NEW HONDA BLUETOOTH Generator EU2200i Exposed! CO Minder Review / 2021 Model
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2020
- BRAND NEW 2021 Honda EU2200i inverter generator with Bluetooth, App Control and CO Detection in their redesigned best seller. See the full review and details about Hondas latest offering. I reviewed this generator and the CO Minder system to see how useful it is and how reliable it will be over time and can it be BYPASSED? Home Backup Power Generator at it's best!
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Model: EU2200iTAG
Honda EU2200
Engine Honda: GXR120
Displacement: 121cc
AC Output: 120V 2200W max. (18.3A), 1800W rated (15A)
Receptacles: 20A 125V Duplex
Fuel Tank: .95 gal
Run Time per Tankful: 3.2hr @ rated load 8.1 hrs @ 1/4 load
Dimensions (L x W x H)20.0" x 11.4" x 16.7"
Noise Level57 dB(A) @ rated load 48 dB(A) @ 1/4 load
Dry Weight: 47.4 lb.
Residential Warranty: 3 Years
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LOL. I am watching these videos too at 12am. However, I need one and don’t know the first thing about them.
You never know. You might need one someday, you’ll be educated! Happy day!
Just completed the break-in period and so far the unit is operating perfectly ruclips.net/user/postUgkxOTeIs0vv4_9B5hsmnLsk9r930uDQLu_Y . I was amazed by just how quiet this little guy is. I kept having to walk down the driveway to the generator to make sure it was still running. In fact, the most annoying noise coming from the set-up is a high-pitched chirping coming from the pressure regulator on the propane line. I suppose it's possible my other propane-powered generator's pressure regulator is making the same noise, but the generator itself is so loud I've never noticed it. Build quality so far is excellent. My only nit is the service panel is a little tricky to remove. I feel like I might break off one of the plastic tabs when bending it back. I probably just need to work out the technique, so will not hold it against Champion.Next week I intend to fully load the unit to charge a large battery pack and will update this review if there's any problem (3000W continuous load vs a rated 3100W capacity while using propane). Absent any trouble there, I'm 100% pleased with this purchase.
We have two of the older models at my work. One is 6 years old and the other is 8 or so. Never changed the oil, filter, or spark plugs. Ever. They start one pull in warm weather every time and 2-3 pulls in winter conditions. Running in parallel is awesome but best part is how quite they are. You can have normal conversations standing right over them. Greatest small generator you will ever buy, no question.
Why not change the oil?
They don’t even have an oil filter, so you better start changing the oil
It’s like someone going to McDonald’s every day for lunch, yet their still alive
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Excellent video - Thank you for doing it - Just brought one of these home and tried it out on a 1500 watt ceramic heater - The app indicated 1450 watts very smoothly supplied with room for some electronics in an emergency - Started on 3rd pull for fist ever start, Bluetooth app loaded and connected perfectly - Caution - My unit had a good bit of oil left from the manufacturer's test, at least 5
ounces, and had to let a bit out to get the level right before starting - Also - It's easy to over fill the gas - High compliments to Honda on this little gem - Glad I bought it and my wife feels a bit more secure for an emergency scenario
I have 2 older eu200i models for 4 years. I use them every summer to run small air conditioners mounted in box trucks to ship wine in the hot south. The generators are put in steel toolboxes mounted under the side of the trucks. Zero trouble in four years. They still start with one or two pulls and if there is ever any trouble they can be serviced at any Honda Outdoors dealer. Thanks for a great review.
What’s the setup like in the enclosure for the generator on the side of the truck? Sound proofing? What is the ventilation like? Thanks
vents toward the rear of the truck to keep out road water with a small hinged door for the power connection. also the door is loose fitting with a hinged bottom and a hasp for a padlock at the top. No insulation because the Honda E 3000i is already quiet.@@OKFrax-ys2op
I have the EU2200i from three years ago. What a unit!! Quiet and dependable. Always starts on the first or second pull and it runs for hours without a refill. I really like some of the improvements to it on this new version. The flap that covers the outlets and the protection over the reset button. I guess the Bluetooth is an advantage, but not a necessity. Likewise with the carbon monoxide detector. I would be more acute to using it if I were in a confined space where there is no air flow, but if this is being used for camping or a travel trailer, then in all likelihood it would be outside.
