Mercedes EQV 1000 km challenge
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you are insane man!! only one Bjorn in the world!
Hi,
at my trip from Germany to Croatia I did the 1.000 km with the EQV in 12h and 22 Minutes. And the car was fully loaded with my 5 family members and the luggage’s for the vacation. But the road conditions where almost perfect: Temperature between 7 and 18 degrees Celsius and almost no traffic. The only thing what slowed us a little bit down was passing the three borders.
If you can test more electric vans, I think it would be interesting to see. The Peugeot e-Expert, Toyota Proace, Opel Zafira-e/Vivaro-e, Citroen e-SpaceTourer... whichever you can get. Maybe even the Fiat e-Ducato in the future. Or some of the smaller vans - the new Renault Kangoo Z.E., Toyota Proace City, Opel Combo-e, Peugeot e-Rifter. Most of them should be available this or next year. I would definitely watch these tests. It's something different than "normal" cars, but it's still relevant to many people.
Especially zafira-e and maybe env200 for reference since is probably the most used e-van till now
@@PaoloSulprizio Bjorn has actually tested the Nissan e-NV200 few years ago.
ruclips.net/user/bjornnylandsearch?query=env%20200
But Nissan will introduce a new electric van this year probably based on the Renault Kangoo Z.E., so it could also be interesting vehicle to test.
agree, i want to buy bigger car with more family member to sit inside.
Don't burn yourself out, Bjørn - we need you in this game for the long haul. So much great stuff on the horizon in the EV world!
Still stunned that the 28kwh Ioniq is still competing with the big (expensive) boys 😄
CANNOT WAIT TIL YOU COMPARE IT TO THE PSA VANS :D - i trust no other than Bjorn!
Hi Bjorn, please do the 1000km test with a Peugeout e-Traveller 75kw van or the Opel e-Zafira 75kw van. Thanks
You should test to camp and sleep in the car xD
It's not the version with the bed inside.
Really impressive time! It's by far your coldest 1000 km challenge, the biggest and roomiest vehicle you've tested and one of the most luxurious. And it achieved a good time that makes it very usable and practical. In summer it would easily be 2 hours faster, as air resistance is stronger in cold winter and this MPV is necessarily less aerodynamic than a saloon, thus cold temperatures impact is more important.
The van is juicing up it’s battery while Bjorn is juicing up with battery 😂😂😂
Test the electric Toyota proace would be cool
I am so happy you got 220k subscribers now. You truly deserve it, these videos are crazy. I hope to see you doing a lot of videos in the future aswell
Don't worry about vans - When are you doing the 1000k Challenge in a Volvo FE series tipper? Yeah that's what I want to see!! Electric truck for the win!!
sod the 1000 k challenge .. we all want to see the banana box test
I‘m voting for a 10-20°C run in this Machine. To keep such a big space warm takes lots of energy. Would be interesting to see the comparison to summer
Considering doing this right away after Geilo, which is also almost good ~500km, about (or over?) 1500km in a row in a freaking electric van is insane! 🤪
I laughed so hard with the airbreaks to break hard. Brilliant, I love your humor man!
Yes! I have enjoyed this video very much. Thank you for your hard work
Nice to see someone drink Battery outside of Finland !
Thank you so much!
You live the dream man! Doing fun challenges in awesome cars in a beautifull place
Great summary Björn. Thank you. I like the Mercedes.
Very good training before Think City 1000 km challenge :D
I would like to see more VAN tests in the future!
Is an EQV roadtrip coming? More van action please!
23:56 .. nein nein nein nein .. Bjorn's German impeccable as always
Yes please! I am planning to buy an ev van to live in. Convert it into a small campervan. Env200 size would be nice, eqv would be the maximum size.
You totally rock! More vans, please, if you are up to it, 😆.
Astonishing: cold gate at 450Wh/km consumption ...
The old fuel place could be for camper version with water tank and plug in 220v. I Hope
This is a really useful point of view ... (perfect idea)
@@mrmerm this is i will do if i will be Mercedes. And Also because i want to have EQV Marco Polo lol instead of the actual one.
