FENDER TONE MASTER PRO - I PUT IT TO THE TEST!

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  • Опубликовано: 17 ноя 2024

Комментарии • 281

  • @QuoVadis88
    @QuoVadis88 11 месяцев назад +45

    Best demo of the TMP yet. It's refreshing to see someone put thought into getting a good sound rather than complaining about the presets on version 1 software such as Rhett. I told Rhett he could make a Dumble sound bad. A good design allows for brilliance to flourish. The Stratocaster was a good design for Hank Marvin, Dick Dale. But it became apparent the Stratocaster was a great design with Hendrix. The TMP is a great design. Brilliance is flourishing, no manual needed.

  • @yessitsme6884
    @yessitsme6884 11 месяцев назад +55

    Thank you Pete for actually taking the time to show all the things this unit can do.

  • @dollar99
    @dollar99 11 месяцев назад +22

    Kind of mind blowing that a legendary guitar player took the time to make a very practical and informative demo. Thank you.

    • @PeteThorn
      @PeteThorn  11 месяцев назад +12

      Hey thanks! I'm a legendary guitar nerd maybe, ha!

  • @RobbyRobertson-fd6dd
    @RobbyRobertson-fd6dd 11 месяцев назад +38

    Pete is such a fantastic player 👏
    If only there was a Pete's hands pedal...

    • @stepitupandgo67
      @stepitupandgo67 3 месяца назад

      I don't think they have one of those

  • @suarkttam
    @suarkttam 8 месяцев назад +3

    Realizing this is already a 2 month old video (at least 2 years in RUclips time)...but, I have ot say what an incredible demo. You never fail to disappoint and use things in an interesting yet usable way. Thank you so much.

  • @JonathanFoer
    @JonathanFoer 9 месяцев назад +9

    Pete Thorn is an absolutely likeable and fantastic musician. Whenever I'm interested in new equipment, the first thing I do is see if there's a review by him!
    It's great to listen to - sensationally good demo songs - and you always get really excellent information!

  • @msi1985
    @msi1985 11 месяцев назад +15

    I have had this unit since its debut release... I had an extremely positive experience, Fender has released 2 quality firmware updates so far, and both have been jam-packed with very useful and practical updates. I am looking forward to seeing some implementation for basa amplifiers, but for now, the studio preamp and the tube preamp both work wonderfully. The only thing I wish could be extended. Just a little bit longer is the current looper only works for sixty seconds. For most people, that might cut the mustard. But for people who are doing a lot of looping. I still rely on my standalone looper pedal.

  • @BreauxBobby
    @BreauxBobby 3 месяца назад +4

    As usual with Pete's videos, I find myself watching it over and over to see just how he does things. I have some of the gear he demos, but it doesn't sound as good when I'm playing through it. He's very creative and has amazing talent. And he's having a great time doing what he's doing. Nice to see.

  • @Richardgreenmusic.
    @Richardgreenmusic. 11 месяцев назад +8

    As an owner of the Tone Master Pro I was happy to see your amazing demo. When you pulled out the Danelectro 12 String you had my full attention! Happy Holidays Pete!!

  • @ricopaxton
    @ricopaxton 11 месяцев назад +1

    Since years I don't watch this kind of content to figure out, what I desperately need because basically all gear sounds amazing. I watch/listen to hear awesome players playing awesome lines. You are my king in doing that. Best wishes! (to everybody).

  • @HillcrestGames
    @HillcrestGames 11 месяцев назад +36

    I want to see a brown sound shootout between different modelers, including IR-X. With echoplex in the front and the whole 9 yards.

    • @kevinlong4657
      @kevinlong4657 11 месяцев назад

      I have the IR-X and the Tonex and they are both pretty awesome. The IR-X just feels great to play (especially with some reverb from my apollo interface). Tonex is awesome and super versatile.

    • @ahall3823
      @ahall3823 11 месяцев назад

      The fractal audio axe fx iii wins that battle. Easily.

    • @Ramiroocampo
      @Ramiroocampo 11 месяцев назад +1

      Brown Sound shootout....is my mind so deep in the gutter or why do I read this as the punchline of a toilet joke?

    • @Polentaccio
      @Polentaccio 11 месяцев назад

      THIS.. get er done Pete!

