2023 Subaru WRX v Toyota GR Yaris Comparison | Two circa-$50K AWD performance icons go head to head
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- Опубликовано: 23 июл 2024
- Which of these two turbo all-wheel drive performance icons is the best road-going rally car you can buy for about $50,000? 👉 Full Review: www.carsales.com.au/editorial...
At first glance, the 2023 Subaru WRX and Toyota GR Yaris are strange bedfellows, given one is a mid-size sedan and the other a three-door light hatch.
But both of these turbocharged all-wheel drive models are really-bred, hail from Japan and cost about $50,000.
So which is the better performance car for the road - Subaru WRX or Toyota GR Yaris? We sent Scott Newman to find out.
Fast Forward
00:00 Intro
00:50 Pricing
01:31 WRX track test
06:18 GR Yaris track test
05:56 Timed hot lap
14:37 Specs & features
15:47 WRX interior review
16:24 GR Yaris interior review
17:38 Infotainment & safety
17:56 On the road
20:08 Verdict
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This video seemed biased towards the toyota from the get go. Having the wrx be faster on the laptime was funny to see. Here in the states the subaru is a good $10K cheaper than the toyota. That makes the decision a lot easier between the two.
But if the GR is so much more awesome. why was the WRX faster on the track? 😎🤘🏽
The proportions of the GR Yaris makes it look like a construction worker’s hardhat 😂
Great job on this Scott! Always do a bang up job on these track drives. Love these track comparisons.
What - No LSD on the GR - WTF. Why even bother.
How about putting your Big Boy Pants on next time & get a Yaris with LSD & a GR Corolla with LSD & what ever else you want to throw in there.
Good review. Factual and objective. Interesting track... Neither car hit fourth gear!
Although i totally understand why they were put against each other, honestly though, what kind of nutcase would buy a GR Yaris without those torsen diffs? so its kind of moot in the end. still enjoyed the video though
Agree. Diffs all the way.
to compare these cars, you should have take the high performance GR. There you have a second diff, lighter rims. way less understear, about you are complaining. rediculous isn´t it? which set of awd did you drive? on short tracks like this, you should take sport, to press out of the corners. wondering cause mine is turning in on brake slightly
Did u put the GR Yaris in sport mode? That sends 70% torque to rear
About 5 people bought that spec of GR yaris in the UK😂
Surely it wasn't that many, more likely 2 or 3 😅
It's because they sold 1000 of them here at less than $22k in GBP
@@fullboost here they were 34k gbp
I enjoy your track reviews, good driving and talent displayed whilst talking!
You're a very kind man
@@addictedtosliding My wife may disagree😆
Great driving and review. More timed laps please, that was great. Maybe 0-100 and 1/4 mile too; bit of fun and something Aussie reviews seem to lack compared to our UK counterparts.
GR Corolla VS WRX please.
Wish we got the GR Yaris in Canada we got the GR corolla. Though I love Subarus
WRX is my first choice.
What a fun little circuit
The car (gr yaris) does everything well, it accelerates, brakes and turns great, the issue is that it has a lot of grip in the sensations, it seems like it is going on rails and that takes away from the fun, plus the sound of the engine amplified by the speakers sounds very artificial, as if It was an appliance, and the exhausts are as if silenced. In 2022, they took me for a ride in a pearl black one, with the circuit pack and the aerodynamic kid that cost about five thousand dollars more, we were going almost flat out and I thought it was going to leave me speechless but the truth is which was not the case, only a downshift to third and a great thrust of its engine made my head almost touch the windshield, it was what impressed me the most along with its great braking power, but based on comments I expected much more from this car . There are some journalists who think the same as me, but well I think there are two realities, the car that gives you sensations and the one that makes the best times, the Yaris is part of the latter's club. When you get in it feels too cheap and its plastics leave a lot to be desired, they look like a VW Gol Trend from before and all this makes it feel like a "vitaminized little stroller" but not of class.- If you buy it for A safe circuit is great, but if you buy it as a touring car to make a “facha”, as they say in Argentina, it is not so good because it is small, uncomfortable and uses too much gas like a Mustang, according to what I saw in a video from a private individual. from Spain that has the Yaris and compares the consumption with the Muscle Car. Although the suspension is softer than a Megane 3 Rs 265, it is still hard, and it copies every small imperfection of the asphalt in the city. In conclusion, for its price it offers a lot, but it is not the car that you say drives me crazy, neither for its design (although its nose is very rally), nor for its sound, nor for the quality of materials, what makes it precious is the intervention in its development of the quadruple WRC world champion, the Finnish Tommi Mäkinen, which ensures that this vehicle is precise and efficient when it comes to rolling on the track, on a track day, even surpassing other higher priced cars.
