How Sonic Forces Ruined the Concept of Hype
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- Опубликовано: 20 июн 2024
- I want to stress this is NOT a Review of Sonic Forces. This is purely my story with the game and how I learned that over hyping a video game can sometimes be a bad idea. I don't hate Sonic Forces, far from it actually. BUT this game did let a lot of us down when released, and this video is that tale.
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I want to stress that this video is NOT a review for the game. This video is purely reminding the community as to why Sonic Forces was a disappointment to many fans, because I think a lot of people nowadays forget what made this game so disappointing
i dont think sonic fans need to be reminded how bad forces is
@@Ashly-28 and there lies the problem. Forces wasn’t bad by any stretch of the imagination, it’s just okay.
You forgot super mario odyssey when yiu were listing all those great games I the beginning 😐😐😐😐😐😐
@@colecole640 I lumped all of nintendo as one, because if I listed every Nintendo game of 2017, we would be here all day
@@NNCReviewsa boring game is worse than a bad game. A game is supposd to be entertain the player and if it fails to do so its a bad game. Forces is a bad game
When they lower the price to $40 before launch that’s a dead giveaway of a games quality
Shadow being in the villain line up in the trailer was dead giveaway of the games quality.
Most people consider Colors and Lost World the poster-children of the "meta era" when its really Forces because if you think about it the game comes off as a parody of the series itself. They marketed as return to the edgy dark story-telling, with its post-war setting, return of "fan favorite characters like Chaos and Shadow only for them to be executed or hand-waved in 1 minute cutscene, but ensure that you fight ZAVOK of all of them an overly edgy new villian that rivals Cold-Steel that talks a big gime while being absolute fodder, on-top of letting you self insert your fan-character for Sonic to treat like the special kid at the lunch table, culminating in this insulting wet fart of mediocre game called Sonic Forces, its the straw that broke the camels back for a lot of fans which is why there is so much distrust within the fanbase itself nowadays.
Sonic Forces me to abandon my sense of hype. This was a great video!
Hey! i recognize you from tiktok. Weird seeing you here on such an obscure channel
And idk about abandoning hype I was pretty hype for the final horizon, sonic dream team and im now hype for sonic x shadows generations(even tho I think shadows part of the game should be sold separately) I mean , it was 5 years ago and sonics been thriving since then, I assumed we all just got over it🤷
Imma say this, 06 is better than force because at the very least 06 tried to do something great even though it crashed and broke its neck. Forces on the other hand is mis as fuck. Its not funny bad like shadow or 06, its just empty bad.
At least forces works
@@Kooky95it works so well you only need a button to play it!
Cybershell casually predicting future advice.
So interesting thing about two worlds:
The word used for world, Sekai, is actually pretty generic. It doesn't strictly mean planet. It can mean something as big as a universe or as small as a society. This is what Iizuka was basically saying. The human world and the animal world as in the human society and the animal society. But the translator (who to be fair, was translating him live at an event) said world, and that was enough to set the Sonic fanbase ablaze.
As for Classic Sonic, in a lot of Japanese fiction involving time travel, they tend to use sekai to refer to different time periods as well (in Japanese 06, he always refers to the future as miraisekai - future world, not just the future). The Sonic series itself uses this in Silver's games as well.
"He's responsible for destroying my world!" - Silver
"I have to save your world, or mine will be destroyed, too!" - Silver
"No, I should be thanking you. You helped to save our world, too." - Espio
The Forces one is less forgivable, since they had way more than 10 seconds to translate it, but for whatever reason, they settled on dimension. So yeah...we have a fanbase angry at choices by Sega....because of bad translation and literal thinking
I mean, inoptimal translation is a Sanic staple. The people in charge of localization are paid to translate, not understand the story. Would you care about properly translating Farces?
Sonic Forces honestly taught me to tamper my expectations towards games I'm excited for and not just blindly be hype
Okay.... Sonic Forces was my first Sonic game ever, and I loved it.
A bit if a hot take here but sonic prime did a much better job at showing a world taken over by egg man and had a better war scene than forces did
While I find Sonic Prime a step up, I couldn't help but feel like they only use Green Hill as a setpiece despite the fact that it's part of South Island...
