2019 OFFSEASON WINNERS: New York Rangers. Blue Jackets win Bobrovsky signing with Florida. 2020-21: Despite Merzlikins’ success, the Blue Jackets finish 3rd last in defense and near dead last in the league
It scares me how similar Edmonton’s story is to Montreal’s so far. At least Montreal’s superstar is just out, he’s not traded. Hopefully we can come back stronger next year.
Surprised you didn't mention the Sharks. They went from competing for the Cup every year (albeit coming up short every time), to being an old as dirt team with only a few promising prospects. Not to mention Doug Wilson locking up everyone for nearly a decade, still thinking that this team can compete
I remember going to all of the ducks playoff games in 2006 and 2007, And being shocked by how good that Pronger-led Edmonton team was in The WCF. I knew the duck were screwed when Dwayne Roloson Made a long pass to Forward who scored a shorthanded goal for the Oilers. And then the Pronger trade happened… And then the ducks cup run happened in 2007
I'll always think that the Hawks would be contenders today, if they signed Panarin with an 8x8 instead of the sign & trade for Saad. Just subtract Dach, Jones, and Strome and add Nick Schmaltz and the team still would look good.
I'm a jackets fan and when we traded for those players we knew they didn't want to stay. Things are looking up those woth sillinger and chinocove and we have multiple first round picks our goaltending is superb we are Def rebuilding but in a few years we will be right back where we were
My 2017-18 Dallas stars fell apart the final month of the season. Going from a 70%+ chance of making the playoffs to being eliminated with several games left
Alright I’m just gonna say this: The Rangers firing all of their management in the middle of a largely successful rebuild, Trading Pavel Buchnevich, and signing Ryan Reeves and Jared Tinordi to multiyear deals because Tom Wilson is a mean mean man….is the reason why people love Tom Wilson. I actually have grown to like Tom Wilson because of this. Just seeing one man take up that much real estate in the heads of the wealthiest NHL franchise in the world just actually makes me like the guy. I’m not sorry.
Idk the fact that they resigned Mike Smith to a multi-year deal, then dropped down in the recent draft after leaving Wallstedt on the board then banking on a random top 6 in Hyman to play well with McDavid like they tried with Kahun and Neal. Unless they make it past the first round, I can't bring myself to say they improved. Even if Wallstedt was never on Holland's mind that is still extremely ignorant to leave a goalie like that when the entire fanbase has concerns about the net.
@@RobTalksHockey and a bad gym would have messed with that like Chia did in the years after the Oilers made the playoffs in 2017. Everybody has forgotten the good moves Holland has made, he some how was able to trade Lucic for a contract that didn’t need protecting in the expansion draft and was much easier to buyout and every other gym in the league would have traded JP but Holland stood pat and now the Oilers have a blossoming star in the making, he was able to a great deal for nuge.
Ken Holland wasn’t that great of a GM once salary cap was a thing. He knows how to throw money at the players, but he doesn’t know how to manage money into the salary cap. Speaking as a Wongs fan who Ken was GM of before Oilers
The Bobrovsky contract was bad. The Jones contract was questionable. Can't argue the Panarin contract. It doesn't happen in Columbus that much. Hyperbole. Nash stayed for his best years, so that doesn't fly. You also forgot Savard. That actually is a pretty big loss.
With how it's going, will hockey change so that certain players get to do what they want on the ice (pond hockey) while others do the hard work, play defense, and get paid 1/3 to 1/8 what the stars get, all while playing the same TOI. And if Edmonton kept Eberle, Hamonic, they'd be better now.
"This right here is the last time Edmonton oilers fans were happy" lol.. reminds me of that Simpsons episode where Bart pauses the TV to see the exact second Ralph wiggums heart breaks
Maybe the Sens were really just a flash in the pan? as in they overachieved or were collectively "in the zone".. Look, it happens on occasion. Some teams just do better than anticipated, they have that good season but then they come back down to earth.. Keep in mind there are a lot of factors that really determine how successful a team can be and all those factors really have to align to make it happen.. I mean some teams look fantastic on paper, but in practice they may not have chemistry, not to mention teams need to stay healthy and of course cohesion needs to be there to have a strong team and if any of these factors are disrupted it can really hurt a team and if a team is hurt long enough it can really cause an implosion.. Not only that but then the GM starts making bad moves and it can turn into a tire fire really quickly, and the next thing you know you have a top 5 pick at the draft and somehow manage to mess that up by previously trading it...
