И всё же, никто не приблизился к пленительности мелодики этой арии Верди, никто кроме великого маэстро, у Лучано местами да, вырисовывается эта мелодичность, но лишь местами, музыкальной целостности у него нет, ибо, где сменой темпа, где резким звучанием он выбивается из целостной музыкальной канвы арии, у Карузо же всё, как на одном дыхании, мелодика исполнения просто завораживает, от первой до последней ноты это единае музыкальная ткань, полная гармония. Паваротти несомненно большой мастер, и он прекрасно понимал, где все сегодняшние тенора и где этот великий непревзойденный ваятель истино человеческих чувств.
His chest voice is so light that his head voice blends almost perfectly with the chest making even tone across the scale. What a gift. Add his diction and intonation and you have a finished amazing instrument ready to be played. Amazing.
Absolutely! I believe a big mistake people make is thinking there will ever be another Pava and "waiting", "comparing" all others to him instead of enjoying all the blessings of talent there are. Tho Pava owns my heart, I do enjoy listening to Brownlee, Victorio, Florez and others. You are so blessed to be close enough to attend the Met and see such talent live! Living in a rural area which has no Opera house is my life's regret at never being able to see Pava or any of the great talent live.
This scene was taken from the Jean Pierre Ponelle's beautiful film of Rigoletto, no doubt the sound was recorded in the studio and likely enhanced, but no matter you would be hard pressed to hear better singing.
DUCA Ella mi fu rapita! E quando, o ciel?... ne' brevi Istanti, prima che il mio presagio interno Sull'orma corsa ancora mi spingesse! Schiuso era l'uscio! e la magion deserta! E dove ora sarà quell'angiol caro? Colei che prima poté in questo core Destar la fiamma di costanti affetti? Colei sì pura, al cui modesto sguardo Quasi spinto a virtù talor mi credo! Ella mi fu rapita! E chi l'ardiva?... ma ne avrò vendetta. Lo chiede il pianto della mia diletta. Parmi veder le lagrime Scorrenti da quel ciglio, Quando fra il dubbio e l'ansia Del subito periglio, Dell'amor nostro memore Il suo Gualtier chiamò. Ned ci potea soccorrerti, Cara fanciulla amata; Ei che vorria coll'anima Farti quaggiù beata; Ei che le sfere agli angeli Per te non invidiò.
@sopranosd The concert was one with Sting and others( I forget whom) and Luciano was singing La donna e mobile together with them all. For some reason he opted for the recording he made with Bonynge and Sutherland. So, Luciano's part that was actually heard was the recording from the Seventies, while others sang live. He tried lip-synching silently. but it looked very unconvincing.He admitted it and wrote he accepted the criticism.
@sopranosd Folks--back in the day this was filmed the singers did "messo" or mark to a backup trac in order to get the phrasing and breathing down, but the actual singing on the film is done in the recording studio. Back then if the singing were to be recorded live, one would hear all the breathing of the crew, actors, and any external noises, ie, cars passing, planes going overhead, etc. That is why we get to hear the high D as Pava never used it live, Can you imagine the boos if he cracked?
No, that was my mistake referencing another singer that he had not and I recanted on the other thread. He did, indeed, sing the D5 live on a few occasions including the "Live from Lincoln Center" concert with Joan Sutherland. However, I do believe he did the E5, F5, and F# only in recording--or at least I've not been able to find a live performance with these---if you have, please share.
@jewelmarkess Thank you for the info but my heart belongs to Pava, and tho, I enjoyed the Domingo version (I think Victorio is going to be a world class tenor!), I really prefer this Rigoletto version w/Pava! No one has, or ever will have again in my humble opinion, this voice from God.
@sopranosd What do you think? Of course lip-synching. The recording was made in the studio. The film was filmed later During the film he could've sung mezza voce, or mark, just to add more realism to the whole.
@sopranosd I apologize if I sounded harsh.That was not intentional at all.His lip-synching in this film is very good indeed, partly because I think he marked or sang half voice along with the sound from the studio during the filming. Which is completely O.K.. However, if you remember, once in a live concert with pop singers, when he could not mark or sing along with the recording, there was an unpleasant incident he himself admitted was embarassing(he wrote about this in his memoirs)..
