2022 Subaru WRX vs Toyota GR Yaris | fullBOOST
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- Our Toyota GR Yaris has never been on the dyno so we thought that we'd run it up against our new Subaru WRX and see how they compare using two very different boost strategies. Special thanks to Alex from Underground Performance in Melbourne.
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Subaru WRX vs Toyota GR Yaris | fullBOOST
Everyone bagging the WRX, Its a great car. sure its interesting looking compared to older models. but hey.. Least for now we still have them.
This. I swapped my 21 VA for a 22 VB and couldnt be happier. Its much more refined and just feels better in most aspects. Should have my JB4 by this weekend to get some more fun power from it.
It’s just a combination of the GR Yaris/Corolla being/coming out and Subaru deciding not to make a final STI on top of the fact that the car (at least from the rear) looks like a Honda Civic…
Don’t clutch at straws dude…
They’ve mucked up this new generation badly in many ways and are pulling out a desperate caps lock marketing “BUT IT’S NEW!”
When I drove it back to back with the new BRZ I felt like I was driving a sloppy van in comparison to the BRZ 🤣 The power was good... but the drive wasn't fun. The BRZ was not as fast but it was so much more fun.... and then there's the looks of the WRX haha 🤮
I live in the mountains of Pennsylvania and this car is a beast in this environment, love it.
Different dyno and different day but my 2018 WRX made 177AWKW after a full turbo back and tune, running over 20psi from 2000rpm. The 2.4 higher flow and lower boost strategy looks like an absolute winner.
A tune is going to transform that WRX! Looking forward to seeing how the power curve ends up afterwards.
Yes in 2030 when they finally work it out lol
Not really... That turbo came with wrx were tiny.. probably even smaller than gr yaris stock unit
@@grantkahale8933 already tuned my guy
I'm running a JB4 and E30
@@grantkahale8933 if that would be on sale in 2030, it would be the best car in the world...
We want to see a drag down the quarter mile next, WRX vs Yaris! Winner takes all!
Yaris win all day
I had a Toyota Blade Master G which is basically a Corolla hatch with the Highlander 3.5 V6. Had to do the pedal dance to turn off the ESC/TRC as there was no button to turn it off.
Living that life ATM, Can't be bothered anymore.... FFS!
same tyres and throw them on the track with a proper driver/instructor and let those times decide the arguments.
Geordie is so stingy Luke, blatantly advertising "free pot" on his number plate but when you ask him for some, he doesn't give any out. 😛
I get the feeling Subaru left the boost low in the midrange to keep torque down and improve reliability of the engine/driveline, just a guess tho
they tried to make it like a naturally aspirated engine, so it has the torque all the time... i think it can take more, but the stock transmission might not:-))
they did that for cvt dummy
I wouldve strapped the car down by the wheels, that ensures you have no wheelspin on the dyno....
very interesting comparison. the WRX is looking a hell of a lot more appealing to me.
I saw a ship getting tied to the dock once and I can say as an expert (now having seen it) that you can't strap a car on a dyno like that. A rope should be used, and it should be massive.
yep you can't strap a car like that, as evidenced by all the straps breaking and the car driving off the dyno. Oh wait.
this method only applies to R33's. YaRRRRR!
@@Legotruck82 LOL!!
@@Legotruck82 Would a ship rope be enough though?
Two of them might be better. Especially if it’s a Honda.
You can turn off the seatbelt chime if you hook and unhook your seatbelt 30 times
Yup
Seeing the pointer coming in from out of frame always gets me! 🤣🤣🤣
Even the pointer got disappointed at the stock NA barra figures, it had to have a lay down on the tool box at the end of the clip lol
Subaru is limiting the boost/torque on the 2.4 to protect the CVT transmissions. I think they get tax exemptions for selling more CVT cars with EyeSight safety stuff so they’re trying to push them hard globally this generation. The 6 speed can handle 360ft-lbs safely but they wouldn’t dare give it a different map because people would make a fuss about them “gimping the CVT.”
