@@AmeNGO758tapfire it It's very accurate on the first shot but it's range will full auto will make you volunrable to smokers It takes 2 shots to kill a common
Tip after watching the video if you guys rly wanna beat this achievement XD 1. If you not usually aim for the head, then using melee or magnum(deadle) is capable for one shot any common infected. Primary is much ideal to clear Special fast 2. When horde coming, try to pick high area to hold since common will took time to climb first 3. Same as no 2, if there’s no elevated area, try to put your back against the wall. This way you will reduce risk of getting atk from behind a lot 4. Reduce amount of friendly fire. Expert is really well known for much dmg you do when shooting teammate so try to not shot teammate and not pass through survivor who’s currently shooting. Trust me this is very life saver XD 5. The most important stay together and stay calm. One panic/stress event (example Horde) can ruin turn your run 180 so fast XD 6. ALWAYS and ALWAYS cover each other. Rescue possible survivors who being caught as fast and as safest as possible. Getting caught by special not only deteriorate their hp quick, but also rendering your caught teammate unable to do anything to help 7. (Good to Know) Current high dps weapon now to shutdown tank is AK47 so it better to have at least 1 teammate to use AK47 for dps dealer
you forgot to mention how highly important it is to shove the infected, staying together, avoiding friendly fire and shoving is like the basic of expert realism
@@aerial_noclip for shoving infected i do admit this is common sense for everyone to know XD for stay together and friendly fire i already mention in point 4 and 5 ✨🙏
Others posted their tips and tricks. Here are mine. - AK kills in 2 body hits, can be deadly accurate and can be sprayed and kills specials easily - Shotguns are better for those who struggle with aim - Never pick a sniper - Take the defib - Shove after melee attacks, they can't touch you like this if you miss or get a horde on you - If someone is downed, use them as bait - Only heal when black and white or before gauntlets - Know the map and save crucial throwables for difficult parts - Always have at least 1 molotov for tanks - Those in the front: Duck, don't move - In a horde: Don't run around, get a corner or back to back and don't move - If you intend to throw something, call it out. - Take the pills only if you're low and in danger - If someone takes a sniper, that person is the specials killer - If someone takes a sniper, headshot the witch, she stumbles for several seconds, collapse on her in that time. - If someone takes a sniper, they will need a good offhand weapon. - Katana > all melees - Chainsaws can help in Gauntlets - Never pick the grenade Launcher
The grenade launcher is a meme weapon, sure you can blast away hordes of commons but any of the tier 2 shotguns can already do that and with far lesser risk of friendly fire.
What if I told you Dead Center is probably the easiest of the L4D2's campaigns? (Not counting the ones from the first game) but now you're in too deep. Send it
@@DemonKingCozar Nah, camp in the back area of the plantation house where there's that staircase by the little table of pills/adrenalines, right near where you first enter the house from the backyard scaffolding. Any team or even often solo players can hold out there, especially if you position two players upstairs and two down. Hordes and specials have to approach you from a decent distance along either of two narrow paths, and then when the tank comes you just either run up or down depending on where you see him arrive and then you've got easy juke loops right there. I'm a pretty unskilled player in terms of actual shooting accuracy and pathing skills etc, but this strat really helps. That said, yeah without clutch strats like this it's definitely a brutal finale lol
There's a cheese for this achievement if you're fine with that kinda thing. It's how I got it on xbox. Though I'm not sure if it works on pc, especially with the last stand being out. To start things off, load up an EASY realism campaign and go through it as normal. Once you reach the finale safe room, have the people who want the achievement LEAVE the game as soon as it loads up. After that, host will do the finale as normal (i highly recommend dead center for this) and after the second tank is killed, immediately change the difficulty to expert and invite your friends. Finish it and BOOM cheevo is all yours :)
A little side note, if you're doing dead center for this you'd invite your friends and do the difficulty switch right as you're putting in the last gas can. I recommend this map because if you're quick enough, you won't even have to fight a tank at all.
What i did was i went on dark carnival on realism easy play until the final stage once you get the the final quit then switch to expert if you're lucky get a bile bomb from either one of the toilet rooms or kitchen area get on the door shutters where the fireworks would be then you're in a godspot to where commons won't spawn neither specials or tanks wait for the chopper to land near by throw bile as you run you should be home free the only problem you'll have will be the teammate bots unless you're doing it as a 4 man unit
here are some tips from a masochist myself (i play modifications that make the game go way above realism expert): - fireaxe and shovel are beasts, they rarely suffer from that weird failed hitbox detection bug, have a good range and area of attack, you just need to learn how to time it right (katanas are also pretty good, but shorter range and faster hits) - as soon as you get a good melee weapon or a deagle, use it as a primary weapon and save your actual primary for special infected. always pick a mini-14 (hunting rifle) and G3SG (military sniper) if you are good with headshots or the AK and the SCAR if not (m16 and sg552 have a very low damage compared to these 2. a mac-10 with laser sight is a better option than the m16 and sg552 with laser sights) - take things slower, advance areas slowly, crouch when shooting to get the best possible accuracy, shove zombies that you cant kill fast enough - if you're still early game, get a MAC-10 (silenced SMG), crouch, dont move and aim for their heads, you are going to melt them very quickly - avoid tier 1 shotguns (non-auto shotguns), they are too slow and have really crappy accuracy - easiest strategy to kill a tank is to throw a molotov and let him burn, run very far away and make sure no one in the team is slow - you can easily kill a witch by throwing a molotov in her and going AFK before the fire hits her (you can set a custom bind to go AFK quickly) - save pills and adrenaline for panic events or tanks - when you hear a horde, quickly find a corner and defend it with all you can (by shoving A LOT). only revive your teammates when the horde is over - tight corridors and entrances are great when fighting big groups - save throwables for emergency situations (horde coming from all sides without having a good place to defend, too many allies downed, etc) - DO NOT use the default pistols and the pitchfork, these 2 are a must avoid at all costs - zombies often enough will rush at you and try to connect a perfect hit in the exact second they reach you, shove them first and shoot later, this happens a lot, always shove if you dont know what to do - either always keep the game sound high enough to hear a zombie coming from the back, or always keep an eye on where the zombies are coming from (i personally prefer the first option) any questions feel free to ask, i'll help as much as i can
If you want confirmation on headshots with the silenced mac 10 is to get a mod where tier 1 weapons leave bullet holes in common's head like tier 2's. And if you hate crouching use shift to walk and aim for heads.
