Boss Overpaid Us By $30,000 And Wants It Back!
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I love how people call Dave, when they should be calling a lawyer.
right
He’s not asking legal questions, they are not suing. He’s asking how they should go about paying it back.
Some lawyers won't take cases like these so maybe it's difficult to procure one....trust me
😂😂😂
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Tell the company they can get the $30k by delivering pizza at night.
Agreed. They shouldn’t see the inside of a restaurant unless they’re working in it lol
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You guys 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 yall are killin me!
I spilled my alcohol reading this! Too funny!!!!
Unfortunately the "company" here is the government, so there is no writing it off.
I've been overpaying the government by about 40% for years! Where's my reimbursement?!
@Brian Waller *extortion. There is threat of livelihood involved.
for real
Brian Waller the first income tax was a flat 6%. we need to go back to that and just privatize most government functions so we don’t need to collect too many taxes. the top 1% pay 40% of all taxes while the top 50% pay 90% of taxes while 25 million people didn’t make enough or work at all to pay taxes yet they collected 63 billion$ worth of government funds. freaking mooches
Same
It’s literally robbery. If you don’t pay they send soldiers with guns to your house to get you
I would set up a plan to pay them $84/month for 30 years.
😅😅😅 Im wit it!
😂😂😂
Jeff Green same lol
Lol
Yes !
Usually they underpay and act like nothing happened 😂
Sad
@STS Tech fairly hilarious the word "right" isnt spelled right
@@danmurray6896 LOL
@STS Tech Their company is more appropriate, not there as in location as you have used it.
@@texan903 a bunch of school teachers thinking people care about spelling in RUclips comment section
That's rubbish. Somebody in accounting should get fired and the company should write off the loss.
Totally agree. Lawyer up. Happened to my buddy. He got an extra 5k. Paid a lawyer 500 and kept the money.
So the company should write it as a gain if they under paid her? Obviously not. You can't have double standards when it works for you. The reciever of the money is always responsible to ensure the correct amount is recieved.
Michael P I knew some would say this. Immoral.
@@youtuber6185 what's immoral is screwing up the accounting and expecting someone to fix the mistakes you are responsible for.
Drew Pierpont How I was raised if I did work for you and you accidentally overpaid me I’d give it back to you. I didn’t earn it and your mistake isn’t my gain. Also if I discovered you underpaid me I’d expect you to pay me what we agreed to. And aside from this, if I shook your hand and agreed to do something that I later regretted, I’d finish the job even at a loss .... because I promised you. It’s just old school; that’s all.
Don’t get me wrong, I know that most people would agree with you and have no pride or moral standards. It’s just the world we live in today. You weren’t taught better.
I’d be like, I’ll repay you over 10 years.
This way, there is job security for a decade.
Yeah, they shouldn’t be charging interest either. 0% 10 year loan!
@@velveder2 100% agree and they offered to take pre tax you wouldn't even notice
Haha 😆
Smartest comment here
Nah, they’ll just require full payment at termination or they will go get a judgment.
I spoke to HR for the 50 dollar increase on a paycheck! They told me I got a raise! celebrated at McDonalds with a $2 strawberry shake!
+Malai Samy Ramomoorthy
You did that because you probably are on a regular salary. She clearly is on variable payments and simply did not check to see what she was earning.
Her mistake is that she did not have the skills to calculate her salary.
Malai Samy Ramamoorthy Smart man👍
Yeeepie! That’s what I would do! 👏👏👏
I had a similar thing happen to me. I noticed my check was up a bit and I called my boss. She told me that I'd gotten a cost of living raise. I was happy with that and I went and got myself a dollar burger over it.
Lol
They have paid income taxes on the 30thousand dollars. How do they recover the taxes?
amended return. 3 years with federal so beyond that too bad. also increases your chance of being accused of fraud so be very careful.
@@oldtwinsna8347
Can they accuse you of fraud? I thought they did an audit, usually. If you have proof of giving the money back, then, I don't see why they'd accuse anything.
