I was born with a severe leg length discrepancy. After two corrective procedures at the age of 16 I was told nothing more could be done and that i’d have to use a lift for the rest of my life. It’s been 8 years since then and this week my case was resubmitted to a surgeon for review to lengthen. I’m 24 now and spend 5 days a week in the gym. Seeing your videos and progress puts wind in my sails, you’re the living proof I needed today. Thank you for being vocal. I’m not sure my case will be taken on... but these videos give me courage ❤️ much love to you.
Wow that's a very inspiring story and my hope is that you're able to be reconsidered and get it done as you will need it if discrepancy is large like you say. I really am empathetic for your condition as I had one too
Thanks again, Victor. I didn’t know you’d already covered this topic long ago. I was actually thinking about how soon one could get back to the lower body lifting after the surgery but hey here we are you’ve answered all my questions and concerns about gym and training in one video, many thanks for that.
lol true say bro, you do actually read my mind because ever time I think about a new question there I find my answer in one of your videos that was uploaded months ago, thank you for the great service, Victor.
Nah don't do it. When you're done with lengthening email me and I'll coach you to build more muscle naturally than you probably would taking stuff and it'll be waaaay safer
@@Cyborg4Life Victor, I really look up to you, when I am done with lengthening, will you help me? I pray to god I can get this surgery in like five years.
Awesome stuff bro you are motivating me to get back to soccer but also into body building. I really want to be symmetrical not only physically but mentally! Thanks g
Did you notice a higher amount of weight being added to your squats after your height increase? like did getting taller make you somehow a little bit stronger with the extra muscle recruitment from longer legs?
That is a great question and although I got the tibia done yes I noticed I was stronger on calf movements and more power due to new muscle from the lengthening. That will happen in the femurs if someone gets those lengthened too. Although rehab and rebuilding has to occur first
Question for a bodybuilder. Did you use and do you believe drugs helped recovery? Is it a good or bad idea to take HGH or steroids to recover faster? Or will that make things worse if bone and muscle grows too fast?
ah not sure man. I mean I know they could help but I have no clue about the potential complications or interactions that could occur. For example during lengthening your doc will prescribe you take heparin or some sort of blood thinner to prevent clotting during distraction phase so that could be an issue when taking PEDs. And your other point could be valid that you won't want any premature consolidation or else they have to go back in and do another osteotomy. Breaking again could cause problems...
Hi There, My brother is really struggling with his height. He is a professional dancer and grew up doing ballet and acrobatics. A beautiful dancer, but he feels from his experience his height holds him back. Was actually told if he was just taller he could have had a great ballet career. He is around 5'6-5'7 in height. He has been looking into this surgery and feels this would change his life for the better and would give him the opportunity to pursue his dreams of ballet. As a sister, I have my concerns. What is your personal opinion, would he be able to gain his ability back by lengthing his legs 3 inches. Any advice would be greatly appreciated?
Yeah he should be able to but for full performance a bit less length would probably be safer like 2-2.5 inches but the surgeon would be able to dictate this best
Hey Cyborg! Thanks for the reply, just saw my sister's comment. I watched your interview with Marie, I am going to be speaking with her this week to set up the details :) your videos are amazing and super helpful 👌 I'm wondering how you tackled the recovery? Did you create an specific routine with your doctor?
@@itsjoshuabello That's awesome I'm glad you found the info you needed. But yes, I worked closely with my physiotherapist but then created my own routine to do at home. I have a program I'm working on releasing to help patients recover. But if you're a dancer it might need some adjustments
I'm 5'9 and can afford surgery, but I'm 35. I'm not sure it's a fair trade off in terms of time lost. Perhaps if I was 10 years younger. What do you think 5'9 bros?
@@karlandersson209 It could potentially leave us crippled etc. I've found wearing Nike Air Max trainers adds a good inch or so and looks natural. It's relieved me of my height insecurity a little bit.
@@richp.1234 Have you heard of anyone becoming crippled from it? I think if you do the femur Stryde with a good surgeon it should be relatively safe. Im more worried about permanent athletic performance being altered.
@@karlandersson209 Yes, there was one woman on the leg lengthening forums who has been left pretty much crippled, and has had to undergo numerous other surgeries after. She got hers done in London. That being said the vast majority of operations seem to be successful. That concerns me too. I'd hate to not be able run again. On the other hand being 5'11+ barefoot would be great.
@@jonathanrobinson913 yeah there's definitely a limit to it. But I could probably do another 2 or possibly 3inches (up to 8cm) without risking complications. Meaning I would top out at near 6ft
@@Cyborg4Life even more questions A) Did you experience any pain in your bones when using that magnetic thing? Did you experience sudden stabbing pain in your bones? B) Was physiotherapy painful all the time? C) Did this surgery negatively influence your body proportion? D) did you receive constant psychological help during this process of getting taller? E) how long did it take you to regain your mobility for doing ordinary thing you used to do pre-op? Thanks a lot for your patience.
For someone with “average” leg flexibility, how many months minimum with almost daily stretching would you suggest as far as building the right flexibility prior to surgery? Have you heard of ARP Wave therapy? They’re the electrical pads placed on muscles and stimulated hundreds of times per session; not to be confused with the cheap garbage Instagram models sell for less than $100. I’m wondering if that would prevent a lot of muscle loss.
