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but the fact that he admitted to letting one go because he has a sense of morality shows he isn’t psychopathic. the number 1 thing all true psychopaths have in common, is they have no sense of honest emotion. having no emotion, leads to no guilt, which leads to no regret, which leads to no sense of morality.
Probably bullshit, or there would have been more news about this guy somewhere down the line. He gave too much information, too many clues for investigators to piece together and make use of. They would have been after him, but it was probably determined to be a hoax by investigators, or Howard told them it was just a bit they did, perhaps even knowing who 'the caller' was. It sounded as though he was just saying things on the fly to keep it going. They would have figured out where that call came from, especially back then.
@@aguyonastreet This is untrue. Neurotypicals tend to paint sociopaths and psychopaths with a very broad stroke. I am a high functioning sociopath which is pretty much identical to being a psychopath. We have emotions, shallow and fleeting yes but we have them. You think we have no emotions piss a person with aspd off and watch they meticulously ruin your life little by little.
He wouldn't kill himself because he wants to watch the next batman movie, which means he watched Batman and Robin and enjoyed it enough to want a sequel. He really is a monster.
@@ahoward3503 I think they may have believed him but came with the calm and inviting tone to get more info out of him. This is what they do at interrogations. I know they are not proffesional interrogators but they may have still done it on purpose.
Don’t particularly like Howard Stern, but man, he nailed this. Getting this guy to feel comfortable while getting as much information from him as possible was seriously impressive
i agree. i don't really like Howard's shock jock vibe but I have to admit that when you listen to how he talks and questions his guests and this person you do appreciate the skill that he actually has. It is too bad that he went the low brow route for his admittedly hugely successful career as I think he would have been a great, straight interviewer. Now, that I think about it, he probably would not have been allowed to ask the interesting questions in a straight format so the shock route probably allowed for nuggets of truth and honesty. It is too bad they never caught this guy as I am sure he (the killer) would have mentioned it to amp himself up. he's probably dead now from an std, I guess.
I agree. I also liked how periodically he would ask questions about Clay’s appearance. I think Clay purposely remained vague, but I think Howard did pretty good this time.
lol people are so easily manipulated. It's fake bro. No one in their right mind much less a real social path is just going to casually start talking about how many people he's killed through one of the most popular radio shows of all time. The dudes sounds like a guy who got payed to play a role.
The guy called in because he's frustrated at the cops not figuring anything out. He needs recognition and excitement. He regrets not leaving clues like he always wanted to. He's asking to be caught in a way
Yes I sense that too he wants to be like zodiac, ted bundy and other famous serial killers hopefully he turns himself in and gets a movie I would definitely pay to see that.
@@mahmutsala4523 idk at the time the caller knew information the police never released, also Elwood was arrested a year after the call and the killings stoped. I mean take it how you want I guess everyone has there opinions but even if you search Elwood it pops his nicknames and one of them is clay. So I have no idea I mean obviously no one does cause no one is clay but I believe it was Russell
That wasn't anything close to an interrogation, certainly not a complete or even complex one. It sounded like a curious civilian asking simple, non-specific questions to satisfy his own curiosity.
@@generalyellor8188 Howard did ask candid questions that determined that "Clay" does not have tattoos and does not think highly of people that do, he's not huge, but is intimidating, he is white, has two kids, is not married, is a comic book fan, he's white, etc.
@@generalyellor8188 Exactly, it sounded very casual, but it actually revealed a lot of information that could be useful in identifying him. He got the dude to give a rough description of himself, his hunting ground, his preferred victim, his MO, his previous crimes, and his location.
@@generalyellor8188 Maybe not an interrogation, but it revealed a lot of information about the man that could be potentially incriminating against him.
Not far fetched, there is an extremely good chance he’s still alive and still very active in the internet society. I’d be willing to bet this guy was in his early to mid twenties at the time of the call, so he’s probably still in his early fifties.
Would that be of interest for him? Are all psychopaths also narcissists? It didn't sound to me as if he was bragging during the call...and the comments and questions didn't seem to bother him even when Howard talked over him and made some abrupt assumptions...Was attention the only motive of the call...?
Even has a great sense of humor, even better than mine. Being well mannered, friendly and funny is what makes serial killers dangerous. It isn't their size, or weapon of choice, it's their ability to appear to have a good intention and the ability to get you to trust him and go somewhere private with him. That's also why they target hookers, they are easy to bring to a private location because that's the whole point of hiring one and they are literally paid to trust u and let you get really close to them.
@@Nytephyre The reason why I am scared is that "Clay" is the last person you'd expect to do something as horrible as this. Think of him as the normal next-door neighbor whos says hello to you while he's harboring a dark secret... the point of this is that he could have been anybody who would be the last person to be expected to do such horrible things to anybody.
I once gave a lift to a guy late at night and he was all like... arent you afraid that I could be a serial killing psychopath? I said nah, the chances of two serial killing psychopaths in the same van are pretty slim, I laughed and he didnt.
I think any exchange with a serial killer would be weird. I cannot think of any other personality or type of person that would seem more weird in a conversation.
"If I killed myself I'd miss the next Batman movie." The most recent Batman movie released before the call was Batman & Robin. Surprised he didn't kill himself after watching that travesty.
This world is scary, imagine casually having a great conversation with someone thinking that they are such a cool person. But your actually talking to a serial killer
I worked with an infamous serial killer. Not saying his name but he was a very quiet and what I thought a sweet person. Never in my life would thought he was a killer
It’s part of Howard’s overall style to treat everybody else as “equals” in some sense, to not have any regard for societal taboos. He lets all kinds of weird people onto his show and it makes everybody feel less awful about themselves (especially in the 90s which felt more Puritan than it does now).
Stern is honestly a pro though. When it comes to asking questions there really aren't that many better. He tried to create a profile but might've tipped the guy off when he asked about tattoos because of when in the conversation it happened.
Yeah the first comment hit the nail on the head. The stern show was known to let all sorts of strange people on the show to have casual conversations and not show a bias one way or the other. Which is why stern more or less just leads the conversation further instead of acting appalled at what he just said etc. this is the way journalists should be.
People thought Howard and Robin were complacent with the severity of this, but they got his voice, area of operation, white male, single, father, no tattoos, frequents a specific area for prostitutes, weapon of choice, link to open cases… they were subtle with their attempts to extract info while also keeping him talking.
@@joseanthompson9069 they made an effort, Howard stern isn’t a detective and any lead or evidence is good. I think Howard stern and Robin did and incredible job staying calm and not joke or belittle him and they kept him talking.
In reality that's a ton of info to narrow a suspect, I noticed that too that a good bit of Howard's questions were geared towards creating a physical description. He must have at least had a suspicion this guy might not be joking. Whether this ended up bieng real or not, the truth is there are those people out there right now who have done/still doing these things right under our noses & still walking free. People think the weird quiet dude is always the culprit but the funny thing is it seems to be the ones who blend in and you'd never suspect besides maybe little red flags AFTER they got caught. True fear what you don't know!
What creeps me out the most about this interview is near the end, when "Clay" is describing what he says to his victims before murdering them. His voice and tone are very light up until then, almost joking around, until he starts to say how prostitutes piss him off and how he questions them if they know what they're doing is dangerous. You can hear the anger and poison start to come through in his voice... so creepy. Gives me the chills.
It was this guy... "Russell Ellwood is the man many believe to be "Clay the Serial Killer", the man who called The Howard Stern Show in 1997 and confessed to killing 12 women. In 1998, Russell Ellwood stood trial for the 1993 murders of Cheryl Lewis, 30, of Bridge City, and Deloras Mack, 40, of Metairie."
They probably piss him off because people like "Clay" are similar to prostitutes in that they both vie for power over their subjects. Prostitutes are practically begging to get murdered by people like "Clay". It just makes sense, and it doesn't take a psychologist to understand the logic.
@@thehuntressdanni2972 it’s just what adults say bro. I’ve never met an adult who hasn’t said that video games cause vicious tendencies. serial killers are made either from mental health issues or abusive childhood la
Whenever people decided to act a Karen, I always say Law 19: Know Who You Are Dealing With - Do Not Offend The Wrong Person. Sometimes all it is is a Batman movie keeping them hinged. Inb4 misinterpretation
Notice how Howard was trying to ask the most incriminating questions possible. Age, look, race, location, any distinctive marks like tattoos or scars. So hopefully cops could get something from it. Smarter then he looks (and sometimes acts)
Yeah ikr, he did it so well the killer Doesn't feel threatened or anything like that. It's just fascinating to me somehow about how People's mind work sometimes.
This conversation was actually scary because he made it like such a casual conversation like everyone does this.if i was howard i would be absolutely freaking out
he probably was but he had to shut that off. this does not happen every day and i guess you gotta keep it cool & try to see where the conversation goes. Theres no danger at least...?
This is a good example of something a lot of investigators have done with serial killers being heard in action; Ask them a question then answer it for them with the wrong answer on purpose... Get their ego to correct you.
It's a proven tactic for business negotiations or sales. When something is keeping a deal from closing, you mention an issue or problem you know isn't what is holding the other person back. By inserting the wrong assumption ("I'm guessing the time turnaround is what's keeping you from buying," etc) they instinctively feel the need to correct you, and it draws out the real reason they havent said yet. If you sell a product or service, and cant figure out what makes someone pull the trigger, get it wrong on purpose. The same applies to arguments and negotiations for anything in life, if you want to know what someone is thinking. Be wrong on purpose, watch them clarify things.
Probably because while most serial killers try hard to seem like psychopath in their confessions, Clay sounds genuine and doesn't try to sound like a psycho.