I would love to get the companion to increase the power. Thanks for the review! Very helpful. Cheers!
Does the app tell you lifetime hours?
Absolutely fantastic review! This is one of the most complete reviews of the 2021/2022 EU2200I which I have seen. The video even addressed the concerns which I had about the CO sensor. While the video covered the parallel cable, the video did not cover the EU2200IC (companion) variant shown within the video which features a 30A socket. It's also worth noting that a Neutral-Ground Bonding Plug must be used when this generator is used with a surge protector ... such as is commonly required by RV manufacturers. Again, this is a fantastic review and one which I have bookmarked for future reference. Thanks for posting.
We have had the old model for like forever, I think since it came out, maybe 20 years? and it has been just perfect!! Not that we use it a lot, but here it is responding always in times of need. 100% recommended.
I have never seen a better review for any product. Well done good sir. Well done!
Excellent testing without the co2 sensor on it! When I saw that the first thing that came to my mind was "what if that sensor fails?" Now I know it doesn't matter because I can take it off if that happens, thanks!
Glad it helped!
Thanks for the review. I was also worried about the sensor fearing that I wouldn't be able to use the generator when needed. Thanks for showing us how to bypass in an emergency.
Excellent,added to my Honda collection,one EX4500S,two HondaEU2000I,one HondaEu2200i,one Eu220It blue tooth.
Thanks for testing the co sensor. This was/is my biggest concern. if the design changes or there is a parts problem I don't want my generator to be down for something that is only a "nice to have" --- if you follow the instructions, you'll never need this component.
I"m most excited that Honda finally added the ability to turn off the fuel separate from the ignition. The amount of small engines damaged by bad fuel...you can make a good living just knowing how to clean a carb...
That isn't the CO sensor. That's the reset switch. The sensor is located in another part of that area.
My EU2000 is 10 years old. Still my most trusted gen.
Thats Honda baby
Hah I bought my EB5000 in the early 90 still using it sometime
@@fozziebear411 still running fine?
@@johnmead9012 first year using it almost everyday and now whenever framing new houses I using it until I got the temporary power pole yes it still running fine
@@fozziebear411 damn that's great 👍
Living where hurricanes knock the power out ever single year at the worst times, this was very helpful and informative. Thanks!
I've had a Eu 2000 I for 7 years,never let me down once. Just keep up on the maintenance and they will fire up ,they're pretty much bulletproof. Nice to see some much needed technology added to such a reliable product.
That was an excellent video. Detailed, concise, useful, well-produced. Thank you.
I bought mine a few days ago. Stumbled across the new model by accident at my local farm and ranch store.
absolutely perfect review. and they did a good job with the sensor. works great, but if it's a dire emergency and the sensor stops working, you can disconnect, make sure the gen is well out in the breeze and let er rip.
My EU2200i has been a beast! It just doesn’t stop running
I'll admit when I first saw the title of the video NEW HONDA BLUETOOTH Generator EU2200i Exposed looked like typically RUclips clickbait but I was actually very impressed with this demonstration. Thank you for the video!!!
What a superbly detailed video, with excellent, relevant imagery and corresponding narration.
I found the video to be both interesting and informative and the test of the CO2 Detector was great.
Even better was your testing to verify that the machine would still start and run even if it was disconnected!
Your review of the phone App was also really well done.
I'm happy to subscribe to such a helpful, informative channel.
Love your reviews with all the angles!
Glad you like them! This video was fun but it took me a ton of time
I am still using my Honda EU1000 I got in about y2k or the year 2000. Always take it on on road trips. It has been a life saver for me and other worrier travelers.
I love the EU1000, I had a few and wish I kept them all. My most favorite tiny gas generator!
I’m 54 and always thought you screw the oil stick in to check the oil level. Never to old to learn something new. Thanks for the intel brother. 👍
I work with a lot of Honda generators. The EU2200i is the MOST oil overfilled generator I see. People tilt them, and add more oil, overfill etc. So I wanted to point that out, but not every model is the same the Hondas are but other engines, companies do have you screw in the stick as well. So you may have been right depending which models you use,
Silver Cymbal Roger that. Thanks again.