Great question. Once I scheduled my surgery (3 weeks after my consult) I knew I'd have to be in tip top shape for an easier time while down and when rehabbing back to my feet. So I would workout (lifting, cardio, abs) 4-5x per week and stretch for 10min post lift after I was thoroughly warmed up to improve my ROM as much as possible. This definitely helped as I'm sure I would have been much stiffer during post-op rehab if I didn't do this pre-op flexibility prep. I have heard of wave therapy before and I definitely believe that could help muscle tone and function while down as it's what my actual physical therapists had me use on my quads, calves, etc so I didn't get too much muscle loss. But a good system is needed like you mentioned not those fake ones being promoted all over the place lol
LON method is a great method to reduce costs even though more involved via combining 2 methods. I think so long as you keep the external fixator incisions clean to prevent infection you'll be fine. Which leg will depend on how much height you'd like. If 2" or less I think either is fine, preferably the tibias. But if more than 2" you almost have to do the femurs plus the better blood flow in the thigh accelerates healing vs. tibia lower leg. Regardless a solid rehab and rebuild phase will be really important.
I got the surgery done by Dr. Janet Conway at RIAO of Sinai Hospital in Baltimore, MD in the USA. This was on 7-30-12 and I was walking without crutches by 11-23-12 less than 4 months and that was with PRECICE nail 1 (the original) there is much better devices nowadays
Cyborg 4 Life i m 5 feet 6 and half,wanna get surgery too but cost of surgery is beyond my range. How old were u,when u got surgery? If u don’t tell anyone that u got leg lengthening surgery.no one can notice that u got a leg lengthening surgery. U seem very proportional.i have watched a lot of people interviews who have got surgery, they seem disproportional.
@@UmarFarooq-ez1eo I was 23 when I got the surgery and you're right it's very expensive especially in the US. I hope more payment options become available in the future. You're right! I have to actually tell people I had the surgery and they're always shocked that I had such a thing done but I worked extremely hard in a strategic way to make my proportions and physique and strength come back the way I wanted to. I wish I could help these people rehab better so they could realize they can get so much more out of it
Cyborg 4 Life thanks buddy for all the info,u provided me. If somehow I could manage that much money in my life,I would definitely get the surgery and would contact u during rehabilitation. I joined your channel and thanks for being so cooperative.
Typically it's done via an outpatient procedure. Quick knock out and yeah you can usually walk but I believe the doctors want you to use crutches for a few days or so for caution. But within 2 weeks your fine and by 4 weeks post removal you can resume full on normal activity again
Hi, thanks a lot for the content. I'm planning to go through the process in a few years from now to grow around 6cm (femur only, maybe tibias later, but not too sure about it yet), is there anything I can do in the next years to incrase my chances of success and athletic abilities? I've been doing bodybuilding for the last year and a half and I started training flexibility a few weeks ago I'm looking to do the surgery when I'm close to my natural limit in both muscle and flexibility.
Nice glad you took up bodybuilding and stretching. Just workout, cardio and stretch after each workout as you get within 6 months of LL and you should be fine
@@Cyborg4Life Thank you for the heads up, it a means lot. I've been working out a lot in cardio, bodybuilding and stretching and noticed I have very short femur (almost 40cm:40cm femur to tibia ratio), so I think I have some headroom to improve, although this seems to help a lot in squats, then maybe going for 6cm in the femur may keep my squatting "benefits". I'm very motivated to do it and your channel has been very helpful. Wish you the best!
Do you think that your outcome may be better than the average cosmetic patient due to the fact that you only had one leg done? Since your leg that wasn't operated on, can compensate for the one that was operated? Or do you feel that your legs are equal?
Good question. So yes, for during the surgery process it was far easier to move around than if I had bilateral. But leading into my surgery the damage had already been done. Joint degradation and scoliosis etc. So I "paid up front" with pain and most likely long-term too but cosmetic patients have a harder time during due to both legs being out of commission. As far as who's recovery is better, if cosmetic can get full ROM back (easier said than done) then they will be minus chance for balance issues and power output aka "billed in arrears". But discrepancy patients are most likely screwed with angular deformities and or rotations forcing things like symmetry issues and unilateral training...for life unless surgeon is able to fix it.
I am Too Short and do Gym regularly, My exact Height is 5'3 Feet I want to gain more Height as I feel too Insecure about it, so Should I Opt Limb Lengthening surgery in Upcoming Year. Please Reply 🙏
Hey man your channel is really great, and this video really says it all, I’m trying To increase my height too and I’d prefer to go for this surgery in the future if I can get the money, My question is will I able to walk properly? I also skateboard so will I able to do that too, and I also play electric rock guitar which requires lot of moving on stage like jumping and doing squats, will I be able to do that after the surgery? I’m 5’8 and I’d prefer to lengthen my legs to 5’9 and half, is it possible?
Yes you can do all of those things. You're not looking to skateboard professionally as in x-games right? Then yes, lengthening 1.5-2 inches will allow you to make a full recovery if you dedicate to physiotherapy and rehab.
