Twins! 2 HONDA EU2000i GENERATOR. Won't START or RUN after STORAGE. WHY WONT IT START? HOW TO FIX
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2019
- A tutorial by Jeff's Little Engine Service on How To Repair 2 different Honda EU2000i GENERATOR that won't start or run after STORAGE. Or runs with the CHOKE ON only. HOW TO FIX it the EASY WAY. Repair it with the CARBURETOR still on the machine! Fails to start after sitting only a few months. This GENERATOR was in very good condition so an obstructed FUEL SYSTEM is most likely to blame (Ethanol) fuel problem. Remove float bowl , Clean the carburetor and fix the problem. An Experienced mechanic zeros in on the problem and fixes it easily. Dirty and or plugged CARBURETOR main jet plugged. Clean Float bowl. Change spark plug and oil. DOES Vinegar work to clean the rusty carb?
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choke is for cold starts only
Thanks so much , I cleaned that fuel bell like you said and now my generator starts in 1 pull!!
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As to the video: Excellent! Very easy to follow.
Thank you!
This worked perfectly. I did exactly this. Gas had been in generator more than a year. Did have the residual fuel dried up in fuel cup and carb. Took the carb cleaner and toothbrush. Worked great. Put all back together and added fresh gasoline. Took around 15 pulls then started up. Ran generator around 1 hour. Thank you for showing this. Thank you Jeff.
Glad it helped
No Stabil in the fuel? Always use Stabil, or similar in the fuel if you won’t be running it regularly.
@@Fluterra fuel stabilizers hurt the engine more and might even cause more rust.
Great video, and a big thanks for the close in camera shots. Most people won't go to the trouble of doing those close in shots, but it makes all the difference when you do. Good job
Thanks friend!👍
Thanks for this excellent tutorial. In my case the main jet had become blocked and even the throttle butterfly valve had become stuck with gunk on top of all the rubbish in the float bowl and the fuel tank needed a big clean out too!! Had to strip the whole carby clean, etc. Put back together and purring like a cat!! Mike, Australia.
gasoline in usa 10x cheaper then germany,and you take care of that last drops gasoline.
IMPRESSIVE & RESPECTFULL GUY!
Thank you sir. I don't know what the labor rate is at the Honda lawnmower shop, but you saved me alot of money.
Hard to start my EU2000 after sitting a while - thought I had ignition problems, but cleaned the carb anyway and added fresh fuel - only use Premium w/o ethanol. Anyway, no help it seemed. but figured there might be oldre fuel in the line so reassembled and drained bowl 5 times. Looks like that worked! Note: pulled handle slowly 4-5 times then more quickly to0 try and start, After five times of draining bowl, priming bowl (3-4 slow strokes before a start attempt) it worked on time number 5. This video helped me get through all that.THANK YOU!
Thanks for watching!
Vinegar that's a new one for me thanks for the tip.
Yes! Vinegar is acetic acid. Nope! Carb cleaner is better r an ultrasonic cleaner
On any generator, I recommend draining all the fuel and spraying wD-40 in the carb and remove the fuel line and spray WD into the carb. I try and run or drain any fuel left in the bowl. The WD-40 prevents the float from sticking and doesnt go sticky with age. I used to summarize all my snowmobiles that way every year and All I had to do was add fresh fuel and they started and ran perfect every season.
very good advice
Thanks for the instruction. Worked great. Started on the 4th pull after cleaning.
That looked like a shortcut carb clean as neither the float valve or main and pilot jets were removed for cleaning. You were lucky. For the first start after lack of use for awhile, I pressurise the fuel tank with a small hand air pump. It really improves starting.
yep if the carb isn't too dirty you often do not need to remove and completely dissassemble and clean it.
Thanks for the instructable. I need to do this to two generators that I have. This is a great help for a non-mechanic like me.
You do good work and explain your procedures well. Many thanks from Ohio. Ethanol is the enemy of small engines. I avoid it "like the plague."
Thanks friend
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When you took the float bowl off there was a hose attached. That's actually the drain for the tank. It drains out the bottom of the unit. Easily seen at 6:58
A couple hoses and you can take the carb to the bench to clean it correctly. The main jet has 7 little holes on the side if it you have to make sure are clean when there is corrosion in the bowl not to mention the main jet hole which is usually clogged. Unscrew the main jet CCW and remove it to clean properly. Check all the holes for daylight. Remove the emulsion tube under it by tapping the carb on the table or blowing compressed air through the little hole by the gasket. It will pop out and clean it too with carb cleaner. Reassemble and the main jet bottoms out. No backing so many turns. Use regular gas no ethanol.
