Right and the side effects that people say will happen years from now because of the surgery will probably be completely cured. Ai is always advancing and so is medicine.
Not in this case. I am in medicine and the risk is not worth the reward. I have been in orthopaedic surgeries. The potential complications are tremendous. A few are fat or pulmonary embolism, which can kill you, anesthetic risks, blood loss, bone infection which is catastrophic, nerve injury, chronic pain, joint contractures, osteopenia to name a few, not to mention long term comolications. As a surgeon, I wouldn't do it because it would cause much more harm than good.
@@pasoking248399.7% worldwide did this surgery and were 100% fine and lived a happy satisfying life, nobody complains about it nor had any complications mentioned, it's extremely safe and extremely rare to have complications with it, the only risk is pain that's all, even the guy in this video knows alot about it and said the same thing, have you even watched the video?
Im 6’4 I don’t blame people for wanting this. My brother has scoliosis and he got his height cut off at 5’10 due to surgery. The way people treat me vs him is night and day. This world is so cruel to short men it fucking sickens me. I hope there will be advancements to this procedure in the future.
Bro I’m 5’6. Been called short etc. Girls be saying right in front of me “I don’t like short guys” blah blah blah and ppl always clown my height fuck sake
Hello I just want to say I found your channel today and I think it’s really awesome people have your channel for information. I had my surgery 30 years ago because I was born with deformities that caused my growth bone to be broken when I was a baby. I would’ve had severe scoliosis without having this procedure done. I want to preface my comment by saying I have had several other surgeries, and other reasons that contribute to my current issues with Pain Management. I am 40 years old, married with 3 kids. One adult daughter who is 22, a seven-year-old daughter, and a 10-year-old stepson. I also want to say I do not regret having the surgery. And I am extremely grateful for the Shriners hospital, and all of the doctors and staff there because without them my life would’ve turned out completely different. But the long-term effects are something people need to think about. I was 10 years old when I had the surgery, and I had severe arthritis at the age of 19. The pain would wake me up in the middle of the night and I had no idea what was going on. I was taking so much ibuprofen my primary doctor told me I had to stop because I was ruining my liver. But it was prohibiting me from doing basic tasks everyone must do in their every day life. Typically when you are a Shriners patient you are discharged at the age of 18 if there’s nothing else that they can do for you. I located the best orthopedic surgeon in my area when he told me I had arthritis. Now I am 40 years old and I have severe nerve damage, that is unrepairable. And unfortunately I am in pain management so that I can do the bare minimum of every day life as a wife and mother. I most likely will be in a wheelchair within the next 10 years. Like I said I have other problems and surgeries that have contributed to this. But I do think people really need to understand what they are signing up for in their 20s, and how that will affect them in their 40s. I don’t remember all of the information from before my surgery, like I said I was 10 years old. But I do remember one doctor telling me that I would have arthritis when I was older. And as a 10-year-old, you think old like your grandma old. Not 19. I’ve only watched a few of your videos but I plan to watch all of them. Because I’m very interested in this. Especially the after affects. And please don’t take this comment as coming from malicious intent. I think what you were doing is amazing. But from what I can tell from the few videos I’ve watched and the comments it seems your surgery was around 9 years ago? Please correct me if I am wrong. Like I said I just found your channel. I just think that people need to realize 40 is not old. And it’s hard when you look normal but walking up the stairs literally feels like you’re climbing Mount Everest. And the stigma that goes along with Pain Management and maybe having to ride a scooter at the grocery store because you can’t walk. You’re labeled as a drug addict and lazy. And it’s heartbreaking because nothing could be further from the truth. All love to you and your subs 💜💜💜 I look toward to all of your videos
I completely empathize and agree with you! I'm so sorry you had to go through all of that and I wish it wasn't the case. The LL surgery can result in long term complications especially for you and me who had a deformity and discrepancy as there were years we were dealing with the pain and uneven leg lengths thus I will also probably end up with mild arthritis unless my supplementation helps prevent it. But for the majority of my content I tend to focus on cosmetic limb lengthening where patients don't have years of wear and tear prior to getting the surgery done and thus the joints aren't as likely to be affected long term should they have a great doctor and work hard at PT and avoid other complications. Essentially Cosmetic LL and Limb Length Discrepancy/Deformities are two different things. The latter is much more ruthless long term and I still worry about my long term health. But I think for the CLL group, they are much less likely to have long term complications besides maybe a slight reduction in max agility or speed if they don't work hard enough. I appreciate your support so much and I am glad to have you as part of the Cyborg family as I need more people like you for experiences. Thank you Jennifer and have a wonderful day! -Victor
Cyborg 4 Life Hi Victor! Thank you for responding. And that does make perfect sense. I didn’t realize there wasn’t a medical need for the surgery necessarily. I do think you said you had a length discrepancy maybe, but you usually discuss cosmetic reasons. I don’t think I knew that when I commented. And I don’t want you to think I was trying to be super critical. Because that literally is the exact opposite of my intent. I have seen comments of people saying they wanted the surgery just to be taller, and while I don’t judge what you do. Trust me if a facelift was in the budget I’d be getting it Done ☺️ I just want people to understand that when you’re young and you make a decision like that how it affects the rest of your life. I did not have a choice, and again I am so grateful for the surgery because mmy life would have been completely different. I lived a normal life as an adult. I would say about five years ago is when the pain started getting unbearable. But in my 20s I was a normal 20-year-old woman. Living her best life. I played sports in high school. And without the surgery I wouldn’t have been able to do any of that. Also now, they know a lot more about things you can do in your own life to help prevent some of the issues i have had. Please don’t quote me on this, but I believe I was one of the first 20 kids in the United States to have the surgery. I just remember there was like a film crew that followed me and another girl around the hospital because they were doing some type of documentary I think. My mom said she had to sign a release form. Again I don’t exactly remember what it was for but I know it was fairly new here in the states. And a lot of what you said is true especially about physical therapy. I preach that so much to anyone who has any type of orthopedic surgery. If you do not do your therapy, things are not going to go back to the way they were. I think your channel is an amazing place for people to come for information but also how to have a good outlook and positive thinking towards the surgery. The energy and vibe you give off is infectious and you seem to do very well for yourself. And you are very knowledgeable about the topic. Thank you for responding. And I appreciate your kind words. I look forward to enjoying your channel. 💜💜💜- Jen
@@LoveLunaFam Yup you said it! This surgery is no joke and you probably were on of the first to have it done and I was one of the first hundred to have the internal nail done...super cool! Yes, young kids I always tell to wait until they are well informed and prepared for such an arduous journey. I love your vibe as well and wish you all the best. Thanks Jen! You're awesome!!!
Girl: Why do you want to be taller, you just need confidence. Me: Ok, i'll take your advice. Wanna go out sometime with me? Girl: Ew, no. I don't date short guys.
This man was Tyler1 standing at only 4'8" before Surgery, After he's a 6"3 Chad Am I crazy. Can't be the only one who think this guy looks like a tall, bigger Tyler1
Haha I am 5ft '2inch in India and I am a teacher.. people still respect me because of my hard work.. but still the sad part is .. I loved a women and she rejected me because of height..
I had this surgery done almost 3 weeks ago. I had bone cancer, osteosarcoma and had an internal amputation which left my right leg to be 6 inches shorter than my left. Even going through chemotherapy and an amputation, this LLS has been the worst experience ever. The pain is agonizing. I wish I saw your videos before I got this because I probably wouldn’t have gotten the surgery. 😔
So sorry to hear all that. Apparently you must’ve had some sort of other preexisting condition no? I know for a fact with a good surgeon and no actual congenital or preexisting conditions you would not have had this all so perhaps you can clear that up for everyone
@@Cyborg4Life 2 years ago, I had an internal hemipelvectomy (amputation of my right pelvis) due to cancer and that left my leg shorter than my other leg. So now my femur bone is just floating since theres no prosthetic, this surgery is supposed to help me at least walk again with hopefully just a cain. I’m guessing that’s why I’m hurting more than the average person since I had an amputation. But it’s mostly my knee that hurts so bad, it just gets so stiff and sore.
Idk about doing this procedure myself. I’m 5’6” but all my life I’ve kept telling myself my height is not something I can change and just to accept it and make the most of it which I have been doing to the extent where I hardly think about my height. But now there’s this new tech that can completely change my world and I don’t know what to do now bc I used to think I can’t change my height. I don’t know if I should do it bc everyone in the comment section seems to want it but I have been content with being man of 5’6” height.
i'm 5'6 too and i live in sweden. Pretty tough being in one of the countries with the tallest people. My little brother is 187 cm too. Growing up i was always the short one and i'm thinking about this too now when i got the chance
@CL Wil what are you talking about ?! Be happy as you are , no way … oh yeah if you want to ROPE then fine ! Otherwise try to improve as much as possible and as much resources you have.. Surgeries is key 🔑 to improving your looks
If you have the money and you have a will, you'll tolerate the pain. Being tall is one of the best things. I'm myself 5'9 in balkan country and my life is not hard but boys/men 6'1ft or above are literally easy mode on life bro when it comes to respect and women.
Tbh height doesn't matter but if you feel like it does as in it really bothers YOU that much that you worry about what other people think, then go for it.
Thank you for this info, you have gotten a new sub, I hope a lot more people see your videos because they are very informative, and this was amazing information on the long term effects.
I’m 5’1 female, I know men tend to want to be taller and women shorter but I’ve been struggling so much with my height, it really does make me insecure. You feel more vulnerable, you get referred to as cute while tall woman are hot and powerful, you don’t get taken seriously. But I’m just scared that if I get this that when I’m older my bones will give out or they will be weaker and since I work out a lot and do kickboxing. I don’t want to be any weaker.
It won’t make you weaker. It can if you don’t rehab and if you were not healthy at the time you got the surgery. I’m 15 almost 16, male, 6ft. I feel very short, I do stay up at night feeling bad about my height. I can see where you’re coming from.
@@averyjudgementalsoldier8303 well I’ve been doing some research and the recommended inches is 2-3 while the max is 6 personally I would prefer 4-5, but it come with more risks and if the doctor is against it, I’ll get whatever they recommend.
@@xeii1r906 one of my close friend is a bone surgeon. I think he knows very well better than the potential patient do. Just FYI. The bone is not the issue for complications, the muscle, nerve, tendons, vessels are.
@@lebumjames1373 (is it because of muscle and movement problem?) (bone recovery is easy it depends on age I guess) any info you can tell me I'm 17 I don't want to be Walkless 20cm is my goal too
I'm EXACTLY 5'10. I would never get one of these surgeries as I am secure in my height, but its still fascinating to read the comments and watch videos like this. Some people say they wanna go from 5'8 to 6'2 with one of these surgeries but that just sounds like issues waiting to happen down the line because that's too many inches in my opinion. I see many videos of people claiming they are " back to normal " after a year or even a few months, but it never sounds believable to me, it always looks like they are only at 80-85% of the same athleticism they once had. I think if someone were to do 1-2 inches it might not be worth it, but the most I'd recommend (Im not a doctor obviously) would be 3 inches. At least that way you could still maintain some stability after slightly extending your tibia and femur in a symmetrical way. I can't see how someone would even wanna play sports on their new 4-6 + inch wobbly legs after growing more than 3 inches.
