Battle of the Five Armies - Book version
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 5 июл 2024
- The ancient dwarf-kingdom of Erebor with the legendary treasure of Thror lies undefended. Dwarves, Elves and Men have their conflict, but when the Orcs of Gundabad approach the mountain, all quarrels are forgotten, and a great battle is about to begin. This video attempts to represent Tolkien’s version of the battle.
Contact the splendid voice actor Liam Taylor: taylorvoice.co.uk/?page_id=53
Thanks to Synthesis08 and psyshock from the FlowScape community for their contribution to the project.
Support me on Patreon: / lome
Support me through PayPal: www.paypal.com/paypalme/Loreo...
Join my RUclips membership:
/ @loreoftheringsyt
Check out my merch: lore-of-the-rings.myteespring...
The Middle-Earth knowledge playlist: • Saruman the White - Ep...
Lore of the Rings is a channel dedicated to the exploration of Middle-Earth. My goal is to share Tolkien’s world to the masses and to give a mere representation of his works. I hope you find my content enjoyable and enriching. Subscribe now to explore the legendarium together with me.
Fair use permits limited use of copyrighted material without having to first acquire permission from the copyright holder
I do not claim the rights to artwork created by other artists. All credit goes to the artists themselves. If any artist would like their work removed or given additional credit, contact me and we will sort things out!
♪ - Music used in this video:
Grant Newman - Last March of Heroes
Kevin MacLeod - Grave Blow
Available under the Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported license: creativecommons.org/licenses/...
Link: incompetech.com/music/royalty...
Kevin MacLeod - Shadowlands 7 - Codex
Available under the Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported license: creativecommons.org/licenses/...
Link: incompetech.com/music/royalty...
Kevin MacLeod - Black Vortex
Available under the Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported license: creativecommons.org/licenses/...
Link: incompetech.com/music/royalty...
Kevin MacLeod - The Descent
Available under the Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported license: creativecommons.org/licenses/...
Link: incompetech.com/music/royalty...
I do not own this music, but I have used them rightfully under the Creative Commons license.
#thebattleofthefivearmies #thorin #beorn #bolg #gatheringoftheclouds 
Кино
Thanks to Poop train conductor, Teleperonwë MC, Bryan Perkins, Lachlan Titchmarsh, TheCapitaineMax, Domenic Minniti, Andrew Hubbard and Jeffrey Hallam for supporting me on Patreon! It was your donations that paid for FlowScape, the 3D-program that was used for creating Esgaroth and the Gate of Erebor!
This was perhaps the most difficult project thus far, not only was there many conflicting maps from Tolkien, but the battle itself is scarcely described. I had to learn FlowScape and Total War Attila as well as dealing with 5 exams. Now its all through, and I am very happy with the result :)
I outsourced the voice acting this time, due to the time-pressure, and I am certain that you find mr. Taylor’s voice splendid. He certainly can mimic Sir Ian McKellen! As always, if you believe my hard work and effort was worth it, consider supporting me on Patreon: www.patreon.com/LOME
I would love some feedback on what you think of the 3D-perspective, and if you want me to keep it or not!
PS: Also, sorry to the uber-die-hard-fans, I know the armors are not lore-friendly, but none really produce gameplay of lore accurate armors.
@Lore of Middle-Earth would you be willing to do a interview with History Of Middle Earth's channel on a podcast?
Yeah they are certainly talented people :) I would prefer creating some video instead tho, I am rather shy at present :)
I like the 3D units but locations should stay as map format imo. Also the voice actor was good but I still prefer your voice, it gives the channel character.
@@LoreOfTheRingsYTJust be yourself I think you'll be fine and a cool guest to have on.
@@gumbyshrimp2606 I will keep my voice :) I just had very limited time, so I preferred to do it this way.
I don't understand why the movies weren't like this, this would've been 10 times better
CGI-hell...
