A321neo Groundings, Bad News At Southwest & A320neo Delivery
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- Опубликовано: 23 май 2024
- Southwest has been forced to announce several route cancellations and airport departures following ongoing 737 MAX delivery delays. Furthermore, Hawaiian Airlines Airbus A321neos grounded by the Pratt & Whitney GTF engine crisis are set to return to service in the coming weeks. Lastly, Condor has taken delivery of its first Airbus A320neo as it continues to modernise the fleet and retire A320ceo jets.
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Southwest made it's own bed. They had the power to tell Boeing to design and build a new aircraft with a clean sheet of paper as the biggest operator of 737's. They took the short sighted Max because Southwest did not want to pay the bill for training a new aircraft type and operating 2 types of aircraft for decades.
Not to defend them but Boeing said yes to that demand too instead of saying no and why
It seems you have a distorted concept of the power of the airlines. Yes, they can let the aircraft manufacturers know what their desires are, but they do NOT have the power to TELL an aircraft manufacturer WHAT to build. That would be like you going to McDonalds and tell them what kind of burger you want. You pick from their menu with some modifications to the possible selections. Airlines can do the same with interiors and some options, but that's it.
To a large extent they can actually tell manufacturers WHAT to build. A case in point is the A350. It was the airlines that forced Airbus to go back to the drawing board Abe come up with a clean sheet design.
@@sanandaallsgood673 if you ordered 20% of McDonald's burgers I'm absolutely certain they'd let you choose what type of burger you want. Just sayin
Boeing was at fault to give in to Southwest. Southwest just voiced their intent, can't blame them for that.
active news everyday. tks djjjjj
Thanks for the news updates DJ😊
Great report. Thank you.
Southwest model was to achieve dependable service with one dependable model of plane. It worked for decades.
NOW Greed at Boeing Senior Management/Board has destroyed that model. Then there are now not 346 deaths but 348 with the "suicides" of Whistle Blowers". Boeing Aircraft can be Recovered BUT Boeing Board/Senior Management are ROTTEN TO THE CORE and need to go, NO Compensation and NO Pensions.
It's a higher risk though one could argue. No free lunches.
@@nighttrain1236 You both make good points. Southwest's business model has made for easily interchangeable crew and lower costs due to less time for training on other models of jets. Both the CEOs of RyanAir and EasyJet went to Texas to learn from Southwest before they started their own companies. That acknowledged, if something goes amiss such as the current 737 debacle, then your entire business is at risk. Southwest just announced a quarterly loss which does happen but it was blamed on having to cut flights due to lack of planes and crew so this could be catastrophic for Southwest and RyanAir. Easyjet does not use the 737 variant. To make matters worse for Southwest, the MAX7 shows no signs of being certified and they cannot get enough MAX8s to cover the planes they have to retire.
A specialist is more competitive, until its specialty is no longer working.
So, lower costs for higher risks.
Yes the Southwest model worked very well with the 737-200 through to the 737-800, unfortunately the 737 is like milk, it does have an expiration date, failure for a company to adapt will cause a company to fail
Thanks dj!!
So, how is a $284 million loss from the last quarter be caused by not receiving aircraft that scheduled for the future? This is blaming Boeing again for something that has nothing to do with Boeing. Perhaps someone can educate me.
Southwest lost money because they had another systemwide failure that led to a number of flight cancellations. Also, the FAA has mandated certain payments to passengers for delays and cancellations. Add to that higher fuel costs, increased labor costs, etc
Not all the perils of the airline industry are caused by Boeing, or late delivery of new aircraft. Those things may impact future earnings, not past ones.
Also, aircraft deliveries also require full payments from airlines, so that results in negative financial impact at first before profits are yielded later
What “systemwide failure” do you speak of? You can’t hit goals if you don’t get planes, so yeah, it’s on Boeing.
Dj needs to stay away from money issues plus this is a airbus propaganda channel
@@Spyke-lz2hlUse your Google, my friend, there are a few, including weather related ones. Southwest cancels lots of flights, and when they do they have to pay passengers.
One can argue that some may be related to not having aircraft to operate some routes, but profit/loss is based on revenue minus expense. Not having new aircraft can only reduce or increase profits or losses, but these losses are based on Southwest, not Boeing.