i mean the jackets have had the same amount (more if you include the play in vs. Toronto) of post season success since losing Panarin/Bob/Duchene as their respective teams. Going all in was worth it
If Ottawa just had of scored in that double OT we would have easily won the cup and the next few years would have been more bearable because it would have happened either way
Tbh, ottawa wasn‘t a contender when they made the conference finals either. They barely got into playoffs and had a run, not like they were a top 10 team that year
I hate that you've included Columbus without talking about what actually happened.. They knew Panarin and Bobrovsky were almost certainly leaving, and they went all out adding talent while knowing this full well. I wish more teams would have the balls to do exactly what they did.
He did the same thing with Ottawa. Ignoring how due to the Karlsson and Hoffman drama being the driving force behind the team's collapse and how the teardown was the best decision they could have made as outside of Stone NONE of the "stars" have been the same since leaving Ottawa (ignoring Zbad, but even then that trade turned into Gustavsson and JBD so young future starting goalie, and a potential Top 6 D for Brassard which they got from the Zbad trade... that's a good trade). That and the "last three years" thing is annoying as you're comparing players in their prime to young kids who I REMIND you have played in two shortened seasons. Also, where did he get those stats as he showed inaccurate stats... are they pro-rated? And he did Connor Brown dirty. I also hate how he only basically says Tkachuck and Stutzle are there only stars as Norris, Chabot, Drake Batherson, what about their young promising prospects like Pinto, JBD, Sanderson, Brannstrom... it's just a very shallow analysis. Rob is one of the better hockey pundits, but he REALLY is bad for showing his work and really does not give all the information that contradicts his story.
@@Wexter0083 , I would also say Pageau is still valued for his penalty kill skills. However, I can understand why Ottawa traded him. He was traded because he and Ottawa couldn't agree on an extension, which was why he was traded at the deadline for picks. Question comes down to "is he really worth the 5 million cap hit that he wanted?" The 2019-2020 was his career year (if it wasn't cut short), and was his second best year of his career by a single point. This last season he went 14-14-28 in 54 games, which is still pretty good (for a second line center, right?). Then there was Bobby Ryan's drinking which helped his downward trend, and the downward trend of his line mates. *Shrugs* On the other hand, was he even a Star? *Thinks*
@@aralornwolf3140 Pageau and Stone are the only two players that I wish Ottawa could have kept... but I understand why they didn't. Stone didn't want to stay for a rebuild (which sucks considering Duchene did, but you can't compare the two) and Pageau wanted 5mill which Ottawa did not see as healthy longterm deal considering we had Norris, Pinto and White already making up our Top 9 in the next two seasons. At least we got a first round pick for Pageau which turned into Ridly Greig who very much so is a Pageau like player. He is responsible at both ends of the ice and has good offensive instincts. ONLY differences is Greig is a major pest while Pageau wasn't so we'll see how the two compare in a couple seasons. Overall I like Rob, but he really botched his analysis of Ottawa's situation. I also REALLY like the team Ottawa has put together and I can see something really special in this squad. That is more than I can say for rebuilds like Edmonton and Buffalo's where they did not seem to have any real plan outside of Draft in the Top 5 and hope they can turn it around. Ottawa has a real identity playing under DJ Smith. Play hard, get into the dirty areas and score however possible. It doesn't need to be pretty, but once you have that lead make the opponent regret that they underestimated you. And considering despite their awful start they were never shutout last seasons I have a lot of trust in DJ as our coach moving forward... thank you Toronto?
*All these teams have Well performing players, tailing off elsewhere. We in Anaheim, have Bob Murray going from GM, to also Coach, and running us onto the tracks of an oncoming train, and then into the ground.*
Means nothing if they can't translate that to the playoffs. McDavid helps the Oilers a lot, but he is also the teams weakness. If the other team shuts him down, there isn''t enough skill and grind on the roster to outscore the opposition regularly. Edmonton's lack of defence becomes exposed when you lose half your offensive touch. Going to have trouble finding enough wins in the playoffs when the play becomes so much tighter.
As a Red Wings fan, time and time again I expressed how glad I am that Ken Holland is no longer the GM in Detroit, his strategies as a GM are so old school now and I’ll be surprised if he doesn’t get fired after 2 or 3 seasons in Edmonton.
