Will a gas engine run on Coleman Fuel? Let's find out!
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
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You really went all out for this test. You really have set the bar for these companies when testing their products and claims. There is no hiding for them anymore. Good job sir.
Thank you very much!
Yeah, take that Coleman! Let's see you try to break into the automotive fuel market with camp fuel after this video! The jig is up!!
@@CavvyStudios 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Haha you sound quite sick. Hope you feel better :)
Yes, I think I had the flu. Thanks!
Mass doses of Vitamin D brother - it works!
Massive dose of C also.
Walter H. White C, D and a lot of blankies
Raw Garlic with each meal.....i haven't had a cold or the flu in years.
Way back in the late 80's probably, a friend did run out of gas a couple miles away from civilization but had a gallon of this Coleman fuel on him to get him back to a gas station. He said it ran strange with bucking etc., but it made it. It was probably a 1976 era Jeep Cherokee. Thanks for the great videos!
You are welcome! Thanks for sharing.
Glad to see you try this one! I have a quick anecdote about Coleman Fuel/White Gas in a larger scale motor. I was out camping with the scouts about 20-25 years ago, and we were on our way back home in my dad's trusty '87 E150 van with a stock carburated 302. The van started running really rough, and eventually died. My dad correctly determined that the motor wasn't getting gas (he initially thought the fuel pump or pickup had died in the front tank). We removed the engine cover from inside the cabin, exposing the back half of the engine. He took off the Air Filter, and had me dribble white gas down the carb throat while cranking the engine, and we were able to limp the van down the road a few miles to a gas station. The rest of the kids in the back thought we were some kind of mad scientists/geniuses for being able to do that, which was kind of cool. The motor definitely didn't like it (or maybe it didn't like that we were pouring a thin stream of liquid gas down the throat!) because it pinged like mad the whole way. My dad later confessed that he was worried about it coming apart, and then having a MUCH bigger issue on the side of the road with 5 scouts in the back. After getting everyone home safe & sound, It turned out that the fuel tank selector switch had gone bad, so when you changed to the front tank, it didn't let any gas at all get to the engine.
Keep up the great videos!
What a great experience and great memories! Thanks for posting this.
Good Scouts are ALWAYS prepared....
The problem is it's only about 70 octane.
About 30 yrs ago, came back from mine and my buddies annual camping trip on the AT one summer. Was gonna stop and get gas on the way back to town after going home. Got home and a msg on the answering machine asking me to come in to work about 30 minutes from the present time. Sooo, didnt unload my little Subaru sedan, full of 2 weeks worth of gear. Headed to town and in the hustle forgot gas. Over on the side of the road I found the only thing I had to carry gas in was a full coleman can, pour it on the ground and hoof it or pour it in the tank. So I drove the 2 miles on coleman fuel with no problem. Could have went to town and back in that car on that. An 86 model that got 37 mpg.
Great story. Glad you all made it home affect.
Finally, a channel that tests everything I would ever want to without my wife yelling at me! Keep up the great work.
Thank You
@@ProjectFarm I have a Coleman ct200uex mini bike would this fuel method work? xD
I love the slow-mo zoom of the gas bouncing up and down in the clear tank. You're videos are awesome. I know others have said it but it's worth repeating- you're clear and to the point, your music is great, not too loud, and you pack so much info into 10 minutes. It amazes me the lengths that you to to keep your tests even and unbiased! Keep up the amazing work!
Bonus points for the lawn mower- generator- cart. :-)
Thank you!
I have always wondered about this, thank you for the Project Farm channel and all you do.
Thank you very much for the positive comment!
Project Farm very cool video. You have an interesting channel, as such I have subscribed, keep up with the great videos and have a great day. Oh, a suggestion....not sure if you have already done this, but I imagine with all the motor heads out there you may have done, anyway....nitrous oxide + different fuel mixes? Might be interesting, but destructive to a motor, especially with the heat and pressure. Just thought you might be able to use a fuel that hasn't worked out so well in the past with such a strong oxidising agent....maybe?
I am very surprised by both engines! I ran Coleman fuel in my old 4.5hp Briggs years ago and it pinged like hell with the lightest load. Both those engines sounded great! I love being truly surprised...
Looking forward to when you get a small diesel engine.
Thank you. I'm looking for one.
Project Farm Yes, diesel! Hello from Gladstone. Get well, the weather has been all over the place here in KC.....My whole house is sick.
wish i could donate the little yanmar diesel i have.. might cost a bit much to ship it from australia tho lol
I also look forward to the day.
You can buy small single cyl ones online. But they aren't cheap..
Still working hard despite being sick, thanks for toughing it out to bring us more of your content. I'd still like to see a lubrication test of an engine run on "personal lubricant" to see how it would hold up. Being water-based I'd imagine it would evaporate quickly once the engine warms up and would eventually seize but it would be interesting to see how it holds up.
Thank you for this recommendation.
try running diesel fuel in the crankcase
Thank you for this recommendation.
I wanna see this, too... Maybe see how well it cleans. I've heard of people using diesel fuel in crankcase and auto trans and got them really clean.
I too have thought this, I know a guy who uses it to flush out engine oil when doing a change, no idea if it works.
Bonglord what will it do? I genuinely don't have a clue?
I can say it works well. Also add acetone to the mixture. Have also added a small quantity of petrol to the mix, can say the truck went like a rocket after that.
