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LOVE AND HATE about the 2019 RAM Powerwagon! Must see this!
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There is no need to hit the lock button on the key to remote start, all that’s is needed to do is hit the remote start button twice it will automatically lock then start and run for 15 minutes once you have done this. This is the case on all FCA vehicles with keyless access and remote start as long as it is OEM Installed.
In my humble opinion, Most people buying this truck don't buy it for trailering. This is an off road beast!
Oh, I'd use it for trailering, too. Pull a big camper out somewhere, then go offroading nearby for amusement, and return to the camper to relax until the next offroad run!
I love my 18 power wagon, pulled a few things but no trailers yet.
I agree. Most of us enthusiasts are likely towing our side-by-sides/4-wheelers over a large travel trailer, but it can tow a decent sized one.
I have a 2018 power wagon. Installed some Firestone ride rite airbags. I tow a 36 ft 14000 pound fifth wheel RV. Also my truck has ram boxes.tows good.
Yeah the 3500 is for towing, Chevy is using turbo chargers on their truck's=break and wearing like never before seen at those Chevy max towing numbers you'll be at side of the road while 6.4 Hemi passes you buy safely. Auto mechanic's 101 tells you turbo anything requires constant maintenance even if the manufacturer lies! Who here, design, would buy a truck based on people who didn't ever drive a truck( GMC voted community baseboard party) Then allow them to change the engine, frame, and replace reliability gone to wind for towing numbers. That RAM 2500 Power Wagon will tow 30k no problem. What idiot would trust GMC slapping that label on a machine we all know pull's 8k safely. Every truck hell even 4 door Honda can tow 30k No brainer. How long can it tow it, is the key question. I give it 140 miles before it blows the header gasket or piston rod. Same goes for any 2019 Chevy product! Built by people who never drive a truck! Good luck GMC with that strike! Getting that 2019 piston rod for Sierra pickup may take 5 years or less they say! Turbo that!
I have a 2017 Power Wagon and have towed 10,000 lbs. to 15,000 lbs. regularly with a 12' dump trailer. The 6.4 liter with the 6 speed trans. and the 4.10 gear ratio is a beast. I have 70,000 miles on mine.
How’s the power wagon holding up? I’ve been a Ford man all my life but the PW looks so damn good
If you want to watch a review of a PW from someone that does not understand its purpose.. Watch this.
Purchased a 2020 Power Wagon this past week.. BIG step UP from my 2007 Ram 4x4 5.7L, 3.92 gears. 260K miles on it. It has Been a Great truck.
I do not care too much about gas milage. My 2007 Ram gets 14 5 mpg and my 2011 Jeep 4 door also get 14.5 mpg.
Love my power wagon. I have a 2018 installed some Firestone ride rite air bags with Daystar cradles. I tow a 36 ft RV 14000 pounds. Tows good just need to get an auxiliary tank for longer range.
With 9700 towing capacity, very smart. If something bad happens, it's your fault no matter what.
Brilliant 👏 👏 👏
The reason the tow and cargo is low and everyone knows why is because the off road suspension. This truck was designed for major off road not towing. If you want the towing and payload then get the 2500 Laramie
thats one way it is easier just to get airbags
Since the truck still has the same engine, transmission and axles as any other 3/4 ton gasoline powered Ram, the payload limiting factors are the tires and springs. Add airbags in the rear with pivoting lower mount and you can have the best of both worlds.
You don’t need to hit lock first. Just double click the start button
Lots of people complain about it's payload and towing when its clearly stated it's an off-roader built from the factory just like the Raptor and ZR1/ Bison which all have reduced payload and towing capacities not like their lesser more normal counterparts. So here's the thing, get a Power Wagon and put airbags ok it if you tow or why not be more civilized and actually invest the money instead on a properly equipped 2500 non PW RAM pickup.
Btw nice rig.
Thuren suspension makes alot of suspension upgrades for these trucks. I'd just add air bags, new coils, rear track bar and the pay load will go up. There's alot of threads about this on the PW forums. Sure it sacrifices some of the off road capabilities. But a small price to pay for a truck with lockers and a winch from the factory.