WRX no brainor
WRX NO DOUBT 🎉👍✨
Oh yes! Overall best option. An everyday car suitable for a family or for someone with friends
@@mikimenendez For sure ! And really an AWESOME sports car two ! Drives better than a suv but as dinamic as a sports car - literally ANYWHERE 😁👍👌✨
Just love it 😎
Different cars for different crowds is definitely on the mark here. Yes, a Rallye would probably smoke the WRX around this track, but one is a very niche offering in an already niche market with limited use outside of fanging it around the track... the other is a 4 door that you can easily live with day to day as a primary car that put a very respectable time down.
If you're looking at $60k for a track weapon then the Rallye fits the bill but as a daily that's a lot of compromise, I'd rather save 15k and a grab a BRZ for that sort of duty. But for my lifestyle and budget I'd be taking the WRX over the Yaris every day of the week.
This is such a clueless review first reviewing the GR without the LSDs and second not trying the standard setup with sport mode on - try watching Harris drive the car 😊
For comfort, family focus and practicality inside, id go the wrx.
6ft with a small car isnt going to suit… also getting to the back seat isnt ideal too
I’m 6ft and own a Yaris, I fit fine
GR Yaris driver use mostly 2nd gear..
Subaru driver use mostly 3rd gear..
Yaris 👍🏻
Yeah, brakes might be good but those front brake discs are going to cost me £1,000 to change!
You don't need to change the discs, just the brake pads
@@mistamaog The Discs won't last forever. I mean at some point, not next week. They are twice the price of 911 discs.
@@Stringwar Oh wait i misread your comment haha, i thought you said "breaks night not be good" referring to the WRX not having the best brakes. But ouch, 1000 for just the front discs? Sheesh
@@mistamaog Say a prayer for me.
Be happy you don't have an AMG CLK 63. We had one over ten years ago and MB wanted $4,000 per front rotor. I nearly choked on my latte. They are two piece discs and can't be machined. I did some research and could have purchased a set from an AMG dealer in Los Angeles and had then couriered to Melbourne, Australia for $2,000 Australian. Shows how much MB Melbourne marked up the parts. With bills starting to add up, the car was only 4 or 5 years old, we decided to get rid of the car and bought a Lexus.
Pains me to say this, but that is a good looking Corolla. I wouldn't;t have thought that possible.
Even if I am in love with the GR models of Toyota, I must admit that the WRX is the best out there in the segment.
The overall best! And for those who say that the GR Yaris is faster, surprisingly, it’s not.
The Subaru is still a beast, after all these years, now, more refined and suitable for a family, more mature, but ready to destroy egos…
Mad respect for the WRX.
If you bought a GR Yaris without the diffs, then you've goofed... They will be worth so much less in the future as well. Nobody wants the base GR. The Rallye or Circuit pack as it is known in the rest of the world makes all the difference. It would shave multiple seconds off that lap time.
Was 3.2sec quicker on a shorter layout when I did that very test
Agree, cannot believe anyone would buy the Yaris without the circuit pack
Just tires would be enough to save a few seconds before even adding the diffs
$20k difference is why. As a road car you'll never need the LSD's but you can put the diffs in and have a mountain of change for wheels, exhaust, other mods. Not sure how that's goofed. 🤔
@@wwcarsales 20k difference? In my country it's a 2k difference, which doesn't even pay for the wheels you get.
And you can definitely feel the diffs out of every roundabout and many other places on the road too.
You said go into "details" later in the video, where are the details. You literally read specs off the internet any chump can obtain. How about you rent out a hoist for a couple of hours and show us the underside of the cars and talk about their setup.
WRX hasn't got faster since the original
But it is more linear and more comfortable. An excellent daily for sure
Solid cars but overpriced. Subaru is just plain too ugly and the Yaris is an extremely small car with cheap and boring interior.
Ugly? It’s so subjective… I personally think it’s beautiful, in magnetic gray specially
But the Yaris looks so girly
It looks absurd.
Subaru have lost their way - Toyota FTW
WRX is the overall best option. If you consider the car as a daily, if you have a family or friends.
If you just want a track car, yes, maybe the GR Yaris, at least, stock vs stock.