I’m always excited when you come out with a new video
Thank you very much for the positive comment!
I second this comment!
3rd this comment
I plead the fifth, and maybe drink a fifth ! A shot at a time. Don't want it to foul my plugs ! HA ;-) JK
hey brother, I hope you feel better, you sounded under the weather. that's pure dedication to continue to please your fans even when feeling down!!! you are amazing and keep up the good work!!!!
Thank you very much!
Thanks for the content even though you are under the weather! Whatta guy!
Thank you very much!
I can’t believe your still replying to all these comments after 3 years, that’s what I call dedication! Keep up the great work
Thank you very much!!
I run out of gas on my HARLEY DAVIDSON at a Walmart and bought a can of Coleman fuel and run it just long enough to get to the nearest station, it didn't hurt my engine one bit
Nice! Glad it did the job!
Harley's have a low compression ratio wouldn't try it on a higher compression bike.
Just curious, what was the temp outside?
Harbor Freight needs to start sponsoring your videos.
LOL! Yes, I've spent quite a bit at HF to produce videos.
Whenever my dad is in the states I ask him to swing by harbor freight and pick up some bits that are way more expensive here in the UK
westinghouse too, haha
Nah, lack of sponsorship keeps the bias down.
Harbor Freight's slogan should be "We have the tools you didn't know you needed".
Alkanes (saturated hydrocarbons) by number of Carbon atoms contained within them:
C1. Methane
C2. Ethane
C3. Propane
C4. Butane
C5. Pentane
C6. Hexane
C7. Heptane - n-Heptane is used as the "0" point in the Octane rating standard.
C8. Octane - This is where "Octane rating" comes from, but they actually use 2,2,4-Trimethylpentane (an isomer of n-Octane) to derive the 100 Octane rating. n-Octane has a crap Octane rating because it's a long, flappy molecule rather than a tightly bundled molecule like 2,2,4-Trimethylpentane.
C9. Nonane
C10. Decane
C11. Undecane
C12. Dodecane
C13. Tridecane
C14. Tetradecane
C15. Pentadecane
C16. Hexadecane (a.k.a. Cetane) - This is where "Cetane number" comes from with respect to the diesel fuel rating.
You get the idea. It keeps going on until very high numbers!
Hope you get well soon. Take it easy man.
This is great information. You are very good with chemistry! Thanks for commenting.
I always laugh at Nonane and have wanted there to be a yesane for awhile now.
Ari Lunarium
C12.5 Don'tdecane.
Jim Griffiths have to give you a like for all your work
OK, where is the NOVA-CANE ;-) I'm feeling a bit numb ! Thanks for the petrol info ! J K
Your channel has really taught me a lot about small engines I’m am 15 and I love tinkering with small engines I know you spend a lot to run this channel and I would just like to say thank you
zackery d it's kind of nice to know that people around my age still enjoy stuff like engines and aren't afraid to get their hands greasy, you know.
I found this channel trying to figure out witch was better to use on my ATVs marvels mystery oil or seafoam
Thanks for the positive comment!
As a April fools joke, make a video about running proper gas in an engine and be really surprised on how well it works. I think that would be funny.
LOL! Thank you for this recommendation.
Or you could really blow some minds and throw some tide pods in water and just bubble air through it to make it look like you're running the engine on tide pod fumes, all with proper gas in the tank.
Lol use maple syrup
Honey, why do your pancakes taste like crap today ? A weird oily drip in the syrup ? J K
green bean hi
About 30 years ago a friend and I went deer hunting and we forgot to get gas on the way to deer camp we ended up putting a gallon of Coleman fuel in the tank and was able to get to the gas station without any problems.
Nice! Glad it did the job!
Yep about 30 years on a fishing trip coming back and the only gas station was closed. The Coleman fuel got us home.
daniel jonhson I used it as an Octane
Booster in my Sons Raceing Dirt Bike with Great Results 👍
I know you are not you're self in this video, but you keep going just to make us happy!! You are one of a kind!! Thank you again!!!
You are welcome!
I remember 40 or so years ago my dad using it with mix oil in a chain saw.
Worked fine to cut us out of the camp property,after a storm dropped some trees,and blocked us in.
Glad it got the job done!
When I was in my teens my brother used to bring home acetone. I ran that in lawnmower and go cart engines when they were hard to start with gasoline They ran just fine with the acetone and never failed me.
Vee Cee I got stuck in outer space one time and had some hydrogen peroxide and potatoes on hand. I sliced the potatoes which act as a catalyst in the decomposition of the hydrogen peroxide. I put the potatoes and hydrogen peroxide in a water bottle, screwed the cap down, drilled a hole in the cap big enough to put an air hose into, and used it as a thruster which created enough force to slowly push me back into orbit where I eventually ended up in free fall for about 18 minutes and landed safely in a stack of hay. True story
@@TheNuclearBolton You really should have posted this on the main comment page. Putting it here is like throwing treasure into the trash
Acetone will destroy plastics, rubber,gaskets...
Awesome channel. This is the 5th video of yours I've watched today! I can tell you put a lot of time and effort into these. Thanks and you earned a subscriber. Off to watch more!
Thank you!
Hope that cold you have clears up .. thanks for another great video !!!!
Thank you!
He's fine, probably just not running on a recommended fuel lol
Yea I felt bad watching this video i hope he is doing better now!!!! Great videos!!!
