Too bad they're way heavier than the stock brake system. Need to find a BBK setup where it's at most the same weight. Lighter would be better. CCB option too expensive at 8k.
As a bmw enthusiast, this is becoming one of my favorite channels on RUclips. I love all the detailed informations they provide and not glancing over some details. Remarkable! It would be cool if you guys did some episodes about some cs/gts specific parts, and how can we upgrade them on our regular m cars. One cool example is a M2 CS Racing specific front sway bar, which is direct bolton on a regular M2 car. And it’s even cheaper than all of the aftermarket solutions. Greetings from Germany
This is on my to do list in the next year for my rears. I second the vote for brake rebuild diy. Know a few other people also needing to do it. Already researched how but a video by my good people at FCP Euro is always helpful for the detail oriented and a trustful reference.
Man thank you for doing this! I just got my 034 Motorsport two-piece front rotors, stainless steel brake lines and hawk performance pads and my shop is going to put the RBF 600 fluid. You explained everything such in a great way and I'm not even a wrench 😅. Might track the soon!
We have all of them! ruclips.net/video/4sIfzGzNNMA/видео.htmlfeature=shared The others can be found over on the other FCP Euro DIY channel as well youtube.com/@fcpeuro?feature=shared
Real good info. PFC will be making a steel conversion for the 400/380mm soon. CCB rotors can be tracked well but need to be kept cool and it will take ducting to make them last and the pads will need to be replaced with Pagid RSC1 and are ~600 each end. The OE Textars will blister and disintegrate. I wish Ate still made the blue fluid and I know why. 😕
All f8x M cars should’ve come with the 2nh brake kit (6pot front 4 pot rear) from factory. The tiny blue calipers from factory look so small and wrong.
Loving these M234 videos. One thing I was hoping you’d touch on is when and how to use the brake bleed service function. Should it be used when doing a simple flush?
My F15 X5 35iX has the standard 332mm 1 piece plain front rotor but there's an available coated crossed drilled Zimmermann rotor and also Powerstop Z23 carbon ceramic brake pad which both appears attractive as a minor performance upgrade.
Superb content as I have a gold 2NH with steel discs on my F82. And my right rear brake line is seized as the u joint so I’m going to replace with Spiegler
there is also 2 variants of the blue calliper so be careful, there a 370/380mm variant like mentioned in the video and there is also a 340 variant what i have on my m240i. i believe the 340i came stock with the 340 variant as well.
If it's for track work you'd be better off going to something like an AP Racing 5000R caliper as this allows for better wheel size options (18"s) and they're easier to swap pads on than the BMW/Brembo 6 pots as you don't have to remove the caliper.
I had so god damn many issues with the brake on this car...did stoptech trophy kit/ABS flush and everything you can think of, the pedal feel was still shit. I heard the brake booster that came with F80/82 CCB cars would provide a better pedal feel?
so blue calipers is avalible in 4 colors and 2 dimentions. for 380mm disks and 345mm discks. 6 piston caliper is avalibel in silver gold and red color. 1 size. for steel and CCB rotor. problem of 6 piston sistem is in case of steel weight and in case od CCB duration.
Issue I have with the stock rotors and Ferrodo DS2500 pads is that they work perfectly on the Nürburgring but is very bad for first bite/cold on road use, the OEM pads is kinda good when cold but doesn't hold up on a track. Is there a way to increase the brake pressure on the pads by programming? I use wider than stock tires and the brakes is now the weal point.
The rotors fit just fine I'm running them on a 340 with F80 calipers u just need the rotor screw from the f80. You will need caliper adapters or eccentric caliper bushings to allow the F80 calipers to fit on the F30 knuckle if your going to use 380mm rotors.
They fit the E46 M3 brilliantly!👌 Front & rear & look fantastic…. I’ve had a kit designed for this to happen, anyone interested they drop me a message. I put the larger 400/380mm on my M4CS & M4 comp cab, 6/4 piston looks fantastic 👌 The standard brakes off the above are what I fitted to my E46 M3’s.