They just wanted to show nifty CGI, not tell a story that would engage the audience...
the battle in the movie, to be frank, was one of the most confusing battles I've watched.
Hear hear! In the movie, it ended up being unintentional comedy.
Wholeheartedly agree!
Thorin: "I am not my grandfather."
Balin: "You certainly look like him in this video covering the Battle of Five Armies, here."
Thorin: "What? Let me see."
Hahah! Thorin certainly looks more like a man in the movies, but Thror looks very dwarfish. I decided to go with him instead. After all, Thorin's armor was golden :)
@@LoreOfTheRingsYT Well, that, and Thorin's the oldest of his company, so I can understand that choice. In fairness to the movies, I always like to imagine Thorin had what Christopher Lee had: good genetics, since even in his old age Christopher Lee looked a lot younger than he really was.
No self-respecting dwarf would have a beard as short as movie Thorin's.
The White Dragon : I thought Thorin shaved off his beard in grief when his grandfather was killed and his father went mad.
@@TheWhiteDragon3 Not unless if their beards were singed by dragonfire like when Smaug took the Lonely Mountain. If I was of the longbeards and I was displaced from my homeland by a dragon, I would probably keep it short as a reminder of that loss and to remind myself to not forget in longing to take back the Lonely Mountain. While Tolkien didn't give that to Thorin in the book, it at least feels thematically appropriate.
These kind of videos are the reason why television is dying, keep up the good work! Great job :)
Thank you :) Nice comment indeed!
C'mon man, television is anything but dying. Say what you will, but the quality of television fantasy is better than it has ever been.
@@dainironfoot5198 Television is dying, streaming is rising.
@@LoreOfTheRingsYT Oh yeah, I was counting streaming as television. And streamed shows like the Witcher, the Mandalorian and Game of Thrones have been absolute triumphs. Now just to see how Amazon does their LOTR show.
Game of thrones season 8 is why
"Too much to bear", right after Beorn charges in. I see what you did there. :)
Just to clarify, according to the book, the five armies are.
1. Men
2. Elves
3. Dwarves
4. Goblins (orcs)
5. Wargs (wolves)
True that, well done :)
I thought the 5 armies were (1) men, (2) elves, (3) Thorin's army (small as it was), (4) Dain's army, (5) orcs. Thank you for the great video!
I always think its bats not wargs. And the poor eagles get missed too
I always thought it was 1. Men 2. Elves 3. Dwarves 4. Orcs and 5. Gundabad orcs
I thought it was 1:Men 2: Elves 3: Dwarves 4: Orcs 5: Eagles.
I was so excited for The Hobbit movies for one reason The Battle of the Five Armies. I was severely let down by it, thanks for your accurate representation!
Glad to hear that :))
100% agree. They made it cheesy and you never really felt like anyone was in danger in the film. This video and the other battle breakdowns are worthy of a massive audience.
As a child I don’t remember the battle being all that important to the book. Wasn’t it just a chapter long or did my kid brain just block it out because it wasn’t as cool as riddles in the dark or bilbo naming sting?
@@theadtheogrekiller5629 the battle in the book was one Page.
I did read the book decades ago as a teen but didn't quite remember all the details.
So the movie altered key aspects of the Battle of the Five Armies.
The elf lord was noble, helped the towns folk and didn't want to shed blood for gold but the movie made him into a sneering character spoiling for a fight.
The move made the human townsfolk to be all old and decrepit and very pathetic looking but the book describes them as stout, brave and formidable.
And it was The Skin Changer who killed Bolg not Thorin.
Good summary!
It was Legolas, not Thorin who killed Bolg. Thorin killed Azog, who actually DID die at the Battle of Azalnulbizar according to the books
@@DavidbarZeus1 legolas doesnt even appear in the hobbit
@@cristianherazo1952 I was referring to the movies, not the book. News Redial said it was Thorin who killed Bolg in the movie, I was correcting that statement
@@DavidbarZeus1 Ohhh ok
This guy is making $26 a month on Patreon. Imagine what could do with a little more!