Years ago we had an emergency situation where we ran a 1956 Cadillac on camp fuel. That engine loved premium gasoline. On the camping fuel the engine pinged like crazy. Fortunately the gas station was two miles away where the car got back on a proper diet of premium leaded gasoline.
Thank you for the feedback
Two miles away is a stroll, not an emergency.
The Caddy had not been driven for a while. We let the fuel level drop very low (OK - our fault). We got a call that an elderly relative had been admitted to the hospital emergency room. We had no time for a leisurely stroll. The elderly relative died.
You were so sick during this video, I can hear it in your voice.. hats off to you for even making the video!
Excellent videos!
Thank you!
Really good demo. I respect that you are so into your engine science that you 'went out and bought a generator' for this! That generator sure starts readily and sounds good.
For my work, I commission and troubleshoot Caterpillar diesel and natural gas powered generators for the oil and gas industry. Ours are 'small' if they are less than 1 MW (1000 kilowatts) LOL!
I expected the Coleman white gas fuel would be fine for these engines. It is actually very similar to the original gasoline formulations back in the early days. The compression ratio is low enough that the octane rating would not be an issue.
It would be a good comparison to see if the Coleman fuel provided a longer or shorter run time per tank than gasoline (with same load). Also would be interesting to see what the frequency was with each fuel, as well as the actual throttle plate angle. These factors will tell you exactly how close the engine is to "giving all it has." With the natural gas (spark ignited) engines I work on, the control system will warn you if the throttle plate gets too far open, since this signifies the engine is taking in all the air/fuel it can and is not able to keep up with the load demand.
Hope your voice recovers soon. :)
Great comments--very informative. I wish I would have tested fuel efficiency. I'll do that in future videos on alternative fuels.
I'm still recovering from the flu. Thanks again!
Sounds good, and will keep listening out for the new videos!
We really gotta hand it to him here --- this is one determined dude to still crank out this video even when he was hoarse and stuffed up! On of the main reasons I like watching these videos is to see this dude's pleasant caring demeanor and hear his strong cheery voice.
Thanks for watching.
I was at Yosemite and forgot to fill up before I went into the park. The last day of our vacation I realized I didn't have enough gas to get to the first gas station outside the park so I bought 2 gallons of Coleman white gas and dumped it in the tank. My dad told me this trick.
Some guy from Germany also needed enough gas to get out of the park so he followed my lead and put 2 gallons in his rental.
I continued driving this dodge van until the third transmission blew up at 250,000 miles.
Glad this worked!
100 low lead is airplane gas. It's close to car gas
@@davidparsons9167 , just dry ..........we used to put aviation fuel in our motorcycles as they ran stronger when racing . But then we were known to dissolve moth flakes in a glass jug before adding it to the tank to boost octane too . In each case we added MMO though to keep things ' wet ' . Used naphtha fuel in some old model planes which never gave any problems back in the day . Understand some of those ' 3rd world countries ' frequently in the news nowadays are experimenting with naphtha as an alternate fuel as it burns so much cleaner plus is a lot cheaper to manufacture . Imagine no multi million dollar computerized control systems or pee in a tank too get emissions down . Could that be possible ? ? ? ? ? LOL ! Those planes were back in the day before 'remote ' and were flown with control lines attached to the plane . Guess this means we were ahead of our time ? ? ? LOL ! Probably not . I'm so old I don't need something to be complicated to work better myself so more power to them . Course I till have a '86' 4 runner that has on numerous occasions been the go to vehicle when the other 3 vehicles ( $210,000 ) worth of modern crap won't run . Was higher but I got rid of the GMC Denali when the engine self destructed due to a DOD efficiency designed failure . . . . .went belly up . I bought a V8 because I needed a V8 and if I'd wanted six cyl. or four cyl . I'd have bought one . As far as saving gas goes a few miles per gallon would have been welcome when the engine costs around $5000.00 . Then it failed miles from home . . . .transport, and replacement labor, rental and hotel room costs . . . . . . Didn't see any savings to my way of thinking . Will never own another GM vehicle as I thought that idiocy ended when it was a failure on Cadillacs back in the early eighties . Now some form is in about every automotive V8 made regardless the manufacturer . Guess dependability isn't a prerequisite when economy ( manufacturer profit ) is involved ? Oh I gave that Denali POS away for scrap . 52,000 mi. . . .Yup it was fuel efficient . . . . . . . Had an '73' Olds 88 that got better mileage , oh it had a V8 that ran on all eight all . . . . .the . . . . .time . Waiting for the 'order ' to ride bicycles being mandatory to save air .
Can you do e85 tests?! And e85 mix, we're supposed to be able to mix it and use it in any engine...?!
Thank you for this recommendation.
E85 has a 9:85:1 stoch rating compared to 14:1 for gasoline and that means gasoline with no Ethanol “Lol e10 is very common out west and why people like me hate their ass 91” regardless without the proper tuning the engine will run like ass and very rich but e85 is also corrosive and burns 700° colder
I run my lawn mower on e85, typical cold starts are a problem but doesnt feel any lower on power and the smell give me inspiration to work on the track car after
I was always told u can run on 100% e85, but it's better to mix, and only 10-25%
Seinfeld4029 1) e85 doesn’t burn completely on cold starts and as a result the vehicle will run like ass and on my coyote 2014 Mustang gt it will idle surge as a result, further more since the fuel isn’t burning completely it goes past the oil rings and contaminates the oil. This is why guys like me do a wot pull a day to burn off any fuel in the oil and do early oil changes
2) e85 is 105-108 octane it will run very very good with high compression
Man I just wanna say I appreciate the time you put into this it’s cool to watch your like a scientist sorta kids that watch this learn a lot about how to test things and it’s really interesting to watch thanks!