I have almost the same truck minus the ram box and the step. I put 37 ‘s on it and am getting 13 to 15 mpg after the tune. It is not my daily driver but I love my Ram power wagon very capable off road. Can’t wait until they make aftermarket parts for the 2019 power wagon.
all u gotta do is hit the the button on the remote that says 2x. to remote start it. read the manual
Frog Dog The truck locks automatically when using the remote starter. At least that’s how it is on my ‘15 Ram Rebel.
@@Mike14G That's how it is with all FCA vehicles.
My 2020 Jeep GC you just hit start button twice. Try it.
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-You dont have to hit the lock button to remote start
-Saying this should tow more than 10k pounds is also saying why the Raptor only tows 7000 when the F150 next to it can tow 12750.
-11.5 MPG city is very comparable to most 2500 gassers.
-I agree on the mirrors and have done so for a decade. It's time for power telescopic mirrors.
Pretty spot on elsewhere!
EXCELLENT review of your driving experience with the power wagon!
Totally agree with your comments, especially on the following:
1- Tire size
2-Better traction extension on side steps
3-Sliding side mirors
4-Ram box - Extra storage. Frees up cab space!
Most likely bigger tires & sliding mirors will come soon.
Np surprise on gas mileage! It's too be expected with the 6.4 hemi engine.
The power wagon was always my DREAM TRUCK!
Ordering a 2020 power wagon as soon as it becomes available in CANADA.
Will most likely be my last truck purchase!
Spot on great overall perspective and review. I’m not trying to pick on the truck, as it’s absolutely gorgeous... but as you pointed out, unfortunately, like most truck buyers, its measly 1126 lb payload capacity makes it mostly useless for my needs. But there’s a small percentage of buyers that don’t care about that at all. Anyway, great video, thanks!
If You’re not Overlanding than why are U looking at this truck? This a 4X4 off road Truck… If U want a tower or a Hauler U buy a 2500 Laramie with a 6.7L Cummins Diesel, This Truck has a awesome suspension set up that is great for overland use and trails… It’s like trying to use a screwdriver as a wrench…JS🤷🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
I love my 2015 AEV Prospector Power Wagon with 37's. I tow my 25" 7,400 dry 2006 Vortex toy hauler off road in soft beach and dune sand to ride quads in the dunes. It tows very well in low traction surfaces with lockers front and rear. Tires, Tires,Tires! are very important for tow ratings. Off road tires are made soft for dirt etc... 3 wall vs 10 ply I have watched two people towing 5th wheels with air bags in a power wagon. Torque is multiplied by gears. 4:10 is a lower ratio than many Diesel trucks.
Just a point to note: I agree, wish it had a greater payload. But 1500 lbs **is** 3/4 ton. 2500 is 1 1/4 tons. It's the only reason I didn't get a Power Wagon, I wanted greater capacity. But a 2500 Laramie with Hemi has around 3,000 lb capacity, which makes it 1 1/2 tons. :)
Dat Guy Same here. My 2500 Laramie has a capacity of 3229.
I'd rather have the additional payload and I do with my f250. Mine has the 10,000lb GVWR rating. So my payload on my truck is 3,379lbs.
@@thejuiceisloose8703 that's nice, some people prefer the off-road capabilities.
@@okigojuryu Absolutely...People don't get it, it is an OFF ROAD biased truck, and most of us don't need to haul 1200+ pounds everywhere we go. If you have need of a pickup for "work" duty, not hauling or towing large amounts, this truck will take care of all your needs on road and then SHINE off road.
@@freedomrider266 actualy, the PW is better on road vs other 3/4 tons thanks to its soft off road suspension.
Bought this truck took it off roading/camping for 3 days the day after i got it.. great truck just needs some bigger tires
Alex Kanuha welcome to the club! Give Offroad Power Wagons a look on Facebook, we have an annual Power Wagons get-together in Moab every spring.
Try 37'' you won't be disappointed ;)
Why bigger tires.. so doing angles the tires rub in wheel wells
Power Wagon will hold a 37/12.5 on the factory wheels with very very minimal rubbing.
Breaker Alex Do 37’s fit with no trimming? Did you re-gear?
What is with people wanting the cummins in this truck,there are reason's why it's not equipped with it and they're legit reasons.
i used to be one of those people then I did my research.