For me it was 3.5 months but I got less length on tibia not femur and I had the version 1 precice nail which was non-weight bearing. With stryde that doesn't apply so I would say a 4-5month turnaround for a full 3 inches on the femurs
@@Cyborg4Life usually want 2 inches femur reduction surgery and my age is 26+ . Currently working in police .How much time will need to get back to work ?
You mentioned you had a length discrepancy in your legs and after your surgery it helped your nerves fire better? Can you go into more detail of what your symptoms entailed? I have a discrepancy. And on the side of my discrepancy it is so difficult to make my calf muscle flex all the way. I have other problems with my back and neck. Just curious if we have similar diagnosis
Yeah so I noticed I wasn't able to fire my glutes and hamstrings properly including my calf as well. I think it had to do with the leverage points when doing calf raises or sprinting. The back issue and neck tension was a given with the discrepancy and to this day I feel my one shoulder slumps a bit. I could probably correct it with chiropractic and good posture over time but the discrepancy-fix helped me alleviate those other issues to where I don't even think of them. How much is your discrepancy?
So when you say leverage point what do you mean? I almost wonder if it’s like my bone is too short and my calf muscle is too long so it has too much slack. Does that make sense? Just a theory of mine.
@@Whiteviper23 Yeah that's what I think what the issue is. A 3/4" discrepancy is large enough to have that "slack" effect. I'm not sure if you're was caused by an accident like mine but if so, genetically our calf muscles are programmed to grow to their natural length but they're limited to bone length - shorter bone, more "slack" or muscle length reserve in that tissue and leverages will be biomechanically altered. This can lead to muscle imbalances among other issues. Do you manage well with a shoe lift or are you thinking about LL?
@@Cyborg4Life yeah that totally makes sense. I have no idea what caused mine. Just found out I had it at 30 years old. My main issue was my neck but the X-rays discovered the discrepancy. I just started wearing a shoe lift. I’m not sure what to think of it. Feels different definitely. Ideally I would like to have LL surgery. Do you think that could solve the slack issue?
I play football not professionally but i love that game soo much and i was thinking to gain 4-5 inches so will i be able to play it with my full strength after getting it done after proper rehab n all i am willing to give my 100% in recovery so will it be possible to play like before?
What do you think ALBIZZIA® AND GUICHET® NAIL clicking to lengthen in Europe vs Precise nail and electric device. , which one is better for recovery weight bearing and to get back to running lifting looking for 6 to 7.5cm etcALBIZZIA® AND GUICHET® NAIL in Europe vs Precise, which one is better for recovery weight bearing quicker. Which is best.
The Precice is more accurate from the surgeons I've talked to. The Stryde nail is better than most internal nails also for fast weight bearing and athletic recovery
Nice videos, you have helped me so much in my decision to get the procedure. I thought this would be so painful and archaic but thanks to your videos I see that this is very doable. Quick question: how tall were you before and after?
@@Cyborg4Life so I am from west baltimore, not far from sinai hospital and looking to get this done with Dr. Conway...but I am a little confused as to the amount of height that can be gained in the femur, I always see 3 inches promoted but then hear people say they only recieved 2 inches...so my question is, will I gain 2 or 3 inches or does it depend on therapy?
@@Queennyla16 From my hometown that's awesome! So you technically should be able to get the full 8cm or 3 inches in height after the femoral lengthening however she will check your flexibility and as the lengthening begins, monitor your progress very closely over the 12 weeks or so. If you develop excessive tightness, she may recommend you slow or halt your distraction. I am planning to have Dr. Conway on for interview in next two weeks, I just need to prepare questions. She was my doctor and is very good
Once 4 inches is added (femur and tibia), will balance be affected? With daily, consistent rehab therapy and stretching can I return to 100% athleticism with no pain?
2 inches in both I assume. You'll have a pretty good chance but it will take time and things will be different. You'll most likely realize you'll train harder than before and that'll make up the difference
At first, yeah because there was a challenging road to recovery that made me think if I could ever get back. But soon after I was very glad I got it done and never regretted it since I was able to get it all back
@@Cyborg4Life you dont look like the guy who regretted doing the surgery since youve created an entrie channel on it to let other people know on this topic and are being of huge help for people like me. I hope people who did the surgery feels better and not give up on rehab
I would say tibia could be more painful but it all depends on person and device used. If internals I think femurs aren't as bad. 4cm is going to be for one segment since it isn't going to max out the rod or tissues in femur. Tibia 4cm is harder like what I did
@@italianoetnico.calabreseve9262 Yes. That's the biggest benefit of the surgery...the feeling better about yourself. Everything else takes care of itself. Girls can get a vibe that you're secure and self-confident with yourself. I still have girls at the gym always eyeing me up.
Hi cyborg, I would like to know how many inches you did for a leg lengthening surgery. How long did it take for you to be able to lift the same weight after having this surgery. For example you could do 300 dead lift 5 reps and to get to there, it took 1 year. Did you even be able to lift heavier after having this surgery. Thanks !