@@Spyke-lz2hl Even airbus has the issue of not delivering planes on time so yeah its on them too but their suppliers are slowing them down to deliver planes on time. so yeahh....
@@Dog.soldier1950once you start calling facts propaganda we have a problem. At this point Boeing is the best propaganda airbus can get
Far too many jet engine issues in the last 10 years. Trent 1000 engines on the B787 and now Pratt & Whitney GTF engines on the Airbus planes. Were airliner engines more reliable 20-25 years ago??
And also cars
They are squeezing blood from a turnip in terms of fuel efficency. This made the engines rather delicate.
Achieving financial goals 🤔 heard that before about a MAX.
half of jetblue neos are parked in the desert 😂😂😂
They ordered these neos with the P&W GTF engines which are having problems with functionality and maintenance flaws. Not the fault of Airbus but with Pratt & Whitney. JetBlue could’ve ordered neos with the CFM 1A LEAP engines like Frontier but didn’t.
@@Cerby1979 it's neither Airbus or JetBlue's fault
@@Cerby1979JetBlue could have yes, but in the end this is mostly P&Ws fault, JetBlue can’t predict everything about the future can they now?
Good. Go get those planes, Southwest. See? A You Tube commenter fixed your problem.
@@kaamfinitii What's not their fault?
Southwest wasn't doing good in those markets. Blaming Boeing just is an excuse of their bad management. Lets not forget they had pilot and flight attendant contract issues AND still recovering from their meltdown over a year ago...
Presently the whole aviation industry suffers from the extreme expectations the airlines had in improved engines which were not mature for the market. Things run similarly like in the diesel scandal. The bean counters (lawmakers) expected results exceeding the technical possibilities, and now nothing works. There are fried chickens, but they do not fly in the air.
It’s possible - with diesel as with jet engines. It just costs more money in research, production and / or maintenance.
@@alexanderdekeuyper2990 You did not understand: Economists ignore the technical reality and try to buy immature technology and for salespeople, it is easy to sell immature things too.
@@gottfriedheumesser1994 gottfried; one of your examples was diesel engines - perfectly old and known technology. It is and was possible to get the emission levels lower than required. BMW had adblue in the us Modells, not in the European Modells - an accountant made that decision, not an engineer. The scandal would have been avoidable - at least in Europe - without cheeping out.
And politics set targets to get out of technologies on the long run eg to get to zero or below co2. Fossile fules have no future ;
@@alexanderdekeuyper2990 I did not speak about diesel engines but about the diesel scandal. Learn reading!
The diesel scandal was caused because European lawmakers set limits that could not be reached without additional chemicals, and so the values were faked for the authorities.
@@alexanderdekeuyper2990 'an accountant made that decision' - that's what I wanted to say. Accountants, salespeople, and economists dominate the companies and urge the engineers to produce immature products that can be traded more easily. If I had cars with 1l/100km I would be the best car seller in Europe and its surroundings, but so I am a retired engineer
with not too much income.
That Condor red & white livery is really ugly.
It is. But you'll never forget it!
You think?
Matthausen livery💩
Hopefully condor got extra engines with the new engine option!
Condor is the only airline whose planes make you airsick just looking at them on the ground. That is impressive.
Southwest is not leaving the Houston market. They will continue to fly from Hobby, which handles the majority of their Houston volume. The disadvantage for us is that this change limits the ability to fly a multi-airline trip. (impact on customers connecting through Houston). I live under the approach path to Hobby - the majority of aircraft we see appear to be Southwest. There are also a lot of regional jets from other carriers (Embraer). No reason to panic yet.
The risk of depending on one air craft or one engine.
Southwest acquiring JetBlue might be interesting..
or LATAM as they are a boeing fleet.
no Jetblue hate Boeing.
JetBlue acquiring Southwest would be even more interesting. You think?
@@Perich29 Well, some JetBlue hate Boeing.
Everytime us airlines that have problems
English is not your native language. Or, alternatively, you did not finish the 6th grade.
❤
Delta is still holding on to 757's. Southwest could just hang on to the 737's they are retiring.