@@nicolassiffert2165 I love Marco Polo edition ...
@@mrmerm me too. It is the last fosil véhicule what we have and i hope electric version will come.
I wouldn't hold your breath, as sad as that makes me. This van just can't take much more weight. The full camping kit and a full tank of water would push it past 3.5 tonnes without any passengers or luggage on board.
Somehow I have the feeling, that, if I ever go to visit Norway, I have to visit a Circle K as well 🤣
I love seeing all the Tesla Superchargers in background at Rygge.
well done !
air resistance, weight, cold gate - it‘s a huge monster on a road, no surprise on consume level. We had a Viano 3.0 Diesel a few years ago, speed >= 120 km/h was burning tons of fuel, a night mare
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งภาษาไทย อ้าย อู้ Eng so so good . Super clearly .
It would be nice to see more vans, buses and trucks .
Yeah, as a VW T5 owner I agree with you, it is too low cup holders.
Yes, more 1k challenge in vans please Bjorn.
I am very interested in the Maxus EV 80, also because I am "working" on to convince my boss to exchange the diesel cars in our company fleet with Maxus EV's. Your test could be a big help, because he likes your videos and your real life tests.
I would love if you test Peugot E - Expert next! 😇
YES e-Expert or sister please!
Now you only need to do the sub 10 min time challenge in the Nordschleife! 😁
I would really like to see you do these test with Maxus eDeliver 3 and E-NV200.
9:25, Guy says battery like a boss!
The Mercedes e-Sprinter with the 'larger' 47 kWh battery would be great for this test :D
how is 47 kWh larger than 100 kWh?
yeah you can sleep in it over the 2 days of driving.
@@kelimanjaro1091 I was not comparing it to the EQV. The e-Sprinter is available in 35 and 47 kWh.
Good work Bjorn. I think by testing vans you will be doing a service to all those small businesses out there who might be wondering if an electric van would work for them.
Try to get your hands on a Vivaro-e, this might be a good alternative for our CNG transporter.
Could not wait for VW T7 released! Damn, the best plug-in hybrid van!
Great musci starting around 5:40!
Bjorn - I wish you'd do a test to confirm or refute the alleged problems with the LFP cells in MIC SR+ 3's.
Not that i like Mercedes, especially their efforts in electrifying their range but this van has impressed me.
Hi Bjørn. Please do test the Maxus Euniq 7-seater if possible! Thank you for great videos and reviews!
This is very relevant to me, every year I drive from Yorkshire UK to the south of Spain. It’s 1500+ km each way. I currently use a diesel Vito, so want to see if my next car is a Vito or a VW Buzz.
Don`t forget how expensive it is to charge such a large, not aerodynamic EV like a van... Its crazy expensive to fast charge it compared to diesel...
IMHO keep the diesel for now. The EQV electric consumption on highway makes no sense for trips unless you live in a place with good fast chargers density (such as Norway) and need the whole room or seats of a van. If not, a regular electric car would be a much better option. However, try to delay your EV travels to Spain. The fast charging network is still on early stages and you can't find any options for many routes.
I know diesel nowadays is considered something close to evil who eats unborn children for breakfast, but it's still one of the less bad options for long road trips. Of course, emissions are higher in diesel than in EV, but not very far if you consider the primary energy mix in Spain. Also, the high power charger costs are similar to diesel fuel cost per kilometer. And, when needing high amounts of power, such as in that 3 tons 100 kWh beast, diesel efficiency is not as bad related to EV as on a normal city car, where EV is clearly much, much better.
So, long story short, I would advice to keep the diesel for now. I also have a diesel car for this kind of use and an hybrid for slower or city traffic. Just waiting for a good EV infrastructure that most likely will come in a few years. Then, I may consider to give a rest to the diesel 😬
@@Robcomesana This was done at -20°C degrees, which is insane. If you drive in summer(20/30°C) you will be able to do 1000km in 11:30-12:00 hrs. if you plan your charging stops perfectly.
