Moses is massively overrated. His efficiency was terrible and his on/off splits and impact metrics show that his team was frequently better without him. He sure did rebound a lot of his own point-blank misses though! Your Philly list is fine.
A LOT of REALLY questionable decisions on this one SROS... Webber > Fox easily Wilt or Malone > Embiid easily Gervin > Kawhi or Parker McAdoo > Brand easily Randolph or Pau > Allen easily Some of these were pretty wild.
Moses is massively overrated. His efficiency was terrible, and his on/off splits and impact metrics show that his team was frequently better without him. He sure did rebound a lot of his own point-blank misses though! Embiid literally just came off a season where he averaged a point a minute on 64% true shooting. We've never seen that combination of scoring rate and efficiency. I hate watching him play and I don't think his game translates to the playoffs. But he's so much better than Malone.
No Rick Barry for warriors No Chris Webber for the kings No Jerry west for the lakers No George Gervin for the spurs No moses Malone or wilt chamberlain for the 76ers
I'd honestly put Tatum above John Havlicek. It's not like I think he has surpassed Havlicek in terms of legacy but I think for a team as successful as the Celtics you can just take the best player from every era of there championship runs. Russell in the 60s Bird in the 80s 90s.... Pierce 2000s Tatum 2020s
@@krolossi1 Ok that fine. Is just John was 8-0 in the finals, and this generation just don’t cared about old players even though they were more successful compared to today were people say you need to be a scorer to win.
@@krolossi1 yes I can see putting Tatum over Havlicek in the future, but the reason I chose this was because Havlicek won two titles for us in the post Bill Russell era and was the face of our team in the 70s.
@@krolossi1Havilcek was one of 3 best players in the 70s and an outstanding and all around basketball player especially defensively and his shooting, real tough to rank Tatum over Havicek
Manu isn't even the best shooting guard from the spurs... it's George Gervin and kawhi kinda has to stay over Parker cause his fmvp is just more valuable. Really sad breaking up the most win trio tho
Putting Kawhi Leonard over George Gervin is ridiculous. Top 3 are obvious: Duncan, Robinson, Gervin. Only tough call is Ginobili vs Parker for the fourth spot.
@luka7542 I am not sure about Gervin but Harden is definitely not top 5. To be top 5 at any position but especially SG and C, you have to be one of the best on both ends of the floor. Harden is hard pressed to shut some one down for a play let alone a game. MJ, Kobe, and West could not only score at will but could shut down opposing players as well. (For clarity I never saw West play so that is based on reputation).
Thank you for not lumping the Sonics in with OKC. Mainstream media does this and it pisses off Sonics fans. With that said, Rashard Lewis shouldn't be on Mount Rushmore for the Sonics. It should be someone like Dennis Johnson, Nate McMillan, or Ray Allen.
putting haliburton there after 2 seasons and just 1 conference finals appearance(granted only bc of injuries to bucks and knicks) is wild my bro.i love tyrese,got his 2 jerseys from indiana and love his game but putting him on the mount rushmore if this team is just unreasonable
My rushmore for the lakers has to be Kobe, Magic, Mikan and West. Shaq, Kareem, Lebron, Baylor, Wilt and more are fantastic yes but Mikan got the Lakers 5 championships and was not only one of if not the first basketball superstar but also was nicknamed Mr. Basketball, did he mention his team were the first to theee peat? My argument for Jerry west is that he was not only called Mr outside but aleo is called The Logo, he may have only gotten one championship but when u are faced off against Bill Russell and that nightmare horror show of a Celtic's beast, you should be happy if you scored double digits.
