Hi Nick, Love the SW dipsey. I couldn't find a knot I trusted in the main line so I tie a separate, small, mono loop running through one of the micro swivel eyes at the start of my leader. I do it for wire divers too. I've only tried it for one season, but so far-so good! If your videos aren't the best, they're one of 'em! Thanks Nick!
Nick, This is a great idea for getting a long lead on a Dipsy. I tried your way but found the loop hard to get past my rod tip, particularly if there were a lot of water fleas. So I have gone in a different direction. I attach a OR 14 clip to a short lead (6") from the Dipsy and tie a stopper knot a foot or so from the knot between the braid and the fluoro leader. The stopper knot is simply an overhand knot with a about 4-5 overhands in it. It makes a sort of a barrel knot when tightened down. The OR 14 clip will not come off the line as long as you make sure you have the line inside the pin and it will not slide past the stopper knot. This has worked for me for the last two trips and I've gotten a couple of fish on it. Works the same as your setup, just reach up and unclip the Dipsy from the line, but the knots go easily through the rod tip. What do you think?
I used your setup and just landed a 25lb chinook. Man I was nervous but I did exactly what you said and it was a breeze. So nice to not have to fight the Dipsy the whole time. Thanks Nick.
What a simple remedy for leed line and dipsies. Not just no more hand over hand, but no more storage of leed lines. Come to think of it no more leed lines period!!!😊
Thanks for the update, Nick! I have been using offshore clips on my dipsies, but am starting with wire and that wasn’t going to work for that. When I rig that up I’m going with this.
I love this set up. Been using since your first video years ago on my braided high divers. I used a small piece of shrink tube, pre shrunk and tied the loop right in the braid. I have had two or three hard fighting Lake Ontario Kings and steelhead thrash the dipsy off the clip a couple times - besides that it works very very well! Efficient and easy!
Thanks for the feedback. Yes your idea is a good one for the braid line. The biggest problem with the braid is getting the loop to open but your solution fixes that. I have not lost any divers yet. Thanks again for your feedback. Good luck
I understand the reason to use 30 pound mono to make your loop, but wondering if you shouldn’t make the loop as close to the braid as you can, which should reduce the stretch even further for easier releases, with the loop being closer to the no stretch braid? Secondly, why not just run the majority of your leader as 30 pound test mono to your swivel, then run a shorter leader of about 4 or 5 feet of lighter line for lure action and reduced line visibility for the fish, thereby not requiring your swivel to go through the guides?
Hey Nick. Rumor has it that you have an SW dipsy for wire...I’d be curious to see what that’s like. Made my own version, but I’d be interested in seeing yours.
Great video Nick,,,, i have set up several leadcores and copper with loop so as to make the poles more versatile. So far it has worked out well. I have seen you talk about the KD tournament but can't find much info. Can you point me to a website for rules and information???? Thanks
HELP!!!! Built and ran your design today. No matter what the divers ran straight, not to either side. Started with a #1 and then #3 setting and no side motion only tracked straight. Missed something and need some advise. Thank you for the videos and all the efforts put into your channel.
@@NoFishNicksAdventures We certainly appreciate the quick follow up. Running a simple 50' lead with snap swivel and mag spoon. Ran out today and tested the same setup with one change. Instead of clipped to the swivel we clipped direct to the arm and it pulled to the side. Good to go! Nothing bit but atleast we got the rig to work. Thanks a ton!
Which swivels my question is what about glass eyes doesn’t it but the glass eyes when it goes through just a thought going to try this this weekend in 2023 in August over to Manistee and I was just wondering if it breaks the glass size I tied mine a piece of lead core use the noodles to put a line through the center of the leg cooler and then time I know I didn’t so I don’t have to use this just wondering
Why do you only tie in a 3 ft section of 30lb test? If you used a much longer run of 30lb and only a 8-10 ft section of leader you could then tie the swivel where the leader joins the 30 and it wouldn't have to be reeled thru the guides, possibly damaging the guide inserts?/
Nick, could you please comment on the specific size of the NIte Ize S clips, and if they can fit through the hole on the Dipsie, or do you have to make a mono loop to create a bigger opening for the S clip. Thanks again for sharing all of this great information
Nick, thanks for the video, great idea. When using as a high-diver, how do you clear your low diver.... straight out the back and then slide over top low diver? I'm used to swinging the dipsey over the low diver to set the high diver currently...
I also wish I could find small disks with the flip lock function like big ones, then I could run this without the pull of the disk with small/ mini disks.