Thank you very much!
Great video! I always wondered about coleman fuel. On these gas alternative videos, it would be nice to see a runtime comparison on equal amounts of fuel. So we can see if the alternative is more or less efficient than gas.
Hope you feel better soon!
Thank you for this recommendation and thanks for wishing me a quick recovery.
Never heard of Coleman fuel until today. Thanks for the Introduction!
Thank you!
Amazing I'm in a pinch and only have some camp fuel and now mower gas. Best quality on RUclips.
Thanks! Thanks for sharing.
Wow this stuff worked incredibly well.
Thank you
Actually I never thought about the old Coleman fuel in one of these tests, man I remember that stuff from when I was a kid ( I'm not saying how old I am but I am part of McDonalds Adopt A Geezer program ) Whoever suggest this to try out, it's a pretty neat idea because where cant't you find the Coleman fuel. I never would have thought of this as an emergency fuel source, I am surprised it did so well. Man you sure sound under the weather, I hope you feel better soon. Thanks for doing this while you are under the weather.
Thank you for the positive comment and for wishing me a speedy recovery. I'm getting better. Thanks again.
Do you remember White Gas pump at the little marinas at small fishing lakes? I think it was actually early unleaded gas, since lead would clog tiny holes in mantle lanterns, and I think it would gum up some outboard motors, the type you didn't mix gas and oil like a 2-cycle. Hell I'm old enough for the adopt-a tombstone program!!!
When I was a teenager I was broke and found this on sale for 1.99 a can. So I bought 17 cans and put it in my 90 Jeep Cherokee and it ran fine. Only did it the one time though. Love all your videos.
Nice! Thank you
I run Coleman fuel in my roofing lift as you said it's don't go bad . And for the two strokes I found this stuff from Home Depot called tru fuel its pre mixed 2 stroke and it comes a few mixtures and it got a longer shelf life than pump gas. And like you said it's a few dollars more but I think it's worth it
Thanks for the information on tru fuel.
do you use a octane boster in the two cycle mix
Hi Commander and I vote YES! When a product called Tru-fuel came out which is a non-ethanol based 2 and 4-cycle canned fuel a buddy of mine said it smelled like Coleman stove gas with synthetic 2-cycle oil added. Runs about $7 a quart here. Hope all is well and my Coleman's run just as good off of hi-test pump gas as the Coleman stuff. One is a 'dual-fuel' that says it'll run off either and folks here used to run Amaco unleaded gas for camping stuff fuel for years.
Hi Lewie, I always enjoy reading your comments. Always very informative. I had the flu but I'm getting better. Thanks again!
I was going to say you sounded croupy but glad for the healing! Years ago when the Saw Surgeon was running the saw shop before he got his own, his yearly Stihl recertification course instructor said that pump gas had a 90 day shelf life before it started breaking down Coleman or Tru-fuel has an unopened shelf life of 3 years and opened life of 2. Not bad odds in my book.Be healthy and stay warm. I hear the grass blades talking to themselves whenever the sun comes out. You won't be dead-heading long!
I was just wondering if coleman camp stuff would run on gasoline too. Cool.
Jason, I don't know what additives pump gas has compared to Coleman fuel. I have a camp stove of theirs that's labeled a 'duel fuel' job. I know Amoco white gas was used in everything years ago so seeing that everything is unleaded now, it ought to work. I'll use it if the need arises in a second but I'd use Hi-test. Gas is nothing like it used to be.
On most Coleman appliances that are not "Duel Fuel" they will operate but the additives will gum everything up. Royal pain in the arse to clean up.
Project Farm Guy... The ONLY guy on YT who can film a lawnmower in slo-mo, set it to music and make it a compelling watch....
Thanks for watching!
You sound a little sick in the video. If you are I hope you get better!
Yes, I think I had the flu. I still feel like I'm "running a quart low". Thanks!
Gonna say the same, here in caw lee for nea, we got that all over. I could see the pain in your eyes! Feel the burn... Of a fever. Get well!
Feel better soon man, I got to say I'm impressed that you are still doing the video
Project Farm it's going around I'm struggling through the flu currently
I was thinking the same thing. Kudos to you for powering through. Don't forget to get plenty of rest tho. Hope you feel better soon.
Awesome videos. I learn sooo much! When they're older, I'd love to send my sons to work for you on your farm for free just so they could learn some of your skills in return. Great work.
Thank you!
Great job offering your children as unpaid servants. Maybe be a real man and learn some skills to teach your sons yourself. Or better yet, use a fucking condom next time.
Coleman gas has one of the coolest looking flames when you light it and I'm glad it translated to the see thru engine. Looked so awesome
Hahaaa, a true mechanic, working with the flu!
LOL! Yes, the flu hit me hard, but I'm not one for laying around.
I hope your still working now with this scamdemic hanging around.
another great video bro. keep them coming, mabye try "gun scrubber" Its a solvent comes in an aerosol can for cleaning guns. But is also very flammable
Thank you for this recommendation and thanks for the positive comment!