Reimbursement or mileage is not taxable. So, they didn't pay income tax on that. And there is no way these folks didn't realize they were getting paid too much every single month.
@@ellec2935
Her pay is probably not regular. She more than likely got an irregular amount and it threw her off. This is not the first time this has happened to people. It may be different if her pay all of a sudden doubled.
Her $68,000 per year is $5600 per month and a $800 change on this probably did not seem unusual. Especially when taxation and contributions are thrown in it really gets confusing.
In the video Dave and Chris were taking about the tax refund
I think they knew and are pretending oblivious.
Lol he though he was slick haha
I am embarrassed to admit this, but I might not notice an extra 10k.
Facts
With that kind if extra money coming in, they knew it was happening and they were hoping they wouldn't notice.
@AKAT1980 lol, guilty as charged.
Lawyer up it’s not your fault. It’s the companies fault and their H.R.
losing your job after is not worth it
Operator 9037
By law they can get the money back.
Wont do any good but they can give money away to a lawyer too if they want.
I was with you until Dave pointed out that they should have at least caught it when they did their taxes. They really had to not be paying attention.
That might work with a private employer. This is the county government. They'll get the money back one way or another. It's a question of how do you want them to go about it, working with you on a payment plan or using the force of government to seize your property? If you fight the repayment you lose your nice county government job with 21 paid holidays, 4 weeks paid vacation, and probably a government pension. Risk versus reward doesn't compute in this instance. Regardless of who made the mistake, it's also the right thing to do.
@@ocky88 Oh they knew but they just don't want to admit that they knew.
I got overpaid by a massive fast food restaurant when I was 18. They accidentally put my hours worked, as my hourly wage. I was a kid who didn’t know any better so of course I was stupid and spent the money. They had a lawyer contact me like 6 months later when I didn’t even work there anymore. He said you can either pay it to me now, or I’ll see you in court. I didn’t have the money so I said ok see you in court. I never heard from their lawyer again, so they are either didn’t have a leg to stand on about the mistake or didn’t want to bother pursuing it. That’s all I can say from personal experience without knowing the law.
It's usually the company at fault for these things where I live I believe the line is reasonable so if it's say 3x your wage that's not reasonable but and extra hundred is that said from my understanding most employers take it as their fault and treat it like stupid tax as long as it's within reason
Yeah because it's not worth it to them to pay lawyer fees and court fees for the few hundred bucks you owed them.
You paid taxes on that 30K.....I would deduct the taxes from it and let them figure out how to get it back from the gov't. BTW....the FICA taxes dont show up on your 1040.
Ben Parker great point!!!👍👍👍
If might depend on how she was paid... he said it was some sort of reimbursement (i thought he mentioned mileage but then later mentioned retirement), and i think some mileage reimbursements may not be taxed, with the caveat that you cannot claim mileage deductions on your taxes.
I mean, it's pretty likely that she paid taxes on it, but maybe not.
Also though, this was effectively a zero interest loan... so she kinda won there...
If we are going to consider taxes though, that extra $10k each year might've pushed her past the limits for all kinds of deductions, especially on state taxes. I wonder if they'd benefit from just refiling for those years, and if the tax break could offset paying this all back in 1 year (so she'd only make $38k this year... which is livable if he's working too)
It's mileage pay ,tax free
Ben Parker yeah, they need a tax accountant to figure that mess out.
No, no, no. The money they gave her was reimbursement for travel expenses. That is not taxable.
I'm so confused why Dave doesn't factor in taxes in any situation he is presented... They were getting $800 a month & it probably ended up being like $500 after taxes
It would be more like 200 per pay period which is barely notable,
Exactly! That was my first thought!
Didn’t he mention it was an expense reimbursement? That’s not taxable.
Exactly what I was thinking
...because much of economics is calcluated by gross numbers...
Reminds me of the movie Office Space and Milton Waddams. " It appears he was laid off 5 years ago and nobody told him, and due to a glitch in payroll he still get's a check."
