Awesome! And yes we appreciate it. Great video, Adam. I have the APR intercooler on my car now, and the IE version in a box, I think I’ll do this same test when I swap.
Out of curiosity why swap from apr to ie? Apr intercooler has shown to hold great even on power levels of the tte710. Also comes with replacement piping and has shown to compete right with Wagners. Just curious on why the swap 🤔. I could understand if you were going from like ecs or cts which have lower performance.
@@headshotharry2313 I’m going to do a couple videos on it for my channel. Also, the IE intercooler has FDS, which should increase the ability to cool. I’d like to see if there is a difference and how much.
@@Vaguh now that's a very good video. Apr vs ie, is cost difference worth it. Also remember to say the apr comes with replacement piping. People will automatically assume ie is better because it's cheaper but doesn't have replacement piping.
Impressive improvement, even with the E85 likely helping to keep the timing higher as well. I imagine the timing improvement would be even higher on a 91/93 tune. I can't wait to upgrade my RS3 intercooler.
The only thing that was hampering the timing advance was the IAT's being too high. I would have to think the improvement would be the same or less on the pump gas tune because the timing advance of the tune isn't nearly as high in the first place.
Final question: it appeared that the clamps that came with the IE intercooler weren't tight enough, and you swapped them out?? I'm having one installed on my Audi next week...do I need to purchase different clamps? If so what size and type?
Great video! I wonder if the larger intercooler restricts airflow to the radiator, it would be interesting to see the oil and coolant temperatures before and after the install. Cheers!
This Right here was a Well needed Video for me and I’m sure for others Audi Fans/Drivers, I Appreciate the Time you take for explaining everything! it’s a coincidence I just installed my IE Intercooler/ CTS Charge Pipe yesterday on my ‘18 SB and did one Pull with that Bottom Clamp Popping right off was so annoying, where/Size did you get those upgrades Clamps? It’s a Must with that Tune Pressure…
Thanks for watching and you're welcome! Try and reach out to CTS and see if they are able to send you upgraded clamps. We happened to have these left over in the shop from another build.
Hey, do you know if there’s a reason why nobody uses the other i.e. intercooler? The bigger one? I want to get that one, but I don’t see anyone using it.🤷♂️
what is the difference between an intercooler from IE vs 034 vs APR or ECS? would they all be the same or does IE offers something better than the rest for this type of hardware upgrades? btw my IE stage 1 for my s4 b9 is already coming thanks to your channel! great stuff
They are all made differently, whether it is a bar & plate design or a tube & fin design. IE utilizes their FDS technology which allows it to flow incredibly well. As much as I can't speak to the performance of the other company's products because I have never used them, I have seen nothing but quality hardware come from IE and Uni. The other 3 companies, I can't say the same. Thanks for watching and congrats on your B9 S4 build!
I honestly can't say that because I've only tested the one. What I can say is that it worked exceptionally well on my car and when compared to another highly sold intercooler, this outperforms it according to multiple other people I have spoken to that compared them back to back.
Excellent. I have a 2021 SQ5 . I just got the APR stage 1/91 octane tune and am planning on this upgrade in a couple of weeks. Just curious - do you notice turbo lag (from the additional volume between turbo and combustion chamber)?
Your tuner will have set a predefined amount of timing advance that your car will try to achieve in optimal conditions. The goal is to get your car to achieve as close to that maximum value as possible through all of your gears.
@@VancityAudioh ok so let me get in contact with IE and see what it would be. I would usually send them my logs and they tell good or bad, but I want to learn more about the logs myself. Thanks for the reply bud!
I have used two different Iroz intercoolers in my RS3 and they have both worked well for me. I've never tested a Unitronic intercooler, but I've heard they work really well too.
Great vid. I would freakin love to go big turbo for my B9 S4 but it costs $5K on IEs website. Running 9's is CRAZY and straight supercar territory! Imagine pulling up to a 2022 C8 Z06 and simply blowing it away in a sleeper S4. Classic :-)
Great video Adam. I’m about to add a man upgraded intercooler to my B9 SQ5. Does your S4 have Audi pre-sense? If so, I am curious if you ever had to have it recalibrated after removing front bumper? I heard Audi charges several hundred to recalibrate.