Deep down they want to admit. They feel they need to confess, which is probably why he would tell the women he was going to kill them. But, it's not the same. It's not real attention and who are they? They'll be gone anyways so, and to him, they're not important anyways. It's not uncommon for someone like that to call into a radio show or whatever because they get their 15 mins. of fame. He'll do it again and if he hasn't really been caught, I'm sure he's bumped his numbers up since the call. He'll probably continue until something big causes him to stop, he's caught, gets too old to do it, or developes physical limitations. These people are mental screwed. He doesn't know why he really does it because there's something wrong with the noodle. It's not anything in mainstream media or entertainments fault, either. Crazy people watch tv and read, too. It's not an influence, it's a drive they already developed. The tone, the way he spoke, and what he said. Yeah, I bet dude was serious. He did give too much info about himself but, he is pretty sure he hasn't got caught, at least around that time. I mean, he's been doing it since he was 16. He didn't say how old he was. At least he was smart enough about that.
he reminds me of patrick bateman from american psycho he makes prostitude do stuff and kill them too and by the end of the movie he also confessed but no one believed him and he never got caught you should watch that movie guys i didnt think it was possible someone like him could ezxist irl
@@coldfizzy9980 i don’t think he’s that clever. Like at one point he says “ex-fiance” implying they never properly got married, I doubt he said that as some sort of red herring.
He sounded so disappointed that his the murder went unnoticed. These women disappear and no one notices is so sad and that fact probably makes killers like him embolden to kill more.
Probably not. There was a documentary I saw a while back that matched everything this caller said, even the police officer suspect and the ages of the victims. Guy had a red sports car and used that to show off and lure in his victims, kept picking them up from the same spot, and that's how he got caught.
You can tell the shock in the caller's voice when he realizes he's talking to Stern and therefor live on air. Don't think this was fake, this guy was legit a murderer.
Howard handled this perfectly, ngl. He kept asking questions for a very specific reason: Keep him on the line longer so hes occupied, and can be traced. It's an unreal level of mental strength to hear this without showing much of a reaction
People say he's calm, but you can hear the shakiness in his voice. Hes getting anxious and his heart rate is up. Most likely because he has never described his killings in such detail.
Dude, I just... really have to appreciate how Howard kept control of this. He fully interrogated this guy without ever making it feel that way. He kept total composure, immediately built rapport, made him comfy, and he answered every, single, question. I have a lot of feelings about Stern, but I can't deny, he really did a good job here.
@@mcdonaldsicecreammachine8917 Ok but and? You say that simply because he doesn't match our societal built ethics and morals. But the truth is he is human just like you and me. Really sad how we treat these people and our best solution is to locked them up and make them slaves. Ah the hypocrisy. Oh well it is what it is.
@Nate Cross have you heard of that one black guy that killed over 70 people (I think that’s the number) Samuel something I think. This was decades ago and he can still remember their faces, draw them, and can recount several details. Some people get off on this kind of stuff and will never forget like a normal person recollecting on an important event in the past.
Yeah that was some weirdass conversation. It was like, 'how do you handle when someone's being impolite'. I''ll just cut their throats. Easy does it. Then they are quiet after that.
Im surprised with this social media someone doesn't recognize this guy's voice and alert authorities with his name because now it's in front of the world publicly to hear him.
Howard got "Clay" to drop several things about him like he's white, no tattoos, approximate age and who he seeks out without him even realizing it. Very slick
Yeah, and look where it got the Feebs....? Exactly nowhere. Serial killers love targeting Hookers cos nobody gives a shit about them. If this guy had been murdering High School Girls, the Cops would have moved heaven and earth to find him. He was obviously heavily in to Comics and the Comic book scene, I would have thought that was a great place to start. This was 1997 remember, before the internet really took off, so he had to be buying in person either in store or by post. They knew a rough area where he lived. They knew shit like his car had recently broken down and that he had kids etc...... Cops should have rolled this guy up easily......
Nah the killer knew some of the questions Howard was asking where traps. For all we know he could have tattoos & etc ...... Just saying. But Howard was smart to start asking in a low key way
Unfortunately, none of the info that the guy gives about himself would really help narrow down a suspect pool to any less than thousands of guys in the New Orleans area.
@@nickmaclachlan5178 yeah but still there were no specifics especialy cuzz he moved from state to state .His car broke down but how and what kinda car? and keeps it random .And the comic book refferences can also be a throw off. He doenst give any specific detail. not once
I love that he was discretely getting information about him. He was white, no tattoos, locations, his alias... That showed some great control of the conversation on Howard's part.
The thing is the guy is clearly a psychopath and honestly most likely extremely intelligent as well, so he can probably lie about everything and be able to back it up with a good degree of believability
i think the guy called knowing that howard would ask those questions. he even mentioned how he wanted to give clues for his murders, this was clearly his way of doing that. he also could have lied with everything he said to through law enforcement off further
And he got him to keep talking because he didn’t come at him as a judge mental thing. He just interviewed him like he was a person. If Howard attacked him. Called him names he would of ended the conversation.
Pointless. It was so obvious that everyone who listened to it knew what he was doing. Even you all mentioned it was being a paranoid killer on the loose
FBI says at any given time there are 25-50 active serial killers in the USA alone. Probably countless more in countries that don't have the resources to track them. I am certain that there are serial killers who have left the US and other countries and go to countries in southeast Asia, South and Central America, Mexico, eastern Europe, Africa, etc. to kill freely or just vacation there specifically to kill. Think about how easy it is to get away with murder in Honduras, El Salvador, Guatemala, Colombia, or Mexico where they have huge gang problems and cartels and not enough police who aren't on a gang or cartel payroll to investigate crimes, especially a dead prostitute. Risk is that serial killers, unless they are hitmen or cartel affiliated locals, are usually not actually tough people, they usually prey on the weak where as gang killing hardens you as a person and its very matter of fact and part of every day business, so some soft white guy from the USA isn't going to have a good experience in prison with real, hardened criminals. El Salvador or Honduras that is a very bad situation. Unless the killer has ties to high level organized crime they probably aren't walking out of one of those prisons. Gangs like to show that they have some sort of and ethical code so if you kill women, children, abuse or rape women or children, especially as a white guy in someone else's country, you're probably going to be made example of.
I can't believe nobody recognised him after an interview. He willingly shared a lot of information and just bu the shear time he was just talking, there must be somebody that can go "Hey, that's Johny! I know this guy!"
It might not be legit though, there are a lot of fantasists out there, for a fantasist this call would have been gratifying. He sounds insane so I guess we will never know.
He even disclosed the area in new orleans, there's a chance the guy was just making things up, sharing fantasies and talking about them as if they happened in real life. This could be a case of American Psycho before the movie in 2000
@@brettpilkington9539 Even so, it's still odd that no one has ever heard this and recognized him, whether he's actually a killer... I would think someone would contact the police and say, 'The guy on the Howard Stern Show was ____."
It actually tells us a lot about his state of mind. He didn't even acknowledge or double take or even stutter at the accusation and instead was more focused on getting his name right
“Clay” was LOVING the attention which is why he was so open to talking about what he did. You see how excited he was when he realized he was actually talking to Howard?
I know it's TV, but Criminal Minds is pretty accurate regarding Unsub psychology. Power and attention are what most want. It seems so weird because most people would think that all traces would be covered up, but many do the opposite. They leave clues in hopes people see their handiwork. It's really disturbing stuff.
Zodiac killer in San Francisco loved the attention with his many letters and cryptograms and then it just stopped. Do you think he died or moved on to other areas?
If you watch interviews with some of the most prolific and notorious killers in history, they're all just like this guy. No drama, no antics, just flat, straight to the point, no hesitation. It's quite chilling. I'm pretty sure "Clay" was being straight up honest.
even if it's fake, i'm sure there are plenty real ones out there i mean, apparently real ones who have been caught have done as much revealing stuff to get attention and theatre
well i do check wht he was tellin..since this was recorded back on 97...i found an article about black police officer on 95 became a suspect for mutiple homicide in new orleans..well...seems legit..
@@TheRealKimberlyThomas if you're trying to insinuate men get away with crimes, they actually get much longer sentences than women for the same exact crime, it's statistically proven, so idk what you're on about
It was pretty believable, he seemed to not try to give over the top answers, and correct certain assumptions that would have served his ego if he just went along with it… but who knows.
@@JKaiserable I agree. I feel like most people would’ve made it obvious if they were lying but this dude just seemed like he was telling the truth and wanted to get it off his chest. Like maybe he wanted to get caught.
lawrence shadow nah, this sounds like they just pulled this fish out of the sea of callers and they realized they had something to possibly deal with. There’s no laughter in almost any of this.
The scariest part is their unpredictability. All of us could be standing next to or, near a killer right now and wouldn't even know if he's/she's a killer.
Some of us are looking in mirror at one. Never know what is going to happen and if you act accordingly, murder could be an option. Not an ideal one but could be depending on what goes down
LOL england had/has some of the worst......ever heard of the wests? Ian brady & Myra hindley? The Yorkshire ripper? Granted the U.S has had alot more but let's not forget....england kind of kicked that serial killer shit off with jack the ripper LOL, there are serial killers ALL OVER, they dont discriminate country's LOL...
Well back then maybe, serial killers were common but even so like maybe 1 out of 200,000 people was 1. Thats just a guess, so its not likely especially today with advance in technology serial killers dont really exist, serial killer would be lucky to reach 5 victims today.
