Testing inexpensive CNC machine Genmitsu PROVerXL 4030 / Sainsmart. Is it possible to make inlay?

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  • Опубликовано: 12 окт 2020
  • We have received questions on could an inexpensive CNC machine be capable of making inlay cutting boards?
    Our friends over at Sainsmart provided us their new machine to test this idea.
    In this video, we are testing the Sainsmart PROVerXL 4030 benchtop CNC ( shrsl.com/2jzcl ) configured with a Dewalt DWP611 router ( amzn.to/2SOFV1I ).
    The answer is definitely yes!
    Inlay's can be made on an inexpensive machine like the PROVerXL . However, like all equipment, one should carefully approach the choice of machine they purchase, and based on their technical needs and recognize there will be initial setup that can require specific skills to get the best results.
    The PROverXL is well suited for a small workshop and smaller projects with its 400 x 300mm work area.
    If you want a custom board please email us broinwood@gmail.com
    For orders go to broinwood.com/pages/custom
    Check out our instagram page / broinwood
    Here some stuff which I use in my workshop and really love it.
    Maybe it will be useful for you.
    Definitely recommend this Oil and Wax for cutting board:
    amzn.to/36ytyi1
    amzn.to/3nrAPGL
    My glue:
    amzn.to/3jyVMNu (really love it)
    Double-Sided Duct Tape:
    amzn.to/33ANxen (It holds blank well, but anyway, I also use screws.)
    My Random Orbit Sanders I love how they work but they get a little dusty:
    amzn.to/36u5mxs
    amzn.to/3d1oNiv
    Makita 3/4-Inch ID/1-OD diameter by 10-Foot Hose
    amzn.to/33uGmnS
    My Sanding Disc (for me they are the best!!!):
    3M Cubitron II
    amzn.to/2SrnAHs (80 and 120 grit)
    amzn.to/2SqlvvH (150 grit)
    amzn.to/3nksyUQ (220 grit)
    amzn.to/2GriKaZ (320 grit)
    My router bits which I use a lot:
    Standard Spiral Bit with Down Cut 1/8-Inch Cutting Diameter
    amzn.to/3izKXcF
    15 Degree v bit (be careful easy to breake down)
    amzn.to/3izLyLr
    Round Nose Bit with 3/8-Inch Radius, 3/4-Inch Cutting Diameter and 1-1/4-Inch Cutting Length
    amzn.to/2SsZYlV (I use it for juice groove)
    1/2-Inch Dia. 2 Flute Ball Nose Spiral End Mill Router Bit
    amzn.to/33v99Zm (I use it for juice groove)
    Spiral Flush Trim Bit with Down Cut and 1/2-Inch Cutting Diameter
    amzn.to/2SsB8m7
    Three Flute with Spiral Bit 1/2-Inch Cutting Diameter and 2-Inch Cutting Length
    amzn.to/2HTgwkV (I use it for flatining surface and makining cutting board shape)
    Spiral Bit with Up Cut 1/4-Inch Cutting Diameter and 1-Inch Cutting Length
    amzn.to/36u2Hns (I use it for cut off inlays. it doesn't make chips.)
    My Collet Set:
    amzn.to/33xbO4X
    My DEWALT Plate Joiner:
    amzn.to/33xtkWQ (it is not bad and not good it is ok)
    My Bandsaw Blade it is inexpensive and cut well:
    amzn.to/34uKNy8
    Hi,
    My name is Nik. Welcome to my channel, where you can see my woodworking: cutting boards with inlay from different types of wood, wood maps, key hangers and more. I often use CNC machine for my works, I love using it. I’m going to share my videos every week.
    Thank you for visiting my channel. I appreciate your likes and subscriptions!
    Sincerely,
    Nik.
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Комментарии • 90

  • @jonsaircond8520
    @jonsaircond8520 3 года назад +13

    This proves how much the talent behind the machine matters. Love the videos it is definitely a inspiration

  • @marcmorton6342
    @marcmorton6342 3 года назад +4

    Thank you very much. Your work is amazing. I was on the fence about this machine but now I'm buying it

  • @iaidoman
    @iaidoman 3 года назад +9

    I have to be honest guys. you have inspired me so much with your videos that I have just spent $2300 on my first cnc machine. I will start to do stuff like this for veterans, But small stuff first. Thank you for sharing these videos with mere mortals like me.