From an outsider looking in, Kenny will probably be chased out after 2 more years. Max 4 when draisaitl needs a new contract. I don't care for the Oilers, so I'm excited to see how much more he screws those fans over
To Oilers fans who are still bitter about Chris Pronger's trade request out of Edmonton, don't get mad at him...BLAME HIS WIFE WHO DIDN'T WANT ANYTHING TO DO WITH EDMONTON IT'S ALL HER FAULT AND SHE SHOULD BE PUBLIC ENEMY #1!!!! CHRIS PRONGER IS A LEGEND AND YOU CAN'T BLAME SOMEONE WHO REQUESTED A TRADE BECAUSE OF HIS WIFE'S REQUEST!!! SO HIS WIFE IS THE REAL VILLAIN HERE!
Johnny Gaudreau just signed a contract with Columbus, and they start the season 3-9. Meanwhile, a team Gaudreau considered signing with in the New Jersey Devils, are off to a 9-3 start. Can't fault Gaudreau on this, but I bet he's beginning to regret his decision.
Sens got better, karlson you could tell would never be the same since his injury, sens had a plan with alot of your guys! Drop the older guys and make a wicked team! Stone playoff flop lol Hoffman no d, ceci just trash, methot was to help karlson, had drop Ryan $$ Dizingel well Lmao so I'm glad it happend was worth it! Young guys will carry them watch would of made playoffs if full season! The sens acctully did alot of good stuff this past year! This year will be a big jump! When you have this many top prospect you need to roll with em they need EXP asap!
Sharks absolutely sucked right after they let joe pavelski go, and in my opinion made things worse by letting go peter deboer and replacing him with a guy who looks drunk and got into a bar fight the previous night before a game (bob boughner). peter deboer was the best coach the sharks have ever had, you can’t change my mind.
Pinning Oiler's misfortunes to a 15 year old trade is a bit harsh... It certainly doesn't help, but with all the high picks they've gotten in the years(and the quality of those players) really should've given them a far better roster to build around... Its kinda like how in Vancouver, what we need is someone with a better cap management head on their shoulders to take the cap decisions out of Benning's hands. That and probably buffer some of the Aquilini's kneejerk moves in favor of a longer term objectives(or generally a long term vision for the team instead of caving to bandwagoner pressure).
to be honest… as a columbus fan we’re better off not keeping all of the guys. would’ve had 40+ mil tied up in four players, and not one of them was a #1 center. imagine a team hamstrung like the leafs, but they don’t have a #1 center. the leafs can get guys to take discounts because original six and being a huge city. the leafs are also flush with cash. the jackets… one of the newest franchises, and virtually no one would take a discount to live in a college town with bad weather. plus the jackets lose money year in and year out (even before the pandemic) they were never a serious cup contender either. never finished above third in the metro, one playoff series win, that 50 win team was a bit fluky outside of a huge winning streak midseason.
As a jackets fan I blame John Davidson. We all knew bread and Bob were leaving. Instead of planning for the future and trading them he just let them go for free. One of them to his own new team. Dirt bag
Adam Foote, whose face was smashed into the boards on an uncalled illegal check, and would spawn a decade of bloody reprisal shots on both teams, would like a word with this list.
I mean yeah once the sens got to the dumpster it made sense to blow it up. Management made so many stupid moves getting there tho it's hard to give them any credit for making the right choice at the end
"John Tortorella, the heartbeat of the team was gone" lol Torts is the reason half of those players got shipped out. Panarin, Bobrovski, and Dubois in particular didn't want to hear his bullshit anymore.
My Devils were a solid team went into the final round of Stanley cup, but lost to the kings in round 6. Then during the off season Zach Parise (the captain) left for the Wilds. The lockout came. And after the lockout Kovalchuk decides to retire nhl and play in russia instead. So the upcoming season after lockout Devils had lost two 30+ goal scorer and top 10 (in the entire nhl) point producers. Naturally losing two core offensive pieces that was impossible to replace sent NJD down to be a mediocre at best team. Which we havent recovered from yet.
