First development in The Zodiac case in many years

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  • First development in The Zodiac case in many years
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  • @indianastones6032
    @indianastones6032 6 месяцев назад +161

    So no actual development in the zodiac case then!

  • @thomasmoshier3920
    @thomasmoshier3920 6 месяцев назад +112

    Registered nurse here. I can tell you casinos, amusement parks, concert and sporting venues all have these “first aide stations” on the premises. Where they’re located and how they’re staffed isn’t widely known to the public. Whoever abducted Donna Lass knew where to find her. It had to be someone she knew or someone who worked at the casino. Whether that makes the suspect the Zodiac I can’t say. But if Lawrence Kane worked at the casino, he’d be a prime suspect in my book.

    • @guitarista67
      @guitarista67 6 месяцев назад +3

      What country? Who writes "aide" in the US?

    • @josh656
      @josh656 6 месяцев назад +15

      My gf got hurt at Universal Studios and the first aid station was hidden better than most covert military sites.

    • @thomasmoshier3920
      @thomasmoshier3920 6 месяцев назад

      Cruise ships go one further. They employ MD’s and have morgues. Because old people die and cruise ships and casinos are full of old people. Donna Lass was an inside job….

    • @paulcarpenter999
      @paulcarpenter999 6 месяцев назад +4

      Despite what the video says, it's not clear if she actually was abducted from the casino. Hopefully the police will now release more case details, given the age of the case.

    • @thomasmoshier3920
      @thomasmoshier3920 6 месяцев назад +9

      @@paulcarpenter999 everything I’ve ever read about the Donna Lass case has said she was at her post charting and pulled away mid sentence at around 1:45 am. About 15 minutes before her shift ended at 2 am. This tells me she was lured away by a false emergency just outside of the facility and then abducted. Which would be totally different if her shift was over and she was at the tables waiting for a ride where she could have been abducted by anyone. Or walking home after work. She didn’t finish her shift. She was on the job at the “first aid station.” This was not the Zodiac. That’s not the Zodiac’s MO. He didn’t abduct his victims. He did however try to take credit for crimes he didn’t commit. This case could have been one of them.

  • @joydivsion77
    @joydivsion77 6 месяцев назад +56

    Im sick of this clickbait crap. I make a list of youtubers who clickbait and never watch another one of their videos, so goodbye Bad Things: True Crime.

    • @blackriders3509
      @blackriders3509 5 месяцев назад +6

      Thanks fam. Now I won’t waste my time watching the rest of this

    • @NachtSchreck13
      @NachtSchreck13 5 месяцев назад

      Yeah. These are all AI created content. They siphon the content from other channels and then regurgitate it in this soulless garbage.

    • @Maverick25ish
      @Maverick25ish 3 месяца назад

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  • @Trev-jz6yw
    @Trev-jz6yw 6 месяцев назад +30

    So where’s this development in the zodiac case?? Wtf!! Did I miss it!

    • @paulcarpenter7844
      @paulcarpenter7844 6 месяцев назад +3

      More like a indepth look lol

    • @froggyspond1133
      @froggyspond1133 4 месяца назад

      Typical of this channel as of late sadly

    • @kathykline7202
      @kathykline7202 Месяц назад

      There were a lot more huge developments in the case you are not aware of yet. Example - he was found. DNA has matched to Florida killings. Every so called cipher was also solved, his name was in Z340 and Z408.

    • @kathykline7202
      @kathykline7202 Месяц назад

      All ciphers were broken including Z13 and Z32 and remainder (15 lines) of Z340 which had real stuff not killing stuff about himself. Then he was found - then recorded testimony was given, then he died. Donna was also found. This has not been announced to public yet. But I doubt they would believe it anyway. I have been called a liar so many damn times. But I am telling the truth, See, tell lies - people will believe you. That has been a proven fact. Zodiac lied, those arent ciphers, he could not cipher, but everyone I have seen even professional cryptos with PHD's believe Zodiac. They dont anymore. Also a relative lives in Incline village., Person with keys lost was found, his cop uncle was found, anymore detail you would like to know ??? Jesus, you even believe the Z340 was broken. LE really does have dna and it was a match, they sent me a letter and called me too. They met as a committee, all people assigned to Zodiac case, and it was finally decided what to do. They want you to think "case is open and unresolved" Do you believe them too? Well that is what they want you to think. Good, you do believe them.

    • @mydogs5040
      @mydogs5040 17 дней назад

      OK, all "ciphers" have been solved, those were not ciphers they are a language form not often seen. Z340 was solved lines 5-20 which had never been done, although some people claimed to have "cracked" it, that was 4 lines and there were errors you need to know in those lines that were missed. His name was found in Z340 and Z408. Donna has been identified as a victim, and she was found. There was a lot of personal information in Z340, it is not about I love to kill. The name was handed to the Zodiac task force manager in two states. Zodiac is dead.