I'm glad you tested the generator without the CO detector connected at all. At first I was like "Sounds like a great way for Honda to make you buy a new generator." At least you can unplug it completely and still have it work. I'm sure the part itself is inexpensive, but the wiring is probably Honda's proprietary blend of herbs and spices and are likely very reluctant to sell you this part for less than the cost of replacing your 2200i
It will only run for a short while (10-15 minutes) with it unplugged
He simply disconnected the reset/test button & led cluster. The actual sensor module is inside the case on the right side behind the panel he removed. Best I can tell from the shop manual, the CO Minder provides a grounding output to the inverter board just like the low oil sensor. In fact, they land on the same pin on the inverter board (yellow wire). So it’s a neat feature for those who are dumb enough to run their generators indoors, but a hassle for the rest of us. If mine ever trips on this CO noise, I’ll be lifting that yellow wire off of the actual module before a dealer ever sees it. Bet.
Thanks for the great review. I am always impressed with your reviews and the condition of all of your equipment. You keep all of your equipment clean and looking brand new.
Just got mine. I'm so happy with everything about it and this video really inspired me to go for it. Thank you so much it is a great review of this product!
One more Texan here watching this now.
Great review mate. Subscribed 👍🏻
You do the best reviews by far. Thank you
Great review. I’m in the market and I appreciate the fact that it would run w/o the sensor plugged in.
Great review and intro to the product!
Thanks so much! I was so excited to get one of these, You can probably guess this was NOT a sponsored review. Honda would never have sanctioned me doing all this but someone needs to answer the question about the CO system.
Good review! Thanks! I appreciate you bringing the CO sensor to our attention and the fact that it can be disconnected so it will work when and where we may need it. I don’t like the fact that the DC panel has been eliminated !!! Many uses for that DC panel. I won’t be buying this model because of that.
Isn't DC also available from the generator paralleling terminals? Isn't that the whole point of those terminals, to provide +12VDC to parallel to another generator?
Really a well done review, I've started sending the link to customers that buy an EU from my shop
Thank you so much for the in-depth review!
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Bought one when the day it was released. Pretty awesome generator
Great to hear, it has to be the quietest launch I have ever seen.
what is cost about ?
My fire department uses Honda. They are absolutely great units. Never had a problem with one.
My favorite part of these generators is the way they have set up to drain the carburetor bowl and it just drains out the bottom
Occasionally you come across a master on RUclips. Here is one. He is always trying to figure out better ways to fix the things most of us just live with and grumble about. His videos are clear and very, very, thorough. This one is a good example. He knows Honda generators better than the company engineers themselves. The vIdeo gets my own award of surprising excellence today. BRAVO!
Wow, what a nice thing to say, I really appreciate that!
I second your really well written post!
Great video,great presentation good job 👍
One of the best vids I’ve ever watched on YT, well done my friend!
I had to buy this as a result of a power outtage from a storm in Sacramento, CA.
I'm not a big fan of reviews, especially because my grammar sucks. Anyways I'm glad I got this generator,especially with a new born. It was the last one available so I got really lucky.
In 2 days I was able to run my fridge, small heater, 55" tv,cable box,water dispenser with no problem,power strips to charge phones & flashlights.
Just whenever I needed to use the microwave,you have to turn everything else off and dedicate it solely to the microwave otherwise it will pop the breaker.
It's hard to guess how much gas you have left in it, but I would fill it up every 4 hours.
Best investment you can make.I promise it pays itself off by just saving the money on food that doesnt go to waste.
Nice review. Reminds me of Milwaukee's One Key. The last thing I need is my generator talking to my phone. And like you said, all these bells and whistles yet still no fuel gauge - the one thing you really NEED on a generator. There are a lot of electronics in these Honda inverter generators that can prevent them from starting and running. If the Bluetooth can shut off the generator it too can prevent it from starting. On the subject of fuel, I would like to see Honda increase the size of the fuel tank opening. It is almost impossible to see the level of fuel down the hole while you are filling. As a result it is very easy to overflow, which of course is made worse by the lack of a fuel gauge.