Bone heals perfectly well if no complications and done properly. But many patients aren't taking time to optimize their rehab and rebuilding back to or better than pre-operatively. Often times you need to maximize; flexibility, stability/balance (via adjusting to center of gravity and evening muscle imbalances), strength, endurance and coordination (dexterity). You do this and regardless of your biomechanical leverage changes you can get back to a very high level of functionality. Patients are now hitting backflips, dancing, jumping, sprinting and more after 2-3 inches. Problem is, most don't mind their nutrition enough to build the muscle and strength back to a high enough level to do so. Hope this clears things up based on what I see from speaking to hundreds of actual patients and surgeons
@@BeingJunaidAhmad 2 inches seems like a modest amount, probably the best amount if you were gonna actually go through with this surgery. And I don't know dude, talk to actual professionals and do your research, not to me.
everyone whos thinking about undergoing medical procedures to change part of your physical appearance that you are not happy with, please seek counseling. having surgery will not fix the problems in your life
My concerns would be with the entire skeletal system. change one aspect, it can effect alignment, torque, or range of motion to your hip to your spine, etc etc. not enough studies have been done in that regards
You're right. I plan to make a video on this soon on biomechanics but bilateral lengthening isn't as bad for low impact activities as a discrepancy is. High impact sports could be affected more
I don't want social validation. I am a confident person and I look straight on the eyes of taller people without any feeling in particular. However, I easily spot the difference of treatment from everyone, and the handicap that it produces with women is brutal. So, basically, it's worth it.
Ik ppl wanna gain height to gain attraction from girls and to not get bullied and whatnot. But I wanna get tall so i can compete in sports. The thing is no matter how much u prac u still cant beat taller kids.
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id argue wing span is more important than height in some sports.
Hey Victor, thanks for this! This video is very educational and informative! I look forward to seeing more of your videos! You just earned a new subscriber! I have been thinking of undergoing the limb lengthening procedure for quite some time, but I remain undecided as to who to choose in terms of specialist. Who performed your limb lengthening surgery?
Thanks I appreciate the support! So yeah I had Dr. Janet Conway at the international center for limb lengthening in Baltimore. However by checking out some of my past interviews with the surgeons you should be able to find a doctor that suits you based on location etc. I am still looking for more surgeons in Europe etc as time goes on.
I just turn 19 and I’m still 5”5 5”6 maybe shorter 😔 honestly Ik it’s wrong but the people that be bringing u down on a regular basis really hit even my parents look at me like it’s my fault I wish I was around at least 5”8 it really is tuff but I don’t have that type of money bro
I’m a model of 168 cm and I still married a short man that’s barely taller than me, he’s 170 cm. We’ve been married for years and I never cared for height. He has worked harder than other men and build a big career. There two people in the world that have my husbands knowledge. If he’d Ben tall maybe he would have been more lazy. It’s only now that he can easily afford the surgery he thought he wanted years ago that it came up again. But honestly when a man can easily afford this kind of surgery than he’s wealthy enough so that it doesn’t matter. And in my husbands home country people are generally much shorter . In Guatemala a 170 cm man is tall and most girls are under 160cm . They are lovely, pretty women that live to date and marry western men. I just wanted to tell you that because I know my husband had hard times as a short man when he was younger. But now at 38 with a wife almost a decade younger and a wonderful daughter and career he does not care.
@@MileinaJuarez I love it! This is an amazing example of the power of mindset and not letting anything hold you back. I remember something similar...a teacher of mine told me I could never be an athlete like a football player or any sports because I was too small. 10 years later I was #2 at the natural bodybuilding world championships. Your husband seems to be content with himself and I wish you all the best of times
I was wondering what the chances of complications are if you were to do everything right. Short term and long term. Like if you only did 5cm femurs with strydes, with a top doctor, followed PT correctly, correct diet, correct rehab and everything. What are the the chances you could still get complications? Also, I was wondering if you could make a video about what to do when you might get a complication, such as an infection.
I could speculate as a definite answer is always hard to say but yes I think revisiting the complications in a new video is a good idea especially using your scenario of following everything by doctors orders and having a textbook lengthening. I will start brainstorming for this important topic thanks!
Im 6'3" and was a total incel until I finally stopped being a DYEL and started hitting weights at the gym. Hight is the least of your problems if your a male with a sub 2 pl8 bench
Osteoarthritis in the joints is caused by either muscle imbalances or trauma that will lead to the degradation of the cartilage of the bone and the bone itself if the imbalance is not corrected over time. If the biomechanics of the knee are off post-op, it could potentially lead to problems down the line because as we know it, the knee bone is connected to the leg bone, etc... Some people suffer from osteoarthritis in their knees even though they've never had LL surgery merely because of imbalances that weren't addressed during their active years. If the tires on your car have an odd wearing pattern, you don't just change the tires because that's only the symptom. You first get an alignment and after, you cange your tires. I believe this is the grey area that no one can answer short term.
Question: Do our muscles, joints, nerves really adapt to the increased length permanently? Or is increasing flexibility and attending PT a temporary solution for our bodies to cope with the increased height? So what I’m trying to say is do post limb lengthening patients have to pressure themselves into a lifelong commitment of stretches and PT here and there even if it’s just a few minutes a week to prevent issues with muscles, joints, tendons, etc? Or can they just safely forget about all the stretches, exercises someday a few years after their surgery, if they wanted to, without the worry of the possible complications I mentioned related to the surgery they had years earlier?
If I don't stretch for say 2 or 3 weeks I'll get a bit stiff but not like it prevents me from walking and doesn't hurt just not as loose as if I stretch regularly meaning like 20-30 sec 2-3 x a week
I’m 5’5, I would kill to be 5’8. Throughout my military career especially when I got out into a leadership position, being a shorter guy had its hurdles especially when dealing with much taller bigger leaders who’d I butt heads with. Ultimately it’s not just a mindset thing because society literally looks down upon you both literally and figuratively. Regardless I carried myself like it didn’t matter and earned respect through my actions not my words. With that being said, if this becomes more mainstream, affordable and safer, I might consider this one day.
I had to have limb lengthening surgery not for vanity but because one of my legs was significantly shorter than the other. I had to have all three bones lengthened. Since the surgery my bones were brittle and I broke my femur twice. Because of this I now have osteoarthritis which just continues to get worse. This may have happened just from the original surgery too. If you lengthen all the bones in your leg you also have a possibility of developing hip dysplasia which I also now have. The dysplasia also causes pain. There are ways to fix that but it means more surgery. Which will likely cause more arthritis. Please if you're going into this for a little height I'm not judging but please consider the pain that it may cause you as you age.
The only thing that worries me is that I will lose my ability to run at my current pace permanently and also I read inserting rods into your bones got a higher rate of infection which can lead to amputation.
That's a great question. And the answer is it depends. Getting more length than your muscle flexibility can handle could affect things. Depending on the length you get, the new biomechanics you'll have after LL could alter your center of gravity etc. But with all that said, I believe with the right amount of rigorous physiotherapy and strategic rebuilding plan once you're healed you could "adjust" to these changes with enough practice although kids who grow tall naturally have more time to gradually adjust to these changes. So, yes I believe you could run at the same speed you do now once you're able to adapt to the mentioned changes. When that'll happen I can't say, it'll depend on the person. But I can say the internal rods have a waaaaayy lower chance of infection than the external devices do especially with qualified LL doctor.
@@Cyborg4Life plz try to answer my question.... Wouldnt they remove that rod inserted into bone a few months ago after being artificially grown to a certain height???..... Or they leave that rod inside our bone till death..😓😓😓... Or will they put patients on bed for another 9 months .... Its very awkward to waste nearly 2 years for 3inches tall...and nothing to say about money...that's like hell😬😬😠😠... Only femur being long while ur hands and tibia being short🤣🤣🤣🤣....and can a artificially remade femur balance our whole body mass???......lots of useless pain😁😁... Just put insolers and don't worry about ur height...I'm 5'7 wearing insolers make me 5'10...and that's enough for me though😂😂😂. ..and my age is 18 but few people are saying that u can add 3inches more even after crossing 22... Is that true??
Kindly comment on this. The main matter of concern would be, whether or not, the possibility of a potentially weaker limb, again, only if it is a possibility. That is to ascertain, whether the leg, for example, can bear the load of jogging or running, the arm can withstand the load of a barbell or dumbbell. Whether the place where calcification has taken place, is as strong as it was before and without being a joint in the bone. The place where calcification occurred if as strong as the rest of the bone structure then it is all ok and rest of the issues are temporary and minor ones.
Hey Victor I just checked out your video and am very interested in undergoing this surgery. Will it be possible for me to go from being 5'10" to 6'4" tall? How long will it take me to reach that height? Please let me know bro. BTW, you look FANTASTIC.
@@high.vibrational.collective To be honest, it's my insecurity. Why I don't want a massive height boost is that it'll mess up my proportions. Imagine if I used it to be 6'4, my arms and torso would be too small.
Same here, I once dated a pretty girl but she said I'm too short for her to continue dating, I've been feeling extremely insecure about my height ever since. I'm 5'10
Does the muscles stretch out permanently with physiotherapy after the surgery or it remains tense for the rest of your life and you have to keep stretching them to live normally?
Hey Cyborg, so I have done the lengthening surgery. My muscle is stiffened and currently walking like a penguin without crutches. When does a person start walking normal again? What exercises do recommend to help a person walk normal again? Had PT during lengthening but went home so looking for PT at home.
Hi there. Quick question from a 5'3 guy: let's say after 2-3 years after you get the surgery will you be able to do the same things you did before the surgery (running, jumping, etc)? Is there a chance that you will not look proportional? Also, a personal question: do you regret doing the surgery?
I’ll be amazed if you people are totally fine at age 60, 70, 80. There’s basically no research into how you will age. The limited research already shows osteoarthritis and knee pain after 15-30 years, and those are on minor surgeries. The 6+ inches that they are doing nowadays is recent. They don’t know the long term complications. I know this guy got it for a discrepancy where he was at more risk for pain without it. That is an exception. This surgery should not be done for cosmetic reasons in my opinion. We are already going to get disabled as we age. It’s common for elderly people to have joint pain, arthritis. This surgery would at the very least increase the risk of getting that. But it’s possible it could make it much more severe and happen at a much younger age. This guy is knowledgeable but the reality is there is very little research, and NO research on the extreme cosmetic procedures that people have started doing recently. I read a longitudinal study on people who got it in the early 90s and were followed up on recently. The study was small but it absolutely found increased risk of arthritis among other conditions. Arthritis, knee pain, hip pain are miserable, awful conditions. You do not want to live with chronic pain. We are supposed to take care of our bodies so that as we age, we can be in less pain. Not more. You have one life, one body. You are lovable at any height. You are going to be dead one day like everyone else. No one lays on their death bed and wishes they spent $100K on a surgery that would’ve given them pain and potential disability. You are changing your body in a way that is unnecessary. Do not get this surgery unless you have a condition that makes it a medical treatment. At least spend some time volunteering with disabled people who have chronic pain. I think if you volunteered for an organization where you worked with those people directly, you’d see life and health is so precious, and risking it for a few inches height seems egocentric, pointless, and self-injurious.
You can get 3 inches in the femur, 2 inches in the tibia. 5 inches in total, though some sources say you can get 6 inches, but most say 5. He was 5’7, now he’s 5’9.
