmission helping the mpg.
that closed dead end road reminds me of good old TFL days!!!
I'm missing the 4 cylinder Frontier, really good truck and very fuel efficient for city driving, actually TFL did the city mpg loop test and it was really great (like 27mpg). Greetings
I have one with 181,000 miles has never very had one issue. It’s the most reliable thing I’ve ever owned.
Mine has had the exhaust fall off, the ac go out and is now missing a cylinder, we had 6 as a small fleet and am really disappointed with how unreliable they have been, the mpg is only good if you don’t put anything in it, i load it with my tools and parts and it gets in the low teens mpg
@@charlesgroover9646 👌👌👌 Awesome cars!!!! Greetings
@@drmobius8907 thanks for the info, really appreciate it. Definitely, if something will be loaded, there's no replacement for displacement. Not good at all the problems that you had, do you know why you missed a cylinder? (Electronic or mechanical failure). Greetings
I had two and 4 cylinders frontiers and they both had issues had to get a Tacoma and no problems! Nissan straight garbage!
Love that Fronty! More videos with Case!
I have never ONCE noticed a difference between 87 and 91 in my 2.7 f150.
Putting 91 in your daily driver truck is idiotic
Putting higher octane fuel does nothing for you unless the car is made for it. People have this misconception that higher octane is better for your car but they don't really understand what the octane numbers really mean. in reality higher octane fuels just mean they are more resistant to predetonation which allows you to advance the timing more on the engine. So if the engine isn't made to take advantage of that it literally does nothing. But people will always imagine that it "feels" better...
If conditions and driving are normal, 87 is perfectly fine with an Ecoboost. Only time my Ecoboost sees 93 is when I'm towing.
I used to run 87 in my 3.5 Ecoboost and premium when towing, but a premium tank was only $12 more and I got around 6% better mpg. Since we drive our EV as a daily driver and the Expedition is usually parked, I just run 93 all the time. Premium makes a noticeable difference even at part-throttle acceleration because the engine pulls timing on 87.
If you're just driving around unloaded, go for the cheap stuff. Ford does however recommend premium when towing.
@@jghall00 exactly
Dang that new fronty is gorgeous. Im shocked by the MPG results!Love the new series! Excited to see it.
Why do we have people in the comments talking about the octane fuel he's using? I think there is way too much misunderstanding about fuel octane going around and then dunning kruger effect takes hold and they go around talking like they are experts in it. FYI, for people who somehow think higher octane fuel means the fuel is "cleaner" or will magically make your vehicle more fuel efficient or powerful, no, that's not how it works. Octane literally is just the fuel's resistance to detonation, what we call "knocking." The reason why you see people who race use high octane fuel is because they follow that up (or should at least) with advancing the timing of their engine by an aggressive amount which gives them better performance. But without that adjustment in the timing it's useless. So unless your car is designed to take higher octane fuel, putting higher octane fuel in your car does absolutely nothing...
Yes this is a great explanation
Spot On. The ford would have benefited from 91 in the 0-60 since ford does recommend it for best performance. Probably not by much though.
One addition to your excellent comment, modern vehicles can advance the timing on the engine when higher octane is used to create additional power (maybe efficiency too). So when you run premium in something like an EB the computer does alter the engine characteristics to create more power and when you run lower octane it simply detunes itself to accept the lower octane without damaging the engine. Older turbo engines required high octane due to the higher compression and you could actually destroy those engines using lower octane due to pre-detonation.
@@EGGINFOOLS Yes, if the vehicle is designed for it, like you stated, then yes putting higher octane fuel would benefit the car. But I hear people saying "oh the engine will be dirty because you put 87 octane" like, um, no, wtf? lol
@@BrianLampright913 Yep, you're right, if the car is designed to adjust the timing depending on the fuel then you will benefit from using higher octane. But some people are under the impression that using the regular fuel will make the vehicle run "dirtier" or some nonsense like that...
That Frontier is really, really, really growing on me. I had the opportunity to test drive the SV version earlier this week. Great road manners, very quiet cabin, nice and progressive breaking, great hydraulic steering. It's quite an improvement from the last gen.
However, payload is quite low and towing capacity is okay at best. So i'm still not sold and i'm waiting to see what Ford will offer on the next gen Ranger. I'll have to see what Toyota will come with for the Tacoma as well.