Prime is like forces wasted potential but I give prime this it at least show how threatening eggman can be but falls flat cause of awful characterization awful pacing,and of course the chaos council being annoying characters and makes you question how these 5 idiots took over the entire world
No contest. Those were the best part.
...Prime happened?
Anyone who says sonic forces is one of the worst games of all time or the worst game they've ever played.....
You have never played a truly bad game. EVER!
Sonic forces is the definition of mediocre. It warrants no praise nor malice.
Which is what the video is about!
i cant believe you started to talk about beyblade burst god in a sonic video-
Welcome to NNC Reviews
Beyblade burst is the Best
tbh i didn't really see the problem with forces when it first came out, but as i got older i kinda saw where all the criticism came from, the game had a good concept it was just executed kinda poorly
That's how I felt too when I first got forces.
I have a soft spot for the game because it is the first mainline Sonic game I've played, but I absolutely understand how poorly it was done.
It was the final straw after years, if not decades of games with baffling design decisions. Sonic team finally had something decent going with generations and they scrap it all for a shoddy proof of concept in lost world, then they tried to make a boost game out of that engine because just making "generations with more stages" in the first place made too much sense
Same here. If it were between 06 and Forces, I’d rather watch the latter burn. At least 06 has more to show even if people say it’s bad.
Didn’t really ruin the hype for me though. I was 10 going on 11 in 2017 when the Forces release cycle was happening and despite what everyone had been saying at the time, I was still more hyped for Forces than I was for Mania. In fact it was one of my first Switch games when I got it for Christmas in 2017. And despite the fact that I managed to beat the game in one sitting, I still enjoyed what I played and it’s actually one of my most played games on my Switch. And even all these years later I don’t really hate or even dislike Forces all that much. It’s a fine Sonic game imo.
That’s a good perspective.
Dude, just wanna say, great video.
14:15 I love how you’ve mentioned the hype surrounding the games here. I definitely think that it’s good to be excited about a game while staying discipline and having an open mind instead of having too much expectation, I’ll always have that mindset when approaching a new game reveal.
Sonic Forces to Me was a Lesson, To Control My Hype For Any Game, Especially after the First Trailer.
Forces is such a polished game because it scarcely lets itself BE a video game.
It's difficult to have glitches when the player doesn't get to control the characters.
I would consider a game that makes you feel literally nothing bad. The reason there are no glitches in Forces is because there's barely any game to break. Beyond that, nothing about Forces screams "polish."
I would argue forces *is* polished considered classic and custom characters stages are perfectly fine and playable when it comes to glitches
Polished doesn’t necessarily mean good
@NNCReviews "Playable" does not mean polished. Compare Forces to something like Mario Odyssey and the difference is obvious.
@@evdestroy5304not really. Forces is smooth, plays well, there’s no hiccups, and for what it is, it works. It’s the level design and other issues that hold it back. Idk if you played forces recently or not
@@NNCReviews "forces is polished" mfers when i show them classic sonic physics (it just works)
Sonic fans when they walk down an alleyway
It's okay to be excited for a upcoming video game or a movie! Just be sure to stay a bit optimistic. Or you will be disappointed when it finally comes out.
I definitely think that we shouldn’t let the hype we get for products get carried away. For a lot of stuff now, I go in with low expectations for anything, even if I’m excited for it. Like, when Marvel’s Spider-Man 2 was coming out, everyone was super excited, and after the game came out, the excitement stayed for about a week or two, and now I just see a lot of people hating on the game (not everyone, of course). Like, I get that some people will be disappointed, and some of the complaints I do get, but some of them I just don’t.
While I am excited for Sonic X Shadow Generations, I’m keeping my expectations low.
Good video.
2:09 this song bro 😮💨
2:53 whats wrong with light of hope? you could say it doesn't fit, but its a great song, reminds me of you're my hero and sonic r songs tbh.
Yeah so I was definitely over exaggerating there, I actually do like the song, it’s just within the context of the game that makes me.. not like it as much
8:34 - 8:45
For clarification, Eggman doesn't specifically say "I disbanded G.U.N." he only says he "put them in their place." Which can easily just mean he kept any G.U.N. resistance at bay. Not to mention recent stuff has pointed to the fact that it's still around.
Heh~ we both came up with the same headcanon for classic going from past to dimentional.
Heheh... heh...
Help.
9:40 He IS Sonic from alt dimension, cause Time Eater messing up with the time just created another timeline.