  • @mikeseibert4889
    @mikeseibert4889 6 месяцев назад +21

    I think alot of his letters and cyphers where just him f##king with the cops.

    • @kathykline7202
      @kathykline7202 Месяц назад

      Ciphers were not ciphers, they ended up being an english like version of branches of Arabic. His name is like a windy snake layiing on top of the translation. His identity was in Z408 and Z340. LE is aware. They are done now, including the last 15 lines of Z340 which is partifularly interesting. But yeah he was FXXXing with cops and all of you people too. You will not get the joke I have made. He uses all you people in Z340 and other places as well.

    • @kathykline7202
      @kathykline7202 Месяц назад

      It was also f&&&&ing with YOU All. He keot saying "you all" in Z340 so it was not just the cops.

  • @daishi4531
    @daishi4531 6 месяцев назад +11

    I feel it's fantastic that Donna was found, now she can be given a formal burial where she can rest now. No, she was not a Zodiac victim, Z's number 12 victim was a girl named Eva Blau, he tells us this on the Pines card. He wanted to end the Lass rumor, so he sent the Pines card to clarify. It's all right there when you know how to read it, clear as day. Donna was targeted by a rape-slayer, and Zodiac killed to take on & beat the cops, which he did. He hated the police immensely. Once he beat King Toschi, he killed #12 and completed the Zodiac. That's why it was punched out on the Pines card, it was completed. The Zodiac officially retired that day the winner.

    • @daishi4531
      @daishi4531 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@kathykline7202 There surely could more after, but not as Zodiac. And he went into a mental hospital soon after the Pines Card was sent. He resurfaced in '74 for the Exorcist Letter, claiming 37, but not as Zodiac. We're obviously talking two seperate people here. I say he retired Zodiac after 12 kills, completing the circle, the Pines Card Zodiac's last official message. Everyone has their favorite suspect, this is what makes the Z case so interesting and debatable 😀

    • @shaunault7538
      @shaunault7538 5 месяцев назад

      He did kill her sorry ur wrong

    • @daddybeagleaz907
      @daddybeagleaz907 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@kathykline7202 are you saying that Z is from another country than the US? If so, Graysmith brought this up briefly in his book.

    • @kathykline7202
      @kathykline7202 4 месяца назад +1

      @@daddybeagleaz907 Yes I am. Its Holland. When he came here first - he lived in Texas, that is the accent people talk about. Texas and Dutch and American LOL

    • @daddybeagleaz907
      @daddybeagleaz907 4 месяца назад

      @@kathykline7202 Graysmith brought up the possibility that he was a British engineer who had lived in the Bay area for 10 years. Your thoughts?

  • @elizabethbogle3533
    @elizabethbogle3533 6 месяцев назад +9

    Poor Donna. Rest in peace.

    • @kathykline7202
      @kathykline7202 Месяц назад

      I know, I cried. But the happy news is another vic was not found in the translations. And that is why I did the work i did for 4 years.

  • @leet7489
    @leet7489 6 месяцев назад +10

    I really dont know if we'll ever know who Z is

    • @kathykline7202
      @kathykline7202 5 месяцев назад +1

      You will.

    • @kathykline7202
      @kathykline7202 Месяц назад

      You will definitely know, please be patient.

    • @AF-vd8dd
      @AF-vd8dd Месяц назад

      Do you know of any new developments in this case?​@@kathykline7202

  • @doublethomas8415
    @doublethomas8415 6 месяцев назад +8

    Different MO's. Zodiac never sexually assaulted anyone. Holt didn't move to S Lake Tahoe until 1974 so likely didn't kill Lass. I'm still not convinced Lass was a Zodiac suspect. After Stine, Z never sent proof in his letters or gave information that only the killer would have known. He watched the news and read the paper then took credit for crimes he didn't commit.

    • @daishi4531
      @daishi4531 6 месяцев назад +2

      You nailed it, you have excellent 'gut instincts' 👍

    • @chrisricketts8059
      @chrisricketts8059 6 месяцев назад +2

      He got spooked by the cops after the Stine murder.

    • @doublethomas8415
      @doublethomas8415 6 месяцев назад

      @@chrisricketts8059 I agree

  • @goneracin9
    @goneracin9 6 месяцев назад +11

    Gary Francis Poste also knew Donna Lass from her turning down his brother when she lived near the Presidio neighborhood.

    • @kenanacampora
      @kenanacampora 6 месяцев назад +3

      Bingo. See my comment above.

  • @kenanacampora
    @kenanacampora 6 месяцев назад +13

    Francis Gary Poste. Radar operator, US Air Force...Greenland. Air Force non-static boots. Used the word RADIANS on a map he sent the police. He is the one, to the exclusion of all others. The Zodiac symbol is a radar screen, not a sniper scope logo. He has the same scar from a car accident on base at Vandenburg AF Base in California, a four hour drive from murder sites. He also was in the Sierra Foothills near Pine Mountain Lake with a group of younger guys, teaching them how to kill. 1000% sure. No one uses the word RADIANs unless involved in Navigation, Land Surveying, Trigonometry or Radar.