Mt. Rushmore is a place that should be celebrated as the best and most loved players in the franchise and there is no way Spurs fans honor Kawhi if he's in the Mt. Rushmore. Timmy, David, Gervin and Ginobili should be the correct answer
Id go Jordan Pippen Rodman (dont want to leave the trio that won whole 6 champs toghether) and then D Rose.Gilmore great player obv but just how i see it as a Bulls fan
As a cavs fans I think eventually Donovan Mitchell will be up there, made an all NBA team, and 2x all star(with Cavs), 71 points(franchise record), and 2 playoff appearances
When you said you had 5 guys for the Spurs, I didn't even consider Kawhi Leonard. He's a distant 6th behind Duncan, Robinson, Gervin, Parker, and Ginobili.
Couple massive fumbles, Jerry West gotta be there instead of either Kareem or Shaq, Webber gotta be in there instead of De’Aaron Fox although Fox will probably overtake him, Ron Artest gotta be there for Indy instead of Hali although I fully expect Hali to take him over
Shaq over West is reasonable. Unpopular opinion I'd actually take West over Kobe who I think is big overrated but Shaq at his best rivaled MJ and LeBron.
Toronto - Carter, Bosh, Kyle, DeMar with a shout out to Spicy P and T-Mac, yes Kawhi got us a title but I'd argue we were the deepest we'd ever been with FVV and OG as well. Kawhi's spot was a plug and play if you put someone else like Dame for example in the same spot we'd probs still have won. So no Kawhi for me
I’m a Lakers fan and I agree with all 4 of your Mount Rushmore selections. As for Sac Town, how could you choose Cousins and Peja over Chris Webber? He was awesome there for approximately 7 seasons. Obviously you forgot about Webber or else you would have picked him over Cousins and Peja.
woulda had myles turner over haliburton for the pacers tbh. tyrese will 100% get there one day but for now myles turner is absolutely beloved by pacers fans and he's one of like 5 pacers in the franchise's history to play 10+ years and is the all time leading blocker for the franchise.
Yah I agree. I would have chosen him over Shaquille O’Neal because West was the face of the Lakers during the 60s and early 70s and brought the city of LA its first championship in 1972.
Gervin for the spurs. Barry for golden state. And every celtics fan knows the core 4 are russell, Bird, cousey and havelicek. Pierce doesn't get close because cowens and mchale are in front of him as well.
As much as I love Barkley as a sixer, wilt and Moses were more valuable to them having both won championships and mvps with the 76ers, neither of which Barkley did.
Spurs have to be Tim Duncan, David Robinson obviously. After that, its 2 out of 3 for George Gervin, Manu Ginobili and Tony Parker. Kawaii didnt play long enough with the spurs and his exit was less than cordial. I would go with George Gervin and Ginobili myself, but I would not argue Parker over Ginobili. I would however argue either one of them over George Gervin. Gervin made the all top 75 NBA players list. You cannot leave him off the list.
C Webb not on the bullets or kings is crazy Ray Allen not on the Sonics or Bucks is crazy work Vince Carter not on the Raptors is crazy work and Moses Malone not on the 76ers is crazy work
Making a case for LeBron in LA mount rushmore instead of Jerry West is crazy. Don't get me wrong, LeBron is great, but he hasn't done enough to belong on the Lakers Mount rushmore.
I should’ve had Moses for Philly and Webber for SAC
That’s a L on me! Sorry about that
I was about to bring up Moses haha
Moses is massively overrated. His efficiency was terrible and his on/off splits and impact metrics show that his team was frequently better without him. He sure did rebound a lot of his own point-blank misses though! Your Philly list is fine.
And wilt for 76ers he won championship with them and 3 mvps led the league in assists
Thanks for commenting that! Now it makes more sense ❤
Naw the biggest problem was no Bob McAdoo XD
A LOT of REALLY questionable decisions on this one SROS...
Webber > Fox easily
Wilt or Malone > Embiid easily
Gervin > Kawhi or Parker
McAdoo > Brand easily
Randolph or Pau > Allen easily
Some of these were pretty wild.
rick barry maybe instead of green or thompson as well. also not taking embiid off, barkley has a worse resume with the 6ers imo.