You forgot about the Blackhawks. I’m fed up with Stan Bowman and want him fired for hiding the sexual assault allegations and for making many bad moves
What about the Ducks. They made the Conference finals in 2017 and lost against Nashville in 6, then got rid of Perry and lost 16 straight games and never found offensive footing again
Hey Rob if it helps Pronger did sleep with that women. Our old goalie Tommy Salo left for the same reason, someone on the team slept with his wife too and also Draisaitl has slept with one of Nurse’s family members too…. Famous shenanigans known in Edmonton
It's kinda weird, both Boqvist and Jones are playing better with their new teams. Mainly the former compared to the latter, Jones has had a few turnovers that turned into goals for the opposing team but he's still been an important role on the Hawks offense with all his assists. Last year it seemed like no one would pass the puck to prime positions like he's doing this year so I'm digging him for the time being.
To be honest, I don't see how the Oilers drop off was all Pronger's fault. Remember these are rumors, and on top of that they were from his Wife, not him. I was always a fan of Chris Pronger. Such an awesome leader ion the lockeroom and an absolute tank on the ice.
Honestly feel terrible for the blue jackets and their fans. They could’ve been a powerhouse in the league but tortorella threw that right out the window
Can you name a team who FELL APART? Also, thanks for the support everyone! I am feeling much better.
Seattle Space Cadets
The Atlanta Flames
sharks
Detroit,ottawa,san jose,anaheim,los angeles
You could say vacouver but they are about to become a great team
Being a jackets fan, my life has been a Rollercoaster
That’s tough
Are you a browns fan to?
@@brandong1246 eagles :p
Loved me some Rick Nash, and loved me some Michael Vick.
Well I’m leafs fan and my roller coaster 🎢 is crazy during the playoffs
@@icebreaker1264 same, but at the same time we have the sinking feeling of what is inevitable
also, on Bob leaving- it was 100% better off for the team and their goaltending actually got better and cheaper
Only Elvis Merzlikins was better
Better?
Hmm yes that's why they collapsed
@@Yomasi by better he means comparing Elvis to bob since he’s left
@@leafsfanforever2896 merz and kiv(may kiv rest in peace)
You make good videos. Just found your channel recently , been enjoying ever since.
I would say the Detroit Red Wings, but with them, it was more of a slow decline into a slow rebuild. Which is oddly fitting for Motor City
Yea that was rough fans screamed rebuild after losing to Boston but Holland like corporate foundation bleed the team til it's dry lol
It's a good day when you upload.
2019 OFFSEASON WINNERS: New York Rangers. Blue Jackets win Bobrovsky signing with Florida.
2020-21: Despite Merzlikins’ success, the Blue Jackets finish 3rd last in defense and near dead last in the league
It scares me how similar Edmonton’s story is to Montreal’s so far. At least Montreal’s superstar is just out, he’s not traded. Hopefully we can come back stronger next year.
Surprised you didn't mention the Sharks. They went from competing for the Cup every year (albeit coming up short every time), to being an old as dirt team with only a few promising prospects. Not to mention Doug Wilson locking up everyone for nearly a decade, still thinking that this team can compete
I remember going to all of the ducks playoff games in 2006 and 2007, And being shocked by how good that Pronger-led Edmonton team was in The WCF. I knew the duck were screwed when Dwayne Roloson Made a long pass to Forward who scored a shorthanded goal for the Oilers. And then the Pronger trade happened… And then the ducks cup run happened in 2007
That pronger trade result says more about the oilers team than it does about pronger.
I'll always think that the Hawks would be contenders today, if they signed Panarin with an 8x8 instead of the sign & trade for Saad. Just subtract Dach, Jones, and Strome and add Nick Schmaltz and the team still would look good.
That ending lol
I'm a jackets fan and when we traded for those players we knew they didn't want to stay. Things are looking up those woth sillinger and chinocove and we have multiple first round picks our goaltending is superb we are Def rebuilding but in a few years we will be right back where we were
My 2017-18 Dallas stars fell apart the final month of the season. Going from a 70%+ chance of making the playoffs to being eliminated with several games left
They've had unexpected success the past 2 seasons though
Alright I’m just gonna say this: The Rangers firing all of their management in the middle of a largely successful rebuild, Trading Pavel Buchnevich, and signing Ryan Reeves and Jared Tinordi to multiyear deals because Tom Wilson is a mean mean man….is the reason why people love Tom Wilson. I actually have grown to like Tom Wilson because of this. Just seeing one man take up that much real estate in the heads of the wealthiest NHL franchise in the world just actually makes me like the guy. I’m not sorry.