We need to find the guy who told clay “I know it was you” jokingly. That’s the biggest loose end from this call. If he heard this he’d know exactly who it was if it was his friend he was joking with
@@davidreyna202 well tbh as someone with menta heath knowledge it does seem like he’s struggling with his mental health bc this isn’t even really close to misogyny or anything similar to misogyny. It’s more feeling some pent up emotion one doesn’t understand and ends up impulsively taking a life and may continue with the action. It’s more of an impulsive act to be honest since he said he didn’t feel any satisfaction but just did it. And he mentioned that he could control himself after awhile. So yea
@@bigcity420 yeah but he did a damn good job feeding that guys narcissism and curiosity. That’s really the only way to get a person of that nature to open up and be even somewhat truthful bc you’re playing their game, deceiving the deceiver. They always think ppl are like “ah man you murdered innocent ppl you’re so cool tell me about it!?” Like nah bruh they hate you and they want you to admit to shit to keep you away forever😂
I don’t think they believed it at first but later on he was trying to get the guy to identify himself like asking if he was a big guy his age an race where he kill the women etc
He just likes being a villain. The mention for calling him Clay, the batman movie, the methods of using the hammer by a book, the "running game", even "clues to baffle people" and finally the whole fact that he was the one who called the program to talk about what he did. He wanted to slowly be recognized and feel like a villain. As this wasn't being achieved naturally, he felt the need to make himself known and so he called. He was just a horrible, needy killer.
He does it for power,the dropping of little hints makes him feel more empowered, look at thread and how many people have watched this. In nearly all superhero movies or comics there is nearly always a twist, something that makes you go wow....that is what this person was hoping to be.
Yeah, he's one for sure. Also the talk on the way he kills. How he mentions the hammer. It only takes one hit. He gives details in a way , he must be doing this action for real.
I know exactly what murders he is talking about. What gave it away is when he said they thought it was a cop that had been involved with the victims. A lot of ppl still think that. Apparently some of the girls were allegedly snitches and worked with some cop. Ppl suspected it was a few cops actually. This is friggin bizarre. If he's telling the truth then ppl are wrongly being suspected.
I like how Howard acts like he isn't really believing this, yet he still asks questions about information that the police can use, while not being super obvious about it. The guy could have lied about some answers however. But I think this guy was for real.
He avoided alot of the questions Howard asked. Like when Howard asked if he's white, he make a joke instead. Or when Robin asked where Are you. Or when he asked if he's a big guy. All three of these can help identify a suspect. He's legit
@@gonkdroid8749 The part where he gets upset because the prostitutes blow off the question about danger is telling. There is a lot of odd but genuine emotion in his voice. Somebody faking this wouldn't have that in their voice or think to put it in.
I know Howard has taken a lot of flack for his show over the years, justified or not, that still doesn't take away from the fact that he knows how to do an interview. Besides being a shock jock and all that he has made a very successful living on keeping people talking on the air.
@@chrispalahicky8169 He certainly is good at what he does. I don't like the shock stuff really, but he is good at asking questions and talking to people.
@@danielflanard8274 prostitution can be murder.. I mean not necessarily considered.. but if someone gets a disease or has to have an abortion.. murder is definitely wrong but why would you be a hooker when you know the consequences just be prepared..
@@ttkbaby5339 To revisit something you said "for your own pleasure", sex workers don't enjoy the sex, it's not for personal gratification. I assure you that their clientele are not individuals anyone would want to sleep with, without the financial aspect. It's an incredibly dangerous profession because of predators like that nutbag; society and law enforcement as a whole don't care if they dissappear off the face of the Earth which is why he was able to kill so many women without getting caught. Sex workers are human beings. To be honest, it's disturbing that you picked here and now to devalue their existence. Prostitution is not murder nor is it comparable to murder. You can make the argument that STDs and Abortion are murder, but neither of them are prostitution, so that argument is irrelevant.
I don’t actually reread the same book over and over, day after day, minute after minute. Further more I can’t see it and I am not the one doing it. I would be horrified I was reading it, not celebrating that I am doing it…yes, video gamers ARE violent and allow people to experience being violent….
yeah, but the pause after he told him, there he picks up the girls..or that he did not ask that or why his car broke down and how he fixed it. or if he did tell somebody about it before, maybe with hints..
anybody who knows how big howards ego is could see this coming miles away, howard wanting to get credit for catching a serial killer...im sure the killer was well aware of howard fishing for physical descriptors
If the caller was smart enough he probably lied about a few details that could identify him, like for example the timings, like when his car broke down, when his last murder was etc. Maybe even lying about the "black police officer" thing, that could have been about different murders and he was just trying to confuse investigators that could be investigating that case or his.
@@BaldMancTwat well, he is ‘smart’ enough. I can’t stand to give serial killers the credit of being smart, so I will call ‘Clay’ intellectual in his pursuit of committing serial murder. Hope they catch this monster!
@@kennethwood88 right?!? The accuracy of his story from beginning to end was just on point. I feel like Howard tried to mess up on purpose. But he corrected them every time.
@@yohanesparuntu4980 yes he seemed matter of fact about it, a part that made me hmm was when he wasn't giving any example to what he says to them but said "well I could say" instead "well I've said" & given an example of one the the 12 times. or he's at very good at improv, or fantasies a little to much and has his story/comics written & memorised but it definitely gives of the i think he could be telling the truth vibes when many calls/videos like this i probably wouldn't believe.
@@ScottishAnnie yeah, I picked up on that. Richard Kuklinsky did that a little bit too though, if I remember correctly. And of course we know he did it…
It’s weird hearing him talk so casually and joke around about it. The batman joke made me laugh cause it caught me off guard. It’s crazy to think about what goes on in their heads where they themselves self-admittedly don’t know.
Yeah, some people are very numb to what they do and you never know until they get caught what is going on in their head. He said he had a normal childhood, but was it " his version" of what normal is or just actually normal like everyone else. ? I like how they were able to get away with asking questions with him. I do hope if it's true he gets caught. 😟
@@Salena905 yeah exactly. Just think about Ted Bundy, or Jeffrey Dahmer. They went to hang out with people After they did things like this, and the people said they acted completely normal and had no idea what they were capable of doing whenever they wanted to do it, and they were smart enough to not get caught for a long time
A serial killer who planned how he’d do it starting with his first, left clues, still has never been identified and got away with it, and kept calm while discussing it on a radio talk show… this is the type of murderers that are truly dangerous. Every day people that you never suspect, charisma, humor, and just completely mask their intentions and emotions. Be careful people. You never know.
Just one thing. He talks about the first murder leaving clues. Howard asks what kind of clues. He says thumb paint with their thumb. He saw it in a comic book a couple years ago. So we are to assume he's killed 12 people within a couple years as he was talking about his first murder. We are to also assume since his first murder was at age 16, that would make him 19 at the time of this call. If a couple years is 3. All assumptions ofcourse.
Stromitty no lmao I say uh all the time while I’m talking it’s just a part of adhd and or slow processing speed due to your mind being somewheres else while listening
And he was having none of that. Didn't say where he was dumping the bodies, or where he committed the murders and didn't admit to having any tattoos. What he said is that he was an intimidating-looking white man, not even his age became known.
@@bernatkun8069 Well he gave up his location, the general spot where hookers hang out in this town, he said he was white, has no tattoos, and that someone he knew joked about it being him. So if that someone were to hear this audio and recall them joking about that, they could point out the guy easily.
@@OwningPro Where did he say he was white? I see Howard asking directly, but 'Clay' evades giving a direct answer, and says "uh yeah Howard that's pretty funny ...(5:07)".
you can really feel the relief he feels getting it off his chest. He doesn’t try to be like the zodiac killer or ted bundy. He just does it as a sorta hobby and just never told anyone. He told his story and still never been caught. Monsters definitely exist.
The chilling part is that he sounds like any other person. Howard is speaking to him as if he’s just his friend. That’s terrifying that there’s people out there like that and you might not even know it.
You should read up in ted bundy. Also, ed kemper turned himself in because the cops wasn’t figuring out it was him. He was friends with a lot of the cops.
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Someone who doesn't try hard to pretend he's psychopathic are the real deal psychopaths. This dude was 100% telling the truth
but the fact that he admitted to letting one go because he has a sense of morality shows he isn’t psychopathic. the number 1 thing all true psychopaths have in common, is they have no sense of honest emotion. having no emotion, leads to no guilt, which leads to no regret, which leads to no sense of morality.
Cool story bro
Probably bullshit, or there would have been more news about this guy somewhere down the line. He gave too much information, too many clues for investigators to piece together and make use of. They would have been after him, but it was probably determined to be a hoax by investigators, or Howard told them it was just a bit they did, perhaps even knowing who 'the caller' was. It sounded as though he was just saying things on the fly to keep it going.
They would have figured out where that call came from, especially back then.
@@aguyonastreet This is untrue. Neurotypicals tend to paint sociopaths and psychopaths with a very broad stroke. I am a high functioning sociopath which is pretty much identical to being a psychopath. We have emotions, shallow and fleeting yes but we have them. You think we have no emotions piss a person with aspd off and watch they meticulously ruin your life little by little.
I think he was telling the truth too
He wouldn't kill himself because he wants to watch the next batman movie, which means he watched Batman and Robin and enjoyed it enough to want a sequel. He really is a monster.
I’m still laughing at this comment
@@mrmindtrick99 it's only been 4 hours, give it some more time
fr batman and robin was fkn terrible
i’m mortified
Don't disrespect monsters like that
"You haven't killed any prostitutes?"
"No, I never said my name was Ed."
Phew, glad we got that cleared up.