I can't say if any pain would be permanent since you'll probably heal and with good rehab shouldn't have lingering effects. I had the tibia done and although it was sensitive and a bit painful for 1-2 years, after that I didn't even notice it so I don't think so in my opinion
As I've seen it's mostly men who are insecure about height. Would you guys be surprised if I,a woman, am and have been insecure and hating my height my whole entire 19 year old life? Because I've been WANTING TO GET THAT SURGERY FOR YEARS! I've been reading and researching for months. I really do hope I get to be my desired height🥺
woman have no say between guys wanting a leg lengthening. Plenty of women are 5’2 5’3 or even less. Unless you are trying to be some dominant actor or are a short person, I see no reason for this procedure in women. Sorry but this is facts here. Guys have this expectation of them that women do not have. Women are grown up from start to finish getting compliments left and right meanwhile men never see any of that unless we work until our hands and body fall apart to actually mean something to somebody.
It also depends how short you are but I see PLENTY of women 5’3 or 5’2 or even shorter… I however legitimately hardly ever see short guys this height or even guys 5’6 it’s rare as hell.. god made women naturally shorter and weaker and as for guys when it happens to them it sucks I couldn’t even imagine it. I’m 5’11 and I want to be taller lmao but I’m not gonna be or risk it for some expensive surgery and women shouldn’t even have this worry, literally at all.
@@ty8473 We don’t get respect and you know this. You can admit that short men aren’t treated with respect and treated as a joke but somehow women don’t have the same problem? Being short comes with so many dangers you as a male won’t even think twice about. You sound like an idiot
I'm already marriage, so I don't want to do the procedure to get women, but height influence in men lives goes far beyond get women, it is about respect, confidence, work oportunities,.... I think this surgery is the most important thing a short men can do in live, and it is a goal worth pursuing.
My worry is ultimately bones are broken. I've never broken a bone before (had a hairline fracture in my nose. Long story) and worried about what I can't do after. Can I do leg presses at the gym? Kickboxing? What kinda stress can the pins take?
Yeah breaking the legs is a scary thing but a necessary evil to get the process lol. Yeah you can do all activities after bone is healed. It's not recommended to do any super heavy lifting with even the stryde nail. Wait till bone is hard from consolidation phase
@@Cyborg4Life So would I be able to do heavy lifting after a few years? I'm 5'8 maybe 5'9. I've thought about doing this. I'm not exactly a power lifter. But I wouldn't want to sacrifice fitness for height. I've managed to do 200lbs (light, I know) on a leg press for several reps. I also occasionally do kickboxing. I could give it up for a year or two. The deal breaker is giving it up forever. I hope you don't mind me asking. I just gain weight INSANELY easy. I hate being short but I HATE being fat even more. Thanks and you're videos are awesome
@@RomanDavidDeSilva Oh no you would be able to get back to doing it within 2 years for sure. You would probably want to be a tad conservative to ensure a full recovery but it would be possible
I'd wait for a pill or something to make the bones to grow. No way would i break my bones. As you age, it's common for bones to deteriorate on their own. With previously broken bones, I'd imagine that'll only make things worse.
You think pills contain some super gentle fairy dust or smth?? They can cause a plethora of issues. Liver and kidney failure are just the tip of the iceberg
What about using steroids,igf-1 des, bpc 157,tb4,tb500,red light therapy, hyperbaric oxygen therapy in this surgery you mean your healing rate will be 50% faster right??.
Would 4 cm of LL in the femur be relatively quick and low risk compared to more standard, longer, increments? I am a younger guy and I am wondering about how long the entire process from day 1, to walking, would be if I had 4cm (1.5 in) in the femur.
Absolutely yes. In fact you might only be out for about 6weeks and then heal for 6 weeks so could be walking within 3 months but 1.5 inches taller. I had a similar length done via LL of my tibia
@@Cyborg4Life Is this the time taken for full recovery directly proportional and scale linearly to increase in length? I mean, if 1.5inches takes 3 months, will 3inches take 6 months and 4.5 inches take 9 months or even worse 2 surgeries and 1.5 years? Please reply.
@@Cyborg4Life thank you. I am aiming for 4-5 inches so that's going to be 2 surgeries over 2 years right? First year 6 months for one surgery (meaning up to stydre removal). Then the next year again another 6 months. Also do I need to go for arm lengthening if I go for 4-5 in (10-12.5cm) of leg lengthening to maintain proportions?. Sorry if I am asking too much, I am new to this and still learning, will check out your body proportions video as well.
@@therealb888 You might not need to go for arm lengthening and it would depend more on how you look post-leg lengthening. The leg to body ratio will help determine. Yeah those time frames seem right for surgeries if you do them back to back like that
Pretty interesting! I agree that having the right perspective is very important. I'm interested to know, though, do your legs ache when the weather changes?
Victor do you know any cases about the patient who did this surgery 30~40years ago? I'm worried about the health problem when i become older like 60 or 70years old
Hi, you are doing great job making these videos. I wanna ask you that after surgery in both the limbs for height increasing, How much it take for us to walk ?
If you do one set of bones it will take about 5 months or so to walk. But it could take a bit longer for some people or possibly less. If you get the other bone segment done then just add that in about 1 year later so after everything about 1.5yrs
Cyborg 4 Life What about if we went for both limbs at the same time, will it be more harder to walk initially or will take more time as compared to surgeries done one by one
@@prateeksharma291 Probably yes because the stiff muscles would prevent you from reaching max height fastest. You will walk sooner but you may not reach max height you could if doing both individually
Cyborg 4 Life okay, so can you tell me the best procedure possible for me as i am only 5’3 and willing to add 3-4 inches . Please can you tell me the best procedure. Thanks 😊
I was born with limb length deficiency (by 5cm) and I have had operations on my ankle coz I have never walked flat on my foot I was also in a splint for 3 years and had one operation on my knee because I never had a ligament and I just had a operation where they cut my bone in half and they put a metal rod down my bone from my hip to knee (they had to go from my hip because my bone was to narrow) the operation I just had was in February i spent 3 months leg thing it and now i was waiting for my bone to grow back it’s been 5 months in total and my bone hast grown I took a load of vitamin c and all that and calcium im still on crutches and have to be in a wheel chair for school I recently went to the doctors (I have been going every week since my operation wich was almost 6 months ago) and they told me I have to have a bone graft now so there taking the bone of my hip to put in my leg I have lost some nerves in my leg and have to do 3 physio sessions with 7 exercises in I can’t wait bare on my leg atm until my bone has formed so I havnt walked for almost 6 months so yeah… oh and my operation my for lengthening was on my femur Nice video!! Edit: I’ve subscribe and your videos really help me cope
I’m 5’1, 20 years old. And it’s so god damn rough. I can’t go a day without being mistaken as a kid. Even at jobs. I want this so badly- but surgery cost aside, I have a heart problem which causes me to pass out almost every time I stand up. So I literally will not be able to get this and it’s so frustrating.
@@OnlyOneHunnids I’ve been told a couple time to use platform boots, my style is kind of on the alternative side so some friends of mine said it wouldn’t look too weird so I might try that out.
I am 5"0 and living in asia Trust me it is not working, woman always want taller boy.. the taller the better.. so short guy wont get any priority even u are good, nice and etc
@@hendrakho1710 yeah same here. I feel your struggle. I’m gay, and guys feel the same way. If you’re short not a lot of people are into that. However I got lucky, I’m in a relationship with someone who doesn’t use my height against me. I wish you luck friend
Can you run faster and have quicker bidirectional turns (agility)? I don't want a surgery that lowers my chances of running away from danger to take care of my family...
I see. Well assuming you don't mean hunting and just running away from physical harm - then the surgery will impact your physicality for about 16 months. At around 24 months if you get it done with a top surgeon you'll recover very well
I'm 5'4 and a martial artist. I have slightly longer legs and a short torso as well as short arms...would you recommend that I lengthen my thighs and shins by 2.5 inches each to achieve 5 inches more height? And then I was thinking of using LON method on my arms to slightly balance them with my new longer legs...is LON safe to use on biceps and forearms? Thank you for all your videos and information Cyborg, it helps a lot
@@liv4you I think he did in a previous video I commented on, it's a long road of recovery for martial artists after limb lengthening but it's possible. You can use a combination of methods to save money, but I would follow Cyborg's advice.
It's a reason why you're built the way you are...it's part of a natural design for you. I'm 6'2" but have average size limbs because I have dense muscle. I'm naturally thick. I have a sturdy frame. I'm primarily built for endurance
My concern for you is that I highly doubt you will ever be the same in martial arts. I'm also a competitive athlete (weightlifting) at a high-level, I'm not even considering this process, but if I had any desire to do it, I still would choose not to because the likelihood of you ever performing the same is low. Either way, I wish you all the best brother.
@@sandrost4243 I don't need to be the best martial artist in the world or be breaking concrete blocks with my bare hands and legs but I would be happy if I could train in taekwondo and boxing again with light striking at the very least. I don't even have the money to do it currently so it's pointless to think about, I'm enhancing myself in every way I can besides my height. It's something superficial at the end of the day, but we value it as humans
I almost laughed when you mentioned arthritis (in a not funny way) bc I've had issues with my knees since probably my late teens - early 20s. I have mild knock knees and started looking into osteotomy to prevent arthritis from developing/avoiding knee replacement as long as possible. From what I can tell, arthritis will likely happen to me if I leave my knees as they are, so ig that possible complication from LLS doesn't scare me as much as it should. I want to look into it more but so far, if I had the money, I'd still say for me pros outweigh the cons.
2:33 yeah, I'd wish all the guys that are interested in this had a strong mindset. If they had they wouldn't do this and would learn to appreciate what they've got, that's the hardest lesson of all in life and many people never learn that. I'm 17yo and I'm 6ft tall and yeah I'd like to experience how it would be to be taller I guess and if I continue growing that would be cool but I don't really need to be taller, and even if I was shorter I wouldn't ever go through a procedure like this to get any higher than I was supposed to be. And I'm saying that as if I had stopped growing because I am 6ft ever since 16yo and I'm almost 18 now. I understand all the reasons why some guys would want this but comments saying like "I'd do anything to be 6ft" or "I'd do anything to be taller" are sickening to me, society has really failed you brothers if height is the only thing that matters to you. Be honest to yourselves and don't put yourself down just because of something that is genetically determined, work on things that you're determining, become the best version of yourself you can be without any shortcuts and then ask yourself do you really need this, would girls or people really appreciate you more if you were taller, do you yourself appreciate only tall people?
Thanks for sharing. Many have tried that but based on my conversations many have said that society has several levels of height discrimination that can't be overcome but I understand what you're saying
Hey cyborg 4 life . First of all i want to thank you for the afforts you make for us . I have a question about long term effects of this surgery Once i fully recover from the surgery does it mean i get back to my pre surgery condition ? Or i will still have limitations like facing complications or pains in the old age like in 60s or 70s
Unless you have uneven limbs you should never get this surgery. For a couple reasons which I’ll explain. 1. Women won’t find you more attractive. Yes women find tall men more attractive, but only if they are naturally tall. You can’t hide the surgery, she’s gonna find out and I guarantee she’ll find it super unattractive that you got this surgery. 2. You will never reach your full athletic potential after getting this surgery, the damage your legs suffer because of it will show at some point. 3. Old age will not be pleasant. Old injures plague people in their golden years, and this will most definitely render you basically immobile around 70. 4. For the amount of money you would spend on this Frankenstein surgery, you could invest in a down payment in a house, a freaking house! 5. Your results are a gamble. There is no guarantee of success and even if it goes as planned, you will still have to deal with the things I listed above. Just don’t do it.
@@Cyborg4Life sorry but without deta showing me a high % of what happened to people in their old age after the surgery, it legit just feels like you're setting up dudes into a wheelchair You have invested interest here and it makes me feel a bit cynical about trusting you which I genuinely want to!