Same thing happened with Pittsburgh as well
This video kinda aged like fine wine IMO
You forgot to mention that in the two years Ken Holland has been the Oilers GM they have been a better team.
Idk the fact that they resigned Mike Smith to a multi-year deal, then dropped down in the recent draft after leaving Wallstedt on the board then banking on a random top 6 in Hyman to play well with McDavid like they tried with Kahun and Neal. Unless they make it past the first round, I can't bring myself to say they improved. Even if Wallstedt was never on Holland's mind that is still extremely ignorant to leave a goalie like that when the entire fanbase has concerns about the net.
Better? Yes. Good? No.
I would also make the argument that they are improving from internal development that Holland had nothing to do with
@@RobTalksHockey and a bad gym would have messed with that like Chia did in the years after the Oilers made the playoffs in 2017. Everybody has forgotten the good moves Holland has made, he some how was able to trade Lucic for a contract that didn’t need protecting in the expansion draft and was much easier to buyout and every other gym in the league would have traded JP but Holland stood pat and now the Oilers have a blossoming star in the making, he was able to a great deal for nuge.
Wait until he signs a bottom 6 a $6M deal and a third line defense $8M deal
Ken Holland wasn’t that great of a GM once salary cap was a thing. He knows how to throw money at the players, but he doesn’t know how to manage money into the salary cap. Speaking as a Wongs fan who Ken was GM of before Oilers
The Bobrovsky contract was bad. The Jones contract was questionable. Can't argue the Panarin contract. It doesn't happen in Columbus that much. Hyperbole. Nash stayed for his best years, so that doesn't fly. You also forgot Savard. That actually is a pretty big loss.
does he respond ?
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Alex Hemsky was never a emerging superstar, lol. Ridiculous statement
In his 3rd season at the age of 22 he had a 77 point season with 16 minutes of icetime.
With how it's going, will hockey change so that certain players get to do what they want on the ice (pond hockey) while others do the hard work, play defense, and get paid 1/3 to 1/8 what the stars get, all while playing the same TOI. And if Edmonton kept Eberle, Hamonic, they'd be better now.
Hamonic never played for the Oilers.
Toronto has been the laughing stock of the league for the past 50 years
*shows picture of Ken Holland*
Red Wings fans: "HA HA HA!"
How about the Sabres when they lost Briere, Drury, Campbell, Zubrus, Numinin, and Kalinin within a year of each other
Isn't talked about enough
Absolutely. That team has been a laughingstock for YEARS.
The Peghoulies are utterly incompetent.
The Montreal Canadiens fell apart after they traded Patrick Roy
Don't remind us Habs fans.
Worst trade in the history of sports
@@Dj_Real_Eyes_Open Red Sox trading Babe Ruth to the Yankees was the worst trade in history, but the Roy trade is certainly up there.
You mean when he quit mid game
@M B Roy was huge for them but they also had a good team in front of him.
"This right here is the last time Edmonton oilers fans were happy" lol.. reminds me of that Simpsons episode where Bart pauses the TV to see the exact second Ralph wiggums heart breaks
Imo Columbus fleeced Chicago in the Seth Jones trade
Hehe that end bit with Ken Holland was very funny 👍
Most underrated RUclips channel:
Rob Talks Hockey
Love the vids, they just keep getting better and better.
As a Montreal fan, I don’t know how to feel anymore. We went from Stanley cup finals to 2nd last in the entire NHL.
Maybe the Sens were really just a flash in the pan? as in they overachieved or were collectively "in the zone".. Look, it happens on occasion. Some teams just do better than anticipated, they have that good season but then they come back down to earth.. Keep in mind there are a lot of factors that really determine how successful a team can be and all those factors really have to align to make it happen.. I mean some teams look fantastic on paper, but in practice they may not have chemistry, not to mention teams need to stay healthy and of course cohesion needs to be there to have a strong team and if any of these factors are disrupted it can really hurt a team and if a team is hurt long enough it can really cause an implosion.. Not only that but then the GM starts making bad moves and it can turn into a tire fire really quickly, and the next thing you know you have a top 5 pick at the draft and somehow manage to mess that up by previously trading it...
i mean the jackets have had the same amount (more if you include the play in vs. Toronto) of post season success since losing Panarin/Bob/Duchene as their respective teams. Going all in was worth it
Will soon change with the Rangers and Panthers more than likely both making the playoffs
If Ottawa just had of scored in that double OT we would have easily won the cup and the next few years would have been more bearable because it would have happened either way
I dont think edmonton was really on the come-up. Chris Pronger carried that team to the Cup Finals. They were a carcass once he left.