Ehh a second Delta 757 landed in BHM Shuttlesworth this week allegedly being retired or stored. There’s one there now without it’s engines and all of the cabin doors open
In these booming economic times we live in today this is deplorable
No grounding of the Leap engine with the Neo
Right. But, grounding of the Leap engine without the Neo. That's even worse.
Why would not having a jet impact whether you can run a route? Don’t they have the older planes anyways? I guess it would make them more money, but still feels like a BS excuse.
watching avgeeks fight over airbus and boeing in the comments is so entertaining
I love the Condor livery.
NEVER plan routes around and dependent upon a new airplane being delivered as scheduled. This sets an airline up for failure.
I flew on Hawiian in March economy class to Kahalui and first class back to Portland. These twin engine narrow bodies are awful!! They have a economy car ride because carbon is too stiff and I was dissapointed to discover first class today is on par with coach in the 70's except for the Booze benifit. Economy is crap!! Hard seats and dirty passengers.
How can you possibly be so grumpy after a trip to Hawaii? Oh, I get it. It is because you are returning to Portland.
Do you really believe Southwest they wanted to do that long time ago
gawd Condor livery is atrocious.
Two weeks ago the ground controller at JFK pointed out the brown-striped Condor plane as “the plane that looks like a beach blanket….” Also heard the red-striped plane called “the candy cane.”
@Pupda Convict Livery!
@@Pupda😂
It may be a bad livery but it is selling airplane seats and it gains Condor more capita. It's actually an eye-opening type of livery.
@@Dan.d649 👍🏿
hey southwest, you gonna have to let go of just using 737s...
Those Condor paint stripes are Gawd awful.
Boeing and airbus should have choice of engine
They both choose to have engines.
Max
Max what?
I couldn't ever see southwest going under but 230+ million a quarter doesn't sound sustainable at all. The public opinion on Boeing aircraft is not good for their situation either. I have a couple flights on them coming up, and even I hope they aren't on a max.
If it is on a MAX, you will be fine. Public opinion has been influenced by the fear mongering news outlets
You can’t count your chickens before they hatch. Extend the life of the 800s until you can do a 1-1.
@@REFEREEMOUSE agreed, but I think they'll be retiring some much older 737-700NG as the 800s are all really new. Some of their 737-700s are about 30 years old.
Why hope that its not going to be a max? it shouldn't be in service if that is the reason
@nickolliver3021 the reason I personally hope it's not a max, while also knowing how safe aviation is generally, is that Boeing is the one causing these problems. So the airline can be doing their best to keep the plane in great shape and it can still fall apart as has been proven now 3 times. It's like getting on the Comet back in the day, you just don't know if it's safe even if you're on the safest airline in the world and that worries me. And I know a good share of aviation info and safety records, so imagine how the general public feels about the bird.
The GTF turned out to be a turd.
At least you did not use the turd emoji. Thanks for that.
Only P&W
Condors hooped colour scheme is the worst ever, why?.
They want you to get airsick while you are still on the ground. The bastards.
I wonder if airlines have been properly advised by their risk managers about boeing...
Maybe not. Perhaps you could give the airlines' "risk managers" a call.
@roberthenry9319
Probably impossible.. one bank did without a risk manager for almost a year as the personnel manager was too busy organising a woke festival.. bank closed due to failure to manage risk of course..
The rapid expansion of the WN route structure during the Pandemic is the main reason why the airline is hurting. Adding MORE routes puts even more strain on a maxed out structure, and the internal political woes with the pilots and flight attendants only made things more daunting. I honestly believe that the airline is better off reducing the number of destinations to fall back on the original point-to-point service rather than relying heavily on the hub-and-spoke. Their announcement of soon operating out of Dallas-Ft. Worth is a HUGE mistake because that will only make things as bad as doing business out of Houston Intercontinental when Houston Hobby is more than sufficient. The 4 destinations they are pulling out of are all redundant operations, minus Cozumel. -shrug- Then again, who really knows what's in store for the airline when all they'd be left with are -800NGs and -8MAXs?
Right. Who knows? You need to get outside more often, hawk.
