UPDATE: As of 7:30p EST it seems that the pre-order status is unavailable on Amazon. Check back over the next few hours and days as I was told this was for PREORDER FIRST. Will update this post with more info when I have it. Uploaded as soon as it became available for PREORDER on Amazon Limited quantities of the AC edition (as I'm told by FlyDigi)! I will also have a few to give away (both Apex and Vader models) at WSOW AND TWITCHCON!
I feel so scammed, I went and bought a PS5 edge for PC 5 months back, and they have absolutly nothing so advanced. Thought there would be controler modules for replacement, but those are always out of stock. The Vader 4 Pro is so user oriented, they know exactly what gamers need for different genres of games. Hope they keep the focus on their products. I might have to treat myself for christmas again. Really nice review as well.
@@maxvader1000 yep. But Flydigi is the clear winner with native support to work with windows, comes with 1000 hz polling rate without haveing to use external software, and I am sure with the tension adjustable stick, most would find their preferred tension. And It comes at half the cost of an edge controller, whose replacement controller modules are going for the price of a Gamesir controller.
i was just thinking about selling my elite 2 and buy a new controller , im gonna buy this one , you conviced me , big fan here , keep up the good work brother
I’ve never used an Xbox layout until I switched to this. Instantly was used to it and if anything it’s more comfortable. My scuf reflex fps and those paddle placements actually feel weird to me now. I’ll never buy another scuf again. You’re selling if those are your reasons for not trying it especially for $80
@@killshot3331 I tried the apex 4, and I really hated the big gap in between the back buttons. Coming from a scuff reflex, I just love how the back paddles are connected and I don’t actually have to shift my middle fingers in order to press them.
@@Dangerrd Yeah I didn’t like them at first but you get used to them. The grip tape for the paddles is a must otherwise they were too slick and clunky to use. Love them now and haven’t touched my scuf since
Got the controller in about a week ago and this is genuinely the best controller I’ve ever used. Was worried about the rear button placement but they are placed in the perfect position. It’s reminds me of a better version of scufs rear buttons.
I’ve had this controller for a couple of weeks now, won’t go back to any other controller. Buy the stick on grip tape and it feels better than any other controller I’ve used (just about been through them all at this point). 0 0 dead zone feels amazing too
@@shaners1591 personally i prefer the vader 4 pro for fps games. the haptic triggers are something I can live without on the Apex 4 and I dont love the screen either.
As an owner of both controllers as well as many other Pro controllers I wholeheartedly agree the vader 4 Pro takes it to a new level. It's like my secret weapon in war zone.
what "pro" controllers do you have if you dont mind me asking? ive been looking into getting a Nagashock or battle beaver but this might add another option to the list, just not a fan of Xbox stick placement.
good content as usual! I got my 4 PRO today, first plunder game I got 21 kills and was accused of hacking by team of 4 that me and my buddy were farming. The tension rings are awesome! 4pro + Art sound is the shit! 👏🏻
Just came in an hour ago works amazingly with the xbox and the goku usb adapter the difference between this and the elite 2 is crazyy this one is way more responsive and in my opinion way better in every way!
@@haydenwilson6852 you have to connect the goku with a normal xbox controller set the vader 4 pro on bluetooth and thats it no latency at all ive been cooking people in warzone like never before lol;
I purchased and tried to use the Apex 4 controller you recommended but I could not get over the back button placement. I can easily use all 4 back paddles using different fingers for each on Xbox's Elite controller, but the Apex and Vader back button placement doesn't allow for that :/ I liked the Apex 4 in all other aspects but that was a dealbreaker for me
I have an elite 2 because of how perfect the paddles are but want the Apex 4 because of the polling rate. I’d look up “apex 4 paddles” there’s people online who sell paddles for them on Etsy. You have to take the controller apart but there’s guides online and the end result seems to be very similar to the elite 2 paddles.
You miss the most important part is how do you get the keyboard buttons to work on COD, doesn't read some of those keys. Was anyone able to connect other than ABYX?
Exactly bro, when u play fps game u gonna need soft left stick and hard right stick, i have to use foam ring to do it on my controllers but it make the stick cant go max range, it's quiet ok coz i alway play with verry high sensi but with this stick, u dont need foam ring anymore and becoz u can go max range on right stick, u have more options for right stick sensi !