I just bought the new honda 1100I companion and im elated. The tech guy at northerntool said before you store it for next use run gas all the way out then unscrew the screw connected to little bell where carb is and drain gas completely out then you should be good to go? if u do this each time will it prevent build up and break down seems easy enough?
Don't worry about tightening those two 8mm nuts. Metal sleeves in the bolt holes protect the plastic from crushing. Within reason, of course.
thanks you just save me a lot of time and helped ms get my gen back running in this crazy houston weather
Glad I could help. Stay safe down there
I just got one at a pawn shop in hermit ca 350. Now I know how to service it
Great video . Fixed both of mine in total of 20-30 min . Thanks again !!!
Nice work!
I prefer to pull the carb and remove the jets and make sure they are clean.
that is probably the best way...I was taking shortcuts in this video!
I don't store mine with fuel in the carb! Store them in cooler temps. Seafoam is my friend
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I have one of these, they are practically indestructible.
Great video!
Thanks for watching!
Great, my main jet was clogged, put back together and runs like a champ, I used a small torch tip cleaner.
Thank you for this video. I learned much.
The last one might need a little more attention to the carb because in Eco mode its surging .
Very informative and helpful.
Thanks for the video. What about removing the main jet and emulsion tube, don't those need to be pulled and ensure all the orifices are open as well? That would resolve the issue with surging. Appreciate you making this video and I did take away some knowledge from it...so thanks !!
Great point! more thorough is usually better
Great tutorial, so you are never too old to learn, thank you so much re white vinegar, Vern Australia.
Thanks for watching mate
I used to soak in cleaners to clean out those carbs parts or anything that won't be damaged, but a cheap box of baking soda and a cheap H. Freight blaster takes about 10 seconds.
This shows how important it is to keep your fuel system SPOTLESSLY CLEAN, or you Can, & Will have problems.....Also run your unit for about 20 mins every month...I like storing my Honda EU2000 with a quart of engineered Fuel without Ethanol,....You can get it at Lowes .....The gray can has zero oil, & is the best for long term 4 stroke storage.....Keep your Genny CLEAN !!!!
Store WITHOUT ANY FUEL!
Unit has a built in drain if you use it
The manual has storage recommendations and time periods as well
That cup he used was a 1985 flashback. LOL
indeed! haha!
Thankyou for your your time. Much appreciated.
Good job. I highly recommend those magnetic drain plugs.
Have to revisit that 2nd one....didn't seem quite right...carb was running lean - hunting in eco mode, and didn't run rough with the choke on after start up, blocked idle jet etc👍🇦🇺
You are correct
1.Syphon fuel from tank after running for a few minutes
2.After this run again until it dies.
3.Drain remaining fuel from carb bowl
4.Choke and pull cord a half a dozen times to clear any remaining drops from carb.
5. Tighten drain screw back and store unit.
I do this every 6 months and never have a problem with my eu2000.
great tip!
I'm convinced that draining the fuel completely from the carb only helps a little bit. Obviously, a carb should be drained before long storage, but small residues of gas actually evaporate more quickly than in a full float bowl. Pilot jets in generator carbs clog frequently and technically these never have gas sitting in them after every shut off drained or not other than the residue left each run. Draining the carb is no guarantee that you won't have to pull and clean the jets eventually. "Fuel system cleaners" seem to do nothing on those small deposits, too even ran close to full strength which is annoying.
hondas are amazing just the design of those are so great
I added magnetic dipsticks to my two EU2300’s. Great upgrade along with an hour meter.
Good tip!
Thanks, very useful!
Well done.. Thanks, that's just what I was looking for.
Glad I could help
I have the same Kobalt 1/4" drive ratchet....I Love it...Very smooth !!!
It sure is!
Excellent tutorial. Thank you very much.
You are welcome!
I just bought the new Honda 1100I companion and I'm elated. The tech guy at northerntool said before you store it for next use run gas all the way out then unscrew the screw connected to little bell where carb is and drain gas completely out because then you should be good to go? if u do this each time will it prevent build up and break down in carburetor seems easy enough?
Thanks so much for this video! I have two Honda EU2000i generators, and both were having issues. One wouldn't stay running for more than about 10 seconds, and the other would only keep running with full choke. These units have less than 60 hours on them, but they are about 5 years old. They are like new. I watched the video, learned how to take them apart and clean them up, and learned the importance of non-ethanol fuel. I picked up some premium non-ethanol fuel (TWO stations within a few miles of me have it!), drained the tanks, added some Seafoam, and they both fired right up and, more importantly, stayed running for the hour I ran them. One of them still has a surge on the Eco mode, but it didn't die on me. I am wondering if that won't go away as I run them again today with the Seafoam cleaning the fuel system more?? If anyone has any advice on getting the surge, I would love to have it. Thanks again!
it is the slow speed jet passage that is plugged
Your Video was really helpful Thank you.