avoid tier 1 shotguns (non-auto shotguns), they are too slow and have really crappy accuracy Tier 1 shotguns have much better accuracy then t2 autoshotguns - you can easily kill a witch by throwing a molotov in her and going AFK before the fire hits her (you can set a custom bind to go AFK quickly) FUCK GLITCHES. AND FUCK U. Now about real ways to kill a witch. She can't broke the door on realism, u can easily kill her with teammate by hiding behind the door. In campaign u can just use an shotgun it's not hard to crown witch. If witch is sitting(nighttime map) then u can throw molotov into her she's gonna be slower than healthy survivor, just run away from her. If u have teammate with melee and u have melee urself it's very easy to kill her in 2-3-4 people with melees.(use on realism when can't hide behind the door.) Also it's really easy to kill her if WHOLE TEAM shots her together from some distance. PLAY THE GAME AS INTENDED. smg is better than m16 and sg552 that's true. - fireaxe and shovel are beasts, they rarely suffer from that weird failed hitbox detection bug, have a good range and area of attack, you just need to learn how to time it right (katanas are also pretty good, but shorter range and faster hits) Bro u can just tell that Fireaxe, katana, and machete the best melees in their category. Fireaxe slow but wide range Machete fast but tight range Katana is middle between these two. not too slow but not too fast. not too wide but not too tight Also. autoshotguns is the way the most op weapon for realism expert and all other modes tbh If we're gonna skip them. Avoid snipers at all cost u need 3 bodyshot to kill common that's just too much. non-silenced uzi is worse than silenced smg Pump shotgun is worse than chrome shotgun m16 is gonna be faster and more accurate than ak47 i prefer m16 cuz of that. but ak47 very good pick cuz of dmg. Scar and sg552 honestly doesn't worth it for realism expert. but if ur low on ammo... Scar is gonna be better. Also rifles(sg552,scar,m16,ak47) is the fastest and safest way to kill tank. cuz shooting him slows down him a bit. Save biles for crescendo and throw them out of bounds. Use molotov on hordes. ur life worth more than one molotov. Try to save medkit until gray(depends or situation)
@@nekowhixp some melee weapons have wider swings than others, but their range is all identical when it comes to how far away they reach. Knife is the best melee, it has the same amount of hitrays as the axe and has one consistent swing instead of two or three while being a lot faster.
@@jeti9143 if you need accuracy why bring a shotgun then? T1's fire rate makes them pretty bad for most newcomers, at least T2 you can compensate it with their speed molotov killing a witch is a great choice for beginners who wont be going in to maps and training crowning her (or just replaying the game for +400h for that matter), whats next, teaching newcomers how to melee kill a tank? and yes, you can just molo her and run, but its the same thing and you wont need to go back a lot of the map and waste so much time i used to agree with the fireaxe, katana and machete thing but the machete just fails WAY too much and the shovel's only real weakness is the fact that it doesnt cut, which is fair if you like cutting smoker's tongue "Avoid snipers at all cost u need 3 bodyshot to kill common that's just too much." well thats why i recommended using a deagle or melee weapon and saving them for SI, their accuracy is pretty worth it and if you can headshot SI, even better, AWP and scout are pretty meh tho "Save biles for crescendo and throw them out of bounds." ........didnt you just said "FUCK GLITCHES" in the beginning of your comment???
@@orandza023 i think i expressed myself poorly, i meant range in the sense of being able to rotate and easily hit everything around, which the fireaxe and shovel make it really easy to visualize and attempt sucessfully, not exactly how far the hits go, and area of attack as their hitrays themselves, poor wording of my part honestly also disagree with the knife being the best, but i see where you are coming from, its pretty good
Hey there I can help with some tips 1. The magnum one shots common infected even if in realism 2. Take defibs when you use your med kits 3. Use medkits when you are on black and white health 4. Shotguns are the best because everything is like BB guns 5. Witches won’t agro on you if you throw a moly and you take a break( don’t click to get out until the witch is on fire) Hope this helps
@@arufu6339 well, it's kinda not. M16 is really useful to mow through heads on a level ground, really useful for holding choke points. But any elevation renders it useless. Sniper rifles on the other hand, while being even greater at sweeping choke points in normal mode, are useless in any scenario on realism.
They made it further than that one guy who called left for dead a walking simulator did and he played on easy, well done gamers. This is like watching me and my cousin playing expert realism for the first time, took us days to get through every single campaign and countless attempts, fuck crash course, fuck plantation defense, and fuck heavy rain in its entirety. Now for some tips you didnt ask for in case you do end up trying again (please try again this was funny as fuck and I wanna see you gamers succeed) - Melee weapons are a must, that or the deagle if it available. - Save Med Kits more, dont just heal after 1 down, they'll last longer, even if you have to kill a low health teammate at the end of the mission just to have them start in green health the next mission. For the greater good. - When a hoard is coming you'll hear a tune play and youll hear them running in the distance, that's your que to jump on top of something, get inside of a small room, or put your backs against a wall and get ready for melee combat, if all 4 of you stick together, you can survive even out in the open with melees. But always try and be on top of something and force the zombies to climb up to you, you can just shove em back down or melee them while climbing. - Shove is OP, it persists even turning, so you could spin and shove and get more zombies off of you than just the ones in front of you. It can also cancel parts of the reload animations making reloads very slightly faster, and it can cancel the pump shotgun's pump animation, so you can shoot, shove and get another shot off a little faster - There's a god spot on no mercy you can abuse if you want an easier time getting the last level done, but I recommend going to crash course, its only 2 levels long, and its got a super tough defense on the 2nd level, but failing 2 levels 200 times is better than failing 5 levels 100 times. - Don't move in front of the pack, stay in eye shot but never in front, this is to prevent teamates from shooting you. - You can shove Jocky and hunters mid air if you time it right, could save yourself, you could shoot the smoker tongue instead of the smoker to save your teammate, or just shove them. - You can cut the smoker tongue before it hits you if your timing is right - The best guns on realism are shotguns and automatic guns, aim for the head with rifles, this is because on realism zombies take much less damage in the torso (unless you have a melee or a shotgun) - Always always always set a tank on fire if possible, but if not, bait a downed teammate, the tank will try and crush them, meaning it can't hit you even if you keep meleeing it, melees do a shit ton of damage to the tank. - Special infecteds can only spawn in limited numbers, so if you keep a spitter alive or a boomer, then just book it, they'll be playing catch up while you book it to the end, its not always the best idea but it can help if you're last alive. - If you fail, try and try again, its difficult but you'll make it with enough practice, good luck guys and thanks for the funny video and giving me a chance to reminisce to when I tried this with my cousin. We went through the same pain. Sorry for the paragraph, hope this helps if you end up trying again.