Tbh, ottawa wasn‘t a contender when they made the conference finals either. They barely got into playoffs and had a run, not like they were a top 10 team that year
I like cbj, but their luck sucks #**. I hate it, but we did get good value from the Seth Jones trade
Jarmo Kekalainen is doing well rebuilding the Jackets. Hopefully they'll stay somewhat competitive.
the contracts that bob, duchene, and jones signed are some of the worst in the league. glad the jackets aren’t paying that
@@kwanzaa_cake yeh, but if they don't wanna be here, fine. Go wreck another team.
Glad to see these cbj fans. 5th line!
I hate that you've included Columbus without talking about what actually happened.. They knew Panarin and Bobrovsky were almost certainly leaving, and they went all out adding talent while knowing this full well. I wish more teams would have the balls to do exactly what they did.
He did the same thing with Ottawa. Ignoring how due to the Karlsson and Hoffman drama being the driving force behind the team's collapse and how the teardown was the best decision they could have made as outside of Stone NONE of the "stars" have been the same since leaving Ottawa (ignoring Zbad, but even then that trade turned into Gustavsson and JBD so young future starting goalie, and a potential Top 6 D for Brassard which they got from the Zbad trade... that's a good trade). That and the "last three years" thing is annoying as you're comparing players in their prime to young kids who I REMIND you have played in two shortened seasons. Also, where did he get those stats as he showed inaccurate stats... are they pro-rated? And he did Connor Brown dirty. I also hate how he only basically says Tkachuck and Stutzle are there only stars as Norris, Chabot, Drake Batherson, what about their young promising prospects like Pinto, JBD, Sanderson, Brannstrom... it's just a very shallow analysis.
Rob is one of the better hockey pundits, but he REALLY is bad for showing his work and really does not give all the information that contradicts his story.
@@Wexter0083 ,
I would also say Pageau is still valued for his penalty kill skills.
However, I can understand why Ottawa traded him. He was traded because he and Ottawa couldn't agree on an extension, which was why he was traded at the deadline for picks. Question comes down to "is he really worth the 5 million cap hit that he wanted?" The 2019-2020 was his career year (if it wasn't cut short), and was his second best year of his career by a single point. This last season he went 14-14-28 in 54 games, which is still pretty good (for a second line center, right?).
Then there was Bobby Ryan's drinking which helped his downward trend, and the downward trend of his line mates. *Shrugs*
On the other hand, was he even a Star? *Thinks*
@@aralornwolf3140 Pageau and Stone are the only two players that I wish Ottawa could have kept... but I understand why they didn't. Stone didn't want to stay for a rebuild (which sucks considering Duchene did, but you can't compare the two) and Pageau wanted 5mill which Ottawa did not see as healthy longterm deal considering we had Norris, Pinto and White already making up our Top 9 in the next two seasons. At least we got a first round pick for Pageau which turned into Ridly Greig who very much so is a Pageau like player. He is responsible at both ends of the ice and has good offensive instincts. ONLY differences is Greig is a major pest while Pageau wasn't so we'll see how the two compare in a couple seasons.
Overall I like Rob, but he really botched his analysis of Ottawa's situation. I also REALLY like the team Ottawa has put together and I can see something really special in this squad. That is more than I can say for rebuilds like Edmonton and Buffalo's where they did not seem to have any real plan outside of Draft in the Top 5 and hope they can turn it around. Ottawa has a real identity playing under DJ Smith. Play hard, get into the dirty areas and score however possible. It doesn't need to be pretty, but once you have that lead make the opponent regret that they underestimated you. And considering despite their awful start they were never shutout last seasons I have a lot of trust in DJ as our coach moving forward... thank you Toronto?
The sens fall was really rough to go through
Rob: "I LOVED the Jones trade..."
Me, a Blackhawks fan: "Shut up! I don't wanna talk about it!"
The goldeneye music is legendary!
*All these teams have Well performing players, tailing off elsewhere. We in Anaheim, have Bob Murray going from GM, to also Coach, and running us onto the tracks of an oncoming train, and then into the ground.*
I feel like Columbus did better in 2019-2020 than all the teams that our "best" players left for
Where's the lie though?