What are you talking about lol? I’m not telling anyone to do the surgery I could care less I just want them to have credible information which this is what the world class surgeons have said I’m just reiterating. Believe what you want but patients get this done regardless I’m just making sure they pick good surgeons and do their PT for best possible outcome.
I didn’t like my height as a girl, and something happened hurt me so bad, it was when I saw my boyfriend of 9 years, asking girl on social media what’s your height, that he likes tall girls and cheated on me with her cause she was 170cm when I’m 164cm. I’m not going back to him but this hurt me a lot and I’m saving for this surgery.
Hey you dont need to do the surgery! 164cm is a great height! Im not saying this to make you happy. Your ex is stupid and dumb. Tbh, Im surprised you are insecure about your height. 164CM for girls is not short at all.
What ablut arthritis? This is not a direct correlation of the lengthening, rather as a result from the break. Normally with severe injuries, arthritis is often developed afterward.
What I still don't understand is do I have to spend the rest of my life streching my leg muscles after the surgery so I don't ache? Do the muscles make new cells while the leg bones are being lengthened during surgery or do they just adapt to the new length? I just want to know what would happen if I don't strech at all or do any physical activity (I mean after the 2 year recovery period), will I feel pain from basically doing nothing? Thanks for your content.
No not necessarily. I think it's for people who just are very muscular you should stretch if you train a lot. But if you don't do any physical activity prepping with some stretching is a good idea but not a requirement and you will be fine to live normal life without it. I just do it because I'm an athlete who does have muscle mass on legs and it can cause tightness if I don't. Any athlete should stretch I don't know any that doesn't lol. The muscles will undergo histogenesis and adapt to new length thus allowing for increased ROM within 2-3 yrs. Muscle takes time unlike bone.
His costs were covered because he was insured, he had a temporary disability (aka leg discrepancy) because of an accident that caused one of his legs to grow and the other one to stunt, so he fixed it, Although I don’t know his height
Hello Victor, I would like to ask regarding muscle stiffness, is it something that will never go away? I understand that it gets better overtime, but it isn't the same or atleast close to pre-op? Does that mean you'll need to stay stretching forever even if you stretch less now? I was wondering because doesn't muscle that get stretched anyways to tear regenerate new muscle fibers to adapt/ How is this different from when you're bodybuilding to gain muscle mass? It makes me think also about people who would lengthen to 3 inches+, do they stretch more often than someone who did just 2 inches like you? I'm asking because I plan to do this in the future and lengthen atleast 6cm or 7.5cm on femurs as I am 168cm/5'6 right now, and would like to atleast be in the range of 5'8 or 5'9.
Fantastic question and my answer is it depends. If you lengthen, regain your full ROM flexibility and don't build much more muscle mass than you have at that point then no you won't need to keep stretching forever. But if you're like me and you do continue to try to get bigger and stronger then yes you would or you will lose some ROM. It's just like it is for other muscle builders but more if you have done LL. Even though fiber-splitting hyperplasia takes place during ample lengthening, the new muscle will eventually undergo hypertrophy and grow bigger to the point it causes more tension by default so it would need to be stretched some too but if you just lengthen and stretch till you get back to old ROM then don't build significant muscle you'll be fine
@@Cyborg4Life so what if you want to maintain your physique after getting lean without trying to put any muscles. do you still have to stretch forever?
@@averyjudgementalsoldier8303 you might grow still most men stop growing at 18 so if your still that height at 18 then you most likely stopped growing but the only way to know is to get a growth plate X-ray to see if they are fused
@@averyjudgementalsoldier8303 i know but the risk of my legs breaking at a high fall or running teough the forest let alone lifting weights dingles back my head
It’s sad how distorted society has become that people are willing to destroy their health to fit in. Idc what anyone says, this surgery 100% destroys your longevity.
@@Cyborg4Life don’t need long term data to make a common sense extrapolation based on observed bone embrittlement in the elderly. Severing bones and splicing them with metal rods will 100% have negative consequences as the bone density and structural integrity degrades with age. It’s literally common sense. And to answer your question I would never get a surgery like this for vanity, this video just randomly popped into my recommended.
Gotcha well yeah it’s not for everyone. And all bones in people who didn’t even have surgery done has degradation due to old age. Bone is the only tissue that heals without scar tissue. It remodels perfectly if raw materials are there. The decline happens in some individuals who don’t mind nutrition etc. in fact hypertrophic remodeling is common at the site of the osteotomy as in my and other patient cases so if bone is the argument than it might actually be stronger due to the robustness of the callus. If you are concerned about joint stress due to skewed levers and moment arms around fulcrums after extreme lengthening well then I’d have to say we need data but otherwise this surgery, again if done properly, is very straightforward and not harmful to the bone.
I've just discovered that this surgery is available and have watched a number of your videos...you are great! Is is possible to have some direct communication with you through email?
I don’t blame anyone who get this. If you don’t like something about yourself just change it. I’d rather you be happy than insecure.
Right and the side effects that people say will happen years from now because of the surgery will probably be completely cured. Ai is always advancing and so is medicine.
Big pharma is a retarded cult. Scammy corrupt bullshit industry.@@cryptojonny6837
Not in this case. I am in medicine and the risk is not worth the reward. I have been in orthopaedic surgeries. The potential complications are tremendous. A few are fat or pulmonary embolism, which can kill you, anesthetic risks, blood loss, bone infection which is catastrophic, nerve injury, chronic pain, joint contractures, osteopenia to name a few, not to mention long term comolications. As a surgeon, I wouldn't do it because it would cause much more harm than good.
@@pasoking248399.7% worldwide did this surgery and were 100% fine and lived a happy satisfying life, nobody complains about it nor had any complications mentioned, it's extremely safe and extremely rare to have complications with it, the only risk is pain that's all, even the guy in this video knows alot about it and said the same thing, have you even watched the video?
Short men don't suffer from height insecurity, they suffer from height prejudice.
Im 6’4 I don’t blame people for wanting this. My brother has scoliosis and he got his height cut off at 5’10 due to surgery. The way people treat me vs him is night and day. This world is so cruel to short men it fucking sickens me. I hope there will be advancements to this procedure in the future.
Bro I’m 5’6. Been called short etc. Girls be saying right in front of me “I don’t like short guys” blah blah blah and ppl always clown my height fuck sake
@@rosantamang2537 i understand bro
weird how people are mean to your brother even though he is taller than the average american male....
@@Dah42 5’10 is seen as not two in US you have to be at least 6’0
5’10 isn’t short lol. But yeah, people who are taller generally get treated better and get treated with more respect
Hello I just want to say I found your channel today and I think it’s really awesome people have your channel for information. I had my surgery 30 years ago because I was born with deformities that caused my growth bone to be broken when I was a baby. I would’ve had severe scoliosis without having this procedure done. I want to preface my comment by saying I have had several other surgeries, and other reasons that contribute to my current issues with Pain Management. I am 40 years old, married with 3 kids. One adult daughter who is 22, a seven-year-old daughter, and a 10-year-old stepson. I also want to say I do not regret having the surgery. And I am extremely grateful for the Shriners hospital, and all of the doctors and staff there because without them my life would’ve turned out completely different. But the long-term effects are something people need to think about. I was 10 years old when I had the surgery, and I had severe arthritis at the age of 19. The pain would wake me up in the middle of the night and I had no idea what was going on. I was taking so much ibuprofen my primary doctor told me I had to stop because I was ruining my liver. But it was prohibiting me from doing basic tasks everyone must do in their every day life. Typically when you are a Shriners patient you are discharged at the age of 18 if there’s nothing else that they can do for you. I located the best orthopedic surgeon in my area when he told me I had arthritis. Now I am 40 years old and I have severe nerve damage, that is unrepairable. And unfortunately I am in pain management so that I can do the bare minimum of every day life as a wife and mother. I most likely will be in a wheelchair within the next 10 years. Like I said I have other problems and surgeries that have contributed to this. But I do think people really need to understand what they are signing up for in their 20s, and how that will affect them in their 40s. I don’t remember all of the information from before my surgery, like I said I was 10 years old. But I do remember one doctor telling me that I would have arthritis when I was older. And as a 10-year-old, you think old like your grandma old. Not 19. I’ve only watched a few of your videos but I plan to watch all of them. Because I’m very interested in this. Especially the after affects. And please don’t take this comment as coming from malicious intent. I think what you were doing is amazing. But from what I can tell from the few videos I’ve watched and the comments it seems your surgery was around 9 years ago? Please correct me if I am wrong. Like I said I just found your channel. I just think that people need to realize 40 is not old. And it’s hard when you look normal but walking up the stairs literally feels like you’re climbing Mount Everest. And the stigma that goes along with Pain Management and maybe having to ride a scooter at the grocery store because you can’t walk. You’re labeled as a drug addict and lazy. And it’s heartbreaking because nothing could be further from the truth. All love to you and your subs 💜💜💜 I look toward to all of your videos
I completely empathize and agree with you! I'm so sorry you had to go through all of that and I wish it wasn't the case. The LL surgery can result in long term complications especially for you and me who had a deformity and discrepancy as there were years we were dealing with the pain and uneven leg lengths thus I will also probably end up with mild arthritis unless my supplementation helps prevent it.
But for the majority of my content I tend to focus on cosmetic limb lengthening where patients don't have years of wear and tear prior to getting the surgery done and thus the joints aren't as likely to be affected long term should they have a great doctor and work hard at PT and avoid other complications.
Essentially Cosmetic LL and Limb Length Discrepancy/Deformities are two different things. The latter is much more ruthless long term and I still worry about my long term health. But I think for the CLL group, they are much less likely to have long term complications besides maybe a slight reduction in max agility or speed if they don't work hard enough.
I appreciate your support so much and I am glad to have you as part of the Cyborg family as I need more people like you for experiences.
Thank you Jennifer and have a wonderful day!
-Victor
Cyborg 4 Life Hi Victor! Thank you for responding. And that does make perfect sense. I didn’t realize there wasn’t a medical need for the surgery necessarily. I do think you said you had a length discrepancy maybe, but you usually discuss cosmetic reasons. I don’t think I knew that when I commented. And I don’t want you to think I was trying to be super critical. Because that literally is the exact opposite of my intent. I have seen comments of people saying they wanted the surgery just to be taller, and while I don’t judge what you do. Trust me if a facelift was in the budget I’d be getting it Done ☺️ I just want people to understand that when you’re young and you make a decision like that how it affects the rest of your life. I did not have a choice, and again I am so grateful for the surgery because mmy life would have been completely different. I lived a normal life as an adult. I would say about five years ago is when the pain started getting unbearable. But in my 20s I was a normal 20-year-old woman. Living her best life. I played sports in high school. And without the surgery I wouldn’t have been able to do any of that. Also now, they know a lot more about things you can do in your own life to help prevent some of the issues i have had. Please don’t quote me on this, but I believe I was one of the first 20 kids in the United States to have the surgery. I just remember there was like a film crew that followed me and another girl around the hospital because they were doing some type of documentary I think. My mom said she had to sign a release form. Again I don’t exactly remember what it was for but I know it was fairly new here in the states. And a lot of what you said is true especially about physical therapy. I preach that so much to anyone who has any type of orthopedic surgery. If you do not do your therapy, things are not going to go back to the way they were. I think your channel is an amazing place for people to come for information but also how to have a good outlook and positive thinking towards the surgery. The energy and vibe you give off is infectious and you seem to do very well for yourself. And you are very knowledgeable about the topic. Thank you for responding. And I appreciate your kind words. I look forward to enjoying your channel. 💜💜💜- Jen
Cyborg 4 Life i’m on your website now and just seeing you have a podcast, which is awesome because I listen to podcasts all day at work.