I love that movie 🤣
Councilman Les Wynan yes good decision
It's real life in South Africa . There are people who quit their government jobs and still got paid for 10 years. Even got yearly bonuses and yearly raises.
Swingline hatin' nincompoops
We just “fixed the glitch” - Bob
Dude just wanted Dave to say "keep the money."
Lol
The County? Just goes to show how well-run and well-managed our public services departments are run.
What a shocker.
jfloresdrums it’s ridiculous. In Orange County CA, some officers and school officials make over 200k.
PRIVATIVE ALL GOVERNMENT OFFICES!!!! IT'S THE ONLY SOLUTION1!!!
Hugo Lizardi that will probably afford them a nice studio apartment in Orange County 😂
Andrew F a studio in Irvine is less than 2k a month. I live in OC
Wouldn’t mind my boss paying me an extra 30,000 😂😂
I'd riotously likely have to get on my knees!
Mine too 🤣
My boss is so cheap that I haven’t had a raise for 5 years 😂
It's even worst working for Texas state agencies. They just hire people from the outside in to better higher paid positions than the people that have been there for a while.
Dave is speaking from a business owner perspective and automatically takes the business’ side. They didn’t steal the money it was the business’ fault. Don’t pay it back
Would you say the same if they had just figured out they were accidentally underpaid? And if they don't pay it back, then what? At minimum, she starts looking for a new job. How much is your professional reputation worth?
@@davidfifer4729 ur point just reinforces what he is saying. Even if he was underpaid it would still be a company mistake.
@@kevin-lw9myexcept it's not a business it's the county that she works for and dave even touched on that as a business owner if you over pay someone well you just lost that money but the county doesn't have that leeway my employer takes Dave's side on matters like this if I over or under pay that's my fault and I have to make that right
He specifically said that the could shouldn't have to pay it back of the employer was the one who screwed it up.
"That's what they told us" Take it into your own hands and sit down and figure it out! Why would you trust them when they messed it up in the first place?
Yes. They need to have an exact accounting to prove she owes money and how much. This situation sounds very badly handled on the accounting department's part, not just hers.
Because they knew all along what was going on and how much they were overpaid. But instead of bringing it up and getting it straightened out, they just took the money. Bonus points for spending it instead of saving it just in case they had to pay it back. I bet they'll be... err... wonderful parents.
@@inabina2925 He [the caller] gave a list of celebratory and virtuous things before getting to the part where they kept money that was obviously an overpayment. His level of delusion was pretty thick to call in to Dave Ramsey with this -level of malarkey- I mean "situation".
I was overpaid 3 months in a row at a small mom and pop supplier. I worked 100% commission based so checks would always vary. The owner called and he said, “How about we split the difference from my mistake?” So I repaid him half and got to keep half and thought that was a fair deal.
How much you want to bet they knew and just kept mum about it. Unless you are making 100k+ a year you're going to notice an extra 800 dollars every month
Of course they didn’t know did you not hear they are Christians and tithe ?
@@BigRed2 HAHA
No matter what you make you’re going to notice anything extra.
They prob thought it was a mistake n not say anything so they can keep it. Now they are asking they worried
@@flch95 If you make millions a month you won't notice anything below the tens of thousands. Your comment is false
Once they ask for it back that’s when I look for another job
My company accident paid me an extra 800$ I didn't say anything of course and so they withheld some of my money until I full paid then off.
I check every penny entering and leaving my account multiple times a week, how do people go 3 years without noticing an extra $800 a month?
The noticed. They just didn't think the employer would
I'm guessing that guy is pretending to be oblivious.
She just told her hubby " Look Honey They gave me this Huge raise "
They obviously knew... 🤦♂️🤦♂️
Of course but if they were getting underpaid that’s a whole other story,... they would totally notice that
@@MistaTofMaine He might not be playing ignorant.
She knew, they knew and didn’t question it.
And thought they would get away with free money.
