Jeeps Off Road Plus Button What Does It Really Do? Does It Have Hidden Features? Let's Test it!
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- Опубликовано: 19 дек 2023
- Jeeps Off Road Plus Button What Does It Really Do? Does It Have Hidden Features? Let's Test it!
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I use my Off-Road Plus button out in the Glamis sand dunes…it’s absolutely amazing! These Jeeps are just next level for off-road enthusiasts!
Agree. I. The rubicon 4 high and off road plus is like 4 low in any other truck. It's like jeep has 2wd, 4hi, 4 medium (off road plus engaged) and 4 low.
It works great in Glamis!!
I've no button or lcd. 6-speed manual is my shift control. More electronics -> more things to go wrong.
Reading the manual and Jeep supplied videos are also a free way to learn the wealth of features of a jeep. Thanks for sharing your video.
Great point. I actually did a video on all the amazing off road info in the jeep owners manual too. It got very little views of course. But the jeep owner manual is actually an amazing resource for anyone that goes off road too.
Another thing. When in 4 low, it acts completely different. It dulls the throttle input down which makes for a much easier to control vehicle while rock crawling.
Very true. For rock crawling (witch I never do) 4 low would be best.
And again, thank you for the great comments
Best explanation of that button I’ve heard. Thank you for the info
Thank you. Glad you enjoyed it.
Thank you for the info I didn’t know you could lock the rears in 4h until this vid! Thank you!!!
Glad you enjoyed it
Cool little button, informative video!
Can I also mention how I think Jeep does a great job at providing an excellent mix of technology and features, while maintaining the simplicity in there driveline systems!
A center console shifter, hand e-brake and the reliable 4wd lever system!! Less buttons and computers controlling the important things…things we can physically engage, rather then rely on a computer system! Just a thought.
Agree 100%.
One lever to engage 4high and one big easily accessible easy button to hit when trouble starts at 60mph. A button that engages traction control off and locks differentials
Here to confirm. My 2024 Willy’s does have these button. So glad I found this. I had no idea…..
Awesome! You will love the features of this button
Great vid my friend- thanks for putting this together for us. Sub'd.
Thank you. Glad you enjoyed it
I’ve been looking for this video for two years. Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it
Aloha Jason. This is a great video explanation for the topic and descriptions for this button in the Jeep Gladiator.
Thank you. Glad you enjoyed it.
Works great in the snow as well
Especially deep wet snow. The longer gear holds makes a big difference.
Thank you for this! super informative!
Very welcome. Glad you enjoyed it
Thanks for the info, amazing feature that I did not know about
Glad you enjoyed it. I live in the swamps and mud and the offraod plus button in 4high is on 90% of my time there.
Crazy! Ill have to tey this on my 22 rubicon gladiator. A big selling point on the Mojave is that you can lock the rear locker in 4HIgh. So this is a crazy revelation being that a rubicon has a front locker also.
With a tazer mini I can lock both front and rear in 4hi and can lock the rear in 2wd on my rubicon
Well dang 😂I learned something new.Thanks for the vid will use for sure.
Glad you enjoyed it
Nice work! Looks great!
Thanks
I wondered what it all did thanks
Glad ypu enjoyed it
Off road plus in low range has a different operation again. It makes the brake lock traction control even more effective.
Good to know. Thank you
Great review and hidden feature unveiled
Glad you enjoyed it
It's been a while but I could swear I engaged my rear locker on my Rubicon in 2 high
I don't think it's possible unless you have the tazer mini installed. But maybe you got lucky and the lockout was somehow disabled. That would be awesome if it was.
Great information. I am new to the Jeep and honestly haven't used the lockers yet. Haven't needed them. Anyway, I have a question. I have been seeing on other channels that you should never engage the lockers in 4H. Can you please take a moment and explain the type of situation that you would want to use the rear lockers in 4H? I want to learn is why I am asking. I just hit the subscribe button because I did thoroughly appreciate this video.