@@LoveLunaFam Yup you said it! This surgery is no joke and you probably were on of the first to have it done and I was one of the first hundred to have the internal nail done...super cool! Yes, young kids I always tell to wait until they are well informed and prepared for such an arduous journey. I love your vibe as well and wish you all the best. Thanks Jen! You're awesome!!!
@@LoveLunaFam Haha yeah I thought that would help with passing time along. I hope to do more in the future.
Girl: Why do you want to be taller, you just need confidence.
Me: Ok, i'll take your advice. Wanna go out sometime with me?
Girl: Ew, no. I don't date short guys.
story of my life haha
Tall girls have it worse. Can't even get a surgery to get smaller
Exactly this.
Short guys have big dick, pennis
Tall guys have small pennis, so I don't choose tall guys
@@pizzaparty-r1c don't worry guys I'm soon coming with invention to increase height actually. keep in touch
Thanks Victor! Really appreciate you doing a video on this!
You got it!
Cyborg 4 Life hi sir is there any way I can talk to u on the phone I got some questions sir.
@@SK-bi6xo send your info to cyborg4life.com/contact/
This guy's channel deserves way more views
This man was Tyler1 standing at only 4'8" before Surgery, After he's a 6"3 Chad
Am I crazy. Can't be the only one who think this guy looks like a tall, bigger Tyler1
I get that all the time lol
With more hair
I thought he was 5’6...?
@@averyjudgementalsoldier8303 who was 5’6?
@@tokyotanz7515 Tyler1.
Haha I am 5ft '2inch in India and I am a teacher.. people still respect me because of my hard work.. but still the sad part is .. I loved a women and she rejected me because of height..
I had this surgery done almost 3 weeks ago. I had bone cancer, osteosarcoma and had an internal amputation which left my right leg to be 6 inches shorter than my left. Even going through chemotherapy and an amputation, this LLS has been the worst experience ever. The pain is agonizing. I wish I saw your videos before I got this because I probably wouldn’t have gotten the surgery. 😔
So sorry to hear all that. Apparently you must’ve had some sort of other preexisting condition no? I know for a fact with a good surgeon and no actual congenital or preexisting conditions you would not have had this all so perhaps you can clear that up for everyone
@@Cyborg4Life 2 years ago, I had an internal hemipelvectomy (amputation of my right pelvis) due to cancer and that left my leg shorter than my other leg. So now my femur bone is just floating since theres no prosthetic, this surgery is supposed to help me at least walk again with hopefully just a cain. I’m guessing that’s why I’m hurting more than the average person since I had an amputation. But it’s mostly my knee that hurts so bad, it just gets so stiff and sore.
Well, but in your case is more than justified. I hope you get well
If it's alright to ask, who'd you have it with?
@@XxAdelaide1994xX my doctor? His name is Lee Leddy from Charleston, SC!
Idk about doing this procedure myself. I’m 5’6” but all my life I’ve kept telling myself my height is not something I can change and just to accept it and make the most of it which I have been doing to the extent where I hardly think about my height. But now there’s this new tech that can completely change my world and I don’t know what to do now bc I used to think I can’t change my height. I don’t know if I should do it bc everyone in the comment section seems to want it but I have been content with being man of 5’6” height.
i'm 5'6 too and i live in sweden. Pretty tough being in one of the countries with the tallest people. My little brother is 187 cm too. Growing up i was always the short one and i'm thinking about this too now when i got the chance
@CL Wil what are you talking about ?! Be happy as you are , no way … oh yeah if you want to ROPE then fine !
Otherwise try to improve as much as possible and as much resources you have..
Surgeries is key 🔑 to improving your looks
@CL Wil that’s your dream world , not mine
If you have the money and you have a will, you'll tolerate the pain. Being tall is one of the best things. I'm myself 5'9 in balkan country and my life is not hard but boys/men 6'1ft or above are literally easy mode on life bro when it comes to respect and women.
Tbh height doesn't matter but if you feel like it does as in it really bothers YOU that much that you worry about what other people think, then go for it.
Thank you for this info, you have gotten a new sub, I hope a lot more people see your videos because they are very informative, and this was amazing information on the long term effects.
Thanks I really appreciate that! Welcome to the C4L community
Hey thanks for the video man, I am writing an essay for my ethics paper and you took me to some good sources.
That's awesome super happy to hear that!
I’m 5’1 female, I know men tend to want to be taller and women shorter but I’ve been struggling so much with my height, it really does make me insecure. You feel more vulnerable, you get referred to as cute while tall woman are hot and powerful, you don’t get taken seriously. But I’m just scared that if I get this that when I’m older my bones will give out or they will be weaker and since I work out a lot and do kickboxing. I don’t want to be any weaker.
It won’t make you weaker. It can if you don’t rehab and if you were not healthy at the time you got the surgery. I’m 15 almost 16, male, 6ft. I feel very short, I do stay up at night feeling bad about my height. I can see where you’re coming from.
It would be a long time before you do kickboxing again, though...
@@averyjudgementalsoldier8303 really!? Good to know, thanks!
@@lexwale9098 how many inches are you planning to get?
@@averyjudgementalsoldier8303 well I’ve been doing some research and the recommended inches is 2-3 while the max is 6 personally I would prefer 4-5, but it come with more risks and if the doctor is against it, I’ll get whatever they recommend.
The only long term effect I’m looking forward to are more women. Lol
Lol that's a given!
More women, more money, more opportunity, more offspring, etc.
Then go ahead and do it lol. All the best in a wheelchair 20 years from now.
@@bongjai no who said that?! there is only 5% risks and plus many people need to do it.
@@xeii1r906 one of my close friend is a bone surgeon. I think he knows very well better than the potential patient do. Just FYI. The bone is not the issue for complications, the muscle, nerve, tendons, vessels are.
Being in pain for a year surely sucks but getting no puss for a lifetime is way worse.
😂😂uhmm
Oh my gosh😭
I just wanna be 5.7 and get a 5.4 girl, is that to much to ask?
How tall are you now?
@The Doctor 6 inches is the maximum safe height you can get. Anything over is approaching the danger zone.
@@lebumjames1373 I think he meant between 3 surgeries.
@@lebumjames1373 (is it because of muscle and movement problem?) (bone recovery is easy it depends on age I guess) any info you can tell me I'm 17 I don't want to be Walkless 20cm is my goal too
@@lebumjames1373
Do they actually control it?
I'm EXACTLY 5'10. I would never get one of these surgeries as I am secure in my height, but its still fascinating to read the comments and watch videos like this. Some people say they wanna go from 5'8 to 6'2 with one of these surgeries but that just sounds like issues waiting to happen down the line because that's too many inches in my opinion.
I see many videos of people claiming they are " back to normal " after a year or even a few months, but it never sounds believable to me, it always looks like they are only at 80-85% of the same athleticism they once had. I think if someone were to do 1-2 inches it might not be worth it, but the most I'd recommend (Im not a doctor obviously) would be 3 inches. At least that way you could still maintain some stability after slightly extending your tibia and femur in a symmetrical way. I can't see how someone would even wanna play sports on their new 4-6 + inch wobbly legs after growing more than 3 inches.
Bone heals perfectly well if no complications and done properly. But many patients aren't taking time to optimize their rehab and rebuilding back to or better than pre-operatively. Often times you need to maximize; flexibility, stability/balance (via adjusting to center of gravity and evening muscle imbalances), strength, endurance and coordination (dexterity). You do this and regardless of your biomechanical leverage changes you can get back to a very high level of functionality. Patients are now hitting backflips, dancing, jumping, sprinting and more after 2-3 inches. Problem is, most don't mind their nutrition enough to build the muscle and strength back to a high enough level to do so. Hope this clears things up based on what I see from speaking to hundreds of actual patients and surgeons
@@BeingJunaidAhmad 2 inches seems like a modest amount, probably the best amount if you were gonna actually go through with this surgery. And I don't know dude, talk to actual professionals and do your research, not to me.
I want to do it I am slightly above 5’7. I wanted to be 5’10.
@@gamegamer9523 5'7 Isn't even short. I'm 5'4 and I wish I was 5'7.
everyone whos thinking about undergoing medical procedures to change part of your physical appearance that you are not happy with, please seek counseling. having surgery will not fix the problems in your life
Thank you 🙂❤️
Right hahahaaha at least with protected sex you can’t still have pleasure lol 😂
My concerns would be with the entire skeletal system. change one aspect, it can effect alignment, torque, or range of motion to your hip to your spine, etc etc. not enough studies have been done in that regards
You're right. I plan to make a video on this soon on biomechanics but bilateral lengthening isn't as bad for low impact activities as a discrepancy is. High impact sports could be affected more
The only long term effect is low self esteem. You never get enough of social validation, you will always keep going.
I don't want social validation. I am a confident person and I look straight on the eyes of taller people without any feeling in particular. However, I easily spot the difference of treatment from everyone, and the handicap that it produces with women is brutal. So, basically, it's worth it.
@@jean-francoiskener6036what’s your b4 and after height?
Ik ppl wanna gain height to gain attraction from girls and to not get bullied and whatnot. But I wanna get tall so i can compete in sports. The thing is no matter how much u prac u still cant beat taller kids.
id argue wing span is more important than height in some sports.
Me too brother
Hey Victor, thanks for this! This video is very educational and informative! I look forward to seeing more of your videos! You just earned a new subscriber! I have been thinking of undergoing the limb lengthening procedure for quite some time, but I remain undecided as to who to choose in terms of specialist. Who performed your limb lengthening surgery?
Thanks I appreciate the support! So yeah I had Dr. Janet Conway at the international center for limb lengthening in Baltimore. However by checking out some of my past interviews with the surgeons you should be able to find a doctor that suits you based on location etc. I am still looking for more surgeons in Europe etc as time goes on.
@@Cyborg4Life do you know how much the surgery would cost ?
@@Cyborg4Life Who are some good surgeons in Europe?
@@Sara-vm8pp Dr. Thaller in Munich is great. Dr. Downey in Sevilla is also good.
@@Cyborg4Life How about NYC?
I'm 5'7 at 16 and I honestly see no reason to do this. I can stand on my money when I'm rich and I'll be pretty tall.
Lol yes but you're worth more than your money.
@@ichoosemysanity6467 exactly, so don’t sacrifice your health for stupid shit like height.
@@Amplifymagic I agree and 5'7 is average for 16 I was similar height back then.
I just turn 19 and I’m still 5”5 5”6 maybe shorter 😔 honestly Ik it’s wrong but the people that be bringing u down on a regular basis really hit even my parents look at me like it’s my fault I wish I was around at least 5”8 it really is tuff but I don’t have that type of money bro
I understand what you mean it is really tough but you gotta stay strong and keep hope alive as advancements might come out and could change everything
I’m a model of 168 cm and I still married a short man that’s barely taller than me, he’s 170 cm. We’ve been married for years and I never cared for height. He has worked harder than other men and build a big career. There two people in the world that have my husbands knowledge. If he’d Ben tall maybe he would have been more lazy. It’s only now that he can easily afford the surgery he thought he wanted years ago that it came up again. But honestly when a man can easily afford this kind of surgery than he’s wealthy enough so that it doesn’t matter.