i was able to get this achievement solo on the passing campaign on my 3rd try, mainly because there are only 3 safe houses towards the final. so the campaign itself was pretty short, and since i did it solo. the last part where you had to fill up the generators with gas only needed 10 gas cans(instead of 16 on multiplayer), and some things i learned is every chapter in a campaign (expert) usually has a tank or a witch that will be the biggest obstacle to the safe house, and usually spawn in specific areas and if i might give a tip to people who want to try this achievement, the passing in singleplayer would be your best choice imo
My tip, the actual easiest map for this achievement is the parish. 1st chapter is very short, the event of the 2nd chapter isnt that hard as long as you rush to the alarm and camp there until the horde ends. 3rd chapter only has that part with the car alarms you have to avoid 4th map has a holdout that shouldnt be too hard. And the finale is just rushing, you can even avoid the tank.
Ive gotten so used to expert realism since i did it almost as soon as i got the game (yes it was miserable but we got good, sorta), and that its kinda funny seeing people doing these same difficulties for the first time just like what me and my friends did, haha
From what I heard, and mainly my source being from WSG, is that Crash Course is a great campaign to get the achievement on, since while the levels are long, its only 2 levels, meaning its also the shortest if you know what your doing...
this achievement is insanely easy because any relatively experienced player knows that as long as you keep moving the special infected have almost no time to spawn. That being said you picked the mall, so i imagine the alarm crescendo wasn’t fun if you didn’t save a bike bomb or pipe bomb. lets watch an see
@@MazetheWolf-Dragon I wouldn't mind playing it if it was on Xbox for purchase/installation if possible, but it won't let me get it which sucks (especially since I have no disc drive and no game sharing)
i did get this achievement in 2012. I did it on Dark Carnival, cause that campaign is shorter and the ending is easier to survive at the sniper tower as long as you take care of smokers and tanks. I got it playing with random players at the time, but it took us a good 4 or 5 hours to complete it
I'd argue that getting a 4 vs 4 versus team and winning is harder, even with people intentionally trying to get it. Thats 8 people, including the host of the server, that could potentially have to get off, have internet problems, or be sent to the main menu for no reason.
Are you referring to a different achievement than the video is about? Versus isn't compatible with difficulty adjustment. Not unless you use custom mutations mods or whatever, at least
@ItsAsparageese If I recall correctly, you are supposed to win a versus or scavenge against a team of 4 with 4 of your own. What makes it harder is that the achievement says you have to do it with the same teams. So all 8 people have to stay there or else you won't get it. I could be wrong though.
@@superderfmen Oh yeah, that's Strength In Numbers. But in retrospect I think I originally misunderstood your first comment anyway lol, I thought you were discussing something relating to the achievement in the video but now I see that you were arguing that a different achievement could be called the hardest one lol. It's obvious now that I reread what you said. My bad
i got this achievement back in 2009, the best advice I can give is to stay close, move together, hunker down for zombie waves. Don't forget to bash boomers before you kill them, you can also free a teammate from all special infected with a melee bash, always go for headshots, and deagle is your friend. Lastly, a headset is absolutely mandatory as directional sound is vital in this game. You can hear zombies coming up behind you and react with a bash before they can touch you.
Me and my friends did this on last stand campaign it was a pain 3 nights in a row and the comms are like playing a competitive game lmao and the relief after completing it, we basically got 3 achievements at once when we completed it
I remember doing this with a bunch of randoms. The common problem we had was we always misook each other for a common infected, I told them that we should get a mod that changes the characters' appearances so we can differentiate ourselves from an infected. We tried again multiple times but we still sucked XD We never finsihed it, but we became friends after that.
I may be late asf, but if you wanna try it again, the easiest campaign by far for this achievement is The Parish, 1st chapter is free rushing, 2nd bit harder to rush but with melee still easy, 3rd is hard only because of its length, 4th is the hardest but bc you gotta hold a spot but not for so long, and the last one is to run nonstop.
I got this achievement in 2014.... I don't remember getting it like, but I was hard in to L4D2 at the time. I also remember joining an unofficial server and getting about 5 achievements all at once.
Me and my friends got 3 achievement in dark carnival. 1.Expert - realism 2. Play the finale without going down the stage 3. Board gnome in the chopper It's hella fun and frustrating that you have to redo the game multiple times just to complete these.
I got this achievement in 2018 by just enjoying the game, Expert Realism feels very satisfying to beat, other difficulties are a little bit too easy. Id say the hardest overall difficulty is doing this as a solo survivor no bots and no teammates.
The Real Deal is NOTHING compared to the Killing Spree achievement, you have to survive for like, 10 minutes on EVERY Survival map, which there are 43 OF, this one will take you absurdly longer than 1 super hard campaign
Its definitely harder I would say, If you aren’t well experienced in l4d it can be a time consuming process as you need to find actual good lobbies. Luckily Gold Miners exist and they’re a pretty good survival community whose servers you can usually stumble across
I remember I did mine solo on Blood Harvest because in finale there's a spot on the roof where infected cant reach you... well it's 5 chapters so 4 chapter is a struggle really so probably not the best way.