    • @AntiViGames
      @AntiViGames 3 года назад

      Which one did you opt for?

    • @iaidoman
      @iaidoman 3 года назад +6

      @@AntiViGames the onefinity woodworker. I will be getting a water cooked spindle. For the sake of noise reduction. You have shown me just what is possible, with wood and a cnc. The pure beauty of some of your work is astounding. I hope that when I am unable to do my job because of my mobility problems, I will still be able to do my cnc.Thank you for the inspiration. I hope my ideas tick the boxes for my fellow veterans. Only time will tell.

    • @Kennyindia
      @Kennyindia 3 года назад +2

      @@iaidoman Best of luck to you!

  • @Kolopsych
    @Kolopsych Год назад

    Work smart, not hard. Beautiful idea with the 1 piece inlay

  • @geraldturley1497
    @geraldturley1497 3 года назад +6

    Thanks for this demo. I have just been looking at this for my 1st cnc especially as you will be able to enlarge at a later date. Do you do inlay instructional videos? UK

  • @ComgrowOfficial
    @ComgrowOfficial 2 года назад

    You're amazing and you got me!!!

  • @alexm66
    @alexm66 3 года назад

    Yes it works with Dewalt DWP611 router!

  • @edwardbenton2602
    @edwardbenton2602 3 года назад

    Nice! Should be getting mine tomorrow. What is the pvc around your machine? Is that dust collection?

  • @karimsakaan
    @karimsakaan Год назад

    Hey, great video, what speed number was the router in during the cutting? Do you remember? Thanks! Love the channel!

  • @JohnColgan.
    @JohnColgan. 3 года назад +3

    Hi Nik,
    I've been doing some research into started CNC machines. Did you try it's with the default 775 9,000 or 20,000 rpm motors & 3mm shank cutter compared to the heavier duty DeWalt router?

    • @Broinwood
      @Broinwood  3 года назад +5

      I used dewalt. You can use starter router for small projects, but if you need better performance dewalt will be better.

  • @roblbrewer
    @roblbrewer 3 года назад

    Interesting way to make an inlay.

    • @MCircuits
      @MCircuits 2 года назад

      when you have a good sander like the one he has, you can always make a beautiful inlays, if not go sand it on a piece of sandpaper on top of a glass sheet all day LOL

  • @kocibrylantpl-hodowlakotow3558
    @kocibrylantpl-hodowlakotow3558 2 года назад

    Is the ER20 collet set you are using compatible with the Dewalt 611/26200 router?

  • @hebsclips
    @hebsclips 3 года назад +1

    Could you provide details on your more expensive machine? I.e. make/model/size/price ?

  • @danielsmullen3223
    @danielsmullen3223 3 года назад +1

    What RPM did you run the router at?

  • @thunderman21
    @thunderman21 3 года назад

    would you recommend this for a beginner woodworker?

  • @ColinFox
    @ColinFox 2 года назад

    I have a question - how do you do the square inner corners of the letters with a round tool? I've seen machining videos where a round-to-square auger is used to push through a circular drill hole to carve it out into a square, but that was a manual tool, and it only moved vertically.

    • @weisshahn6485
      @weisshahn6485 2 года назад +2

      It the set up that is shown here it wouldn’t be possible to get square corners. The wood would need to be held in several vertical positions to be milled out. Even then only simple letters would be able to be machined this way. That is why he used a tapered endmill. It can give the appearance of having square sharp corners by tapering the wall downwards. The inlay piece is then milled in a mirrored path and when the fit together the two loom square. Even then though a truly perfect 90° corner isn’t possible. I hope this answers your question

  • @stanbunicu
    @stanbunicu 2 года назад

    Hello. I am thinking about buying this machine and i was wondering if you know or if you tried, what is the thickest piece of wood you can cut with a straight router bit. I hope you can give me some light about the matter. Thank you! (Ps. I want to cut wood about 50 to 60 millimeters, and what kind of bit should I use!) :) Hope to hear your opinion!