Yo Dawg : I would like the 3.0 Diesel. More torque that the gas motor and WAY better mileage
Jeffrey Conforti NOPE! Power Wagon needs a big V8 gasser. The 3.0 Ecodiesel would not be a wise choice of engine for a Power Wagon.
Richard Constantino : I think that the 3.0 liter Diesel would be perfect for the PW. More torque than the 6.2 gas motor and better mileage.
Jeffrey Conforti the truck is just to big for the little engine but I know torque numbers are higher. But for a truck like that and what it’s meant for the 6.4 Hemi is a great engine even if your daily driving it. Off roading with how the eco diesel is you will spin and stuff just how throttle is. The little eco diesel is a great engine for a half ton or like the Jeep Cherokee. I have an 18 ram 1500 eco diesel just from my experience I would say no to eco diesel in the power wagon.
I don't know about any of you other Dodge guys out there but I personally hope they never change those mirrors.
I like mine, but I think the Ford design is better. I don't find as much difficulty using them down as some seem to, but it is strange with mirrors down.
I love them, I'd be super disappointed if they ever changed
I drive the Ram with flip mirrors but I prefer the Ford telescoping design.
I have always loved the PW. My best friend has one and he put 37's on it. Fuel economy is crap big time. He makes bank so he doesn't care, he just loves that HEMI lol. I could not afford this truck. It is a specific type of truck no doubt, totally made for off-road more than towing or payload. The engine and driveline could def handle more payload and towing but its the suspension is what handicaps the payload and towing numbers. Those who get this truck usually don't care too much about payload and towing numbers though so there is that. Know your product before you go shop it and you won't be crying and complaining on SM about said product, you'll just love it cause you did your homework first. It is a beast and there is a huge loyal following that makes it almost Jeepesque in terms of social belonging. Maybe I will buy a used one, one day and enjoy one of those HEMI's too cause they are a badass engine but for now, I will just have to settle for riding shotgun.
I bought one. I love it. At first the shifting was a bit weird on hard acceleration but better now. Average 10 around town and 14 on freeway with a lumber rack on it. Comfortable seat and i love the lower GVWR. it makes the truck ride so much better. I run it empty most of the time and everything I have wanted to haul it has handled it great. Pulls my work trailer awesome. I may never go back to a diesel.
FINALLY! A real world review and great explanation of the lower capacities. The softer suspension has it's perks. It rides so well, yet will beat up almost any trail!
Cant worry about fuel efficiency. If your buying a 60k+ truck gas prices and cost shouldnt be a concern
I repeat this truck was NOT made for towing. It was made for 4×4 offroading. Rebel,power wagon are 4×4's 1st towing 2nd! You buy a 2wd for towing.
Ram/Dodge trucks have been the best looking trucks since 1994 when they first introduced the "big rig" design.
Living Beyond Existence Amen brother. I agree.
Opinions are like butt holes everybodys got one!
@@paulrodrigues9603 And thank god for that otherwise we'd all be constipated to hell! Lol
Love the HEMI engine but I wish it had more payload
That's the sacrifice for having an awesome off-road setup.
A couple that weighs 400 lbs apiece can bring a picnic basket for lunch while off-roading on a Saturday afternoon!!
Hit up thuren suspension and get some new coils and rear track bar 👍
For the remote start only double tap the start button dont hit the lock button works everytime
Ram boxes a must ?
My 19 PW gets 12.5 MPG around town and 17 on the highway
That's the same as a toyota tacoma 6spd manual and it weights about 3000 pounds lighter then a power wagon
Do these still have the door lock nob pinchers from hell at the top by the window? Man I want to kick that engineer in the balls who designed that in mine. Gets the back of my arm all the time..
Abs151 I rented a 2019 classic 1500 and couldn’t believe i kept getting pinched!!!
lol ya..
That's hilarious both my 14s and my current 19 get my wife on a weekly basis. I've never suffered from the dreaded pinch. Lmao
yeah
I have found with my 2018 2500 ram for the auto start, just press the the start button twice and it will start the truck. You don't have to press lock then start button
Hey JD, Here's the thing about the Power Wagon. This truck is made for off-road applications, not towing. If towing or payload is a concern, then the buyer should go with a standard model. This truck has softer springs which is why it has lower payload and towing specs. I own a 17' and take it off road all the time, in fact I know a lot of other PW owners that also take them off road all the time. Overall, it takes a certain kind of person to buy this truck... Your numbers on mileage are on par with mine as well. I hit about 13.5 with mixed highway miles. Good review, beautiful truck!