I'd argue 30 minutes on survival is much harder than this, especially with how much shotguns and the magnum trivializes the hardest aspect of realism (the commons)
The environment is your best friend (And sometimes your worst enemy).Doors, cars, and basically everything that you do, the zombies have to do also except for some members of the special infected, they are dirty cheaters). Despite them being able to climb n such, you can insta kill common infected by being on the ledge of where they climb. Idk why but they give up if they see you camping the ledge.
I've got this achievement twice before. Once with friends in xbox live and once many years later on steam alone. Both times on the plantation because that felt the easiest. I'd like to believe this is why the group broke up on xbox live.
I never thought that people found this mode that difficult, I played on expert pretty much since the beginning, and after beating all the campaings the logical step was to add realism in the mix, but I guess most of the player base plays on normal (?)
My ass got carried by what Im sure was a trio queueing together. We just booked it the entire map and these guys had the aim of bots and awareness of the AI director. Blew my mind
Me personally say that the hardest still is "Last Frontier" achievement (Survive The Last Stand in expert realism). We done bunch of retries at the finale, even with my pro L4D player. Thanks for him and other players, everyone just so focused to win that campaign we became more strategized and carefully planned what should we did. Tried every roles and weapon combination to pass through the waves of zombies. F*ck those Tanks at final wave! F*ck generator filling task! Deymm I still shaking after jumped into the ship back on that day lol I wish I could play this game again with those fun and chaotic feeling. Truly my most favourite game of all times 💜
I managed to get it with bots on singleplayer, but in doing so, since I couldn't save my game and come back, when I needed a break, I would pause and keep the game playing in the background and my PC really hated me for it. I was NOT losing my progress though lol
If you ever try doing this again id recommend doing the last stand as you can go for “the last frontier” a 0.8% achievement and “the real deal” at the same time. Its what i did.
for sure! our problem is both that we wanted the video to actually be entertaining and so we fucked around quite a lot, and that alot of us just haven't played left 4 dead 2 in a while, inaneseven only had 11 hours while i haven't touched the game in a full year by that point, so we def coulda done with some practice on advanced and expert first instead of just jumping right in
I got the achievement as well as the expert only one. Using the admin system addon in workshop. At first I hesitate to use it but after a while it was good.
tip Bots are better than teammates They heal you so basically 3 medkits following you They're good at shooting smokers They shove boomers Only thing theyre bad at is tank fights which is decently easy to avoid if you have a chainsaw to keep the tanks agro and let coach wham on him with an autoshotgun(he's the only bot who always get that) And commons at every side They can only shoot at one direction And all threats will come to you So if your bots is far away from you they are safe As you just get jumped by everything conceivable Which is good if you manage to survive you get a healthy team to back you up if you get downed
the screaming of "stop shooting me" while running in front of his friends crossfire is criminal lmfao 💀
@@summerjc it was totally all their fault i am completely innocent
@@lapisfluff i strongly detest but ok
I remember having all the achievements in this game, then that awesome fucking update came out and took away my completion.
@@TequalHC damn that’s unfortunate
that actually sucks since theres so many difficult achievements
@@lapisfluff yeah, like having to play through the Last Stand campaign.
@@TequalHC I had the same issue but after a few years I was able to get 100% once more :D just gotta work on it
Same happended to me when i was at %100. It all reseted so i said fuck it and used a achievement unlocker. I aint doing the same thing twice
0:30 not to mention, Friendly fire actually means friendly fire and not friendly tickle.
But it's called friendly.
expert realism has one cheese, the deagle still oneshots common infected so you can use the deagle and save the primary for specials
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In expert realism (finished a campaign once on dark carnival, but it was actually hard af), if you are lucky enough to find an AK, use it
@@AmeNGO758tapfire it
It's very accurate on the first shot but it's range will full auto will make you volunrable to smokers
It takes 2 shots to kill a common
@@AmeNGO758 i was under the impression ak is only good for expert campaign and auto shotguns for expert realism
Tip after watching the video if you guys rly wanna beat this achievement XD
1. If you not usually aim for the head, then using melee or magnum(deadle) is capable for one shot any common infected. Primary is much ideal to clear Special fast
2. When horde coming, try to pick high area to hold since common will took time to climb first
3. Same as no 2, if there’s no elevated area, try to put your back against the wall. This way you will reduce risk of getting atk from behind a lot
4. Reduce amount of friendly fire. Expert is really well known for much dmg you do when shooting teammate so try to not shot teammate and not pass through survivor who’s currently shooting. Trust me this is very life saver XD
5. The most important stay together and stay calm. One panic/stress event (example Horde) can ruin turn your run 180 so fast XD
6. ALWAYS and ALWAYS cover each other. Rescue possible survivors who being caught as fast and as safest as possible. Getting caught by special not only deteriorate their hp quick, but also rendering your caught teammate unable to do anything to help
7. (Good to Know) Current high dps weapon now to shutdown tank is AK47 so it better to have at least 1 teammate to use AK47 for dps dealer
I'm gonna do this with my friends for no reason
ok
you forgot to mention how highly important it is to shove the infected, staying together, avoiding friendly fire and shoving is like the basic of expert realism
@@aerial_noclip for shoving infected i do admit this is common sense for everyone to know XD
for stay together and friendly fire i already mention in point 4 and 5 ✨🙏
Others posted their tips and tricks. Here are mine.
- AK kills in 2 body hits, can be deadly accurate and can be sprayed and kills specials easily
- Shotguns are better for those who struggle with aim
- Never pick a sniper
- Take the defib
- Shove after melee attacks, they can't touch you like this if you miss or get a horde on you
- If someone is downed, use them as bait
- Only heal when black and white or before gauntlets
- Know the map and save crucial throwables for difficult parts
- Always have at least 1 molotov for tanks
- Those in the front: Duck, don't move
- In a horde: Don't run around, get a corner or back to back and don't move
- If you intend to throw something, call it out.
- Take the pills only if you're low and in danger
- If someone takes a sniper, that person is the specials killer
- If someone takes a sniper, headshot the witch, she stumbles for several seconds, collapse on her in that time.
- If someone takes a sniper, they will need a good offhand weapon.
- Katana > all melees
- Chainsaws can help in Gauntlets
- Never pick the grenade Launcher
The grenade launcher is a meme weapon, sure you can blast away hordes of commons but any of the tier 2 shotguns can already do that and with far lesser risk of friendly fire.