    • @89ji76
      @89ji76 11 месяцев назад +1

      Leon Todd shoots out the JCM 800 models, which is certainly brown sound adjacent.
      Fender vs Fractal vs Quad Cortex vs Helix

  • @Adventuresingearland
    @Adventuresingearland 11 месяцев назад +2

    Wonderful to see some very different perspectives of the capacity of this thing PT - great creativity. 👏🏻

  • @billsstudio2528
    @billsstudio2528 8 месяцев назад +1

    One of Pete's best! Methodical, useful and approaching from a positive constructive way that gets some really good info into the hands of us mere mortals that layed down the chunk of change for this modeler. Thanks for showing us different ways to utilize the TMP! Look forward to other ways to use this kit as it continues to get updates. Will definitely watch this over a few times!

  • @MarcCoteMusic
    @MarcCoteMusic 11 месяцев назад +3

    What a fantastic demo. Certainly the most complete, in depth I've seen. Well done, Pete.

    • @PeteThorn
      @PeteThorn  11 месяцев назад +1

      Glad you liked it!

  • @SeanVarley100
    @SeanVarley100 11 месяцев назад +3

    I have been using one the last few months. I really love the Fender Amp sounds in the unit. The effects are also very good. Great playing and demo by you.

  • @foylebutler8952
    @foylebutler8952 21 день назад

    Im an old man now. I dont see to well . I love the large display. Your video on the tones and operation sold me on it. Thanks for the great video!

  • @ChristopherWalker007
    @ChristopherWalker007 11 месяцев назад +2

    The dual chorus effect on the intro is just gorgeous

  • @Cantstandtherock
    @Cantstandtherock 8 месяцев назад

    I bought one and have not used it live yet. What Pete does here is very cool. The new era of modeler/processors is breathtaking. I love showing up to a gig with a pedalboard and two of my Petrucci guitars and be set! Sound guys love not having to battle with the 100+db stage madness. And I love not having twenty failure points! Love where things are headed and Pete is the best out there. 🤟🏼🤟🏼

  • @TheRickdoggie
    @TheRickdoggie 11 месяцев назад +2

    Best Tonemaster Pro review I have seen. I love how you show how you can totally integrate external pedals and amps. The four FX Loops are amazing.

  • @gabriele8ne
    @gabriele8ne 11 месяцев назад +2

    this is one of the most inspired pieces of music I have heard in one of your demos in a bit. I love it!

  • @markpeesker77
    @markpeesker77 Месяц назад

    So grateful for these videos- by far the most informative gear videos with wicked playing. Super entertaining and informative, without commercial biases. Pete, you are a true professional. Thanks so, so much.

  • @LivinginLosAngeles-re5yx
    @LivinginLosAngeles-re5yx 4 месяца назад +2

    Should Pete really be demo'ing gear....he just makes everything sound amazing. Great to see his success. 👍

  • @scottkingsley8037
    @scottkingsley8037 10 месяцев назад

    I love the fact that you do things so well, I can tell when something is still not for me. And when it is it just resonates.

  • @wea69420
    @wea69420 11 месяцев назад +5

    That Thayil model is beautiful! Great demo as usual. Can't say I'm captivated by the unit, but it's always great to have some competition in the area.

    • @QuoVadis88
      @QuoVadis88 11 месяцев назад +2

      You have to try it. I have had one for a month. It has made me a better guitar player. That's reason enough to get one. Gigs are another reason. Life is short is another reason. It should be on your Bucket List.

  • @mattvdh
    @mattvdh 3 месяца назад

    so thorough and yet concise. it's neat how many things you were able to do, shows how creative you are

  • @QuickSticks8771
    @QuickSticks8771 11 месяцев назад +5

    Really nice to see a pro champion this unit without the endless comparison to competitors.
    Some more vids on interesting ways to use it and perhaps some uploaded presets to tone cloud would be greatly appreciated

  • @brucerichard2904
    @brucerichard2904 3 месяца назад +1

    I've seen several of these reviews, and this one is the best. I'm getting tempted to get this.

  • @joesatchton212
    @joesatchton212 11 месяцев назад +2

    I'm definitely like the 2,423,984 person to say that watching Pete Thorn gear demos is such a terrible thing to do if you want to not go bankrupt. And also to say that it really is unfair just how frickin great Pete makes everything he touches sound so incredible.
    Plus, of course, always seeming to effortlessly come up with original, awesome guitar parts.
    Been with ya from the beginning Pete. Like fine wine you just keep getting better and better.