Pre-sense uses a camera mounted behind the interior mirror, it’s only the adaptive cruise radars in the bumper. As these are located in the lower bumper grill on the B9 even with a bumper removal it doesn’t affect them. Even if it does it can be re-calibrated via VCDS.
@@Jackofspades11 I was under the impression Audi pre-sense was the ability of the parking sensors to activate the braking system which to my knowledge every B9 S4 has. What I believe you're talking about is referred to as ACC or adaptive cruise control. That is what the camera is that is found on the front grill of the vehicles optioned with it.
good job man 👍amazing video so far best videos I found on RUclips soo many information you give as of course I'm doing everything you do except 😀 I jump to stage2 iE from beginning 😀 .
Hey, I have stage 1 93 on my B9 S4 w/ inlet CAI and intercooler. For stage two, I would need a dp and tune but I am only after performance gains, not sounds. Do you feel the difference the dp makes? The stage two tune only provides cackles, no hp/tq gains. And with the dp costing $1K it isn't cheap. So very curious to get your feedback
@@jimmyb2202 soo many ways you right but stage2 i have full bolt on is little bit more different in hp from stage1 how much is different between stage2 end stage1 i don't know end Reason why I'm on stage2 because right now I can get TTE710 for stage3
@@jimmyb2202 I'll be documenting my entire build as I take this car to a FBO Stage 2 E85 power level. I'll be able to show you exactly how much power the downpipe makes on a dyno and on track.
Hi Adam, also a van vity audi owner. Amazing to see so much cooling. "Cool" video. Question, That Intake Air Temp graph is strictly RPM and Temp? When you said at the end of the run the temp is at... I'm not sure if that graph is ploting temp against rpm or speed or something else. Thanks.
glad i went with this IC and didn't cheap out on an ECS/Rev 9... do you know what the IE IC is power rated for? i assume they're using it for their TTE Stg 3, so must be good.
Not at all. Materials have gone up significantly from years past. You also get what you pay for in terms of performance. Lastly, if you use my link in the pinned comment, you'll get a discount!
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Awesome! And yes we appreciate it. Great video, Adam.
I have the APR intercooler on my car now, and the IE version in a box, I think I’ll do this same test when I swap.
Out of curiosity why swap from apr to ie? Apr intercooler has shown to hold great even on power levels of the tte710. Also comes with replacement piping and has shown to compete right with Wagners. Just curious on why the swap 🤔. I could understand if you were going from like ecs or cts which have lower performance.
@@headshotharry2313 I’m going to do a couple videos on it for my channel. Also, the IE intercooler has FDS, which should increase the ability to cool. I’d like to see if there is a difference and how much.
@@Vaguh now that's a very good video. Apr vs ie, is cost difference worth it. Also remember to say the apr comes with replacement piping. People will automatically assume ie is better because it's cheaper but doesn't have replacement piping.
It'll be cool to see how much the IE intercooler outperforms the APR one. I'm more than confident it will.
IE has been my favorite for years. 🤙👍
Impressive improvement, even with the E85 likely helping to keep the timing higher as well. I imagine the timing improvement would be even higher on a 91/93 tune. I can't wait to upgrade my RS3 intercooler.
The only thing that was hampering the timing advance was the IAT's being too high. I would have to think the improvement would be the same or less on the pump gas tune because the timing advance of the tune isn't nearly as high in the first place.
Impressive! Definitely a worthwhile upgrade
Agreed!
Thank you so much for these stats!! Always looking forward to your next videos
You're very welcome. Thank you for your support.
Lol, the difference in size between the two intercoolers is bananas. Impressive results!
so how do these temperature drops translate in HP and Speed 0-60? That is the metric everyone is looking for
Final question: it appeared that the clamps that came with the IE intercooler weren't tight enough, and you swapped them out?? I'm having one installed on my Audi next week...do I need to purchase different clamps? If so what size and type?
Great video! I wonder if the larger intercooler restricts airflow to the radiator, it would be interesting to see the oil and coolant temperatures before and after the install. Cheers!
Thanks! We've installed much larger coolers and heat exchangers on all of my Audi's and have yet to experience issues with either of those concerns.
@@VancityAudi Thanks for the reply. Tempted to install one on my S4 Avant now!
@@paulrennie5722 do it up! easier on the motor when it is using cooler air rather than extremely hot air as well as seeing an increase in performance.