Can you believe the CVT gets Recaro seats where the manual doesn't...that tells you which version they want to sell...
@@fullboost That's why I'm probably not going to be upgrading to the new WRX.. too many dumb decisions like excluding features from the top spec manual version.
Split case 6 speed probably wouldn't like that torque figure as it is 😂 if it was a genuine STI 6 speed, engine would only be a problem. Even then, prime motorsport in america made 500whp on factory fa24 so who knows what this generation will bring 🤷♂️
@@longdomedia yeah you need a tuner that knows what they’re doing to run 360ft-lbs with a WRX 6-speed but it can be done reliably. You just can’t pour the torque on until higher rpm. Plenty of people have cranked the FA20 up to 400/400 but it’s only a matter of time before the transmission shatters. I imagine Prime’s ‘22 would last around 3 WOT pulls on the street at that power level.
@@blueridge8992 they've done 1000's of miles now, it runs perfectly fine
Guys, we need a bench torque - you've been doing quite a bit of trash talking....and its not OK to keep trash talking and avoiding a Torque bench session
:)
🤣🤣
Considering that they are our worst performing videos there isn't much incentive to make them, but yes we will do one soon I promise :)
@@fullboost well all the reason TBH, as those videos have been pissing a lot of people off :)
@@krispykruzer do you own a wagon with fold down seats Charlie?
I love Bench Torque, it’s awesome !
Motive just put out a great video on tuning options for the Yaris, so you know where to go next for more power.
Agree that I’d love to see someone lean into the WRX with the 2.4L
Apparently the only option is to drop 10k on a motec... the car cost 40 .. so I am looking at other options.
@@fullboost Great video! Depending how much headroom there is left in the stock fuel system, it may or may not be worth trying to mod the wrx. Sure the engine itself might be good for a lot more power but if you can't get aftermarket direct injectors for the car or a HPFP to reach your power goals it could all be a moot point. Also 10k on a motec doesn't sound like a great investment unless this is going to be a serious track car.
@@fullboost Not anymore. Elite Autohaus has cracked the factory ECU and does "Stage 3" tunes for them. 👍
Isn't that a bench flash with a pre-programmed map from OS?
@@fullboost I'm pretty sure it is - nobody does stock ECU reprogramming on the go. Hope it gets cracked soon.
You guys called it. Nice job. The new WRX has turned out to be a beast of a tuner car.
one of the reasons why the wrx has low boost from the low and mid range is because it can run on cheap low octane fuel, if they forced lot of pressure into that straight away, low octane fuel might start to detonate
Be very interested to see how these work out when modified… obviously Cobb isn’t doing it right? I haven’t seen anyone put a dump pipe/jpipe on one of these…. Depending on that I may get one…. I have a fa20dit version and the boost comes on way stronger than this
“If this was in Sydney it’d be #1 world record” 😂😂😂
Careful you might break the internet.
Here is my premonitions, buy your manual transmission wrx before they stop making them.. most country safety standards are autonomous braking by 23/24. Subaru don’t have this available (and eyesight) on manual transmission. With focus on EV cars surely Subaru wont spend $$ to develop this for manual transmission.. I think they will be gone by 2024.. but your manual wrx now and then tune it for the boost it deserves ..
you guys wanna film the a45 , if you want just ask, The boost gets near 32psi on 2ltr , and the way it's mapped to bring power on is so wild. all the different modes etc, the way the power comes on just make's or breaks a car. plus a paddle shifted 8 speed box helps also, they sti makes 668nm and the merc felling way quicker and by the states's it is
Would love to take one for a spin :). Don't they make 500Nm?
@@fullboost I drove a first gen A45, after a 100k on them, the motor feels tired and nowhere near as quick as what reviews claimed when they came out.
@@Jaredscott89 isn't any euro a money pit after 100k? Lol
@@onedayiwillmakesomecontent not what I said mate. Try reading and less implying whatever bias you subscribe to.