I did it for discrepancy but I got just about 4cm tibia. Patients for purely cosmetic reasons find that between 5-6.5cm recover very well to train intense again
You can absolutely run after surgery if you get length within safety lengthening parameters. Also it won't be the same as before but once you adapt you will be able to adjust and run well. But if you are an elite collegiate athlete or professional you may want to consider waiting until you are done extremely high level competition as there can be a learning curve to your new height and biomechanics
@@NoRoom4u It took about 5 years but I been training for 13. This means I would build muscle, and cut fat for bodybuilding contests. But 5 to 6 straight years it's achievable. It's hard to maintain if I don't lift intense enough. I compete against high level professional natural bodybuilders so I literally trash my body every time I step foot into a gym but recover as best possible. I think it's a lot easier to maintain as I learn more about my body and the diet that works best
I was born with a severe leg length discrepancy. After two corrective procedures at the age of 16 I was told nothing more could be done and that i’d have to use a lift for the rest of my life. It’s been 8 years since then and this week my case was resubmitted to a surgeon for review to lengthen. I’m 24 now and spend 5 days a week in the gym. Seeing your videos and progress puts wind in my sails, you’re the living proof I needed today. Thank you for being vocal.
I’m not sure my case will be taken on... but these videos give me courage ❤️ much love to you.
Wow that's a very inspiring story and my hope is that you're able to be reconsidered and get it done as you will need it if discrepancy is large like you say. I really am empathetic for your condition as I had one too
@@Cyborg4Life is there a before and after video of your limb lengthening ?
@@izzyali1545 I didn't care to record much
So what happened ?
Dude only for you I went go see doctor M. And doing this..thanks
Say hi to Dr. M for me
Details of Doctor M?
Thanks again, Victor. I didn’t know you’d already covered this topic long ago. I was actually thinking about how soon one could get back to the lower body lifting after the surgery but hey here we are you’ve answered all my questions and concerns about gym and training in one video, many thanks for that.
Haha it's like I read your mind...months ago. Glad it was helpful. Feel free to comment any topics you'd like to suggest
lol true say bro, you do actually read my mind because ever time I think about a new question there I find my answer in one of your videos that was uploaded months ago, thank you for the great service, Victor.
Did the depth in your squat change?
Very nice video! I was thinking take steroids in a very low dosage right after removing device from my legs
Nah don't do it. When you're done with lengthening email me and I'll coach you to build more muscle naturally than you probably would taking stuff and it'll be waaaay safer
@@Cyborg4Life Victor, I really look up to you, when I am done with lengthening, will you help me? I pray to god I can get this surgery in like five years.
Awesome stuff bro you are motivating me to get back to soccer but also into body building. I really want to be symmetrical not only physically but mentally! Thanks g
Sure thing man glad you are active and fit!
Did you notice a higher amount of weight being added to your squats after your height increase? like did getting taller make you somehow a little bit stronger with the extra muscle recruitment from longer legs?
That is a great question and although I got the tibia done yes I noticed I was stronger on calf movements and more power due to new muscle from the lengthening. That will happen in the femurs if someone gets those lengthened too. Although rehab and rebuilding has to occur first
Question for a bodybuilder. Did you use and do you believe drugs helped recovery? Is it a good or bad idea to take HGH or steroids to recover faster? Or will that make things worse if bone and muscle grows too fast?
ah not sure man. I mean I know they could help but I have no clue about the potential complications or interactions that could occur. For example during lengthening your doc will prescribe you take heparin or some sort of blood thinner to prevent clotting during distraction phase so that could be an issue when taking PEDs.
And your other point could be valid that you won't want any premature consolidation or else they have to go back in and do another osteotomy. Breaking again could cause problems...
Hi There,
My brother is really struggling with his height. He is a professional dancer and grew up doing ballet and acrobatics. A beautiful dancer, but he feels from his experience his height holds him back. Was actually told if he was just taller he could have had a great ballet career. He is around 5'6-5'7 in height. He has been looking into this surgery and feels this would change his life for the better and would give him the opportunity to pursue his dreams of ballet. As a sister, I have my concerns. What is your personal opinion, would he be able to gain his ability back by lengthing his legs 3 inches. Any advice would be greatly appreciated?
Yeah he should be able to but for full performance a bit less length would probably be safer like 2-2.5 inches but the surgeon would be able to dictate this best
Hey Cyborg! Thanks for the reply, just saw my sister's comment. I watched your interview with Marie, I am going to be speaking with her this week to set up the details :) your videos are amazing and super helpful 👌 I'm wondering how you tackled the recovery? Did you create an specific routine with your doctor?
@@itsjoshuabello That's awesome I'm glad you found the info you needed. But yes, I worked closely with my physiotherapist but then created my own routine to do at home. I have a program I'm working on releasing to help patients recover. But if you're a dancer it might need some adjustments
I'm 5'9 and can afford surgery, but I'm 35. I'm not sure it's a fair trade off in terms of time lost. Perhaps if I was 10 years younger. What do you think 5'9 bros?
I am 5’10, I think it’s an ok height! I would say save your money!
Im 5"9 aswell, 34 years old, Im considering doing 2" increase. Also not sure if its worth it
@@karlandersson209 It could potentially leave us crippled etc. I've found wearing Nike Air Max trainers adds a good inch or so and looks natural. It's relieved me of my height insecurity a little bit.