    • @toddaulner5393
      @toddaulner5393 6 месяцев назад +1

      Anybody know who the young guys were?

    • @thomasmoshier3920
      @thomasmoshier3920 6 месяцев назад +3

      And absolutely none of that makes him the Zodiac or the person who abducted Donna Lass.

    • @sulatlalaki
      @sulatlalaki 5 месяцев назад +1

      NOT Poste. Laughable "case" against him.

    • @kathykline7202
      @kathykline7202 5 месяцев назад

      Installing solar panels. That was his occupation. Z13 Z32 map are just red herrings. Apr 12, 2022 - The Radian stands out against Sol-Ark in Rule 21 Compliance and non-export mode. Rule 21 governs how solar power inverters must respond to ..

    • @thomasmoshier3920
      @thomasmoshier3920 5 месяцев назад

      @@kathykline7202 they said the z340 was a red herring until it was solved. Zodiac always gave specific, detailed information on the crimes he committed. You knew it was him. He also tried to take credit for multiple crimes he didn’t commit. He did this by giving vague information that was available in newspapers and on TV. When Donna Lass went missing it was all over the media. So he sends a cryptic post card that doesn’t give law enforcement any new information. If he had done it he would have led the authorities to where the body was. Where her skull was found was no where near the postcard. For what it’s worth LE don’t think the case was Z either.

  • @winterhaydn
    @winterhaydn 5 месяцев назад +2

    This video is mostly filler. Get to the point.

  • @MrBeckenhimself
    @MrBeckenhimself 6 месяцев назад +35

    I wonder how Zodiacs fragile ego would handle the fact that he will forever be a distant second behind Jack The Ripper as the most infamous serial killer of all time.

    • @TokyoXtreme
      @TokyoXtreme 6 месяцев назад +9

      I wouldn't say "a distant second". I don't recall David Fincher or anyone else making a big-budget film about Jack the Ripper. I'd say Jack is in the #2 position.
      (I'm not the Zodiac, BTW)

    • @scockery
      @scockery 6 месяцев назад +9

      @@TokyoXtreme FROM HELL and Time after Time (fantasy) come to mind.

    • @h0rriphic
      @h0rriphic 6 месяцев назад +8

      @@TokyoXtremeNaw Jack the Ripper is far more infamous. Not sure why you think otherwise , but many films have been made about him, many. Documentaries as well. Books have been based on his crimes too He’s also known across the globe. The Zodiac killers bullshit is limited to the US. Many people across the pond wouldn’t have heard of him, but they sure af know who the Ripper is.

    • @MrBeckenhimself
      @MrBeckenhimself 6 месяцев назад +8

      @@TokyoXtreme The most famous serial killer of all time by a very wide margin is Jack The Ripper. Those are the facts. Zodiac doesn't come close.

    • @trixonic6934
      @trixonic6934 6 месяцев назад +4

      Don’t give him motivation to start the old hobby again

  • @cas-cos
    @cas-cos 5 месяцев назад +2

    These AI generated narrations are the absolute worst.

  • @alysandraborden9265
    @alysandraborden9265 6 месяцев назад +3

    That poor woman. At least her family has peace knowing where she is now, and that she’s no longer in pain or scared

  • @dorklyasmr6017
    @dorklyasmr6017 6 месяцев назад +33

    So the literal solving of the second zodiac cipher in 2022 doesn't count as a "major development"? Got it.

    • @TheGhostComputer
      @TheGhostComputer 6 месяцев назад +3

      It was basically just "Drink your Ovaltine."

    • @dorklyasmr6017
      @dorklyasmr6017 6 месяцев назад +3

      Yeah and it took so long to be solved because the Zodiac messed up when he made it. But it was still a huge development.@@TheGhostComputer

    • @daishi4531
      @daishi4531 6 месяцев назад +5

      The technique used to 'solve' the Z340 was the biggest bunch of bunk this side of Bunksville. Look into it a little deeper and you'll easily see it's not a valid solve. It was never allowed to be peer reviewed because the solver has zero faith in it and knows it would be deemed a laughable, inaccurate solve.

    • @that_robguy
      @that_robguy 6 месяцев назад +1

      Literal lol

    • @kathykline7202
      @kathykline7202 5 месяцев назад

      The second cipher was never solved, only 4 lines with errors, we did lines 5-20, its all personal data. The solve they did also had errors and a missed word, of course, the FBI doesnt know. Z340 is a form of the language Tamil. But just yesterday, I discovered the ciphers are doubles. He hid the second, like he did the misspellings. UPDATE - he hid a third translation.

  • @briannorman952
    @briannorman952 5 месяцев назад +3

    Man. So many would love for this one to be solved. He’s one of the last few unsolved serial killer stories. I’m still astounded they got Joe DeAngelo GSK. Would love to see the interrogation videos of him when they took him in.