@@Jaredscott89 just re read it, you seem to categorically state "the motor feels tired and nowhere near as quick as the reviews say"
Not sure what else your words would imply??
Just having a laugh mate.
I did my edit, to take a rant off.
Seems people need to have a big glass of ice water in the comments these days.
Hot lap them 10 times at Heathcote park. The Yaris will win while the Subaru will be blowing steam🤣
Winton would be more fun.
@@fullboost 29th October. AROCA runs Winton day.
Subie needs to make 235 flywheel kw to match the GR power to weight ratio. Shouldn't be too hard.
Lol then you lift the head and need a built engine
Someone at Toyota is having a laugh with the AWD test mode for sure. If someone has an explanation for it don't bother telling me I don't want to know!
Should do tunes and then run them around the track
Oh you gonna open that can of worms! 🤣
I think you could take the Subaru much further than the GR Yaris in terms of modifications. The GR Yaris in stock is pretty much modded already.
WRX vs Yaris - Two very different boost strategies.
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That is a bit much for dyno mode. RS3, dyno mode: Put on hazards, pump the throttle a bunch of times. Enabled. Exit dyno mode: Disables auto when all 4 wheels go over 6kp/h.
Outstanding video, I bought a new wrx for the exact reasons you say, 2.4 low boost engine.. must be some more headway than Yaris / elantraN for tuning. Do we think we could also tune in another 500-1000rpm also?? The brz seems to review with this same motor..
Brz seems to rev to 7000 with same engine? Why wrx limited?
When u mentioned boost gauge is that the factory 1 and r they reliable & accurate? Love ur videos fellas coz uz get technical and put it across in a way that makes it understandable. Pls could you 1 day show how a dyno is operated bcoz seems like strap it on & smash it in a couple gears, a basic understanding of the way u do what u do wood be massively helpful guys. Peace and Respect Sid from the UK
I was going to write some more comments but I might wait until school holidays when they will have more value.
Just so you know if you start the car from any point with the hand brake off and do the procedure from the 3 pump procedures it’ll go into AWD test mode. No need for the ignition on and off sequences.
Thanks, will give it a try.
@@fullboost try this procedure.
Car off
Hand brake off
Foot on brake
Start engine
Handbrake on
Pump brake 3 times and hold
Pull handbrake 3 times and hold
Pump brake 3 times and hold
It will go straight into AWD test regadless if anything else like if your foot was on the clutch or not etc.
what air temp was the engine sucking in? and would say an increase of 20deg make any difference in KW?
My 22 WRX peaks at 14.5 steadily.
Damm, freaks me out when these twin rangas stand next to each, makes me feel like it's midnight on Saturday and Im seeing double again. Do some vids on Aussie Stinger tuning boys, keen to see how they go against all the 3 and 4 pot farter engines, and how tunable they really are.
We have made a video on Stinger timing in the past.
So 2012-2013 Toyota sportivo camry has a similar sequence to turn traction control off, same thing as well, would cancel after shutting car down
Would like to see you retune the WRX to see what sort of power it can make.
Suggest you watch powertunes go at the GR Yaris. Yea 700+HP out of a 3 pot stock bottem end.
Super cool episode. Love your work.
Love the Motive/ Maatouks beef reference hahahah
Love the videos you make.. i sit a 14.2 psi of boost at the moment.
Very interesting for sure
That cheat code procedure tho FML
..... I want to see you practice it and smash it out ... see if you can set some sort of high score lol, post her up on insta or something go viral
All that grey plastic on the WRX looks…interesting
Litchfield in UK (same guys who mess around with R35s alot) says on their website they are able to flash the Yaris stock ECU.
my peak boost is 15.9 psi
Great comparison! I think your right the boost coming on so quick makes it seem faster than it is great rush of power in a light car. Can't wait to see how my WRX drives.
the big hope for me was for a return to the unequal length headers on the WRX. Instead we got a 2.4L standard. I will take it. My new hope is that the 2.4L does not hit the same wall the previous 2015-2021 wrx did when modifying. With a proper tune, there is no reason the 2022 shouldnt be a 50-100+hp over the previous model when modded.