@@richp.1234 Have you heard of anyone becoming crippled from it? I think if you do the femur Stryde with a good surgeon it should be relatively safe. Im more worried about permanent athletic performance being altered.
@@karlandersson209 Yes, there was one woman on the leg lengthening forums who has been left pretty much crippled, and has had to undergo numerous other surgeries after. She got hers done in London. That being said the vast majority of operations seem to be successful.
That concerns me too. I'd hate to not be able run again. On the other hand being 5'11+ barefoot would be great.
Thanks for making these videos
How tall were you?
How tall are you now?
I was 5'7" prior and after lengthening etc. I stand just about 5'9" now
@@Cyborg4Life how tall could you potentially become? Are there any limitation to it?
@@jonathanrobinson913 yeah there's definitely a limit to it. But I could probably do another 2 or possibly 3inches (up to 8cm) without risking complications. Meaning I would top out at near 6ft
@@Cyborg4Life on both parts (upper and lower) of the leg or just one part? Which part underwent surgery in your case?
@@Cyborg4Life even more questions
A) Did you experience any pain in your bones when using that magnetic thing? Did you experience sudden stabbing pain in your bones?
B) Was physiotherapy painful all the time?
C) Did this surgery negatively influence your body proportion?
D) did you receive constant psychological help during this process of getting taller?
E) how long did it take you to regain your mobility for doing ordinary thing you used to do pre-op?
Thanks a lot for your patience.
For someone with “average” leg flexibility, how many months minimum with almost daily stretching would you suggest as far as building the right flexibility prior to surgery?
Have you heard of ARP Wave therapy? They’re the electrical pads placed on muscles and stimulated hundreds of times per session; not to be confused with the cheap garbage Instagram models sell for less than $100. I’m wondering if that would prevent a lot of muscle loss.
Great question. Once I scheduled my surgery (3 weeks after my consult) I knew I'd have to be in tip top shape for an easier time while down and when rehabbing back to my feet.
So I would workout (lifting, cardio, abs) 4-5x per week and stretch for 10min post lift after I was thoroughly warmed up to improve my ROM as much as possible. This definitely helped as I'm sure I would have been much stiffer during post-op rehab if I didn't do this pre-op flexibility prep.
I have heard of wave therapy before and I definitely believe that could help muscle tone and function while down as it's what my actual physical therapists had me use on my quads, calves, etc so I didn't get too much muscle loss. But a good system is needed like you mentioned not those fake ones being promoted all over the place lol
Awesome video, Brother!
Thanks Rich!
how much inches did u add? Does ur limb look abit short?
What discount think about Lon method? And do you think I should chose tibia or femur? Time is not important but I love the fitness lifestyle 💯
LON method is a great method to reduce costs even though more involved via combining 2 methods. I think so long as you keep the external fixator incisions clean to prevent infection you'll be fine.
Which leg will depend on how much height you'd like. If 2" or less I think either is fine, preferably the tibias. But if more than 2" you almost have to do the femurs plus the better blood flow in the thigh accelerates healing vs. tibia lower leg. Regardless a solid rehab and rebuild phase will be really important.
İs it possible do high jumps post surgery, and if not will you be able to jump freely after a cosmetic limb surgery
You can jump after the nails are removed.
@@averyjudgementalsoldier8303 Maybye, but as he running would be a struggle due to less flexibility
@@قناةيامافيالجرابياحاوي you would have less flexibility after you get this. Which is why you should stretch and exercise after.
@@averyjudgementalsoldier8303 True
You are the BEST.
Whose the best doctor in the field according to you?
There's so many so hard to pick lol
@@Cyborg4Life Hows Dr. Nic Gay at Silicone Valley Orthopedics?
From Where did u get surgery? How long after surgery,did u start walking without crutches?
I got the surgery done by Dr. Janet Conway at RIAO of Sinai Hospital in Baltimore, MD in the USA. This was on 7-30-12 and I was walking without crutches by 11-23-12 less than 4 months and that was with PRECICE nail 1 (the original) there is much better devices nowadays
Cyborg 4 Life i m 5 feet 6 and half,wanna get surgery too but cost of surgery is beyond my range. How old were u,when u got surgery? If u don’t tell anyone that u got leg lengthening surgery.no one can notice that u got a leg lengthening surgery. U seem very proportional.i have watched a lot of people interviews who have got surgery, they seem disproportional.
@@UmarFarooq-ez1eo I was 23 when I got the surgery and you're right it's very expensive especially in the US. I hope more payment options become available in the future. You're right! I have to actually tell people I had the surgery and they're always shocked that I had such a thing done but I worked extremely hard in a strategic way to make my proportions and physique and strength come back the way I wanted to. I wish I could help these people rehab better so they could realize they can get so much more out of it
Cyborg 4 Life thanks buddy for all the info,u provided me. If somehow I could manage that much money in my life,I would definitely get the surgery and would contact u during rehabilitation. I joined your channel and thanks for being so cooperative.
@@UmarFarooq-ez1eo anytime my man. Wish you the well!