Project Farm to be more specific, the brand BALLISTOL. Easily obtainable from Amazon for about $10-$15 for a large aerosol can. Extremely flammable/low flash point. That would make for an excellent video. I would even sponsor the Ballistol for you if you'd like. I also believe they come in non aerosol cans, which would be more practical (like the trouble you had in the WD40 video).
I seen my dad test this 30 years ago when he ran out of gas. I like how you mounted the generator to old mower frame. I have mine strapped to a pallet at all times so I can just move is easily with my tractors bucket forks.
Thanks for the feedback.
From early 1960's through 1975, I spent summers camping with my parents. We camped cross country twice back then. My job was to clean & refuel all Coleman lanterns & stove during the day. And replace lantern mantles as needed. We would drive to the local American Oil Company gas station (now called Amoco) to fill our fuel cans with premium fuel commonly referred to as white gas. It was crystal clear fuel, no color at all. It's octane rating was 102. It was the most expensive fuel you could buy for your car at gas stations. That 102 octane performed rather well. If it was a day or 2 before payday, you might buy a couple bucks of the cheap stuff (96 octane). Yes, the engine performed very well on white gas & the spark plugs were clean when you pulled them. We only paid between 40-50 cents per gallon back then. Oh, I recall those days so well. Wishing I still had my 66 Chevelle with a 396/325 & 4 barrel carb. Now, if you wanted the maximum performance you could get from a gas can, you went to the local "air field" and bought 120 octane aviation fuel. A couple 5 gal cans of 120 octane & you were ready for a Friday evening at the local straightaway. Flip the air cleaner cover over (upside down) so your engine can suck the air straight into the filter. Retard your timing back close to zero and you were ready. My brother would take the air filter assembly completely off his car. When he pulled a hole shot, his engine would suck some of the fiberglass packing from under the hood & blow flames out the exhaust. Oh, you got flames & you've got everyone's attention. You kids today have no clue what you missed.
And yes, the engine ran better on Coleman fuel. And even better on Amoco Premium. But a 50/50 mix of American Oil Co White Gas and aviation fuel delivered the best performance. And we used to wonder why our engines didn't last more than 60,000 miles back then. The price of having fun.
From my experience, lawn mower engines ran only a little better on Coleman fuel or white gas. The lower compression of those flathead engines didn't offer much performance increase. The compression had to be kept low, so you could pull the recoil starter to start the engine.
Great feedback. Thank you
Knocked a small hole in my dune buggies tank in the mountains and after patching it with a screw and rubber gasket was able to drive out of Smoky mountains on a gallon of moonshine.
Yeah you didn't
If you'd have drank it you wouldn't have cared about getting out of the mountains.
Hey man, thats awesome!
@Vee Cee read it again, he knocked a hole in the tank, making the fuel spill out
Usually don’t have molecular sieves, dry drying agents traps, or expensive organic special glassware. I have run heavy pure ethanol, but it was solvent grade chemical pure, or removed water. Will burn! I’ve never went 100% what was difference if noticed, power, temp, air cooled? Nobody carries or rarely knows how to remove H20. It’s feasible, fuels often trap water. Non polar organics. Ethanol is poisoned by thieves who enslave us, Nobody’s making moonshine in purest possible, without removal of water, still can run. Expensive, not best thing to bath brain in, flammable liquids. Was like 8-9 liter at time bulk. Moonshine Et-oh trust person, must cost something or why bother. Screw and gasket? Make video!
this is so funny... when you watch one of your current videos and then this it really shows how far youve come in all aspects of making these videos. what an awesome look back at the channel
Wow, thank you!
These test would be awesome on a car engine. Hopefully one day you can get a cheap junk car and run test on it
Thank you for this recommendation.
I'll second this . Would love to see tests in a car engine
Cheap junkyard engines yesss. I would also like to see this. Would like to see the kinds of codes and lights that's come up
An old flathead v8 lol. Atleast the head comes off easily
yeah that would be awesome to see!
high octane unleaded... i used American white gas( 102 oct.) back when American stations were around.
Thank you for this recommendation.
you can get 109 octane gas at the stores near a drag strip its 8 dollars a gallon in nc or it was last i got some
By far one of the most interesting video series on RUclips for those that are intrigued by combustion engines and experimenting with them. Or who just like watching what one can get away with putting into an engine to see what it will do. It's awesome. And the slow-mo see through cylinder head shots..mesmerizing. Great job on the videos sir. 👍
Thank you!
Avgas and proper mothballs in car gas. You marked Coleman fuel off my list.
Thank you for this recommendation.
Avgas will just cause it to run rough. The timing would have to be advanced a hell of a lot.
jerrywh3
Interesting. I have to raise the fuel pressure on my turbobike to run it so retarded timing occurs.
jerrywh3
Ok. Timing on my turbobike isn't adjustable. It hates Avgas until I add more fuel which delays the combustion event. Retarding timing. My 67 Mustang 289 loves it as setup already. I would love to see the effect on the lawnmower engine just to know. That's the reason I brought it up. New Avgas smells different than it did 2 years ago.
LOL speaking of avgas, my bro-inlaw who was a pilot in the 70s used to fill his car up with avgas at the little airport because it was cheaper and easy to get right there, I don't remember it running any differently, but I sort of remember his son worked on it and found the plugs were all caked up with a white residue or something, probably additives for AIRPLANE engines that didn't burn out well in a car engine.