Southwest’s issues are higher than that - yeah, IAH is redundant to HOU, and ORD to MDW, but in both cases you have business passengers who will fly out of one and not the other because they are so far apart. The bigger issue is that Southwest’s schedules are horrible for business travel, they have no idea how to operate international routes where all the yield is, they are uncompetitive for corporate contracts and always the second place carrier for nonstops to Chicago, Dallas, Houston, San Francisco, but unless you are going nonstop for a day trip business travelers book away from them, their IT structure is horrible they cannot manage to run red eyes, they have no rebooking options for passengers, this all drives away business passengers
Fleet commonality with Boeing is paying handsomely
I like your sarcasm
finally some airbus bad news lol
ENGINE not Airbus And Airline chose engine
Only bad news for Airbus is the fitment of America built engines,
Rolls Royce need to get back into this narrow body market asap
@@r12004rewyalways american products
Can you talk about beregional in your next vid its the new flybe 3.0
Hi there DJ congratulations 🎊 to Airbus for some awesome and safe aircraft hats 🧢 off to them Boeing has lost their way 😊😊😊
Can you just not touch your emoji key? Please?
Buy used 737-800
Cheap, low miles, only one owner, new tires. I'll take it.
Or 727/200
Or md.s
.
So the short version of the story, buy American, loose money
Yes. Americans can be very loose with their money.
Does P & W make ANYTHING worth a damn? Or safe?
The JT8D-9a
Pt6
Yes. Airplane engines. For airplanes.
sounds like southwest needs to call airbus
yeh right
Yes, they should
@@wadehiggins1114 no they should not
@@nickolliver3021 yes they should 😂
@@r12004rewy no they shouldn't 🤣
Maybe it is time for Southwest to move on from the 737 and add the A220-300 to replace the 737-700/7MAX and become the North American launch customer for the A220-500 to replace the 737-800/8MAX. This is not to say that the A220 hasn't also had its problems, but Southwest can no longer rely on Boeing.
This is why JAL is now buying Airbus planes, after being a Boeing buyer for decades.
I think they should go with Cessna.
This Boeing only fleet is dangerous. The problem is this culture of profits over safety at Boeing will last 20 or 30 years 😨😨😭😱
How is an only Boeing fleet dangerous? The whole world runs of profits over safety and will last so many years. scary that this world is coming to an end
Ok. Very ignorant take.
Now do Frontier, Wizz, Spirit, JetBlue……….
Southwest should have kept their 717s 😜😜😜
Only on this discredited channel, would you get a bad news story about the Airbus A321 Neo spun into a bad news rant about Boeing. Pathetic.
Eggs in one basket?
Southwest is getting karma for it's part in the MAX tragedy.
Southwest should just order Airbus jets. 🤦♂️
They may not realize that. Why don't you give them a call?
So Southwest lost money because they couldn't purchase multi-million dollar aircraft. . Makes perfect sense to me.
and those aircraft move hundreds of paying customers several times a day every day. And more aircraft can more move people meaning more income.
They has also hired and trained pilots (and flight attendants) to fill those flights... but now they have excess
Go back to your high school economics teacher and see if he (or she) can straighten this out for you.
So this is basically an L for both the A320neo and the 737 max
Um, no.
The only issue(s) with the NEOs has been with the optional P&W GTF engines, not the airframe itself. The CFM LEAP-powered NEOs have never been grounded and my airline has not only ordered another 85 but we’ve also been buying NEOs second-hand from Virgin America (via Alaska), and similarly to something mentioned in this video, delayed retirement of our oldest ‘buses indefinitely. We’ve had no problems with our NEOs and can’t get enough of them. The “L” here is for Pratt & Whitney - airlines that ordered the NEO with GTFS are generally staying with them for commonality but new orders are mostly LEAPs.
Conversely, with the exception of the recent Alaska Airlines incident, the Boeing MAX problems have been inherent design flaws. Redesign, and as necessary retooling the production lines, is an expensive and time-consuming problem.
Unlike the MAX, the NEO wasn’t grounded; the P&W GTF was. And the airlines all know that.
“L” to Boeing.
But thanks for playing…
@@Pupdaneed to remember that all Boeing fanboys have exhausted arguments...so now their only hope is for airbus to also experience problems so that they can shift from "this is a conspiracy" to "see airbus also has issues"...
What is an "L". Is it really something cool?
Hawaiian 👎
I think Hawaii is beautiful. Nice beaches. Too pricey, though.
Shouldn’t have bought 1950’s junk aircraft then.