How complicated is the nail / hardware removal surgery, how fast can you walk after that
Typically it's done via an outpatient procedure. Quick knock out and yeah you can usually walk but I believe the doctors want you to use crutches for a few days or so for caution. But within 2 weeks your fine and by 4 weeks post removal you can resume full on normal activity again
Femur or tibia which one is more safe to lengthen? Give me your openion
Femur is safer and easier but tibia can be done if properly approached
@@Cyborg4Life thank u
Hi, thanks a lot for the content.
I'm planning to go through the process in a few years from now to grow around 6cm (femur only, maybe tibias later, but not too sure about it yet), is there anything I can do in the next years to incrase my chances of success and athletic abilities?
I've been doing bodybuilding for the last year and a half and I started training flexibility a few weeks ago I'm looking to do the surgery when I'm close to my natural limit in both muscle and flexibility.
Nice glad you took up bodybuilding and stretching. Just workout, cardio and stretch after each workout as you get within 6 months of LL and you should be fine
@@Cyborg4Life Thank you for the heads up, it a means lot.
I've been working out a lot in cardio, bodybuilding and stretching and noticed I have very short femur (almost 40cm:40cm femur to tibia ratio), so I think I have some headroom to improve, although this seems to help a lot in squats, then maybe going for 6cm in the femur may keep my squatting "benefits".
I'm very motivated to do it and your channel has been very helpful. Wish you the best!
can i squat fully down after 8 cm on femur? in like 2 years after
Yeah you can
Do you think that your outcome may be better than the average cosmetic patient due to the fact that you only had one leg done? Since your leg that wasn't operated on, can compensate for the one that was operated? Or do you feel that your legs are equal?
Good question. So yes, for during the surgery process it was far easier to move around than if I had bilateral. But leading into my surgery the damage had already been done. Joint degradation and scoliosis etc. So I "paid up front" with pain and most likely long-term too but cosmetic patients have a harder time during due to both legs being out of commission. As far as who's recovery is better, if cosmetic can get full ROM back (easier said than done) then they will be minus chance for balance issues and power output aka "billed in arrears". But discrepancy patients are most likely screwed with angular deformities and or rotations forcing things like symmetry issues and unilateral training...for life unless surgeon is able to fix it.
How much did you increase your height, and can a person get back on his feet and become fit 5 years post the Day of surgery
It's my belief if everything is done well yes you can come back fully or at least very very close. I gained almost 2inches after all was done
@@Cyborg4Life how much exactly in cms have you gained in height?, and how long did you take to get back fully post the surgery
Can a pro sprinter come back the same ?
Not sure. We'd have to see more patient cases. But I wouldn't recommend it until after sprinting heyday
I am Too Short and do Gym regularly, My exact Height is 5'3 Feet I want to gain more Height as I feel too Insecure about it, so Should I Opt Limb Lengthening surgery in Upcoming Year. Please Reply 🙏
It's a personal choice to be honest. I hope you are able to make a decision that is right for you!
can we see some before and after photos?
Um I don't have too many since my old PC crahsed a few years ago with footage on it. But latest two video shows some
Can someone join the Army or become A strength athlete 3 years after the Day of Surgery
Yes, you can join the army and become a strength athlete.
Have you done the surgery and became a soldier?
@@قناةيامافيالجرابياحاوي I have not done the surgery yet. Also here’s a heads up: My name is a joke, I am not a soldier.
@@averyjudgementalsoldier8303 OK
Hey brother can I ride bike after the surgery
Yes it should be no problem at all after the main part of your distraction phase that is
Do you have videos of yourself running/squatting/exercising that we can see?
The video is on the beginning
Is there any limitations for lengthening if I do the surgery with LON method ?
Possibly. Especially if you do femurs. The tibias are much safer LON method
how much time it in consolidation for 6cm by LON,MEF and for precice..
Probably around 8-10 weeks for all of them maybe 10 for LON 8 for precice
@@Cyborg4Life Tanx
@@Cyborg4Life means if i do LON or MEF for 6cm outer fixator will remove probably in 5to 6 months. Am i right ??
@@KamalKumar-vf3pv Yeah within that time frame you should be healed
Hey man your channel is really great, and this video really says it all, I’m trying To increase my height too and I’d prefer to go for this surgery in the future if I can get the money,
My question is will I able to walk properly? I also skateboard so will I able to do that too, and I also play electric rock guitar which requires lot of moving on stage like jumping and doing squats, will I be able to do that after the surgery? I’m 5’8 and I’d prefer to lengthen my legs to 5’9 and half, is it possible?
Yes you can do all of those things. You're not looking to skateboard professionally as in x-games right? Then yes, lengthening 1.5-2 inches will allow you to make a full recovery if you dedicate to physiotherapy and rehab.
How long was it after your surgery we’re you up and walking with crutches, then without crutches and walking regularly?
For me it was 3.5 months but I got less length on tibia not femur and I had the version 1 precice nail which was non-weight bearing. With stryde that doesn't apply so I would say a 4-5month turnaround for a full 3 inches on the femurs
@@novicelifts5197 No you can move around with weight bearing device
@@novicelifts5197 Not normally no. But you can use a walking assistance like walker and not fear of breaking device if you don't use it
How tall did you end up?