Hi ArtisWar, i bought this controller. I used to play CoD on MnK all the time, but I recently switched to controller. It will take a long time before i get comfortable with it though. First game i played with the Vader 4 pro i dropped 45 kills. :)
Just ordered one of these and the grip take, just sending the Razer Wolverine 3 Pro back as I didnt like the dead zones on it, they missed with it as everything else was good
I've never used an Xbox layout until I tried this. Instantly was used to it and if anything it's more comfortable. My scuf reflex fps actually feels weird to me now and no no longer gets used. You're selling if that’s your only reason for not trying it especially for $80
@@killshot3331 see I’m the exact opposite. I used the Xbox layout for years, then switched to the PS5 scuf. Now I can’t go back because I love the PS layout so much better. I use the Apex 4 for almost 3 weeks, played awful with it back to back days, switched back to my PS5 scuf, and immediately went on an eight game win streak on COD MP ranked with a 1.35 KD. I can’t say it was for sure the controller but it just feels so much better
@Teddward same i got the instinct pro and then got a PC so wanted to try the ps and got the impact fps and then the reflex fps and can't go back honestly I love the ps4 layout better but def couldn't go back to xbox I tried and hated it idk it just feels to off for me
@@Teddward Lol yeah it’s crazy how that works. It’s definitely placebo effect because you have the skill but you should obviously use what feels most comfortable to you. My comment is towards the people knocking it before they tried it which I now know you have. Still interesting either way
the controller is absolutely great, but the position for the C and Z should be other, may be like wolverine v3 pro (close to the triggers) or scuf envision pro (on the left and right side of the controller), so you can remap those and use them in FPS game without release the right and left sticks, BUT FOR FIGHTING GAMES ARE GREAT....
saw this video yesterday and decided that since i needed a new controller anyway i might as well give this company another shot as i ended up buying the vader 3 and absolutely hated it as it was non functional and ended up returning it im hoping the vader 4 works as well as youve described cause you made it sound like a really nice option for controller users
Hey Art love the content as always. Definitely going to order this soon, but what thumbstick extender/grip are you using in the video? Currently on a series 2 controller and it has an extended thumbstick so I'll need to get something for the Vader and yours looks nice and comfortable too.
Will Flydigi be updating Apex 4 software to have the circular form for sticks? And 1000% agree that the front extra buttons should be on the sides like the Scuf Envision. Would make this an endgame controller.
I'm afraid this is something they can't do, otherwise they have already updated it. I have Apex 4 and it's a bummer that we can't have the Vadder 4 functionalities
I have an elite 2 and just bought this one. I’m kind of regretting it due to finding out the Vader 4 pro has about 15ms of stick latency which is a lot for a pro controller. We’ll see how it feels but this is the 1 major issue with this controller.
Gamepadtester doesnt want to see my Vader 4. Says connect a controller. Oh well, thought i'd check it out...but the controller is amazing, no issues. I thought it was great out of the box before I even installed the update fixing stick latency and outer deadzone! Very happy.
Do you think if keeping the software open for like you said for the keyboard binds in warzone could potentially get flagged by anti cheat/shadow bans? Because obviosuly once you open it the first time it’s always open in the background/taskmanager?? Just got mine really impressed with it so far as a fast paced sweaty warzone player
I love the fact that you go in depth with all the settings and features and explain everything thoroughly you basically sold one of these to me lol can you please do a video on the Razer Wolverine V3 pro if you get your hands on it. It's new and it looks interesting since it works on xbox as well much love ❤
@@fanatik3287im currently using the envision pro but I just bought the vader 4. My envision pro cant be overclocked, my back paddle broke after 2 months and now my Right trigger stopped working and the icue software has been a nightmare for me. Hopefully your experience has been better.
I had to go buy a new ps4 roller and connect it to my PlayStation paddles because these companies love making the left analog stick like the Xbox 😂 We need some ps4 roller love with paddles and clickynessssss
What are your thoughts on the actual latency of the sticks and buttons as shown by John Punch and Gamepadla? Seems like standard ps5 controller has less latency when overclocked
Damn bro I just ordered one of these like 3 days ago after I saw this video today, gonna cancel my order purely to support your channel and add the insurance its a no brainer. Have you tried the gulikit King Kong 3?
