Bach Cantata BWV 4 Christ lag in Todesbanden - Gardiner/Monteverdi Choir/ English Baroque Soloists

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  • Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024

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  • @NewAge4Classical820
    @NewAge4Classical820 Год назад +17

    00:30 1. Sinfonia [Symphony]
    01:49 2. Christ lag in Todesbanden [Christ Lay in Death Bonds] (Chorus)
    05:54 3. Den Tod niemand zwingen kunnt [No one can force death] (Chorus: S, A)
    11:17 4. Jesus Christus, Gottes Sohn [Jesus Christ, Son of God] (Aria: T)
    13:04 5. Es war ein wunderlicher Krieg [It was a wondrous war] (Chorus)
    15:00 6. Hier ist das rechte Osterlamm [Here is the right Easter lamb] (Aria: B)
    19:21 7. So feiern wir das hohe Fest [This is how we celebrate the high feast] (Duet: S, T)
    21:00 8. Wir essen und leben wohl [We eat and farewell] (Chorus)

  • @dancertm
    @dancertm 2 года назад +73

    One reason I love Gardiner's handling of Bach is that he brings out Bach's text coloring, and accentuates Bach's contrapuntal attach by paying close attention to the stresses contained within the German language itself. He has the innate ability to put vocal weight on a line of music not from a purely music idea, but giving total commitment to language which, after all, is what Bach (a committed Lutheran) would do.

    • @joergartmann
      @joergartmann 11 месяцев назад +6

      Thank you for summarizing so well why I admire and respect Gardiner. Let me add that Gardiner provides the "Full-HD" resolution of Bach's work. There is this incredible transparency and you hear every "pixel" of the music. Greetings from Germany!

    • @josephjacob8465
      @josephjacob8465 8 месяцев назад

      Beautiful comment!!
      Gardiner and Bach's music are a match made in Heaven!!

    • @jackbchfan
      @jackbchfan 3 месяца назад

      However, one of the great mysteries is how a person who can render such profound interpretations can be pretty unpleasant in real life, accusations of physical violence in the workplace, deeply angry and with.a strange reverence for hierarchy and cosying up to the establishment. How blessed he has been to be able to work in this space and craft these unbelievable works of art and yet he has so frequently brought violence and aggression into these spaces.

    • @dancertm
      @dancertm 3 месяца назад

      @@jackbchfan So true, and unmistakably human.

    • @carlofarina1070
      @carlofarina1070 2 дня назад

      ​@@dancertmt

  • @RicardoMora-n1u
    @RicardoMora-n1u 6 месяцев назад +8

    Glory to God, for this beautiful and heavenly music, bless is the memory of our Master Bach.

  • @JonAhlquist
    @JonAhlquist 2 года назад +48

    This is one of Bach's first cantatas, probably written for Easter 1707 when he was barely 22 years old.
    00:30 Sinfonia, Orchestra
    01:48 Versus 1, Chorus, Christ lag in Todes Banden (Christ lay in the bonds of death)
    05:50 Versus 2, Soprano-Alto Duet, Den Tod niemand zwingen kunnt (No one could overcome death)
    11:16 Versus 3, Tenor aria, Jesus Christus, Gottes Sohn (Jesus Christ, the Son of God)
    13:04 Versus 4, Chorus, Es war ein wunderlicher Krieg (It was a wondrous battle)
    14:58 Versus 5, Bass aria, Hier ist das rechte Osterlamm (Here is the true Easter lamb)
    19:20 Versus 6, Soprano-Tenor Duet, So feiern wir das hohe Fest (Thus we celebrate the high feast)
    20:56 Versus 7, Chorus, Wir essen und leben wohl (We eat and flourish)
    Discussion: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christ_lag_in_Todes_Banden%2C_BWV_4

    • @magusl9628
      @magusl9628 2 года назад +2

      Thank you!!!

    • @crisduchatelle
      @crisduchatelle Год назад +1

      Thanks

    • @IrizarryBrandon
      @IrizarryBrandon Год назад +1

      Thanks, this is great

    • @CatatonicImperfect
      @CatatonicImperfect 10 месяцев назад +3

      @vsevsad9376 👋 If you paste this table with the time codes in the video description, RUclips will automatically create chapters from it.