Thanks for your support Dom :) Your money was spent on the 3D-program. Hoped you liked them animations :)
@@LoreOfTheRingsYT yeah. And I love the voice acting. Really adds drama to the script. Going to miss your occasional odd pronunciations though!
I will return for the next video :)
Thank you for pointing this out. I loved the video, and seeing this gave me the push to join my first Patreon.
Im a member, how do we help him spread the channel and news. Im a GenXer so not as savvy as a millennial.
Where is the part where the Elves jump over the Dwarf phalanx?
Let's just say that I dropped Tauriel, and much of Jackson's bs :)
Lore of Middle-Earth good riddance.
@@LoreOfTheRingsYT It's a shame, Tauriel wasn't a terrible character, but her story was dragged down by that utterly pointless love triangle.
@@LoreOfTheRingsYT It wasn't so much Jackson's b.s.. The over abundance of CGI, terrible elfxdwarf love story and other awful things were due to meddling from MGM and Warner Bros.
I must point out that while it was stupid, it came straight from the books, "The elves were the first to charge,. Their hatred for the goblins is cold and bitter." Chapter "The clouds Burst" page 253 paragraph 3.
Unfortunately everyone is right, the film is too overloaded with Lord of the Ring-ish stuff. Really dissapointed when the title was changed from There and back again to TBotFA. Guess the alternate title of The hobbit wasn't Lord of the Rings enough, speaking of which, it was infuriating how almost 80% of everything that came from the book got pushed to the extended edition. It's actually pretty well done. I remember someone went to the trouble of editing the trilogy into one video called "There and back again". It cuts out anything that wasn't in the books which altoguether adds up to 5 hours, give or take half and hour, pretty good and it feels like a Hobbit movie.
Thranduil in the book: "we should take time to aid the men of Laketown and heal their sick and dying."
Thranduil in the movie: "lol lets kill the dwarves for fun"
All too true. Bard and Thranduil basically swapped moods.
Eagle is Tolkiens cheat code
Well said! Remember that the Eagles is basically directed by the Leader of Gods. And Tolkien is after all God. Well spoken my!
But eagles did not win this battle, Beorn did.
@@LoreOfTheRingsYT Didnt tolkien put himself as narrator of the stories? i mean he did create it but i always thought he was the narrator, kind off. Correct me where im wrong please!
@@KOEKIELC He means on a literal level, as Tolkien is the writer.
@@LoreOfTheRingsYT I'm not sure the eagles are directed by Manwe always, as Galdalf is his Maia servant, I would expect he also has room for a measure of favour with them or control, which i expect would be the former.
Excellent voice acting and visuals!!! The Battle of the Five Armies is a great scene, I wish the movies were more loyal to it :(. Keep up the great work :)
Thank you! Sadly Peter Jackson was given very little time as he was handed the project over after a dispute with Warner and Del Toro.
Those dwarves running full speed into that tree at 6:30 is the best thing I've seen all week.
I knew someone was going to notice it, you are the first one. Well done!
I'd just like to say, it is such a breath of fresh air to see someone put so much care and effort into their work. Especially a topic as rich and in-depth as Tolkien.
The attention to detail and the effort to stay true to the source material is noticeable and appreciated.
Look forward to more future videos!
Thanks once again dear Paradox. I notice your comments, and I always recognize you by name when I see the ring-script :)
Good to see Thorin properly portrayed with a real dwarf beard.
Wonderful stuff! I still to this day do not understand why Peter Jackson had to have Azog as the main antagonist in the film adaptations... Just have the scene where Azog dies in the Battle of Moria and have Bolg as the main antagonist in the Battle of the Five Armies.
Me too :) Poor Bolg.
Because Peter was handed a half finished project and was told, finish this in on year, the hobbit movies were an absolute production nightmare with a complete change of script late production and alot of mistreatment of the cast itself.