Nissan is very conservative on there towing numbers for liability reasons. That being said don't let that scare you away from buying the most underrated truck on the market as most of the Nissan community pulls and hauls way over the numbers listed with out a problem. I recommend you join the forums if you want real world answers.
@@scott8238 Since we can't share links, can you tell me what to type in my Google search to join this forum?
@scott
When you break something on the truck and it’s under warranty yet make sure you tell the service writer how much over you were towing. You can start the walk home at that point
@@paulhunter9613 That's not a worry I have towing with my Nissan trucks. Besides they are easy to work on if you are into getting dirty...
Steering is the exact same.
Love the host combination! Case is good, keep him around.
Case has a bad attitude "My drive mode is where ever I put my right foot!" Lol JK 😅
"Kase"
@@WW-wf8tu Phone case
@@DoctorRickSanchez = Brainless Case
Congrats! Colorado fuel price is only .10 cents cheaper than California. Life's tough anywhere you go. Love your videos!
I've gotten 25.4 MPG on my 22 frontier pro 4X. On the highway, I usually switch to manual because the automatic doesn't use the 9th gear.
Old school tank or pressurized tank I’ll take old school less crap to worry about aka valves for pressure etc
The best MPG I’ve gotten from my frontier is 27-28mpg, highway & city 19-20mpg.
Hey guys. I have a big request. Could you please do towing reviews with the newer vans. Some claim around 7,000 pounds of max towing ability. I want to see if they really live up to the test. I know you usually would do payload tests with the sprinter, transit, promaster. But I would like to have the option to tow and just take out the material I have in the back of my van to get bigger jobs done in house. Thank you so much for your time.
The hybrid system on the F150 doesn't save gas at highway speeds since the engine ( not battery) is moving the truck. If it was 50 miles in the city the results would be different.
Also, on the previous generation F150 ('15 -'20) you can correct the trip meter mpg readout by accessing an "engineering" mode. Not sure if the '21s have this mode. Anyhow once in engineering mode you can correct your mpg readout and it will be very close to hand calculations afterwards.
The new Nissan Frontier seems to be a hit so far. Just puzzled by a few of the cost cutting features.
Midsized was actually small and more affordable was not in the high 30's to low 40s. I'd like to see more around high 20's to low 30's as more affordable for a truck.
not using premium fuel hurts the F150, 6.2 instead of 5.7 0-60, and a 3 mpg hit on the eco run. But does the extra cost of 91 or 93 octane fall short of the savings of 87?
I would like to see your channel(s) consider real world challenges to your truck reviews. These would allow viewers to see whether a particular truck is for them. For example, how many sheets of 1/2” CDX plywood, how many bags of mulch, does 1/2, 3/4 or 1 cubic yard of washed stone fit, how many bags of concrete, how many 24-36” potted evergreens….I enjoy the Rocky Mountain road tests but how about for the 80% who won’t go off-road where the nearest running toilet is 3 hours a way or more.
A 0-60mph test during an economy run? Curious what mpg both would have gotten if the "drag race" would have taken place following the mpg challenge.
Agree
The full throttle starts probably took nearly a half gallon of gas on the F150. Then the gas mileage estimate would have been close.
Hey can we get a gas dually towing competition? I want see base base model single cab work truck gas duallys towing, like the 6.2 f350 no cruise control versus 6.6 gas chevy WT dually, and a ram tradesman dually single cab with that 6.4, unless the 5.7 is still available in the duallys?
There are a few things that could make these test results not very useful:
1.) Since both trucks more than likely use different amounts of fuel in 0-60mph tests, this invalidates the results for the mpg loop. It would have been best to run the 0-60mph tests outside of the mpg loop. Without the 0-60mph tests you could have had different mpg loop results, especially since they are so close.
2.) Kase could be following you too close and at times receiving some benefit from a partial draft. It's hard to tell in the mirror though how close he actually is.
3.) Since the 0-60mph tests were mixed with the mpg loop, it invalidates the results for your audience that may be considering to purchase one of these trucks and wanted to know what they could expect for typical on road mpgs (Since normally truck owners don't stop and do 0-60mph tests while checking road mpgs lol).
Don't get me wrong, all the TFL channels are my fav channels in the entire streaming world. These were just my observations.
The 0-60 brought it down for sure, but the difference proportionally is probably extremely minor. I think the point is hybrids don't do well for highway fuel economy. The F150 would destroy the Frontier in the city I'm sure.