    • @kathykline7202
      @kathykline7202 Месяц назад

      Well surprise !! It is. They did not take him in, they questioned him at his home. He was dying at the time. No, I am not making a story up. TRUTH YOU ARE HEARING.

  • @mikeseibert4889
    @mikeseibert4889 6 месяцев назад +3

    Why didnt u mention the letter the Zodiac sent the police talking about picking up a mother and young child and they got away from him that proved he was involved in that inciddent.

  • @JonosBtheMC
    @JonosBtheMC 6 месяцев назад +6

    1:55 FHA? I'm not from the USA. When I used a popular search engine to look it up, I got "Federal Housing Administration". That doesn't sound like a hobby. Can anyone enlighten me please?

    • @brockself8454
      @brockself8454 6 месяцев назад +8

      Future Homemakers of America. A group for young women in the 60s and 70s

    • @JonosBtheMC
      @JonosBtheMC 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@brockself8454Thankyou!

    • @kathykline7202
      @kathykline7202 5 месяцев назад

      I can, the secret word behind the misspellings is solar. I know because of Z32. this : FHA's Solar and Wind Technologies Program - HUD
      hud.gov
      www.hud.gov › sites › documents › Solar...
      PDF
      FHA-approved lenders must submit the loan to TOTAL using private automated underwriting systems. Ask your FHA-lender about financing a new solar energy system ... It does mean what you said. Everything has a solar connection but he doesnt tell you in any text, that is hidden Thats one of the hidden clues. There are many.

    • @kathykline7202
      @kathykline7202 Месяц назад

      And it is Federal Housing adm. Zodiac was not from US either. What you do to solve the misspellings and see the second clue is type the secret word at the back. He had to get approval from FHA on his solar installations.

    • @kathykline7202
      @kathykline7202 Месяц назад

      @@brockself8454 Ha,ha, ha - you are a funny one.

  • @gloriamontgomery6900
    @gloriamontgomery6900 6 месяцев назад +6

    Hmmm. The Zodiac’s main targets were couples-this would seem to be a clear departure from that. Also, Zodiac loved to brag at length about his killings. The killer of this young lady didn’t do that

    • @joegreen268
      @joegreen268 2 месяца назад

      The murder of the cab driver was a departure from him killing couples as well.

    • @kathykline7202
      @kathykline7202 Месяц назад

      He said nothing about Connie Ballard or Richard either, not unusual for him.

    • @angelmist4253
      @angelmist4253 Месяц назад

      Don't forget that cab driver that he killed.

  • @user-ws5di9ln1r
    @user-ws5di9ln1r 5 месяцев назад +2

    Lawrence Kane is not the zodiac killer!

  • @sirussid3671
    @sirussid3671 5 месяцев назад +2

    The title should be No new development in zodiac killer case in years 🤮

    • @kathykline7202
      @kathykline7202 4 месяца назад

      No, the ciphers were all solved, and his name was found in Z340 and Z408. i will tell you how to find his name, its english of course, and it stands out when you solve. Its like he made them with a dick tracy card, they are random and wind all the way to the bottom. his last name in Z340 starts 3 lines down. His full name is in Z408, first middle last, each name to a section. Chronicle is first.

    • @sirussid3671
      @sirussid3671 4 месяца назад

      Ok let me know.. thanks

    • @kathykline7202
      @kathykline7202 4 месяца назад

      @@sirussid3671 Are you talking to me??

    • @sirussid3671
      @sirussid3671 4 месяца назад

      Yes man let me know 🙏 thanks

  • @bustamango863
    @bustamango863 6 месяцев назад +5

    We all know when they don’t catch anyone then it was probably a police officer

    • @kathykline7202
      @kathykline7202 3 месяца назад +1

      His other uncle wrote nasty murder pulps and later on Lady of Doom reissue 55, He worked part time on that. Some of Z murders are imitated in pulps uncle wrote. Or vice versa, because the pulps were written first. His real full time job was a policeman in a major city. And you wont believe this either.......oh well why say it? I should not say. But I will. His uncle started a ballet company after being a cop. He was a ballet dancer. He performed in 24 plays including Mikado. He lived less that one mile away from Z. I told you - you would never believe, I didnt at first. Its in his obituary.

  • @norbertk9595
    @norbertk9595 6 месяцев назад +7

    I don't accept Lass as a Zodiac victim. When the Zodiac committed an attack, he demonstrated his responsibility for it beyond any doubt, providing detailed knowledge or physical evidence (e.g., the pieces of Stine's shirt) that was not available to the public. He committed a total of four attacks, beginning with the one Lake Herman Road and concluding with the murder of Paul Stine.