And in my husbands home country people are generally much shorter . In Guatemala a 170 cm man is tall and most girls are under 160cm . They are lovely, pretty women that live to date and marry western men.
I just wanted to tell you that because I know my husband had hard times as a short man when he was younger. But now at 38 with a wife almost a decade younger and a wonderful daughter and career he does not care.
@@MileinaJuarez I love it! This is an amazing example of the power of mindset and not letting anything hold you back. I remember something similar...a teacher of mine told me I could never be an athlete like a football player or any sports because I was too small. 10 years later I was #2 at the natural bodybuilding world championships. Your husband seems to be content with himself and I wish you all the best of times
@@MileinaJuarez This really made my day, Thank you so much :)
I was exactly where you’re at 4 years ago
I was wondering what the chances of complications are if you were to do everything right. Short term and long term. Like if you only did 5cm femurs with strydes, with a top doctor, followed PT correctly, correct diet, correct rehab and everything. What are the the chances you could still get complications? Also, I was wondering if you could make a video about what to do when you might get a complication, such as an infection.
I could speculate as a definite answer is always hard to say but yes I think revisiting the complications in a new video is a good idea especially using your scenario of following everything by doctors orders and having a textbook lengthening. I will start brainstorming for this important topic thanks!
Thank you for all the info bro. Be healthy
I'm 5'9 and 15 and my brother just turned 14 last month and he's almost 5'10
Wow you guys are growing fast!
You might be 5’11/6ft/6’1 to 6’4. Someone told me they were 5’8 at 16, when they were done growing they were 6’3.
@@averyjudgementalsoldier8303 Thanks bro
@@Astro1563 you’re welcome. I’m 6ft tall at 15, almost 16.
@@averyjudgementalsoldier8303 Wow, that’s very tall for your age.
Im 6'3" and was a total incel until I finally stopped being a DYEL and started hitting weights at the gym. Hight is the least of your problems if your a male with a sub 2 pl8 bench
bad bait
I’m 5’7” and looking forward to this treatment. I was supposed to be 5’10” so that is my goal
Similar situation, I am 5’9 1/2 and want to lengthen 7 cm to be the height I feel I should have been, which is 6’0 1/4.
Nice man my doctor says depression, anxiety and lack of exercise and sun led me not to grow to my full potential. I hope you get your dream
5 foot 7 too. I want to be 180cm (5 foot 11). I think thats perfect height for where I live
Osteoarthritis in the joints is caused by either muscle imbalances or trauma that will lead to the degradation of the cartilage of the bone and the bone itself if the imbalance is not corrected over time. If the biomechanics of the knee are off post-op, it could potentially lead to problems down the line because as we know it, the knee bone is connected to the leg bone, etc... Some people suffer from osteoarthritis in their knees even though they've never had LL surgery merely because of imbalances that weren't addressed during their active years. If the tires on your car have an odd wearing pattern, you don't just change the tires because that's only the symptom. You first get an alignment and after, you cange your tires. I believe this is the grey area that no one can answer short term.
Correct! Which is why it's important alignment is on point post-LL. I'll be making a video about this soon thanks!
Question: Do our muscles, joints, nerves really adapt to the increased length permanently? Or is increasing flexibility and attending PT a temporary solution for our bodies to cope with the increased height?
So what I’m trying to say is do post limb lengthening patients have to pressure themselves into a lifelong commitment of stretches and PT here and there even if it’s just a few minutes a week to prevent issues with muscles, joints, tendons, etc? Or can they just safely forget about all the stretches, exercises someday a few years after their surgery, if they wanted to, without the worry of the possible complications I mentioned related to the surgery they had years earlier?
I believe in the video he said two years.
Great video dude - some really good perspective here
Thank you so much for this video. I needed it to know if it's really safe long term.
I thought about this 10 years ago but the only thing that stops me is finance. Thanks for the insights that I think I would never take.
Do you still have a problem with muscle stiffness if you don't do stretching regularly?
If I don't stretch for say 2 or 3 weeks I'll get a bit stiff but not like it prevents me from walking and doesn't hurt just not as loose as if I stretch regularly meaning like 20-30 sec 2-3 x a week
@@Cyborg4Lifecan you run?
I’m 5’5, I would kill to be 5’8. Throughout my military career especially when I got out into a leadership position, being a shorter guy had its hurdles especially when dealing with much taller bigger leaders who’d I butt heads with. Ultimately it’s not just a mindset thing because society literally looks down upon you both literally and figuratively. Regardless I carried myself like it didn’t matter and earned respect through my actions not my words. With that being said, if this becomes more mainstream, affordable and safer, I might consider this one day.
Being 5’6
4 inches would do wonders for me
Lol exactly me too
Same
Anytime one of my friends refer to me as little faris I delete them.
Me too
then I'm gonna kill myself
4'10 and im 23 years old :')
I had to have limb lengthening surgery not for vanity but because one of my legs was significantly shorter than the other. I had to have all three bones lengthened. Since the surgery my bones were brittle and I broke my femur twice. Because of this I now have osteoarthritis which just continues to get worse. This may have happened just from the original surgery too. If you lengthen all the bones in your leg you also have a possibility of developing hip dysplasia which I also now have. The dysplasia also causes pain. There are ways to fix that but it means more surgery. Which will likely cause more arthritis. Please if you're going into this for a little height I'm not judging but please consider the pain that it may cause you as you age.
The only thing that worries me is that I will lose my ability to run at my current pace permanently and also I read inserting rods into your bones got a higher rate of infection which can lead to amputation.
That's a great question. And the answer is it depends. Getting more length than your muscle flexibility can handle could affect things. Depending on the length you get, the new biomechanics you'll have after LL could alter your center of gravity etc. But with all that said, I believe with the right amount of rigorous physiotherapy and strategic rebuilding plan once you're healed you could "adjust" to these changes with enough practice although kids who grow tall naturally have more time to gradually adjust to these changes. So, yes I believe you could run at the same speed you do now once you're able to adapt to the mentioned changes. When that'll happen I can't say, it'll depend on the person. But I can say the internal rods have a waaaaayy lower chance of infection than the external devices do especially with qualified LL doctor.
@@Cyborg4Life plz try to answer my question.... Wouldnt they remove that rod inserted into bone a few months ago after being artificially grown to a certain height???..... Or they leave that rod inside our bone till death..😓😓😓... Or will they put patients on bed for another 9 months ....
Its very awkward to waste nearly 2 years for 3inches tall...and nothing to say about money...that's like hell😬😬😠😠...
Only femur being long while ur hands and tibia being short🤣🤣🤣🤣....and can a artificially remade femur balance our whole body mass???......lots of useless pain😁😁...
Just put insolers and don't worry about ur height...I'm 5'7 wearing insolers make me 5'10...and that's enough for me though😂😂😂.
..and my age is 18 but few people are saying that u can add 3inches more even after crossing 22... Is that true??
@@vishnuamit7290 they will remove it for sure after the bone fully recovered i guess.
How’s squatting and leg exercises. Do you feel weaker
I did at first like first year or so but after I strengthened up I was good
Its basically like building a new area with muscle
Great video man 👍 if you take care of yourself train eat right stretch sleep right ( all things were supposed to do anyway) you'll be absolutely fine
Exactly! One of my favorite sayings..."Proper preparation prevents poor performance" and recovery!
Kindly comment on this.
The main matter of concern would be, whether or not, the possibility of a potentially weaker limb, again, only if it is a possibility. That is to ascertain, whether the leg, for example, can bear the load of jogging or running, the arm can withstand the load of a barbell or dumbbell. Whether the place where calcification has taken place, is as strong as it was before and without being a joint in the bone. The place where calcification occurred if as strong as the rest of the bone structure then it is all ok and rest of the issues are temporary and minor ones.
Please please make updated video regarding to your own experience man 😊
Maybe I will but people don't care about me 😩
@@Cyborg4Life gymbros will always be here for you bro
Hey Victor I just checked out your video and am very interested in undergoing this surgery. Will it be possible for me to go from being 5'10" to 6'4" tall? How long will it take me to reach that height? Please let me know bro. BTW, you look FANTASTIC.
6 inches is a tough bet. I think one surgery at a time to see if you can achieve the typical 4-5 inches and then go from there. Thanks!
Lol 6'4 is too tall man trust. Getting into buses and cars sucks . Aim for 6'1 perfect height for men
@@barrymcokiner69 exactly, and if you do quadrilateral lengthening you can get 5 inches max
Bsdk ye to achhi height h
@@barrymcokiner69 this is funny. I am 6 foot 1 and I am considering this. I wish I was a little taller
I'm 5'10 and I'm trying to get to 6'0. This seems like the best way to do it.
Youd really get that for just 2 inches? What's the motivation?
@@high.vibrational.collective To be honest, it's my insecurity. Why I don't want a massive height boost is that it'll mess up my proportions. Imagine if I used it to be 6'4, my arms and torso would be too small.
Same here, I once dated a pretty girl but she said I'm too short for her to continue dating, I've been feeling extremely insecure about my height ever since. I'm 5'10
@@shivz732 Thats just ridiculous since 5'10 is above average. How tall was she?
@@shivz732 Well, in that case, I think you dodged a bullet.
There is absolutely no way that this surgery won't lead to insane issues as you age. smh
I better watch out 😱
Does the muscles stretch out permanently with physiotherapy after the surgery or it remains tense for the rest of your life and you have to keep stretching them to live normally?
I’m 5’10 and considered short everywhere I go I can’t catch a break
At least youre not me. Im 5"8.
@@youtubechannel-uw8xuat least you are not me, I am 5'7"
What in the world, to me 5’10 is tall😭
Hey Cyborg, so I have done the lengthening surgery. My muscle is stiffened and currently walking like a penguin without crutches. When does a person start walking normal again? What exercises do recommend to help a person walk normal again? Had PT during lengthening but went home so looking for PT at home.
How much time has been passed for surgery
Yeah we're launching a virtual PT service soon. But it should be about another 6 weeks before you get a normal walk back if you just started walking
What were you thinking? Completely unnecessary surgery! Your quality of life will suffer because of your vanity!
Hey, would you recommend this surgery to others? did you judged by people?
I think what god made you in reality its your best form you just have to be happy on it and satisfied.
Hi there.
Quick question from a 5'3 guy: let's say after 2-3 years after you get the surgery will you be able to do the same things you did before the surgery (running, jumping, etc)? Is there a chance that you will not look proportional?
Also, a personal question: do you regret doing the surgery?
yeah you could if all goes well
I’ll be amazed if you people are totally fine at age 60, 70, 80.
There’s basically no research into how you will age. The limited research already shows osteoarthritis and knee pain after 15-30 years, and those are on minor surgeries. The 6+ inches that they are doing nowadays is recent. They don’t know the long term complications.
I know this guy got it for a discrepancy where he was at more risk for pain without it. That is an exception. This surgery should not be done for cosmetic reasons in my opinion.
We are already going to get disabled as we age. It’s common for elderly people to have joint pain, arthritis. This surgery would at the very least increase the risk of getting that. But it’s possible it could make it much more severe and happen at a much younger age. This guy is knowledgeable but the reality is there is very little research, and NO research on the extreme cosmetic procedures that people have started doing recently.
I read a longitudinal study on people who got it in the early 90s and were followed up on recently. The study was small but it absolutely found increased risk of arthritis among other conditions. Arthritis, knee pain, hip pain are miserable, awful conditions. You do not want to live with chronic pain. We are supposed to take care of our bodies so that as we age, we can be in less pain. Not more.
You have one life, one body. You are lovable at any height.