@@alfrredd Sure, I agree completely. But, still, a vehicle so heavy with a big front area and not very refined Cx will have a very poor efficiency at highway speeds, both for diesel and EV. However, this penalty is higher in EV, because you have much less energy on-board and it takes much longer to "refill" it. Of course, I guess those 400 Wh/km won't be a summer average. Well, at least it shouldn't 😬
PD: And, also, keep in mind the lack of EV fast chargers in Spain
In advance, Sorry for going all eco warrior.
Don't go EV for the wrong reasons. Consumerism != environmentalism, even though the ads say otherwise.
Use EVs for what they are good for.
Buy used or rent a diesel for the cases it makes more sense.
ICE cost of ownership is comparatively going up, and people will vote with their wallet.
Of course, EQV will be able to take the trip, but it will hurt.
Ref Porsche Tåken owner driving from Norway to Spain (getting stuck there due to the Plague :)
Good ground it of primary importance for good signals ;-)
Yes, please test other vans.
Not a true van but a 7-seater: Opel COMBO-e LIFE maybe ?
Cool!
Could you in general (in addition to the light test, etc.) record/show the AVAS sound? (acoustic vehicle alerting system) It might be interesting to hear how differently the driving noise sounds on different cars from the outside.
Great Car but.....this consumption...man...in Germany we pay Minimum 0,39,- Euro / Kwh at DC Chargers, Ionity cost 0,79,- Euro / Kwh....you must work many hours to pay the charging bills..... .
Bought an eVito Tourer 90kWh from Germany (dealer demo unit low mileage), I'm going to drive it from the north of Germany to Portugal in July, so a 2600km challenge in three days! Taking two of our kids, I will be the only driver.
I am considering bying it and we would travel to southern spain in winter - over 2500km. How was it?
@@ackwebde Super easy, contracted the evway Ionity contract (€69 per year, €0.59/kWh at Ionity), it was a breeze.
@@ppinheiro76 So you drove at least 10h every day - those are long hours. We thought about doing it in 4-5 days this summer, still not sure about it. The car must have been really comfortable for you to drive this long each day.
@@ackwebde Yes, I actually ended up doing it by myself, without the kids, due to COVID restrictions. Did almost 1000km on the second day, very relaxing. Besides the charging stops being great to rest and work a bit (around 30/35 minutes), the adaptive cruise control does help a lot, especially with thicker traffic.
We have the Mercedes sprinter van here in the United States, and I see a fair few of them around, though not as much as I used to. It would be interesting to see if the EQV could sell here.
Cold air is more dense and that increases the consumption a lot not to mention the heating.
So winter range is about 160 km...40 % of wltp hmm, getting wltp range would reguire over 200 kW battery... heavy stuff.
Thanks Björn for showing this for us!
kWh
thats not Winter range, thats frozen wasteland range.
Would you consider doing the 1000km test in summer please Bjorn? Will it rapid-gate in warmer weather? If it doesn’t rapid gate it would make a good diy camper conversion for the family in a few years when second hand ones become available. Thank you, I really enjoy watching your tests, you give us the truth.
The Mercedes Actros has a Cupholder right in Björn Position:)
The e-Expert would be nice or the Proace.
I think you should call it MC Vanner! 👍😊
I believe aerodynamic drag goes up exponentially with speed. So slowing down in a Van will actually help you reach faster due to higher efficiency
Bjorn you are driving a motor that is as aerodynamic as a brick. Slow down man!!!😂
Wow! I just watched the banana box video of this car. Weird thing that you keep finding, wonder what it is.
I found that if you screw it in the ceiling (you will need to find a fitting pin to screw into), you can use it as means to hang your lamp. It is confusing why cars include though - you can't really screw it in car ceiling.
I have once seen an asian guy using it I believe somewhere on RUclips. But when people listened in on that video I was being frowned upon :-)
Odometer is of for a reason. There is a law in place that your Odometer can not be 100 correct in case you have tire size changes or for example you add a snow chain. I believe they have to stay between 1 and 3%
As an owner of the env200, I would claim that, it's cup holders are so poorly designed they are practically worthless 😂 any turn and ordinary bottles will fall over
Bjørn you really are the vaaaaan.
Ehh. Maaaaaaan 😁🤣😎👏🏼💪🏼💪🏼
Please do a camp test!