All great points and I totally agree about the gas, its the most stressful tank I fill up! Little but....stop...filll...little more...spill! I would like to see that improved too!
You just need an auto stop fill adapter for your gas bottle that’s all 👍
Is this because people at Honda are completely stupid, or is it because they have no idea, how to add a gauge?
Hmmm... I don‘t get it.
Maybe noone has told them? Or they just don‘t care?
Any real answer available?
@@AhrensburgTV Honda equipment is weird. They make some of the best built reliable equipment available but some of their design queues are from the dark ages. In this day and age when almost everyone includes an oil dipstick, Honda still uses the tiny oil plug where if the oil runs out when you open it, it's full. :-) I don't know if you remember the Honda riding mowers but they were some of the best ever made yet they had some features that were completely stupid and backwards from everything else on the market.
I don’t even need this. Watched entire video.
You need it. You've just been lucky, and on borrowed time. Get one while you still can.
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Every state in the US will experience flooding at some point. Hello global warming. Also, the power grid tends to get more unstable the more electric cars you hook onto it. Everyone needs this generator, they just don't know it yet. If you live in an apartment, as long as you have a balcony, you should still be able to run this and survive. (And maybe flooding is less of an issue if you aren't on the ground floor, but power outages still would be.)
Excellent review. Came in just in time since I was about to buy one this week. Had I not seen this Vid I would’ve purchased the older version.
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This is a great video. Thanks! I just ordered my very first generator. I chose the Honda 2200 with bluetooth. This video taught me so much! Love it! :)
Wow. So those Honda inverter generators are becoming so popular and the best inverter generators ruclips.net/video/aS142bxFxq0/видео.html there are things special about them.
external co2 sensors are cheap, don't need it built-in. that was a good review, thanks.
External sensors aren’t going to shutoff the generator automatically. If you have animals or children this is a great feature. Accidents happen and this reduces the risk of a terrible one. And if you need you can disconnect the module. Seems like a no brainer to me.
I have the old model, still works great, only way I would update is if I could start it up from the app
If it doesn't have a starter motor and battery, I don't get how that would happen....
will this machine run a small window air conditioner? ty
@@lleaha no you need to parallel two together. Otherwise it doesn’t have enough power to turn on compressor
@@lleaha I'm pretty sure it will. My older model EU2000 runs small AC units.
@@lleahaIt should be able to start a Frigidaire brand because most Frigidaires have soft start systems in them. The problem with some others is the starting surge. Running, they only use about 4 to 500 W. If it won't start yours, you might be able to add a soft start system to it.
I have this model..bought in Michigan during a business cross last year. Canada doesn't have the BT model..and as such a bit tricky to download the app for my phone in Canada.
I LOVE IT..worth every penny!
Fantastic job! Thanks for all the great information. These little genny's are the best. I just bought the new companion to supplement my other 2200i without Bluetooth for the next storm.
There is something special about the Honda inverter generators ruclips.net/video/aS142bxFxq0/видео.html we have been noticing how popular those inverter generators are becoming. They seem like almost the best inverter generators.
Looking at the schematic for the generator its the yellow wire going to the CO sensor that would shut the unit down. The same wire is also routed to the low oil switch. It looks like grounding this wire will shut it down.
I am repairing a generator in Japan.
The product is a good idea.
It is even better if you install a starter motor.
O, you can install a starter motor on this model? If yes can you please post the parts and instructions - that would be awesome.
What an excellent review, thank you so much!
Got honda 12 years old, running like new, also got Ryobi with bluetooth , 3 years old running strong
Now! We all need these in Texas!
Thanks for the outstanding video. I purchased an EU2200i yesterday as a backup to my trusty old EU2000i. Like you and so many others, the sensor has me bugged. I was glad to see the unit still runs with the CO module disconnected, but I still have a concern. I assume the CO module is just an input/output device to the internal controller. Inputs being the CO sensor and the reset button. Outputs being the LED's. I worry the control logic will still shut the unit down after the sensor "expire" time arrives, and only an authorized service tech can reset the unit after replacing the module. It will be interesting to watch this drama unfold as these CO-Minder equipped generators age. I suspect there will be much more said about this to come. Thank you.
