Great overview. I concur with your thoughts on Todoist. It is enticing when you look at the package, but those downsides loom large once you start using it. I was surprised when they recently fixed how they handle repeating tasks and sub-tasks-which were a huge negative until that point. So, perhaps there is hope for the future. Allowing a user to adjust density might take away that objection. Cultured Code, please take note of the Kanban Boards, integrations, and ability for filtering (i.e. saved searches), and the ability to have more depth!
I changed to Todoist fairly recently having tried most of the others, and it suits me perfectly - I’ve even managed to import my Google calendar events for each day. I’ve never managed to get location-based reminders to work though!
That's the Things clone setup in Todoist. Good to know that You're still with things, as Todoist violates one of the Golden Akkies Five rules on choosing task managers: no start dates. Often requested but avoided by the devs ever since. Todoist has a couple of advantages. Depending on your needs, it might make it valuable despite missing start dates. Still love the clarity you manage to communicate about features the app. Great job, Peter!
I had to check my calendar to confirm it was March and not April 1st :) Great video as always Peter! Thank you for making something for the folks that need a cross-platform task manager.
The only thing holding me back from switching from Things 3 to todoist is the start date / deadline thing. Also the repeating tasks was kind of strange. At home I’m living in a Apple eco system, at work there’s only Windows, so I have to use my phone with things at work. Would be great to see Things 3 on the web, or if Todoist would add the lacking features.
Yeah. Unfortunately I wouldn’t hold my breath for either Things on the web or start dates in Todoist. Things relies so heavily on Apple tech that isn’t available for the web. And the Todoist CEO doesn’t seem keen on adding start dates. So we face a trade-off! It’s why I use Things. But I understand the frustration about having to use Things at work on your phone.
@@PeterAkkies hey, first of all thank you for these kind of both motivational and informative videos. Its fun to watch. You have a great style for explaining things, you have an good prepared outline, good examples etc. To get to the main point, can subtasks be used for start date alternative? I believe, you didn't mention this in any of your videos. I'm sure, I'm not the only one come up with this idea. But did you ever consider/use this? I would like to hear your thoughts. thank you
@@buuras Hey Buğra. Thanks for your kind words. That’s an interesting idea. I probably wouldn’t do it that way myself, because it feels clunkier than writing the hard deadline in the notes, but it’s certainly worth trying to see whether it works for you.
Great video , Peter, however, I enrolled in to the Thing 3 course and Things 3 wins hands down over Todoist. It is so much more aesthetically pleasing as well as smarter
I'm impressed with Todoist as well Peter. Once you have some useful filters set up you can tidy some of the views. Taking the best of Things 3 and Todoist would give us an awesome task manager. I think Doist have said they'll never implement a 'when' date.
i love things but at work i unfortunately have to get used to todoist, i don't always want to take my ipad to work. the biggest weak point of todoist compared to things: the lack of the "when do i want to do the task" button. even if there is a deadline, i don't want to do the task that day, as you already showed in your video. this makes things clearly better.
For personal tasks I find Todoist better... the input is much better and faster and the interface is cleaner. But for projects it's completely different... the deadline in Things is fantastic and also how the progress is displayed. The lack of a start date in Todoist is a real drawback for projects. The directly displayed calendar deadlines are very good, 2-Way Sync like in Todoist would be great of course.... but I don't want to have my tasks in the calendar, for me that's not such an important criterion. Things is also much cheaper! I paid something around 50€, that's for the Mac and iOS version - a one-time payment! With Todoist I've been paying around 36€ each year (the new prices are even higher, around 48€). Peter, what are your main reasons for continuing to use Things 3?
Thanks Frank. I agree with much of what you say. As for what app I use-I switch back and forth a lot now, because I want to stay current on all the apps I teach.
Do you mirror all of them, i.e. have the same ones in Todoist and Things3 or are these only demo tasks for videos, seminars etc. and your "real" tasks are all in Things3?