How much time to get back to work after femur reduction surgery ?
depends on what you do but usually pretty quick after shortening. Like maybe 4-6 weeks
@@Cyborg4Life usually want 2 inches femur reduction surgery and my age is 26+ . Currently working in police .How much time will need to get back to work ?
@@jaman7813 about 4-6 months depending on what you have to do upon returning
@@Cyborg4Life I have to again join to my Police department
How bad was the pain? I'm thinking of getting this done in a few years.
pretty bad in first 2 weeks but then manageable for 2 more weeks then barely noticed it after that. So 1st month is about all
You mentioned you had a length discrepancy in your legs and after your surgery it helped your nerves fire better? Can you go into more detail of what your symptoms entailed? I have a discrepancy. And on the side of my discrepancy it is so difficult to make my calf muscle flex all the way. I have other problems with my back and neck. Just curious if we have similar diagnosis
Yeah so I noticed I wasn't able to fire my glutes and hamstrings properly including my calf as well. I think it had to do with the leverage points when doing calf raises or sprinting. The back issue and neck tension was a given with the discrepancy and to this day I feel my one shoulder slumps a bit. I could probably correct it with chiropractic and good posture over time but the discrepancy-fix helped me alleviate those other issues to where I don't even think of them. How much is your discrepancy?
@@Cyborg4Life mine is about 3/4 an inch. The opposite shoulder of my discrepancy is the one that is lower.
So when you say leverage point what do you mean? I almost wonder if it’s like my bone is too short and my calf muscle is too long so it has too much slack. Does that make sense? Just a theory of mine.
@@Whiteviper23 Yeah that's what I think what the issue is. A 3/4" discrepancy is large enough to have that "slack" effect. I'm not sure if you're was caused by an accident like mine but if so, genetically our calf muscles are programmed to grow to their natural length but they're limited to bone length - shorter bone, more "slack" or muscle length reserve in that tissue and leverages will be biomechanically altered. This can lead to muscle imbalances among other issues. Do you manage well with a shoe lift or are you thinking about LL?
@@Cyborg4Life yeah that totally makes sense. I have no idea what caused mine. Just found out I had it at 30 years old. My main issue was my neck but the X-rays discovered the discrepancy. I just started wearing a shoe lift. I’m not sure what to think of it. Feels different definitely. Ideally I would like to have LL surgery. Do you think that could solve the slack issue?
I play football not professionally but i love that game soo much and i was thinking to gain 4-5 inches so will i be able to play it with my full strength after getting it done after proper rehab n all i am willing to give my 100% in recovery so will it be possible to play like before?
It's possible but this should be done among 2 surgeries
@@Cyborg4Life ok thanks a lot for clearing my doubt brother ❤ you just earned yourself a subscriber.
Thats is really amazing.. How many cm did you length.. And did you make then lengthing on tibia or femure
4cm tibia.
@@Cyborg4Life i wanna go for 4 cm tibia and 4 cm femur.. Do you recommend it.. Or breaking to bones make my legs too week and never as before
What do you think ALBIZZIA® AND GUICHET® NAIL clicking to lengthen in Europe vs Precise nail and electric device. , which one is better for recovery weight bearing and to get back to running lifting looking for 6 to 7.5cm etcALBIZZIA® AND GUICHET® NAIL in Europe vs Precise, which one is better for recovery weight bearing quicker. Which is best.
The Precice is more accurate from the surgeons I've talked to. The Stryde nail is better than most internal nails also for fast weight bearing and athletic recovery
How much time did it take for u to rebuild lost muscle?
About 6 months to get most of it back but really closer to 10-12 months to be at my best
Nice videos, you have helped me so much in my decision to get the procedure. I thought this would be so painful and archaic but thanks to your videos I see that this is very doable.
Quick question: how tall were you before and after?
That's cool to hear I'm glad the videos were helpful. So I was only about 5'7 prior and I'm just about 5'9 now.
@@Cyborg4Life so I am from west baltimore, not far from sinai hospital and looking to get this done with Dr. Conway...but I am a little confused as to the amount of height that can be gained in the femur, I always see 3 inches promoted but then hear people say they only recieved 2 inches...so my question is, will I gain 2 or 3 inches or does it depend on therapy?
@@Queennyla16 From my hometown that's awesome! So you technically should be able to get the full 8cm or 3 inches in height after the femoral lengthening however she will check your flexibility and as the lengthening begins, monitor your progress very closely over the 12 weeks or so. If you develop excessive tightness, she may recommend you slow or halt your distraction. I am planning to have Dr. Conway on for interview in next two weeks, I just need to prepare questions. She was my doctor and is very good
@@Cyborg4Life ok thanks, and thank you so much for all that your doing within the limb lengthening community
Once 4 inches is added (femur and tibia), will balance be affected? With daily, consistent rehab therapy and stretching can I return to 100% athleticism with no pain?
2 inches in both I assume. You'll have a pretty good chance but it will take time and things will be different. You'll most likely realize you'll train harder than before and that'll make up the difference
Which is more safer the Tibia or the Fumer lengthening surgery, especially for People who want to become strongmen Post the surgery?