Thanks,
Pat
A rear locker connects both rear axles together so they provide equal traction. Without the locker engaged the rear axles are open and if one wheel looses traction the other wheel will loose power (simplified version). You should not be driving with lockers engaged. They are for obstacles mud holes and sketchy terrain that requires more traction. Since most of those situations require slow speed and power most people go into 4 low anyway before engaging the locker. But going into 4 low and locking up requires many steps (come to a stop, shift in to neutral, shift into 4 low, shift into drive, pull forward a bite, stop engage the lockers ) then you can hit obstacle and reverse all that process to get back to 4 high unlocked. The ability to use a rear locker in 4 high cuts all the crap down to (stop, hit button, go). Example driving a back road with 5 big mud holes over a 1 mile period. With 4 high ridge road, stop before hole, hit locker button, go thru holes, stop unlock locker, continue to next hole and repeat. Imaging if you had to do all the required steps to go in to 4 low and locker for all 5 of those holes.
Hope this helps explain it. This is coming from a guy that does 200 miles a week of that "5 holes per mile roads".
@@SamkoWorkShop Great explanation. I get it. That puts a perfect picture in my head. Like I said, I'm pretty new to jeeping and have not needed the lockers yet. Although 4 high saved my but yesterday. Glad I was in when I hit the mud. LOL.
Thanks again,
Pat
@everythingrvbypat5613 and when you hit that mud in 4 high it was really like 2 wheel drive because of the open differentials. Had you hit the rear locker before hitting that mud it would of been a 3 wheel drive. Had you used both front and rear lockers it would of been true 4 wheel drive. Again simplified versions without getting into torque transfers etc. But for all practical purposes when a wheel looses traction 2wd become 1 wheel drive, 4x4 becomes 2wd and 4x4 with rear locked becomes 3 wheel drive and 4x4 locked front and rear is true 4 wheel drive.
Modes are often not mentioned or under rated. I got a 2018 Renegade at a real steal in May 2019. I live in MT and frankly other than the Gladiator I got now, a Renegade is a very good Montana Car. But anyway I discovered the "Sand Mode" in the Renegade and the description is almost identical in that it became more torquey and the shift points dropped. I called it Easter Egg mode and on National Forest Roads you could fly... But it also had great engine breaking on the way down at speed.
Oh, I traded the Renegade for a Gladiator in Dec. I wanted one back in 2019, but they were just too expensive. But in December an opportunity to get one at 30% off was just too much to pass up. AND a decent trade on the Renegade.
The Renegade was a good vehicle with limited off road capability so the bias was paved roads, but I still took it a few places that were pushing it and it made it. The Gladiator is not as "refined" in terms of road manners on paved roads, but it will go places the Renegade couldn't like Tizer Lakes a few miles down the road from me. I tried but it was too much for the Renegade. The Gladiator is like, that was fun, what next.
2 amazing vehicles. I own a gladiator and I had a 2020 renegade. I took thst renegade places it should never have gone and it did great. So a roomy great little suv and was a fantastic price
Holy Cow, I just sold my 2005 LJ that I had over 700 hours building over the last 13 years. Sold her and bought a 2023 392 last week, power windows, door locks, its like a damn space ship. This is cool but its like going from a 1941 Willys to the Millinnium Falcon.....
Im so jealous! Man I wish I could get a 392! especially since 2024 will be the last year for them and they are special edition and gonna be near impossible to get now.
@@SamkoWorkShop I honestly never thought I would own a vehicle like this. Everyday I walk out the front door and see it in the driveway it makes me smile. Been slowly making some upgrades but going to keep it simple for a while, 2-3" lift and 37's. Thanks for the videos, theres so much to learn on the Dash and controls its insane. I am more of a mechanical guy than Tech :)
@rsanoian such an amazing vehicle. Very happy for you and I'd be smiling all day too if owned one. Such an iconic vehicle and worth so much as it was only available for a short time.
In 4Lo the Off-road + has even more features! Automated trail speed control at .6mph increments, different throttle response for rock crawling, etc.
Thank you. Good to know. I've never used trail speed or crawl controls in any of my vehicles so never messed with it and I definitely don't do any rock crawling here in the swamps😂. But many people that watch this will also greatly appreciate the info. Thanks again.
Great video! Thank you. What if you are in 4 low, does it seem even lower with it on? I just picked up my 2024 Rubicon X 2 weeks ago and haven’t been off road yet.
Actually never turned it on while in 4low. Will have to check and see. In 4 high is amazing. Now that I have a tazer mini and can use both my from and rear locker in 4 high and have the offroad plus to change the shift points I very rarely go into 4 low anymore
Congratulations on your new jeep by the way
@@SamkoWorkShop Thanks!