Thanks
Yes you'll see a plastic black screw on the carburetor unscrew and pop out low jet use a thin wire to unclug
Great job! They also need the plastic jet cleaned out. That’s why they don’t idle smoothly on eco mode
Great tip!
thanks for the video
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I always drain the remains of the fuel from the carb on my honda eu 10i. Know that 2000i has a timing belt that has to be replaced after about 10 years. Its not an easy job to to. I think eu 10i is better because it has a pushrod engine, but it does require more frequent valve adjustment compared to eu 2000i's engine.
So no tank top off and fuel stabilizer? Lookin got that repeat business...
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wow I learned so much, thank you !
Glad it was helpful!
There you have the twin generators but how ready are they?
I place mine at ready-to-run location and fill gas up to the top. This will minimize air space that will oxidize and turn the fuel bad. I run the generators for 15 minutes on the first day of the month. Then I release the left over fuel in the carburetors, refill the fuel up top and put them back in hibernate. This has been going on for at least a year and I have no issues of starting them every time I want.
Just my way of having them ready.
Great video content.
Much appreciated Thanks for watching
Saved this one and subscribed.
Thanks Lance
Nice tip
Awesome!
Great video
Thanks
Thanks friend!
Mine would only run with full choke after sitting for 10 months. Turns out the upper filter was toast...just fell apart. New set of air filters and fresh gas...presto.
All right with your help I’m going to try and fix mine, ( actually new to me). Any advantage in replacing float bowl and or gasket? I’’v ordered a manual which should be here next week. Wrenches ready to go!
new gaskets are never a bad idea!
Your technique of starting them by pulling the cord nearly vertical is how the case gets gouged from the pull cord. I always hold the handle with my left hand, stand off to the side and pull the cord out to the side with my right hand, so I don't gouge the case.
Who freaking cares?
Very informative. I like the comments!
Thanks for watching!
Good Job!
Thanks!
hey, nice vid. what air compressor are you using?
a 25 year old beater a friend gave me
I sure appreciate this video. Got my Honda generator to run finally but only runs for a few second on choke on and then dies.
Any suggestions?
Thanks! 👍
The ‘choke’ closes off the air intake, only allowing gas to enter the carb. Thus choking it…no air.
Choking of any gasoline/combustion engine is only intended to be gas only for a couple of seconds. Anything more than that will load up the carburetor and engine with only gas. Known as ‘flooding’ it.
Choke/choking is generally only necessary in a cold engine. Once an engine has run for 10-15 minutes (or more) it usually does not require being choked. In fact, you’re more than likely to have problems restarting it because now you have, flooded it.
So, to answer your question: only choke for a couple seconds or it will die from no air…like people if choked for any length of time!
Hope this has helped.
FYI-This isn’t a good video on servicing small portable generators. If you get lucky it might work but for only a little more time an effort you can clean the jets, properly. Then you know you’ve done an adequate cleaning of the fuel system.
Blowing carb cleaner and air upward from the intake orifice has about as good a chance of clearing the jet as does flossing your teeth with a rope!
Use Sta-Bil in your gas cans and periodically add a little Seafoam to the gas tank of the generator and run it a few minutes during lay up period.
good tips
great video!! i never can figure ou the gas cap vent. ...confusing
What my garden digger did after a rest. Checked and my intake valve was not sealing. Now will have to shorten it. SHOOT!!! Jeff seriously overtightens the carb bolts. He needs a torque wrench set to inch/lbs. 60
Great video jeff are those polish chickens?
Silkie chickens and I love 'em! Thanks for watching
Need to check mine .👍
Good vid thanks
Glad you enjoyed it
I'm a landscaper and I keep non- ethanol fuel at least 4-5 gallons 365 24-7 use in all my 2 stroke equipment and generators I run my generators at least 1 a month.
good tip
both look new from outside
good job
Thanks for watching
hello, thankyou for the video. My honda 2000 eu, will start and run for a while. then it will stutter and stall. If I get to it quickly, I have found that by blowing into the fuel lid hole, it will run fine again. Some times thats all it takes for the rest of the of the duration. Im guessing it is getting some air in the line somehow, but once I blow into the filler hole a few times then its good again, do you have any suggestions?
My guess would be contaminents in fuel tank and carburetor, probably moisture.