    • @thomasmoshier3920
      @thomasmoshier3920 6 месяцев назад +2

      I don’t buy it either. Zodiac had nothing to do with the Donna Lass abduction. Could he have sent the “peek thru the pines” card? Sure, but he gave no specific information because he didn’t do it. Zodiac loved to take credit for crimes he didn’t commit. The crimes he actually did commit he always gave detailed information to make sure there was no doubt. I think Zodiac got a bigger rush out of the letters and cyphers and tormenting the cops than he did the actual crimes. He was nearly caught after the Paul Stine murder and he knew it. I think he knew his luck was running out and it was time to quit while he was ahead.

    • @kathykline7202
      @kathykline7202 5 месяцев назад

      @@thomasmoshier3920 I do believe he did. Because how else are you going to get that form of language? Its rare.

    • @thomasmoshier3920
      @thomasmoshier3920 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@kathykline7202 just because he sent the card doesn’t mean he committed the crime. Z knew LE would be looking for a body. He send them on a wild goose chase. Z took credit for 37 crimes. He was only linked to four.

    • @daishi4531
      @daishi4531 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@thomasmoshier3920 Well, if this WAS part of his 'game' he sure won it, hands down. There's been people out there digging around in those specific pines for over 50 years now! 🤣

    • @kathykline7202
      @kathykline7202 4 месяца назад

      @@thomasmoshier3920 What that 37 C meant, was 37 celcious, temp of dead body. The F was fahreinheit. Its is made with columns and those are headers. There are 12 that I count..,for some reason, Florida has not been mentioned. There is also viable dna there.

  • @ediesaffron3593
    @ediesaffron3593 5 месяцев назад +2

    13:40 Cain worked for Alan Dorfman?! Woah wasn’t expecting that… there’s so many mob connections in a lot of famous cases back then 🤔

  • @efnissien
    @efnissien 6 месяцев назад +8

    I've often wondered if the cypher's are just gibberish to fuck with investigators.

    • @kathykline7202
      @kathykline7202 5 месяцев назад

      None are gibberish, dont believe what people tell you that are so called experts. They are languages you dont see much in this form.

    • @Ninja-Mama
      @Ninja-Mama 5 месяцев назад

      @@kathykline7202. What is the language?

    • @kathykline7202
      @kathykline7202 5 месяцев назад

      They arent - dont believe everything you hear. We solved all of them in about an hour. Those are translations from another language - he went there I know because his daughter was born there. I think this is the problem. I always use multiple search engines and it was said on this specific search engine not google. I found out yesterday these are double ciphers. Whats there so far, we got with translating with Google translatior. But that is pretty smart making a second cipher under the first. Besides his identity. He did the same with all misspellings, but you must know the second word to see the clue. Z340 lines 5-20 has the most information.

    • @DeepPocketsEnt
      @DeepPocketsEnt 5 месяцев назад +1

      They're not gibberish, one was just recently (2023?) solved via computer algorithms.

    • @kathykline7202
      @kathykline7202 Месяц назад

      They are REAL. And they are not ciphers.

  • @brookswade5774
    @brookswade5774 5 месяцев назад +1

    The Zodiac included directions to find the body of Donna Lass. The directions took investigators to Donner Pass.

  • @mikeseibert4889
    @mikeseibert4889 6 месяцев назад +6

    There could be all kinds of Zodiac murders out there not known cause not only was he pretty smart but he also switched his M.O. and also back then police agencies didnt work with each other like nowadays.

  • @chrisj2991
    @chrisj2991 5 месяцев назад +1

    Architect, developer, created his own design. Had a huge family. Felt singled out.

  • @peteatkinson3500
    @peteatkinson3500 6 месяцев назад +2

    So many serial killers operating on each others patch during the 60s and 70s.

  • @paulcarpenter999
    @paulcarpenter999 29 дней назад

    Donna's cousin and his wife, also named Donna Lass, lived and worked in Vallejo, near the first two Zodiac crimes. The wife worked in a building 400 feet from the phone booth where Z made his July 5 call to police. Even if Z didn't kill the Tahoe nurse Donna Lass (which I doubt he did), a possible Vallejo connection could have interested him enough to write the 1971 Pines Card.

  • @Chris-uj7wt
    @Chris-uj7wt 6 месяцев назад +1

    Bad clickbait. Old news.

  • @basedjiren3889
    @basedjiren3889 5 месяцев назад +3

    They already found out that his name was Gary Poste and he died several years ago

  • @planetxfilm
    @planetxfilm 5 месяцев назад

    Woa guys, got a few misnomers here. Fouke never spoke to Zodiac at all. That is 100% confirmed. Donna probably isn't Zodiac at this point.

  • @vx4982
    @vx4982 5 месяцев назад +1

    He’s a police officer

    • @kathykline7202
      @kathykline7202 Месяц назад

      His uncle that lived right by him was a police officer. I talked to his coworker, in fact we made friends and talk almost every day about Zodiac.

  • @CaliCurmudgeon
    @CaliCurmudgeon 2 месяца назад

    This is dubious. Only 5 murders can still be definitively tied to Zodiac. And he was known for writing in and taking credit *for events already reported in the newspaper*.