Great detail.... It's always been the use it now? button for me. I'm curious what combination people use for highway snow driving... Like when its chains or 4wd conditions. I'm pretty much just 4 High and go in my Mojave but maybe I should be using lockers or Off Road+
In snow on the highway I would just be in 4 high and let traction control handle the slippery conditions. In order to turn on the locker you have to disable traction control. On slippery snow the traction control is your friend
@@SamkoWorkShop Thanks.... It's always worked so far except when I get back off the highway in new snow.
@oxdogoxSF yep in deep snow at slower speeds I prefer tracri9n control off and rear locker engaged. In those situations traction control just limits my power. But on slick roads traction control is great
I have a ’24 Willys and it has the off road plus button. I have a 6 speed manual, so I wonder what actual benefit it would have. I can hold any gear as long as I want, not really sure there would be much use for the button.
Let's you use your locker in 4wd high
Very cool. I just picked up my '24 Rubicon and haven't had it offroad just yet. Hopefully soon will find the time. Mine is a manual. Any idea if this does anything specific to the manual?
Great question. I don't own the manual (wanted one bad but they were all on a no sale hold waiting on a clutch recall so I couldn't buy a manual last August when I bought this). So I'm not sure if and what features work in the manual. Hopefully someone with one will chime in.
@SamkoWorkShop if not I'll report back when I get mine out on the trail.
@@WreckedBrewery will be excited to see what it does in the manual
Off road button is perfect for sand.
Agree 100
So should I be using that every time I'm offroad and in 4H or 4Lo?
No don't have to. But when you are cruising in 4 high and have a mud hole etc in front of you it's nice to hit the offroad plus button and you can also hold and kill traction control and then kick in the rear locker in 4 high if you want to.
with OffRoad+ could you also lock front and rear diffs in 4HI?
Not the Front locker. Front locker has to be in 4 low to engage. But in offload plus with traction control turned all the way off you can engage your rear locker.
@@SamkoWorkShop Thank you
If you buy the JL mini taser you can lock the front and rear while in 4WD HI. You can lock the rear while in 2WD. You can disconnect the sway bar in 2WD as well.
@matthuffman8418 correct. Love the tazer mini. But even without it you can still engage the rear in 4 high
If the chevy was the same price or cheaper(from your earlier video), would you still get the Jeep?
Yes. They were both within a grand. The zr2 was going to be 47 and I paid 46 and change for the gladiator . The gladiator fits my life style much better. It's so robust and designed for what I do. My trucks spend 90% of their lives in the swamps and mud and washed out places being rocked, bounced, and beat up and lots of water crossings. The zr2 would handle it too. But there is a confidence with the 35s on the jeep and the fun factor is unmatched! I love my gladiator. I mean like funnest most capable truck I've ever owned. And has more room inside than any other midsize. It's almost like having a full size truck again in the back seat.
So unless your using the locking diffs you want traction control on in 4wd which the off road plus initially turns off.
For icy roads and slippery driving conditions leave traction control on . Traction control will limit your throttle. Meaning if the wheels start to slip it will reduce power to prevent wheel spin no matter how hard you press the throttle. That's great for road driving. Off road you want control over the throttle and to be able to power thru mud, etc. So traction control off is better for me in the woods.
@@SamkoWorkShop Thanks
@@danoesq2 welcome
off road plus on a 392 turns on fun mode
I'm so jealous. I'd love a 392! What a beast of a machine
Yeah it's basically a sports mode
That’s so cool! Now do a burnout… 😂😂😂
rear locker with 4-high is a feature if you have a Tazer Mini.
Yes but it's also an option if you have the off road plus button and you do not need the tazer for it like I show here. I now have a tazer mini and have it set up so I can use my rear locker in 2wd and both lockers in 4 high
@@SamkoWorkShop You CANNOT lock the rear in OffRoad+ from the factory.
@@TheDirtCreature YES you can. I've shown it in many videos
@@SamkoWorkShop NO, you cannot. When you try to do this in a factory setup, it tells you to shift to 4 Low. I literally just went to do this in mine again because I thought I was crazy.