... And that is why i felt like Pikmin 4 was incomplete.
sonic forces me to never get excited over sonic games ever again
also hey, finally someone who has the same viewpoint on this game. it truly was everything critics back in the 2000s thought sonic games were in that era.
boost to win, useless friends, milktoast story, aggressively mediocre etc. etc.
Exactly. Forces is exactly what the internet thinks the boost games are actually like
i cant play forces, when i first got it it was fine, but after beating generations multiple times and playing a ton of unleashed, the controls throw me off so bad
Bro that shit is pure facts I remember it like it was yesterday I got more hype from the trailer than I did the actual game. I was extremely excited when the trailer first came out cuz we finally had a sonic game after years then when the game got fully released it was such a disappointment..
This is an amazing analysis. I subscribe
Brilliant video! You nailed my feelings down exactly. The game was so painfully average that you walk away feeling nothing after completion, no sense or achievement at all. So unfortunate they fumbled what could have been an amazing finale and powerful reoccurring villain. Regardless it was enough for Sega to realize change was necessary. Can't wait to see what you have in store next!
Thank you! That means a lot. And yeah, it’s a shame because I really do want to love it, but I just can’t
Ybh, the level design in the classic levels was pretty good, it's just you couldn't enjoy them bc of how bad classic sonic controlled.
Still getting all the chaos emeralds in lost world
Really great video, but Silver did do stuff in games after S06.
hey, hey, hey
do NOT insult light of hope like that, it's not a bad song
it is, however, a song that would play in high school musical
As I said in the video, it’s a good song just not in the context of sonic forces
Nice to see a video saying sonic forces is just medicore not the next spawn of sonic boom
6:28 i thought it was just me, like classic sonic is heavy asf
i cant remember any songs from forces say for fistbump infinites even got replaced with catacuacemun (i most certainly misspelled that)
Space port
@@NNCReviews isnt that a stage
9:08 nuh uh they’re translation errors (i think)
8:36 WHEN WAS THIS ESTABLISHED! Eggman taking down G.U.N since when I don’t remember this
This game really makes me believe the two worlds thing sonic people believe since yeah Gun wouldn't have fallen so easily and no humans in this are seen
@@lightdarksoul2097 it’s funny too cause “supposably” they exist in the same world which makes no fucking sense cause if that was the case then G.U.N should’ve played a much more bigger role in forces
@@user-vc2yu9xq9h i think since adventure and sonic x people don't know what kind of world sonic lives in especially after 06 and unleashed
I have beef with the avatar creator in Sonic Forces because apparently they cut out dragons from the species list in favour of bears 😔
Ehhh I get that. SEGA are focused more on mammals. It is more sensible
I remember recording this game day 1 and just glazing my ah off to make this game seem intresting. My ex believed my glazing and got the game herself... What have I done
i liked forces for what it is
I agree with you. I enjoy the game too
The only evidence we got that Eggman took over the world was a progress bar, and we just undid that. Unleashed alr kinda did this plot too except in that game the fucking world broke apart and we got to put it all back together.
love your content!
Mhm, yep, all this seems to be in orde-
2:52
I’ll fight you.
This is for real though, I was super excited for this game, I pre-ordered it and 100%ed it in like a week or so, but it felt wrong, since then I have not pre-ordered any game ever
The game is polished and well made, but so dreadfully boring and short, that i honestly prefere sonic 06 to forces, i at least had fun with it, and u could tell they tried, however forces it felt like they just through out there once everything looked good.
9:05
The two worlds thing could’ve worked if they just established that after Gens, a split timeline was created.
Which also allows more Classic Sonic games and stories to be made without them conflicting with the Modern titles.
Em, the 2 world thing was about there being a world with animal like creatures(sonic forces) and a world with humans (Sonic Adventure 2, Sonic Unleashed). It has nothing to do with classic sonic and modern sonic.
"everyone except chaos"
what about shadow?
0:40 bruh. I was just 12. Am I really that young in this fandom?
Sonic X Shadow Generations is something I AM hyped for. And people will probably call me an idiot for saying that I trust SEGA this time. If Shadow Gens is only 6 levels long and 2 acts each that are as long as the gameplay we saw, Im all for it.