That looks great but I cannot tell by the video what you are doing differently to rig it to come off with 60 feet of line left. Can you give a close up of the connection to the line and how you use it. If I missed it during a 17 minute video I apologize.
The S clip has a spring loaded latch on both ends so you attach one side of the clip to the Dipsy (release arm) and the other end of the S clip goes on and off of the loop that you put on your line. You have to push the spring latch with your finger tip to get it on and off. Good luck
Do you have any problems with getting your diver to release since there is nothing attached on the leader end of the diver? Also are you using a barrel swivel to attach the leader? If so what size? Thanks - good video!
@@slawson3044 dipsy releases just like normal. Swivels need to be small enough to get through your rod and reel. As stated in the video I use VMC 100# and less depending on the reel.
Tried this out on a run to SB last week, no fish on it yet but I like the setup. What rod do you use for the dd? Thanks for the tips, learning this system, still not sure what depths to be targeting for the kings, seems like they are all over
Why did you add the thirty pound mono section for the loop? Couldn't you just make a loop near the end of your braid, then attach the leader to that? I made a couple per your directions, they work great but would like to simplify the process if I can. Thanks for sharing this information.
When I tried it with the loop in the braid (fireline and or powerpro) it was very difficult to get the S-clip into the loop (loop would collapse and twist) causing lots of frustration. With the mono the loop stays open making for a fast and easy connection with the S-clip.
Hi Nick. I'm just starting out with the dippsy diver thing and was wondering if there was a difference in the depth the diver will go hooking it up this way. I like the video
Curious,,, with nothing attached to the back of the dipsy, if you catch a smaller fish, the dipsy will never trip, right? you gotta give the braid a huge tug for the dipsy to trip, & then maybe it'll help the rise to the surface? or just spin around?
Yes on small fish or if you have your Dipsys tightened up for rough conditions you may have to give it a little tug (just like a normal Dipsy). Good luck
That would be great but the swivel loops are way to small. They have to to fit through your guides and reel. Although you could probably get away with a wire clip. That might work if you can un-clip it and get it out of the swivel quickly. If I have the right size clips I might try this 🤔
I've ran SW dipseys like this on my braid and wires for 3 years now. Way less of a pain than 12ft or longer dipsey leaders in every conceivable way. I ran it your way for over a decade. Make the switch you'll never look back.
why couldn't a person just use an offshore planer board red clip. No loop in the line needed and is still removeable and has the nipple in on the clip and will not come off. It works
Yes but it was very tough for me to put the S clip in the loop once the braid (powerpro) got wet. Now I just slice in the mono because it keeps the loop nice and open for easy S clipping. Good luck
@@stevenbohren2588 use it to keep my swivels spinning freely and keep my tools and hooks from rusting. Fish don't mind the smell at all so it's good to use on fishing stuff.
@@NoFishNicksAdventures Are the s-clips metal or plastic? Nite Ize are plastic. I’m just getting started with Dipsy’s and this is the method I will be using.
Hey Nick, great vid man. I set this up on braid. Haven't caught a fish on a dipsey in 3 years but went 2 for 3 on the sw last night. Had one problem tho, all three hits did not trip the dipsey. Have you had this problem too? Is there any way I could fix it? I've loosened the tension on the dipsey but I'm afraid that if I do it anymore it will trip itself.
I have one set up on wire that uses two surgeons loops at the end of the wire. I used a small swivel to connect the wire to the leader and the S clip also clips into the surgeons loop. Good luck
@@NoFishNicksAdventures hey nick I just set my wire up for the s clip. I did a surgeon's knot leaving a long tag then I did another surgeon's knot with that tag (probablylike 10 inches between the 2 surgeon's knots). Then I half hitched that onto a swivel. Then I put 50 feet of leader material after that. I plan on clipping the dipsey on that surgeon's knot in the wire. Does this sound right?
@@NoFishNicksAdventures how long have u been doing it with wire? Not gonna lie I'm a little bit nervous because there is no snubber. I'm assuming the long lead will really help that though. Thanks, Bryant
Never Ever Run swivels through round guides. Your going to destroy your guides ! Only run swivels through Roller Guides. Get yourself a bobbin Knotter & Use the PR Knot or learn the FG Knot! A dropper loop knot will slide through your guides much smoother than that knobby wart you use
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Hi Nick, Love the SW dipsey. I couldn't find a knot I trusted in the main line so I tie a separate, small, mono loop running through one of the micro swivel eyes at the start of my leader. I do it for wire divers too. I've only tried it for one season, but so far-so good! If your videos aren't the best, they're one of 'em! Thanks Nick!