What if I told you Dead Center is probably the easiest of the L4D2's campaigns? (Not counting the ones from the first game) but now you're in too deep. Send it
I've always found it to be one of the hardest. The mall is killer. The only harder part is the airport in Dead Air.
@alastor8091 the Left 4 dead 2 maps are way harder than the first game's
Hard rain is way easier trust. Dark carnival even easier let's not forget about the easiest map, swamp fever.
@DontLookAtMe096 bro that finale for Swamp Fever is impossible
@@DemonKingCozar Nah, camp in the back area of the plantation house where there's that staircase by the little table of pills/adrenalines, right near where you first enter the house from the backyard scaffolding. Any team or even often solo players can hold out there, especially if you position two players upstairs and two down. Hordes and specials have to approach you from a decent distance along either of two narrow paths, and then when the tank comes you just either run up or down depending on where you see him arrive and then you've got easy juke loops right there. I'm a pretty unskilled player in terms of actual shooting accuracy and pathing skills etc, but this strat really helps. That said, yeah without clutch strats like this it's definitely a brutal finale lol
There's a cheese for this achievement if you're fine with that kinda thing. It's how I got it on xbox. Though I'm not sure if it works on pc, especially with the last stand being out. To start things off, load up an EASY realism campaign and go through it as normal. Once you reach the finale safe room, have the people who want the achievement LEAVE the game as soon as it loads up. After that, host will do the finale as normal (i highly recommend dead center for this) and after the second tank is killed, immediately change the difficulty to expert and invite your friends. Finish it and BOOM cheevo is all yours :)
A little side note, if you're doing dead center for this you'd invite your friends and do the difficulty switch right as you're putting in the last gas can. I recommend this map because if you're quick enough, you won't even have to fight a tank at all.
What i did was i went on dark carnival on realism easy play until the final stage once you get the the final quit then switch to expert if you're lucky get a bile bomb from either one of the toilet rooms or kitchen area get on the door shutters where the fireworks would be then you're in a godspot to where commons won't spawn neither specials or tanks wait for the chopper to land near by throw bile as you run you should be home free the only problem you'll have will be the teammate bots unless you're doing it as a 4 man unit
@@JustinCase- Or just dont be dumb and download steam achievement manager
@@zerefoex this method is for non steam users obviously you moron
@@zerefoex this method is primarily for people who don't use steam you wet wipe.
here are some tips from a masochist myself (i play modifications that make the game go way above realism expert):
- fireaxe and shovel are beasts, they rarely suffer from that weird failed hitbox detection bug, have a good range and area of attack, you just need to learn how to time it right (katanas are also pretty good, but shorter range and faster hits)
- as soon as you get a good melee weapon or a deagle, use it as a primary weapon and save your actual primary for special infected. always pick a mini-14 (hunting rifle) and G3SG (military sniper) if you are good with headshots or the AK and the SCAR if not (m16 and sg552 have a very low damage compared to these 2. a mac-10 with laser sight is a better option than the m16 and sg552 with laser sights)
- take things slower, advance areas slowly, crouch when shooting to get the best possible accuracy, shove zombies that you cant kill fast enough
- if you're still early game, get a MAC-10 (silenced SMG), crouch, dont move and aim for their heads, you are going to melt them very quickly
- avoid tier 1 shotguns (non-auto shotguns), they are too slow and have really crappy accuracy
- easiest strategy to kill a tank is to throw a molotov and let him burn, run very far away and make sure no one in the team is slow
- you can easily kill a witch by throwing a molotov in her and going AFK before the fire hits her (you can set a custom bind to go AFK quickly)
- save pills and adrenaline for panic events or tanks
- when you hear a horde, quickly find a corner and defend it with all you can (by shoving A LOT). only revive your teammates when the horde is over
- tight corridors and entrances are great when fighting big groups
- save throwables for emergency situations (horde coming from all sides without having a good place to defend, too many allies downed, etc)
- DO NOT use the default pistols and the pitchfork, these 2 are a must avoid at all costs
- zombies often enough will rush at you and try to connect a perfect hit in the exact second they reach you, shove them first and shoot later, this happens a lot, always shove if you dont know what to do
- either always keep the game sound high enough to hear a zombie coming from the back, or always keep an eye on where the zombies are coming from (i personally prefer the first option)
any questions feel free to ask, i'll help as much as i can
If you want confirmation on headshots with the silenced mac 10 is to get a mod where tier 1 weapons leave bullet holes in common's head like tier 2's. And if you hate crouching use shift to walk and aim for heads.
avoid tier 1 shotguns (non-auto shotguns), they are too slow and have really crappy accuracy
Tier 1 shotguns have much better accuracy then t2 autoshotguns
- you can easily kill a witch by throwing a molotov in her and going AFK before the fire hits her (you can set a custom bind to go AFK quickly)
FUCK GLITCHES. AND FUCK U.
Now about real ways to kill a witch. She can't broke the door on realism, u can easily kill her with teammate by hiding behind the door. In campaign u can just use an shotgun it's not hard to crown witch.
If witch is sitting(nighttime map) then u can throw molotov into her she's gonna be slower than healthy survivor, just run away from her. If u have teammate with melee and u have melee urself it's very easy to kill her in 2-3-4 people with melees.(use on realism when can't hide behind the door.)
Also it's really easy to kill her if WHOLE TEAM shots her together from some distance.
PLAY THE GAME AS INTENDED.
smg is better than m16 and sg552 that's true.
- fireaxe and shovel are beasts, they rarely suffer from that weird failed hitbox detection bug, have a good range and area of attack, you just need to learn how to time it right (katanas are also pretty good, but shorter range and faster hits)
Bro u can just tell that Fireaxe, katana, and machete the best melees in their category.
Fireaxe slow but wide range
Machete fast but tight range
Katana is middle between these two. not too slow but not too fast. not too wide but not too tight
Also. autoshotguns is the way the most op weapon for realism expert and all other modes tbh
If we're gonna skip them.