CHANGE YOUR BRAKE FLUID!! On vehicles where I’ve regularly changed brake fluid, I’ve never had a line/caliper/MC go bad! Type 200 fluid is fine on my s2000 track car, if you’re not a pro w2w racer and think you need rbf600/etc you have another problem those expensive fluids are bandaids.
Don’t use heat on the flare nut on the brake line terrible advice. All you have to do is pry out the mount clip/ holder ( cheap to replace). This means you can unwind the hose from the pipe so the flare nut does not need to rotate.
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F87 M2c brakes ftw
Drop new video bro
Wheres981 where that m2 @? Copart
Too bad they're way heavier than the stock brake system. Need to find a BBK setup where it's at most the same weight. Lighter would be better. CCB option too expensive at 8k.
As a bmw enthusiast, this is becoming one of my favorite channels on RUclips. I love all the detailed informations they provide and not glancing over some details. Remarkable!
It would be cool if you guys did some episodes about some cs/gts specific parts, and how can we upgrade them on our regular m cars. One cool example is a M2 CS Racing specific front sway bar, which is direct bolton on a regular M2 car. And it’s even cheaper than all of the aftermarket solutions. Greetings from Germany
We need a (blue) caliper rebuild diy. No information online on torque specs on the caliper pinch bolts, bridge seals, and etc…
This is on my to do list in the next year for my rears. I second the vote for brake rebuild diy. Know a few other people also needing to do it. Already researched how but a video by my good people at FCP Euro is always helpful for the detail oriented and a trustful reference.
Yes please. Already ordered the parts of course from FCp
Damn Gareth you been workin out or something? From the F30 suspension video to this one you've become a new man! lol.
Great video as usual! Haven’t watched FCP videos in a while and noticed you’ve buffed up! 💪🏼 Congrats on that and on another awesome video.
Glad to have you back Bob!
Great video. Please keep the F8X / S55 content coming. Can you do a video about bleeding the system using ISTA+?
Man thank you for doing this! I just got my 034 Motorsport two-piece front rotors, stainless steel brake lines and hawk performance pads and my shop is going to put the RBF 600 fluid. You explained everything such in a great way and I'm not even a wrench 😅. Might track the soon!
Just use Castrol SRF. Way better, way higher wet and dry boiling points. Lasts way longer too. Motul is meh
Thanks for Videos like this. Id love to see a video like that for the N20 N55 and b48 aswell.
Much love from Germany to you guys!!
We have all of them! ruclips.net/video/4sIfzGzNNMA/видео.htmlfeature=shared The others can be found over on the other FCP Euro DIY channel as well youtube.com/@fcpeuro?feature=shared
Master Mechanic 💯💯💯💯
Great video!
Great video! Wish you covered the weight differences of all 3 systems.
Gareth is a god
Real good info. PFC will be making a steel conversion for the 400/380mm soon. CCB rotors can be tracked well but need to be kept cool and it will take ducting to make them last and the pads will need to be replaced with Pagid RSC1 and are ~600 each end. The OE Textars will blister and disintegrate. I wish Ate still made the blue fluid and I know why. 😕
Ccb gang unite ! 👊🏼
Thanks Gareth! looking forward to learning more
Very knowledgable! Great video!
Ceramic brakes were optional on the M2 CS, steel was standard.
Would love a video on an E9x retrofit with these parts!
I was wondering the same thing!
E9X M3 brakes are perfectly sufficient, you just need pads with more bite.
@@clonetrooper576 Definitely, but I love the OEM+ look that the F8x rotors provide
Good watch that, thanks for sharing 👍
All f8x M cars should’ve come with the 2nh brake kit (6pot front 4 pot rear) from factory. The tiny blue calipers from factory look so small and wrong.
Thanks for the video, very informative!
Loving these M234 videos. One thing I was hoping you’d touch on is when and how to use the brake bleed service function. Should it be used when doing a simple flush?
My F15 X5 35iX has the standard 332mm 1 piece plain front rotor but there's an available coated crossed drilled Zimmermann rotor and also Powerstop Z23 carbon ceramic brake pad which both appears attractive as a minor performance upgrade.