Otherwise it would have been really awkward
Ed Kumpdumpster is who I'm assuming you're referencing to?
I lol'd at that part
🤣 😂 right. That caught me off guard
@@garenreynolds8409 you misunderstood the whole comment
i love how they basically congratulate him for going a year without murder
Yeah I thought the same, his tone of voice 😂😂😂
Whoa this is nuts
I feel like they didn't actually believe him and that's why they were so casual with the conversation
@@ahoward3503 I think they may have believed him but came with the calm and inviting tone to get more info out of him. This is what they do at interrogations. I know they are not proffesional interrogators but they may have still done it on purpose.
Better than encouraging him to go on a bender i guess.
Don’t particularly like Howard Stern, but man, he nailed this. Getting this guy to feel comfortable while getting as much information from him as possible was seriously impressive
i agree. i don't really like Howard's shock jock vibe but I have to admit that when you listen to how he talks and questions his guests and this person you do appreciate the skill that he actually has. It is too bad that he went the low brow route for his admittedly hugely successful career as I think he would have been a great, straight interviewer. Now, that I think about it, he probably would not have been allowed to ask the interesting questions in a straight format so the shock route probably allowed for nuggets of truth and honesty.
It is too bad they never caught this guy as I am sure he (the killer) would have mentioned it to amp himself up. he's probably dead now from an std, I guess.
I agree. I also liked how periodically he would ask questions about Clay’s appearance. I think Clay purposely remained vague, but I think Howard did pretty good this time.
lol people are so easily manipulated. It's fake bro. No one in their right mind much less a real social path is just going to casually start talking about how many people he's killed through one of the most popular radio shows of all time. The dudes sounds like a guy who got payed to play a role.
@@RurouniKenshinShinta
“No one in their right mind” See, here’s the thing old buddy old pal, sociopaths aren’t in their right mind.
@@notthesamecc1927 stick liberal media u weak little child you couldn’t handle Howard and his prime you couldn’t handle it now
"Do you have any tattoos?"
"No, I wouldn't do that to myself"
Well, I guess everyone has their limits.
“Well if I wanted to I could just say “bababooey”
Tattoos are identifying features, and that is what he doesn’t want
If he puts a tattoo on himself it would make it easier for him to get caught, that’s what he probably meant by that
I treasure my own skin undamaged. Tattoos are ugly and looks dirty. That's what i feel. Maybe that's with him.
@@LGTwins23 many consider them damaging and ugly. I would never do that to my own skin. The way he reasoned his decision is because of that.
“If I killed myself I’d miss the next Batman movie”
The summary of a psychopath in one sentence.
I’m sure he killed himself after seeing Batman and Robin
I dont think psychopaths sit down to watch a movie.
@@malakaijudah Why not? They are capable of totally dispassionate behaviour. He probably hugged his grandma before he went out.
Well fuck I guess I should call a radio show
this is literally me when thinking of why i should live to tomorrow lmao, except with marvel.
He’s dying for recognition, he’s trying too hard - what a narcissist
Just a lost sheep longing for its saviour.
@@daddythefather3099and that savior is God not Jesus
Jesus is God@@egyptianflatearther6495
Women make the most stupid comments
*Exactly.*
The guy called in because he's frustrated at the cops not figuring anything out. He needs recognition and excitement. He regrets not leaving clues like he always wanted to. He's asking to be caught in a way
Yes I sense that too he wants to be like zodiac, ted bundy and other famous serial killers hopefully he turns himself in and gets a movie I would definitely pay to see that.
He got caught Russell Elwood look it up!
@@clayton_4897 stop spreading fake rumours.
@@clayton_4897 the caller wasn't Russell Elwood. Elwood strangled his victims. "Clay" used a hammer.
@@mahmutsala4523 idk at the time the caller knew information the police never released, also Elwood was arrested a year after the call and the killings stoped. I mean take it how you want I guess everyone has there opinions but even if you search Elwood it pops his nicknames and one of them is clay. So I have no idea I mean obviously no one does cause no one is clay but I believe it was Russell
The way they handled it so calmly keeping him on the line and gathering info was CRAZY bro..
cant imagine they thought the dude was being genuine
"So....... do you have any tattoos"? 🤔 lol 😭
They didn’t give a shit was more interested rather than trying to catch the suspect it’s Howard lol
@@jaymac7203 That's smart asf tho, it narrows the suspect pool for law enforcement
@@SkreetJeebus people are so gullible
Same ones that think HA Prison Run is real believe shit like this
Massive respect to Howard for conducting a rather productive interrogation without making it sound like an interrogation.
That wasn't anything close to an interrogation, certainly not a complete or even complex one. It sounded like a curious civilian asking simple, non-specific questions to satisfy his own curiosity.
@@generalyellor8188 maybe so, but props to Howard for conducting himself professionally with the man.
@@generalyellor8188 Howard did ask candid questions that determined that "Clay" does not have tattoos and does not think highly of people that do, he's not huge, but is intimidating, he is white, has two kids, is not married, is a comic book fan, he's white, etc.
@@generalyellor8188 Exactly, it sounded very casual, but it actually revealed a lot of information that could be useful in identifying him. He got the dude to give a rough description of himself, his hunting ground, his preferred victim, his MO, his previous crimes, and his location.
@@generalyellor8188 Maybe not an interrogation, but it revealed a lot of information about the man that could be potentially incriminating against him.
I wonder how many times this guy watched this video and scrolled through this comment section
once per a half year
Not far fetched, there is an extremely good chance he’s still alive and still very active in the internet society. I’d be willing to bet this guy was in his early to mid twenties at the time of the call, so he’s probably still in his early fifties.
+1 right now
He was caught. Google it and you'll find out. @angeldesigns1385
Would that be of interest for him? Are all psychopaths also narcissists? It didn't sound to me as if he was bragging during the call...and the comments and questions didn't seem to bother him even when Howard talked over him and made some abrupt assumptions...Was attention the only motive of the call...?
This "Clay" fella actually comes across as a well mannered and very friendly guy.....THAT is what makes him so dangerous
Even has a great sense of humor, even better than mine. Being well mannered, friendly and funny is what makes serial killers dangerous. It isn't their size, or weapon of choice, it's their ability to appear to have a good intention and the ability to get you to trust him and go somewhere private with him. That's also why they target hookers, they are easy to bring to a private location because that's the whole point of hiring one and they are literally paid to trust u and let you get really close to them.
That is way more scarier than horror movies
I thought it was the killing…
Could also be a prank caller
@@Nytephyre The reason why I am scared is that "Clay" is the last person you'd expect to do something as horrible as this. Think of him as the normal next-door neighbor whos says hello to you while he's harboring a dark secret... the point of this is that he could have been anybody who would be the last person to be expected to do such horrible things to anybody.
I once gave a lift to a guy late at night and he was all like... arent you afraid that I could be a serial killing psychopath? I said nah, the chances of two serial killing psychopaths in the same van are pretty slim, I laughed and he didnt.
He probably shat his pants lol
idk bout that one man
not the 1st time I heard that joke
Old as hell joke.
lololol
That was a weird exchange
Howard: “Dude, you’re a serial killer!”
Clay: “Yeah.”
Howard: “Yeah.”
I think any exchange with a serial killer would be weird. I cannot think of any other personality or type of person that would seem more weird in a conversation.
Me in a gta lobby to my friend who’s a level 150:
@@rafaela.4645
150? Lol did he start playing yesterday?
@@richbrake9910 well yeah ofc, but that was has an eerie feeling to it
Howard was probably trying to see how he would respond to being called a serial killer
I like how Howard slips in ‘Man, that makes you heartless’ real quick before asking his next question
The scary part about this is the fact that people like Clay live among us. We probably cross paths with them everyday and NEVER realize it
AMONG US??
Sus
amogus
Yeah
You probably work with them ull be surprised lol
"If I killed myself I'd miss the next Batman movie."
The most recent Batman movie released before the call was Batman & Robin. Surprised he didn't kill himself after watching that travesty.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
💀💀💀💀
LMAO.
DAYUM 😂😂😂
Maybe he did and that’s why he wasn’t caught
That awkward moment when you're more offended to be called 'Ed' than accused of killing prostitutes.
It's a bad time to be named Ed.
It’s because he’s accepted he does it. To him it’s just another thing he does.
ED as in Erectile Dysfunction lol
Well this was 2 years before Ed, Ed N Eddy soo, fair point lol
ed sheeran.
Ed mayonese
This world is scary, imagine casually having a great conversation with someone thinking that they are such a cool person. But your actually talking to a serial killer
I worked with an infamous serial killer. Not saying his name but he was a very quiet and what I thought a sweet person. Never in my life would thought he was a killer
@@kikiraven1 can you tell more about him?
1 out of 100 people are psychopaths, you’ve probably met a lot more scary people than you think
It’s quite possible that you’ve done that before without realizing it.
"Is this Ed?"
"No."
"You haven't killed any prostitutes?"
"No, I never said my name was Ed."
"Oh"
Haha yeah like that was the issue 😅
he was worried about the name 😅
This would made a good podcast had he not been an actual killer... bruh ffs 🤦♂️ wtf bro..
😂😂😂
@Rod Munsch he doesn't know what a weisenhamer is....and neither do I
I love the sense of Normality between them, like they're literally talking to a Serial killer and they just go "Yeah.."
It’s part of Howard’s overall style to treat everybody else as “equals” in some sense, to not have any regard for societal taboos. He lets all kinds of weird people onto his show and it makes everybody feel less awful about themselves (especially in the 90s which felt more Puritan than it does now).