I have a huge problem that I think should be addressed with this controller. The resistance on the L3/R3 click when using full range of motion has made it un usable. Push all the way in any direction on one of your analog sticks and try to use the button. It becomes SIGNIFICANTLY harder to press down when the stick is in a normal position. When playing FPS games this is an important aspect with movement and completely ruins the experience. Has anyone else experienced this?
I'm really happy with this controller. I was used to the Xbox Elite Series 2. For me the Vader 4 Pro checks off a lot of things that I wished the Elite 2 had. Only thing I prefered on the Elite 2 are the padels.
Is there anyway I could get one of these to work on my PS5? Really impressed with this, the price is incredible, I'm currently using the PS Dualshock Edge & the new stick units are £30.
Nice review, I received one today. Amazing quality controller for the price but my only gripe is the controller grip, I wish they were more rounded like the dual sense and I wonder if the grip tape would fix this?
Hey there ART. Have you notice any joystick issues with your Vader 4 Pro? On the software end everything looks fine, but with BO6, the in game experience has been on and off with the joystick accuracy. Seems to loose its accuracy and almost like its bouncing around while ADS. And yes, I've tried messing with the debounce and calibration, just can't get to function properly lately. Been using it for almost 3 months, could it just be with B06? I've gone back to my PS5 controller. BTW, great video review on the controller!
aww damn that sucks to hear after i just bought this a few hours ago to try to out in warzone. all the reviews made this out to be the best gamepad for shooters. is the issue with the sticks so bad that it makes the game unplayable?
@@musek5048 im hoping its just a BO6 thing, or a simple software or game update. the Hall effect centering accuracy been on and off between games. but give it a try, im sure you'll enjoy the vader 4 pro.
@@y3eMAN just got mine in today and so far i'm loving it. the sticks feel great and i already feel and improvement in my aiming from just using the stick dials. there was an update for the dongle and controller so maybe that could be causing an issue for some. very impressed with it for now, the real test will be longevity, i've already had to replace two xbox controllers because they got really bad drift after a couple months of use which is why i looked into more premium gamepads like this one.
@@musek5048 that's wonderful to hear! I've gone through 2 xbox Elites, and 2 ps5 dual sense controllers also, and really the big reason of this purchase. Can't wait to get mines back up and running. Thanks!
What is Warzone's policy on using the fligi software macro in game? Things like turning semi auto guns full auto are clearly cheating but what about things like binding buttons to auto navigate buystations with 1 button press.
Macros are against TOS no matter how they're achieved. Mice, keyboards, and other controller have been able to do this for a long time. Don't. They can tell.
@@ArtisWar Just to be clear, as long as we stick to just remapping (1 controler input to 1 controler/keyboard output) warzone won't have any issue? Been using the vader 3 pro and considering getting the vader 4 pro later on but I want to know if warzone will consider flidigi software as cheating software even if I don't use the marco features it has. Never used any macros at all and I stick to just remapping but since warzone lets keyboards have more features like dedicated reload and prone buttons it's a bit unclear from the terms of service if this is a "competitive advantage" or if it's completely fine. It would really suck for someone to get banned even without using macros simply because the anti-cheat detects flidigi as cheat software.
Of course there is nothing said about the gyro on the controller. Is gyro a four letter word to most RUclipsrs now? Maybe it’s just me but, I cannot play any fps game without the gyro function
Really love the APEX 4, but looking forward to receiving the Vader 4 pro for the hard trigger stops, the extra buttons, and better functionality. I just wish they would have used the same grip material as the Apex 4, and I was fine paying the higher price for the better materials, I also wish they would have their own extra sticks like the Xbox Elite controllers, even if it's an add on purchase. I like the kontrol freaks but would prefer a first party solution. Definitely love that the tension is now adjust on demand instead of the tool and popping off the top half of the case.
Art, I care a lot about your opinion. I believe it would be a good idea to do a comparison between the 8Bitdo Ultimate controller and the one you mentioned here. I currently use the 8Bitdo and I haven’t had any issues for about 2 years now. Great video btw
Is it worth buying ? I have custom dualsense with Hall effect sticks, triggerstops and back buttons. Using it only for apex legends. Should I switch to this roller ?
I have had the Apex 4 for about 5 months now, still love it and is easily best controller I have ever used. However, would recommend the Vader 4 purely for the price to feature ratio, $80 is insane for what you are getting.
Can you describe a simple test to feel the effects of circularity in game? I see the test you did, and it's impressive, I'm just having a hard time distinguishing this setting on with any other pro controller. Great work and keep it up, AIW!