  • @pdbordelon
    @pdbordelon 11 месяцев назад +1

    Pete, this video is wonderful, thank you for showing us a set-up I wouldn't have thought of with my TMP. Please post more videos with your TMP rigs, patches, etc. :)

  • @zackmackmusic6655
    @zackmackmusic6655 10 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for the great review Pete. I just got mine and can’t put it away. People hating on the TMP platform 1) won’t make any more money giggin’ 🤣 and 2) reveal more about their bias (pun intended), than about the gear itself. I’ve got 3 real world gig loadouts already and have only had the TMP for a week! Rock on!

  • @dinadams
    @dinadams 11 месяцев назад

    That Strat solo at the start was epic. Strat bridge pickups can sound so sweet.

  • @peterschaefer1665
    @peterschaefer1665 11 месяцев назад +3

    Killer composition as per usual Pete, great job!! Tones are nice, and it looks like it is fun to program as well. Great graphics.

  • @shawnhelsel923
    @shawnhelsel923 4 месяца назад

    Pete, The idea of using an acoustic image in place of a speaker IR to model realistic acoustic tone from an under saddle piezo is pure genius. I’ll have to try that eventually. Incredible stuff and playing man.

  • @obivandings3845
    @obivandings3845 3 месяца назад

    You are such a great musician, the way you play is absolutely adorable. I'm into making music for over 40 years now, but I never ever heard a Stratocaster sound that good like the Sunburst at the start of your video: this is absolutely magic and (if I got this right) in the middle (!) position, later with the bridge pickup: this sound nails it! The Strat was invented for exactly this sound! O.m.g. .... unbelievable 🤩🥰❤

  • @blakejames9952
    @blakejames9952 10 месяцев назад +1

    Pete makes everything sound great. Personally I’m still enjoying my FM9.

  • @sinnertrain7405
    @sinnertrain7405 11 месяцев назад +2

    This is the first time I bought a product before Pete demo'd it. I agree that you HAVE to edit the presets a lot or create your own. It's not plug and play, if you want to get any really cool sounds out of the TMP. But no modeling unit I've used has been any different, as far as the need for serious tweaking goes. Thanks PETE!

    • @PeteThorn
      @PeteThorn  11 месяцев назад +4

      Yeah, I'm not a big fan of presets usually! I want to get in there and make my own usually

  • @MrSpike7590
    @MrSpike7590 11 месяцев назад +1

    I watched multiple videos on this unit. Your sounds have been the best so far. Look forward to seeing your 2290p video!!

  • @MarkWilliams-cs9qk
    @MarkWilliams-cs9qk 4 месяца назад

    Very thorough review of the TMP - it's great to see some of the capabilities of the TMP beyond basic preset usage. Nice demo, Pete!

  • @benzakonium
    @benzakonium 11 месяцев назад +1

    That editor UI/UX looks very well thought out and beautifully designed. Really impressive, Makes me want to look at the unit even more now.

  • @ChristopherWalker007
    @ChristopherWalker007 11 месяцев назад +2

    Great review Pete. I like how you did it a little differently from others and I appreciate the work you put into it. Loved your compositional piece too 👍

    • @PeteThorn
      @PeteThorn  11 месяцев назад +2

      I appreciate that!

  • @ChristopherWalker007
    @ChristopherWalker007 11 месяцев назад +1

    In isolation the acoustic sounds a bit too bright but that's ok because when you add all the other instruments it sits perfectly in the mix. Great job 👍

  • @Sadlander2
    @Sadlander2 11 месяцев назад +1

    Hi Pete! You did a great job (as you always do) showing the sounds and the different possible ways you can use this toy but, I know, I've left a similar comment before but I'll say it again: *I love listening and watching you play the guitar!*

  • @Five0Music
    @Five0Music 11 месяцев назад +1

    Been waiting for your demo! Going to have to get one now.

  • @ccaputa
    @ccaputa 11 месяцев назад +1

    Very nice Pete. That Guild is sweet! Sounds great.

  • @elatiumband
    @elatiumband 9 месяцев назад

    What a great demo. Thank you for making this! inspired and inspiring playing, wow!