Moses is massively overrated. His efficiency was terrible, and his on/off splits and impact metrics show that his team was frequently better without him. He sure did rebound a lot of his own point-blank misses though! Embiid literally just came off a season where he averaged a point a minute on 64% true shooting. We've never seen that combination of scoring rate and efficiency. I hate watching him play and I don't think his game translates to the playoffs. But he's so much better than Malone.
Idk about Jimmy over Shaq for Miami either
Fox over demarcus
@@rome8180Rings speak louder than points when talking the best of the best, and I’m an Embiid fan
Tony Allen over zach Randolph? Also shoulda been serge over collision for okc
Really shouldn’t have. OKC fans know how much collison means to them.
I think you forgot Chris Webber my guy😂
Yeah they gotta drop Fox or Boogie off that Rushmore 😂🤦🏾♂️
Drop Boogie for sure
What about CWebb in sac
Yeah, turned that club around. Got to pick him.
Criminal behavior.
mitch richmond
Yea I thought I was trippin
Chris Webber and Mitch Richmond literally had Hall of Fame careers during their time in Sacramento
No Rick Barry for warriors
No Chris Webber for the kings
No Jerry west for the lakers
No George Gervin for the spurs
No moses Malone or wilt chamberlain for the 76ers
Finally someone mentions Barry, thought I was going crazy
Lakers are just so stacked someone is going to be snubbed
No havelicheck for boston
@@CameronCorbitt-r9b W
@@kohsmoger1567facts I was thinking the same with Boston as well those type teams have to be a opinion base picks!
I’m a Celtics fan and my Mount Rushmore currently is Bill Russell, John Havlicek, Larry Bird, and Paul Pierce.
I'd honestly put Tatum above John Havlicek. It's not like I think he has surpassed Havlicek in terms of legacy but I think for a team as successful as the Celtics you can just take the best player from every era of there championship runs.
Russell in the 60s
Bird in the 80s
90s....
Pierce 2000s
Tatum 2020s
Bill is number one for you, if so I agree with you.
@@krolossi1 Ok that fine. Is just John was 8-0 in the finals, and this generation just don’t cared about old players even though they were more successful compared to today were people say you need to be a scorer to win.
@@krolossi1 yes I can see putting Tatum over Havlicek in the future, but the reason I chose this was because Havlicek won two titles for us in the post Bill Russell era and was the face of our team in the 70s.
@@krolossi1Havilcek was one of 3 best players in the 70s and an outstanding and all around basketball player especially defensively and his shooting, real tough to rank Tatum over Havicek
John Havlicek over McHale
Jerry West over Shaq
Manu over Kawhi
In my opinion…
Definitely
I’m guessing he said opposite
Definitely agree, but I would even put George Gervin over Manu or Kawhi.
Totally forgot bout Havlicek, i was even thinking Parish over McHale
Manu isn't even the best shooting guard from the spurs... it's George Gervin and kawhi kinda has to stay over Parker cause his fmvp is just more valuable. Really sad breaking up the most win trio tho
Yes
I'm so glad you added the text after the okc take. I was about to lose my mind.
Nets all time leading scorer brook lopez got snubbed by buck williams
thats what im saying
Brook lopez should be there men put out that buck williams shittt
Putting Kawhi Leonard over George Gervin is ridiculous. Top 3 are obvious: Duncan, Robinson, Gervin. Only tough call is Ginobili vs Parker for the fourth spot.
2 dpoy and and finals mvp beating one of the greatest teams of all time, I like the Ice man but if kawai made history with his defense.
Embiid over Wilt is a damn joke.
Keep Embiid, scrap AI
@@gabrieldodds9081scarp AI??? FUCK NO. Man what’s wrong with you.
@@gabrieldodds9081that's insane
Bro how is barkley over people like chamberlain or malone tf
How is Embiid over them
@@mitchellfishman206 i mean embiid has an mvp and multiple scoring champs barkley doesnt
I feel like it’s kind of disrespectful to not have Bob McAdoo for the clippers. He averaged 30 for over 3 seasons.