  • @diegodesouza6507
    @diegodesouza6507 3 года назад

    very good guy your content! could teach you how to design these molds to print on cnc .. thanks!

    • @bobwilliams5506
      @bobwilliams5506 3 года назад

      I don't claim to speak for the op, but since he isn't answering, all you have to do is upload a stencil or file. The software will calculate all the tool paths depending on the tool or tools you use.

  • @fmata5
    @fmata5 3 года назад +4

    Can you share your settings i.e.( Pass Depth, Feed Rate, Plunge Rate) as a good starting point.

    • @MCircuits
      @MCircuits 2 года назад

      Just play with the machine capability. That is your starting point. His brain is not like everyone's brain so use it.

    • @BroughtToYouByDDean
      @BroughtToYouByDDean 2 года назад

      Clearly shows them in the video. What.?

  • @joseluisdiaz8922
    @joseluisdiaz8922 4 месяца назад

    What kind of tape are you using? Seems like it holds strong the wood piece on the spoilboard

    • @mikehurst9880
      @mikehurst9880 4 месяца назад

      Double sided carpet tape works good iv herd

  • @user-hn4up5jd1u
    @user-hn4up5jd1u 3 года назад

    Подставка под пивасик 👍👍👍

  • @The806Traveler
    @The806Traveler 3 года назад +1

    What is your main CNC make and model?

    • @MCircuits
      @MCircuits 2 года назад

      SAINSMART Genmitsu PROVerXL 4030....the big brother of Sainsmart 3018

  • @GJ11598
    @GJ11598 2 года назад

    So this machine is capable of cutting into hard woods and not just soft woods?

  • @stephenenglebright
    @stephenenglebright 3 года назад

    After several months of owning this machine, are you still happy with it ?
    I've narrowed down my choices to this one or the Shapeoko.
    Thanks, kindly !

    • @MCircuits
      @MCircuits 2 года назад

      Go for Shapeoko..see the bending when he pressed the material on the flatbed. Someone did try milling aluminum on it. Got a descent result though.

    • @JoeLazzara
      @JoeLazzara 2 года назад

      @@MCircuits What about a Millright Carve King? Those look pretty good also.
      Do you know anything about that brand?

  • @MographMoJo
    @MographMoJo 2 года назад

    what software do you use?

  • @SwFTTTT
    @SwFTTTT 3 года назад

    Would you recommend this with a dewalt router?

    • @fuuastpk
      @fuuastpk 2 года назад

      Life time investment

  • @BrlU
    @BrlU 3 года назад

    anyone tried metals like alluminium and stuf on this cnc?

  • @casainteriors-automatedfur7077
    @casainteriors-automatedfur7077 2 года назад

    Hello Nik, what is the price of this complete machine

  • @timcassidy2498
    @timcassidy2498 3 года назад

    Where do you get your tape

  • @workingTchr
    @workingTchr Год назад

    After all that CNCing, doing freehand on a band saw?

  • @yavuzselimermaner5082
    @yavuzselimermaner5082 3 года назад

    Can someone explain or give me link how to change machine’s own router with this dewalt router ?

    • @fuuastpk
      @fuuastpk 2 года назад

      U need to purchase z axis
      for DeWalt router size

  • @domotizacion1729
    @domotizacion1729 3 года назад +1

    One tutorial , please.!!

  • @exj1599
    @exj1599 3 года назад +1

    For the inlay piece, did you have you do and some kind of an offset? Or just simply cut the female piece from inside the line and cut the male piece from outside the line?

    • @bobwilliams5506
      @bobwilliams5506 3 года назад

      I can't answer for the poster, but I use the "inlay" app and set the offset when I do inlays.

    • @MCircuits
      @MCircuits 2 года назад

      You always need an offset when doing inlays.

  • @hfig79
    @hfig79 2 года назад +1

    What CNC machine do you use?

  • @ovnox
    @ovnox 3 года назад +1

    I use the same tape. What software do you use? I just started subscribing to easel pro by inventables, I have been wanting to do inlays like this for several months and I don’t think the program does this. Had the idea months before I first saw your videos a few months ago. TIA.

    • @robertwilson6386
      @robertwilson6386 3 года назад +1

      If you look in the app section in easel there is an app for doing inlays

    • @MCircuits
      @MCircuits 2 года назад

      Use VCARVEPRO.....you'll never go wrong with inlays.