I'm told this feature will be added to the Apex in the future with a software update but for now, the circularity/rectangularity option is only on the Vader 4 Pro
Super helpful video I've had a tab saved for the Apex waiting to pull the trigger mostly waiting to see what aim assist will look like in BO6 because if it's the same as it is now with omni movement added on top MnK (especially with the seemingly increased reg issues this season) is going to be a dead input type for Activision games
How does the tension in the joy sticks compare to a ps5 duel sense edge? Because I currently use a duel sense edge and really like the tension but wish it was a little bit stronger.
Somehow mine has drift even after calibrating it and it showing dead center in the calibration section. No idea how this is possible but its still an incredible controller.
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UPDATE: As of 7:30p EST it seems that the pre-order status is unavailable on Amazon. Check back over the next few hours and days as I was told this was for PREORDER FIRST. Will update this post with more info when I have it.
Uploaded as soon as it became available for PREORDER on Amazon
Limited quantities of the AC edition (as I'm told by FlyDigi)!
I will also have a few to give away (both Apex and Vader models) at WSOW AND TWITCHCON!
@Artiswar how do I use my iems with this? Didn't see a headphones jack at bottom?
@@ArtisWar no update? Amazon still doesn't have
@@shaners1591 Emailed my contact at Flydigi. Will update soon.
@@caljones1383 u cant
@@KrunchTastic because i decided to argue with stupid. I’m gonna hide you from the channel after you see this :)
I bought an apex4 from your review and I’m loving it, thanks for all the great content
some sticks have broken
the stick are good yet?
@@huhnicho no issues
Love that Flydigi is always innovating in the controller industry, very refreshing, and at a great price.
Couldn't agree more!
Except for the single most important part the sticks? Not Hal effect is a non starter.
@@bighaus224 WDYM, it has hall effects already
@@PeytonRobinson did he not say "analog sticks" with "sensors" in the video? maybe I missed something?
@@PeytonRobinson Nvm. I didn't watch far enough. Fell asleep watching. Hal effect!
I feel so scammed, I went and bought a PS5 edge for PC 5 months back, and they have absolutly nothing so advanced. Thought there would be controler modules for replacement, but those are always out of stock. The Vader 4 Pro is so user oriented, they know exactly what gamers need for different genres of games. Hope they keep the focus on their products. I might have to treat myself for christmas again. Really nice review as well.
the sticks are better on the edge for shooters, but thats it.
@@maxvader1000 yep. But Flydigi is the clear winner with native support to work with windows, comes with 1000 hz polling rate without haveing to use external software, and I am sure with the tension adjustable stick, most would find their preferred tension. And It comes at half the cost of an edge controller, whose replacement controller modules are going for the price of a Gamesir controller.
@@anandj5453 for me the Vader 4 Pro is a 1/3 of the price ($100 vs $300 in my currency), it's not even a contest at that point.
i was just thinking about selling my elite 2 and buy a new controller , im gonna buy this one , you conviced me , big fan here , keep up the good work brother
I thought it couldn't get better than the Vader3. I was wrong. The 4 is MAGNIFICENT.
Mannnn i had this controller for about two weeks and didn’t notice anything about these settings good video 💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿
Glad to hear it
Would be an instant buy for me if it was a ps5 layout. Also the position of back buttons aren't my favorite, but to each their own!
I’ve never used an Xbox layout until I switched to this. Instantly was used to it and if anything it’s more comfortable. My scuf reflex fps and those paddle placements actually feel weird to me now. I’ll never buy another scuf again. You’re selling if those are your reasons for not trying it especially for $80
@@killshot3331 I tried the apex 4, and I really hated the big gap in between the back buttons. Coming from a scuff reflex, I just love how the back paddles are connected and I don’t actually have to shift my middle fingers in order to press them.
@@Dangerrd Yeah I didn’t like them at first but you get used to them. The grip tape for the paddles is a must otherwise they were too slick and clunky to use. Love them now and haven’t touched my scuf since
Just got mine! thanks for the review and going over the options!
Man hit us with that rectangularity 😂
Pre ordering mine can’t wait to get it !
Anyone got an EU amazing link ?
@@mcgameing1 Ordered mine from GadgetHyper. Had no problems and delivery was very quick
Got the controller in about a week ago and this is genuinely the best controller I’ve ever used. Was worried about the rear button placement but they are placed in the perfect position. It’s reminds me of a better version of scufs rear buttons.