People often accelerate during normal day to day driving to merge into highway or overtake.
So invariably there will be times when strong acceleration occurs.
@@ugoe5268 which was captured in the mileage test.
@@ugoe5268 right, and that's normal driving. Doing multiple 0-60mph tests is not.
@@Immolate62 exactly
The more I see the Frontier, the more want one!
Since 1978 I have owned 12 new pickup every thing from a Toyota with a 22R to Ford and Chevy 3/4 tons with diesels. Everyone of them got 17 miles to the gallon. Everyone one of them!
Brake torqueing modern vehicles can hurt the 0-60 times. Do you guys try both not brake torqueing and brake torqueing?
There should be a comparison with the new pro 4x vs the old pro 4x
Now this seems worthwhile. Maybe throw in a similarly priced and capable Tacoma as well.
Way too small of a sample size (fuel amount and distance) to be accurate, unfortunately. Need to run an entire tank through so the inaccuracy of a where the pump clicks off (even using your method) doesn't throw off your hand calculation. 2.4 gallons is just too small of an amount to get accurate numbers. Still interesting, but just not very precise. I'd say anything less than around 15 gallons is going to give questionable results. But I get that it takes time and money to do a long enough loop to get a more realistic and accurate numbers. Would be nice to see, though, as these short 2.4 gallon, 50 - 60 mile loops aren't producing reliable numbers and that, after all, is what we are after.
I like the fact that the frontier will fit in my garage too!! No full size truck or SUV will. Hard to steal.
Ohhh gosh. You have to...Manually stick a key in an ignition and...turrrn it. How long will it take me to recoup from that arduous task?!
Wait until you test the Lighting
Wish you would do one on flex fuel . Seems you can convert newer gm’s to flex fuel with a sensor and pigtail wire and reprogram.
Plug and play -
Anyone out there do this ???
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A great architect, once said, "less is more", meaning that sometimes the simple solution is the best. I drive a 2014 F 150, XLT extra cab. I have a nice heavy Leer topper on this truck as well. I get between 21 and 23 Mpg on highway driving going the speed limit. I have the tried and tested, 5.0 naturally apirated V8. It has tons of power, will pull anything i want to hang on the bumper, and, enough bells and whistles to make it comfortable and convenient. It is relaible, and, the four wheel drive is great here in northern Minnesota snow country. I have the six and one half foot bed, and, as a retired contractor who still does a bit of work, i can haul just about anything i want. Why would i need or want these newer more complicated, vehicles for the minimal advantages in mileage? Makes no sense for me, if i drove one as a commuter vehicle every day, and, put twenty to thirty thousand miles on it every year, i might consider a change, but, if you drive a normal amout of miles the savings in mileage do not add up.
Hybrids are not efficient at highway speeds, where in city driving is where they excel.
Great video and comparison. Overall the F150 was nearly the same MPG and a LOT quicker. Mid-size had a nicer interior, need to compare the Ranger to the Nissan Now! both are priced similarly.
I got 33mpg in my 2018 Ridgeline AWD today country road driving and I carried the same cargo as you and 95% of people on the road. That cargo being 1 person, the driver.
Good for you
5 decibels is a BIG difference...
Yup. Most people don't understand what a logarithmic scale is.
The Powerboost will obviously shine in and around town, and on the highway as long as you keep those Ecoboost turbos in check. They're monsters when fully awake but your mpg will take a serious hit. I believe the Frontier's efficiency will improve at sea level.
Yes, it will. I live at higher elevation than the TFL guys and my truck's MPG clearly improves when I go to lower elevations.
I did 0-60 in 5.8 secs in my 21 Lariat powerboost but using 89 octane mid grade and in normal Drive mode but I am 138lbs, and city MPG is always between 26-32mpg City, so I am Very happy with this New F150 Hybrid
How much more did you pay compared to a non-hybrid version of your truck? I'm curious because I have been trying to calculate how long it takes to earn back the premium for a more fuel efficient truck. In my case I am comparing a Ram 1500 with the 5.7 Hemi to the same model with a diesel. I'm just curious to compare the premiums on different trucks with different drivetrains.
@@u.s.fiscalforecast4149 The Full option Hybrid option is $3500 added on window sticker that came on my truck, the HWY MPG is pretty much always 21 to 25, but pretty much what is rated 24 mpg at speeds of 73 MPH, City MPG is where this really Shines for me, my GMC AT4 6.2L was always around 13-15MPG on 91 octane only which sucked
No expensive turbo replacement costs or hybrid system repairs on the Nissan Frontier ever to worry about. That is probably where more savings can be made, long term.