  • @stockholm1752
    @stockholm1752 5 месяцев назад +1

    Bot voice ruined it.

  • @jackfrey47
    @jackfrey47 4 месяца назад

    The Zodiac was never caught for two main reasons. First, there was more than one killer. Second, the entire scenario was the result of MK-Ultra mind control experiments with the goal of making remorseless programmed assassins. The same observation can be made of the Manson Family, which was successful and also helped to vilify the peace movement at the time. It would have been extremely inconvenient to the powers that be to have a court case against any subject where incriminating facts could become part of the official court transcripts.

  • @Early1981
    @Early1981 6 месяцев назад +3

    Click bait

  • @troyheffernan1261
    @troyheffernan1261 5 месяцев назад +1

    Need fresh eyes on the case. And not play his game. Do detective work.

    • @kathykline7202
      @kathykline7202 4 месяца назад

      And this was done, and this was solved, we have even solved the Florida killings. Thats what we did, detective work. I got contacted by different branches of law enforcement, one told me about the match, one -DOJ said if it werent for us they could not solve half of what they do. SFPD told me how the final decisions were made and what they had decided to do. You are safe, now.

  • @MrSocko-bh1jb
    @MrSocko-bh1jb 5 месяцев назад

    Since you asked: I think you are reaching bro! No way she was a Zodiak victim! Those are usually easy to tell or at least fit the general MO of the Zodiak, This woman does neither!

  • @chad3452
    @chad3452 6 месяцев назад +2

    only way zodiac will get the credit is if he gets caught.....larry kane is a great suspect for the murder of donna lass ... i could see this but now we gotta make kane zodi somehow

  • @agnescolmana7916
    @agnescolmana7916 5 месяцев назад

    for visual it would be nice if you put your view in smaller window and larger window with the maps. I can hear you and you are really good at this, but I really want to see that map and it's too small.

  • @danielwebster5748
    @danielwebster5748 4 месяца назад

    Kathleen John's is highly debatable it's highly debatable that she was even abducted. And it is even more highly debatable that the zodiac was the one that done that. How many other female victims did he let escape? Not one besides her they say she needed insurance for a car and that's why it was set on fire.

  • @jonyjoe8464
    @jonyjoe8464 5 месяцев назад

    she owned a nice car thats for sure. But its a stretch that she was a zodiac victim, the zodiac would have bragged about it. I'm surprise they never caught him, he was very dramatic with his letters, mocking the police to catch him. Dirty harry would have gave him appropriate 44 caliber justice, no jury required.

  • @rubenvasquez7627
    @rubenvasquez7627 Месяц назад

    His symbol is the circle equation.

  • @kathykline7202
    @kathykline7202 Месяц назад

    I will also tell you there are many hours of his voice recorded. What he sounds like to me is an angry Popeye, and I heard the spinach jokes already. Its a very unique voice, I never heard a voice quite like his.

  • @evelynwells-rk1ed
    @evelynwells-rk1ed 4 месяца назад

    Two more suspects kjell Qvale or William Joseph Grant the zodiac!

  • @TheBoaphile
    @TheBoaphile 5 месяцев назад

    Nothing new here. Fake click bait.

  • @theone3559
    @theone3559 5 месяцев назад

    They caught a guy years back who was killing and some rape in Santa Cruz Big Basin mountains etc with a .38. could've been him. It was a San Jose man.

  • @paulcarpenter7844
    @paulcarpenter7844 6 месяцев назад +2

    Zodiac never existed

  • @Nerv3D
    @Nerv3D 5 месяцев назад

    just saw a documentary about it
    the killer had a second layer of encrypting his messages, so instead of only swapping letters with symbols, he also laid out his words to be read diagonally across the text, instead of the regular from-left-to-right
    just throwing it out there incase its not mentioned in the video here.
    so most of the letters were solved in 2020 via computer algorhytms where they found out about that.
    but they stated that most of the letters contained the same statements over and over again, like how the killer likes to kill people blabla yadda yadda yadda

    • @kathykline7202
      @kathykline7202 Месяц назад

      He did. Its personal information in Z340. Z13 and Z32 are broken 3 times to get the right answer, that is why he said the same thing twice, it is just a prelude to the real answer, and you just manipulate the language each time. The second time he tells you what letters you need to change. Then do it again the third time, Theres your answer. I am right too. Found his name living in Z340 and Z408.

  • @troyheffernan1261
    @troyheffernan1261 5 месяцев назад

    Go back to her friends. And find out what bars she hung out in. She more than likely a regular.

    • @kathykline7202
      @kathykline7202 4 месяца назад +1

      That is also what we did, Troy, you are right. He was in the same class as Cheri before her death.

  • @twm7514
    @twm7514 5 месяцев назад

    I remember those days and I was about 13. All I can say is my opinion about one thing that linked the zodiac to a very serious news event and of course not the zodiac.