@@magenstaffarts what do u mean?
being an oilers fan, it has been a sad long decade lol. But the oilers seem to be freakin popping off this year.
Means nothing if they can't translate that to the playoffs. McDavid helps the Oilers a lot, but he is also the teams weakness. If the other team shuts him down, there isn''t enough skill and grind on the roster to outscore the opposition regularly. Edmonton's lack of defence becomes exposed when you lose half your offensive touch. Going to have trouble finding enough wins in the playoffs when the play becomes so much tighter.
As a Red Wings fan, time and time again I expressed how glad I am that Ken Holland is no longer the GM in Detroit, his strategies as a GM are so old school now and I’ll be surprised if he doesn’t get fired after 2 or 3 seasons in Edmonton.
From an outsider looking in, Kenny will probably be chased out after 2 more years. Max 4 when draisaitl needs a new contract. I don't care for the Oilers, so I'm excited to see how much more he screws those fans over
To Oilers fans who are still bitter about Chris Pronger's trade request out of Edmonton, don't get mad at him...BLAME HIS WIFE WHO DIDN'T WANT ANYTHING TO DO WITH EDMONTON IT'S ALL HER FAULT AND SHE SHOULD BE PUBLIC ENEMY #1!!!! CHRIS PRONGER IS A LEGEND AND YOU CAN'T BLAME SOMEONE WHO REQUESTED A TRADE BECAUSE OF HIS WIFE'S REQUEST!!! SO HIS WIFE IS THE REAL VILLAIN HERE!
Johnny Gaudreau just signed a contract with Columbus, and they start the season 3-9. Meanwhile, a team Gaudreau considered signing with in the New Jersey Devils, are off to a 9-3 start. Can't fault Gaudreau on this, but I bet he's beginning to regret his decision.
Sens got better, karlson you could tell would never be the same since his injury, sens had a plan with alot of your guys! Drop the older guys and make a wicked team! Stone playoff flop lol Hoffman no d, ceci just trash, methot was to help karlson, had drop Ryan $$ Dizingel well Lmao so I'm glad it happend was worth it! Young guys will carry them watch would of made playoffs if full season! The sens acctully did alot of good stuff this past year! This year will be a big jump! When you have this many top prospect you need to roll with em they need EXP asap!
The ending was on another level.
Sharks absolutely sucked right after they let joe pavelski go, and in my opinion made things worse by letting go peter deboer and replacing him with a guy who looks drunk and got into a bar fight the previous night before a game (bob boughner).
peter deboer was the best coach the sharks have ever had, you can’t change my mind.
Pinning Oiler's misfortunes to a 15 year old trade is a bit harsh... It certainly doesn't help, but with all the high picks they've gotten in the years(and the quality of those players) really should've given them a far better roster to build around... Its kinda like how in Vancouver, what we need is someone with a better cap management head on their shoulders to take the cap decisions out of Benning's hands. That and probably buffer some of the Aquilini's kneejerk moves in favor of a longer term objectives(or generally a long term vision for the team instead of caving to bandwagoner pressure).
to be honest… as a columbus fan we’re better off not keeping all of the guys. would’ve had 40+ mil tied up in four players, and not one of them was a #1 center.
imagine a team hamstrung like the leafs, but they don’t have a #1 center. the leafs can get guys to take discounts because original six and being a huge city. the leafs are also flush with cash. the jackets… one of the newest franchises, and virtually no one would take a discount to live in a college town with bad weather. plus the jackets lose money year in and year out (even before the pandemic)
they were never a serious cup contender either. never finished above third in the metro, one playoff series win, that 50 win team was a bit fluky outside of a huge winning streak midseason.
Jackets didn’t fall apart Directly after Panarin and them leaving. Cbj made the playoffs and bob and Panarin didn’t that season.
Brazilian Sens fan here. I started watching the NHL after the 2017 Stanley Cup Playoffs... so you can imagine lol
As a jackets fan I blame John Davidson. We all knew bread and Bob were leaving. Instead of planning for the future and trading them he just let them go for free. One of them to his own new team. Dirt bag
I haven't followed hockey since I was 13 and played atom but these videos are great
You should do a colab with ohnyquist. You guys are both around the same amount of subs and both have quality content!!
Being a Jacket fan is a curse and has been two decades of mostly pain
Just saying…l. If the sens were to go to the 2017 cup final, they would have won
Adam Foote, whose face was smashed into the boards on an uncalled illegal check, and would spawn a decade of bloody reprisal shots on both teams, would like a word with this list.