You are going to be dead one day like everyone else. No one lays on their death bed and wishes they spent $100K on a surgery that would’ve given them pain and potential disability. You are changing your body in a way that is unnecessary.
Do not get this surgery unless you have a condition that makes it a medical treatment.
At least spend some time volunteering with disabled people who have chronic pain. I think if you volunteered for an organization where you worked with those people directly, you’d see life and health is so precious, and risking it for a few inches height seems egocentric, pointless, and self-injurious.
I’m a man but like I’m literally 5’2 🥲 honestly a couple inches would help-
@Steel Beast Gym noice
I want this surgery so bad , honestly no physical pain can be more painful than the mental pain I have because of standing at only 5’9”.
I'm 5.5 chill dude
I'm 5'7 your exaggerating
How many inches of height did you gain? :) And how tall were you before the procedure? Did you finance? Thanks bro
You can get 3 inches in the femur, 2 inches in the tibia. 5 inches in total, though some sources say you can get 6 inches, but most say 5. He was 5’7, now he’s 5’9.
@@averyjudgementalsoldier8303 16 cm is the max of the internal nails as for externals that’s a whole different story
@@thorfinn7063 I might get it checked.
@@averyjudgementalsoldier8303 how may inches you trying to get 3 or 6 just curious
@@thorfinn7063 6 if possible.
if you dont like your height? Then Deal with it. i would never do this to myself
Thanks for your input
Do you know how often one could develop permanent knee pain for tibia lengthening? Im most worried about that
I can't say if any pain would be permanent since you'll probably heal and with good rehab shouldn't have lingering effects. I had the tibia done and although it was sensitive and a bit painful for 1-2 years, after that I didn't even notice it so I don't think so in my opinion
That's a long time to be in pain.
@@Theyoufeelme my knees hurt and i haven't even had the surgery so i think i can handle it hahahshah
I don't wanna be taller for any aside from myself. I just wanna be taller.
As I've seen it's mostly men who are insecure about height. Would you guys be surprised if I,a woman, am and have been insecure and hating my height my whole entire 19 year old life? Because I've been WANTING TO GET THAT SURGERY FOR YEARS! I've been reading and researching for months. I really do hope I get to be my desired height🥺
I believe you
Honestly if you're 19 your plates might not be fully fused yet. You would have a better shot at taking HGH, way less complications also
woman have no say between guys wanting a leg lengthening. Plenty of women are 5’2 5’3 or even less. Unless you are trying to be some dominant actor or are a short person, I see no reason for this procedure in women. Sorry but this is facts here. Guys have this expectation of them that women do not have. Women are grown up from start to finish getting compliments left and right meanwhile men never see any of that unless we work until our hands and body fall apart to actually mean something to somebody.
It also depends how short you are but I see PLENTY of women 5’3 or 5’2 or even shorter… I however legitimately hardly ever see short guys this height or even guys 5’6 it’s rare as hell.. god made women naturally shorter and weaker and as for guys when it happens to them it sucks I couldn’t even imagine it. I’m 5’11 and I want to be taller lmao but I’m not gonna be or risk it for some expensive surgery and women shouldn’t even have this worry, literally at all.
@@ty8473 We don’t get respect and you know this. You can admit that short men aren’t treated with respect and treated as a joke but somehow women don’t have the same problem? Being short comes with so many dangers you as a male won’t even think twice about. You sound like an idiot
I'm already marriage, so I don't want to do the procedure to get women, but height influence in men lives goes far beyond get women, it is about respect, confidence, work oportunities,.... I think this surgery is the most important thing a short men can do in live, and it is a goal worth pursuing.
My worry is ultimately bones are broken. I've never broken a bone before (had a hairline fracture in my nose. Long story) and worried about what I can't do after. Can I do leg presses at the gym? Kickboxing? What kinda stress can the pins take?
Yeah breaking the legs is a scary thing but a necessary evil to get the process lol. Yeah you can do all activities after bone is healed. It's not recommended to do any super heavy lifting with even the stryde nail. Wait till bone is hard from consolidation phase
@@Cyborg4Life So would I be able to do heavy lifting after a few years? I'm 5'8 maybe 5'9. I've thought about doing this. I'm not exactly a power lifter. But I wouldn't want to sacrifice fitness for height. I've managed to do 200lbs (light, I know) on a leg press for several reps. I also occasionally do kickboxing. I could give it up for a year or two. The deal breaker is giving it up forever. I hope you don't mind me asking. I just gain weight INSANELY easy. I hate being short but I HATE being fat even more. Thanks and you're videos are awesome
@@RomanDavidDeSilva Oh no you would be able to get back to doing it within 2 years for sure. You would probably want to be a tad conservative to ensure a full recovery but it would be possible
@@Cyborg4Life Thanks 😀
just start skateboarding then you'll no longer be scared of broken bones
I'd wait for a pill or something to make the bones to grow. No way would i break my bones. As you age, it's common for bones to deteriorate on their own. With previously broken bones, I'd imagine that'll only make things worse.
You think pills contain some super gentle fairy dust or smth?? They can cause a plethora of issues. Liver and kidney failure are just the tip of the iceberg
We need to do these things forever!!
Well only if you're a strength athlete as things get tight. Really though only for about 1 year after your surgery
@ishang lama bro nepali ho ?
@@souravthapa2164 yes ..
What about using steroids,igf-1 des, bpc 157,tb4,tb500,red light therapy, hyperbaric oxygen therapy in this surgery you mean your healing rate will be 50% faster right??.
Im 5'8 as a 16 year old. I wish I could grow 6 feet. Sadly, its not possible. Im thinking if I should do this later when im in my 20s.
You might still grow so give it time. But definitely waiting until you're sure you're not growing and have the open opportunities
You could grow to 5’9/5’10/5’11.
Thank you so much for this Video even if I just found you. It is very informative.
Would 4 cm of LL in the femur be relatively quick and low risk compared to more standard, longer, increments? I am a younger guy and I am wondering about how long the entire process from day 1, to walking, would be if I had 4cm (1.5 in) in the femur.
Absolutely yes. In fact you might only be out for about 6weeks and then heal for 6 weeks so could be walking within 3 months but 1.5 inches taller. I had a similar length done via LL of my tibia
@@Cyborg4Life Is this the time taken for full recovery directly proportional and scale linearly to increase in length?
I mean, if 1.5inches takes 3 months, will 3inches take 6 months and 4.5 inches take 9 months or even worse 2 surgeries and 1.5 years?
Please reply.
@@therealb888 Yeah just about. But your guesses are just about on point. 3 inches will be about a 6 month timeframe
@@Cyborg4Life thank you. I am aiming for 4-5 inches so that's going to be 2 surgeries over 2 years right? First year 6 months for one surgery (meaning up to stydre removal). Then the next year again another 6 months.
Also do I need to go for arm lengthening if I go for 4-5 in (10-12.5cm) of leg lengthening to maintain proportions?.
Sorry if I am asking too much, I am new to this and still learning, will check out your body proportions video as well.
@@therealb888 You might not need to go for arm lengthening and it would depend more on how you look post-leg lengthening. The leg to body ratio will help determine. Yeah those time frames seem right for surgeries if you do them back to back like that
So all the major probelms can be avoided if you stay up on stretching, physical therapy, and going to all your check ups?
Yes and a good surgeon
@@Cyborg4Lifephysical therapy and going to check ups for how long? Forever?
would you ever be able to do rigorous exercises again?
Yes after about 1 year but closer to 1.5 to 2 years with good trianing
Cyborg 4 Life ooo thanks for the info man
@@Cyborg4Life how about cycling? I'm an athlete
@@ezekielalvarez8759 You mean with a bike? Yeah great rehab tool
What about mma or wrestling?
Pretty interesting! I agree that having the right perspective is very important. I'm interested to know, though, do your legs ache when the weather changes?
I think that there's some pressure changes that can be sensed in the limbs and joints especially if devices are still implanted
Interesting! Thanks for the reply.@@Cyborg4Life
2 questions mate. How much height did you gain? After the surgery can you go to the gym and lift weights as before? Thanking you in advance.
I gained almost 2 inches and yeah you can go back to gym about 8-10months after surgery but it will take 1 year or more to do what you did previously
@@Cyborg4Life Just wowwww, thanks mate.
currently 5'10 and 20 year old i wish god blessed me with atlesat 2-3 more inches
You are already full grown ,no chance to grow taller now
@@akashpanwar1490 Yeah sadly :(
im 5'4 and 20 as well... god blessed you enough
You’re my height. We don’t have the same issues like shorter than average men have. But yeah racking in the top tier women would be better.
Victor do you know any cases about the patient who did this surgery 30~40years ago? I'm worried about the health problem when i become older like 60 or 70years old
Don't have enough data yet to confidently say but unlikely if done well
Will It be Dangerous When We Become Older
will It be dangerous when we become older
This is a very scary surgery.
Hi, you are doing great job making these videos. I wanna ask you that after surgery in both the limbs for height increasing, How much it take for us to walk ?
If you do one set of bones it will take about 5 months or so to walk. But it could take a bit longer for some people or possibly less. If you get the other bone segment done then just add that in about 1 year later so after everything about 1.5yrs
Cyborg 4 Life What about if we went for both limbs at the same time, will it be more harder to walk initially or will take more time as compared to surgeries done one by one
@@prateeksharma291 Probably yes because the stiff muscles would prevent you from reaching max height fastest. You will walk sooner but you may not reach max height you could if doing both individually
Cyborg 4 Life okay, so can you tell me the best procedure possible for me as i am only 5’3 and willing to add 3-4 inches . Please can you tell me the best procedure. Thanks 😊
@@prateeksharma291 Stryde nails are great! If not Precice is good. But if none of those perhaps LON on lower leg.
I was born with limb length deficiency (by 5cm) and I have had operations on my ankle coz I have never walked flat on my foot I was also in a splint for 3 years and had one operation on my knee because I never had a ligament and I just had a operation where they cut my bone in half and they put a metal rod down my bone from my hip to knee (they had to go from my hip because my bone was to narrow) the operation I just had was in February i spent 3 months leg thing it and now i was waiting for my bone to grow back it’s been 5 months in total and my bone hast grown I took a load of vitamin c and all that and calcium im still on crutches and have to be in a wheel chair for school I recently went to the doctors (I have been going every week since my operation wich was almost 6 months ago) and they told me I have to have a bone graft now so there taking the bone of my hip to put in my leg I have lost some nerves in my leg and have to do 3 physio sessions with 7 exercises in I can’t wait bare on my leg atm until my bone has formed so I havnt walked for almost 6 months so yeah… oh and my operation my for lengthening was on my femur
Nice video!!
Edit: I’ve subscribe and your videos really help me cope
I’m 5’1, 20 years old. And it’s so god damn rough. I can’t go a day without being mistaken as a kid. Even at jobs. I want this so badly- but surgery cost aside, I have a heart problem which causes me to pass out almost every time I stand up. So I literally will not be able to get this and it’s so frustrating.
Try height insoles idk
God bless you brother
@@OnlyOneHunnids I’ve been told a couple time to use platform boots, my style is kind of on the alternative side so some friends of mine said it wouldn’t look too weird so I might try that out.
I am 5"0 and living in asia
Trust me it is not working, woman always want taller boy.. the taller the better.. so short guy wont get any priority even u are good, nice and etc
@@hendrakho1710 yeah same here. I feel your struggle. I’m gay, and guys feel the same way. If you’re short not a lot of people are into that. However I got lucky, I’m in a relationship with someone who doesn’t use my height against me. I wish you luck friend
Can you run faster and have quicker bidirectional turns (agility)? I don't want a surgery that lowers my chances of running away from danger to take care of my family...