Also, Forces is so mid that it’s bad. Shadow (a game that I actually enjoy a lot) & 06 were confident in what they were doing. But sort of had their steps in the wrong direction. (06 more than Shadow) and I’d prefer a game overambitious rather than under-ambitious and playing it safe like cowards. Sonic was always known to take chances. Everyone can point to games they like, good or bad. But Forces is such a nothing game that THAT is what makes it a terrible experience. Forces is worse than 06.
Great video. Actual good criticism.
👍
9:45 i think you meant it takes place before sonic adventure
I'm sorry, the light of hope hilariously bad? Na that song is a masterpiece. It makes playing through the boring ass game worth it. It so full of emotion and so powerful.
honestly the dread of the reveal information just made me lose more and more hope until i finally got the game and, felt nothing playing it, i did try for some of the red ring stages in hopes they'd be fun extra challenges like other unlockable levels are in games but they honestly had even worse gameplay, the loss in momentum from the double jump became blatantly obvious, such a weak jump made it not even give much vertical so using it was basically suicide. even during the main campaign, during the duo missions i would always use the wispon attack to get the oc in front because sonics turning is so ass.
i admittedly never played the shadow dlc because i brought the american version because the switch was region free, turns out it's only semi region free you cannot download dlc or redeem codes from other regions which is a bit of a piss take, missed out on my preorder bonus.
but yeah forces has semented my cautious approach, going into fronteirs i stayed entirely blind, i didn't even know about the other open zones so when i thought the game was over after the first super fight, i was pleasantly surprised by 5 islands in total, even if one of them is basically clickbait lol. superstars i was a bit more excited for but i'll be honest bit burnt out on the classic style, i've played advance, the original 4, mania, generations so i've had my fare share of the playstyle nowadays. but even then fuck the bosses drag. i played all the way up to the final boss in trips campaign and after suffering the final boss once, i didn't wanna deal with a second one especially with the knowledge of the 8 minute slog in the final story.
but that said i was content with superstars as a whole, the levels were fine and it had a substantial amount of content which is all i really needed to have a fun time.
I remember buying this game because I was and still am a big sonic fan but I lost the chip to this game and now I’m glad I lost it don’t wanna play slop
5:28 nope it’s easy the boost moves you forward so you can steer fully to the left and it works every time
Bro u sure this isnt a review cuz it sure feels like it. 90% of the vid is just talking about forces instead of how it ruined sonic hype 😭
You are missing the point, this is a build up, from pre release, to expectations, to how it disappointed us.
Sonic Forces had a great marketing campaign, which lead into the hype. Sure, I do go into the level design and story, but that's apart of it, there were so many expectations that this game didn't live up to.
When I do review the game, I will go deeper into the story itself and take it for what it is instead of what it wasn't, that's the point. this video is about how expectations and hype can be a bad thing. That said, if you want to see this as a review go for it, but it doesn't follow what I consider to be a review, this is a story. without the build up, I don't think the point would stand as strong
Am I the only one who knows how to boost around that corner kn Metropolitan Highway...? I honestly blame Sonic Team for taking away the drift.
If you can I will feel like the worlds biggest idiot for not knowing all these years LMAO
@@NNCReviews You literally can lol, dunno if you HAVE to hold forward, but I just do a Frontiers and fully hold the stick left (And make sure you're like, close to the middle of the road/path), but I can understand why people never knew about this lol, shit is WACK.
You sound exactly like Matpat
Man you going through the bullet points for this game literally brought back how mad I was when I bought n played this lol. I personally think this is worse than 06 in my opinion
I actually have fun when I play this game to be honest. same with 06
12:50 whats happened to this review?
Unlisted on my other channel. I may put it up again for history sake
My only issue with the "Alternate timeline" argument for Classic Sonic is...
This game has him sharing screentime with Silver, and these 2 together are a walking contradiction because they both follow a completely different time travel theory. (Change the past and you create a different timeline vs Change the past and you'll change the future too)
Personally, my biggest take-away to explain everything is that, in Generations, Sonic does forget about green hill, since it was way too long ago for him, so eventually so did Classic Sonic by the time he got to the point of reliving Generations himself.
I can see that. I always assumed silvers timeline remained the same after 06 (considering we don’t see it afterwards), so I figured it would apply the same for classic sonic.
@@NNCReviews It's weird cuz 06 is inconsistent with that, they talk a lot about how past changes future but we don't see Silver's changed future.