  • @BeerPongxXx
    @BeerPongxXx 5 месяцев назад

    are we sure this not ted Bundy victim

  • @ShunyamNiketana
    @ShunyamNiketana 3 месяца назад

    Don Cheney. He wanted to incriminate Allen.

  • @Jonathan-jj9uj
    @Jonathan-jj9uj 5 месяцев назад

    I have yet another couple of theories, possibilities and potential suspects. But there were, and still are, so many killers doing their thing, it is eady to blur the boundaries.
    One of my suspects relies upon exact details of how they were killed, if they were immobilized somehow first, etc.

  • @TheJoeyG88
    @TheJoeyG88 5 месяцев назад

    Man.... Brynn Andersem was absolutely beautiful her photo is like a Zeitgeist for 1977.
    Godspeed to all the ladies , the world is cruel. 🙏

  • @EricEdLoveless
    @EricEdLoveless 5 месяцев назад

    I will not assert that Donna was not a Zodiac victim, but I would like to point out the “score”. Zodiac claims a count for himself and a count for “SFPD”. In those days police and/or law enforcement jurisdictions were not as cooperative are they are these days. IMO, any count attributed to “SFPD” would be referencing Zodiac’s victims within that PD’s jurisdiction. He could very well have been cross pollinating his victims from a specific jurisdiction with victims in other jurisdictions to confuse investigators.

  • @jimmybeam5445
    @jimmybeam5445 6 месяцев назад

    So, Paul Avery was a “jurnalist,” eh? Thanks for the laugh.

  • @nashobasipokni3628
    @nashobasipokni3628 5 месяцев назад

    I was in Jr. High riding a school bus in the bay area during this, so always interested.

    • @kathykline7202
      @kathykline7202 4 месяца назад

      He was a seniot then. Ramona HIgh, - see match with desk. Then that aries sign on every sigil, that is right on the cover of his yearbook and he illustrated it.

    • @kathykline7202
      @kathykline7202 Месяц назад

      He was a senior at the time and he walked to school with Cheri Jo in Riverside, it was Ramona High that they went to.

  • @j.j.guerrieri5257
    @j.j.guerrieri5257 5 месяцев назад

    The handwriting looks like a right-handed person writing carefully with their left hand. The slant is also slightly to the left instead of the right.

    • @kathykline7202
      @kathykline7202 Месяц назад

      You are right. They let him go very early on because they thought that was his real handwriting. And that is why it took so long to solve, all this time, half a century they thought he was cleared. His name was in the FBI archives, no where else, They took it off when he was identified. Now you may call me any name you like, everyone else has but I am telling you the truth. He was found.

  • @frankserpico6785
    @frankserpico6785 5 месяцев назад +2

    Click bait no new developments.

  • @heatherwilliams5858
    @heatherwilliams5858 6 месяцев назад +1

    This has been solved in my book , they just dont have the smoking gun ... as in , the person who identified him has no certification in it even though facts back the eye witness smh !!!

    • @Trev-jz6yw
      @Trev-jz6yw 6 месяцев назад

      Who do u think it is? I’ve always thought Arthur Lee Allen even tho the “evidence” doesn’t match!

    • @heatherwilliams5858
      @heatherwilliams5858 6 месяцев назад

      @@Trev-jz6yw yes until they can prove.other wise.

    • @kathykline7202
      @kathykline7202 Месяц назад

      Yes they did, and they have recorded testimony directly from him now and a dna match occurred. Florida had the viable dna - it matched directly with Zodiac blood. His name is in Z340 and Z408. Its going to take years to close out the case, they have a room full of paper to go thru.

  • @evelynwells-rk1ed
    @evelynwells-rk1ed 4 месяца назад

    Maybe the presideo was the key to the zodiac killer!

    • @kathykline7202
      @kathykline7202 4 месяца назад

      I have been told by someone on another site that was there at the time the link is Sorrrentos.

  • @SticksAandstonesBozo
    @SticksAandstonesBozo 6 месяцев назад

    Another channel blocked for terrible fake content.

  • @smallies7154
    @smallies7154 6 месяцев назад +2

    I think that after Paul steein he was afraid of getting caught and didn't kill anymore after that

    • @kolchak357
      @kolchak357 5 месяцев назад

      I have always thought the exact same thing.

    • @kathykline7202
      @kathykline7202 5 месяцев назад

      In 75, he went to live abroad and you would know that if David had not missed that word. We dont know if he killed.

    • @kathykline7202
      @kathykline7202 4 месяца назад

      He went to live in the Middle East really starting in 75, but he came back to Riverside later, He has lived in peace since 85 there in his trailer. We do not know what happened there is the real answer.

    • @markmac2206
      @markmac2206 3 месяца назад

      Yeah he taunted them for that one but he was way too close to getting caught.

  • @toniwertman4818
    @toniwertman4818 5 месяцев назад

    Very not like zodiac modus operandi

  • @angelinamiamor
    @angelinamiamor 6 месяцев назад

    Another clickbait???🙄

  • @courtdrebis-jc8ie
    @courtdrebis-jc8ie Месяц назад

    All over the place. BOT.