No, I haven’t changed which to-do app I use. But I‘ve been increasingly impressed by Todoist and it is great for many people. There are a few serious downsides to Todoist though. So hear me out…
I am a long time user of Todoist and also a fan of GTD. However, lately I have found some of the concepts of GTD organization to be cumbersome, (i.e., Context views), especially with the cross platform availability of so many tools now. I also have Things 3 but my company utilizes PCs and so the inability to integrate is a deal breaker. Therefore, I would love to see a Best Practices course implementing your productivity methods utilizing Todoist. Bottom line: I really enjoy your “to the point” delivery and your logical, sequential, road map is easy to follow.
I am actually migrating from Things 3 to Todoist. While I love the looks of Things 3, there are repeating tasks that I just could not get to work in Things, and I often want to attach files which I cannot do in Things. Lastly, I love the Todoist integration with my job’s M365. My perfect app would be Todoist features with Things 3 look and feel. :)
That makes a lot of sense, Dan. I also love the file attachments feature in Todoist. And yes, integration with the tools you use at work is a huge plus! Let’s see how Things will develop in the future.
Thanks a lot for the helpful review Really exciting ) My personal Todoist Pros: + UX/UI design (plain, convenient, soft, and stable) + Environment (they have an extensive and robust library of knowledge about how to GTD, led projects, etc.) + accessibility (across all platforms and devices) + support Todoist cons - first and significant drawback: you can't simply see completed tasks on today's view (yep, they have another way, but it isn't very easy). Why do they hide motivation? - no flexibility: for ex. subtasks are showing like separate tasks in the board view (but if you have dozen of the parent tasks with hundreds of subtasks it looks like a mess) Yep development team doing a great job, but when competitors provide simple solutions, Todoist years remain conservative But, despite all of the drawbacks, if you have the intention to Doing Things Done, Todoist is the powerful tool, which definitely helps you
Thank you for the kind comment! You’re right, the Doist team has lots of good productivity resources out there. I also agree that subtasks in Todoist can get messy.
No Mac or iPhone so Todoist is my to-do list of choice. I can confirm the widgets on Android can be customized and are interactive allowing function without opening the app
Great and useful video, Peter, I’ve been considering switching from the Things three for a number of reasons primarily my need to be able to integrate into one platform, three calendars worth of stuff to do and be able to have an integrated surface for that. What do you think of Susanna for this?
Would you really add a "Leave a tip for housekeeper" task to your todo list? I know it is for demo but it would be good to cover in another video, what actually should you put in your todo list vs. keep in your mind. I mean if you forget to tip housekeeper it is not really that important - you spend energy and time to put and organise that task from there so you wouldn't put, "go to toilet" or "Brush your teeth" there. You just do.
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Great overview. I concur with your thoughts on Todoist. It is enticing when you look at the package, but those downsides loom large once you start using it. I was surprised when they recently fixed how they handle repeating tasks and sub-tasks-which were a huge negative until that point. So, perhaps there is hope for the future. Allowing a user to adjust density might take away that objection. Cultured Code, please take note of the Kanban Boards, integrations, and ability for filtering (i.e. saved searches), and the ability to have more depth!
I changed to Todoist fairly recently having tried most of the others, and it suits me perfectly - I’ve even managed to import my Google calendar events for each day. I’ve never managed to get location-based reminders to work though!
That's the Things clone setup in Todoist. Good to know that You're still with things, as Todoist violates one of the Golden Akkies Five rules on choosing task managers: no start dates. Often requested but avoided by the devs ever since. Todoist has a couple of advantages. Depending on your needs, it might make it valuable despite missing start dates. Still love the clarity you manage to communicate about features the app. Great job, Peter!
Thankyou - I was wondering about this app. After watching this, I think I'll stick with Things 3 and your course workflow with Remind App to augment.
I had to check my calendar to confirm it was March and not April 1st :) Great video as always Peter! Thank you for making something for the folks that need a cross-platform task manager.
Hahaha 😂 I tried so hard to be nuanced and not worry people
Thanks for this thought I was missing something. They really need to give us an old fashioned way of setting recurring tasks.