Many of the main actors of the dwarves weren't even invited to the premiere initially. It was that bad between actors and company.
@@Demon2k3 could they not delay the movie? Im unsure how movie productions work. Why wasnt Jackson given the role of director initially? Seems like such a mess
I don't blame Jackson, I blame the greedy incompetent executives.
@@beanzor
No, you cannot dely a movie.
Jackson may not have been chosen as director because he was too expensive for the studios taste.
Tell the main lotr battle according to the book! (Helm's Deep, Minas Tirith)
I already have made a video about Minas Tirith, its called "Siege of Gondor".
@@LoreOfTheRingsYT id love to see the battle of erebor (the one where the easterlings attack about the same time the orcs attacked gondor i believe)
@@tenyasha4398 As far as I know, Tolkien didn't write much about that battle. We only know that dwarves and men were pushed back to the montain, where Brand and Dain were slain and the situation looked dire. Then news of Sauron's defeat came and the Easterlings were driven back and fled. That's not much to go on.
@@Quallenkrauler okay thanks for the info didnt know that. That sucks because ever since they marched to the black gate i fell in love with them. I wish we saw more of them
You have outdone yourself! Amazing in every way!!!
Hva synes du om engelskmannen :)?
Lore of Middle-Earth Va? XD
This literally felt better than a movie wow
Thank you!
Hopefully we'll have the Last Alliance of Elves and Men of the 2nd Age as well as the Battle of Helm's Deep
They will all come :)
HELMS DEEP! HELMS DEEP!HELMS DEEP!
Funny how you say that, I just finished the Helms Deep map in this very moment
@@LoreOfTheRingsYT HELMS DEEP!I said!
I've been waiting for this moment. It's finally here!
I hope it is satisfying!
I love strategy videos soooo much, this is awesome!
Indeed in the book Elvenking (Thranduil based on assumptions of LOTR later) wasn't the warmonger unlike they made him in the movie. I remember when I read the book he was one of my favorite character. Bard was more forceful but fair. No kids were present. And the Master of the Lake-city wasn't that repulsive either. Turned out greedy at the end anyway. And of course no Legolas and a silly love triangle whatsoever. Kili and Fili died protecting Thorin, not some non-existed female elf Tauriel. Though I liked very much the extended appearance of Thranduil in the trilogy. The whole cast in the movie was exceptional I have to give credit to PJ crew on that. Thanks for your wonderful video and for Patreon info!
P.S. Oh and I forgot the whole Azug the Defiler silliness.
Lovely to see someone that truly knows the lore!
Wow! Just a great presentation from so many angles! Excellence!
Glad you liked it!
yesssssss, it's hereee
Let's go!
@@LoreOfTheRingsYT thank you for the hearttt :)
Amazing animations❤️
Thank you ELF Gaming :) Hopefully I will witness Legolas in one of your pack openings soon :)
@@LoreOfTheRingsYT is the tool you use for the maps tabletop simulator? :)
Can't wait to see the next battle with these divine new animations! Excellent work
Thank you! :)
What an amazing effort and video, great job.
Thank you so much 😀
Brilliant as always! Keep up the great work
Thank you :)!
I've been looking forward to this!
Lovely!
The plot about the bird hearing Bilbo speaking about the open hole in Smaug's armour and then whispered it to Bard before the kill shot, is so central to the plot of the story, that it's criminal to leaving it out of the movies. What the hell was Peter Jackson thinking about? I dislike the movies for lots of other reason, but that part was the worst.
It wasn't Peter Jackson's fault. He was trying to salvage a doomed project, and got the blame for it being doomed.
It would have possibly felt too quaint for the tone the movies were clearly going for, but it would have made for a great opportunity to involve Radagast in the actual plot.
Totally loved this! Great fun! AS MUCH fun as any of the movies!