You don't know that
Still not there fault
who cares, that doesn't change the fact that it's their money
She’s going to be charged for embezzlement!
The pay stubs on direct deposits say, "This amount is not negotiable."
😂
Lindsey Costa that simply means that you cannot present the pay advice at a bank for cash or deposit. When you deposit/ cash a check, you have “negotiated” it.
TOUCHÉ! 👏👏🤪
Lindsey Costa Sista... ok!!!
I wonder if that can be used in a legal statement.
My previous employer overpaid me $50 and made it seem like I knew, and was keeping it from them. smh some people can't run a business even with help.
my boss mess up on my check 4 time in a 5 years,
3 time they underpaid me, my boss took 4 hours to call me back.
when they over paid me, and I call them it took 30 second to get a call back.
They probably meant 450 after taxes Dave, you need to be on top of your game too 🙄😱, in all seriousness it’s not there fault. When doing taxes you never really know how much with all the miscalculations from these websites
ドアンMashiro yeah seriously. Dave Makes mistakes like this often and it makes him much less credible.
If it was reimbursement for car expenses, that would not be taxed. The caller is going all over the place so it is hard to follow. However, I do agree that Dave often underestimates what some people have to pay in taxes.
Nobody is paying 45% tax on $800
I agree but Dave was saying that when you actually do your taxes, your w-2 will clearly list your income. If she makes $68,000, that means her w2 clearly stated that she made $78,000 that year, not including overtime. I get the first year but not 3 years in a row. They knew. Lol but you are right. They obviously meant after tax.
@@johnnastrom9400 alot of jobs like mine take taxes out of the reimbursements. Kind of sucks because I feel like I'm paying twice but oh well
"You should be on top of it better than this."
To be fair, that company should have been as well.
Both parties should have been monitoring
@@maryanne2025 the company is the one who gives and manages the money and pay. They need to be on top of it. It's on them
@@onesound9344 I hear ya but to protect themselves they, the wife/ couple should have asked questions if some thing was amiss so they could avoid possibly liability in the future
I remember once I was looking at my cable bill and I saw that the cable company was charging me monthly for a box that I had long since taken back. I started checking my cable bills and saw it had been going on for several years. I called the cable company and they researched and saw I was right. They had to credit my bill for the total amount I had been overcharged. And i had free cable for about five months. Check your stuff people
They 100% knew she was getting paid more. Tried to get away with it. She’ll have to pay it back.
They probably did not know.
How many people do you know could accurately calculate their taxation. Most people take it that their paycheck is correct.
I am guilty my self of doing this in the past. My wife once got over paid by $8000 over a few months because she was doing overtime all over the place and it confused her. She just took it for granted. We got a lawyer and accountants involved. The initial claim was that it was $15000 over payment.
The hospital director informed my wife that they would write the amount of but we insisted that the full amount be paid that was owed.
Still their fault. Oh well, tough luck
No she won't, they'll settle for much less or write it off
I say fire the person that made the mistake and they're not getting their money back no way no how
They wouldn't give you $30,000 if they were underpaying you
Legally, you do have to pay it back. This might vary by state, but at least in michigan you have to.
California you don't have to.
I heard a similar case with a state employee in CA, the employer ( the State) told her that they overpaid her for 15 years and made mistake with her retirement contribution. She received a letter starting that they will be garnishing her paychecks to get the money back. At the time, she hired a lawyer and I don’t know what happened with her case....
@@MayaKanaKa well they cannot legally garnish your pay... unless they received a court order to do so. The US labor laws do not allow for employer garnishing, unless the employee agreed.
@@juliab8992 Yes they definitely have to pay it back. The question is how far back they can go. It was also obvious the caller was leaving information out. It is going to depend on how it was paid out on her paystub. I'm guessing it wasn't regular pay but a separate line item ie. Reimbursement and without question they knew it was wrong.
Wife: "Honey, they're over paying us! What should we do?"
Husband: "Don't do anything! They messed up! Let's keep the money!