@jewelmarkess Yes, he was booed for cracking the high "C" in Don Carlos, so can you imagine the boos if he had tried the "D" live and cracked--which would have been more likely? I can't fathom living under the pressure of fans and critics expecting a perfect performance every time he walked on stage! Perhaps that is a factor in his personal life being such a mess. The "new" film of Rigoletto with Domingo is recorded "live" and there are instances of coughing and dropping props in the background!
@appeace1 Yes, this was funny in this film with Domingo. BTW -- this movie with Domingo is available on the PBS website in its entirety, as a single video not in clips (in case you are interested, I know you've seen it but...) together with a quick tour of Mantua in the beginning as shown on tv.
@sopranosd Pava was never very good at lip synching-too obvious-wrong technique, but I feel he did an admirable job here since he was actually "marking", therefore, technique is correct as if he were actually full out singing. I, personally could not imagine the stress of having billions of people watching my every move--expecting a perfect performance every time and they just wait to "pick apart" anything not perfect! If one knows the voice is not answering well the temptation is to lip synch.
Ишь ты какой умник🙄🤔?!А ты считаешь,при таком пении,то бишь постоянно на пределе(форсаже!)голос не изнашивается?!?Сколько Пава надрывал свой уникальный ГОЛОС за эти,подумаешь,всего лишь каких-то 10 лет!!!Это тебе не струны на гитаре или скрипке,которые можно заменить или перенастроить на нужный лад!!!Нет,дружочек,здесь твоя критика или разочарование крайне неуместны!!!Я вообще не понимаю,зачем ты и подобные тебе критикуют и чего-то всё время сравнивают,вместо того,чтобы наслаждаться гениальностью подаренной всем нам этим величественным оперным тенором!!!
@@АлександрМакаров-г9з Ишь ты какой умник?! А ты считаешь, что профессионал должен петь на пределе возможностей и с постоянным форсажем? Послушай Карузо, Джильи, Бьорлинга, Крауса и других, у которых и в возрасте голос был свежим (кстати, в 1971-м Паваротти поёт без какого-либо форсажа). Так что ты и подобные тебе пусть на мои комментарии лучше вообще не отвечают, ибо не понимают ничего.
@@ИванКопылов-т2у Дружок,у нас с тобой примерно такой диалог:"Я тебе сено - ты мне солома!И про упомянутых тобой товарищей...уж не надо мне вешать лапшу на уши,рассказывая про то,какие "свежие" у них были голоса в возрасте!!!Особливо Краус(да и другие!)в возрасте,старенький,плохенький певчишко у которого кроме чисто человеческого обаяния ничего не осталось!!!Пава единственный из всех тобой упомянутых,кто реально сохранил ГОЛОС на старости лет,естественно благодаря своей выдающейся технике!!!А то начал тут:"Послушай того,послушай этого"...Если ты НЕ в состоянии отличить острое от горького и солёное от кислого - о чём с тобой вообще тогда говорить,"знаток" блин...
@appeace1 I agree vocally this version is better. I do like Domingo but as a tenor. To me preferring one singer doesn't mean we can't enjoy others, especially those we can experience live. For example, last night I was at the Met listening to Nabucco and it was great. There is a young Korean tenor Yonghoon Lee - I heard him first last year in Don Carlo, and last night too, he is very impressive even though the tenor's role in Nabucco is not that prominent. Check out Fabiano too - promising.
Pavarotti + Verdi , una meraviglia assoluta
Tremendous. His voice is so strong, bright and he seems to do it all efortlessly. There's so much passion in this rendition.
I think this is the best tenor aria in Rigoletto, magnificently sung by Luciano Pavarotti.
И всё же, никто не приблизился к пленительности мелодики этой арии Верди, никто кроме великого маэстро, у Лучано местами да, вырисовывается эта мелодичность, но лишь местами, музыкальной целостности у него нет, ибо, где сменой темпа, где резким звучанием он выбивается из целостной музыкальной канвы арии, у Карузо же всё, как на одном дыхании, мелодика исполнения просто завораживает, от первой до последней ноты это единае музыкальная ткань, полная гармония. Паваротти несомненно большой мастер, и он прекрасно понимал, где все сегодняшние тенора и где этот великий непревзойденный ваятель истино человеческих чувств.
Semplicemente unico e inimitabile Duca di Mantova!!!!!!
Grazie Divino Maestro Giuseppe Verdi
quel bel enregistrement! Pavarotti, sa voix est naturelle, il ne la fabrique pas comme beaucoup d'autre ténor è la voix nasillarde...