The only thing holding me back from switching from Things 3 to todoist is the start date / deadline thing. Also the repeating tasks was kind of strange. At home I’m living in a Apple eco system, at work there’s only Windows, so I have to use my phone with things at work. Would be great to see Things 3 on the web, or if Todoist would add the lacking features.
Yeah. Unfortunately I wouldn’t hold my breath for either Things on the web or start dates in Todoist. Things relies so heavily on Apple tech that isn’t available for the web. And the Todoist CEO doesn’t seem keen on adding start dates. So we face a trade-off! It’s why I use Things. But I understand the frustration about having to use Things at work on your phone.
@@PeterAkkies hey, first of all thank you for these kind of both motivational and informative videos. Its fun to watch. You have a great style for explaining things, you have an good prepared outline, good examples etc.
To get to the main point, can subtasks be used for start date alternative? I believe, you didn't mention this in any of your videos. I'm sure, I'm not the only one come up with this idea. But did you ever consider/use this? I would like to hear your thoughts. thank you
@@buuras Hey Buğra. Thanks for your kind words. That’s an interesting idea. I probably wouldn’t do it that way myself, because it feels clunkier than writing the hard deadline in the notes, but it’s certainly worth trying to see whether it works for you.
Great video , Peter, however, I enrolled in to the Thing 3 course and Things 3 wins hands down over Todoist. It is so much more aesthetically pleasing as well as smarter
I'm impressed with Todoist as well Peter. Once you have some useful filters set up you can tidy some of the views. Taking the best of Things 3 and Todoist would give us an awesome task manager. I think Doist have said they'll never implement a 'when' date.
Yeah I had a brief back-and-forth about that with the Doist CEO and he said it would be a complex addition, so it doesn’t sound likely. Such a shame.
I think tha locations based reminders is the thing that makes iOS reminders or Todoist the best choice
i love things but at work i unfortunately have to get used to todoist, i don't always want to take my ipad to work. the biggest weak point of todoist compared to things: the lack of the "when do i want to do the task" button. even if there is a deadline, i don't want to do the task that day, as you already showed in your video. this makes things clearly better.
A Todoist course would be much appreciated
Would love a organization tutorial!
I just found your channel and I’ve been on a binge haha
Well done, Peter. Thanks. I think I will stay with Things3 and Apple Notes.
Hi Peter, i missed the explaining of sections in projects 🙂. But great vid! Thx!
For personal tasks I find Todoist better... the input is much better and faster and the interface is cleaner. But for projects it's completely different... the deadline in Things is fantastic and also how the progress is displayed. The lack of a start date in Todoist is a real drawback for projects.
The directly displayed calendar deadlines are very good, 2-Way Sync like in Todoist would be great of course.... but I don't want to have my tasks in the calendar, for me that's not such an important criterion.
Things is also much cheaper! I paid something around 50€, that's for the Mac and iOS version - a one-time payment! With Todoist I've been paying around 36€ each year (the new prices are even higher, around 48€).
Peter, what are your main reasons for continuing to use Things 3?
Thanks Frank. I agree with much of what you say. As for what app I use-I switch back and forth a lot now, because I want to stay current on all the apps I teach.
Do you mirror all of them, i.e. have the same ones in Todoist and Things3 or are these only demo tasks for videos, seminars etc. and your "real" tasks are all in Things3?
Would love for you to put together a course on todoist and also how to build a second brain
No, I haven’t changed which to-do app I use. But I‘ve been increasingly impressed by Todoist and it is great for many people. There are a few serious downsides to Todoist though. So hear me out…
You’ll be cheering for Mercedes F1 next … 😊
@@meeluanistyn1644 Zero chance! Hahahahahah
Which to-do app are you using right now?
@@zafuranfrio Things 3!