3 years later: "Hey Dave! My wife's employer was overpaying us for 3 years and they finally caught us... *cough* ...they finally found out they messed up on overpayment and want us to pay it back.
😂😂😂 the Christian in me would've told my employer I think you're over paying me.
Something tells me she didn't say anything until after she got the letter
How were they suppose to know it was “extra” if she’s been getting paid the same amount since her very 1st check when she first started working there? 🤔
If they looked at their check stub it would be itemized, & they should say, "what is such & such for $850 a month?!"
Government pay stubs aren’t that straightforward, especially if you have travel expenses and if you get a bit of overtime here and there. I’ve worked for the government for 13 years, and I honestly don’t know what my base salary works out to exactly (net) every two weeks. I have a pretty good idea, but if there was an extra 100 on there I wouldn’t pick up on it for a while.
@@Preservestlandry the itemization is usually complicated, there are dozens and dozens of pay codes. To read my stub I have to login to a government server and access a master sheet of pay codes that is enormous. There's a lot of employees that don't submit for pay for a lot of little things due to the complexity,.so I've always wondered if they do this on purpose. If I traveled regularly for I would have difficulty keeping track of whether I was getting paid correctly or not just due to the complexity.
Because math.
If you have a brain you know exactly how much each check will be based upon salary.
It's the employer's fault. They don't owe the money. The company needs to bite the bullet...not the struggling family. I love how Dave says,"How could you not notice?" Better question, How did the people in accounting not notice!!!!!?????
If there’s no interest being accrued then she’s should stretch out the repayment as long as they will possibly let her. Cmon Dave, this is a no-brainer!
That would make the most sense. The only issue that might come up is if she ever quit or got fired.
Yes. That also guarantees her the job security for that many months/years. They won’t fire her until she is paying back.
They knew. They just didn’t want to say anything . I would do the same
Most people would but this is the consequence
That's dishonest, and dishonesty is a sin according to the Bible. Jesus died for our sins so that we could have forgiveness and eternal life if we repent (John 3:16-17).
@@bryanjacobs1423 Payroll and financing with the company should fire the accountant.
You do know your job will make you pay it back especially if it's a government job. Best to say something as soon as possible
Bryan Jacobs seek help
The military does this all the time and will just take it from you years later with out letting you know.
Company made the mistake, they should eat it. It’s been going on for 3+years. Can’t take it back now.
It’s not yours. 🙄.
This guy is a lot nicer than me...I would tell them “you’re mistake, not mine” 🤷♂️🤣
I think Dave is forgetting taxes, 401K,HSA, FSA, additional benefits coming off that recurring error payment. $10,000 a year $384.61 per paycheck. And she is getting maybe an extra 90 a week.
He mentioned this was mileage reimbursements....which are typically 100% tax free.
Most people nowadays are getting paid via direct deposit, it’s quite possible that they didn’t notice especially since it was a recurring mistake. I don’t know why everyone assumes they knew, the employer should have paid attention too!
Do you not check your bank account balance every month?
If I got hired with a salary of $58k and at some point I realize they paid me $68k, like when I do my taxes as Dave said... I'm going to notice! It doesn't matter that the net was dd. You still see the gross at some point.
My former coworker told me they overpaid him by like two thousand. He spent it. They had him on a payment plan like he was at Walmart trying to get something for Christmas. Same thing happened to me. The accountant did my taxes (and maybe he was wrong when he did the math) but the IRS gave me $300 more than the accountant told me I would get. I notified him. He told me to leave it aside until April. If they don't argue that I was overpaid by $300 by April, then I believe I get to keep it.
I don''t see how it's possible for someone not to notice they're getting paid an extra $10,000 per year.
I was surprised a company did that. Then he mentioned she works for a county …makes more sense now.
Did you get taxed on this extra money too?
They would have, yes. Unless it's something like LOA or a reimbursement.