You wont find 1 single Spurs fan putting Leonard over Manu, Tony or Gervin.
Haliburton on the pacers one is absolutely insane…
No George Gervin love for Spurs?
Well David Robinson, Tim Duncan, Tony Parker, and Manu Ginobili were pretty obvious choices.
Gervin is a top 5 sg all time. He makes it into 3rd and it’s not even close
@@christopherhamill525 Top 5 sg of all time 😂😂😂 who is he better than jordan, kobe, harden, wade or west? He's not even top 6
Top 5 SG is a bit of a stretch, but he’s not far out of that conversation and definitely deserves to be there over Manu in my opinion. 👍
@luka7542 I am not sure about Gervin but Harden is definitely not top 5. To be top 5 at any position but especially SG and C, you have to be one of the best on both ends of the floor. Harden is hard pressed to shut some one down for a play let alone a game. MJ, Kobe, and West could not only score at will but could shut down opposing players as well. (For clarity I never saw West play so that is based on reputation).
no McAdoo for the clippers is absurd.
Thank you for not lumping the Sonics in with OKC. Mainstream media does this and it pisses off Sonics fans.
With that said, Rashard Lewis shouldn't be on Mount Rushmore for the Sonics. It should be someone like Dennis Johnson, Nate McMillan, or Ray Allen.
Right. DJ was literally a fmvp for them and ray was franchise player
@@neezduts_ And Nate McMillan was a glue guy who was known as "Mr. Sonic" while he was there.
As a Spurs fan, Kawhi should not be in over George Gervin or Manu. He might have FMVP but those two players meant much more to San Antonio than him
Clippers were the Buffalo Braves, then San Diego. How could Big Bob not be on their Mt. Rushmore over Deandre???😮😂
yooooo whats good SROS
putting haliburton there after 2 seasons and just 1 conference finals appearance(granted only bc of injuries to bucks and knicks) is wild my bro.i love tyrese,got his 2 jerseys from indiana and love his game but putting him on the mount rushmore if this team is just unreasonable
My rushmore for the lakers has to be Kobe, Magic, Mikan and West. Shaq, Kareem, Lebron, Baylor, Wilt and more are fantastic yes but Mikan got the Lakers 5 championships and was not only one of if not the first basketball superstar but also was nicknamed Mr. Basketball, did he mention his team were the first to theee peat? My argument for Jerry west is that he was not only called Mr outside but aleo is called The Logo, he may have only gotten one championship but when u are faced off against Bill Russell and that nightmare horror show of a Celtic's beast, you should be happy if you scored double digits.
So many wrongs here.
no Mathew Delly for Cleveland is crazy
Definitely forgot a few names, especially from the 60s and 70s, but great video nonetheless. Excellent idea for a video. Keep it up Matt! 👍👍
Bruh I love your videos but the recency bias in this videos is crazy 🤣
The fact that you had collison for OKC shows you did actual research on what these players really mean to their cities. Good job I’ll be subscribing.
Serge >
@@richardlewis7172 tell me you’re not from Oklahoma without telling me
@@zachhamilton8024 I’m from Texas but I know serge is highly regarded in okc.
@@richardlewis7172 he is that is true. But nothing like Collison.
Real list for Boston
Larry bird
Peirce
Russel
Havelicheck
HR Tatum
Bob Cousy
Kevin Mchale
Mt. Rushmore is a place that should be celebrated as the best and most loved players in the franchise and there is no way Spurs fans honor Kawhi if he's in the Mt. Rushmore. Timmy, David, Gervin and Ginobili should be the correct answer
Id go Jordan Pippen Rodman (dont want to leave the trio that won whole 6 champs toghether) and then D Rose.Gilmore great player obv but just how i see it as a Bulls fan
I’m sorry 6:55 but Dwight is undoubtedly better than shaq Orlando wise. He did everything shaq did and more
Another brilliant idea bro damn youre unique and just pumping oht the content. Salute
As a die hard thunder fan from Okc and as much as we love nick collison here it’s wild you put him on the franchise Mount Rushmore
Hope you just forgot
Clippers: McAdoo over Deandre
Warriors: Barry over Draymond
Rockets: Hayes over Yao
Sonics: Allen or Wilkens over Rashard
As a 76ers fan not having Moses Malone is absolutely criminal. Won an MVP and FMVP.