I’ve had this controller for a couple of weeks now, won’t go back to any other controller. Buy the stick on grip tape and it feels better than any other controller I’ve used (just about been through them all at this point). 0 0 dead zone feels amazing too
hey do you prefer apex 4 or vader 4?
Which grip tape should I buy for the Vader 4 Pro?
@@shaners1591 personally i prefer the vader 4 pro for fps games. the haptic triggers are something I can live without on the Apex 4 and I dont love the screen either.
As an owner of both controllers as well as many other Pro controllers I wholeheartedly agree the vader 4 Pro takes it to a new level. It's like my secret weapon in war zone.
hey do you prefer apex 4 or vader 4?
@@shaners1591 vader 4
what "pro" controllers do you have if you dont mind me asking? ive been looking into getting a Nagashock or battle beaver but this might add another option to the list, just not a fan of Xbox stick placement.
@@M1N3RDOM i have had a cinch, scufs, both version of the xbox elite, gamesir g7 se, apex 4 , vader 4 and a ds edge
Cabe you dolphin dive and slide cancel in different paddles ?
was expecting like 200$ price but I am really impressed! Solid Sticks!
Ty 4 video, bro
Bought it from Ali less then 40$ in Russia, can’t wait to get it
I have the Vader for 2 months and love it thanks for sharing
just bought it :) i can't wait !! ill have it just in time for BO6 early acces :D !! thank you great content !!
I was waiting for August 10. This is an awesome surprise!
good content as usual! I got my 4 PRO today, first plunder game I got 21 kills and was accused of hacking by team of 4 that me and my buddy were farming. The tension rings are awesome!
4pro + Art sound is the shit! 👏🏻
Could we get a best console controller video? Elite Series 2 feels horrible compared to the Dualsense Edge but I have to play on XBOX now.
Just came in an hour ago works amazingly with the xbox and the goku usb adapter the difference between this and the elite 2 is crazyy this one is way more responsive and in my opinion way better in every way!
using the goku with this controller on the xbox is it easy to set-up just switch both to Bluetooth and go ? and do u find any latency issues
@@haydenwilson6852 you have to connect the goku with a normal xbox controller set the vader 4 pro on bluetooth and thats it no latency at all ive been cooking people in warzone like never before lol;
Just bought the Apex 4 and love it but should I have got this one 🙈
I purchased and tried to use the Apex 4 controller you recommended but I could not get over the back button placement. I can easily use all 4 back paddles using different fingers for each on Xbox's Elite controller, but the Apex and Vader back button placement doesn't allow for that :/ I liked the Apex 4 in all other aspects but that was a dealbreaker for me
There are some 3d printables mods online some for free, look for it tell me if it works
I have an elite 2 because of how perfect the paddles are but want the Apex 4 because of the polling rate. I’d look up “apex 4 paddles” there’s people online who sell paddles for them on Etsy. You have to take the controller apart but there’s guides online and the end result seems to be very similar to the elite 2 paddles.
You miss the most important part is how do you get the keyboard buttons to work on COD, doesn't read some of those keys. Was anyone able to connect other than ABYX?
Thumbs up for everything except for the position of the back paddle buttons. I like the standard 4 paddle button positions.
Exactly bro, when u play fps game u gonna need soft left stick and hard right stick, i have to use foam ring to do it on my controllers but it make the stick cant go max range, it's quiet ok coz i alway play with verry high sensi but with this stick, u dont need foam ring anymore and becoz u can go max range on right stick, u have more options for right stick sensi !
W vid, Art. Easily of the the most helpful creators in the CoD space right now.
Hi ArtisWar, i bought this controller. I used to play CoD on MnK all the time, but I recently switched to controller. It will take a long time before i get comfortable with it though. First game i played with the Vader 4 pro i dropped 45 kills. :)
Just ordered one of these and the grip take, just sending the Razer Wolverine 3 Pro back as I didnt like the dead zones on it, they missed with it as everything else was good
Finally, someone who understands competitive FPS games reviews these controllers.
Holy, what a controller. Congrats the the Xbox layout lovers. If only it was PS layout... this would be the endgame controller...
Yep wtf are they thinking ima have to get the envision I guess I was hoping they'd make a ps layout
I've never used an Xbox layout until I tried this. Instantly was used to it and if anything it's more comfortable.