The noise level is significantly different, in favour of the Nissan. Unnecessary noise is a big bugbear for me.
I'm typically not on freeways but I'm on state highways often. Going 60 mph. In these condition, I beat the mileage estimates by a good margin. Constantly at or a bit over 25 mpg with the Pro-4x. Only 3 mpg lower than a Kia Soul I had years ago lol.
You’re forgetting to mention the tank size difference… hoping this new frontier is better… my 2017 does like 15mpg and gets like 450kms per tank. Brutal Imo
Are they doing tests at Colorado elevations? Why do they even bother...🤬The blade key is for the tailgate. Nissan changed over to push button start when the 3.8L V6 was installed in the old model for the 2020 model. The new trucks since the 2020 model year have 2 key fobs and 1 blade key. The key fobs also have hidden blade keys for the tailgate.
I'd always take mid size over full size, fuel efficiency is good with them & it's a easy truck to live with as a daily driver.
If you're going to buy a mid sized truck get the ranger or don't get one at all. Such a nice truck, but still not worth losing the huge interior with the air cooled seats and in my case, the options for hand free driving on our trips from Maine to California and Florida lol
You guys Rock!!🎉🎉🎉❤
I like the Nissan so much. I like that the v6 is standard which will make maintenance and parts simple across all trims. I expect the non turbo naturally aspirated v6 to last a long time with regular maintenance. I like that the all trims have nice standard features and specifically that it does not have auto engine stop and start. If they keep this style for a decade they will have a decent following. I can’t think of much that could be added except the only V8 Nissan sells.
Andre! But how much premium was still in the tank when you topped it off with regular? Hmmm.
Hi guys thanks for all the great content like always I remember a while back you guys did a video of a mpg loop with the modified white f150 with a camper can you guys try on a stock truck between a bed extender ,soft & hard Tonneau cover & camper to see which is best or even best value between these that would be awesome
Good lord. I saw 58db in the fronty! that's quieter than some cheap dishwashers...
That 22 plus mpg on the highway by the frontier is quite impressive. But I will stick with my paid for 2008 f150 and it's sorry 4 speed A/T as I do not wish to spend $44 grand on a new mid sized truck and have a huge monthly payment to make for 6 years.
Nissan heavily rebates it's trucks. You can get a fully loaded titan pro4x for 49k!
Smooth video Andre
I'm not big on Nissan, but thats the best looking truck they've ever made. I don't think Hybrids make sense on the money side, you'll NEVER save enough money on fuel to offset the cost. If you bought it because you love the "idea" then that's ok.
I really like the new Nissan and I'd surely take it over the current ranger, colorado, or tacoma.....but the f150 is pretty impressive and I need the extra capacity and capability of the full size truck. F-150 for me. BTW I'm excited to see you guys start testing the lightning and other electric trucks when they are available.
are you guys getting the new Ford Maverick? I really hope so.
Yes, we are driving it next week. Please stay tuned!
@@TFLtruck Awesome!!
@@TFLtruck is it going up the Ike?
@@TFLtruck YEEEEEEAAAAAAHHHHH BUDDY!!!
YESSSSS, I'm seriously considering retiring my VW TDI wagon (40mpg) and replacing it with a Maverick which is similar MPG and I can throw bikes in the bed rather than on the roof!
Gotta love the Ford MPG Lie o' Meter. There is a procedure to adjust it to be more accurate to a hand calculation. It hurts initially seeing the lower numbers but at least I know it's the truth now and I'm not just making myself feel good.
I have a 2016 F150 with the 5.0 v8. The readout gas mileage is generally within a half mile of a gallon give or take. It gets way more accurate the more miles one puts on the tank too. The first 5 gallons are usually all over the place.
Also, do the dash plastic “push test” you’ll be shocked at the ford squeaks and noises
There is a 2022 frontier pro4x in this green color for $40k at the local Nissan dealer great looking truck!
What is that with the pressurized fuel tank? What happens if you don't "press the button and wait?"
Adding a button like that is suspicious from an engineering viewpoint. It is often a shortcut for doing the job the right way, but some times the right way is impractical or impossible.