Yeah
Stern is honestly a pro though. When it comes to asking questions there really aren't that many better. He tried to create a profile but might've tipped the guy off when he asked about tattoos because of when in the conversation it happened.
Yeah the first comment hit the nail on the head. The stern show was known to let all sorts of strange people on the show to have casual conversations and not show a bias one way or the other. Which is why stern more or less just leads the conversation further instead of acting appalled at what he just said etc. this is the way journalists should be.
Well put it this way they clearly think he’s full of shit, I’d have the same reaction.
People thought Howard and Robin were complacent with the severity of this, but they got his voice, area of operation, white male, single, father, no tattoos, frequents a specific area for prostitutes, weapon of choice, link to open cases… they were subtle with their attempts to extract info while also keeping him talking.
Didn’t matter cause they still never caught him.
@@joseanthompson9069 they made an effort, Howard stern isn’t a detective and any lead or evidence is good. I think Howard stern and Robin did and incredible job staying calm and not joke or belittle him and they kept him talking.
In reality that's a ton of info to narrow a suspect, I noticed that too that a good bit of Howard's questions were geared towards creating a physical description. He must have at least had a suspicion this guy might not be joking. Whether this ended up bieng real or not, the truth is there are those people out there right now who have done/still doing these things right under our noses & still walking free. People think the weird quiet dude is always the culprit but the funny thing is it seems to be the ones who blend in and you'd never suspect besides maybe little red flags AFTER they got caught. True fear what you don't know!
@@Bb186fo he’s 100 percent telling the truth he might of lied about some details to not give himself away but he’s definitely killed
@@joseanthompson9069 didn’t matter cuz it was Batman and robin
What creeps me out the most about this interview is near the end, when "Clay" is describing what he says to his victims before murdering them. His voice and tone are very light up until then, almost joking around, until he starts to say how prostitutes piss him off and how he questions them if they know what they're doing is dangerous. You can hear the anger and poison start to come through in his voice... so creepy. Gives me the chills.
It was this guy...
"Russell Ellwood is the man many believe to be "Clay the Serial Killer", the man who called The Howard Stern Show in 1997 and confessed to killing 12 women. In 1998, Russell Ellwood stood trial for the 1993 murders of Cheryl Lewis, 30, of Bridge City, and Deloras Mack, 40, of Metairie."
His voice sounded shaky too which also makes it creepy. Dude was possessed
I wish that Howard or Robyn would have asked him why he gets angry? When the women start downplaying the dangers why would it make him angry?
They probably piss him off because people like "Clay" are similar to prostitutes in that they both vie for power over their subjects. Prostitutes are practically begging to get murdered by people like "Clay". It just makes sense, and it doesn't take a psychologist to understand the logic.
@@Pamela_Lopezsits always connected to some type of dtsfunction with women. Incel behavior
Adults: “it’s video games that make serial killers”
Clay: “I got the idea from a comic”
So what video game do you suppose Ted Bundy was playing? Or Manson? Or Jim Jones etc?
@@thehuntressdanni2972 it’s just what adults say bro. I’ve never met an adult who hasn’t said that video games cause vicious tendencies. serial killers are made either from mental health issues or abusive childhood la
He take the idea, not the intention
Same thing different times
As… hole video game books, Netflix anything can Fck people minds…
"If I kill myself I´ll miss the next batman movie" the fact that he answered like that, and so quickly, shows he´s really telling the truth. Insane.
Ye hes rlly into that
Bro I don’t wanna miss the next Batman movie tho
This was in 1997 so he is talking about Batman and Robin I'm sure he wishes he never watched it
Whenever people decided to act a Karen, I always say Law 19: Know Who You Are Dealing With - Do Not Offend The Wrong Person.
Sometimes all it is is a Batman movie keeping them hinged.
Inb4 misinterpretation
@@Yexgehehe God a lot of women probably died after he saw that trash pile. Sad
Notice how Howard was trying to ask the most incriminating questions possible. Age, look, race, location, any distinctive marks like tattoos or scars. So hopefully cops could get something from it. Smarter then he looks (and sometimes acts)
Howard is on record for having a high iq
Yeah ikr, he did it so well the killer Doesn't feel threatened or anything like that.
It's just fascinating to me somehow about how People's mind work sometimes.
@@Kumorini So they know which race to look for?
@@RandomPerson-gy5lx Ohh I thought he meant the race of the women since I read this comment when he asked if he targets black women or something🤦🏼♂️
he's got a 150 IQ
This conversation was actually scary because he made it like such a casual conversation like everyone does this.if i was howard i would be absolutely freaking out
he probably was but he had to shut that off. this does not happen every day and i guess you gotta keep it cool & try to see where the conversation goes. Theres no danger at least...?
He's a genius. Howard
“Is this Ed?”
No this isn’t Ed
“You haven’t killed any prostitutes?”
No, I never said my name was Ed.
“Oh. Oh.” 🤣
Howard hoping he’d go “no, no, I’m Michael”
🤦🏾♂️
chatbot?
And you find that funny, how?
This actually gave me chills. Like he’s a legit psycho bro.
Howard: “Dude you’re a serial killer”
Clay: “Yeah”
Howard: “Yeah”
Rust in peace=perfect thrash album
"Yep, that's me. You're probably wondering how I got here."
rust in peace!!!
That shit killed me lmfao
This sound like something the coen could have written.
This is a good example of something a lot of investigators have done with serial killers being heard in action; Ask them a question then answer it for them with the wrong answer on purpose... Get their ego to correct you.
Yes I noticed that! Great technique but can't make it obvious that you keep mistaking some of the info
Good catch 👍👀
It's a proven tactic for business negotiations or sales. When something is keeping a deal from closing, you mention an issue or problem you know isn't what is holding the other person back. By inserting the wrong assumption ("I'm guessing the time turnaround is what's keeping you from buying," etc) they instinctively feel the need to correct you, and it draws out the real reason they havent said yet. If you sell a product or service, and cant figure out what makes someone pull the trigger, get it wrong on purpose. The same applies to arguments and negotiations for anything in life, if you want to know what someone is thinking. Be wrong on purpose, watch them clarify things.
@@dantesombra9463 I needed this,. sales techniques for discovery.
He also managed to get more info about that guy: white, no tattoos and must be pretty big.
i like how he clears up the fact that HE was 16
There's something about "Clay's" tone and delivery that makes this seem like an authentic serial killer confession.
Probably because while most serial killers try hard to seem like psychopath in their confessions, Clay sounds genuine and doesn't try to sound like a psycho.
@Seamus O'Gil we have no certainty russell was clay
@Seamus O'Gil not him
Deep down they want to admit. They feel they need to confess, which is probably why he would tell the women he was going to kill them. But, it's not the same. It's not real attention and who are they? They'll be gone anyways so, and to him, they're not important anyways.
It's not uncommon for someone like that to call into a radio show or whatever because they get their 15 mins. of fame. He'll do it again and if he hasn't really been caught, I'm sure he's bumped his numbers up since the call. He'll probably continue until something big causes him to stop, he's caught, gets too old to do it, or developes physical limitations.
These people are mental screwed. He doesn't know why he really does it because there's something wrong with the noodle. It's not anything in mainstream media or entertainments fault, either. Crazy people watch tv and read, too. It's not an influence, it's a drive they already developed.
The tone, the way he spoke, and what he said. Yeah, I bet dude was serious. He did give too much info about himself but, he is pretty sure he hasn't got caught, at least around that time. I mean, he's been doing it since he was 16. He didn't say how old he was. At least he was smart enough about that.
Somewhere between “so nervous that he’s about to cry” and “so confident and narcissistic he could be a CEO”
“So you haven’t killled any prostitutes?”
“No I never said my name was Ed” 😭
😂😂😂😂😂
Oh,…
one thing this video proved is that Howard isn't famous because of his listening skills
Like a line from a film
I know... that one killed me
my coffee went up my nose when i heard that
The way Howard and his co host were coming up with questions off the dome was impressive
..they're radio hosts that's their job
They got a ton of identifying information on him.
@@cdawson198600 very impressive
Yeah it's like journalism improv
@@exMuteKid more like detectives
27 years have passed and still no one knows the identity of "Clay" ... I think that's almost more disturbing than the call itself... 👀
It's believed to be Russell Ellwood.
What about them never having found the women too!
Its not Russell Ellwood. He was in prison when this person called.
He’s around still
If only you knew
such a smart way of gathering info, Howard is a legend for that
"clay" was giving him what he wanted to not what he was forced to. Most likely he was telling lies
he reminds me of patrick bateman from american psycho he makes prostitude do stuff and kill them too and by the end of the movie he also confessed but no one believed him and he never got caught you should watch that movie guys i didnt think it was possible someone like him could ezxist irl
@seb i Russell Ellwood
@@samalamaduma2557 Maybe that's the book he read. American Psycho
@@coldfizzy9980 i don’t think he’s that clever. Like at one point he says “ex-fiance” implying they never properly got married, I doubt he said that as some sort of red herring.
You can hear in his voice that he's calm and happy to be sharing this he's really wanted to tell people of his acts that nobody really noticed.
Narcissistic
But he was nervous too
He sounded so disappointed that his the murder went unnoticed. These women disappear and no one notices is so sad and that fact probably makes killers like him embolden to kill more.
You can simply tell he hates prostitutes but obviously likes spending a lot of time around them baiting them!!!
Because it’s not real
The thought of a murderer pulling out a hammer and saying "Bababooey" literally made me Laugh out loud.
See u in hell 🤘
I'm fucking laughing my ass off rn 😂
@@camz3830 lol
Now I know where it comes from
😂
This guy is probably still out there. The guy is the real deal, I can tell by how fast he answers the questions, this guy was not lying.