  • @daviddoherty3349
    @daviddoherty3349 3 года назад +39

    Heard this for the first time today and was completely bowled over.. JS Bach, the gift that keeps on giving

  • @raffitorossian6994
    @raffitorossian6994 Год назад +26

    Bach is the legend of all time. Thanks for uploading.

  • @franpoule
    @franpoule 2 года назад +19

    What an amazing rendition! The Monteverdi choir is so fabulous, and Sir Gardiner is such a genius!

  • @maxtenenbaum7425
    @maxtenenbaum7425 Год назад +4

    Bach makes me feel more close to happiness. Thanks

  • @arsenekashindi7441
    @arsenekashindi7441 10 месяцев назад +4

    Depuis la RD Congo, j'aime beaucoup votre façon de faire!
    Je suis un musicien et je vous respecte !
    Félicitations
    Bravo

  • @AR-LINY
    @AR-LINY 7 месяцев назад +2

    It's Lent - had a rough few days here - I stumbled across this video today and it brought me comfort. I shall bookmark it for the future.

  • @re2paul
    @re2paul 3 года назад +30

    This displays even more dramatic development than the earlier recording on RUclips. Deeply moving; glorious!

  • @keithcalder521
    @keithcalder521 2 года назад +10

    Gardiner gets underneath the skin of this exceptional piece, drawing the listener into the power and meaning of the text. The music goes far beyond simply accompanying the words, it embodies them. As Gardiner rightly says, Bach is the musical gold standard. I cannot comprehend how it is possible for someone in his early 20's to compose such a magnificent, complex piece of work. Thanks to JEG, MC &. EBS for an excellent and memorable performance.

  • @JohnMcCulloch75
    @JohnMcCulloch75 2 года назад +39

    Gardiner's slow tempo on the Den Tod part is simply exquisite. What a genius.

    • @paulsmith5752
      @paulsmith5752 2 года назад

      I do prefer the NBV's version though.

    • @aksuli1
      @aksuli1 Год назад +2

      I wonder if the continuo played out of tune on purpose.

    • @cecilchamululu5706
      @cecilchamululu5706 11 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@aksuli1ĺ❤

    • @moonbeamchaos
      @moonbeamchaos 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@aksuli1I thought I was imagining it!

  • @ScottHighlands
    @ScottHighlands Год назад +3

    I’d like to thank you all from the bottom of my heart for this treasure trove.

  • @kobinaanso5507
    @kobinaanso5507 2 года назад +6

    This performance is clean! The "Den Tod" is just exquisite. This should be one of the best performances ever.

  • @kumbeetjirimuje4193
    @kumbeetjirimuje4193 Год назад +2

    I've seen this a couple of times and still applaud every time. You hear something new every time.

  • @JohannesPorphyrius
    @JohannesPorphyrius 10 месяцев назад +10

    Moderator sounds like commeting a football game. "now gardner is back on the field. will he score this time even more..... ohh, elliot gardiner!"

    • @OdedViolin
      @OdedViolin 4 месяца назад

      Exactly my thoughts!

  • @pascalecahuzac2436
    @pascalecahuzac2436 2 года назад +2

    Extraordinaire « Den Tod » la puissance dramatique est à son apogée avec la retenue des paroles chantées et la lenteur du tempo .. No Words. Magnifique suspension du temps .

  • @tilmanbenatzky3480
    @tilmanbenatzky3480 Год назад +3

    Always thrilled how Gardinier and his fantastic musicians bring light to J. S. Bach. Transparent layering and rhythm finally contradict the depressively clerical swamp of German interpretations and traditions of German performers of the past 40 years.
    My God what clarity!
    I assume Bach is grinning in his grave. :)

  • @martintuohy1844
    @martintuohy1844 3 года назад +7

    Beautiful beautiful music....and a wonderful choir....fantastic....I so enjoyed this clip. I saw this on the BBCProms a few days ago and then found it on YT...LOVE it !

  • @ssmith9745
    @ssmith9745 2 года назад +7

    4:40 to 5:40 -- Maybe the best minute of music Bach ever wrote!

    • @hermannhunzinger8881
      @hermannhunzinger8881 25 дней назад

      könnte sein und er hat viele gute minuten geschrieben.