Liz Bosen That is the first thing I thought of. If IRS audits them and sees $30K of undeclared income they would be in trouble but if the government overpays no problem
The repayment will be a pretax deduction
Liz Bosen yes exactly so that number should come out of there
He said it was a reimbursement that got entered into recurring instead of one-time... so no, as a reimbursement it wouldn't have been taxed. .. which makes me wonder if the IRS is going to have a problem with this since they were paid and it didn't match expenses... it sounds like they need an accountant and an attorney to look this over. -_-
The first thing you used to do after boot camp in the Navy was a personal finance class, and my instructor insisted she knew a guy who got two extra zeroes on his paycheck one month. Thinking it must just be his lucky day, he went and bought a new truck in cash and then had to pay it back to Uncle Sam with interest and penalties for the next two years.
It's funny, because the main takeaway from the class was "DON'T BUY A NEW CAR." turns out that was the first time a lot of kids had ever had a steady paycheck and they all wanted to buy a new car. Sort of like professional athletes, but with a much smaller salary.
Love how the guy bragged about giving extra on his tithe... I'm sure God was super proud of how generous you were with a fraction of that money you got paid by mistake.
I'm not even going to listen to Dave's Response on this one...thing is...that's the employers fault...they need to bite that cost....if they want employees to repay that after 3 years!!! then they can go ahead and start firing the employees that don't repay...because the employer doesn't have a leg to stand on. Took them 3 years to figure this out..I'm calling B.S. on this.
That's their bad.
Let's be honest, they knew they were getting free money 😂
Getting over paid in the military happens all the time.. and uncle Sam always gets his money back
I would be apaulled at such a suggestion.
I wouldn't noticed being overpaid by $10,000 a year, if I'm being completely honest. That's not a whole lot weekly, not to mention after taxes are paid on that amount. I'd talk to lawyer.
J Barnsley but that’s 800 a month, you really wouldn’t notice that? Lol
@@laurah6381 I definitely would notice that! I know within a certain range of what my paycheck will be, an extra $800 would definitely stand out!
If it happened from the first paycheck she received it would have been difficult for her to notice it
@@MayaKanaKa Except that she was expecting a lump sum reimbursement. She had to know that she shouldn't be receiving it every paycheck forever.
@@MayaKanaKa yes, but Dave is right, you need to constantly check pay stubs for mistakes. Stuff does happen. If she knew how much hourly pay she was supposed to make, or if salaried, how much she would be paid monthly & she got more then she should have looked immediately. If this was after the first check & it jumped up by $800, anyone would notice that.
If you need the job, pay it back. If you don’t keep the money, get a lawyer.
“I’m sorry what was that?”
Dude was about to hang up and call someone else 😂
I'm guessing he wanted Dave to tell him to keep the money.
Lol well he'd be stupid then
He shouldve
I remember I received a extra $3000.00 from work, I immediately notified my boss about the extra money and paid it back the following month.
They knew they were getting that extra money but didn’t say anything. I would have probably done the same thing.
That's dishonest, and dishonesty is a sin according to the Bible. Jesus died for our sins so that we could have forgiveness and eternal life if we repent (John 3:16-17).
@@bryanjacobs1423 Who cares what the bible says. It advocates for slavery. God can tell us no to eat shrimp but can't tell us not to own people as property.
@@James-yi1vk Begone, troll.
@@bryanjacobs1423 Didn't Jesus forgive the man that killed him?
@@Willparr Gone like your non-existent god?
I like how he's calling him out. I think they knew. Decided to ride that cash pony till it was taken away. The kicker is they didnt expect repayment.
My dad got overpaid, he was honest enough to let H.R. know. HR wanted him to pay it back( which he did) and he ended up losing money on the tax that got deducted. Go figure.
No good deed ever goes unpunished
People have a way of overlooking getting more money, but they never forget when they're getting less, oh heavens no!