@TheDirtCreature go watch my other videos or the other 30 videos on yourube that show you that you 100% can. Stop telling me I can't. I do it all the time. Now I don't need to with the tazer. But I've been using the locker in 4 hi for months before that. Seriously try watching a video before you tell me you can not again. This is like the 5th time I've had to say it on your comments
I built mine from scratch in 2022 I don't have that button. I just have the swaybar disconnect. I'm guessing because I have the 4auto instead of the 4H
I believe this is only on the rubicon models until 2024 where the willys gets it too. But I could be wrong
You cannot lock the rear in 4 High and OffRoad + from the factory. You can disable the sway bar.
Yes you can. I have shown how to do it in multiple videos. Check any of my gladiator videos and I show you how
@@SamkoWorkShop Not from the factory.
@TheDirtCreature seriously. YES YOU CAN. Go want my other videos to see how to do it and then go try it for yourself. Stop telling me I can't. It's not a secret that you can.
Is it a big job to add the front Offroad camera?
Good question and I don't know. But on a jeep you really don't need it as you can see so well over the sloped and tapered hood
It only allows for rear locker in 4h and in 4 h only works up to 20 miles an hour then locker kicks off. 4 h is not a crawl mode used for higher speeds. In 4h it's supposed to be for a little more traction without going 4 low .
You should not need a locker faster that 20 mph. 4 low doesn't give more traction than 4 high. 4 low just changed the gearing. And going into 4 low at every obstacle then back to 4 high for driving gets old fast down here in the swamps with an obstacle every quarter mile. The offroad plus button and the rear locker in 4 high gives a person all the capability needed to get theu holes and obstacles without going into 4 low. I use this mode 30 times a week in my 300 miles a week in the swamps. Love this offroad plus mode. But that said now that I have a tazer mini and can use my rear locker in 2wd and both lockers in 4 high I will probably never go into 4 low again.
@@SamkoWorkShop 4L is stronger than 4H, as it provides more torque and power to the vehicle's wheels.
When shifting into 4-Hi under Off-Road Plus mode, you’ll see more responsive acceleration and a change in the way the vehicle performs in softer terrain. The mode dials in a more tuned traction control, allowing for additional wheel slip in sandy conditions to ensure the vehicle doesn’t bog down and lose momentum.
Additionally, this mode optimizes transmission behavior, holding gearing longer and keeping the revs high for continued power. This is crucial when attempting to traverse a muddy patch on the trail, or looking to crest a particularly tall series of sand dunes.
Finally, using Off-Road Plus in 4-High also modifies the Jeep’s Electronic Stability Control, making it less obtrusive and generally keeping it from impeding movement so quickly - helping the vehicle overcome traction issues in sand, mud or snow.
@geneshadd4483 true but 4 low doesn't provide any more traction just changes gearing
@@geneshadd4483 very spot on. That's why I love this button
It auto manages the gearing so it doesn't shift when climbing or trailing. In the dunes you will lose speed with out it. It doesn't give you more power of torque.
It does give you more power and torque by changing the shift points to hold gears longer. Like you said. But that allows you to stay in the higher rpms longer giving you access to more power and torque transfered to the wheels
Is offroad plus offered with the Mojave?
I would believe so but not sure. Would have to check one out and see. The Mojave has the high performance off road suspension but gives up the front locker. So not sure about the off road plus button.
Yes it does
@@frankpulliam8445 perfect. Thank you for taking the time to answer
You can stay in 4H and disconnect the sway bar and lock the hubs I think
Not sure about the sway bar in 4 high. I never tried it yet. You can lock the rear locker in 4 high if yoy have the offroad plus button. To lock the fronts and rear lockers in 4 high you need a tazer mini
@@SamkoWorkShop as long as you are in 4wheel of any range you can use the swaybar. It will reconnect at 19mph, and disconnect itself again when you drop to 14mph or below.
I grabbed a tazer so I can disconnect in 2wd or at any speed for our GA forest service roads because playing thatbconnecting/disconnecting game is frustrating
@vdub5818 thank you for the info. I have only disconnected mine one time so far just to make sure it worked. But when the swamps fill up herebin south east ga it will be handy to have the extra articulation in the holes
The hubs do not unlock on modern Jeeps, unfortunately. This would be so much superior to the stupid center axle disconnect, but alas....