U don't use snubber for wire?
Nick, This is a great idea for getting a long lead on a Dipsy. I tried your way but found the loop hard to get past my rod tip, particularly if there were a lot of water fleas.
So I have gone in a different direction. I attach a OR 14 clip to a short lead (6") from the Dipsy and tie a stopper knot a foot or so from the knot between the braid and the fluoro leader. The stopper knot is simply an overhand knot with a about 4-5 overhands in it. It makes a sort of a barrel knot when tightened down. The OR 14 clip will not come off the line as long as you make sure you have the line inside the pin and it will not slide past the stopper knot. This has worked for me for the last two trips and I've gotten a couple of fish on it.
Works the same as your setup, just reach up and unclip the Dipsy from the line, but the knots go easily through the rod tip. What do you think?
I used your setup and just landed a 25lb chinook. Man I was nervous but I did exactly what you said and it was a breeze. So nice to not have to fight the Dipsy the whole time. Thanks Nick.
That's awesome!!!! Thanks for the feedback 😀
That's even easier than the 1st generation and that wasn't hard at all !! Great video Nick !! Keep em comin' ! ;)
I love my slide divers. Lead core on the rigger, cant believe I never thought of that.
Ran these last year and love it! I appreciate you sharing
Thank you very much, Nick! Appreciate your generosity. Hope to meet you on the ramp some day.
Great info. Camera angle was awesome!
What a simple remedy for leed line and dipsies. Not just no more hand over hand, but no more storage of leed lines. Come to think of it no more leed lines period!!!😊
Thanks for the update, Nick! I have been using offshore clips on my dipsies, but am starting with wire and that wasn’t going to work for that. When I rig that up I’m going with this.
Love watching your videos!!!! Keep up the good work!!
What a clever idea, I’m going to set my gear like this.
I love this set up. Been using since your first video years ago on my braided high divers. I used a small piece of shrink tube, pre shrunk and tied the loop right in the braid. I have had two or three hard fighting Lake Ontario Kings and steelhead thrash the dipsy off the clip a couple times - besides that it works very very well! Efficient and easy!
Thanks for the feedback. Yes your idea is a good one for the braid line. The biggest problem with the braid is getting the loop to open but your solution fixes that. I have not lost any divers yet. Thanks again for your feedback. Good luck
I understand the reason to use 30 pound mono to make your loop, but wondering if you shouldn’t make the loop as close to the braid as you can, which should reduce the stretch even further for easier releases, with the loop being closer to the no stretch braid? Secondly, why not just run the majority of your leader as 30 pound test mono to your swivel, then run a shorter leader of about 4 or 5 feet of lighter line for lure action and reduced line visibility for the fish, thereby not requiring your swivel to go through the guides?
Thanks for the updated technique. I think the swivel will be beneficial running flasher flys. Good luck this tournament season.
Hey Nick. Rumor has it that you have an SW dipsy for wire...I’d be curious to see what that’s like. Made my own version, but I’d be interested in seeing yours.
Thanks for all the great tips and tricks can you please give a link to the clips that you use to attach the dipsey to the loop
Much appreciated 🎣💚💦
Love your videos thanks for tip See if I can get some big salmon and trout
Great video Nick,,,, i have set up several leadcores and copper with loop so as to make the poles more versatile. So far it has worked out well. I have seen you talk about the KD tournament but can't find much info. Can you point me to a website for rules and information???? Thanks
Thanks, good luck with your set-ups. Here is a link to the KD Facebook page facebook.com/kdsalmon2021
HELP!!!! Built and ran your design today. No matter what the divers ran straight, not to either side. Started with a #1 and then #3 setting and no side motion only tracked straight. Missed something and need some advise. Thank you for the videos and all the efforts put into your channel.
If your pulling heavy loads use a mag dipsy or add a ring to if using that style. Good luck
@@NoFishNicksAdventures We certainly appreciate the quick follow up. Running a simple 50' lead with snap swivel and mag spoon. Ran out today and tested the same setup with one change. Instead of clipped to the swivel we clipped direct to the arm and it pulled to the side. Good to go! Nothing bit but atleast we got the rig to work. Thanks a ton!