Great video, answers all my questions. I really appreciate all that content.
amazing video specially the co alarm testing you did , i love this video, i like to buy a product and feel i own it and don't want to deal with manufacture or dealer for any fixing or maintenance. Almost everything now days feels like Netflix you have to pay monthly or yearly. again amazing video
Nice review. For small Generators I can do without the Bluetooth. I rather have that info on a nice color screen located on the Generator. Some of the Lithium Battery Generators are doing that and it is quite handy. The new Bluetti AC200. Overall Honda's are still the best gas Generators.
That big square space where the CO-Minder auto destruct feature is located would be a great use of space for a digital amp/voltmeter. You can buy these things on ebay for $6 and you don't need a phone to read it. Just point eyeballs and it works! This idea is in the same category of the non-existent Honda gas cap fuel gauge. No Phones/Apps. Just look at gauge and it works! That might be a $15 part. People have been asking for the fuel gauge forever and Honda knows this but instead we get something Honda's Lawyers wanted and yet another thing that has to have a phone and an "App". The idea of practical usefulness has escaped Honda. BTW: I wonder what data the "App" is sending to Honda Inc. or 3rd party contractor? Quite frankly it is none of their business when, where, how often, how long you have the thing running. The next question is what data is being sent from Honda Inc. or 3rd party to the "App" and then to the generator? More than likely there is a disable function. If I had one of these new models, I'd go in there and unplug both the CO-Minder and the Bluetooth modules and put a hammer to them ASAP. When is this intrusive control BS going to end?
Great review thumbs up on the co2 info
Glad it was helpful!
Great stuff as usual. Thank you sir!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Bonjour, je suis très ravi de regarder vos vidéos , vous faites de très bonnes présentations et je vous encourage à continuer à nous faire découvrir de belles trouvailles. Chapeau et Merci
Best generator on the market hands down. I’ve got thousands of hours on my eu2200i.
Well I guess you better bring it in for an oil change & servicing before your pistons lock up
@@centeguahan3760 you idiot I change the oil every 40 hrs. Bring it in where?? I’m not lazy and stupid like you millennials I take care of my own maintenance and repairs!!
@@darrylmcginty1296 someone is sensitive...nice assumptions. You sound pretty ignorant assuming all people from certain generations are the same though. Millennials range from 25-40 years old but I’m sure you already knew that with how smart you are.
(silver cymbal takes out the CO safety switch)
well, now we know for sure this is not a sponsored video LOL
I figured that would definitely eliminate any doubts!
Love that you disconnected that sensor on the vid.. game changer. Bought mine today!
@@happyseany Glad it helped. amzn.to/3kfGnBp Is a nice upgrade for sure!
Lost my pre co minder on Matagorda beach with hutch propane kit gahhhh. Buying this one tomorrow after seeing you can eliminate this nanny bullcrap, thanks.
Has anyone been able to operate the unit with the front module disconnected? I disconnected it so it would run under my truck bed cover to keep it out of the weather (still had some ventilation) and it still knew to trip. Overly sensitive pain in the butt feature. Only, with the front module disconnected, there was no way to reset it. The generator wouldn’t start no matter how many times I pulled the string. I had no choice but to reconnect it and use it to clear the fault. The sensor is somewhere else - deeper within the unit. Hopefully, someone will figure out how to bypass it eventually. Very annoying. If you don’t know by now not to sleep next to a running engine and exhaust fumes this little safeguard will only delay the inevitable. The engineers did their homework - made a pretty confounding, hard to overcome feature. That little plastic module does two things - it indicates when there’s a CO trip and it lets you reset the generator so you’re not locked out from being able to restart. The replaceable part is elsewhere.
In the market for a generator and this helps me become more informed in my decision. Thanks for the video.
Glad it was helpful! Thank you
This was a great video. Great information, Thanks. subscribed
Great to know. Post hurricane we ran our eu2000 for 200 hours. Hate to think the co sensor could be a mission critical failure or expire in the middle of a disaster...
Apparently not- as was demonstrated by removing the CO2 connector.