Happy to hear that :)
I still remember some history channel use total war to show the battle or recreate them! Man i really love when i see someone using total war to recreate battles 8>
Anyway i have a question is thorin companions are actually 12 in the books?
Beautiful! I liekd it very much.
This video alone im subed and liking. Awesome work and great story telling.
As amazing as always!
Thank you :) !
These are of such high quality I can’t believe it
Fantastic to hear :)
Thanks for producing this very enjoyable depiction of the Battle of Five Armies. If only the movie had been like this, but it ended up being unintentional comedy! Great stuff! I look forward to more of this (if and when you find the time and energy). Again, many thanks!
Always working on new stuff, but it does of course take time!
@@LoreOfTheRingsYT I know! It's been nearly 2 months I've been working on my own next video for my own channel, and I'm still not quite finished!
Dude I was looking for the video with the guy with awesome dramatic voice, and settled for this. Then by the end I realized it was you, you just had hired a voice actor XD.
I only recently started appreciating how much of the epic fantasy battles you often find depicted in stuff like Warhammer or numerous works of fantasy literature actually has a decent precedent in Tolkien. The stout, heavily armored dwarfs with weapons that hint at their long affinity for mining, the bow-and-spear-centered elves, the unorthodox war mounts like "Warg riders" and the like. I don't really come to Lord of the Rings for epic battles very often, but it's nice and interesting to get a glimpse at the lineage of that stuff.
Nothing beats the truth!
Very well done this👍🏼🥂☀️
Well spoken! Thank you 🥂🥂
This channel is great. Thank you so much for these videos. Subbing.
Welcome aboard!
Excellent as always!
Glad you think so!
I wish you could create the entire journey with this video format
Much much better than the film!!! A very strong approval wave also for the voice and the sound of this video! Very well done!
I still love the movie version tbh, it scratches my strategy game itch.
These videos are great. When you run out of battles to cover you should take excerpts from the books and visually map out the journeys of the characters. I love the style. You could cover things like:
- The Flight to the Ford (or the hobbits journey to Rivendell in general)
- The journey of the Three Hunters
- Aragorn's path through the Mountain with his company to take the Corsairs
- Frodo and Sam's path through Mordor
Thank you! I have been thinking about making such videos for a while! Thanks for the suggestion, showing that these videos might draw interest from the audiences :)
@@LoreOfTheRingsYT No, thank you for bringing these works to life visually.
I also had a further thought and realised that another journey that could be mapped out would be that of Thorin's company from The Shire to Erebor.
@@kossend1 Good suggestion!
Amazing work!
Thank you!!
This is my new favorite channel
That makes me happy :)
Love the voice actor
There was always something satisfying about this battle. Goblin and orc armies were so devastated that I couldn't help but feel secure for the fate of Middle-Earth.
While this ensured the north was quiet for some time, the real event that kept everyone safe was the War of Dwarves and Orcs that preceeded this one, where Thorin earned his nickname and Dain earned his fame
True that!
@@SantomPh I did not read that book....
fantastic job
Thank you!!
Love these videos bro. Unfortunately I cannot donate to your Patreon, but I would just like to let you know how I much I enjoy these videos.
Thank you! Don't worry, I appreciate lovely comments and value them highly!
I didn't dislike the VA work you hired, but I also didn't dislike your voice work either. Keep at it, yo.
Very nicely done.
Thank you!
Infinitely better than movies!
Lovely to hear that!
I like how you have a picture of Thror at Thorins grave
very good and professional
Thank you :)
Well done sir! Well done!
Thank you Jeff as always!
Great video
I have to read the book again, I almost forgot how good they are
Awesome work! And it depicts the main reason i was so dissapointed with the movie: Beorn. He was a KEY figure in the battle. It was his ferocious charge that won the battle at the end, and in the movie he has like SECONDS of screentime ... but whatever, loved the video!
True! Beorn was super important, and was completely neglected
great work,
Thanks :)
So much more accurate than the films. Great vid
Thank you!