My scuf reflex fps actually feels weird to me now and no no longer gets used. You're selling if that’s your only reason for not trying it especially for $80
@@killshot3331 see I’m the exact opposite. I used the Xbox layout for years, then switched to the PS5 scuf. Now I can’t go back because I love the PS layout so much better. I use the Apex 4 for almost 3 weeks, played awful with it back to back days, switched back to my PS5 scuf, and immediately went on an eight game win streak on COD MP ranked with a 1.35 KD. I can’t say it was for sure the controller but it just feels so much better
@Teddward same i got the instinct pro and then got a PC so wanted to try the ps and got the impact fps and then the reflex fps and can't go back honestly I love the ps4 layout better but def couldn't go back to xbox I tried and hated it idk it just feels to off for me
@@Teddward Lol yeah it’s crazy how that works. It’s definitely placebo effect because you have the skill but you should obviously use what feels most comfortable to you. My comment is towards the people knocking it before they tried it which I now know you have. Still interesting either way
the controller is absolutely great, but the position for the C and Z should be other, may be like wolverine v3 pro (close to the triggers) or scuf envision pro (on the left and right side of the controller), so you can remap those and use them in FPS game without release the right and left sticks, BUT FOR FIGHTING GAMES ARE GREAT....
saw this video yesterday and decided that since i needed a new controller anyway i might as well give this company another shot as i ended up buying the vader 3 and absolutely hated it as it was non functional and ended up returning it im hoping the vader 4 works as well as youve described cause you made it sound like a really nice option for controller users
Hey Art love the content as always. Definitely going to order this soon, but what thumbstick extender/grip are you using in the video? Currently on a series 2 controller and it has an extended thumbstick so I'll need to get something for the Vader and yours looks nice and comfortable too.
Will Flydigi be updating Apex 4 software to have the circular form for sticks?
And 1000% agree that the front extra buttons should be on the sides like the Scuf Envision. Would make this an endgame controller.
Man I hope the apex 4 gets this setting being there most expensive controller
I'm afraid this is something they can't do, otherwise they have already updated it. I have Apex 4 and it's a bummer that we can't have the Vadder 4 functionalities
ps4 ps5 variant plz thats all i want for Christmas.
I have an elite 2 and just bought this one. I’m kind of regretting it due to finding out the Vader 4 pro has about 15ms of stick latency which is a lot for a pro controller. We’ll see how it feels but this is the 1 major issue with this controller.
Gamepadtester doesnt want to see my Vader 4. Says connect a controller. Oh well, thought i'd check it out...but the controller is amazing, no issues. I thought it was great out of the box before I even installed the update fixing stick latency and outer deadzone! Very happy.
Should I get the one to save money from scuf envasion? Tempted.
Very good and detailed review. Special thanks from John Punch for the link to gamepadla in the description.
Wish they would give us paddle options like the elite series. These back buttons simply don’t work for me with the way I hold my controller
@ 14:00 WHAT THUMBSTICK GRIP IS THAT? I need!!!
Someone please come through! I need these lol
Sameee
Apparently the LiveZone 3d Printed Snap On topper. ArtisWar commented on the same question like a 150 comments below this one.
Someone help me out! Haha. I found one on Etsy that looks similar I think. Where do you get these thumbstick grips?? @artiswar
Do you think if keeping the software open for like you said for the keyboard binds in warzone could potentially get flagged by anti cheat/shadow bans? Because obviosuly once you open it the first time it’s always open in the background/taskmanager?? Just got mine really impressed with it so far as a fast paced sweaty warzone player
I love the fact that you go in depth with all the settings and features and explain everything thoroughly you basically sold one of these to me lol
can you please do a video on the Razer Wolverine V3 pro if you get your hands on it. It's new and it looks interesting since it works on xbox as well
much love ❤
This company needs to make a PS4 style controller PLEASE 🥺
For real thats the only thing keeping me from switching from the envision pro
@@fanatik3287 i was on a ps layout forever and switching was pretty easy, the aim stick is still in the same spot
@@fanatik3287im currently using the envision pro but I just bought the vader 4. My envision pro cant be overclocked, my back paddle broke after 2 months and now my Right trigger stopped working and the icue software has been a nightmare for me. Hopefully your experience has been better.