    • @ssmith9745
      @ssmith9745 24 дня назад

      @@hermannhunzinger8881 Ja, viele davon! ...Natürlich, wären es bei jeder anderen Aufführung seine besten ZWEI minuten gewesen!

  • @vaughangarrick
    @vaughangarrick 2 года назад +3

    I love the early cantatas of Bach. They're so inventive and full of youthful vigour

  • @davidmoore1537
    @davidmoore1537 2 года назад +3

    Absolutely excellent performance!

  • @barbosa890
    @barbosa890 2 года назад +4

    Pela milésima vez. Quase todos os dias. Eu estou aqui ouvindo essa celestial composição.

  • @farzinshakibanejad1232
    @farzinshakibanejad1232 2 года назад +3

    An outstanding performance. In every respect ! thank you.

  • @maryumsa
    @maryumsa Год назад +2

    ¡Simplemente hermoso!
    GRACIAS

  • @patriciaalvarez8437
    @patriciaalvarez8437 Год назад +1

    Adoro a Gardiner... lo he seguido siempre, y se ve guapo todavía... y a propósito de la Cantata 4.... no había escuchado unos aleluya tan rápidos.... magnífico.

  • @wolfgangjannsen
    @wolfgangjannsen 11 месяцев назад

    Einfach wunderbar. Vielen lieben Dank. Gesegnet eure wunderschöne Darbietung, und Johann Sebastian Bach würde sich ganz sicher darüber freuen. Ehre sei Gott.

  • @alejandromosquerasouto6614
    @alejandromosquerasouto6614 2 года назад +1

    Amo a Bach y adoro a Gardiner. La belleza suprema de la cantata 4

  • @joshuaharper372
    @joshuaharper372 11 месяцев назад +3

    Good grief RUclips, the midroll ads really ruin the performance, particularly when they interrupt a movement! I wish we didn't have to use RUclips!! Ads have totally ruined the platform.

    • @vsevsad9376
      @vsevsad9376  11 месяцев назад +3

      Use adblockers, I don" t get to see any ads at all with my AdBlock

  • @antoniobamoravi2280
    @antoniobamoravi2280 3 года назад +6

    Le génie à l'état pur, qui peut faire mieux ? Händel, Rameau ou Vivaldi ? mais étant Français j'adore tellement la musique bouleversante et unique de Rameau et de Couperin, que je m'interroge ?
    J'adore aussi l’allégresse inégalable de Vivaldi, l’âme italienne dans sa plus belle expression, une pure merveille, un génie absolu comme Scarlatti et Pergolese, mais JS mon ami, reste le maitre absolu avec Rameau , et que dire de Purcell, le génie anglais qui a finalement tout engendré, je pense que Allemand, italien, Français et anglais, nous avons tous un monde à
    reconstruire comme avant, car nous sommes de la même graine et le temps presse !!!

    • @patrickbailet8574
      @patrickbailet8574 Год назад

      Beau commentaire. J'approuve.
      À reconstruire ou à construire ? Et peut-être pas comme avant. Il faut quelque chose de radicalement nouveau, qui ne contredit pas l'ancien, mais l'accomplit :
      " Le ciel n'annule pas la terre, il l'accomplit."
      Sri Aurobindo, Savitri

    • @tellingitlikeitis9765
      @tellingitlikeitis9765 Год назад

      ... le temps est écoulé...

  • @danielpincus221
    @danielpincus221 Год назад +4

    I would wish for a performance of this magnificent work somewhere in Ukraine as soon as possible.

  • @capezyo
    @capezyo 2 года назад +1

    Fantastic

  • @danielpincus221
    @danielpincus221 Год назад +2

    "Compared to Bach we all suck." - Pat Metheny

  • @paulinajerez2338
    @paulinajerez2338 2 года назад +3

    I know we are dealing with Master Gardiner BUT I still dare to question such a big choir and orchestra. It feel quite extemporaneous. I had the chance of doing this cantata with Thomaskantor herr Hans-Joachim Rotzsch and we were a choir of 16. What herr Rotzsch did exctly as sir Gardiner were the lines marked in the scores as "duets" and "solos" with the whole string, i.e., no soloists in the cantata, all the choir as a team.