People are already making 400whp on the std turbo. 👍
@@fullboost thats about 50 more that previous gen. never met anyone who survived above 350 for long even with serious $ behind the build. either way, 400whp is great. any link to the build?
Check Prime Motoring on IG 👍
The WRX with down pipe & exhaust, tune, cooler and a Fullboost sticker should hit 220kw@wheels at least.... I will be eagerly waiting.
That boost curve is asking for it.
Thats one nice looking dyno.
When are the mods starting for the Suby? Come on boys it’s been months!
Tuning isn't available here yet. The car does now have wheel and suspension upgrades. 👍
Good to hear, looking forward to the vid showing new upgrades.
Why does the back of the WRX look like a Civic? Also, that's not how you strap a car to a dyno. Would like to see you guys do a proper drag race, you know, dressed as women. 🤪
What piece did you guys use to tee in the boost line for the rexie? I'm running methanol on mine and my vacuum line is janked into my charge pipe lol
It's directly onto the manifold you can see it on the video.
@@fullboost sorry, I should've clarified. I know it's the MAP sensor, but did you use another piece that added a tee? I have USDM model and there's no tee there
@@pyroguyFTW Yes added in the T
WOULD LIKE TO SEE BOTH THESE CARS GO UP AGAINST THE KIA STINGER. SIMILAR PRICE RANGE BUT THE THE STINGER IS 1745KGS FOR THE EXTRA POWER.
The Stinger is far more expensive than these 2 cars were.
Sonic the hedgehog
SEGA MEGA DRIVE ♊️
Up, Dn, Up, Dn, L, R, hold A+B and START at the same time & wait for the ding
Also can you also dyno the ElantraN / i30n sedan manual to compare with wrx and Yaris
Yo wtf 14:00. This is the second video I have watched of you guys and I thought you’s was just the one bloke. That was the first time I saw both of you in the same frame and it freaked me out.
Good video!
The GR Yaris is very inconsistent with boost - you never know what you'll get, sometimes it's powerful, sometimes it's not. So much so that I decided to sell it.
We have never seen that in ours.
I’m keen to see what you do with the WRX.
The yaris is meant to be an attempt to recapture the spirit of the light weight kp starlets of the 80's. Altho the car is grossly overweight compared to its P series predecessors, Toyota did manage to recapture that driving spirit and balance. Something which modern cars have long since lost. The engine does make a fair amount of hp for its size but the smaller block allows the car to be agile and when it comes to a tight mountain pass id prefer the yaris. Although the wrx's torque curve would make it a very fun car to drive on an open flowing gravel road or hill climb.
Never heard the Yaris been called grossly overweight before :)
@@fullboost Always some obscure KP Starlet enthusiast lurking around, if it isn't 600kg, its fat.
I mean a 2010 4 door Yaris weighs 200kg less than a GR, but every current car is basically a full class size heavier they used to be a decade or two ago, safety regs and tech does that unfortunately - I know I'd have a deposit down on a true 1T compact with running gear like a GR if such a thing existed.
Infact it's extremely light for what it is.
You guys need to look at the motiv videos the yaris
Aside from not having four-wheel drive the Honda Civic Type R fk8 is better than both😜
Type R is STI, Focus RS, Corolla GR territory though
Not in the wet :)
fwd. avoid avoid. ignore.
@@fullboost I'm curious how the Type R would do in the wet with all that fancy "new" torque steering tech 😂
@@fullboost wet weather driving can be addressed by torque output by gear
Price say it all.. 30000$ for a wrx in Canada and the gr corrolla is 50000$
GR Yaris = 159.3kw, WRX MY22 = 178.7kw, Golf R Mk8 = 201.6kw on this dyno.