I had to go buy a new ps4 roller and connect it to my PlayStation paddles because these companies love making the left analog stick like the Xbox 😂
We need some ps4 roller love with paddles and clickynessssss
Gulikit is making a ps style controller
What are your thoughts on the actual latency of the sticks and buttons as shown by John Punch and Gamepadla? Seems like standard ps5 controller has less latency when overclocked
Oohweee mine comes tomorrow!
Damn bro I just ordered one of these like 3 days ago after I saw this video today, gonna cancel my order purely to support your channel and add the insurance its a no brainer.
Have you tried the gulikit King Kong 3?
been waiting for this review...
I have a huge problem that I think should be addressed with this controller. The resistance on the L3/R3 click when using full range of motion has made it un usable.
Push all the way in any direction on one of your analog sticks and try to use the button. It becomes SIGNIFICANTLY harder to press down when the stick is in a normal position.
When playing FPS games this is an important aspect with movement and completely ruins the experience.
Has anyone else experienced this?
Thanks for the vid fam
I ordered mine today, I'm curious !!! I'm using now, the Xbox elite series controller!!! So hope this one is better !!!
I'm really happy with this controller. I was used to the Xbox Elite Series 2. For me the Vader 4 Pro checks off a lot of things that I wished the Elite 2 had. Only thing I prefered on the Elite 2 are the padels.
are those additional settings on the joysticks available for the apex 4? i never noticed it in the software.
Art, great video! Can you drop a link to the Control Freaks you are using?
Is there anyway I could get one of these to work on my PS5? Really impressed with this, the price is incredible, I'm currently using the PS Dualshock Edge & the new stick units are £30.
C and Z up top, like Razer has, for pinging would be HUGE.
Nice review, I received one today. Amazing quality controller for the price but my only gripe is the controller grip, I wish they were more rounded like the dual sense and I wonder if the grip tape would fix this?
Great videos man 😂
apex 4 or vader 4? I need to buy one of them soon
If you found the answer, you'll warn us
@@Hery_YT huh?
Will they allow the C and Z buttons to be mapped on the Apex 4? I could really use one of those for push to talk.
Hey there ART. Have you notice any joystick issues with your Vader 4 Pro? On the software end everything looks fine, but with BO6, the in game experience has been on and off with the joystick accuracy. Seems to loose its accuracy and almost like its bouncing around while ADS. And yes, I've tried messing with the debounce and calibration, just can't get to function properly lately. Been using it for almost 3 months, could it just be with B06? I've gone back to my PS5 controller. BTW, great video review on the controller!
aww damn that sucks to hear after i just bought this a few hours ago to try to out in warzone. all the reviews made this out to be the best gamepad for shooters. is the issue with the sticks so bad that it makes the game unplayable?
@@musek5048 im hoping its just a BO6 thing, or a simple software or game update. the Hall effect centering accuracy been on and off between games. but give it a try, im sure you'll enjoy the vader 4 pro.
@@y3eMAN just got mine in today and so far i'm loving it. the sticks feel great and i already feel and improvement in my aiming from just using the stick dials. there was an update for the dongle and controller so maybe that could be causing an issue for some. very impressed with it for now, the real test will be longevity, i've already had to replace two xbox controllers because they got really bad drift after a couple months of use which is why i looked into more premium gamepads like this one.
@@musek5048 that's wonderful to hear! I've gone through 2 xbox Elites, and 2 ps5 dual sense controllers also, and really the big reason of this purchase. Can't wait to get mines back up and running. Thanks!
What is Warzone's policy on using the fligi software macro in game? Things like turning semi auto guns full auto are clearly cheating but what about things like binding buttons to auto navigate buystations with 1 button press.
Macros are against TOS no matter how they're achieved. Mice, keyboards, and other controller have been able to do this for a long time.
Don't. They can tell.
@@ArtisWar Just to be clear, as long as we stick to just remapping (1 controler input to 1 controler/keyboard output) warzone won't have any issue? Been using the vader 3 pro and considering getting the vader 4 pro later on but I want to know if warzone will consider flidigi software as cheating software even if I don't use the marco features it has. Never used any macros at all and I stick to just remapping but since warzone lets keyboards have more features like dedicated reload and prone buttons it's a bit unclear from the terms of service if this is a "competitive advantage" or if it's completely fine. It would really suck for someone to get banned even without using macros simply because the anti-cheat detects flidigi as cheat software.