    • @davidowen1408
      @davidowen1408 Год назад +3

      Please remember, this performance took place in the Royal Albert Hall before an audience of 4000. Bach himself surely never performed in a venue of that size. For this performance I suspect Sir John has augmented the ensemble.

    • @CatatonicImperfect
      @CatatonicImperfect 7 месяцев назад +2

      This originalist argument is really so dull. Imagine if there was only One Right Way to play a piece. Why even continue to perform? Where's the fun in that? How about we judge each performance on its own merits. I enjoyed this performance very much, and I enjoy other performances equally.

  • @capezyo
    @capezyo 2 года назад +4

    Sir Gardiner is top 10

  • @hermannhunzinger8881
    @hermannhunzinger8881 25 дней назад

    wahnsinnig gut

  • @nicholasrowe6031
    @nicholasrowe6031 2 года назад

    Beautiful. That is all.

  • @elletuppen4844
    @elletuppen4844 Год назад

    Thank you for this.
    Please could you upload Handels Dixit Dominus from the same concert. BBC seems to have removed it.
    As splendid a performance.

  • @alainhaumesser4200
    @alainhaumesser4200 Год назад

    Superbe !

  • @ilirllukaci5345
    @ilirllukaci5345 11 месяцев назад

    Thanks again.

  • @ilirllukaci5345
    @ilirllukaci5345 Год назад

    Thanks.

  • @samfischer-l6p
    @samfischer-l6p Год назад

    Amazing

  • @BrianAnu
    @BrianAnu Год назад

    Happy Easter!

  • @Wojtek341
    @Wojtek341 Год назад

    BWV-4 polish text:
    Chrystus leżał w mocy śmierci
    za nasze grzechy wydany,
    Ten też zaś mocny,
    wstał zmartwych,
    i przyniosł nam żywot wieczny,
    ztąd się wszyseh weselmy,
    Boga chwaląc wdzięczni bądźmy,
    śpiewając Hallelujah, Hallelujah!
    Christ lag in Todesbanden
    Für unsre Sünd gegeben,
    Er ist wieder erstanden
    Und hat uns bracht das Leben;
    Des wir sollen fröhlich sein,
    Gott loben und ihm dankbar sein
    Und singen halleluja,
    Halleluja!

  • @dipakchowdhury31
    @dipakchowdhury31 9 месяцев назад

    I like how Martin Luther’s hymn runs through the entire piece like a thread.

  • @giovannicalorini7729
    @giovannicalorini7729 Год назад

    Sublime🧡

  • @barney6888
    @barney6888 29 дней назад

    Some very tidy playing, indeed.

  • @meredydddavies957
    @meredydddavies957 2 года назад +1

    What a fabulous performance - congratulations to all involved!
    Bach wrote this, it's reckoned, when he was aged about 22. If he had got run over by a bus the next day and written nothing else, he would surely still be accounted a god.
    I'm not entirely sure about Mr Gardiner's pink sleeve linings - who does he think he is, Wagner? Or maybe there are practical considerations, like at 12:34 when he wipes his nose.

  • @jcdefeats
    @jcdefeats Год назад

    Wow

  • @StinkinGoodAle3241
    @StinkinGoodAle3241 4 дня назад

    Where are the trombones?

  • @OGrauMusic
    @OGrauMusic 3 года назад +7

    There are parts that would be better with soloists and not chorus sections (common sense) fortunately the choir is good, good quality, and the orchestra is great, but the soloists are missed.

    • @christianwagenseil9621
      @christianwagenseil9621 2 года назад +2

      I agree. Check out the album 'ricercar' by Christoph Poppen with members of the Hilliard Ensemble and the Munich Chamber Orchestra. That's a great recording of the Cantata with a much more slim arrangement, including soloists.

    • @dzospir6859
      @dzospir6859 2 года назад +2

      There is this older performance where only soloists are singing: ruclips.net/video/C_PinoZvY5Q/видео.html. Also very much Bach to me.

    • @OGrauMusic
      @OGrauMusic 2 года назад +1

      ​@@dzospir6859 I love this version (a favorite live version) that you recommend, but some choral parts would be fine in some moments and not only soloists (it is the opposite case of Gardiner) A combination of choir and soloists would be ideal (more varied and interesting)

    • @filipeipad5172
      @filipeipad5172 2 года назад

      I very much agree.