  • @robertclarkguitar
    @robertclarkguitar 11 месяцев назад

    That red and black Suhr always makes the killer cuts.

  • @francescodomenichetti3787
    @francescodomenichetti3787 11 месяцев назад

    I seriously can't wait to see you again at the classic rock show!

  • @JohnnysaidWhat
    @JohnnysaidWhat 6 месяцев назад

    this demo track would sit right at home during a live stadium half time show with the best of them. What a solo 😮

  • @slappywag7210
    @slappywag7210 11 месяцев назад +3

    It’s hard to tell if I’d like it, because Pete makes everything sound good. 🤪🤘

    • @Nightwinflyer
      @Nightwinflyer 11 месяцев назад

      I keep saying, the gear isn't what is important....the playing is. Most people don't obsess over gear the way us guitar players do. They do care about crappy playing.

  • @creightonjewkes9124
    @creightonjewkes9124 11 месяцев назад

    Brilliant composition at the beginning Pete, you are one of the most talented guitarists alive, and a real inspiration for my playing.

  • @timgust4229
    @timgust4229 11 месяцев назад

    Any company "should" make sure you do the demo. Thanks Pete for showing how new gear can be used to it's fullest. Funny how I see a lot of these on the used market, so soon.

  • @adrianmiller1971
    @adrianmiller1971 11 месяцев назад

    Thorough and approaching from different angles than other reviews, on top of the usual multi layering, good stuff

  • @Ryan-Hall
    @Ryan-Hall 11 месяцев назад +1

    Excellent Job Pete,,, as the Song goes ""No One Does It Better "! THORN! PETE THORN!! Sounded Awesome and always inventive , Thanks PETE sounds like a great grab and go Box 🤘🎸🤠

  • @guguslive
    @guguslive 9 месяцев назад

    Thanks Pete... I was waiting for someone to use this with a bass...

  • @JJvienneau
    @JJvienneau 11 месяцев назад +2

    Holy Cow that Guild electric is amazing!!! Your getting great sounds from that Tone Master man!!! I just picked up a good old Boss GT3 on the cheap ( 80$ !) to add to my live gig pedal board setup. I use manual mode to just add 6 xtra pedals to my arsenal. It actually sounds really good man. The noise reduction is invisible!! Got an NOBELS ODR 1 to boost my solos but now i just leave it on cause it sounds so good! Using a Fender Highway One HSS ( Actually a Burstbucker in the bridge) Obviously the Tone Master kills thr GT3 hahah!!! Cheers from Montreal!

  • @theriffdjenerator2213
    @theriffdjenerator2213 11 месяцев назад

    We're so lucky to have all that so readily accessible. What a great time to be a musician. I have the helix rack and the tonemaster pro and I am finally happy.. I am using the Darkglass ADAM for bass though... If TMP adds proper bass utility I'll maybe sell that puppy

  • @marcusbarnes5929
    @marcusbarnes5929 10 месяцев назад

    Showing how to set up and run a volve amp with 4CM is great thanks 👍

  • @AhYesIndeedItsFunTime
    @AhYesIndeedItsFunTime 11 месяцев назад +1

    Finally a review of this unit from someone I trust 100%

  • @jaredbracci3529
    @jaredbracci3529 6 месяцев назад

    Hey PETE! Wonderful composition! Really appreciate all your reviews, and natural proclivity to think outside the box. I think the TMP is going to find its way into my studio after this excellent video. BIG THANKS 😊

  • @jackprice7828
    @jackprice7828 11 месяцев назад

    Pete really love the intro piece. Your compositions inspire! Tones would great. As I have heard with other demos on the Master Pro, it does clean really good.

  • @craigthorneycroft5382
    @craigthorneycroft5382 11 месяцев назад

    By far the best video I’ve seen on the TMP! Nice one Pete 🤘

  • @Kouros-t6d
    @Kouros-t6d 3 месяца назад +1

    Great sounds and great playing as usual

  • @Andy_Yates
    @Andy_Yates 11 месяцев назад

    Just stellar. Cool song and thank you for showing some creative, alternative ways to use this

  • @JorgeParagliding
    @JorgeParagliding 11 месяцев назад

    What an awesome video showcasing the Tone Master Pro. You should run the marketing department at Fender. This is the first video that has me considering purchasing one.