I see. Well assuming you don't mean hunting and just running away from physical harm - then the surgery will impact your physicality for about 16 months. At around 24 months if you get it done with a top surgeon you'll recover very well
I'm 5'4 and a martial artist. I have slightly longer legs and a short torso as well as short arms...would you recommend that I lengthen my thighs and shins by 2.5 inches each to achieve 5 inches more height? And then I was thinking of using LON method on my arms to slightly balance them with my new longer legs...is LON safe to use on biceps and forearms? Thank you for all your videos and information Cyborg, it helps a lot
@@liv4you I think he did in a previous video I commented on, it's a long road of recovery for martial artists after limb lengthening but it's possible. You can use a combination of methods to save money, but I would follow Cyborg's advice.
It's a reason why you're built the way you are...it's part of a natural design for you. I'm 6'2" but have average size limbs because I have dense muscle. I'm naturally thick. I have a sturdy frame. I'm primarily built for endurance
@@j-us-t_be-in-g not bad, but nothing wrong with a little enhancement if you got the cash
My concern for you is that I highly doubt you will ever be the same in martial arts. I'm also a competitive athlete (weightlifting) at a high-level, I'm not even considering this process, but if I had any desire to do it, I still would choose not to because the likelihood of you ever performing the same is low. Either way, I wish you all the best brother.
@@sandrost4243 I don't need to be the best martial artist in the world or be breaking concrete blocks with my bare hands and legs but I would be happy if I could train in taekwondo and boxing again with light striking at the very least. I don't even have the money to do it currently so it's pointless to think about, I'm enhancing myself in every way I can besides my height. It's something superficial at the end of the day, but we value it as humans
I almost laughed when you mentioned arthritis (in a not funny way) bc I've had issues with my knees since probably my late teens - early 20s. I have mild knock knees and started looking into osteotomy to prevent arthritis from developing/avoiding knee replacement as long as possible. From what I can tell, arthritis will likely happen to me if I leave my knees as they are, so ig that possible complication from LLS doesn't scare me as much as it should.
I want to look into it more but so far, if I had the money, I'd still say for me pros outweigh the cons.
How did you handle the cost?
2:33 yeah, I'd wish all the guys that are interested in this had a strong mindset. If they had they wouldn't do this and would learn to appreciate what they've got, that's the hardest lesson of all in life and many people never learn that. I'm 17yo and I'm 6ft tall and yeah I'd like to experience how it would be to be taller I guess and if I continue growing that would be cool but I don't really need to be taller, and even if I was shorter I wouldn't ever go through a procedure like this to get any higher than I was supposed to be. And I'm saying that as if I had stopped growing because I am 6ft ever since 16yo and I'm almost 18 now.
I understand all the reasons why some guys would want this but comments saying like "I'd do anything to be 6ft" or "I'd do anything to be taller" are sickening to me, society has really failed you brothers if height is the only thing that matters to you. Be honest to yourselves and don't put yourself down just because of something that is genetically determined, work on things that you're determining, become the best version of yourself you can be without any shortcuts and then ask yourself do you really need this, would girls or people really appreciate you more if you were taller, do you yourself appreciate only tall people?
Thanks for sharing. Many have tried that but based on my conversations many have said that society has several levels of height discrimination that can't be overcome but I understand what you're saying
Hey cyborg 4 life . First of all i want to thank you for the afforts you make for us .
I have a question about long term effects of this surgery
Once i fully recover from the surgery does it mean i get back to my pre surgery condition ? Or i will still have limitations like facing complications or pains in the old age like in 60s or 70s
No it shouldn't be any limitations if rehab goes well
Unless you have uneven limbs you should never get this surgery. For a couple reasons which I’ll explain.
1. Women won’t find you more attractive. Yes women find tall men more attractive, but only if they are naturally tall. You can’t hide the surgery, she’s gonna find out and I guarantee she’ll find it super unattractive that you got this surgery.
2. You will never reach your full athletic potential after getting this surgery, the damage your legs suffer because of it will show at some point.
3. Old age will not be pleasant. Old injures plague people in their golden years, and this will most definitely render you basically immobile around 70.
4. For the amount of money you would spend on this Frankenstein surgery, you could invest in a down payment in a house, a freaking house!
5. Your results are a gamble. There is no guarantee of success and even if it goes as planned, you will still have to deal with the things I listed above.
Just don’t do it.
Drivel
@@IshaanKhatter-hy4vb no counter points? Ok then, enjoy coming to the conclusion that I was right about 5 minutes after getting the surgery, I tried.
@@billyred889tsk tsk sad face sad face boo hoo, man up small fry
Will you still be able to jump like before the surgery, like in a basketball game and stuff?
yup you can
While I wanna trust your word, I'd rather get linked statistical deta on those long term effects rather then just relay on your word
Me too. Good luck waiting 20 more years
@@Cyborg4Life sorry but without deta showing me a high % of what happened to people in their old age after the surgery, it legit just feels like you're setting up dudes into a wheelchair
You have invested interest here and it makes me feel a bit cynical about trusting you which I genuinely want to!
What are you talking about lol? I’m not telling anyone to do the surgery I could care less I just want them to have credible information which this is what the world class surgeons have said I’m just reiterating. Believe what you want but patients get this done regardless I’m just making sure they pick good surgeons and do their PT for best possible outcome.
Does the bone grow 100% exactly same as the bone before?
No
@@bobgomez9249 then?
My biggest fear would be weaker bones.
Nah over time they heal just as good as before
I didn’t like my height as a girl, and something happened hurt me so bad, it was when I saw my boyfriend of 9 years, asking girl on social media what’s your height, that he likes tall girls and cheated on me with her cause she was 170cm when I’m 164cm.
I’m not going back to him but this hurt me a lot and I’m saving for this surgery.
Thanks for sharing this
Hey you dont need to do the surgery! 164cm is a great height! Im not saying this to make you happy. Your ex is stupid and dumb. Tbh, Im surprised you are insecure about your height. 164CM for girls is not short at all.
NINE years relationship down the drain because of 6 cm??? He's stupid
What ablut arthritis? This is not a direct correlation of the lengthening, rather as a result from the break. Normally with severe injuries, arthritis is often developed afterward.
It's different. Muscle tension is more likely to cause arthritis or poor bone alignment. But yeah poor surgical technique could also affect things
What I still don't understand is do I have to spend the rest of my life streching my leg muscles after the surgery so I don't ache? Do the muscles make new cells while the leg bones are being lengthened during surgery or do they just adapt to the new length? I just want to know what would happen if I don't strech at all or do any physical activity (I mean after the 2 year recovery period), will I feel pain from basically doing nothing? Thanks for your content.
No not necessarily. I think it's for people who just are very muscular you should stretch if you train a lot. But if you don't do any physical activity prepping with some stretching is a good idea but not a requirement and you will be fine to live normal life without it. I just do it because I'm an athlete who does have muscle mass on legs and it can cause tightness if I don't. Any athlete should stretch I don't know any that doesn't lol. The muscles will undergo histogenesis and adapt to new length thus allowing for increased ROM within 2-3 yrs. Muscle takes time unlike bone.
From where did you get your surgery done? What was the cost? What was your before and after height?
His costs were covered because he was insured, he had a temporary disability (aka leg discrepancy) because of an accident that caused one of his legs to grow and the other one to stunt, so he fixed it,
Although I don’t know his height
@@kendrickbritto8556 alright thanks
Hello Victor, I would like to ask regarding muscle stiffness, is it something that will never go away? I understand that it gets better overtime, but it isn't the same or atleast close to pre-op? Does that mean you'll need to stay stretching forever even if you stretch less now?
I was wondering because doesn't muscle that get stretched anyways to tear regenerate new muscle fibers to adapt/ How is this different from when you're bodybuilding to gain muscle mass? It makes me think also about people who would lengthen to 3 inches+, do they stretch more often than someone who did just 2 inches like you?
I'm asking because I plan to do this in the future and lengthen atleast 6cm or 7.5cm on femurs as I am 168cm/5'6 right now, and would like to atleast be in the range of 5'8 or 5'9.
Fantastic question and my answer is it depends. If you lengthen, regain your full ROM flexibility and don't build much more muscle mass than you have at that point then no you won't need to keep stretching forever. But if you're like me and you do continue to try to get bigger and stronger then yes you would or you will lose some ROM. It's just like it is for other muscle builders but more if you have done LL. Even though fiber-splitting hyperplasia takes place during ample lengthening, the new muscle will eventually undergo hypertrophy and grow bigger to the point it causes more tension by default so it would need to be stretched some too but if you just lengthen and stretch till you get back to old ROM then don't build significant muscle you'll be fine
@@Cyborg4Life so what if you want to maintain your physique after getting lean without trying to put any muscles. do you still have to stretch forever?
@@slater9408 only until you wake up with no residual stiffness. But if you build a lot of muscles it can be tough
Can I do squats after surgery
Im 6 foot and 17 but i always wanted to be taller
I’m 6ft at 15... I will get the surgery when I turn 18, or 19. I just feel short.
@@averyjudgementalsoldier8303 you might grow still most men stop growing at 18 so if your still that height at 18 then you most likely stopped growing but the only way to know is to get a growth plate X-ray to see if they are fused
@@averyjudgementalsoldier8303 im not sure ill do it since im scared i might not run or not be physical again
@@waffleking3gamer414 you will be able to run. You just have to rehab and get used to your new height.
@@averyjudgementalsoldier8303 i know but the risk of my legs breaking at a high fall or running teough the forest let alone lifting weights dingles back my head
Can you play soccer/ sports after this surgery
I'm 5’2 and during my free time, I usually play pick up basketball, if I want to increase my height by 3 inches, will it affect my athletic ability
Yes it will affect you short term as in 1.5-2 year but pickup basketball after that will be fine
@@Cyborg4Life so worth it
It’s sad how distorted society has become that people are willing to destroy their health to fit in. Idc what anyone says, this surgery 100% destroys your longevity.
Did you have it done? If you get it done with a good surgeon and rehab and rebuild properly it has no long term effects that data can prove as of yet
@@Cyborg4Life don’t need long term data to make a common sense extrapolation based on observed bone embrittlement in the elderly. Severing bones and splicing them with metal rods will 100% have negative consequences as the bone density and structural integrity degrades with age. It’s literally common sense. And to answer your question I would never get a surgery like this for vanity, this video just randomly popped into my recommended.
Gotcha well yeah it’s not for everyone. And all bones in people who didn’t even have surgery done has degradation due to old age. Bone is the only tissue that heals without scar tissue. It remodels perfectly if raw materials are there. The decline happens in some individuals who don’t mind nutrition etc. in fact hypertrophic remodeling is common at the site of the osteotomy as in my and other patient cases so if bone is the argument than it might actually be stronger due to the robustness of the callus. If you are concerned about joint stress due to skewed levers and moment arms around fulcrums after extreme lengthening well then I’d have to say we need data but otherwise this surgery, again if done properly, is very straightforward and not harmful to the bone.
I've just discovered that this surgery is available and have watched a number of your videos...you are great! Is is possible to have some direct communication with you through email?
@Cyborg 4 Life: I'm 5'5. How do you see the intervention after all these years and research? Is it really something to go forward?
Yes I think there will be device improvements but drastic alternative methods may take at least another decade to 15+ years