@@garbinator09 hopefully you'd have the security bit in a disaster. (Or hopefully you know how to drill out screws. Or hopefully your drill still has power, hah!) You could probably drill out the security bit stubs and make it into a normal hex screw.
You’re in Bluetooth range. “Generator has started.” OH REALLY???!! BRRraahhhh
mighty handy bit of kit , great review.
Lisent. I went through 6 months without electricity here in Puerto Rico back when huracan María sent us back to the 1800s. This generator is a really amazing thing. We plug it directly to the main braker and ran the entire house with it. No AC obviously but 3-4 floor fans, garage doors, all the lights in the house, tv, the fridge and the microwave (usually we unplug the fridge to run the microwave).
It is still running strong when we get a power outage even after all this years since the huracan. And let’s not forget about the 6 months of abuse working 16 hours per day back in 2017. A full tank last anywhere from 8-10 hours in ecomode and requiere about $2.50 at current gas prices. Thats just insane.
As long as we dont use things like the water heater or the iron while also powering the house that puppy lights the entire house without even increasing its revs.
And yes I do know its not “rated” for that but at the time there was the need for a generator that was able to work with less than $5 per day. Remember, 6 months without electricity living out of savings and with 2 days waiting lines at the gas station. The little red thing blew our minds. I will always recommended
Did you properly lock out / tag out your breaker panel so some knucklehead wouldn't switch on the mains and backfeed/electrocute someone working on the power lines? Technically what you did is "illegal", but with the proper lock out / tag out, it should be safe. (But anyone working for the power company wouldn't want to have to have their life depend on your abilities.)
It is very suitable for my Tesla, thanks~
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Great video! After you disconnected the CO plug, did you run the unit inside your UTV again to see if it would or wouldn't sense CO and shutoff?
Really? How on earth is the sensor going to do anything when it's disconnected?
Great video and editing. Thanks!
Great Job. I like your style of reviewing!
Much appreciated!
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I make better one all by myself, out of plant based plastics, charged by solar, that powers its own production, and only marginally more expensive, and weighs slightly less.
Do you have to have internet in order to connect Bluetooth? Sometimes I camp where there's no cell phone signal.
@@anythingadrenaline4515 No once you have the app you are just directly connecting to the generator
The link is dead, thank you for the review! Had an older model, it is a wonderful generator and hold its value. Only thing is a bit of under power for the price.
Hopefully someone figures out a way to add the BT circuitry to the old eu2200i, i would really like to have that feature on mine, but not enough to sell it and buy another
Great informative video, what the real world craves. Thank you so much. Greg
I appreciate. I have been using Honda generators for a very long time and they are by no means cheap but they have made some great products. I was very pleased with this one, add a gas gauge and it would be perfect!
Well done vedio covered the generator cleanly and detailed with good info on the app and sensor possible issue and how to fix it or disconnect it and still be able to run it. 👍
Awesome video. I love the app, but i had the same reservations about CO-minder. I figured you couldn't disconnect it and start the unit. I ended up buying a 2200i companion non co-mider. Had i watched your video and saw that you could disconnect the co-minder and still start it, i probably would have bought the one with co-minder to get the bluetooth option...
You really can't go wrong either way but the app functionality is good. One nice plus is that they have awesome resale value if you decided to sell in the future. Even the 15 year old original EU2000i still sell for about 60% of what they cost new which is amazing.
Silver Cymbal yep I have a eu2000i made in Japan version that I can link my new eu2200i companion with... I checked the serial numbers and it will work
Can still start it.. but mine would shut down after a while of running when CO-MINDER was disconnected! Anyone else done long-term test (5 minutes or more) with CO-MINDER disconnected? Very curious.
@@seansherman1937 Did it start again after shut down ? Also, did it shut off every time after disconnect of the sensor ?
Really good review... The only thing you 'really' should have done though aside from the CO detection, was or would to have actually checked the running voltage with a volt meter at each socket. This would properly indicate the root need of the 'inverter' portion is producing proper voltage where a number of generators normally fail at overcharging once the speed of it is increased. Otherwise, good job.