Avoid snipers at all cost u need 3 bodyshot to kill common that's just too much.
non-silenced uzi is worse than silenced smg
Pump shotgun is worse than chrome shotgun
m16 is gonna be faster and more accurate than ak47 i prefer m16 cuz of that. but ak47 very good pick cuz of dmg.
Scar and sg552 honestly doesn't worth it for realism expert. but if ur low on ammo...
Scar is gonna be better.
Also rifles(sg552,scar,m16,ak47) is the fastest and safest way to kill tank. cuz shooting him slows down him a bit.
Save biles for crescendo and throw them out of bounds.
Use molotov on hordes. ur life worth more than one molotov.
Try to save medkit until gray(depends or situation)
@@nekowhixp some melee weapons have wider swings than others, but their range is all identical when it comes to how far away they reach. Knife is the best melee, it has the same amount of hitrays as the axe and has one consistent swing instead of two or three while being a lot faster.
@@jeti9143 if you need accuracy why bring a shotgun then? T1's fire rate makes them pretty bad for most newcomers, at least T2 you can compensate it with their speed
molotov killing a witch is a great choice for beginners who wont be going in to maps and training crowning her (or just replaying the game for +400h for that matter), whats next, teaching newcomers how to melee kill a tank?
and yes, you can just molo her and run, but its the same thing and you wont need to go back a lot of the map and waste so much time
i used to agree with the fireaxe, katana and machete thing but the machete just fails WAY too much and the shovel's only real weakness is the fact that it doesnt cut, which is fair if you like cutting smoker's tongue
"Avoid snipers at all cost u need 3 bodyshot to kill common that's just too much." well thats why i recommended using a deagle or melee weapon and saving them for SI, their accuracy is pretty worth it and if you can headshot SI, even better,
AWP and scout are pretty meh tho
"Save biles for crescendo and throw them out of bounds."
........didnt you just said "FUCK GLITCHES" in the beginning of your comment???
@@orandza023 i think i expressed myself poorly, i meant range in the sense of being able to rotate and easily hit everything around, which the fireaxe and shovel make it really easy to visualize and attempt sucessfully, not exactly how far the hits go, and area of attack as their hitrays themselves, poor wording of my part honestly
also disagree with the knife being the best, but i see where you are coming from, its pretty good
just bought this game about 2 weeks ago and it is absolute perfection
Hey there I can help with some tips
1. The magnum one shots common infected even if in realism
2. Take defibs when you use your med kits
3. Use medkits when you are on black and white health
4. Shotguns are the best because everything is like BB guns
5. Witches won’t agro on you if you throw a moly and you take a break( don’t click to get out until the witch is on fire)
Hope this helps
Finally someone confirmed me that every auto in realism is shite
@@arufu6339 well, it's kinda not. M16 is really useful to mow through heads on a level ground, really useful for holding choke points. But any elevation renders it useless. Sniper rifles on the other hand, while being even greater at sweeping choke points in normal mode, are useless in any scenario on realism.
@@evilbabai7083 3-5 sniper ammo to take down one normal, if headshots unaccounted is crazy
@@arufu6339 yeah, literally ANY weapon will perform better on realism, even the starter pistol, because it at least has an infinite ammo...
The Uzis are better than pump shotguns because a single bullet to the head kills a common. 50 rounds in the magazine vs 8 shells.
They made it further than that one guy who called left for dead a walking simulator did and he played on easy, well done gamers. This is like watching me and my cousin playing expert realism for the first time, took us days to get through every single campaign and countless attempts, fuck crash course, fuck plantation defense, and fuck heavy rain in its entirety.
Now for some tips you didnt ask for in case you do end up trying again (please try again this was funny as fuck and I wanna see you gamers succeed)
- Melee weapons are a must, that or the deagle if it available.
- Save Med Kits more, dont just heal after 1 down, they'll last longer, even if you have to kill a low health teammate at the end of the mission just to have them start in green health the next mission. For the greater good.
- When a hoard is coming you'll hear a tune play and youll hear them running in the distance, that's your que to jump on top of something, get inside of a small room, or put your backs against a wall and get ready for melee combat, if all 4 of you stick together, you can survive even out in the open with melees. But always try and be on top of something and force the zombies to climb up to you, you can just shove em back down or melee them while climbing.
- Shove is OP, it persists even turning, so you could spin and shove and get more zombies off of you than just the ones in front of you. It can also cancel parts of the reload animations making reloads very slightly faster, and it can cancel the pump shotgun's pump animation, so you can shoot, shove and get another shot off a little faster
- There's a god spot on no mercy you can abuse if you want an easier time getting the last level done, but I recommend going to crash course, its only 2 levels long, and its got a super tough defense on the 2nd level, but failing 2 levels 200 times is better than failing 5 levels 100 times.
- Don't move in front of the pack, stay in eye shot but never in front, this is to prevent teamates from shooting you.
- You can shove Jocky and hunters mid air if you time it right, could save yourself, you could shoot the smoker tongue instead of the smoker to save your teammate, or just shove them.
- You can cut the smoker tongue before it hits you if your timing is right
- The best guns on realism are shotguns and automatic guns, aim for the head with rifles, this is because on realism zombies take much less damage in the torso (unless you have a melee or a shotgun)
- Always always always set a tank on fire if possible, but if not, bait a downed teammate, the tank will try and crush them, meaning it can't hit you even if you keep meleeing it, melees do a shit ton of damage to the tank.
- Special infecteds can only spawn in limited numbers, so if you keep a spitter alive or a boomer, then just book it, they'll be playing catch up while you book it to the end, its not always the best idea but it can help if you're last alive.
- If you fail, try and try again, its difficult but you'll make it with enough practice, good luck guys and thanks for the funny video and giving me a chance to reminisce to when I tried this with my cousin. We went through the same pain.
Sorry for the paragraph, hope this helps if you end up trying again.
I actually did this alone with bots in The Passing campaign lol
Melee and deagle will one shot zombies with ease
If only this game had something like a... Prawn Suit...