But then the game does end with traveling to the past and changing the timeline.
And Colors DS and IDW elaborated that Silver's future is good now (except that one time Forces happened, don't ask how his timeline got randomly affected when it was fine prior to it, is he just unaffected by time travel?)
I don't agree especially since in this game it's obvious that Classic is his own universe now as Sonic doesn't remember anything in Mania or remember meeting himself.
@@lightdarksoul2097 "Obviously" and it's a headcanon because Sonic clearly nods to his modern counterpart and comes straight outta Mania's good ending.
You know if Shadow Gens was Sonic forces then A. The fucking level wouldnt have lasted five-six minutes (since pros like Fadel and Choctopus played it) and B. The level would have ended after Shadow punched and kicked that missile
It’s so true
Definitely I think it’s looks closer to frontiers cyberspace (not the controls)
Than forces which is both a good and a bad thing
But genuinely looks really fun
@@RaiginAnimator
I disagree, I actually think it looks closer to Forces in terms of gameplay only it’s a lot more refined, which I hope this is what they stick with in the future. It looks like a good balance between Boost and Adventure in terms of Controls and Level Design while retaining a more cinematic and storytelling element Forces Attempted to do.
Imo what makes Shadow Gens have a more Forces aspect, besides the animations, is that the levels have more emphasis on platforming than on speed. This is what’s missing in recent games
@@leonardowynnwidodo9704 But it’s a platformer
And so did gens
Besides what do you mean by speed?
Like just straight boosting while reaching to obscalses or shortcuts
I am the tallest of mountains
Sonic forces is my favorite sonic game 🙂
Ok weird but ok
I like the game but I wouldn’t say it’s the best maybe you didn’t try the better ones to me its a barely good and only because i like sonic if i wasn’t a sonic fan it would have been terrible but i respect your opinion and i can understand because this game has allot of things to like
Beyblade Burst God, good times.
Beyblade X doesn’t hit as hard
This game was one of the first games I remember being extremely hyped for, along with games like pokemon sun and moon. I was into sonic and i played the adventure games, generations, wathced outside content. but it was the first time I was around for the games release and was SO excited. then it came out and i felt exactly the same as you, empty. It sucked, one of trhe first games ive ever been dissapointed by
Have you and I interacted before?
maybe? can't say I remember
@@NNCReviews Was just wondering because you mentioned Neo Classic Sonic, a term I use and try to make known but don't hear others use really. Maybe someone does, but I just never hear it.
And the aspects I point out about it is the same as what you referred to as a theory. I've had a minority of people I've talked to about it mention they perceived it as untrue for this reason and that, so I was under the impression that maybe we'd discussed this topic before on opposing conclusions.
Regardless, it's a fine video overall, even if I don't completely agree on that one aspect. But at this point, it's inconsequential.
Sonic Forces
Kingdom Hearts III
Cyberpunk 2077
Starfield
*The hypest games that ended up mid starter pack*
Cyberpunk ended up much better though, especially now.
Kh3 gave a pretty good ending to the story
I can say this. Bubsy the Woolies Strike Back is a better game than Sonic Forces. Sure, it may not be groundbreaking, let alone temptingly fun, but at least the game doesn't set up expectations that could not be so easy to mess up. In a way, a mediocre Bubsy game is a lot better than a mediocre Sonic game.
If you want Sonic Forces done as right as possible, then go play Kirby Star Allies. It knows what it's trying to be, while bringing back as much things from the past as possible. Pon and Con from Star Allies stood for everything Chaos should've been in Sonic Frontiers. There are dream friends that represents returning rosters. And the subtly added lore is the icing on top.
Kirby Star Allies could've been an insignificant title that we could easily gloss over. But it did right in the time when games like Sonic Forces, Star Wars Battlefront 2, and Blazblue Cross Tag Battle did wrong. Though it does say something when Star Allies won just by giving fans stuff for free. In a world where Forces, Battlefront 2, and Cross Tag Battle do the same thing, Star Allies would've been a joke.
Not to mention, there's also Super Mario Odyssey. Love it or hate it, it's way superior than Forces despite the lack of explicit fanservice.