Che meraviglia! Grande Luciano!
His chest voice is so light that his head voice blends almost perfectly with the chest making even tone across the scale. What a gift. Add his diction and intonation and you have a finished amazing instrument ready to be played. Amazing.
Beautiful
Absolutely! I believe a big mistake people make is thinking there will ever be another Pava and "waiting", "comparing" all others to him instead of enjoying all the blessings of talent there are. Tho Pava owns my heart, I do enjoy listening to Brownlee, Victorio, Florez and others. You are so blessed to be close enough to attend the Met and see such talent live! Living in a rural area which has no Opera house is my life's regret at never being able to see Pava or any of the great talent live.
ah I have no time to waste, I only listen to the best male voice of all time, Luciano pavarotti
Happy birthday to Luciano Pavarotti his birth verse is Hosea 10 :12 rest in peace ✌️ Blessings and hugs 🤗💞🤗🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏!
Wunderbar, Luciano!
good heavens--my kinda man!
Big man with a large voice.
Talmente naturale è la sua bravura..
This scene was taken from the Jean Pierre Ponelle's beautiful film of Rigoletto, no doubt the sound was recorded in the studio and likely enhanced, but no matter you would be hard pressed to hear better singing.
Pava is the f...ng best!!!
Caruso the best tenor the wold
@@albertodiaz8070 😐😐😐😂😂😂
handsome and great voice
DUCA
Ella mi fu rapita!
E quando, o ciel?... ne' brevi
Istanti, prima che il mio presagio interno
Sull'orma corsa ancora mi spingesse!
Schiuso era l'uscio! e la magion deserta!
E dove ora sarà quell'angiol caro?
Colei che prima poté in questo core
Destar la fiamma di costanti affetti?
Colei sì pura, al cui modesto sguardo
Quasi spinto a virtù talor mi credo!
Ella mi fu rapita!
E chi l'ardiva?... ma ne avrò vendetta.
Lo chiede il pianto della mia diletta.
Parmi veder le lagrime
Scorrenti da quel ciglio,
Quando fra il dubbio e l'ansia
Del subito periglio,
Dell'amor nostro memore
Il suo Gualtier chiamò.
Ned ci potea soccorrerti,
Cara fanciulla amata;
Ei che vorria coll'anima
Farti quaggiù beata;
Ei che le sfere agli angeli
Per te non invidiò.
@sopranosd The concert was one with Sting and others( I forget whom) and Luciano was singing La donna e mobile together with them all. For some reason he opted for the recording he made with Bonynge and Sutherland. So, Luciano's part that was actually heard was the recording from the Seventies, while others sang live. He tried lip-synching silently. but it looked very unconvincing.He admitted it and wrote he accepted the criticism.
@sopranosd Folks--back in the day this was filmed the singers did "messo" or mark to a backup trac in order to get the phrasing and breathing down, but the actual singing on the film is done in the recording studio. Back then if the singing were to be recorded live, one would hear all the breathing of the crew, actors, and any external noises, ie, cars passing, planes going overhead, etc. That is why we get to hear the high D as Pava never used it live, Can you imagine the boos if he cracked?
Mi piacerebbe sapere chi sono quei due ...... a cui non è piaciuto. Eh vabbè, così va il mondo: esistono anche loro, ahimè.
BELLA ARIA
No, that was my mistake referencing another singer that he had not and I recanted on the other thread. He did, indeed, sing the D5 live on a few occasions including the "Live from Lincoln Center" concert with Joan Sutherland. However, I do believe he did the E5, F5, and F# only in recording--or at least I've not been able to find a live performance with these---if you have, please share.
@appeace1 I think he was booed at La Scala once. But then many a great singer was booed at La Scala at one time or another...
I'd assume so.
@jewelmarkess Thank you for the info but my heart belongs to Pava, and tho, I enjoyed the Domingo version (I think Victorio is going to be a world class tenor!), I really prefer this Rigoletto version w/Pava! No one has, or ever will have again in my humble opinion, this voice from God.
appeace1
@sopranosd What do you think? Of course lip-synching. The recording was made in the studio. The film was filmed later During the film he could've sung mezza voce, or mark, just to add more realism to the whole.