As a cavs fans I think eventually Donovan Mitchell will be up there, made an all NBA team, and 2x all star(with Cavs), 71 points(franchise record), and 2 playoff appearances
Great video but you have to include:
-Jerry West to the Lakers
-Dikembe Mutombo to the Hawks
When you said you had 5 guys for the Spurs, I didn't even consider Kawhi Leonard. He's a distant 6th behind Duncan, Robinson, Gervin, Parker, and Ginobili.
Sick concept of a video
12:17 that picture is WILD LMAO
Did dude just forget about Bob McAdoo? He should be #1 for the clippers
11:18 suggesting lebrons time in LA was better or at a similar level to a 3peat and MVP is insane
Glen Rice for the hornets
This Kat pick aged well two weeks later
Hornets best player is morning
For the kings, all time: Oscar, Tiny, Mitch, Chris. Sac only: Mitch, Chris, Peja, DeMarcus (Domas and DeAaron close though)
a role player mount rushmore for each team would be cool too
As a Blazers fan, I think you got it right. Terry Porter could also replace Aldridge.
Couple massive fumbles, Jerry West gotta be there instead of either Kareem or Shaq, Webber gotta be in there instead of De’Aaron Fox although Fox will probably overtake him, Ron Artest gotta be there for Indy instead of Hali although I fully expect Hali to take him over
2 guys who will be passed soon and someone who played in the 50s are big fumbles?
Shaq over West is reasonable. Unpopular opinion I'd actually take West over Kobe who I think is big overrated but Shaq at his best rivaled MJ and LeBron.
@@dajoe9877West entered the league in 1960 but okay LMAO
no Harden for OKC is crazy, still to this day he is their only sixth man of the year for franchise
You forgot about Brook Lopez for the Nets. Lopez is the Nets all time leader scorer in franchise history
When it’s all said and done, the Nets’ Mount Rushmore will be Cooper Flagg, Cam Thomas, Nic Claxton, and Noah Clowney 😤
“If a guy gets a finals mvp with his team he’s gotta go on there”
Proceeds to not even acknowledge Andre igodala for the warriors….
Havlicek or Cousy over Paul PIerce
Of course!
On ur pod u should draft players who played their college balls in North Carolina (Jordan, curry, Duncan, cp3, Vince Carter and more)
disrespectful to George Gervin, he's the 3rd best player in spurs history.
Toronto - Carter, Bosh, Kyle, DeMar with a shout out to Spicy P and T-Mac, yes Kawhi got us a title but I'd argue we were the deepest we'd ever been with FVV and OG as well. Kawhi's spot was a plug and play if you put someone else like Dame for example in the same spot we'd probs still have won. So no Kawhi for me
I’m a Lakers fan and I agree with all 4 of your Mount Rushmore selections. As for Sac Town, how could you choose Cousins and Peja over Chris Webber? He was awesome there for approximately 7 seasons. Obviously you forgot about Webber or else you would have picked him over Cousins and Peja.
Brook Lopez should definitely be on The Nets Mount Rushmore
How can you not have Jerry West on the Lakers Mount Rushmore? He's the freaking logo for the Association.
woulda had myles turner over haliburton for the pacers tbh. tyrese will 100% get there one day but for now myles turner is absolutely beloved by pacers fans and he's one of like 5 pacers in the franchise's history to play 10+ years and is the all time leading blocker for the franchise.