  • @jeremycaudill6916
    @jeremycaudill6916 Год назад

    So it can't cut all the way through that thick of a board ?

  • @EpicDrake
    @EpicDrake 2 года назад

    *5:20* Whats that machine do & where can I get it?

    • @Buck304
      @Buck304 2 года назад

      It's a bandsaw

  • @phaedruscj3330
    @phaedruscj3330 3 месяца назад

    But is this the machine he uses every day? I see a list of stuff he uses but not the CNC. I'll keep looking.

  • @wolfrobots118
    @wolfrobots118 Год назад

    what constitutes as inexpensive?

  • @donochetti2177
    @donochetti2177 2 года назад

    Looks ridged enough. Is it?

  • @Joshua-hz3cl
    @Joshua-hz3cl Год назад

    how thick of a peice of wood could you do?

  • @Painfulwhale360
    @Painfulwhale360 3 года назад

    Can this run with Easel software?

  • @yasarcoban4545
    @yasarcoban4545 15 дней назад

    Bu makineden almak istiyorum

  • @mtz3843
    @mtz3843 11 месяцев назад

    would like to have the machine but not going to pay 999 for some that should only be 500

  • @samk.871
    @samk.871 2 года назад

    That double tape usage is really bothering me

  • @user-vc1ze5nt9m
    @user-vc1ze5nt9m 3 года назад +1

    Вот и реклама !))) Считай станок достался бесплатно!))(

  • @Unikus777
    @Unikus777 3 года назад

    The rails are unprotected... Not good

    • @MCircuits
      @MCircuits 2 года назад

      And that is what others tend to try making at least an enclosure for that rails. More like of a Shapeoko style.

  • @steelsunpi
    @steelsunpi 3 года назад +3

    $1000 is inexpensive?

    • @canadiangemstones7636
      @canadiangemstones7636 3 года назад +2

      Yes, it is, duh...

    • @MrMrbrown862
      @MrMrbrown862 3 года назад

      The only other CNC machine at this price point would be a maslow but even that can be more with materials. Maybe Bob's cnc but again no router included. This at least comes with a spindle.

    • @Wiggysmooth23
      @Wiggysmooth23 3 года назад

      Router is included with the bobs. Dewalt or makita

    • @MrMrbrown862
      @MrMrbrown862 3 года назад

      @@Wiggysmooth23 what store?

    • @MCircuits
      @MCircuits 2 года назад

      For them. for 1,500 usd. you can get much more workarea for your piece. What he uses only makes 400 x 300 x 110mm

  • @Camille-LG
    @Camille-LG 5 месяцев назад

    CNC ProverXL is 1400$ with a 250$ Dewalt router 🤭 not sure it is "inexpensive"
    Okay it is far from a pro setup, but as far as a 3018 with 80W router 😆

  • @neilgrieve6629
    @neilgrieve6629 2 года назад

    Inexpensive? for most its very expensive

  • @onseriojr
    @onseriojr Год назад +1

    You don't even know the use of a wing nut

  • @sotm2
    @sotm2 2 года назад

    How can You call a thousand dollar CNC an in-expensive machine???

    • @JamesSmullins
      @JamesSmullins Год назад

      It's no where near that price even with the added cost of the dewalt router which can be had on sale for $100.
      Not sure where you got that price from.

  • @stephenmanns8859
    @stephenmanns8859 Год назад +1

    You're using those clamps in totally the wrong way. They're supposed to be used with another long setscrew at the back, and they should be as close to horizontal as possible.

  • @owdoco5657
    @owdoco5657 2 года назад

    What a bag of crap This machine is

  • @ComputadorasESGA
    @ComputadorasESGA 3 года назад

    what a waste of wood... :(

    • @MCircuits
      @MCircuits 2 года назад

      Maybe trying to get sponsored for SAINSMART hahahaha

  • @hswing11
    @hswing11 3 года назад

    no useable information very poor

    • @MCircuits
      @MCircuits 2 года назад

      Go to the Sainsmart website to know more of this 1000 usd with 400 x 300 x 110mm work area and tell us if it is worth it.