We love nissan frontier nismo R with gtr nismo engine and nismo aftermarket parts in it
Interesting comparison of the value packages of two sizes
Andre, wasn't your first 0-60 test in that F150 5.4 seconds when you first got the truck? What gives? 87 octane fuel?
Can't wait for you to do the 2022 tundra
Is 50 miles really far enough to get good numbers though?
that is OK mileage. i check my 2005 250 4x4 super duty and it is not far off this. Now a point i have a diesel so it is after i have changed it a bit. but still i am in the 19-20 range with a truck that weights 8 to 9k. great video just wish the new trucks would get better millage.
I would rather have a naturally aspirated engine for the long term. Twin turbo hybrids will be a reliability dream in the future lol
Funny I have two twin turbo f 150 with over two hundred thousand on both. I do all the service when do and I use full synthetic motor oil with good filter. Zero problems
@@thunderroad7289 do you have the hybrid?
Ill agree the hybrid system in the f150 is different then fords auto hybrids but many ford hybrid fusion and cmax are used in taxi and delivery services and many have 3-500k on them.
I used to get better mileage using high test. I wonder if that would have changed the results? I can't believe I'm saying this but I liked the looks of the Toyota. Nice team work.
The Nissan is a good looking truck, but I prefer the cloth seats, key ignition, and no sunroof that the Ford has. I would like to see you guys get a Frontier in a King cab and see how it compares to the Pro 4X. Not a fan of crew cab trucks.
I have a 2017 Silverado 5.3L 2wd. I use cruise control all the time. I can get 23-24 mpg on highway @ 65 mph on flat roads (houston area)
Depending on wind, I have gotten 25 mpg @ 65.
Not sure why midsize trucks get such bad mpg relative to their size and power compared to full-size trucks.
I think that if had been a trim level to trim level comparison you’d see a difference. The F150 is an xl without a lot of bells and whistles. It should’ve gone up against an S model Frontier with 4WD. No moon room and no heavy suspension parts from the pro4x trim.
Was the battery full charged?
More with Case! Good vid. Boys. 🙏☘️
Very fun video.
Do a city-only test loop. You may see the F-150 do much better, especially if it can run in EV mode for a couple of miles. Generally, hybrid SUVs and trucks get better mileage in city/urban driving than on the highway due to factors like weight and aerodynamics
It is NOT just good TV, it is REAL LIFE TV!
What is this pressurized fuel button thing on the hybrid 150? Never heard of that before!
As a former Nissan Frontier owner (2001) that MPG was shocking.
New Frontier seems much better than the dated Tacoma.
Not sure about the reliability department.
@@robertrioux7409 Yeah I know what you mean Robert, those Tacomas are made in Mexico. Don't know if I can trust that reliability vs. an American made Frontier...
What's the 30 second fueling? Never heard of it
If you did this test with stop and go and heavy traffic test the f150 might be a little more efficient because hybrids are known to better on fuel in the city
Only problem is you said the F150 was 5700 pounds but didn’t state the weight of the Nissan pro
This comparison is great, I was thinking about this, does full size hybrid trucks can equals or beat a midsize truck in fuel efficiency?
In fuel efficiency yes, but MSRP isn't even close...
the only small truck that doesnt get half mileage is the tacoma. mine got 20 on a good day.
I have the 2019 Ridgeline AWD and average 24mpg with 65/35 highway driving.
non-hybrid full size trucks can also get equal if not better mileage than a mid sized truck as long as the full sized truck is not a V8. Eg, my Ram has the Pentastar V6 and it always gets 23-25 MPG on the HWY at 70 MPH despite having a 1.5" leveling kit up front and 32" tires.
Full sized trucks almost always get more developed powertrains, transmissions with more gears, etc. Why? Because that's where the big money comes for automakers.
Mid sized trucks are just starting to catch up with more modern powertrains, just like this Frontier that went from 5 gears to 9 gears.
Given the size of the Ford. The Ford won given its a full size truck. I thought the Nissan would be significantly more fuel efficient not a dash.
I think the 0-60 hurt the F150 a lot more than the Frontier. But still, very good numbers from the Frontier.
I think Andre said without the 0 to60 test it might have been different, I think thats probably the case. The few people that I know who have those ecoboost truck say that they get real THIRSTY when you are on them, that you really have to baby them to get even kind of good mileage ( Im not sure about your version ) but i would think its the same. I think the Ford would have won without the drag raceing.All that said with bad gas mileage as the commercial says You could of had a V8!!!!!