Sure.
Not everyone is slow
Probably not. There was a documentary I saw a while back that matched everything this caller said, even the police officer suspect and the ages of the victims. Guy had a red sports car and used that to show off and lure in his victims, kept picking them up from the same spot, and that's how he got caught.
@@haftnersand what was the name of the documentary and the guy that got caught?
@GorillaTortilla710 no answer? Maybe it's him
This guy is so nonchalant I swear.
"Yeah I've killed a few times"
"crazy"
"yeah."
nonchalant
i became very nonchalant. but that’s what y’all wanted right?
I mean what do you expect him to say? If it’s his lifestyle than him treating it so matter-of-factly is not surprising
@@ayethaphillionare4384 was waiting for this
@@ayethaphillionare4384 4 me not too give a fuck?? 👏👏👏
“If I killed myself I’d miss the next batman movie.”
priorities.
Shit had me weak af 😂 he said fuck them strippers I’m trynna watch the next Batman movie
That shit cant be real bro
@@ecwnikos7 This is reality sadly some people are in situations that killers look for sometimes unpredictable this guy seems to be a spree killer
He needs to see batman begins
😂😂😂😂
You can tell the shock in the caller's voice when he realizes he's talking to Stern and therefor live on air. Don't think this was fake, this guy was legit a murderer.
Who did he think he was talking too
I was literally questioning the legitness” of this….but yeah, real. Goes to show society needs to stop letting evil go unpunished
@@mrsteinbergenson7348 - i assume you need to talk to 2-3 people (producers, etc) before you talk Stern live on air.
@@warriora7245 its hard to chase a man who is running away from you
Since when has anything made for "Entertainment" ever been "real"? "Distract the slaves from the fact that they are even slaves."
Howard handled this perfectly, ngl. He kept asking questions for a very specific reason: Keep him on the line longer so hes occupied, and can be traced. It's an unreal level of mental strength to hear this without showing much of a reaction
he is jewish dude
People say he's calm, but you can hear the shakiness in his voice. Hes getting anxious and his heart rate is up. Most likely because he has never described his killings in such detail.
or hes full of shit.
I don't know, when I used to call a radio station for a request in my 20's (in the 80's) I got all kinds of nervous! LOL
@@Incarnate-1 FBI came by and got the tapes from this interview and confirmed he knew facts that weren't public
@@jashy66 everything he described in this clip is broad and fits many previous cases
More like he’s excited.
Dude, I just... really have to appreciate how Howard kept control of this. He fully interrogated this guy without ever making it feel that way. He kept total composure, immediately built rapport, made him comfy, and he answered every, single, question. I have a lot of feelings about Stern, but I can't deny, he really did a good job here.
Kept him on the line for awhile too
It's all a scripted show you imbecile.
He might as well just think the guy calling was praking him or smth. There likely are people who would make stuff like this up
*watches mindhunter once*
@@bluetheminx Yea, led to no arrest, what a hero.
"You've never killed any prostitutes?"
"No i said my name isn't Ed."
😂
the collective "oh" made me giggle LOL
😆
that killed me
I wonder if his name really was ed...
@@austinfowler85 im wondering if he ever got caught
Basically this is the day that Patrick Bateman realized he was due for another confession, so he called the Howard Stern show.
he sounds so chill, it makes it more scary
ok
They are still people 🙄
@@deadinside8548 doesn't change the fact that he's messed up in the head
He makes it sound like he's casually explaining a hobby or something
@@mcdonaldsicecreammachine8917 Ok but and? You say that simply because he doesn't match our societal built ethics and morals. But the truth is he is human just like you and me. Really sad how we treat these people and our best solution is to locked them up and make them slaves. Ah the hypocrisy. Oh well it is what it is.
He answers those questions awful quick and includes quite a few details. I'd say he is telling the truth
@Nate Cross He very well could've been
@Nate Cross what?
@Nate Cross have you heard of that one black guy that killed over 70 people (I think that’s the number) Samuel something I think. This was decades ago and he can still remember their faces, draw them, and can recount several details. Some people get off on this kind of stuff and will never forget like a normal person recollecting on an important event in the past.
i think the guy in the call is an actual killer
I'll say it's real because you can hear his nervousness in the back
Howard: Dude you’re a serial killer
Clay: Yeah
Howard: yeah
😂😂😂
It's like they're on an elevator together
@@meowcow21 😂😂
WOW
Yeah that was some weirdass conversation.
It was like, 'how do you handle when someone's being impolite'.
I''ll just cut their throats.
Easy does it. Then they are quiet after that.
💀💀💀💀
Im surprised with this social media someone doesn't recognize this guy's voice and alert authorities with his name because now it's in front of the world publicly to hear him.
Especially after 18 million watched this
This was before Facebook
@@juneack5848 so does a voice change before Facebook and then after facebook
1997
Maybe he's already dead... 1997 a lot of years.....
Howard got "Clay" to drop several things about him like he's white, no tattoos, approximate age and who he seeks out without him even realizing it. Very slick
Yeah, and look where it got the Feebs....? Exactly nowhere. Serial killers love targeting Hookers cos nobody gives a shit about them. If this guy had been murdering High School Girls, the Cops would have moved heaven and earth to find him.
He was obviously heavily in to Comics and the Comic book scene, I would have thought that was a great place to start. This was 1997 remember, before the internet really took off, so he had to be buying in person either in store or by post. They knew a rough area where he lived. They knew shit like his car had recently broken down and that he had kids etc...... Cops should have rolled this guy up easily......
Nah the killer knew some of the questions Howard was asking where traps. For all we know he could have tattoos & etc ...... Just saying. But Howard was smart to start asking in a low key way
Unfortunately, none of the info that the guy gives about himself would really help narrow down a suspect pool to any less than thousands of guys in the New Orleans area.
lol I noticed that as well and was very impressed
@@nickmaclachlan5178 yeah but still there were no specifics especialy cuzz he moved from state to state .His car broke down but how and what kinda car? and keeps it random .And the comic book refferences can also be a throw off. He doenst give any specific detail. not once
Sounds like a job interview
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@@nenejejss4086 u too m8
It could be 😉😏
I love that he was discretely getting information about him. He was white, no tattoos, locations, his alias... That showed some great control of the conversation on Howard's part.
it didn't result in any leads or an arrest.
The thing is the guy is clearly a psychopath and honestly most likely extremely intelligent as well, so he can probably lie about everything and be able to back it up with a good degree of believability
i think the guy called knowing that howard would ask those questions. he even mentioned how he wanted to give clues for his murders, this was clearly his way of doing that. he also could have lied with everything he said to through law enforcement off further
And he got him to keep talking because he didn’t come at him as a judge mental thing. He just interviewed him like he was a person. If Howard attacked him. Called him names he would of ended the conversation.
Simone out there also joked with him about the murders… if that person heard this perhaps they would have remembered that.
This was uploaded 2 years ago, with 18 million views now. There's a really good chance that Clay has watched this. Kinda creepy.
Math is hard
He's probably read your comment
theres a good chance clay is dead
@@AfghanApothecary look behind you 😂
It’s truly commendable just how much Howard is trying to build a profile discretely
Agreed. He did his damndest without losing the call.
@Miles Doyle Eat glass 🖤
And they still couldn't find him fucking useless shits
@@hinatashoyo2999 that's law enforcement for you
Pointless. It was so obvious that everyone who listened to it knew what he was doing. Even you all mentioned it was being a paranoid killer on the loose
The craziest part is that we walk around people like him everyday and we don’t even know it.
Or we do know it......
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@Unzus THERE SOME SUSSY BAKAS AROUND
FBI says at any given time there are 25-50 active serial killers in the USA alone. Probably countless more in countries that don't have the resources to track them. I am certain that there are serial killers who have left the US and other countries and go to countries in southeast Asia, South and Central America, Mexico, eastern Europe, Africa, etc. to kill freely or just vacation there specifically to kill. Think about how easy it is to get away with murder in Honduras, El Salvador, Guatemala, Colombia, or Mexico where they have huge gang problems and cartels and not enough police who aren't on a gang or cartel payroll to investigate crimes, especially a dead prostitute. Risk is that serial killers, unless they are hitmen or cartel affiliated locals, are usually not actually tough people, they usually prey on the weak where as gang killing hardens you as a person and its very matter of fact and part of every day business, so some soft white guy from the USA isn't going to have a good experience in prison with real, hardened criminals. El Salvador or Honduras that is a very bad situation. Unless the killer has ties to high level organized crime they probably aren't walking out of one of those prisons. Gangs like to show that they have some sort of and ethical code so if you kill women, children, abuse or rape women or children, especially as a white guy in someone else's country, you're probably going to be made example of.
I know it 😈
He was more emotional about knowing he was on the phone with Howard Stern than admitting to being a serial killer.
Typical textbook psychopath
dude was beating his meat or something that part was weird 😂😂
He only killed them for his 15 mins. Tragic
of course.. most serial killers dont have any time of feeling when it comes to kill people.. obviously.
Sounded like he was masturbating ..kinda weirded me out
I can't believe nobody recognised him after an interview. He willingly shared a lot of information and just bu the shear time he was just talking, there must be somebody that can go "Hey, that's Johny! I know this guy!"
It might not be legit though, there are a lot of fantasists out there, for a fantasist this call would have been gratifying. He sounds insane so I guess we will never know.
@@brettpilkington9539for real, this is so easily faked why are people just straight up believing it.