After mods, the WRX smokes the Yaris
@Miguel M Subaru no longer available here in the UK, they lost there way a long time ago - they don't even try to compete in WRC anymore either. GR for the win stock or modified
@@relentlesspursuit6894 too bad! Well, then yes, Toyota is a clear winner in the UK. Hope Subaru will come back later! With attractive proposals for the UK market…
@@relentlesspursuit6894 fa24 makes 400whp easily, some already put the sti drivetrain in the new wrx. mod to mod the yaris has no chance. the engine for the Yaris is just too small.
@Lemon CC Subaru lost there way a long time ago. Stock vs stock the GR wins. The WRX left the European market a long time ago, leabing Toyota to dominate with their GR cars
Always GR Yaris !!!
I thought these GR Yaris "let's just slate the standard open diff's car again" were losing momentum....🥱
But no, another that's about as relevant as saying this A5 Wagyu steak is awful, when it's been cooked at non room temperature, not sealed properly due to incorrect initial heat, salt added prior to sealing and then overcooked!
The recent scoobies are not even worth reviewing vs the earlier models, imo. Such a shame 😔
Yes, if you want to drive the GR Yaris on track only or for bragging rights, get the torsens spec for the obvious benefits and turn esc off.
But really, why even buy it for track usage, when there's countless more ready to go from the box options.
Civic Type R, S2000, Clio 182/200, M2, etc.........
The same is also applicable for the brilliant earlier WRX's.
Neither are natural track cars. They're for fast B road blats, rain or dry.
Perhaps a gravel or muddy country lane.
Many GR Yaris track users end up modifying their cars into another car, lol...
The standard GR Yaris vs the circuit/rallye comparison is more than just driving it on a track and disabling esc to expert mode or off.
Firstly, if it's for road usage only and, especially, if keeping esc on, which many buyers will actually do, whichever spec, the standard's suspension is far better as a daily, especially at slower speeds and on harsher surfaces.
The torsens spec is dynamically superior at around 8 tenths hard driving, but the standard set up's suspension is better/more comfortable for at least 80% of usage on the road.
Second, the occasional unladen wheel slip in the open diff's set up is not relevant with decent tyres, keeping esc on and driven in track mode as I do, and there's virtually no intrusion from the esc. It's just rapid and great fun.
Normal mode is awful and where understeer is likely and wheelspin evident from experience when wet, but that's likely whatever spec.
Sport mode is where esc is noticeable/slightly intrusive and where disabling it will give you rotation and slip/slide, especially when wet.
This is where the torsens are actually beneficial on the road or especially on track.
Third, the 050's are literally like an April fools joke by toyota, encouraging buyers to get the torsens spec for further revenue.
I've only used asymmetric 5's from collection and now 6's and I've never experienced any understeer. It just digs in and grips.
Again, on the road, esc on, track mode and with asymmetrics.
Fourth, for buyers in the uk and some other areas, the standard set up has the option of the convenience pack which adds the extra comforts for daily usage. Totally transforming the daily ambience.
In Oz you already get similar in both standard and rallye, but lose out on the very useful parking sensors for heated seats and steering wheel, plus your standard car has white stitching vs red in the rallye and all cars in the uk.
After driving the uk Circuit pack 5 times, 3 before ordering mine and back to back with my uk convenience pack, I'd always favour mine for a road daily.
If I lived in Oz, I'd still take the standard set up due to it being far more comfortable suspension wise, slightly lighter steering and far less tiring on longer journeys.
But I'd likely get aftermarket parking sensors fitted 😃
Refreshing to read a sensible comment. 👌
@@matthewwebber2225 One tries...!😉
Just replaced my Dunlop's with Michelin PS5 and the difference is night and day. I suppose I would say that. 🥴
@@matthewwebber2225 Pleased to hear it mate!🙂👍
Do you own a new WRX? Yeah so not qualified to say they are rubbish. You’re welcome to stick with those rattly and laggy old pieces of crap though.
I thought it was a WRX vs GR Yaris review!
Turned out to be a standard GR Yaris vs Rallye comparison.
Yeah for $5k difference I'd by the rallye too but I got my GR for $40k new and I can guarantee I could drive it quicker around there then the WRX. He looked to be over driving it on purpose and then in summary kept going back to the Rallye.
Heres a tip - Compare the two cars in front of you.
Because you're a better driver, yeh?
salty LOL wrx is better bud, go trade ur yaris in for a real car
Why do you think they ran the WRX harder, only to keep talking about the GR Yaris vs Rallye? Doesn't make sense.
WRX every day! 🔥
@@infinitea6179 wrx is too over styled