Don't hit the lock button on the remote just hit the start button twice.
On my ram, you just need to hit the remote start button twice. Btbrv, try it and let us know if it works.
Just got a 2020 Power Wagon. And it still gets 11.5-13.5 mpg in country or city
Horrible in town crappy. Mpg rural but about the best driving and handing
Kinda like driving a 8,250 lbs tugboat on the my way. Shure footed and very comfortable to drive or cruze
Beautiful truck, and I am all in. Problem is I also want to tow my 30 foot bumper pull trailer that is 6500 lbs dry. The distribution from the trailer reduces the payload so much there is just enough left for the family and the bikes. After that we are maxed out. I’m waiting for the 2020 power wagon. I hope they increase the payload and tow capacity. Great vid as as always.
b man just buy some air bags, doesn’t cost much
Ide rather have the same truck but without the power wagon package. 3k+ payload and 16,900 ibs towing. And still beastly. But I tow all the time so I need it
I bought the Tradesman with power wagon package. I love my truck. I don't care if it gets 13 mpg ave.
I own a 2015 love it and all serious I've owned it 2 years and not once have I had any issues
Air Bags! They used all the same components in the PW as they did in a regular 3/4 ton. If the only reason why payload is so low is because of the suspension, wouldn't airbags completely solve this issue?? Then deflating for regular driving without a load? Can someone with knowledge chime in? I'm not worried about towing as much but if I'm hauling stone. Wouldn't airbags work the same if not better than a regular 2500 with stock suspension since you can adjust the psi?
Also, with regards to mpg, the new 8 speed is getting 15 combined. (according to the forums) . A 1500 with e-torque is getting 19. At 12,000 miles per year, fuel at $2.50 per gallon, that is a $420 difference per year or $35 per month in increased fuel costs. Totally worth it for the 6.4L!
I have a 18 Ram 3500 mega cab single. It has the same remote start. Do not push lock. Just push start twice. 👍🤙
That's the same remote that most FCA vehicles use and just double tap the remote and it will start !
I’d like to comment on the rear legroom comment. GM and Ford put limiters on the front seat tracks so less legroom in front to give more in back. I prefer driver’s comfort over passenger comfort. Just my two cents on that.
I think it’s unfair to pick the payload and towing when it’s designed first and foremost as an off-road vehicle. You can’t really have both. If you want the capacity, get the regular truck with 4x4. I agree with the mirrors though.. it’s time for ram to update that.
Nobody is picking on it. It's simply informing people.
Agree about needing 35's for looks. And that is what this truck is all about, looks. Ram boxes I guess are OK if you never plan to have a rack on the truck.
Will B I couldn’t disagree more with you that this truck is all about looks. There are people who use these trucks for what their made for.
Greg Kittle, But Sir, little 33s??? Why limit the ground clearance by not going with 35s? They will readily fit inside RAM wheel wells.
Great comments JD. I agree, this truck is made for the guy towing a toy hauler into the back country but the payload and tow ratings don't support that type of use! As you said, Give it 2700lb payload and 12,000+ tow rating and it becomes a great option for the outdoors person. Great looking truck!
Awesome video as usual. In 2015 when I was getting ready to order a truck I thought about a Power Wagon for about 30 seconds and decided that I would never use it for what it's built for so I ordered a 2015 RAM 2500 Mega Cab Limited spec'd as follows: 6.4 HEMI, 4.10 rear differential, 4x4. My towing capacity is 15,960 lbs. and hauling is 2,900 lbs. As of this morning my combined fuel economy is 15.3 mpg. which is a combination of interstate (70 mph) and county highway (55 mph) driving and I just turned 132,000 miles on the odometer. I think I made the right choice in ordering this truck rather than the PW. I go off road a bit but really I need the 4x4 for all the snow, ice and mud here in Northwestern Illinois where I live.
i liked your video, but my only critique is what you were saying about its hauling/towing capability. Ram (like Ford Raptor) gave this rig a suspension that can flex and articulate to allow it to absorb bumps, washboard gentle landings, and climb rocks. if you gave this truck a suspension typical of a 2500 truck, that off-road capability would be significantly reduced. the customers buying this truck should recognize this before hand, you can get an off-road beast or a tuck that can haul/tow significant numbers. Not both.