I was told to store my engine s in Coleman fuel over the winter when I put them up for the season sense then I have never had a problem with them I was told thy don't put varnish in the fuel that's what always hardens in the carburetor over the winter and always stops it up there has to be some thing to it because I've been doing the store them in Coleman fuel for at least 25 years over the winter a d some I've stored for three years and never had to clean a carburetor sense the trick is to run them completely out dry then put some Coleman fuel in it and run it long enough to make sure it's all that is in the carburetor then your good for at least the winter season the man that told me about it was sent to north Alaska in the army to do research on motor readiness for motors that were setting in very cold conditions he told me that's were he learned about storing them in Coleman fuel instead of regular gasoline he told me to add regular gasoline to run it after I stored it he also said thy tested some that was stored for five years and never had any problems out of them started and run fine but he did say to add regular fresh gasoline because it's got addatiff to protect the motor valve s in the motor I worked on a farm for 15 years and we stored some things for a couple of years at the time in it thy never gave any problems when we got them back in service I would just fill them up with fresh gasoline and go to work with them thanks for talking about the Coleman fuel so I'm not the only one using it to store my stuff when I'm not using it over the winter season
I don't know why i don't ever just check here first. You always have the answers. Thanks
You are welcome!
I'm betting Todd has a whole barn full of engines he's used in earlier videos! lol It probably smells like the world's weirdest gas station in there
LOL! Yes, I have a barn with quite a collection of old mowers and even some that haven't been tested yet.
What did i miss and how do you know his real name?
@@loganbarrell9283 Everyone on the farm is named Todd. Didn't you know?
I could have saved you the time. When I was a teenager I ran out of gas in my car, and all I had was a gallon of coleman. Put that in there and got me 10 miles away to the gas station.
Thanks for sharing this experience. Glad this worked for you!
Few guys up here used white gas mixed with oil to get home from camp on snowmobiles. It works when it's mixed right. Got home a few hours later than expected but we made it back to town before the blizzard.
Thank you for commenting on this!
Todd
Do you have a cold? You don't sound the same! Another excellent video keep them coming. Love the predator stuff . I have the largest generator from Harbor freight and it's been great! What state are you located in?
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General Repair
Yes, I had the flu but I'm getting better. I live in Missouri, close to Kansas City. The generator sure seems like a great value. Thank you!
I think it would be interesting to see a see through combustion chamber on a small Diesel engine.. that would be something there..
Thank you for this recommendation.
Would be stupidly difficult considering how a diesel engine works
I find your videos to be very informative and educational, sometimes even comical. I've also used them to make decisions on purchases and to help friends. Keep up the good work.
Try e85
Thank you for this recommendation.
How about converting a lawnmower to run on propane?
Thank you for this recommendation.
how about searching for videos of that? there are loads out there, many people have done it. hell, I did it myself about 10 years ago.
I have personally used Coleman gas in a 2001 Honda Passport, 3.2 v-6. I was stuck on a trail, heading home from a camping trip. I had about 2 gallons of camping fuel, put it into my Honda, and was able to make it safely home.
The engine ran normally on the trail, and on the highway. I didn't notice any adverse short or long term effects. And had many years of great driving after the incident.
Thanks for sharing.
Propane. Hook up a propane tank.
Thank you for this recommendation.
Propane is used everyday in fork trucks, cars, trucks, generators and even cutting torches.
Propane carbs are readily available to add to any small engine. I'm rebuilding a golf kart of sorts with an 18hp engine and giving it the either or carb so I can run it on what I have at the time. Its a toy for my kids to go about on the farm...
I have a generator I purchased that is designed to run on gasoline or propane and it works great especially with my camper since I have two propane tanks onboard so one can be used for the generator and the other can be used for all the propane operated equipment on the camper. I also gave my old snowblower to a buddy of mine, and he converted it to burn propane. It gave him great service over the winter and was very efficient on fuel.
I converted my Honda generator to run on gasoline or propane or natural gas. When I use it for backup power after power outage in gulf coast due to storm I use NG because everyone wants gasoline and with power outage the pumps are often down. NG is always there so no rushing around looking for gas. Engine runs very cleanly and no worries about old gas etc.
By the way, the “”shelf life” of modern gasolines is about TWO YEARS, depending on its composition.
It’s NOT just a few months!
Danny More
There is no chemical reason for an ethanol-containing gasoline to deteriorate any faster than non-ethanol-containing gasoline.
As long as any gasoline is stored in an air-tight container at “room temperature”, it will retain its proper qualities for years.
Couple months for ethanol learn that the hard way
@@joewrosenthal00
The shelf life of 10% ethanol gas is much shorter!
Trend Investor
Why do you think that? Is the shelf life of vodka-ethanol and water-shorter than two years?
If the ethanol-gasoline mixture is kept sealed, it will be stable for at least two years.
The “unstable” components are olefins-present in nearly all gasoline’s.
@@joewrosenthal00
I believe that because of my research and my own personal experiences. Here is just a small bit of my research that I came across:
"Ethanol-blended gas lasts up to three months.