I was overpaid by $50 week this past year. This went on for 19 weeks. It was during a time when my paycheck was fluctuating due to a position change in the company. They needed me to cover another employees job that was terminated and that's when they discovered the mistake. They didn't even have the courtesy to pick up the phone and call me. They just adjusted my salary down and I only caught it when I got my check stub and pending deposit. They thought they had leverage over me to force me to work the higher paid work for my lower salary. Nope. I told them to take every penny out of my next check. I didn't want to OWE them anything. If they felt I didn't earn it, I didn't want it. I went back to my lower paid position and salary and told them good luck on covering the other work. I also let them know that I no longer trust them to do the right thing concerning my salary compensation.
When did you get fired?
"We don't ever really look at the paystubs." There ya go folks.
Many People never check their paystub to know how much they should be getting!
I wouldn’t pay them back, I would get a lawyer, bc it’s not her fault for their accounting mistake
Unbreakable_WIT agreed.
lawyer costs money.. either way they lose
The couple will lose in court.......you can not benefit from a company's mistake......the company will prevail.
@@SilverSergeant
But the company cannot burden them either with finances if it is their mistake. I would seriously get a lawyer involved just encase the company is up to no good. She needs to rule out there are no crimes at play.
Generally speaking, federal and California law allow employers to garnish your wages to get repayment. It's possible a good play is to sign an agreement with the longest possible payback term and then change jobs however, because they may not be able to chase you down for a bill, only garnish your wages.
Well that’s dumb. Who would say “Hey you guys are paying me too much”???
If she's getting reimbursements each check maybe she didn't really notice. 🤷🏼♂️
I bet if they would of been 100 dollars short on their check . They would of noticed it quick.
2:13 when you get caught in a lie 😂
Nope, it was more just that the guy was talking in terms of disposable income, whereas the whole 30k figure is before tax.
"She really enjoys working for the county" 😆 the gov
This happened to a coworker, they payed him 3 x the hourly wage for 18 months straight before account caught on.....
.....short story
He quit after the good time were over...
That extra money put them in a higher tax bracket and they had to pay more taxes.. They probably did only get 450 extra a month and not 850
Do you not understand howa progressive tax bracket works. You only pay an increased percentage on money in the next bracket.
Called for advice.....got a mild lecture as well. 😀
I'd find another job. I wouldn't trust a company like that to actually pay me enough.
If this couple received $800 a month less than they expected I bet they would have noticed this a lot sooner.
"Excuse me. I think you gave me too much money" -Nobody
I would. It is not worth it in the long run.
@@Jake-io1vu Maybe the majority would but not everybody. Some people do have morals.
@@Jake-io1vu This is probably the dumbest statement I have seen. It's not immoral to take money that isn't yours, just because you feel like you are owed more? Man you are as dumb as a rock.
My mom is a very honest and good person, she once told a cashier at the bank that she was mistakenly given an extra $500. I wouldn’t though.
I’ve had to do it. It was apparently an accounting nightmare to take it back so they made me work more hours to earn it 🥺
He knows the amount Dave, it's just that made the recurring payments twice a month!
At least you know she’ll have her job for 2-3 more years because they’ll want their money back. Lol
exactly. That is job security.
I’ve missed being overpaid by more than that per month. You assume you’re getting paid right when they have accounting and HR departments, and you just figure your own math is wrong.
This is no different than the bank inadvertently depositing someone else’s money in your account, If you go out and spend it as a windfall, the bank will eventually come back after you. You can say “ f the bank - their fault” all you want. If it winds up in court, you’ll lose.
If these idiots are that oblivious to their finances, then shame on them. They CHOSE to be ignorant and most likely knew they were being overpaid, hoping the company wouldn’t catch it. The company has every right to recoup their money. These people are going to pay “stupid tax” to the tune of 30K.
give lawyer $10k and keep $20 change the job
How do you *accidentally* overpay by $30k?!
Her pay for those three years was $204,000. It would be easy to be out by 14% most people simply do not have the ability to calculate there taxation. They are probably jointly filing and on top of that her mileage is not taxable.