Silver’s last notable gameplay was actually the Rivals series.
yeh
In other words, silvers last main role was 06
@@NNCReviews nuh uh
I am strangely happy that this game was a disappointment. why you ask? Well because I would have taken a break from this series and discover my love for fighting games and art etc I also would have not made my fighting game group socialize and know a bunch of great people…so thank you sonic forces for disappointing me so much for me to become the person I am today
I got sonic forces for free and I couldn't even finish it because of literal game breaking glitches (in 2021 mind you)
Now that’s some cap. There are no “game breaking” glitches in forces
Clearly you weren't around during Sonic 4 🗿
Oh I was, and I had to deal with publications thinking the game was amazing lol
didn't you like...make a tweet about this?
Yeah, to advertise my video
@@NNCReviews no I mean before this lol
Light of hope is one of the best songs in the franchise, what are you talking about? 😫
It is a good song! Just in the context of the game I don’t like it
I played trough the entire game multiple times and owned multiple copies and am not such a big hater as everyone else. music is banging, levels are fun(for the most part) andf I like he visuals, customization and SANIC. :D OFC there are some bad parts about it. But I sure as heck do not hate it as much as other people do. Everyone outside of Beyblade Metal Fusion is garbage tho. I like Sonic SUperstars nearly worse than Forces. YOU DIE LITERALLY EVRYWHERE due to insta deaths and I had many glitches and annoying levels. And the bosses are complete trash. Sonic Superstars is not really good.
Polished but to the point it isnt worth playing really as most of the game plays itself. Its really not a good game. 5 out of 10
You nailed it perfectly forces was a extreme disappointment, the problems with forces is simple; the plot was mid story could’ve been better, we should’ve had more boss fights, levels are too short, the game was too short beat it in 2 hours.
2:50
What bad song at the credits?
All I hear is peak.
11:43
Ah, I see.
3:32 Ehh the controls are terrible, I highly doubt the game would be polished if they couldn't even get the controls right
how is it terrible?
@@NNCReviews you're kidding right? You yourself said Classic Sonic sucks.
About Sonic and the avatar, the turning is all wrong and does not work for curves, they go automatically top speed and feel like you can barely move to the sides. The double jump is useless. It's a very restrictive control scheme
@@miadatenshi9903 I definitely agree on classic, and I’m not saying there’s not any issues with the control, I just don’t think it’s truly awful or anything. You can have your opinion and I can have mine
@@NNCReviews the game needed and required more development time. Just because it doesn't have bugs doesn't mean it's 100% polished
@@miadatenshi9903 never said it was 100% polished lol
I’m giving credit where credit is due
Yeah i do believe sonic forces is under the category of "trainwreck" The game is not really polished, with really clunky movement, the reason the game feels "polished" is because the game does everything in its power to just not have you play it, because it just has no level design. The game was just a big nothingburger.
The game is very automated, I will say that, but have you actually played forces?
@@NNCReviews Um yea? Thats nice instead of trying to disprove any of my points, your just like... "erm, did you akshally play the game???? ☝️🤓" Internet Gaming Discussion is my favorite
Your mom ate a nothingburger then gave birth to yououuuu
Your experience of this game sounds pretty similar to my own. I had to gaslight myself into thinking this game was good because I desperately wanted it to be good.
I feel you man. I am probably the same age as you, since you said you were 15 back in 2017 and I also turned 15 that year, and I was also hyped over Forces after watching the trailer. However, seeing the demo completely shattered all my hopes and dreams, especially since the level was very short; stiff camera shifts from 3D to 2D; very stiff gameplay and physics ; and especially Sonic has a new redesign (shorter quills with a lighter shade of blue). He was already perfect when we saw his Unleashed design, and now you’re redesigning him to be a Modern/Classic hybrid? What’s wrong with you?
I’m not just stopping at Forces here. Fast forward to 2021, we saw the trailer for Frontiers and was mid-hyped after the Forces fiasco, and my mind went blank when I saw Sonic’s idle animation (it looked exactly the same as Forces). Then when the game came out, the team still used every aspect of Forces from his new design to terrible physics and animations. On the other hand, the concept of an open zone is still very interesting and I do love to see Sonic exploring the Starfall Islands and seeing his combat moves(Werehog combats are still better, though). But to think that Sonic Team still kept the aspects from Forces into Frontiers, I might as well criticise them for ruining my childhood franchise.