Great video!!!!!!
Thank you!
That was brilliant
Thank you!
Amazing!!!
Thanks!!
Incredible.
:))
I already like this kind of videos about real world History, but in Middle earth, it's even better
Happy to hear that! Did you like the video? And do you have any constructive criticism?
This portrayal of the battle is much better than the movie, although one thing I will point out about the movie is that when the elves started fighting the orcs with the dwarves it really stood out to me. Knowing the history between dwarves and elves, it means that even though they hate each other they will still come together to defeat their collective true enemy,orcs. (That jumping the dwarven phalanx was still a strategic failure imo though).
It's way more realistic the way I perceive it
This Is truly epic
Thank you!
You should do the Battle of Dale next!
As much as I want to, there's very little known about the battle, but I will eventually do it and I have a cool way to perform it I think :)
It would be awesome if you also cover the Lonely Mountain Battle during the war of the Rings, where Dain II was Slain
Another wonderful content! Thanks such effort put others to shame. :)
Thank you for the kind comment!
Lore of Middle-Earth seriously we’re the ones who should be thanking you! this is a great content I doubt anyone would make this tactical overview and history video since most channels are focus on real history not fantasy and sci fi. so thank you this like a community service very well appreciated by lovers of History and Fiction alike!
Wtf I didn’t get a notification
Great video hope to see more
Weird! Anyways, glad you enjoyed it :)
It was excellent
That makes me smile :) Thank you!
Why oh why the BATTLE of th FIVE ARMIES didn't follow this ?
Tolkien is the master.
Guillermo del Toro basically either could not read or else thought no one would notice. And then quit. And Peter Jackson got left holding the bag...
@@thatguyinelnorte Battle of the Five Armies had nothing to do with Del Toro. He was only involved in pre production. The fault for that travesty lies solely on the studio, who insisted on making The Hobbit a trilogy.
@@ThejollyFrenchman I'm sorry but did the studio demand all the movies be close to 3 hrs long, have the elves jump over a spear wall of dwarfs to attack the enemy first, the stupid love triangle, killing Smung in the third movie rather then the second, focus so much time on that corrupt official in lake town(forgot his name) in the third movie, skip the funeral and Ironfoots crowing of King of the Lonely mountain?
I have no doubt the studio has a fair share of blame on how these movies were made but to dissolve Jackson of any blame is completely dishonest.
I am so glad I only read the book :)
You are a lucky fellow!
You are good...you are good! Excellent!!🤴
Thank you!
im glad the fight was done differently in the movies, not so flawed in tactics, more thematic
Very nice
Thank you :)
12:18 uuuuggghhhh
I'm subscribing for that pun alone.
Hahah
Really excellent work. How different do you think the war would have been if Oakenshield would have shared the treasure from the beginning and the dwarves, elves and men had been a more united army? How long after a dragon dies does the treasure still cause dragon sicknesses? Poor Smaug. He had the coolest name in the series. So much fun to say... SMAUG. Really nice job on the video. 🐢
I honestly don't think the battle itself would have been much more different, except if this happened: that Dáin didn't rush to the mountain. If the Goblins came, they would probably have retreated inside the mountain and sent ravens to the Iron Hills and elsewhere. They might possibly have gotten reinforcements from more dwarves. How long the dragon-sickness lasts is not ever explained. SMAUG. Thanks for your support turtle :)
The little birdy saved the day 🐦
Que trabalho encrivel
Liam did a good job for sure but having watched your Gondor video, I really believe that your Viking accent adds something more wonderful to the videos.
I will return for the next one :)
Thrush talking to Bard right in his ear:
TWEET TWWEET TWEET
This video is very well done brother
Thank you!!
@@LoreOfTheRingsYT wow I commented this while watching and you replied before the video ended
@@thectheb I care about everyone that sacrifice their time to watch my videos. Thank you!
@@LoreOfTheRingsYT well I love everyone who spends a lot of hard work for his viewers like you
WOW !!