@@l_ECL1PSE_l no issue with 3 month of playing on flydigi controller, 4 months of envision play no issues. With keyboard binds.
Great video! Do you mind sharing what kontrolfreek you had attached in this video? Never seen that one before
I think he has the talon grip tape on top of the kf
So which one should I buy regardless of price, Apex 4 or this Vader?
Vader 4 pro imo. Apex feels a bit more premium, but Vader 4 has the better features and it's cheaper!
The best roller ive ever used. way better than my bs custom scuff like for like 400
Of course there is nothing said about the gyro on the controller. Is gyro a four letter word to most RUclipsrs now? Maybe it’s just me but, I cannot play any fps game without the gyro function
It is 100p just you.
Thanks Art! When you start hiring a team I will be first in line!
Really love the APEX 4, but looking forward to receiving the Vader 4 pro for the hard trigger stops, the extra buttons, and better functionality. I just wish they would have used the same grip material as the Apex 4, and I was fine paying the higher price for the better materials, I also wish they would have their own extra sticks like the Xbox Elite controllers, even if it's an add on purchase. I like the kontrol freaks but would prefer a first party solution. Definitely love that the tension is now adjust on demand instead of the tool and popping off the top half of the case.
Art, I care a lot about your opinion. I believe it would be a good idea to do a comparison between the 8Bitdo Ultimate controller and the one you mentioned here. I currently use the 8Bitdo and I haven’t had any issues for about 2 years now. Great video btw
Great Review and Video 🙂 i love my vader 4 pro...you have a new subscribeer for sure 👍
Digi 4 is great but hard to get use to the back LT RT to not being pressed right away
Is it worth buying ? I have custom dualsense with Hall effect sticks, triggerstops and back buttons. Using it only for apex legends. Should I switch to this roller ?
Perfect video Art 🔥🔥
Hey 👋🏻 what's best for you? Apex 4 or this one?
Can you explain/show how to set up an Auto Ping macro for the right trigger please?
I have had the Apex 4 for about 5 months now, still love it and is easily best controller I have ever used. However, would recommend the Vader 4 purely for the price to feature ratio, $80 is insane for what you are getting.
Can you describe a simple test to feel the effects of circularity in game? I see the test you did, and it's impressive, I'm just having a hard time distinguishing this setting on with any other pro controller.
Great work and keep it up, AIW!
The more expensive Apex 4 should get the new joystick settings aswell, if it is not hardware limitated
I'm told this feature will be added to the Apex in the future with a software update but for now, the circularity/rectangularity option is only on the Vader 4 Pro
@ArtisWar man I hope so bought the apex 4 before seeing this video and was disappointed to not see any of these settings
damn they kept thesame button setup for the back, unfortunate
Can they please stack the back buttons vertically instead of horizontally? Pleaseee
Please talk them into making a symmetrical controller. I feel like I get arthritis on my left pointer finger other than that the controller is great
the gambit victrix is better ? input lag 5x faster
What did you put your deadzones to in COD, ive been using zero but thinking of moving to 3?
That tension control is way better
How is the latency?!
Do you recommend me plugging my kiwi orchestra lites to my a40 mixamp or my motherboard
Super helpful video I've had a tab saved for the Apex waiting to pull the trigger mostly waiting to see what aim assist will look like in BO6 because if it's the same as it is now with omni movement added on top MnK (especially with the seemingly increased reg issues this season) is going to be a dead input type for Activision games
How does the tension in the joy sticks compare to a ps5 duel sense edge? Because I currently use a duel sense edge and really like the tension but wish it was a little bit stronger.
price definitely going up after hype
Do any of the flydigi controller have button sequence mapping or are they just single button mapping?
wait these aren't hall triggers? would these triggers not last as long as the sticks?
Hey art! where can i get the "kotrol Freek" that you are using?? THANK U!
How are they not listing this on amazon canada tho 😢 the old controller wasnt listed either
looks nice! doesnt look super simplistic like they do now. i like the way they did the bumpers and triggers
i just wish they would make the controller in Playstation button layout
Dang I just bought the apex but I wish I would have waited for the Vader for the mouse switch triggers
Somehow mine has drift even after calibrating it and it showing dead center in the calibration section. No idea how this is possible but its still an incredible controller.
Can you over clock it?????
Should test phantom controller for ps5. I like edge but it’s so heavy and wanna try phantom but $259 is tough just to try.