Don't remind him😂
i was able to get this achievement solo on the passing campaign on my 3rd try, mainly because there are only 3 safe houses towards the final. so the campaign itself was pretty short, and since i did it solo. the last part where you had to fill up the generators with gas only needed 10 gas cans(instead of 16 on multiplayer), and some things i learned is every chapter in a campaign (expert) usually has a tank or a witch that will be the biggest obstacle to the safe house, and usually spawn in specific areas
and if i might give a tip to people who want to try this achievement, the passing in singleplayer would be your best choice imo
If you do multiplayer spam take a break and the horde won't spawn in until activated by pressing a post
I get happy whenever someone still makes content on Left 4 Dead, also I can't wait to try add ons for that game to play it in vr soon
I managed to get this achievement by playing on crash course. It was still a nightmare
Ok, why didn't they try Crash Course though? Its short as hell lmao
@@noahhamilton5974 the campaign is short yes, but the chapters are long to advance through
@@sakuamvsog fair
how
11:55 all yours guys laugh syncing up is cracking me up 🤣🤣
I got this with randoms on Hard Rain... We communicated well enough to get us through the whole thing.
Guess I need to get my friends together so we can suffer
3:49 👮♂️”where?!”
My tip, the actual easiest map for this achievement is the parish.
1st chapter is very short, the event of the 2nd chapter isnt that hard as long as you rush to the alarm and camp there until the horde ends.
3rd chapter only has that part with the car alarms you have to avoid
4th map has a holdout that shouldnt be too hard.
And the finale is just rushing, you can even avoid the tank.
Ive gotten so used to expert realism since i did it almost as soon as i got the game (yes it was miserable but we got good, sorta), and that its kinda funny seeing people doing these same difficulties for the first time just like what me and my friends did, haha
This achievment is a breeze. Just disable director and walk freely to the safezone. Very easy strat
Glad I found this channel lmao, vid is so cozy and really feels like hanging out gaming with the boys in discord 😂
From what I heard, and mainly my source being from WSG, is that Crash Course is a great campaign to get the achievement on, since while the levels are long, its only 2 levels, meaning its also the shortest if you know what your doing...
3:00 half life zombie
this achievement is insanely easy because any relatively experienced player knows that as long as you keep moving the special infected have almost no time to spawn. That being said you picked the mall, so i imagine the alarm crescendo wasn’t fun if you didn’t save a bike bomb or pipe bomb. lets watch an see
NGL I just stumbled onto this. I honestly love this. I wish I had friends that would play Left 4 Dead with me like this. But I am lonely :(
@@MazetheWolf-Dragon I wouldn't mind playing it if it was on Xbox for purchase/installation if possible, but it won't let me get it which sucks (especially since I have no disc drive and no game sharing)
Dude I can play with you PC version
hear me out, The Real Deal achivement solo with no bot addon
I did it on dead center, i never going to use valves survivor bots again
i did get this achievement in 2012. I did it on Dark Carnival, cause that campaign is shorter and the ending is easier to survive at the sniper tower as long as you take care of smokers and tanks.
I got it playing with random players at the time, but it took us a good 4 or 5 hours to complete it
I really like that this kind of vid about L4D is popping out in my suggestion..
I'd argue that getting a 4 vs 4 versus team and winning is harder, even with people intentionally trying to get it. Thats 8 people, including the host of the server, that could potentially have to get off, have internet problems, or be sent to the main menu for no reason.
Are you referring to a different achievement than the video is about? Versus isn't compatible with difficulty adjustment. Not unless you use custom mutations mods or whatever, at least
@ItsAsparageese If I recall correctly, you are supposed to win a versus or scavenge against a team of 4 with 4 of your own. What makes it harder is that the achievement says you have to do it with the same teams. So all 8 people have to stay there or else you won't get it. I could be wrong though.
@@superderfmen Oh yeah, that's Strength In Numbers. But in retrospect I think I originally misunderstood your first comment anyway lol, I thought you were discussing something relating to the achievement in the video but now I see that you were arguing that a different achievement could be called the hardest one lol. It's obvious now that I reread what you said. My bad
A new subscriber here loving the content men keep it up broo you're going far
We all had that one team mate who think he's good but kept walking pass our crossfire and blame us for friendly fire
I am genuinely curious as to what happened between the cut at 12:52, because I don't know what would do a single point of damage at that difficulty.
fun fact, at this difficulty the special spawn rate DOUBLES if survivors break pine of sight of even one of them
This was such a delight to watch please try again
The PAIN HOLY my friend and I tried this on the last stand so we would get both achievements. It Took us 4 days...
i thought you had like half a million subs when i first watched this, love the video!
I remember beating swamp fever Expert realism with bots it take me 5 hours with 180+ Restarts
I remember as a kid I would always attempt this with no hud on, did it several years later. It's a LOT of patience.
I remember cheesing this achievement back in the day, there was no way I was gonna do this legit
I got this with bots on Xbox 360. Pain and suffering.
i got this achievement back in 2009, the best advice I can give is to stay close, move together, hunker down for zombie waves. Don't forget to bash boomers before you kill them, you can also free a teammate from all special infected with a melee bash, always go for headshots, and deagle is your friend. Lastly, a headset is absolutely mandatory as directional sound is vital in this game. You can hear zombies coming up behind you and react with a bash before they can touch you.
Me and my friends did this on last stand campaign it was a pain 3 nights in a row and the comms are like playing a competitive game lmao and the relief after completing it, we basically got 3 achievements at once when we completed it
The fact getting the achivement sound simple make it even more harder
Next achievement: Complete all campaigns without dying with both expert and realism mode activated.
I remember doing this with a bunch of randoms.
The common problem we had was we always misook each other for a common infected, I told them that we should get a mod that changes the characters' appearances so we can differentiate ourselves from an infected. We tried again multiple times but we still sucked XD
We never finsihed it, but we became friends after that.
7:16 Bro took the full shot of that shotgun shell XD
The brainrot in this video reduced my life expectancy by 20 yrs. 10/10 would recommend
my favorite type of youtube content
"4 dudes experiencing cbt in l4d2"
Took me 3 separate sessions to finally get this achievement. I just needed to not only play with bots, because that is actually hell.
I may be late asf, but if you wanna try it again, the easiest campaign by far for this achievement is The Parish, 1st chapter is free rushing, 2nd bit harder to rush but with melee still easy, 3rd is hard only because of its length, 4th is the hardest but bc you gotta hold a spot but not for so long, and the last one is to run nonstop.