It is very easy to be confused by this.
bighand69 I guess so, that’s an additional $10k a year? Someone would have had to notice this, either the couple or the accounting team.
It's WAAAY more complicated than simply repaying $30K. You have state income tax, federal income tax, FICA and a number of other paycheck deductions. She really needs to see an accountant to figure out what all of the implications are since they may have over paid on taxes and need to refile their taxes based on the new (reduced) gross.
Consult an attorney. Seems like they may legally only have a claim to the most recent year. Financials should have already been completed and audited for prior year and not adjustable.
I don't believe California labor law allows them to collect the overpayment.
@Beyond Tribalism I don't believe that would happen. The employer is prohibited from retribution in this situation and the fines and penalties for wrongful termination are severe. As a California employer I would never be inclined to fire a good employee for following labor law. The person who created the problem, however, might be disciplined in some form depending on the reason for the error. I have actually experienced a similar situation in a company I was brought in to help solve some management issues. The manager had made several payroll advances to employees without a signed agreement to repay. We wrote off the advances and the manager was terminated.
I would quit and tell them good luck getting that 30k back... for a issue the company made 🤦🏾♂️.
Could they take legal action? Just curious.
SoHo Don they probably gonna be after you even you quit. I’ll try settle for a less amount like 15k
Same lol
So you would quit a job where in the next 10 years you make $500,000 to keep 30000 smartmove
12/17/19...Good luck b/c #1) County will sue + #2) She will be unable to get another job.
I like how they cut them out at a certain point so they can’t rebuttal lol. It’s like this is the point you need to just listen.
Could you imagine being the employee who works for Dave and was responsible for overpaying someone else with Dave's money?
Umm that's their fault..it just shows you that nothing in life is free, it'll come back and ask for their money back..
@Cognitive Harmony! 1st of all u dont know me. So calm down, and secondly I meant it's the couple fault. Have a seat
@Cognitive Harmony! I read her comment as saying it's the couple's fault. Maybe you should slow down and read things twice before faking outrage on youtube.
@@GigiMartine I disagree with you blaming the couple. I'm sure they knew and hoped nothing would happen but it is not their fault. It is the person handling payroll at her place of employment that made the mistake.
Cognitive Harmony! You seem triggered bud 😂
@Cognitive Harmony! LOL This guy misreads a comment and it's everyone elses fault that they messed up. Sad. God bless you Sir, I wish you nothing but the in life. If strangers on the internet get you this heated then only God can help you. All love
"County" haha explains the incompetence
They probably knew. This sometimes happens at my job (public school system) and everyone gets paid based on years of experience, education etc. and the second you see a difference in the amount you're getting paid verses how much you're supposed to get, you have to get that changed ASAP.
How is it the employee’s fault if the county can’t figure it out or audit it? They have an entire department devoted to literally checking the payroll. I wouldn’t doubt if a county employee gets in trouble if their time card is wrong.
Government at its finest right there.
I remember when I left my.job at the state and they continued to pay me biweekly. I racked up $8000 and didn't touch it one bit. I hoped maybe they wouldn't notice but they eventually did. I gave it back to them the same day.
The moment you notice that this occurs you should have been on the ball.
If the company overpays you how is it the individuals fault? The company should have checked beforehand.
I remember I got overpaid for my first job. They asked for it back after I had quit. I told them to go suck a lemon. Never heard from them again
They knew. How can you not notice thousands per year extra. They just hoped they wouldn't be noticed. Should have banked the money in case Boss Man came calling. A one time mistake, ok, but when this is happening week after week you better say something because someday someone will notice.
Boy - what a mess! What about income tax returns from those years! They need a good tax accountant.
If I were her I would lawyer up just encase her employer is up to no good.
Why not put it on a max repayment plan. Job security 😂🤷♂️🤦♂️
When he explained that she got a lump sum payment for reimbursement and other things and it just kept going at that rate- they definitely knew.
She really enjoys working for the ‘county’. Imagine the government screwing up, go figure.