According to the U.S. Energy Information Administration, most gasoline sold in the U.S. is “E10” gas made of 90 percent petroleum-based gas and 10 percent ethanol (ethyl alcohol). Ethanol-blended gas usually has a shelf life of up to three months because of the high speed at which ethanol oxidizes. Because ethanol is hydrophilic (a.k.a., water-loving), it will also readily absorb any water or humidity in a sealed container resulting from condensation, causing both moisture contamination of the fuel and the eventual separation of the fuel into distinct gas and ethanol layers. Generally, the higher the ethanol content in the gas, the shorter its shelf life, so E15 (15 percent ethanol content), E20 (20 percent ethanol), or E85 (85 percent ethanol) gas will expire sooner than E10 gas will."
Yes it will. I've done it. Ran out of gas on my way home from a hunting trip. But had almost 2 gallons of white gas. Got me to the gas station. Drove that rig for many years after.
Thanks for sharing this experience.
Did you ever try to power gasoline engines with 100% ethanol?
Thank you for the video idea!
Ever heard of the TFA class in Drag Racine? Top Fuel Alcohol. Ethanol has been used for years in (off-road) racing engines. ;-) It's extremely dangerous! It burns with a blue flame that you cannot see! People have been seriously burned and never even knew they were on fire until the pain started. So no @Project Farm, not a good idea.
@@ProjectFarm Bad idea and extremely dangerous.
Sounds like you are running too lean, you need more fuel.
Yes, the flu hit me hard. I definitely feel as though I'm running low!
Project Farm Take care !
My father ran out of gas on the way back from a camping trip.
He used what was left of the Colman fuel to get to the gas station. (Probably 5 mi or so.)
Up and down small hills. Very little power, lots of knocking, but he got there. No apparent damage and had the car for a few more years.
Thanks for sharing this experience.
Battery acid
Motor Head this would be fun to see haha
Thank you for this recommendation.
Won't work. It's mostly H2SO4 and H2O which are not flamable
I have used white gas in a 2 stroke trimmer that had set over the winter and varnished up. Run a tank of Coleman through it and it's all cleaned up. Then back to the proper mix. I like your tests.
Thank you for the feedback.
Man, I have to tell you, I really appreciate your channel.......Your experiments and head to head tests are some of the best bar none.....
Thank you!
Coleman fuel is one of my recommendations, I knew it would be up there with gasoline. It's a far side cleaner than pump gas. It also does not have the toxic aromatics that are used as cheap octane improvers by oil companies like toluene, (paint thinner) xylene, (paint thinner) benzene, (a toxic carcinogen) and mesitylene (another nasty piece of work) especially with high octane pump gasoline and avgas.
Coleman fuel mixed with ethanol is an outstanding fuel, we've tried it and it is virtually odorless, it's even cleaner again.
Keep up the good work with these videos, I like no BS unbiased experiments and tests.
Good stuff.
All great points and thanks for the positive comment!
I've always wondered if Coleman fuel would work in a pinch. I'm SO GLAD you did this video! Thanks!
Thank you!
@Project Farm I noticed that you sounded sick and I was concerned, then I realized that the video was more than two years old and I was relieved. Good video I used Colman fuel once in my 1971 Plymouth Fury 3. I was on a camping trip and left my car in the woods for ten days and someone stole most of my gas. The Coleman fuel got me (just) to a gas station. I've wondered if a modern car would have a problem with it, I don't think it would.
I really like how this channel is getting better and better. Now you clean the engines, show the spark plug, and now you use a generator to test an engine under load (I really like that idea, as it's likely much more consistent than using the engine brake, which isn't even designed for that). Keep up the good work
Thank you very much!
My father and I did the exact opposite for years. when we took the scouts camping instead of purchasing Coleman fuel we just purchased regular unleaded fuel which had just come on the market at the time. That's what we put in our lanterns, in our cook stoves, everything else like our tent heater etc.
Thanks for sharing.
Before I retired from camping, I used to use unleaded gasoline in my portable Coleman stove because it was a lot cheaper than Coleman fuel. Worked great. Never had a problem with it.
Thank you!
Ran out of gas in my scooter when I was a kid... Coleman fuel worked in a pinch. Gasoline will last significantly longer sealed in an airtight metal container. Oxygen and moisture are two of the big culprits when it comes to bad fuel. Gasoline should never be stored in plastic for long periods of time. The lighter ends of the fuel leach out through the plastic. This can be seen clearly noting the fuel level month to month. Thanks for the great tests and videos.
All great information. Thanks for commenting.
Just found your channel a couple of weeks ago. Back in the early 70's was deer hunting with my Dad in southern MO. On the way home we hit a nasty snow storm during the night. We ended up running out of gas. My dad poured 2 gallons of Coleman fuel in the tank and we drove to the next open gas station. I remember the car was pinging a lot so we drove slower than normal to the gas station. Coleman fuel will work in an emergency. BTW great channel!
Thanks so much! Thanks for sharing.
In an emergency situation where Coleman fuel was the only fuel I had, I would run it in an engine. Thanks for this great video, I really enjoy the experiments and tests you perform in your videos, keep'em coming! :)
Thank you!
I've actually done it before. got me to the gas station
I have used and am using 5 yr. old white gas in my push mower after running out of gas and i would be surprised to find that this is not a better fuel than the crap at the stations these days. Thanks for the informative video
You are welcome! Thanks for sharing.
My dad many years ago only used white gas in his outboards. Mixed with oil and poured through a shammy to remove any water. These were the days of a 3.5 horsepower Sears to his 7.5 hp Champion. He never had carb problems
Thanks for sharing.