Big Z should be on the cavs,one of the most underrated big men
Jerry west got snubbed
Yah I agree. I would have chosen him over Shaquille O’Neal because West was the face of the Lakers during the 60s and early 70s and brought the city of LA its first championship in 1972.
Havlicek is the Celtics all time leading scorer and went 8-0 in the finals.
Wilt not in Phillies that’s crazy
Feel if you were worried about depth on Charlotte, could've gone either Alonzo Mourning or Mugsy Bogues
Gervin for the spurs. Barry for golden state. And every celtics fan knows the core 4 are russell, Bird, cousey and havelicek. Pierce doesn't get close because cowens and mchale are in front of him as well.
2014 kawhi for the spurs is insane when gorge gervin is waaay more important
Siakam should make the Raptors Mt. Rushmore. Second most important player on their title team. And Chris Webber definitely makes it for the Kings.
Moses Molane disrespected is crazy. You guys let me know.🤔
Btw in 76ers not Houston.
As much as I love Barkley as a sixer, wilt and Moses were more valuable to them having both won championships and mvps with the 76ers, neither of which Barkley did.
No pau gasol for Memphis??
i swear whenever someone mentions hakeem, they use the same 5 clips of him 😂😂
I did not just see you put Rudy of spida that’s insane
The more I watch your vids, the more I think you need to update your NBA knowledge a little bit😭
Sadly, I'm a Bulls fan so:
Jordan (duh)
Pippen
Rose
Artis Gilmore (I also considered Jerry Sloan, Horace Grant, and Dennis Rodman for this spot)
Zach Randolph has to be on the Grizzlies Mount Rushmore. Period
I think hornets should be
Kemba
Johnson
Dell curry
Muggsy
C Webb in Sac for sure
Ray Allen in Seattle for sure
Cmon bro!
Spurs have to be Tim Duncan, David Robinson obviously. After that, its 2 out of 3 for George Gervin, Manu Ginobili and Tony Parker. Kawaii didnt play long enough with the spurs and his exit was less than cordial. I would go with George Gervin and Ginobili myself, but I would not argue Parker over Ginobili. I would however argue either one of them over George Gervin. Gervin made the all top 75 NBA players list. You cannot leave him off the list.
Def Zack Randolph in MEM
1000% agree with ur thunder take !! shouts out mr thunder nick collison
Tony Allen over Junkyard dog is insane
Die hard Wizards fan here. Arenas should have been there more than Beal. I would even argue Earl Monroe but Beal shouldn't even be discussed at all.
42 seconds ago is scary
What about Kat for knicks? 😢
Spurs is Duncan, Robinson, GERVIN, and Ginobili fs
You did the SPURS dirty by putting Kawhi instead of George Gervin.
C Webb not on the bullets or kings is crazy Ray Allen not on the Sonics or Bucks is crazy work Vince Carter not on the Raptors is crazy work and Moses Malone not on the 76ers is crazy work
Obviously this guy never heard of Wilt Chamberlain on 76ers, Hal Greer
Bob mcadoo mvp and bill Walton for the clips
No gervin on spurs
No cwebb on kings
Mose or wilt on 76ers
No dr j on nets
Is wild
Malone
Hondo
Wilt
My favorite team is the Lakers, and my Mount Rushmore would be Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Kobe Bryant, Magic Johnson, and Jerry West.
Making a case for LeBron in LA mount rushmore instead of Jerry West is crazy.
Don't get me wrong, LeBron is great, but he hasn't done enough to belong on the Lakers Mount rushmore.
Saying Clyde drexler has 5x all nba as his best accolade and why he is the best blazer is funny when dame has 7
Crazyyyy Lebron could've been on 3 Mount Rushmore with just his stats at that particular franchise if that isn't greatness idk what is!
Pistons:
Isiah Thomas, Joe Dumars,Ben Wallace and Bob Lanier
Drummond as an Honorable mention 😭😭