One more thing, the Cummins option weighs nearly twice as much as the 6.4 Hemi, thats part of the reason why it' not an option.
I would love to see a diesel Power Wagon with better payload and towing capacity. Some of the off road capability might be compromised by beefing up the suspension, but a truck that can pull a toy hauler up into the Rockies AND handle the trails is exactly what I'm currently looking for.
sadnoodleboy the Ford Tremor might be the truck for you, then, if the brand name isn’t a big deal to you.
Agreed. But the practical answer is that you can increase payload by changing the suspension, and then you'd lose some of that payload by swapping the diesel into it. It's a balancing game. That's why it makes sense to get a Laramie if you want most of the features and more payload. The other option is to go where the original Power Wagon was: a one-ton class (3500) truck. If only Ram offered all the same offroad capabilities in the 3500...
I dont see the purpose of this being a 3 quarter ton. Personally with those numbers I'd rather just have a half ton, and be happier knowing I'm a bit lighter in the snow.
The 3/4 ton designation generally means more robust frame/suspension components which means it will likely hold up better under abuse, even though payload and towing numbers might not be any higher than a similarly equipped 1/2 ton or midsize.
I have a 2018 tradesman. Same engine. tows 2500 pounds more and 2000 pounds more payload. Priced at half as much. Do you want a truck, or a piece of art.
Or do you want a 3/4 ton fitted for extreme off road duties. That's the option here.
Your Tradesman without the Power Wagon package isn't going to keep up with this truck off-road.
The payload and towing numbers are embarrassing for a 3/4 ton
Get over it. Move to something else already
The spring rate is much, much softer then a standard 3/4 for the ability to articulate for what the truck is designed for and that is rock crawling/off roading. This is nothing new, it's been like this since this version of the PW came out in 05. It even says in the manual that you can not attach a snowplow to it, so that tells you a lot there.
You dont have to push the lock button on remote start if already locked. Also if out of range push remote start twice (4 times) and it will increase range and most likely start.
What a beast! I considered getting a PW, but I needed more payload. So, I got a 4x4 2500 Bighorn that has almost everything the PW has for moderate off roading. Yeah, the gas mileage sucks, but it tows like a champ! The 8 speed transmission is outstanding! Take one for a test drive.
I think the people in comments need to understand that with the amount of fitted OEM off road equipment. This is a 3/4 ton model that compromises lie in it being off road bias. It's simply proof that you can not have your cake and eat it too when it comes to off road and max tow packages.
best oveland truck as of right now .
not sure if that 11mpg is exclusive to the power wagon. But I have the same truck in a bighorn with the 4.10 and I get 16-17mpg average. But it really comes down to how you drive. If your getting 11mpg ide say you have a BAD case of led foot. Because I'm not exactly a slow driver
Bought identical truck two months ago without the ram boxes. Just waiting for BDS to make a 4 inch lift then I’m throwing 36’s on. I love this truck, but I’m a wagon fan. This is my second, it is definitely a love hate relationship you have to take the good with the bad.
Why wait for BDS to fit 36s when you can fit 37s on it stock. If you still got to have lift get an AEV kit and fit 40s
Don't hit the lock button when remote starting it, just push the start button twice
570cm is correct you don't have to hit the lock button on my 2017 ram, you only have to hit the start button twice
Yep that is true. Just hit the remote start button JD.
If your getting 11 mpg your idling or driving very aggressively. Most people have no idea how bad idling hurts your fuel mileage.
I love mine as well and get compliments all the time... it’s even the same color as yours
I do wish they would have made the time bigger on the 12” screen. It’s sooo small
FYI - don’t need to hit lock and then auto start button twice to start truck. Go right to auto start button and press twice. It will auto lock the doors for you.
What is holding this truck back from a heavier pulling capacity? Does it need airbags?