Unlike most of your videos I knew the answer this time. Sept 1996 NC was hit by Hurricane Fran and the eastern half of the state had no electrical power from the coast all the way to Greenville. I owned a Suzuki Samurai at the time and used up most of the fuel I had in it trying to get to a place with no trees. Where I lived outside of Raleigh the loblolly pines were everywhere and that night was snapping like match sticks. The next morning I was almost on E and had no idea how far I would have to drive to find electricity. I remember as a boy my dad telling me I could use it in a pinch. Well this was just that pinch. I dumped my 2 gallons into the tank and headed west. That little 4 banger knocked and pinged the whole trip but it got me to civilization where I could buy gas. I don't recall who had the longest lines though...the gas station or the McDonald's next door. Love your vids man.
Thanks! Thanks for sharing!
You must go through a TON of small-engine head-gaskets! (let alone engines!) Thanks for all your time in creating all these videos!
LOL! Yes I do. Thank you!
I have built sevral dozen engines In my life for muscle cars and I'm always amazed at what u can get that engine to run off of things that I woulda bet 100 bucks would never make an internal combustion engine fire!! Love your vids!!
Thank you!
A buddy of mine ran out of gas one time and we used the white gas I had in my truck for my camp stove to get him to the gas station right down the road. As said in the video, I wouldn't use it long term but it does work in a pinch. Same thing goes for running gasoline in a white gas stove or lantern. It can be done, however it burns dirtier and can leave deposits and clog up your equipment faster. I have also heard of using a still of sorts to make white gas from gasoline, which would be much cheaper than buying it in a can.
Glad it helped him!
My dad always used Coleman Fuel in our mowers during the 60's-70's. Basically to use up the the camp fuel from year to year. I don't recall having any problems.
Thank you!
This was an interesting turn out... didn’t expect it to be that close. Still look forward to the slo-mo and ambient tunes ; ) just adds a bit of wonder to the mundane. One of the more beautiful burns I’ve seen.
I thought of a few notes as a viewer:
• I was about to suggest ways you could make the lawnmower a more repeatable/measurable load test, by adding a constant load with your bearing tester. Or maybe even a beam/dial torque wrench and a weight. However, a new friend arrives! ...and has built-in repeatable constant load testing sockets!
• Now, for measuring the generator, I’m wondering if an rpm reader would be a beneficial tool in comparing fuels and evaluating their effect on the engine power output, under load?
• At the end of the lawn mower run, you showed how long the fuel lasted... I realize repeating this with accuracy would be difficult and add numerous steps, like specific load, and duration, fuel amount, etc. However, it would be helpful to compare that time with other fuels, and interesting to see where Coleman falls in the stack.
O, outside of throwing a still frame up [which has turned into an ordeal for me in some of my editing] a link in the DB or a pinned comment is useful for us fone viewers that can’t tell what the adapter you were holding looks like, or whether similar things of a similar size at a similar camera angle would be a useful add for a similar toolbox.
Man, thank you for taking the time and effort to put these together, and helping us infrequent commenters feel like we can make a difference.
These are all great recommendations--thank you!
I worked for a chemical company some years ago. A tanker would come in and unload part of his load, and then deliver the rest to Coleman. What he delivered to them was VM&P ("Varnish Makers & Painters") naphtha. I was told by the driver that they would fill the cans with it, and nothing else. Also, made great cigarette lighter fluid.
Thanks for sharing
I was riding my motorcycle across country from San Diego to Tampa in 1973 (after I got out of US Navy). I ran out of gas in N Florida, 200 miles away from home. A nice couple in an RV stopped and sold me 3 gallons of Coleman fluid, which was just enough to get me home. In 1973, I think I gave them $5.00 for 3 gallons. (This was just prior to the Middle East crude embargo, and gas was still 27 cents per gallon.)
Wow! I'm glad this worked!
First, I want to say your music selections are perfect. The music fits the theme of what you’re demonstrating.
I always wondered about Coleman fuel. As a kid, my family camped a lot, always using white gas, with no lead. All gasoline for cars was leaded then, and apparently the lead and additives would clog the jets and orifices in Coleman stoves and lanterns. I think I have half a gallon maybe of old, old Coleman fuel in the shed. I guess I could safely get rid of it by putting in a nearly full tank in my EcoBoost car.
Thank you!
Heard this rumor for a long time, glad you validated it could work!!!
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Another great video,I was surprised to see all the chemicals in the coleman fuel.I used to hang out at a standard gas station 1961 and 62 they had white gas and was supposed to be gasoline that didn't have lead in it. It was used for coleman type lanterns. Thanks for your videos.
Thank you!
Thank you sir!!! It sounded like you are not feeling well must of been a struggle to do this video although it did not show in the video quality as usual. I was surprised the engines ran as well as they did i really didn't notice any ping or knock at all Hope you get to feeling better. Take care of yourself. Have a great day!!! God Bless
Thank you very much and God Bless you and yours as well.
Great test. I would have guessed it cleaned the engine better than regular gas, but it really didn't do much as an engine cleaner. I'd like to see how clean an engine runs on propane. Had a friend that said his farm truck's oil was always pristine with the propane conversion.
Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.
A lawn mower for no apparent reason. You've got a great sense of humor, man!
lol. Thank you