Superb content as I have a gold 2NH with steel discs on my F82. And my right rear brake line is seized as the u joint so I’m going to replace with Spiegler
I don’t believe any F87 M2 competitions that came with anything but the 400mm rotors in the USA. Only the OG M2 had the blue brakes.
Correct, the 4 pot brakes weren’t an option on the M2C/CS in North America, the 6 pistons were standard.
there is also 2 variants of the blue calliper so be careful, there a 370/380mm variant like mentioned in the video and there is also a 340 variant what i have on my m240i. i believe the 340i came stock with the 340 variant as well.
I need to get that friction ring. Ive been wondering what that freaking sound has been over small bumps. Gonna try it out.
I'm just trying to find the brake package for my wimpy 2013 bmw 320i with sport package.
Does the blue and gold callipers use the same brake lines?
Can brake disks be resurfaced?
Is Gareth our modern day Mike Miller? If ya know what I'm talking about.
What about red stuff?
So we could upgrade the weak blue calipers to the triple piston carbon ceramic calipers? What pads would that use?
If it's for track work you'd be better off going to something like an AP Racing 5000R caliper as this allows for better wheel size options (18"s) and they're easier to swap pads on than the BMW/Brembo 6 pots as you don't have to remove the caliper.
@@alexnugent thank you. Love the AP racing but the price….? Not worth the price IMO
Gareth Random question, were you the guy who had an E92 M3 in manual back in the day and created some videos with it?
Sure was 😬
@@fcpeuro-media haha nice! I remember watching your videos thinking how awesome your M3 was until I eventually got mine. Very cool 😎
I've heard bleed nipples seizing/snapping is another common issues on these...
Question: Can I do a break update on my 2020 x3 m40i by repro fitting some M discs?
I had so god damn many issues with the brake on this car...did stoptech trophy kit/ABS flush and everything you can think of, the pedal feel was still shit. I heard the brake booster that came with F80/82 CCB cars would provide a better pedal feel?
so blue calipers is avalible in 4 colors and 2 dimentions. for 380mm disks and 345mm discks. 6 piston caliper is avalibel in silver gold and red color. 1 size. for steel and CCB rotor. problem of 6 piston sistem is in case of steel weight and in case od CCB duration.
Can any of these be fitted to an A90 Supra?
Issue I have with the stock rotors and Ferrodo DS2500 pads is that they work perfectly on the Nürburgring but is very bad for first bite/cold on road use, the OEM pads is kinda good when cold but doesn't hold up on a track. Is there a way to increase the brake pressure on the pads by programming? I use wider than stock tires and the brakes is now the weal point.
Will the rotors fit a f30? Any modifications needed?
No even BMW offered the M3 / M4 calipers with 370mm discs as an option for the f30
The rotors fit just fine I'm running them on a 340 with F80 calipers u just need the rotor screw from the f80. You will need caliper adapters or eccentric caliper bushings to allow the F80 calipers to fit on the F30 knuckle if your going to use 380mm rotors.
They fit the E46 M3 brilliantly!👌
Front & rear & look fantastic…. I’ve had a kit designed for this to happen, anyone interested they drop me a message.
I put the larger 400/380mm on my M4CS & M4 comp cab, 6/4 piston looks fantastic 👌
The standard brakes off the above are what I fitted to my E46 M3’s.
CHANGE YOUR BRAKE FLUID!! On vehicles where I’ve regularly changed brake fluid, I’ve never had a line/caliper/MC go bad!
Type 200 fluid is fine on my s2000 track car, if you’re not a pro w2w racer and think you need rbf600/etc you have another problem those expensive fluids are bandaids.
Looking at that engine bay. I do not want to own a M car newer than 2010. engine bays are toooooo busy.
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Don’t use heat on the flare nut on the brake line terrible advice. All you have to do is pry out the mount clip/ holder ( cheap to replace). This means you can unwind the hose from the pipe so the flare nut does not need to rotate.
from 981😂
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