He even disclosed the area in new orleans, there's a chance the guy was just making things up, sharing fantasies and talking about them as if they happened in real life. This could be a case of American Psycho before the movie in 2000
So in other words, trolling@@GopuPaajiOye4117
@@brettpilkington9539 Even so, it's still odd that no one has ever heard this and recognized him, whether he's actually a killer... I would think someone would contact the police and say, 'The guy on the Howard Stern Show was ____."
"Is this Ed?" "No this isn't Ed" . "You haven't killed any prostitutes?" "No, i never said my name was Ed" ..
That made me giggle a little
It actually tells us a lot about his state of mind. He didn't even acknowledge or double take or even stutter at the accusation and instead was more focused on getting his name right
😂 Exactly. He was more offended at the fact he was called Ed.
That made me giggle alot of little
Maybe his name is Ed and he didn’t want to be caught
Right! I was thinking the same exact thing
This is literally like murray talking to the joker
muuuuuraaaay
Watch out Howard!😬
BROOOO
Yooooooooo bro this reference is so fucking good like wtf i'd never come up with this refernce holy its literally like joker and murray
Could it have been inspired?
“Clay” was LOVING the attention which is why he was so open to talking about what he did. You see how excited he was when he realized he was actually talking to Howard?
I know it's TV, but Criminal Minds is pretty accurate regarding Unsub psychology. Power and attention are what most want. It seems so weird because most people would think that all traces would be covered up, but many do the opposite. They leave clues in hopes people see their handiwork. It's really disturbing stuff.
@@firingallcylinders2949 Exactly they love the attention. This is why so many weirdos do the stuff because they want to be on the news.
Zodiac killer in San Francisco loved the attention with his many letters and cryptograms and then it just stopped. Do you think he died or moved on to other areas?
Yeah you could tell the tone in his voice changed from like blah when he thought he was still on with the producer to a bit more peppy.
@@rlew351 dude i thought you said you were another zodiac killer
If you watch interviews with some of the most prolific and notorious killers in history, they're all just like this guy. No drama, no antics, just flat, straight to the point, no hesitation. It's quite chilling. I'm pretty sure "Clay" was being straight up honest.
Howard: "dude you're a serial killer."
Clay : "Yeah."
Howard: "Yeah."
😂😂😂😂
Some family guy shit😂
me at home : Yeah.
@@Bjorn899 I was thinking the same exact thing after that part😂
😂🤣
This is seriously disturbing...he really sounds like he's telling the truth. He's either the real deal or a damn good actor.
even if it's fake, i'm sure there are plenty real ones out there
i mean, apparently real ones who have been caught have done as much revealing stuff to get attention and theatre
well i do check wht he was tellin..since this was recorded back on 97...i found an article about black police officer on 95 became a suspect for mutiple homicide in new orleans..well...seems legit..
Wow
@@user-nm4sb2rg5z can you link one here?
@@user-nm4sb2rg5z sounds like a sun dodger to me
Some dude who jokingly said "I know this was you" to his friend "not ED" is probably really nervous right about now.
That dude might be the only person capable of identifying the killer
More like nervous in 1997. This would be the best lead for the FBI to find this guy. Surprised he never came forward.
@@ooooswain im sure after the call he thought well now I gotta kill that guy
If he recognized his voice hell yeah.. But he's a man so he's probably safe.
@@TheRealKimberlyThomas if you're trying to insinuate men get away with crimes, they actually get much longer sentences than women for the same exact crime, it's statistically proven, so idk what you're on about
I'm impressed with Howard. Rubin too. They both asked questions where the answers give up info and are incriminating. Wow
It seems like they didn’t believe him at first but slowly realized it was very possible. This was interesting to say the least.
It was pretty believable, he seemed to not try to give over the top answers, and correct certain assumptions that would have served his ego if he just went along with it… but who knows.
to me... it felt like a brilliant Howard Stern gag. but who knows?
You start to notice they’re explicitly uncomfortable at 5:00
@@JKaiserable I agree. I feel like most people would’ve made it obvious if they were lying but this dude just seemed like he was telling the truth and wanted to get it off his chest. Like maybe he wanted to get caught.
lawrence shadow nah, this sounds like they just pulled this fish out of the sea of callers and they realized they had something to possibly deal with. There’s no laughter in almost any of this.
" You haven't killed any prostitutes? "
" No , I never said my name was Ed. " Not sure why this made me laugh, but it got me
@Miles Doyle ummm why?
@@braylens1822 there's always one haha
@@braylens1822 bc why not
@Miles Doyle ok
@@braylens1822 haha why not?
The scariest part is their unpredictability. All of us could be standing next to or, near a killer right now and wouldn't even know if he's/she's a killer.
Except if you don’t live in America then you’re safe
Some of us are looking in mirror at one. Never know what is going to happen and if you act accordingly, murder could be an option. Not an ideal one but could be depending on what goes down
LOL england had/has some of the worst......ever heard of the wests? Ian brady & Myra hindley? The Yorkshire ripper? Granted the U.S has had alot more but let's not forget....england kind of kicked that serial killer shit off with jack the ripper LOL, there are serial killers ALL OVER, they dont discriminate country's LOL...
Well back then maybe, serial killers were common but even so like maybe 1 out of 200,000 people was 1. Thats just a guess, so its not likely especially today with advance in technology serial killers dont really exist, serial killer would be lucky to reach 5 victims today.
i know one....
I'm amazed about the amount of questions they are constantly throwing to him
"You haven't killed any prostitutes?"
"No my name isn't Ed."
☠️
Reminds me of that Mike Tyson Quote: "They called me a 'rapist' and a 'recluse'. I'm not a recluse."
Chilling.
2 ppl asked a question at once, Howard & the girl so he answered that question then the next question after ..
😂😂😂
Lol
We need to find the guy who told clay “I know it was you” jokingly. That’s the biggest loose end from this call. If he heard this he’d know exactly who it was if it was his friend he was joking with
I had same idea lol
Yeah yeah but I know it was you my man
Maybe he murdered him as well, leaving no loose end.
@@ShahZaib-xu3ww clay seems like a pathetic person that preys on defenseless woman’s, I seriously doubt he would kill a man.
@@davidreyna202 well tbh as someone with menta heath knowledge it does seem like he’s struggling with his mental health bc this isn’t even really close to misogyny or anything similar to misogyny. It’s more feeling some pent up emotion one doesn’t understand and ends up impulsively taking a life and may continue with the action. It’s more of an impulsive act to be honest since he said he didn’t feel any satisfaction but just did it. And he mentioned that he could control himself after awhile. So yea
Howard is so good at staying unphased. Allowing the killer to feel comfortable and open to good conversation.
Howard Stern is one of the best interviewers there is
He's J-wish thats why
@@BoqPrecision not all of them have his gift
@King I wonder if they caught this dude ?
@King Yeah, probably.
This was awhile back. So
Maybe he's in jail for some-
thing else.
Good work by Howard getting a description on this weirdo
It’s crazy how Howard just keeps the conversation flowing and asking the questions so calmly. It’s like they’re talking about something so normal
Because they didnt believe it at first. It says that in he beginning...
@@bigcity420 yeah but he did a damn good job feeding that guys narcissism and curiosity. That’s really the only way to get a person of that nature to open up and be even somewhat truthful bc you’re playing their game, deceiving the deceiver. They always think ppl are like “ah man you murdered innocent ppl you’re so cool tell me about it!?” Like nah bruh they hate you and they want you to admit to shit to keep you away forever😂
@Nadiya Business Howard is good at getting people to open up.
What conversation? It literally sounded like an interrogation, which it basically was
I don’t think they believed it at first but later on he was trying to get the guy to identify himself like asking if he was a big guy his age an race where he kill the women etc
He just likes being a villain. The mention for calling him Clay, the batman movie, the methods of using the hammer by a book, the "running game", even "clues to baffle people" and finally the whole fact that he was the one who called the program to talk about what he did. He wanted to slowly be recognized and feel like a villain. As this wasn't being achieved naturally, he felt the need to make himself known and so he called. He was just a horrible, needy killer.
He does it for power,the dropping of little hints makes him feel more empowered, look at thread and how many people have watched this. In nearly all superhero movies or comics there is nearly always a twist, something that makes you go wow....that is what this person was hoping to be.
He took the joker route instead of the comic book route
You’re a pxssy
@@redrum8302 …
@@babatunde5060 …..
“So you want to kill them?”
“Sure.”
This man is very legit…trust that
Yeah, he's one for sure.
Also the talk on the way he kills.
How he mentions the hammer.
It only takes one hit.
He gives details in a way , he must be doing this action for real.
@@Ve-suvius it doesn't always take one hit !
@@justinbaas843
That's what he said.
I'm quoting him.
You have to tell him that he isn't right when he's murdering someone with the hammer.
You can tell how he answers ......he's the real deal......I live 30 min from NOLA
I know exactly what murders he is talking about. What gave it away is when he said they thought it was a cop that had been involved with the victims. A lot of ppl still think that. Apparently some of the girls were allegedly snitches and worked with some cop. Ppl suspected it was a few cops actually.
This is friggin bizarre. If he's telling the truth then ppl are wrongly being suspected.
6:55 wow the way he perks up when addressing Robin, given his history with women sends chills up my spine
“You haven’t killed any prostitutes?”
“No, I never said my name was Ed”
That shouldn’t be so funny🤣
I laughed too 🤣🤣🤣
@@IM_A_PET_GOAT_TOO because it’s funny 😂
Because it was faked to try and boost Stern's ratings... I can't believe that people bought this BS...