I usually have to pull the carb, take out and clean the main jet and emulsion tube .. also clean the pilot jet ... (hint: use non-ethanol gasoline)
Thomas Chrombly i bet this dude charged full price for a half ass job
Running non ethanol gas is seldom an option. Use Seafoam and stabil run the carb dry before storing store in climate control.
Yep one of mine won't start either I need it for my home made camper
Many parts of the country have ethanol-free gas. You don't need much for these little generators and it would solve these carb problems. Carbs HATE ethanol gas.
Jeff, have you ever worked on a Westinghouse igen2500? I’m having same problem.
Yes and I will never work on one again, they are crap.
Never forget always test run your generators with a load on them not just running the engines you must put a load on them all the difference in the world just because they run doesn’t mean they’re going to run with a load on them. And I’ve converted mine to run on propane and natural gas as well as gasoline which sucks used hutch mountain conversion kits probably the same company that made those magnetic dipsticks you discovered
very good tip.
It's best to replace a corroded float bowl when it gets too bad as it will continue to rot even after cleaning. You will have constant issues with a plugged main jet due to corrosion every year. I find it best just to replace them. The coating protecting the base metal is gone.
good tip
I have a lawn flite ride on mover and it go in 2nd 3rd 4th 5th and 6th but won’t go in 1st or park and need it in park to start the mover so can you help me
Lawn FLITE ride on lawnmower
The owner cared enough about the generators to add a nice high-end dipstick with magnet (I've bought them on ebay) but didn't care enough to drain the fuel prior to storage, or use ETHANOL FREE fuel. NO GOOD. LOL
I live in Florida the last hurricane you could not find carburetor cleaner. It seems like more than a few people don't care. I keep my EU2200i carburetor dry.
@JusticeAA Will do thanks.
Draining fuel is not an option for some people!
I am keeping close tabs on my gas tank gas. I now date when I put gas in and run it low so if it need changing its only a gallon or so.
The second generator was surging. You still have some work to do on the carb.
Good ear you were right
Why would you not remove the carb from the first one? There was plenty that I don't think you could guarantee to be clean unless you did. Having raced 2 stroke (2 cycle) engines for years, I have TWO ultrasonic cleaning tanks. Getting the carb properly clean throughout is the KEY to making your engine reliable! Even without the ultrasound, very fine single strands of copper wire (single strands of a multi strand cable) can be used to poke-through all the micro tubes in the carb. You have a compressor so you can easily blow the cr*p out of the carb even without 'poking' the copper wire. I am surprised!
I just take carb off clean all with carb cleaner and put a small wire in every hole u can see then air it out do this twice put back together and you will b happy you clean it right don't take long do it right the 1st time!!!!!
Did they produce power??? What was voltage? What was the hertz? Was the inverter working properly? If your intent was to make the engine run, good job. If you were working on my generator I would expect a thorough tuneup and a check to make sure that the generator did what it was designed for: to generate electricity at the proper rated voltage, the proper rated hertz, and the rated watt output.
I was just fixing the engine no start problem. No other issues were noted.
Wonder what he paid for both of those generators? They are like $1000 new.
If you can find them these days
The second one is running a bit lean .. clean the emulsion tube in the carb …
He didn’t clean out the plastic, slow jet…it’s gummed up causing a lean run
Why don't you do your work and cleanups over a tub or at least a piece of cardboard to help absorb everything you spray or spill from the engines you work on. I'm sure your driveway and your wife will thank you..
There was plenty of room for some quality job and there was a decent amount of pigs work but at least one seems to work fineand the other one not as smooth. But what the heck!!! That's the attitude many opt to have.
I ended up cleaning the slow speed jet on the one that needed it
Two good fixes. Well done sir. Not sure about the socks and sliders though 😁
lol!
Honda should have put in carburetor drain like Yamaha did on most recent model.
They do. The clear hose he put on the one carb is a drain tube for the carb. Has a small screw on underside of carb bowl. You turn it 1/2 turn and it drains the bowl. I agree with a few people above that said to run some Tru-Fuel or similar in Generator for storage. It won't age like pump gas.
Dude when you empty the oil you should make sure the gas cap is tight and turned off you were dumping gasoline out your carb. Measure your oil in a dedicated measuring cup and only fill it too twelve ounces. Get a cheap turkey baster and fill the remaining oil slowly.
good tips thanks!
Always use fuel stabilizer!
That’s what she said
Run non-oxy gas with Star Tron or Sea Foam. That should help with the crap in the carb.
good tip
When I removed the plug to get to the sparked plug, some derbies fell into there. Is that something I need to be worried about? Thank you
not good. But it will probably be ok. as long as it was not something hard like wood or metal. ...maybe blow some air in there or try to pull the rope fast a few times the air pressure may blow it out