Thank you :)!
Excellent video. Thank you. Since I started to view Tolkien-themed RUclips channels, I've noticed that a lot of people from Nordic countries are drawn to Tolkien's work. Is this because Tolkien was heavily influenced by Nordic mythology, particularly Norse mythology? In the Völsunga saga - the text that also inspired Richard Wagner’s opera, Der Ring des Nibelungen - an all-powerful ring and a broken sword that is reforged are both main features of the story. And some of the character names alone -- like Thor, obviously -- derive from Nordic history.
Thank you as always Jeff :) I am not entirely sure why Nordic people are drawn especially to Tolkien, but it might be that we are drawn to Tolkien of the said reasons. Cool that you know about Ring des Nibelungen! I for my part was just drawn into the universe after watching the movies, then I read the books and was shocked. The books is pure gold.
Yes, if you´re already in to norse mythology it´s very interesting with the all the things in his work that are obviously inspired by it. Like Tolkien´s dwarves being quite similar to those in our mythology, how the people of rohan look like vikings and their language seem kind of scandinavian, the dragons, elves etc. As far as i can tell he never just ripped something off though but always put his own twist on it.
"Thranduil desired not to start a war over gold" Laughs in Oath of Feänor
:PPP
From which Total war game did you use the shot of goblins and dwarves? It looked pretty damn good.
I used Total War Attila with the Rise of Mordor mod :) Thank you!
@@LoreOfTheRingsYT Thank you for letting me know.
Good video. Where are you from mate?
Edit: By you, I mean the guy that usually voices these videos.
Norway! My voice returns for the next video
Dang in the movie they made Thranduil the one who wanted war and Bard the one who hesitated
Does thorins company count as an army? Like since I was a kid I wondered why its 5 armies if there's only 4
Nice stories, but I wish you cud tell more loudly, love it.
Thank you :) I will take the feedback!
Love it bro
Thank you :)
@@LoreOfTheRingsYT anytime man ima watch the hell outta any videos like this lol your getting better n better and it's fun to watch you improve and improve and try to make it.your own unique style
@@StarKi11erX Thanks! Comments like this really makes me feel all the time and effort is worth it :)
@@LoreOfTheRingsYT your very welcome. I may not be a rich man but nice words can be almost as good as a donation in a way lol plus I pass your channel along to my friends alot too so hopefully it helps lol
Carl Barks had to have based some of Scrooge McDuck's character off of Thorin Oakenshield, not just Ebenezer Scrooge and Andrew Carnegie. Scrooge's debut was in 1947--ten years after The Hobbit, and he has a lot of parallels with Thorin. Both have quite a temper, both are old and childless, both are greedy, but they are goal-driven, both come from prominent families that had fallen on hard times until Thorin/Scrooge reclaimed that long-forgotten gold. Scrooge has a money bin with wealth similar to what we see in the Lonely Mountain, both have fought giant-sized arachnids, both cherish a priceless heirloom: Thorin with the Arkenstone, and Scrooge with his Number 1 Dime. And both their sisters had two kids that accompanied them on their ventures: Thorin's sister Dis had Fili and Kili, and Scrooge's sister Hortense had Della and Donald Duck. Basically Scrooge could play Thorin if Disney adapted The Hobbit the way they did A Christmas Carol. Have Mickey play the part of Bilbo and Goofy play Gandalf. Let that image sink in.
Oh my. I actually collected Donald Duck for at least 10 years when I was younger, and I still have my collection. Carl Barks is incredible, and you just opened a new world to me with that parallel. That was great, thank you :)
@@LoreOfTheRingsYT No problem. I also forgot to mention that Huey, Dewey, and Louie made their debut in 1938 and their names have that catchy rhyming scheme like Dori, Nori, and Ori.
Ooooh. This is sick dude.
Superb, if only the film had followed this plot more closely
Yes, it would have been great!