Nice review, good testing on the CO2 sensor and good on Honda for allowing the generator to start/run with it unplugged.
its not a co2 sensor, its a co sensor, also this might not be the sensor, could just be the fault display unit
I found an older 2000i at a yard sale for $100. Runs great and really no need. But such a good deal, I'll keep it around for the occasional offsite need, or if someone needs to barrow one. These things are bulletproof
Does it have GPS tracker. Someone stole my 2000 watt. That would be a nice feature.
Question?
I bought a Honda EU7000is a couple of years ago & I’m a convert. I love💕 my generator. I have used it twice at my house during power interruptions. Once for 12 hours in the winter. A second time just last month for 3 days. It has already paid for itself in my opinion. I can run my entire house & my central air with this one unit. Ofcourse it is wired by an electrician to my house electric grid.
I’m curious if my model is Bluetooth compatible as well? It has electric start & is their flagship inverter generator.
You’ll laugh at this but I hardly ever am home when it’s on because I work as a utility lineman restoring power to other people’s homes & businesses.
I also own an EU7000is and used it here for 7 day straight ruclips.net/video/zHfIqAiUM-s/видео.html I never shut down, refueled it non-stop, its an amazing machine. But it isn't bluetooth or app compatible. They have a new one coming out this fall that like this model will also have the app control.
HI SIR! WHEN YOU USE YOUR GEN SET, DO YOU HAVE TO EMPTY THE GAS TANK OR IS IT SAFE TO LEAVE IT UNTIL YOUR NEXT USAGE? IN MY CASE I ALWAYS USE MY GEN ONCE EVERY 3 MONTHS. THANK YOU SIR!
No sir’s are necessary-I’m a working guy.
As for fuel storage? If you use your generator atleast every few months? I wouldn’t think you need to do anything with your fuel? We use our generator for when we lose power at home. We lose power for atleast a day once a year. I add Stabil Fuel stabilizer (marine grade) with Startron fuel enzyme. We do that out of an abundance of caution. I add both into empty 5 gallon gas cans before fueling up. That way it properly mixes as I add fuel. I keep my fuel upwards of a year without separation or degradation.
Many people might be surprised but the EU7000is is very fuel efficient. During a recent storm in the summer time, we only used about 11 gallons of gas a day. That’s while running the central air during the hottest part of the day with windows open at night. We burned about 30 gallons of gas over a three day outage. That’s running the entire house. 2 full-size refrigerators & an extra large freezer. Hot water, washer/dryer & stove/oven. My wife was using her lap top & my sister in-law was watching tv with lights on.
You might ask what I was doing? I was restoring power as a lineman for the local power company & only coming home to refuel & sleep.
@@johnclyne6350 what a wonderful and informative reply, Mr. John! Big help for me! Unfortunately, I'm not sure if the said additive is available here in my country. Thanks again, Mr. John!
@@edssan 3 months should be ok on its own but if you want to be safe, add what I do here to your gas and you can leave it for up to 2 years and not worry: ruclips.net/video/KwfAEGZiE2I/видео.html
the video is very informative and very well done - thanks!
This video is now in the Honda R&D to design the non-start function if the sensor is unplugged!! Good review! I've had the old one for 3 years, used it almost everyday! Great unit.
And it will get worse. At some point the only way future models will start is once they "phone home" and make sure that you (the owner) are not on the no-gen-allowed list and that you have certified your identity via the "app" and that you correctly answer the 20 questions and you meet Honda's/Government Authorities permissible use of the generator... (for example: powering to allow your home heating system might not qualify, but keeping your Smart TV and Smart Phone and other 24/7 monitoring devices would be allowed) and also certify that you hold Honda in no way responsible for anything and then your generator will run for only X hours as determined by Honda and Government.
@@bossu2005 Woudnt that be good if someone stole it? Use the phone as a "Key"?
Why would they get rid of the battery charger? That seems more handy then the bluetooth function.
They got rid of the 12 volt circuit because less then 5% of the purchasers ever bought the 12 volt charging cord. Plus the 12 volt system was unregulated and there are so many good 12 volt chargers that you an buy and just plug it into the 120 AC outlet. I have had my EU2000i for over 17 years and have never used the 12 volt system.
Because raising the MSRP $100 for the "co-minder/bluetooth" model was not enough. They saved $2 by not keeping the 12 volt receptacle and breaker. There was more than enough room on the panel to accomodate both the 12 volt receptacle and breaker and the co-minder sensor/light/reset button.