Great video and analysis of the benefits of this intercooler. Comparing boost levels before and after would have been interesting to see as well.
I imagine the boost levels would have dropped seeing as more timing advance was able to take place from the lower IAT's
Love the effort you put into your videos man!👌
Thank you for your support!
Super good content again Adam!!! Keep up the good work brother! 💪💪💪
Thank you!
This Right here was a Well needed Video for me and I’m sure for others Audi Fans/Drivers, I Appreciate the Time you take for explaining everything! it’s a coincidence I just installed my IE Intercooler/ CTS Charge Pipe yesterday on my ‘18 SB and did one Pull with that Bottom Clamp Popping right off was so annoying, where/Size did you get those upgrades Clamps? It’s a Must with that Tune Pressure…
Thanks for watching and you're welcome! Try and reach out to CTS and see if they are able to send you upgraded clamps. We happened to have these left over in the shop from another build.
Once again nice testing.
Thank you
Hey, do you know if there’s a reason why nobody uses the other i.e. intercooler? The bigger one? I want to get that one, but I don’t see anyone using it.🤷♂️
It literally just came out. That's why. If my S4 wasn't broken, I'd be running one.
Have you ever tried thermal disbursement coatings? They are "supposed" to transfer heat out at about 25 to 30% faster?
I have not. Know of any brands you'd recommend?
what is the difference between an intercooler from IE vs 034 vs APR or ECS? would they all be the same or does IE offers something better than the rest for this type of hardware upgrades? btw my IE stage 1 for my s4 b9 is already coming thanks to your channel! great stuff
They are all made differently, whether it is a bar & plate design or a tube & fin design. IE utilizes their FDS technology which allows it to flow incredibly well. As much as I can't speak to the performance of the other company's products because I have never used them, I have seen nothing but quality hardware come from IE and Uni. The other 3 companies, I can't say the same. Thanks for watching and congrats on your B9 S4 build!
When change the intercooler, do we need change charge pipe too?
No. As I mention in the video we did that just for a boost tap.
Would you say out of every intercooler out there is the IE one “best”?
I honestly can't say that because I've only tested the one. What I can say is that it worked exceptionally well on my car and when compared to another highly sold intercooler, this outperforms it according to multiple other people I have spoken to that compared them back to back.
Excellent. I have a 2021 SQ5 . I just got the APR stage 1/91 octane tune and am planning on this upgrade in a couple of weeks. Just curious - do you notice turbo lag (from the additional volume between turbo and combustion chamber)?
I didn't experience any additional lag.
Hey Adam question on spark advance, what is a a good number to have? Higher the number the better?
Your tuner will have set a predefined amount of timing advance that your car will try to achieve in optimal conditions. The goal is to get your car to achieve as close to that maximum value as possible through all of your gears.
@@VancityAudioh ok so let me get in contact with IE and see what it would be. I would usually send them my logs and they tell good or bad, but I want to learn more about the logs myself. Thanks for the reply bud!
@@tsras1979 you're very welcome and good luck!
Hi, I have a question on which websites I can buy an intercooler for the audi s4 b8 from 2009 thanks
I'm guessing your car has the V8?
@@VancityAudi no v8 3.0 tfsi 333 ps
I would like to install it in an audi but I can't find anywhere I could buy it.
@@rafakoluch107 little more searching on my channel and you would have found it, haha. ruclips.net/video/80jnlqNax6Q/видео.html
@@VancityAudi don't help me, thanks 👎
Hey man what app are you using for the datalog? I just datalogged my car but it opened through Microsoft excel
It's supposed to be in an Excel format. Go to datazap.me and upload it
@@VancityAudi Hey thanks man highly appreciate it
@@herck1310 no problem. I explain it all here: ruclips.net/video/xj2aA4vpMzM/видео.html
I Have a 20’ Rs3 on Stage 1+ e85 from UNI , would you recommend an IROZ or a IE IC?
I have used two different Iroz intercoolers in my RS3 and they have both worked well for me. I've never tested a Unitronic intercooler, but I've heard they work really well too.
Great vid. I would freakin love to go big turbo for my B9 S4 but it costs $5K on IEs website. Running 9's is CRAZY and straight supercar territory! Imagine pulling up to a 2022 C8 Z06 and simply blowing it away in a sleeper S4. Classic :-)
I do that already in my somewhat sleeper RS3, haha.