I’m taking another step further with the new Sonic x Shadow Generations game. The Shadow levels are great, believe me, it may have a lot of platforming similar to Forces, but it’s great that there are alternate paths which you have to react quickly to reach them. But guess what? SEGA decided to use Forces animations for Shadow, e.g. his spin jump, no hop, the white triangles when you see him boost from behind, his boost (although I have to admit it looks cool), etc. Come on Sonic Team, if you’re making a tie-in with one of the greatest masterpieces that you’ve made, then stick with the format, will you? Don’t deviate too much from it. What are you psychotic?
I don't think you do feel him. This is arguably just blind disdain for Forces.
@@johnathonturner2279 for the most part, yeah it’s disdain. But we’re pretty much on the same boat about being hyped
Sonic Forces = DeviantArt Simulator 😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I rather play Frontiers then this.
Then overclock happened
Next time…
Is ok for me to be honest about overclock?
@@user-vc2yu9xq9h yup
@@user-vc2yu9xq9h yes
@@user-vc2yu9xq9h yes
Just see the title and thumb nail I'm already getting PTSD from 2017
It's crazy how you and I were around the same age when this game got announced. I was actually rooting for this game. But instead I feel nothing but resentment for this title. It didn't help that I paid the full 40 dollars on release too. Felt liked I got ripped off in a way.
What I'm trying to understand is why y'all fans still complaining about this trash game when sonic has been doing good recently from frontiers and the Sonic movies. Y'all keep bringing up his down fall when recently way after forces he's been doing good. Come on bro plus overclocked made sonic do even better than what Sega did for sonic forces. So why keep talking about forces when the hedgehog has been doing good recently? No offense I'm just curious.🤔
You clearly have not watched the video. This video is about how hype can lead to expectations. It’s history, shadow generations gameplay was revealed and people seriously called it Sonic Forces.
I legitimately believe people forgot what made forces disappointing. And the funniest part of all, I actually LIKE this game.
This video is my story on sonic forces, and if you don’t like that, you can leave.
@@NNCReviews okay what ever bro
“ what ever “ stop arguing without context lol
@@Broman605 he was saying the game WASN'T bad the whole video 😭
@@NNCReviews I'm going to ignore you bro
Ok after watching the video I have some thoughs
Like for example cybershell was fucking right again
And I was VERY excited for forces because it was the first sonic game I'm here for the build and and release and since then I'll be very VERY cautious about getting hyped for any sonic game (maybe any game in general?) unless it's a remaster or a remake of an already good game and it's 90% good hype (ehm sonic colors ultimate)
Now to be fair, the reason that Forces doesn't have that many glitches is because glitches happen when the player does something that either the game engine wasn't prepared for or the devs weren't expecting the player to do, and it's downright impossible to do something unexpected in a game that's essentially a glorified cutscene.
i wouldn’t necessarily say that’s the case. Classic Sonics levels don’t have any big glitches, neither do the custom characters. Sonic forces is polished
@@NNCReviews I did just say the game doesn't have many glitches. Did you even read my comment or did you just see the word "glitch" and assumed that I called the game a buggy mess?
@@sharzinlalebazri5673 He's referring to the fact that the bits that aren't on rails aren't buggy either
@@iseethesea That would imply there is ANYTHING in the "game" that isn't on (metaphorical) rails (although... a lot of the game IS on literal rails too).
Forces taught me to not be hype about Sonic until I've seen enough because of awful quality control this series has. I still get hyped for other stuff but now i actually have to be weary about other series now, especially with the disappointment of Spider-Man 2 and God of War Ragnarok, 2 games with studios that pretty much always created Peak. And ESPECIALLY from The Last of Us Part 2 but i managed to read the leaks to avoid getting to the point of "THIS IS GONNA BE PEAK FICTION"
Yeah I feel you man, hype is a very dangerous feeling, it’s fun, but can lead to massive let down
Forces legit killed my Sonic hype for 5 years
The game that killed the trust of EVERYBODY.
I think the thing that sucks about Forces most is just hearing about the “development” it had later. Over half of development being updating a lighting engine, and the remaining 2 years being for the actual game. Much of the Sonic Drought of the 2010s was in part helmed by that, and it kinda sucks to see. I choose to believe that whatever happened with Forces was entirely a Sega management issue rather than a Sonic Team issue, which compounded with the stuff that had already been building.