You should not require the location of the cupholders too high. The higher they are, the higher the risk of spilling drinks. The same applies to the driver's head. The higher the position of the driver (head), the worse his condition and fatigue on a long trip. This is due to the amplitude of oscillations and neck fatigue. That's why drivers in Formula 1 sit almost on the ground,
and still feel the increased loads during powerful accelerations and turns.
Would be interesting to know how long you need to hammer it for the battery to get up to proper charging temp. So you could cruise easy and then give it the beans for 10km for instance, to charge really fast.
freakin cold
I would like you to do a test with the new Mercedes GLE 350de PHEV, a huge SUV car that can do 100km electric, acording to Mercedes. Test it please!!
PS GLEs cup holder can both, cool or heat your drinks, it can allso be fitted with 60Kw fast charger DS
This is good enough for me for vanlife. But how much energy would it spend keeping you warm while camping? This is worse weather condition than I would use, so it is a great baseline to what I can expect from it
Should be called EQV 450. For the consumption.
Will be great if you test the Volvo electric truck
I wonder if Tesla can do a van much more efficiently. Model X Raven got 229 wh/km in summer with Bjorn, so maybe 300 in winter. Would be amazing.
i assume you have been driving with the airco switched on? I guess the car has also individual heated seats. I wonder whether the watt consumption drastic decreases when driving with heated seats on instead of the airco ? I understand that in general airco consumes a lot of energy.
Ciao Bjorn it would be awesome if you could try the new Fiat 500 electric ⚡️
on 15:39
Bjørn looks like hi left prison 2 mins ago))
in in that night i see hhim in this location - i'll be run away
The same consumption I am getting on the B class electric in winter (these days) and this is due to the fact the motor (or battery not sure) heating fluid pipes are not insulated. On the B class forums the owners are insulating the pipes and getting much better consumption
Thanks for the info, looks a good idea. Can you share the link to the forum?
@@Mega6981 have you put somewhere info/pictures with this? What insulation material you are using? Is this from construction shop or something special?
26:00 not bad if compared to an I-pace which cost more or less the same, need approximately only 1h less for the 1000 challenge, and consume only about 20-30% less being a 5 seats car (considering the different temp of the 2 tests).
But I don't understand why they couldn't provide this premium van with such a big battery a faster charger while Tesla has a 250kw on a cheaper model 3&Y.
Is there a rom in the front for a webasto diesel heater. It would do wonders for the range.
Yes, Ive heard of people putting a golf cart 1lbs propane cup holder heater in their EVs.
moooore vanssss
Bjorn. in a EQ model, if you put the charging station as your destination it will automatically pre-heat the battery for you by the time you arrive.
Just like Audi, this is claimed by the manufacturer but it actually doesn't happen.
Hi Bjorn, I own an EQV for about 2 weeks now and have an avarage usage of 26-29kw/100km. So I think the very cold weather stole a lot of energy? I wonder if you could do it again under normal conditions? I think that would save at least one stop for recharge and speed things up a lot.
This is mad, basically same range as my eUp but 3x the battery😅
Also insane considering how much more efficient 7 seater SUVs are compared to these V classes.
Do you think we'll see more of these SUVs in the future instead of vans?
the vans will always suffer at high speed because of their square rear ends. Basically all of your aerodynamic losses happen at the rear of the vehicle.
Sloping the rear down even a bit like on the SUVs can really cut drag. But we could also see a lot of aero tricks deployed to fill in that hole in the air behind the van.
When you have your new tesla, you should test autopilot in winter
Is it possible this one have tesla drivetrain and battery? Like B electric?
Just came in for the nein nein neiiiiiinnnn!!!! 🤟🏻😂
Plot twist: Bjørn is an ev. Consuming batteries so he can make it 1000kms
Please try again 1000km on summer with EQV.
Is it burning in the back at 22:16 ?
What does the red/grey fan to the right of the battery in the ICL display mean? Sometimes it is grey and some other times it is red.
Preheating active.
How much all charges sections was costs ?
Don’t you like our Millennium Falcons Bjørn?😉