Femur is usually safest
@@Cyborg4Life True and Logic
Have u ever regretted for what u did to ur legs?
At first, yeah because there was a challenging road to recovery that made me think if I could ever get back. But soon after I was very glad I got it done and never regretted it since I was able to get it all back
@@Cyborg4Life you dont look like the guy who regretted doing the surgery since youve created an entrie channel on it to let other people know on this topic and are being of huge help for people like me. I hope people who did the surgery feels better and not give up on rehab
@@sakshambishalgurung8350 Exactly it really is all about having the right mindset. Thanks!
I been told the femurs is painful than the tibia is that true ? Also they only allow me 4cm increase how much u gained for each segment? Thanks
I would say tibia could be more painful but it all depends on person and device used. If internals I think femurs aren't as bad. 4cm is going to be for one segment since it isn't going to max out the rod or tissues in femur. Tibia 4cm is harder like what I did
After 3 years of the Surgery would you become free and not visit any doctor as you were before the surgery?
Yes you'll be free sooner than that too
@@Cyborg4Life Thanks
Can you lift weights after recovering from an arm limb surgery?
I'd assume 1yr or so
Hi Cyborg4life, is your balance better now, than before surgery?
Yup
@@Cyborg4Life How long did it take you to get used to your new balance?
@@team3gaming749 about 5 months but to be pretty close to perfect...probably 10-12 months
Can People who had hgh therapy at Child hood be suitable for height lengthening surgery
Sure if they didnt' get enough height
@@Cyborg4Life Thanks
Do you get more girls?
Not the reason I did it for, but yes
@@Cyborg4Life Cause now you're more self-confident?
@@italianoetnico.calabreseve9262 Yes. That's the biggest benefit of the surgery...the feeling better about yourself. Everything else takes care of itself. Girls can get a vibe that you're secure and self-confident with yourself. I still have girls at the gym always eyeing me up.
Sir what bone did you lengthen and how many cm? Also please inform me about your age at the time of surgery? Thanks :)
Hi there I did tibia about 4cm and I was 23 when I did it
Hi cyborg,
I would like to know how many inches you did for a leg lengthening surgery.
How long did it take for you to be able to lift the same weight after having this surgery. For example you could do 300 dead lift 5 reps and to get to there, it took 1 year.
Did you even be able to lift heavier after having this surgery.
Thanks !
I did it for discrepancy but I got just about 4cm tibia. Patients for purely cosmetic reasons find that between 5-6.5cm recover very well to train intense again
How many inches can I add on in 1surgery
Some surgeons check their patients are allowed up to 8cm or 3 inches but it's a case by case basis
Will i be able to run after surgery being done?
I am athelete .
You can absolutely run after surgery if you get length within safety lengthening parameters. Also it won't be the same as before but once you adapt you will be able to adjust and run well. But if you are an elite collegiate athlete or professional you may want to consider waiting until you are done extremely high level competition as there can be a learning curve to your new height and biomechanics
@@Cyborg4Life so i won’t be able to get my athleticism back? Do they take out the metal after the procedure
@@joshuafrank9566 Yes they take it out. You can regain your athleticism it just takes time
510x10 on deadlift? I think that denies one of Newton’s laws of physics? Anyways, good job this is fye 🔥.
Hahaha thanks! I'm trying to get back to this but the pandemic threw off my gym game a bit. In due time...
What’s your height now?
Just about 5'9 in morning
@@Cyborg4Life “in morning”?
You don't need to answer but how tall are you
liam Walker About 5’9”
@@Cyborg4Lifecool dude . how long did it take you to build your body and is it hard to maintain it
@@NoRoom4u It took about 5 years but I been training for 13. This means I would build muscle, and cut fat for bodybuilding contests. But 5 to 6 straight years it's achievable. It's hard to maintain if I don't lift intense enough. I compete against high level professional natural bodybuilders so I literally trash my body every time I step foot into a gym but recover as best possible. I think it's a lot easier to maintain as I learn more about my body and the diet that works best
@@Cyborg4Life thank you for answering my question, this days everybody is too busy. Wish you happiness and success, good luck.
How tall are you
5'8.75 I just say 5'9 to round up and simplicity
Found it
I’m 19 at 5 11 and if I don’t grow to 6 foot by age 21 I’m getting this surgery lol
Than you are an absolute fool 😂😂
@@RahulYadav-gq3bp thanks very much dude 😂😂👌👌
@@novicelifts5197 yes I know
@@novicelifts5197 I wanna go from 180 cm - 188 cm
Did you grow? It can happen but it’s unlikely.
Damn bro. No homo but you're looking great haha
Haha thanks man 🦾💪💯
Bro can hit punching bag with full strength of you leg
If I wanted to yes
9:15, I don't think that style suits you man
You mean conventional deadlift? I can't sumo
@@Cyborg4Life Nono, I meant your facial hair hahaha. I think you forgot to shave off the part on your chin, wasn’t sure if that was intentional
@@elmomelmo3177 Oh lol yeah my barber said he likes it for me. Idk I've been rolling with it lately. It might go
"LL is cope, no one has ever recovered fully" 🤡😂