  • @barbosa890
    @barbosa890 Год назад

    PLEASE REPOST GARDNER'S VERSION DIXIT DOMINUS BBC PROMOS 2021!!

    • @vsevsad9376
      @vsevsad9376  Год назад

      Hi, it was on some other channel now seemingly deleted 😬

    • @barbosa890
      @barbosa890 Год назад

      Cant you post?

    • @vsevsad9376
      @vsevsad9376  Год назад

      I don't have it

    • @barbosa890
      @barbosa890 Год назад

      @@vsevsad9376 😭😭😭

  • @withmusic.atelier
    @withmusic.atelier 2 года назад

    Thank you for Subscribe!!

  • @barbosa890
    @barbosa890 Год назад +1

    20:56

  • @crisduchatelle
    @crisduchatelle Год назад

    ,6:08love this part

  • @markvainrot8495
    @markvainrot8495 2 года назад +1

    Немного пафосно , но иначе никак, все же Альбертхолл , все превосходно , хор ,оркестр ну и Сэр конечно!!!

  • @antonellacarletto1110
    @antonellacarletto1110 Год назад

    quando dici la perfezione............

  • @SallyEdwards-t8b
    @SallyEdwards-t8b 23 дня назад

    Kub Burgs

  • @daniellopes8253
    @daniellopes8253 Год назад

    04:30 oi

  • @Iczerman-hl2zt
    @Iczerman-hl2zt Год назад

    Being a troll here.
    In my opinion..
    @ 4:37- 5:03 "Und Singen Alleuia"...ABSOLUTELY MAGICAL.
    @ 5:04-5:40...Much too fast..not joyous as he said in his intro video..The singers sounded frantic and towards the end they sounded like they were shouting.

  • @jamesvanderhoorn1117
    @jamesvanderhoorn1117 Год назад +1

    Does Gardiner know any German? I'm sure he does, but it's not apparent from his interpretation of this piece.

  • @jeffwyss
    @jeffwyss 6 месяцев назад

    Too many "artificial" details.

  • @Muzikay
    @Muzikay 2 года назад +5

    I usually love what Gardiner does, but this performance has "I'm so bored of Bach I no longer know what to do with him" written all over it. Bach's music is pretty good the way it is, really. If you feel it needs "enhancement", maestro, maybe you should look for something else to perform.

    • @alexreik424
      @alexreik424 2 года назад +5

      muzikay: sadly, yours has the uneducated and impertinent commentary written all over it. Maybe you should look at some lesser JHS maestro's performance...................

    • @youtuuba
      @youtuuba 2 года назад +5

      Muzikay, you might want to consider the venue. This ensemble and director most often performs and records in acoustical spaces that are more appropriate to the music, not vast halls like Royal Albert. And they usually perform without enhancements, while here they appear to have lots of microphones on them, I assume because a small group like that could not fill the space without the enhancement. These changes certainly necessitate things such as chorus instead of soloists, and a more pointed and separated style lest it get too muddy. And the audience is probably less familiar with the music, so making it a bit more dramatic or exaggerated was probably a good move. There is not much cause to assume that Elliott is simply 'bored with Bach'......

    • @johngtrotman
      @johngtrotman 2 года назад +2

      Hmmm. There is no accounting for taste. In my opinion this is a tremendous and sensitively attuned response to Bach’s score and Bach’s meaning. And ‘bored of Bach’? On the contrary, Gardiner relishes him!

    • @roelkelder1967
      @roelkelder1967 Год назад +1

      I agree. It's not Bach he's performing. It's more like he's dealing with Helgoland of Bruckner or something else from that period. Technically it's outstanding what they are doing. But it's not performing Bach, imho.

  • @TheSummoner
    @TheSummoner Год назад

    5:04 FASTER! *FASTER!!!*

  • @teresaolcinadominguez9899
    @teresaolcinadominguez9899 2 года назад

    I77k
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  • @secondme209
    @secondme209 2 года назад +5

    Disturbing and unnatural choices of tempo in my opinion ...

  • @FighterFred
    @FighterFred Год назад

    That was painful. It's supposed to be a somber piece, not a pop concert. Both tempo and balance are very bad. There are much better interpretations on YT.