  • @Cantstandtherock
    @Cantstandtherock 8 месяцев назад

    One thing to note, the TMP is perfect for a single act. Run a vocal and guitar into it and give them their own path with effects, comps, etc. Easy peasy! What really made me go away from the Quad Cortex was the power supply. The QC uses a wall wart and the TMP uses an IEC. I don’t want to deal with a wall wart in a gig situation.

  • @Paul_Lenard_Ewing
    @Paul_Lenard_Ewing 11 месяцев назад +2

    The IR trick on the acoustic works great. I found out that it also works great on my Marshall It gives a really nice light reverb type ambience and a bit of faux 4x12 to my single 12 cab.

    • @GCKelloch
      @GCKelloch 11 месяцев назад +1

      He used an IR of an acoustic guitar overlayed on his bridge saddle acoustic guitar pickup. Is that what you did? If you use guitar speaker IR's with a real guitar speaker you are doubling the speaker/cab resonance effects and the LP filter slope. Not necessarily a bad practice, but may get a bit muddy.
      A close & neutral sounding mic'd IR with different resonance peaks and a higher roll-off freq than your real speaker might be nice. Something like a G1230-55Hz or EVM12L type or even a JBL D120 or K120 close mic'd with an SM81, U67 or other such accurate/neutral mic with a low proximity effect would be worth trying. Ribbon mic's have a very strong proximity effect. The low end can be very boosted depending on the IR. You can check the freq response of IR's with white noise and a freq analyzer. A 3~6dB bass proximity boost on a 1x12 cab IR will give your 1x12 cab a 4x12 sound, but any bass boost on a 4x12 cab IR will overdo it.

  • @mr.h5788
    @mr.h5788 5 месяцев назад

    Hell yeah man. Just discovered your channel. Nice Guild! I have an old 1994 S-100.

  • @mdub048
    @mdub048 11 месяцев назад

    I wanted to hear surf tones and maybe some Jimi and some early Stones, but I really like what you did and the way you went about it, especially the fuzz and the Destroyer parts. 🤩🤩That is the way to do modeling -break all the rules, do things you almost cannot do with real amps and equipment etc...

  • @chrisosborneband4941
    @chrisosborneband4941 11 месяцев назад

    that was one of your best intro tracks ever!!!

  • @TheRodge2112
    @TheRodge2112 11 месяцев назад +2

    Killer demo, Pete! Seems like a powerful unit.

  • @tommywolfe2110
    @tommywolfe2110 11 месяцев назад

    Finally! A very great, true application of the unit, much more interesting than a demo of all the bells and tricks it can do without comparing to everything that already exists.... and trash talk if it emulates perfectly trad amps. It just sounds good!!!!!!! Playing, studio skills and recording knowledge are to another level as well, to start with!

    • @PeteThorn
      @PeteThorn  11 месяцев назад +1

      Glad you liked it!

  • @williambenglish
    @williambenglish 11 месяцев назад

    I really like the demo, kinda makes me want to get one. But then every time you demo something I want to go out and buy it. I'm a huge fan and I'm sure your friend EVH was too.

  • @rednoise0
    @rednoise0 10 месяцев назад

    I'm not yet entirely convinced about the Tonemaster series (but I'm getting there!) but I have to say that Pete is great at exploiting the inherent abilities of his gear, and is able to get luscious sounds out of most of them. He has excellent taste.

  • @lance134679
    @lance134679 11 месяцев назад +1

    I like the high effort you put into your demos. The Tonemaster Pro seems like a really strong entry into the high end floor amp modeling field and able to compete with the likes of the Helix and Boss GT-1000.

    • @PeteThorn
      @PeteThorn  11 месяцев назад +2

      Thank you! This one did take quite a bit of time!

  • @wtcornet
    @wtcornet 11 месяцев назад

    Pete thanks for making the Bass patches.

  • @loudguitar
    @loudguitar 10 месяцев назад

    Excellent review, Pete. This thing is easy to use and sounds great. The cork sniffers who are negative about it baffle me. The thing I like best about it is the display and user interface.