Room got really quiet after that little gem 😂😂😂
Hmm...🤣
I like how Howard acts like he isn't really believing this, yet he still asks questions about information that the police can use, while not being super obvious about it. The guy could have lied about some answers however.
But I think this guy was for real.
He avoided alot of the questions Howard asked. Like when Howard asked if he's white, he make a joke instead. Or when Robin asked where Are you. Or when he asked if he's a big guy. All three of these can help identify a suspect. He's legit
@@gonkdroid8749 The part where he gets upset because the prostitutes blow off the question about danger is telling. There is a lot of odd but genuine emotion in his voice. Somebody faking this wouldn't have that in their voice or think to put it in.
I know Howard has taken a lot of flack for his show over the years, justified or not, that still doesn't take away from the fact that he knows how to do an interview. Besides being a shock jock and all that he has made a very successful living on keeping people talking on the air.
@@chrispalahicky8169 He certainly is good at what he does. I don't like the shock stuff really, but he is good at asking questions and talking to people.
Could of been a police officer at the time..i think for sure military or police
"If I killed myself I missed the next batman movie"
SOCIETY BOTTOM TEXT
Feel bad he had to wait for that garbage
VENEZUELA
@@universesbiggestdouchebag8350 ?
What does society bottom text mean?
@@Dreamskater100 lmao
Hello 👋
I would love to make a reaction to your video
Would that be possible? 😊
This is actually so disturbing, some people are just so messed up and there’s no coming back.
@@ttkbaby5339
Are you really comparing murder to prostitution?
Hookers are not missed by anyone really.
@@danielflanard8274 prostitution can be murder.. I mean not necessarily considered.. but if someone gets a disease or has to have an abortion.. murder is definitely wrong but why would you be a hooker when you know the consequences just be prepared..
@@ttkbaby5339
To revisit something you said "for your own pleasure", sex workers don't enjoy the sex, it's not for personal gratification. I assure you that their clientele are not individuals anyone would want to sleep with, without the financial aspect. It's an incredibly dangerous profession because of predators like that nutbag; society and law enforcement as a whole don't care if they dissappear off the face of the Earth which is why he was able to kill so many women without getting caught. Sex workers are human beings. To be honest, it's disturbing that you picked here and now to devalue their existence. Prostitution is not murder nor is it comparable to murder. You can make the argument that STDs and Abortion are murder, but neither of them are prostitution, so that argument is irrelevant.
@@ttkbaby5339 bruv.. tf
Some people: Video games cause violence!
“Clay” being asked how he found out why he killed people with a hammer: I actually got it from a book.
Comic book lol
Comic books cause violence!
Lol
I don’t actually reread the same book over and over, day after day, minute after minute. Further more I can’t see it and I am not the one doing it. I would be horrified I was reading it, not celebrating that I am doing it…yes, video gamers ARE violent and allow people to experience being violent….
Nice profile picture
I like how Howard is slyly asking the guy to basically describe himself. "You a white guy?", "got a wife and kids?", "you got tattoos?"
yeah, but the pause after he told him, there he picks up the girls..or that he did not ask that or why his car broke down and how he fixed it. or if he did tell somebody about it before, maybe with hints..
anybody who knows how big howards ego is could see this coming miles away, howard wanting to get credit for catching a serial killer...im sure the killer was well aware of howard fishing for physical descriptors
At least Howard tried to get physical descriptors. Does anyone know when this call took place? This is chilling content. Edit: took place in ‘97
If the caller was smart enough he probably lied about a few details that could identify him, like for example the timings, like when his car broke down, when his last murder was etc. Maybe even lying about the "black police officer" thing, that could have been about different murders and he was just trying to confuse investigators that could be investigating that case or his.
@@BaldMancTwat well, he is ‘smart’ enough. I can’t stand to give serial killers the credit of being smart, so I will call ‘Clay’ intellectual in his pursuit of committing serial murder.
Hope they catch this monster!
11:39 with that conclusion. It means Clay still running free then. Wow
His tone is so eerie. I feel like hes telling the truth. Also his consistency w the story is crazy
I wouldn't doubt it. With his tone of voice. He sounds serious about his story. Also doesn't change what he first mentioned.
@@kennethwood88 right?!? The accuracy of his story from beginning to end was just on point. I feel like Howard tried to mess up on purpose. But he corrected them every time.
@@yohanesparuntu4980 yes he seemed matter of fact about it,
a part that made me hmm was when he wasn't giving any example to what he says to them but said "well I could say" instead "well I've said" & given an example of one the the 12 times.
or he's at very good at improv, or fantasies a little to much and has his story/comics written & memorised but it definitely gives of the i think he could be telling the truth vibes when many calls/videos like this i probably wouldn't believe.
@@ScottishAnnie yeah, I picked up on that. Richard Kuklinsky did that a little bit too though, if I remember correctly. And of course we know he did it…
What I mean is he also spoke vaguely like “I could’ve” or “I might’ve “ while recalling his crimes.
It’s weird hearing him talk so casually and joke around about it. The batman joke made me laugh cause it caught me off guard. It’s crazy to think about what goes on in their heads where they themselves self-admittedly don’t know.
Yeah, some people are very numb to what they do and you never know until they get caught what is going on in their head. He said he had a normal childhood, but was it " his version" of what normal is or just actually normal like everyone else. ? I like how they were able to get away with asking questions with him. I do hope if it's true he gets caught. 😟
@@Salena905 yeah exactly. Just think about Ted Bundy, or Jeffrey Dahmer. They went to hang out with people
After they did things like this, and the people said they acted completely normal and had no idea what they were capable of doing whenever they wanted to do it, and they were smart enough to not get caught for a long time
bro fr that batman joke had me rolling😂 i hate how hard i laughed when he said that
Most of the time they're not even that crazy. Essentially just normal people who kill for certain reasons. Sometimes just because they can.
The bababooey joke actually got me it was kinda upsetting how funny it was
A serial killer who planned how he’d do it starting with his first, left clues, still has never been identified and got away with it, and kept calm while discussing it on a radio talk show… this is the type of murderers that are truly dangerous. Every day people that you never suspect, charisma, humor, and just completely mask their intentions and emotions. Be careful people. You never know.
I don't know to me he was using 'uh' way too much. There is a chance the guy was completely lying about everything.
@@stromitty i can get nervous and use words like uh and like alot. maybe he was nervous to be on a talk show talking about murder
Just one thing. He talks about the first murder leaving clues. Howard asks what kind of clues. He says thumb paint with their thumb. He saw it in a comic book a couple years ago. So we are to assume he's killed 12 people within a couple years as he was talking about his first murder. We are to also assume since his first murder was at age 16, that would make him 19 at the time of this call. If a couple years is 3. All assumptions ofcourse.
Stromitty no lmao I say uh all the time while I’m talking it’s just a part of adhd and or slow processing speed due to your mind being somewheres else while listening
@@stromitty Research has been done on psychopaths use of language, they're known to use "uh", "um" etc more ruclips.net/video/6vF5PtdiiCo/видео.html
Howard, can't even let a Serial Killer finish his sentence.
Hahaha
I like that Howard was weaving Identifying factors throughout this like his build, race, tattoos, etc.
And he was having none of that. Didn't say where he was dumping the bodies, or where he committed the murders and didn't admit to having any tattoos. What he said is that he was an intimidating-looking white man, not even his age became known.
@@bernatkun8069 Well he gave up his location, the general spot where hookers hang out in this town, he said he was white, has no tattoos, and that someone he knew joked about it being him. So if that someone were to hear this audio and recall them joking about that, they could point out the guy easily.
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@@OwningPro and of course he’s probably completely lying
edit: his voice does sound white though
@@OwningPro Where did he say he was white? I see Howard asking directly, but 'Clay' evades giving a direct answer, and says "uh yeah Howard that's pretty funny ...(5:07)".
you can really feel the relief he feels getting it off his chest. He doesn’t try to be like the zodiac killer or ted bundy. He just does it as a sorta hobby and just never told anyone. He told his story and still never been caught. Monsters definitely exist.
Very eerie for sure
That's exactly what ted bundy said. Monsters exist.
chads*
@Emilio Estevezovic I stand corrected.
@Emilio Estevezovic how do you know if it's really him
I love how you just made the video straight to the point, and no talking.
@D.M.c I hate moth.
if only more could do the same... lol
A-m-e-n. Drives me crazy.
this
Yeah
@2:20
Howard: Dude you are a serial killer!
Clay: Yeah.
Howard: Yeah. Wow.
😅
The chilling part is that he sounds like any other person. Howard is speaking to him as if he’s just his friend. That’s terrifying that there’s people out there like that and you might not even know it.
Bro has kids too. Imagine not knowing your dad kills hookers for what seems to be no reason whatsoever.
Have you listened to Richard Kuklinski's confession about beeing a hitman?
Obviously too many people have wrong conceptions about these topics.
You should read up in ted bundy. Also, ed kemper turned himself in because the cops wasn’t figuring out it was him. He was friends with a lot of the cops.
That's literally 99% of killers and murderers. This is real life, not a corny tv show.
That’s how it is in real life. This shit is terrifying.
"No this is not Ed"
"So you haven't killed any prostitutes?"
"No I just never said my name was Ed"
"Oh..."
Wow
It's Ed bassmaster
It's fake
@@kfc1849 ok? That doesn't make it less funny.
DARK👀😅
"You haven't killed any prostitutes *chuckles*"
"No, I never said my name was Ed"
"Oh"
"Oh"
Creepy asf
🤣🤣🤣🤣
That exchange showed right off the bat that "Clay" is in control of this conversation.
😂😂
666 likes? I'm afraid to click