Which swivels my question is what about glass eyes doesn’t it but the glass eyes when it goes through just a thought going to try this this weekend in 2023 in August over to Manistee and I was just wondering if it breaks the glass size I tied mine a piece of lead core use the noodles to put a line through the center of the leg cooler and then time I know I didn’t so I don’t have to use this just wondering
huh that's pretty cool guess you could get it unclipped solo very nice trick thanks
Why do you only tie in a 3 ft section of 30lb test? If you used a much longer run of 30lb and only a 8-10 ft section of leader you could then tie the swivel where the leader joins the 30 and it wouldn't have to be reeled thru the guides, possibly damaging the guide inserts?/
Nick, could you please comment on the specific size of the NIte Ize S clips, and if they can fit through the hole on the Dipsie, or do you have to make a mono loop to create a bigger opening for the S clip. Thanks again for sharing all of this great information
Small ones for keys 🔑 1/2 inch wide about 1" long.
Nick, thanks for the video, great idea. When using as a high-diver, how do you clear your low diver.... straight out the back and then slide over top low diver? I'm used to swinging the dipsey over the low diver to set the high diver currently...
Always liked this tactic. I really should try it on landlock Atlantics on lake Champlain
I would give it a try. They work for Brown trout.
I also wish I could find small disks with the flip lock function like big ones, then I could run this without the pull of the disk with small/ mini disks.
@@kylesmithvt luhr Jenson makes all sizes dipsey diver. Based in Washington state I believe
That looks great but I cannot tell by the video what you are doing differently to rig it to come off with 60 feet of line left. Can you give a close up of the connection to the line and how you use it. If I missed it during a 17 minute video I apologize.
The S clip has a spring loaded latch on both ends so you attach one side of the clip to the Dipsy (release arm) and the other end of the S clip goes on and off of the loop that you put on your line. You have to push the spring latch with your finger tip to get it on and off. Good luck
Amazing! Wish i can post pictures in the comments of the success ive had on it!
I am confused as to how this would trip not being attach to the back of the dipsey?
Awesome video. Do you have a link for the spring clips?
www.menards.com/main/tools/automotive/automotive-accessories/keychains-accessories/nite-ize-reg-stainless-steel-s-biner-reg-keyring/krgs-11-r3/p-4364363664544774-c-7568.htm?tid=-2243803966958874629&ipos=2
Do you have any problems with getting your diver to release since there is nothing attached on the leader end of the diver? Also are you using a barrel swivel to attach the leader? If so what size?
Thanks - good video!
@@slawson3044 dipsy releases just like normal. Swivels need to be small enough to get through your rod and reel. As stated in the video I use VMC 100# and less depending on the reel.
Spro power swivel size 8- use on all my copper splices, super small, and 50# rated- plenty of strength
Tried this out on a run to SB last week, no fish on it yet but I like the setup.
What rod do you use for the dd?
Thanks for the tips, learning this system, still not sure what depths to be targeting for the kings, seems like they are all over
How can the dips trip if it is not attached in the rear ?
Why did you add the thirty pound mono section for the loop? Couldn't you just make a loop near the end of your braid, then attach the leader to that? I made a couple per your directions, they work great but would like to simplify the process if I can. Thanks for sharing this information.
When I tried it with the loop in the braid (fireline and or powerpro) it was very difficult to get the S-clip into the loop (loop would collapse and twist) causing lots of frustration. With the mono the loop stays open making for a fast and easy connection with the S-clip.
@@NoFishNicksAdventures OK, thanks for the quick response, I don't need any more frustration!
Is there a reason you put the loop not on the mono and not the braided line. Thank you nick...
The mono holds the loop out making it really easy to clip on and off.
Hi Nick. I'm just starting out with the dippsy diver thing and was wondering if there was a difference in the depth the diver will go hooking it up this way. I like the video
I believe it runs very close to the listed dive curve. I'll be posting another video on the latest versions of the SWD within the next few days.
Great info, but I like using your Dacron over braid. Thanks. Waiting for the waves to settle down. Wind Wind and more Wind 👈
I’m with you bud. It’s been a tough week
Hi Nick could you use this with a flasher and fly or meat . Thanks Mike
Great idea and will try it out thanks
Curious,,, with nothing attached to the back of the dipsy, if you catch a smaller fish, the dipsy will never trip, right? you gotta give the braid a huge tug for the dipsy to trip, & then maybe it'll help the rise to the surface? or just spin around?
Yes on small fish or if you have your Dipsys tightened up for rough conditions you may have to give it a little tug (just like a normal Dipsy). Good luck
Could you attach the dipsey right to the swivel? That would eliminate two knots from your setup.