As someone who offroads my jeep like crazy and rock crawling as much as I can, I never use the off road + button. just dont get the point of it. Holds gears longer thats about all I know it does. The fact I live in 4lo, just doesn't seem to be a benefit. I think its for highspeed baja stuff
Different types of offeoad. Me personally this button is amazing as some one that offroads to get from point a to point b in the swamps and mtns and woods. I do not ever rock crawl or purposely look for obstacles to drive over. For me it's a matter of exploring new places finding new hinting spots and being able to there and back with all the mud holes, water crossings, and swamp crap. And this button is a priceless.
@@SamkoWorkShop I get it.. but lets be honest, I've seen where you're at, you could easily do all that in 2wd :) , I think holding the gears longer is a benefit in the sand, like the dunes
@fastfed now that's funny. Yep, dunes, mud, deep snow and anything that 4 lo is too low for.
@@SamkoWorkShop agree! Well keep up the good work man, your videos are awesome! Id love to see where you go with it in the future
What are some good Jeep groups to join in Georgia?
Not sure. I'm not part of any.
I'm partial to my county's FB jeep group, Cherokee County Jeepers, because I'm a moderator for them 😂. However for a state wide group GA Jeep Alliance is a good pretty big one.
If interested our group, Cherokee County Jeepers, has a ride this weekend on the 14th that I am leading on the Big Frog Loop. Stock friendly with 1 spot that makes it a little interesting.
@vdub5818 thank you for this comment. I know it was not directed st me but like other I appreciate it. And I will check them out as well. This spring we plan to do some jeep rides and will reach out to these clubs
@@SamkoWorkShop 👍 It was directed at anyone who wants in. We are a family friendly group and only accept members if they answer the questions and agree to the rules, so please remember that if requesting to join the group. Without doing so there isnt a way for us to guarantee new members know the "rules" so to say and to be PG friendly.
We do monthly rides, sorry if this is a bunch of info but this is this year's ride schedule.
January is the Big frog loop, February is Charlie's creek and Tray Mountain, March we are headed to Stony Lonesome to get some badges, April we are doing a ride and shoot in Cohutta and Sumac Creek Shooting range then later in the month we are headed to Prentice Cooper in TN, May is Beasley Knob OHV for the badge, June is Gultches ORV for the badge, July is Turkey Bay OHV for the badge, August is our easy night ride on Old Bucktown and Nimblewill then later in the month a 5313 ride, September is Morris Mountain, October is Coppinger Cove, and November is Windrock for the badges.
@@vdub5818 fantastic. Thank you
Please never say that it changes the gearing ever again lol. That’s not how that works. 😂
It essentially does 4 things.
1. Allows you to drive at higher speeds with rear locker engaged.
2. Disables Traction Control
3. Adjusts throttle for off road driving.
4. Adjusts auto trans shift points for off road use.
Exactly everything I said it does. I just said gearing because it feels like it changs your rear ratios. Obviously it's only shift points but not all people under stand that and explaining like I said with feeling like it changes your gearing makes it easier for people to under stand and makes more sense. I was ase certified mechanic for 10 years then an automotive engineer for 16 years. I know how it all works. But it's important for me to translate it so it makes the best sense. Most people out there don't even know what a locker is lsd is how traction control works etc. So I try to simplify to help them understand
The Mojave has off-road+.
Thank you for the update and answering this. Love this button. I'm in 4 high with offroad plus 4 days a week. Such a great button
Where are the 2024 Jeep Gladiators
Expected to hit dealers in a couple months. The strike held them up big time. Just like the 24 colorados and canyons
What does it do ....unnecessarily complicate crap in what should be a simple basic system
I really like the idea of the gladiator but thanks to videos like this I remain debt free 😂😂😂
Debt free should always be the goal and a great way to be. But this button is 100% amazing. It's like having a 4 high, 4 medium (with this button) and an insane 4 low. Jeep does it right! Love this button.
You didn’t need an eight minute video to explain one button
Apparently I did. Maybe you don't. But I did.
Blah blah blah, get to the fkn point.
These Crack me up. But I appreciate the comment
@@SamkoWorkShop you welcome.
still junk
Cool
Wonder what old Eddie drives ? I’m guessing a Honda ridgeline
@@Adrian-rn1ym based on all the comments where people rip on jeep its probably a toyota😂