I got this achievement in 2014.... I don't remember getting it like, but I was hard in to L4D2 at the time. I also remember joining an unofficial server and getting about 5 achievements all at once.
Me and my friends got 3 achievement in dark carnival.
1.Expert - realism
2. Play the finale without going down the stage
3. Board gnome in the chopper
It's hella fun and frustrating that you have to redo the game multiple times just to complete these.
I got this achievement in 2018 by just enjoying the game, Expert Realism feels very satisfying to beat, other difficulties are a little bit too easy. Id say the hardest overall difficulty is doing this as a solo survivor no bots and no teammates.
The Real Deal is NOTHING compared to the Killing Spree achievement, you have to survive for like, 10 minutes on EVERY Survival map, which there are 43 OF, this one will take you absurdly longer than 1 super hard campaign
Its definitely harder I would say, If you aren’t well experienced in l4d it can be a time consuming process as you need to find actual good lobbies. Luckily Gold Miners exist and they’re a pretty good survival community whose servers you can usually stumble across
Playing Expert with strangers are much better. Then get mad at you and get serious in whole campaign, as I get this achievement early.
and now: "still something to prove"
Today i just win that achivement, it was swamp fever and because i dont have any friends to play with i completed alone
I remember I did mine solo on Blood Harvest because in finale there's a spot on the roof where infected cant reach you... well it's 5 chapters so 4 chapter is a struggle really so probably not the best way.
I did a duo with my brother and the AI and we almost got the cola delivered. It wasn’t too bad.
"The hardest achievement". 'The last frontier' sends its regards.
I'd argue 30 minutes on survival is much harder than this, especially with how much shotguns and the magnum trivializes the hardest aspect of realism (the commons)
"we have cook to do! We have to deliver cook right?"
best line of 2024
"we don't like having fun" same with my friends hahahaha
The environment is your best friend (And sometimes your worst enemy).Doors, cars, and basically everything that you do, the zombies have to do also except for some members of the special infected, they are dirty cheaters). Despite them being able to climb n such, you can insta kill common infected by being on the ledge of where they climb. Idk why but they give up if they see you camping the ledge.
I've got this achievement twice before. Once with friends in xbox live and once many years later on steam alone. Both times on the plantation because that felt the easiest.
I'd like to believe this is why the group broke up on xbox live.
I tought the hardest achievement was "The Big Ten": Survive for 10 minutes on anny officail map in Versus Survival
Hearing a person say noradrenaline and german stare confirms I am cooked
I never thought that people found this mode that difficult, I played on expert pretty much since the beginning, and after beating all the campaings the logical step was to add realism in the mix, but I guess most of the player base plays on normal (?)
Its still not realistic you can spawn in safe house. Imagine how much difficult the real zombie apocolypse would be.
My ass got carried by what Im sure was a trio queueing together. We just booked it the entire map and these guys had the aim of bots and awareness of the AI director. Blew my mind
Bro got that stalingrad fight
bro the real deal was easier than still something to prove i played alone while getting both
Me personally say that the hardest still is "Last Frontier" achievement (Survive The Last Stand in expert realism). We done bunch of retries at the finale, even with my pro L4D player. Thanks for him and other players, everyone just so focused to win that campaign we became more strategized and carefully planned what should we did. Tried every roles and weapon combination to pass through the waves of zombies. F*ck those Tanks at final wave! F*ck generator filling task! Deymm I still shaking after jumped into the ship back on that day lol
I wish I could play this game again with those fun and chaotic feeling. Truly my most favourite game of all times 💜
"We don't like having fun"
I managed to get it with bots on singleplayer, but in doing so, since I couldn't save my game and come back, when I needed a break, I would pause and keep the game playing in the background and my PC really hated me for it. I was NOT losing my progress though lol
I need to awaken the inner german and irish within me.
Me and friends couldn't get past the second chapter so I salute you
3:00 Me when the fentanyl makes me act up
bro at 2:30 laughs like "ImSuda"
I just watched your video and it inspired me to get this achievement, an hour later and I got it.
1 thing that stay true all the time in all L4d2's play: Make up a plan - Commit to the plan -> Chaos
If you ever try doing this again id recommend doing the last stand as you can go for “the last frontier” a 0.8% achievement and “the real deal” at the same time. Its what i did.
I like turtles
Playing on a fisheye lens mall security camera over here
You know what, I had a really good time with this.
I think ppl are over dramatic abt this achievement. Its not actually that difficult as they say. You just gotta have a good strat.
for sure! our problem is both that we wanted the video to actually be entertaining and so we fucked around quite a lot, and that alot of us just haven't played left 4 dead 2 in a while, inaneseven only had 11 hours while i haven't touched the game in a full year by that point, so we def coulda done with some practice on advanced and expert first instead of just jumping right in
It's difficult, you cant deny that.
If you have been playing the game for a while, of course it will be easy for you at this point
I got the achievement as well as the expert only one. Using the admin system addon in workshop. At first I hesitate to use it but after a while it was good.
Must revisit. MUST
Deadliest special infected besides tank and witch? Smoker. I believe it fully kills you in 5-6 seconds, incapping you in like 2 seconds.
I think you were the one who shot the Gas can with the Spas at 11:05
Everyone watching with "Still something to prove" Achievement: Interesting 🗿
3:00 bro is a menace to society 💀💀💀💀
The passing expert realism is easy even w bots (tanks and under the river tour are a lil tricky)
Pro Tip: Swamp Fever is the easiest campaign to get this achievement with friends, and solo.
there's a reason why axes and katanas exist
The knife is better, long range and high attack speed
tip
Bots are better than teammates
They heal you so basically 3 medkits following you
They're good at shooting smokers
They shove boomers
Only thing theyre bad at is tank fights which is decently easy to avoid if you have a chainsaw to keep the tanks agro and let coach wham on him with an autoshotgun(he's the only bot who always get that)
And commons at every side
They can only shoot at one direction
And all threats will come to you
So if your bots is far away from you they are safe
As you just get jumped by everything conceivable
Which is good if you manage to survive you get a healthy team to back you up if you get downed