Correct
I know you mock the RUclips comments (and most is warranted) but I honestly think some of the best advice is to be found there. When people comment anonymously the real truth comes out.
The WRX will handle more power. And also the Yaris costs 8k more BASE than the BASE WRX.
GR Corolla is 6k more than the base WRX too.
For people who want something Civic SI priced with AWD and a manual with decent performance. Seems like the WRX wins.
.They are 2 very different cars. I wouldn't touch a base model WRX personally. The Yaris has a lot more features.
Ill take the wrx anyday. In fact mine arrives next month. You cant beat the WRX in the snow. In Canada its about as good as a car you can get for the weather we have to deal with here.
The Yaris is no worse in that respect. 👍
The good old Konami code from back in the 1990s 😂🤣
Are these guys twins ?
I would’ve waited for that rav 4 the Rex is dead. Nice music tho.
You keep coming back to watch cars you don't like :)
@@fullboost
I like the Commentating. You sound like someone from the footy show. Or maybe I just like the Rex. Or not.
4:45 (captions on, just after the 170kw flashes up on the dyno) youtube says (applause) lol
Even RUclips is taking the piss about your WRX power figures. 🤣
Ha ha, little poke at Hawko there "#1 in Sydney with the grey bumpers"...
It's a jab at Sydney in general ☺️
Either Subaru were aiming for a ruler flat torque curve, or 10nm more and it's rods out lol
Bring on the mods to the WRX
I wanted to buy that Toyota
I would buy the Yaris over basically any car on the market, but unfortunately I live in the US, so I bought a 22 wrx haha
GR COROLLA is out
@@curtfox91 dont want the corolla, I want the Yaris
I must be drunk, I'm seeing double! Oh...........wait.
People rip on the wrx because Subaru has neglected it's fans by making the WRX a CVT crossover for mums. Not because its a bad car
I’m offended I’m actually a expert in everything
Nice
I put 2 gallons of flex to a full tank of 93.
1618 cc vs 2388 cc, that is a 47.5% displacement deficit. yes 12 kw less and quite a bit lower torque but having a much smaller engine, the Yaris gets the win.
It’s running twice the boost! What about reliability and longevity? One car 1.6 at boiling point and the other 2.4 barely jogging along
@@JonTran75 Dude, you are comparing a super lightweight boxer (140 lbs) like Duran, Chavez Sr. to a heavyweight (200lbs plus) like Tyson. I don't care how good and fast the 140 lb boxer is. he won't stand a chance against a heavyweight (Tyson. Ali. Foreman etc). Of course if Yaris (140 lb boxer) loses to WRX (205 lbs boxer) then it is not surprising. The fact that it makes slightly less power despite having 47% less displacement, that shows how good it is. Toyota / Lexus cars always top reliability ranking.
you two dudes sound and look the same haha
Subaru the best ❤
What kind of sports car has a 6000rpm rev limiter lol
It's a family car not a sports car :) but yes it's ridiculous.
I procrastinate to pal!
It’s a curse
Dyno nothing get them on the track heaps better viewing.Corners is what counts lap motorway boys what is corner.In Sydney do old Pacific HWY Berowra Waters Rd or Galston Gorge when open meet at Servo at Berowra at 11pm on Tuesday nights.good fun
Yeah see our last vid on this car 👍
@@fullboost where the old Barra bombs in? Lol
Wrx it's very heavy
damn Aussies with their weird kilowatts....horsepower is so much better
It's metric mate, much easier to follow.
Subaru's love to blow up on higher boost. Even with built engines.
This is no comparison nobody is buying the Yaris
Interesting .... because the Yaris is sold out.
yeah look, I hear what you're saying but the WRX is ugly as sin and weak as shit engine. Yaris all the way
People said the same thing about the Yaris when it came out ☺️
Come On tho people the yaris doesn't have a cvt option, it's clearly the worse car. The cvt is the god tier transmission