With my current travel trailer right at 7,700 lbs, 33’ Cherokee 274wk if my 2018 Cummins gives me lots of trouble with the stupid diesel emissions crap you can bet your &@$ I’m getting a Power Wagon. Air bag the rear suspension toss on some E or F load tires and get it! With the standard 4:10 gears it won’t have any trouble towing.
What you know that 98-99% of people who buy a power wagon won't offroad it? So many trucks to choose from for so many purposes. Buy the right truck for what you use it for. Or you can just buy it because you wanna be cool.
The only reason to buy a power wagon is it's off road ability. As you pointed out, with very little payload, and minimum towing ability, I'm not sure what else the truck is good for. I don't think many are going to pay that large a premium to use it as a daily.
Those sidesteps are most likely a dealer add on. Unless RAM made changes, those are not included with the Power Wagon.
It’s a factory option.
Beautiful looking truck. Payload and towing capacity, as you said a commuter fun truck if you can afford the gas.
The 2019 HD line only refreshed from the dash to front of the truck, the cab should be updated with the official redesign in 2020/2021.
I mean, it's got a new transmission, which goes further back than the dash...
okigojuryu 1979 lol fair point!!!
You do understand why the payload and tow capacity is because of the off road suspension right? You can't have a good off road suspension and a good tow rig. They are mutually exclusive
Thank you, after watching this video Power Wagon is out for me as a work truck....to unpractical. Thinking about a limited 1500 instead.
Steven Ruble yeah it’s definitely not good for a work truck, but for off-road it is the only way to go!
You can have all the Power Wagon specific feature in the tradesman trim and get a couple hundreds more pounds of payload and towing.
@@seXtra
I don't get it. He's says it's too impractical for work, yet says hes looking into a limited 1500?
Phattygoodness because the payload is more on 1500 then the power wagon and towing is more on 1500. But it’s different for each person there reasons
I agree about the mirrors. They need to change the style of them. The payload sucks. Nice looking truck.
Just double press the start button
Diversity and Comics Bear I think you’re right. I have a 2018 Laramie and all you have to do it double press the start button. I have no experience with the 2019s, but I wouldn’t think they would have made it more complicated.
Nobody buys this truck for payload and towing. The 2500 gas tradesmen has over 2000 lbs payload. Off-road parts are soft for rough roads not stiff for towing.
I just got a tradesman with power wagon option. While it's missing ssd ome features of the pure power wagon it's got all the main ones. I personally think it looks even better than than the pw with all that writing on the sides and a ram emblem on the back instead. Just a beast of a truck. My main complaint thus far is gas mpg. I tow around 8500 max so this will do ev er rything I need and I'll n ed ver go over the 1500 payload max my specs say I get. Just a beautiful truck. When you buy it like I did you can pick one up new between 50 and 55k instead of the 70 grand range the decked out pw cost. I refuse to spend that on a truck.
Nice review. I feel like with how small the world is these days and with information so readily available people should know what this truck is about. Yet, so many complaints about how it doesn’t do what they think it should do as opposed to what it was designed to do. I have only ever met two people who have bought a power wagon and they absolutely love them.
I would gladly give up my Laramie Longhorns towing capacity for the disconnecting sway bar. I have a 32’ travel trailer and it only weights 7500lbs. If you want a tow rig, buy a diesel. A stiff suspension or air shocks don’t belong on this truck, not to mention the bad weight distribution. I also think the cab is plenty big. We just took a 4K mile trip with one 5’ tall and two 6’ tall teens along with our dog in the back and they were all comfortable without complaint. My biggest personal complaint would be that floor shifter. Why? I loose my console for a shifter that I have a button for in my truck. The Larime and rebel console and bucket seats are excellent for trips and how many people run three up in the front? I can’t remember the last time I’ve see it. I do agree about the side steps. I would like to see something more like wide rock rails. I’ve hung up on mine when cantered on break over. I love the truck, but the ergonomics for long trips on this model might land me in a Larime or even a Rebel when I hit 200k.
I came from a 2019 ford ecoboost f150 into a 2020 power wagon. Ford has a better back seat with flat floor, better fuel economy and the steering wheel is far more adjustable. Other than that the power wagon would literally rip it in half. Remarkable truck.