@sopranosd I apologize if I sounded harsh.That was not intentional at all.His lip-synching in this film is very good indeed, partly because I think he marked or sang half voice along with the sound from the studio during the filming. Which is completely O.K.. However, if you remember, once in a live concert with pop singers, when he could not mark or sing along with the recording, there was an unpleasant incident he himself admitted was embarassing(he wrote about this in his memoirs)..
@jewelmarkess Yes, he was booed for cracking the high "C" in Don Carlos, so can you imagine the boos if he had tried the "D" live and cracked--which would have been more likely? I can't fathom living under the pressure of fans and critics expecting a perfect performance every time he walked on stage! Perhaps that is a factor in his personal life being such a mess.
The "new" film of Rigoletto with Domingo is recorded "live" and there are instances of coughing and dropping props in the background!
2:25
@appeace1 Yes, this was funny in this film with Domingo. BTW -- this movie with Domingo is available on the PBS website in its entirety, as a single video not in clips (in case you are interested, I know you've seen it but...) together with a quick tour of Mantua in the beginning as shown on tv.
@sopranosd Pava was never very good at lip synching-too obvious-wrong technique, but I feel he did an admirable job here since he was actually "marking", therefore, technique is correct as if he were actually full out singing. I, personally could not imagine the stress of having billions of people watching my every move--expecting a perfect performance every time and they just wait to "pick apart" anything not perfect! If one knows the voice is not answering well the temptation is to lip synch.
Ни в какое сравнение не идёт с его же записью 1971 года. Что ж с ним такое произошло за эти 10 лет? :(
Ишь ты какой умник🙄🤔?!А ты считаешь,при таком пении,то бишь постоянно на пределе(форсаже!)голос не изнашивается?!?Сколько Пава надрывал свой уникальный ГОЛОС за эти,подумаешь,всего лишь каких-то 10 лет!!!Это тебе не струны на гитаре или скрипке,которые можно заменить или перенастроить на нужный лад!!!Нет,дружочек,здесь твоя критика или разочарование крайне неуместны!!!Я вообще не понимаю,зачем ты и подобные тебе критикуют и чего-то всё время сравнивают,вместо того,чтобы наслаждаться гениальностью подаренной всем нам этим величественным оперным тенором!!!
@@АлександрМакаров-г9з Ишь ты какой умник?! А ты считаешь, что профессионал должен петь на пределе возможностей и с постоянным форсажем? Послушай Карузо, Джильи, Бьорлинга, Крауса и других, у которых и в возрасте голос был свежим (кстати, в 1971-м Паваротти поёт без какого-либо форсажа). Так что ты и подобные тебе пусть на мои комментарии лучше вообще не отвечают, ибо не понимают ничего.
@@ИванКопылов-т2у Дружок,у нас с тобой примерно такой диалог:"Я тебе сено - ты мне солома!И про упомянутых тобой товарищей...уж не надо мне вешать лапшу на уши,рассказывая про то,какие "свежие" у них были голоса в возрасте!!!Особливо Краус(да и другие!)в возрасте,старенький,плохенький певчишко у которого кроме чисто человеческого обаяния ничего не осталось!!!Пава единственный из всех тобой упомянутых,кто реально сохранил ГОЛОС на старости лет,естественно благодаря своей выдающейся технике!!!А то начал тут:"Послушай того,послушай этого"...Если ты НЕ в состоянии отличить острое от горького и солёное от кислого - о чём с тобой вообще тогда говорить,"знаток" блин...
@@АлександрМакаров-г9з ну-ну, тебе по одному "форсажу" уже можно "диагноз" ставить, так что повторюсь, на мои комменты отвечать не нужно
@appeace1 I agree vocally this version is better. I do like Domingo but as a tenor. To me preferring one singer doesn't mean we can't enjoy others, especially those we can experience live. For example, last night I was at the Met listening to Nabucco and it was great. There is a young Korean tenor Yonghoon Lee - I heard him first last year in Don Carlo, and last night too, he is very impressive even though the tenor's role in Nabucco is not that prominent. Check out Fabiano too - promising.
sorry where does he sing E5, F5 etc? The only D5 i've heard him sing sounded a bit strained
Des Headland Posente amore?
Its a stunt-double running up the steps, isn't it?
Of course. That fat cunt wouldn't be running up the stairs would he?
He was a footballer in his youth but .......
Interpretare slabuta! Pavarotti canta natural fara pic de tehnica vocala! Foarte des strangula sunetul in registrul mediu!
Bati campii!