I am a long time user of Todoist and also a fan of GTD. However, lately I have found some of the concepts of GTD organization to be cumbersome, (i.e., Context views), especially with the cross platform availability of so many tools now. I also have Things 3 but my company utilizes PCs and so the inability to integrate is a deal breaker. Therefore, I would love to see a Best Practices course implementing your productivity methods utilizing Todoist. Bottom line: I really enjoy your “to the point” delivery and your logical, sequential, road map is easy to follow.
I may or may not be working on a Todoist course at the moment, Jim!
@@PeterAkkies Cool, I may or may not be excited to hear that. 🤣
I am actually migrating from Things 3 to Todoist. While I love the looks of Things 3, there are repeating tasks that I just could not get to work in Things, and I often want to attach files which I cannot do in Things. Lastly, I love the Todoist integration with my job’s M365. My perfect app would be Todoist features with Things 3 look and feel. :)
That makes a lot of sense, Dan. I also love the file attachments feature in Todoist. And yes, integration with the tools you use at work is a huge plus! Let’s see how Things will develop in the future.
Thanks a lot for the helpful review
Really exciting )
My personal
Todoist Pros:
+ UX/UI design (plain, convenient, soft, and stable)
+ Environment (they have an extensive and robust library of knowledge about how to GTD, led projects, etc.)
+ accessibility (across all platforms and devices)
+ support
Todoist cons
- first and significant drawback: you can't simply see completed tasks on today's view (yep, they have another way, but it isn't very easy). Why do they hide motivation?
- no flexibility: for ex. subtasks are showing like separate tasks in the board view (but if you have dozen of the parent tasks with hundreds of subtasks it looks like a mess)
Yep development team doing a great job, but when competitors provide simple solutions, Todoist years remain conservative
But, despite all of the drawbacks, if you have the intention to Doing Things Done, Todoist is the powerful tool, which definitely helps you
Thank you for the kind comment! You’re right, the Doist team has lots of good productivity resources out there. I also agree that subtasks in Todoist can get messy.
@@PeterAkkies And another drawback of Tosoiat is the absence of an embedded calendar
Great video Peter but you convinced me to use Things 3 a couple of months ago and I will not change my mind now!! :D
Nor should you :)
No Mac or iPhone so Todoist is my to-do list of choice. I can confirm the widgets on Android can be customized and are interactive allowing function without opening the app
I figured that might be the case. Thanks for letting me know!
I actually use Todolist. Thanks for the video Peter
Thank you!
I have tried several times. Always come back to reminders which is more integrated in Apple ecosystem.
Great and useful video, Peter, I’ve been considering switching from the Things three for a number of reasons primarily my need to be able to integrate into one platform, three calendars worth of stuff to do and be able to have an integrated surface for that. What do you think of Susanna for this?
I’m planning to check out Sunsama soon. Usually I don’t love integrated apps so let’s see
I'd go with Things 3 myself but I am on Windows and Things 3 will not or ever support windows :( So I use Todoist.
Seems to be a killer to have everything done on the “due date.” Any workaround that’s acceptable?
I think you can replace "start date" by adding reminder on the date of your choice.
Nah, not the same. It doesn’t make the task show up under Today. And doesn’t work with the calendar integrations.
How did you add the “completed” section on the left?
Settings -> Sidebar
Would you really add a "Leave a tip for housekeeper" task to your todo list? I know it is for demo but it would be good to cover in another video, what actually should you put in your todo list vs. keep in your mind. I mean if you forget to tip housekeeper it is not really that important - you spend energy and time to put and organise that task from there so you wouldn't put, "go to toilet" or "Brush your teeth" there. You just do.
I would, yes, until it becomes a habit. Once it’s a habit, it’s no longer necessary.
I tried it for a while, but went back to Things. No other app beats it UI and design.
Totally agree
Did you say “chào” - a Vietnamese word at the end of the video?
No I said “ciao”, the Italian word! What does the Vietnamese word mean?
@@PeterAkkies what a coincidence! It also means “Hi” or “Bye” depending on the time you say it. Haha 😁
I'm thinking on paying for the premium tbh!
Have you tried Ticktick?