I don't know if I would say Mark Stone is the best player drafted in that year but he was definitly was the biggest steal of this draft
If you’ve ever lived in Edmonton you know damn well why prongers wife hated Edmonton
The Vancouver saucks so bad and bruace will be gone 5 years Max's petterson has less points than troy tarrey
Good analysis Rob...The Schitt storm in Ottawa and Edmonton was epic...Leafs possibly next???
@@HAA0603 Leafs have a smaller window than people think. The window had about 3 more years before a retool is next.
Jarmo will save Columbus
As a long standing oilers fan. I forsee a really good season coming up with a 1st/ 2nd round exit and then about 6 years of no playoffs after...
Ken holland Honorable mention: Cody Ceci signing
I mean yeah once the sens got to the dumpster it made sense to blow it up. Management made so many stupid moves getting there tho it's hard to give them any credit for making the right choice at the end
My Vancouver Canucks.... /facepawm :(
Former Blackhawks have more goals than the current team. even before the Hagel trade.
you wanna talk about a rise and a fall?? look no further than the blackhawks, man…
Darnell Nurse is worth every penny of that contract. Any one who thinks otherwise needs to research better
A single move? I Think u mean a Single WOMAN 😅😅😅
It looks like the oilers are over that dry hump the way they are playing this year
is duschane a cancer or something he is fetaured alot in this video
"John Tortorella, the heartbeat of the team was gone" lol Torts is the reason half of those players got shipped out. Panarin, Bobrovski, and Dubois in particular didn't want to hear his bullshit anymore.
That's the sad truth, to be honest. Honestly, I feel like Brad Larsen is going to do much better.
Matt Duchene is a curse for any team he is drafted to😂
Stone better than Zibanejad ? Sorry ... No
this years Habs team could be on there😂
What kind of Asian are you ?
yeah bad signings by the oilers huh
Who thinks Matthew tkachuk and monahan for Tim stuzle and a 2nd a good trade.
I would rather see Johnny and Monahan + draft picks for Eichel
Chabot is the only Senator left oooooof
You never played hockey
Met Pageau today at costco in kanata
Some n64 vibes in this video.
Montreal Canadians 😢
can I have a shoutout please
1:03 North America 🤔
Buffalo crashed and burned when they lost their 2010 core
Lmao funny how the end of this video looks mildly stupid now 🤣💀
Lol yeah, Hyman's been a beauty and lives up to his contract. (At least so far)
My Devils were a solid team went into the final round of Stanley cup, but lost to the kings in round 6. Then during the off season Zach Parise (the captain) left for the Wilds. The lockout came. And after the lockout Kovalchuk decides to retire nhl and play in russia instead. So the upcoming season after lockout Devils had lost two 30+ goal scorer and top 10 (in the entire nhl) point producers. Naturally losing two core offensive pieces that was impossible to replace sent NJD down to be a mediocre at best team. Which we havent recovered from yet.
You forgot about the Blackhawks. I’m fed up with Stan Bowman and want him fired for hiding the sexual assault allegations and for making many bad moves
What about the Ducks. They made the Conference finals in 2017 and lost against Nashville in 6, then got rid of Perry and lost 16 straight games and never found offensive footing again
Hey Rob if it helps Pronger did sleep with that women. Our old goalie Tommy Salo left for the same reason, someone on the team slept with his wife too and also Draisaitl has slept with one of Nurse’s family members too…. Famous shenanigans known in Edmonton
It's kinda weird, both Boqvist and Jones are playing better with their new teams. Mainly the former compared to the latter, Jones has had a few turnovers that turned into goals for the opposing team but he's still been an important role on the Hawks offense with all his assists. Last year it seemed like no one would pass the puck to prime positions like he's doing this year so I'm digging him for the time being.
To be honest, I don't see how the Oilers drop off was all Pronger's fault. Remember these are rumors, and on top of that they were from his Wife, not him. I was always a fan of Chris Pronger. Such an awesome leader ion the lockeroom and an absolute tank on the ice.
60K in subs.. I think I subbed when you had like 3 lol.
Congrats Rob! Pumped for that next digit!
Honestly feel terrible for the blue jackets and their fans. They could’ve been a powerhouse in the league but tortorella threw that right out the window