  • @Davidlovesmusic311
    @Davidlovesmusic311 Месяц назад

    Great tones! Very great talent you got

  • @keithbuck8252
    @keithbuck8252 11 месяцев назад

    Fantastic Pete I brought one of these and really like it but this is a refreshing take on this pedal very well thought out and done.i must also say I'm a little tired of some of the self professed experts on you tube .... but like you there are the ones who really do it well and demo so we'll as there quality players thank you Pete

  • @Chef_Jeff69
    @Chef_Jeff69 11 месяцев назад

    Some pretty good geetar faces! 🤘🏼 Excellent, in-depth demo…again👍🏼

  • @robbramwell512
    @robbramwell512 11 месяцев назад

    Freaking Great Tune, Pete! You have out done yourself! Great sounds out of that Fender Tone Master! Thanks!

    • @PeteThorn
      @PeteThorn  11 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks for listening!!

    • @PeteThorn
      @PeteThorn  11 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks for listening!!

  • @tandy2351
    @tandy2351 11 месяцев назад

    What a gift Mr. Thorn is, you are fantastic Pete!

    • @PeteThorn
      @PeteThorn  11 месяцев назад +1

      Hey thanks!

  • @Burkhimself
    @Burkhimself 11 месяцев назад

    Loved that clean chord progression

  • @EZLogikal
    @EZLogikal 9 месяцев назад

    Sick song, SUPER helpful information on the unit, and great tips on being more tasteful with the signal chain. And thanks for showing how capable it is with bass guitar. Very much appreciated, liked and subbed!

  • @JoshuaJonesGuitar
    @JoshuaJonesGuitar 10 месяцев назад

    That opening jam was sick!

  • @WillBrahm
    @WillBrahm 5 дней назад

    This is so informative. Thanks Pete!

  • @StevenRoby
    @StevenRoby 9 месяцев назад

    Peter, killer playing on the opening piece! Why do so many people hate on this unit? Other than the price point, it seems like a massively functional box with great tones!

  • @DougErapps
    @DougErapps 10 месяцев назад

    Fantastic demo as usual. Pete!! Thanks !!

  • @jackk100
    @jackk100 11 месяцев назад

    Super informative, thanks! And sweet playing, I love how musical you are.

  • @robertdintsch1583
    @robertdintsch1583 11 месяцев назад

    Thx for this Pete! Great compositions and tones!

  • @Firebrandrock
    @Firebrandrock 11 месяцев назад

    Wow! What a great….and so many cool guitars….you got it all Pete……sounds great !!!!

  • @chopperking007
    @chopperking007 10 месяцев назад

    That thing will just get better and better with updates

  • @stevequeen8533
    @stevequeen8533 11 месяцев назад +1

    Pete thorn could make a vacuum cleaner plugged into a microwave sound brilliant, great job Pete, u really are a tone master pro

  • @peterevans3229
    @peterevans3229 11 месяцев назад

    @Pete ... once again a killer tune that could be an LP (just say'n) .... record this stuff for hours, we'd all buy it - fantastic review sir!

  • @jeremyserwer2586
    @jeremyserwer2586 11 месяцев назад

    The Dani 12 string Vox sound was amazing!

    • @PeteThorn
      @PeteThorn  11 месяцев назад +2

      Love that tone as well!

  • @Worklikeyoushouldbe
    @Worklikeyoushouldbe 6 месяцев назад

    Man you play well. Lovely stuff, and great review.

  • @peterhebert7192
    @peterhebert7192 2 месяца назад

    Superb overview. Just bought one.

  • @FredZiomek
    @FredZiomek 11 месяцев назад +3

    The high frequencies seem more pronounced with the Tone Master than other modellers like the Quad Cortex, Helix, and Fractal. Definitely hear more high frequency content coming through on the Tone Master amp models vs the actual amps running in four cable. Did you find the need to run any post processing (EQ / Filters) to smooth out the modeller amps or have to run third party IRs to get more natural sounds?

    • @stevencancel1727
      @stevencancel1727 10 месяцев назад

      Run it thru your tube amps and best speakers used this as a pedal sounds amazing same as a GT 100 mustang 169.99 used

  • @80Shades-Guitar
    @80Shades-Guitar 11 месяцев назад

    Such a nice guitar solo. Very soulful and badass

  • @RickDanner
    @RickDanner 2 месяца назад

    i love your playing no matter what it is its great

  • @johndeschain2156
    @johndeschain2156 11 месяцев назад

    Your playing keeps getting tastier, great stuff.
    That box seems more complicated than my real wdw rig. Guess I'm an old dog😜