@@VancityAudi Right but an S4 is more of a sleeper; you have the lovely RS badge don't forget. A step up! :-)
@@jimmyb2202 clearly you haven't seen the back of my RS3! Lol. Might want to check out the photos of the rear end on IG or FB for a laugh.
@@VancityAudi Mate, that's hysterical. Passat!
@@jimmyb2202 wrong car, hahaha. That was my B8 S4. I started it with my RS3 downbadge and followed suite with my B8.
An opinion about a5 2.0TFSI 190Hp 320 Nm DEMA code? is it reliable ?
Sadly I don't know enough about them to comment.
Great video Adam. I’m about to add a man upgraded intercooler to my B9 SQ5.
Does your S4 have Audi pre-sense? If so, I am curious if you ever had to have it recalibrated after removing front bumper? I heard Audi charges several hundred to recalibrate.
All B9 S4's have front pre-sense. I have never recalibrated my pre-sense once.
Pre-sense uses a camera mounted behind the interior mirror, it’s only the adaptive cruise radars in the bumper.
As these are located in the lower bumper grill on the B9 even with a bumper removal it doesn’t affect them. Even if it does it can be re-calibrated via VCDS.
@@Jackofspades11 I was under the impression Audi pre-sense was the ability of the parking sensors to activate the braking system which to my knowledge every B9 S4 has. What I believe you're talking about is referred to as ACC or adaptive cruise control. That is what the camera is that is found on the front grill of the vehicles optioned with it.
All VAG platforms should require an IC upgrade as part of stage1 1, full stop.
Agreed. That's why my first performance hardware upgrade is always an intercooler or heat exchanger.
Don’t even wait until stage one, vw/Audi oe intercoolers have to be some of worst/least efficient ones I’ve ever used.
good job man 👍amazing video so far best videos I found on RUclips soo many information you give as of course I'm doing everything you do except 😀 I jump to stage2 iE from beginning 😀 .
Thanks! I hope the results of your upgrades were exactly what you were hoping for!
Hey, I have stage 1 93 on my B9 S4 w/ inlet CAI and intercooler. For stage two, I would need a dp and tune but I am only after performance gains, not sounds. Do you feel the difference the dp makes? The stage two tune only provides cackles, no hp/tq gains. And with the dp costing $1K it isn't cheap. So very curious to get your feedback
@@jimmyb2202 soo many ways you right but stage2 i have full bolt on is little bit more different in hp from stage1 how much is different between stage2 end stage1 i don't know end Reason why I'm on stage2 because right now I can get TTE710 for stage3
@@jimmyb2202 I'll be documenting my entire build as I take this car to a FBO Stage 2 E85 power level. I'll be able to show you exactly how much power the downpipe makes on a dyno and on track.
@@bossanac9093 So you are ready to drop the $5k on the big turbo?
Everyone charging big bucks for Chinesium cores lol
Hi Adam, also a van vity audi owner. Amazing to see so much cooling. "Cool" video. Question, That Intake Air Temp graph is strictly RPM and Temp? When you said at the end of the run the temp is at... I'm not sure if that graph is ploting temp against rpm or speed or something else. Thanks.
The graph I was showing was simply the intake air temp vs what the rpm was.
glad i went with this IC and didn't cheap out on an ECS/Rev 9... do you know what the IE IC is power rated for? i assume they're using it for their TTE Stg 3, so must be good.
Sadly I don't know what power they rate it for, but you are correct. They are still seeing solid IAT's while using the TTE710 on E70 and running 9's.
Was this performed on the same day ??? lol good video
Nother great video, thank you.
You're welcome. Thanks for watching
Enjoy your content. Thanks
You're very welcome. Thanks for watching.
On the road to a 9.xx pass...
Not with this turbo! Lol
mr.adam - iam in luv with u!
Uhhhh, thanks I guess? Haha
900 bucks for it is wild tho🤦🏾
Not at all. Materials have gone up significantly from years past. You also get what you pay for in terms of performance. Lastly, if you use my link in the pinned comment, you'll get a discount!
CAP definitely has this beat
😂😂😂 I'd love to see you do a proper head to head test to prove your statement to actually be true, rather than just making an untested statement.
Does the bigger intercooler block the radiator causing any rise in engine temp?
No