READ THE OWNERS MANUAL IT SPECIFIES HIGH OCTANE FUEL FOR BETTER MILAGE..IF IT HAS ETHENOL IN IT YOU CAN ADD EXTRA OCTANE BOOST..MY 5.7 HEMI GETS OVER 20 MPG IN TOWN AND A LOT HIGHER ON THE HIGHWAY..ANYTHING OVER 120MPH BARELY BURNS FUEL..
I wouldn't call this thing a truck with payload being less than the payload of a minivan; just my opinion.
Don't want to throw a bloody deer or feral hog carcass in the back of a minivan though.
@@Adiscretefirm I'm not saying that I would take a minivan over the powerwagon. If 5 hunters each weighing 200 lbs drive in the cab with 120 lbs of gear, you do not have the payload capacity to put a bloody deer in the bed of this thing.
@@hansschotterradler3772 All manufactures use what is called the "SAE J2807 standard". It is a standard used to determine towing and payload capacities in trucks and SUVs. Accoridng to this standard payload is defined as the truck weight plus a 150lb driver and passenger and 100lbs of additional equipment and then the payload is on top of that weight. So technically with 5 passengers and a dear would be just fine. Unless the deer us the one driving, then you would have to explain the dead body in the bed and no one wants to be in that predicament.
Hans Schotterradler Pretty sure the truck would handle that easily and it’s a off-road truck. Softer springs and C rated tires.
I wanted to get this truck but was disappointed that they kept the same cab as last generation so I ended up getting a 19 Ram 1500. I'd say your mpgs are pretty impressive. My 19 Ram averages 11/12 city 16/17 hwy no etorque, 3.92 gear, street tires. Maybe once they release the power wagon with the new cab I will trade mine in since price wasnt much of a difference.
Biggest problem with the large screen is that it’s not full screen with apple carplay. Just a reminder that my 18 wheeler gets 12 mpg when empty
History leason on the power wagon. Dodge cars were used in the military from horseback. Military 4x4 trucks from Dodge since 1934. Before Jeep in 1941 and before WW2. 4x4 was military only untill 1946 when Dodge released the first american truck 4x4 to the public. Also Chrysler owned New process Gear which was the largest supplier of transfer cases for all full size 4x4 including G.M. and Ford which didn't offer a 4x4 until a decade after Dodge. Power Wagon is the grand father to all american 4x4 trucks.
The two main areas I wish Ram would totally address are first the mirrors, making them more like Ford and GM, and then carrying over the cab from the 1500 like Ford does with it's F150 and SD trucks.
those are legitimate issues in reference to this truck.. finally someone who actually seems to get this truck and it's purpose
Spot-on on the rear seat leg room. Also, the biggest deal breaker for me is the footwell bulge on the front passenger side. This means my wife can't put her feet flat down as she can in a Ford and has to sit at a slight angle which is not fun on longer trips. Any comments on this?
Sorry but I Love the Power Wagon and what it is and stands for. With that said unfortunately you are correct, most people that buy this type of truck dont use it for what its built for. Towing, not so much. Payload, not so much. You want a full size offroad truck like a jeep Rubicon? Then you got it here. People need to do some research and know what they're buying before complaining about it.
How about the lack of a telescoping steering column
Kevin Barry This is one of the most annoying features(lack thereof) on my 17. I’m 6’1” and my knees are almost in the dash to sit comfortably with the steering in my hands.
@@seXtra It wasn't designed for TRex drivers.
Everyone keeps talking about, payload, payload. the friggen Cummins limited has 1200lb payload and the Laramie has a1800lb payload. this has a 1100? I think your safe. Nobody is going to load a 1000lbs in their ram 2500 with a ram box. or the weight of 6 passengers. You think the truck will fall over and explode if you exceed a 1100lb payload? seriously it can tow 11000 lbs. some one explain to me what happens when you go over the payload? Nothing. Unless you are off-roading the vehicle will still drive perfectly on the highway with weight exceeding that. Just do exceed the payload when off-roading! that's why theirs a lower payload.
11 MPG without pulling anything, that right there told my wallet. No.
If I was real worried about fuel costs, I wouldn't be able to afford truck payments on a vehicle this expensive anyway.