Marketing. BT sells. Silly I know.
Too bad, I use that battery charger quite often on my 3000is too bad it was removed :(
Run your generator for only 8 amps worth of charging? totally pointless. I have a 30 amp charger I use in conjunction with my EM600 generator and they're perfectly matched. Pulls about 500 watts making much better use of the power available.
Silver Cymbal: You are going to get more views of this video than there are Honda eu2000i/eu2200i generator owners!
I think there are way more owners out there, Honda sells more of these than you would believe
I bought an EU2200i just a couple of months ago, and it was the -1 version, without the CO sensor. It was able to power the fridges, a couple lamps and wifi for my two neighbors and me at the same time. If one needed to use the sump pump, we had to reduce power a bit so it wouldn't shut off. While twice the price of the other competitors, it's twice the unit and does not have a cheap motor in it.
It is definitely one of the best generators in this size made. Not cheap but long lasting and the resale value of old ones is beyond unbelievable. Rusted out 2000is still get $600 that only cost $849 new 20 years ago!
@@SilverCymbal Some people just don't understand (or are unwilling to understand) , that the Honda EU series are the best VALUE generators that money can buy. I actually used to be one of those people, but I learned a valuable lesson. Cry once when you buy the Honda, and know that it will serve you well. If you ever need, or want, to sell it in the future, you're sure to smile.
100 % enjoyed your review. Thanks
Good review. Honda screwed up removing the DC functionality of this generator and I guess I’ll be looking at a different model to buy because of it. Way to go Honda, you add something that’s not that beneficial “Bluetooth” (can’t restart it) and take away something that lots of folks use on this size of inverter generator. 👍
Well the Bluetooth feature is great
However the co2 system is what needs to go. Bring back the DC charger !
Honda is always good at being a 2nd rate Toyota.
I'd much rather have an LCD display like their other models than Bluetooth. I don't want to have to pull out my phone to check current draw or engine hours.
Bluetooth seems like it should be more resilient against years of usage vs an LCD display. An LCD display will only last a decade or less if it's smashed or heat damaged. An LED display might have been nice. But what would you have on it? % load? They could have done that with a simple LED bar graph.
You did a nice job on this.
Great review, video & audio - also liked your Kubota! I was thinking of this to power just my kitchen fridge or just my boiler - each about 400 watts - during an outage. I know it is only .95 gallons but says up to 7.5 hrs run time. What is your experience?
Pretty funny, the owner of the Honda generator, bought a Kubota side by side! So Honda made it to communicate with a phone app, but removed what appeared to be USB port for charging your phone😂. In addition, there is no 30amp plugin, so you can hook two together for 4400 amp but you are not able to use that amount of power for an RV or your house. Now that is some intelligent design😂!
When you combine two Honda the second MUST be the companion model that has the 30 AMP plug for using it on RVs. I have no idea why there is no USB but my theory is that USBs were never designed for outside use and they could easily get crapped up. Honda is usually thinking its owners want very long term use so that could be why they leave it out.
@@SilverCymbal If Honda is thinking that its customers want long term use why are they adding more electronic crap to their tried and true designs?
@@gil6995 They really have no choice, they can't have other brands having, USB, Bluetooth, etc. At some point they will look too dated. Hopefully these things will be as well engineered as the inverter itself has been.
@@gil6995 Probably getting sued from people dying over CO.
Thank you for sharing this great review! Even with the new blue tooth upgrade I’m still going to stick with my 2018 EU2200i. I like the 12 volt charging capability. Runs like a top, and should for many years to come. Again as always sir, great video!👍😃
having that app to use as a WATT meter would be amazing. Sadly those hondas are far out of my price range. THanks for sharing. Since COVID my family and I have been living in our RV and i have been in the process of refurbishing a china made ETQ TG3000 to help with those no power moments.
Loved the video. I put the after market remote kit on my eu3000 and love being able to shut it off from a distance and always wanted Honda to just put that function in. I will by one of these at some point now that I know the co2 sensor wont leave me stranded when I most need the gen to operate.Thanks