That would be great but the swivel loops are way to small. They have to to fit through your guides and reel. Although you could probably get away with a wire clip. That might work if you can un-clip it and get it out of the swivel quickly. If I have the right size clips I might try this 🤔
looks like a pain i run wire divers with 12 ft leaders and dont have a problem i have slide divers for my high divers but good idea thanks for sharing
It's not a pain dont be set in your ways. A 12 foot lead behind a dipsey is more of a pain than a removable dipsey
I've ran SW dipseys like this on my braid and wires for 3 years now. Way less of a pain than 12ft or longer dipsey leaders in every conceivable way. I ran it your way for over a decade. Make the switch you'll never look back.
Do you set up your wire same way as braid. I do this for braid thinking about doing it for wire also
you fishing blue door this weekend?
No I have to work this weekend.
why couldn't a person just use an offshore planer board red clip. No loop in the line needed and is still removeable and has the nipple in on the clip and will not come off. It works
I run braid for my dipsies. Can i just make a loop at 60ft as long as it fits through the guides? Thanks for all the tips over the years.
Yes but it was very tough for me to put the S clip in the loop once the braid (powerpro) got wet. Now I just slice in the mono because it keeps the loop nice and open for easy S clipping. Good luck
@@NoFishNicksAdventures we use a large coastlock snap
@@NoFishNicksAdventures Thanks. One other question. Whats the WD-40 you have in the back for?
@@stevenbohren2588 use it to keep my swivels spinning freely and keep my tools and hooks from rusting. Fish don't mind the smell at all so it's good to use on fishing stuff.
Any disadvantages to just putting the loop on braid main line?
Yes the loop folds when wet making it tough to get the S clip hooked.
Hi Nick good update. Do you have a dive chart for the amount of line out after the dipsy. Thanks Mike.
Go by what ever it states on the dipsy packaging or its manufacturer chart. Im sure if you Google it you'll find your brand. Good luck
@@NoFishNicksAdventures Are the s-clips metal or plastic? Nite Ize are plastic. I’m just getting started with Dipsy’s and this is the method I will be using.
@@timcohick6384 Metal. Not sure the plastic ones are strong enough.
You write thanks for the tip
Hey Nick, great vid man. I set this up on braid. Haven't caught a fish on a dipsey in 3 years but went 2 for 3 on the sw last night. Had one problem tho, all three hits did not trip the dipsey. Have you had this problem too? Is there any way I could fix it? I've loosened the tension on the dipsey but I'm afraid that if I do it anymore it will trip itself.
It doesn't trip if the fish are small or set to tight. Give it just little pull when grabbing the rod out of the holder and you'll be fine.
Charter captains say reel up tight,rod pointed AT dipsey, pull back steady. You should feel the "trip" of diver.
What kind of clip is that? I am familiar with carabiner clips but not this one.
Sorry don’t want to waste your time. I didn’t see Mr. Anderson’s comment until later. Looks like a good system for Lake Trout in my area.
Have you ever tried running lead core on your SWD ?
Not yet. I normally just run 50 feet of clear line.
Hey nick can I do this with my wire dipsey? How should I connect my wire to the 30# mono?
I have one set up on wire that uses two surgeons loops at the end of the wire. I used a small swivel to connect the wire to the leader and the S clip also clips into the surgeons loop. Good luck
@@NoFishNicksAdventures hey nick I just set my wire up for the s clip. I did a surgeon's knot leaving a long tag then I did another surgeon's knot with that tag (probablylike 10 inches between the 2 surgeon's knots). Then I half hitched that onto a swivel. Then I put 50 feet of leader material after that. I plan on clipping the dipsey on that surgeon's knot in the wire. Does this sound right?
@@bryantburns3664 should work. Good luck 👍
@@NoFishNicksAdventures thanks for all the help.
@@NoFishNicksAdventures how long have u been doing it with wire? Not gonna lie I'm a little bit nervous because there is no snubber. I'm assuming the long lead will really help that though. Thanks, Bryant
Just an idea. What if you put your loop on your tiny swivel. Then you wouldnt have any extra knot in your line?
That is what I'm currently trying with the wire dipsy. Seems to work ok so far.
I can not see how this would work with it set on anything but 0...
Been doing this for several years. Works great with high divers set on 3 low ones on 1
@@NoFishNicksAdventures I am going to give it a try. My only concern is it does not have a leader pulling on the diver to align it front to back.
Use a dropper loop
what happened to the leadcore?
That also works but I'm finding that the 30# mono is plenty tough enough and pretty simple to do.
Never Ever Run swivels through round guides.
Your going to destroy your guides !
Only run swivels through Roller Guides.
Get yourself a bobbin Knotter & Use the PR Knot or learn the FG Knot!
A dropper loop knot will slide through your guides much smoother than that knobby wart you use