@@datguy8371 affordability is subjective to an individuals income. That aside, the vehicle is not hauling anything, not towing anything AND as he stated he is driving it normally not pushing it around. In this scenario IMHO 11 MPG is just not practical for a DD. It might be for those who can afford it but I would venture to say that that number would be in the minority. Beautiful rig tho, just to costly for me.
People always ask me how the fuel economy is.... My answer is always the same... It's smiles per gallon.
@@Therealfrenchiedad I heard that! Its a Beautiful truck. My buddy has the 15' with 37's on it. I think he gets like 8 "Smiles" per gallon LOL. But I do love riding in it, its very smooth.
J Smith not sure if that's exclusive to the power wagon. But I have the same truck in a bighorn and I get 16-17mpg average. But it really comes down to how you drive. He might be hot roding the hell out of that truck
The 6.4 Hemi is great for the off road power in this truck If you're not towing regularly, however, If this did have a diesel engine, it would definitely solve the 11 MPG problem.
it would solve the 11mpg problem and then make the truck much less capable off-road (suspension would have to be stiffer to handle that extra weight)... then suddenly you don't have a PW anymore.. completely defeats the purpose of getting the PW trim 🤔
people who understand what a PW is designed for realize a diesel is counterproductive.. those people also realize literally any other 2500 trim comes with the diesel (because they're designed for hauling/payload/work)
I think a 2500at4 would be pretty awesome, sure no winch but honestly how often do u use it. Not often is the answer. Dodge has the worst designed mirrors in the industry even dodge customers think so.
You would probably need the winch more on the AT4 than the PW tbh, the PW is a dedicated off-road truck that comes twin locked, softer springed, tuned shocks, ect ect, meanwhile the AT4 only has a G80 in the rear. Not hating on GM, I'm a HUMMER guy, just giving my 2 cents.
All you have to do is change the spring rate, but then it would suck of road. Can’t have it all...
Cargo capacity is not very much because it has off-road suspension it's set up to be a plush ride not a work truck.
The Power Wagon is built for more serious off roading capabilities. Solid front axle, disconnecting (anti) sway bars, locking front & rear differentials, softer suspension, etc. In my opinion, people who buy the Power Wagon but don't take it off road (or rarely take it off road) are 1: status seekers, 2: buy the truck for it's looks or 3: want to go off road but are lacking something (like courage/knowledge/time/skill/other). I don't have a problem with any of that because people can do whatever they want for whatever reason, it's no skin off my back and people who make a $50,000 + purchase without doing any research on the product have more money than brains. People buy stuff they like the looks of all the time *cough-art-cough* so I won't fault them for it. As for the 11 mph rating, well, the Power Wagon isn't what I'd consider a "grocery getter" unless you live far off the beaten path that is. It is a pick-up truck and it has limited pick-up truck capabilities (hauling/towing) because it's designed as a street legal serious off road machine. If you want a 4X4 truck serious about hauling/towing, may I suggest going a size up to a 3500? Sometimes referred to as a 1 ton (single axle or dually).
My 12" screen locked up on me for a couple hours. Not sure why, but it all of a sudden snapped back into operation. Hope that doesn't happen again!
Majority of people probably aren’t going to take it off road? I’m getting one and I’m definitely taking it off road and there are tons of people that do. That’s what it’s made for... the people that don’t probably have no idea what the lockers they paid for even are.
Very nice truck. I would definitely agree the payload and towing should be better especially now with Ford unveiling their off road Tremor package and still having a respectable payload and towing numbers.
I really want this to be my next truck. Considering the size 11-12mpg isn't so bad. My old '13 Tundra Rock Warrior got around 11-13mpg in the city and 16.5mpg hwy.
You'll get better mpg than that unless 90% of your driving is in a large city...
i love the diesel soud
of power wagon 6.4
It is NOT a diesel. 6.4 Hemi is gas
Honesty not having bucket seat options or center console options for the power wagon really bugs me, I went with a 2500 6.7 as I was able to get buck seats/console I really dislike them not giving the option here
Why? I've had both, and despise the console. It kills love.
The bench seat has just as much, if not more storage, is just as comfortable as the buckets (except the middle) but keeps my lady next to me. She is willing to forgo a little comfort to be closer.
I'm sorry if you have a loveless relationship.