  • @Beccabombcorn
    @Beccabombcorn 6 месяцев назад

    I lived in los Gatos in the late 70's, went to jr high there

  • @KingBritish
    @KingBritish 6 месяцев назад

    This AI voice is outrageously poor and that's why I won't watch this channel again.

  • @EugeneLorey
    @EugeneLorey 4 месяца назад

    So sick of crime vids with a British accent narrator.

  • @danocable
    @danocable 5 месяцев назад

    Shut up and listen to.!!!

  • @TheWorldisSoDivided
    @TheWorldisSoDivided Месяц назад

    15:02 🧬

  • @brodyberry6253
    @brodyberry6253 6 месяцев назад

    Hell yea!

  • @clairevancleave1508
    @clairevancleave1508 6 месяцев назад +1

    Interesting theories put forth here but, sounds like multiple killers.

  • @Anson120
    @Anson120 6 месяцев назад +1

    If it isnt on the ol nightly news it will not catch my attention.

  • @amandamarinovich6164
    @amandamarinovich6164 6 месяцев назад

    Interesting

  • @Milkman4279
    @Milkman4279 6 месяцев назад +1

    If there was an actual development in the case we probably hear about it on the news, not some randome RUclips channel

    • @kathykline7202
      @kathykline7202 5 месяцев назад

      No you wont, they are keeping things quiet till they investigate more vics. You will later though.

    • @kathykline7202
      @kathykline7202 Месяц назад

      Not yet will they tell you, it will take years more, but they know and have valid testimony and a dna match, the public isnt ready to hear his story, so many people would never believe likie they dont believe me now. Zodiac task force manager was reassigned now. Yes you are really hearing this on some random You Tube channel but you wil lnot hear from LE till later.

  • @HappyWanderer140
    @HappyWanderer140 6 месяцев назад +3

    I'm the Zodiac and so is my wife. This wasn't me. I was washing my hair

  • @kathykline7202
    @kathykline7202 2 месяца назад

    Not true, all ciphers broken his name was found, there was one accomplice, name found that owns keys,. many other things were solved in the past year. What I call the accomplice was the relative who made the costume. He was found, testimony was reccorded and then he died 3 months later. But you never heard it from me. The truth about Chester was found, his cop uncle was found I dont know what more you are looking for - LE is just not ready to tell you all yet. Every cipher was solved. His name was in two of them.
    Take Z408, the first section contains the first name (sf chronicle), middle is 2nd smalles, large hold last name, Take the middle one, this should have a unique middle name, now do you see Francis, no you dont, do you see Parr, no you will not, keep on doing this tll you have checked all suspects, and check the top suspects that were cleared in error, because that is what happened, Once you do this, NOT ONE suspect has this name but the Zodiac killer. You should match on just one suspect then. Do you see Doerr's middle name which is Alfred ? No you do not. Does you see Leigh for ALA ? Nope it is not there. There is only one name like this. One person that has it. This is the Zodiac killer. In fact, he is the only person in Calif that has this middle name.

  • @jenniferbreaux7385
    @jenniferbreaux7385 6 месяцев назад

    Love ur videos

  • @mad_scadd89
    @mad_scadd89 5 месяцев назад

    The zodiac is a myth.

  • @1FokkerAce
    @1FokkerAce 6 месяцев назад

    The Zodiac had to have been a cop.

  • @BobbySlackem-fd1uh
    @BobbySlackem-fd1uh 6 месяцев назад

    Pppl
    Please please don’t click on any zodiac videos that claim recent development or new clues .. sadly it will never be solved because the policing was so awful it’s cringe worthy 😢

    • @kathykline7202
      @kathykline7202 4 месяца назад

      You are incorrect in your statement about solving, and it was really solved by the public recently. And you are right about policing, I mean they really had him and let him go very early on. It was because of handwriting, and he writes multiple ways. His name was in the FBI archives once, and that page pulled when they knew. They thought he had been cleared but they were wrong (FBI) That is exactly why this case has taken so darn long. He identity is known by law enforcement, there was a dna match, and he is not poste. Now its your turn to call me a liar like everyone I say this to. I am not lying !!! He had been turned in by a classmate.

  • @Jay_Cannon
    @Jay_Cannon 5 месяцев назад

    17:35 she went to a party, multiple friends asked her if they could drive her home, she said no to each, then she hitchhiked home. Who would’ve imagined she would’ve been k*lled with that amazing decision making? 🤔

  • @evelynwells-rk1ed
    @evelynwells-rk1ed 4 месяца назад

    There is two more suspects kjell Qvale or William Joseph Grant the zodiac killer!

    • @kathykline7202
      @kathykline7202 4 месяца назад

      Neither, he was an UNKNOWN HIGH SCHOOL KID.

  • @WAYUPDUDE1382
    @WAYUPDUDE1382 6 месяцев назад +1