Fluance RT85 vs Rega Planar 1: 500 Dollar Showdown
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- Опубликовано: 20 июн 2021
- Join me as I offer you my experience with both the Rega Planar 1 and the Fluance RT85 turntables. Which one is the better 500 dollar option?
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I got a RT85 last year and I'm utterly floored by how good it is. I cross shopped it against comparable offerings from Rega, U-turn, and Pro-ject, and it seemed like the best deal. You have at least confirmed I made the right choice compared to Rega, thank you.
Yes I think you made a good choice. I am very happy with RT85 and for the money it’s probably the best deal going.
For the price yes, but here in the UK where it is made the price is only $379 (£299) so it's not really in the same price bracket here ! But the Fluance is still a great buy if you can afford that much !
This just sealed it for me to buy the RT85! Thank you so much. I’ve been going back and forth for months on this or the RP1.
So far I am very impressed by the Fluance. Had I known about it a few years ago I would have bought it instead of the Rega. Now the Fluance is used in my listening room and the Rega is in the family room.
Fantastic video, sir. Thank you!
I bought the RT 85 a few months ago..and one thing love is that it has a head shell for easy cartridge changes that you didn't mention..also that the three adjustable feet are so easy to adjust the level of the truntable ..just saying that it is also a Canadian product
Very helpful video. Thanks for doing it.
I think if i lived in the states id buy the Fluance but here in the UK the prices seem to be a lot cheaper plus if you buy a. Rega new i think theres a lifetime guarantee. I ended up buying a used planar 3 with stylus for £450 which looks brand new. I think Rega are now going to have to up there game with companies like fluance and uturn producing good products. They should be supplying a lot better stylus or at least making it easier to replace the old one. They seem to be changing there thinking adding the Plus 1 model with built in preamp. Good competition will hopefully bring better and cheaper products to the market.
I am still very pleased with my RT85 and bought a second one for my living room the RT85N with the Nagaoka: MP-110. After listening to both cartridges now for some time I think I still prefer the hotter and more treble-mid heavy Ortofon Blue, although the MP-110 does have a nice warm sound. In my opinion these turntables are still the best value for the money that I've seen.
Love your review. "A lot of us have to weigh carefully how much money we're going to spend on a turntable"
Great review.
I almost got suckered into purchasing an expensive Rega in Pasadena, CA. a couple of years ago.
I bought a RT85 instead and my brother followed suit. We did a lot of research and determined that the Fluance was the best deal. Glad that I wised up. I run my turntable into a vintage Sansui G5700 and Yamaha CR840 receiver with various speakers vintage and new.
Awesome congratulations! Ortofon recommends around 20 hours break in period and not to let it play much into the runout groove during that time. Let me know how you like it. What equipment do you have it connected through?
Interesting video and lots of good feedback between the 2 turntables. I have the P1 and replaced the carbon stylus with an lp gear vividline stylus which really opens up the sound. Now I just purchased the Fluance RT82 and will be swapping out the cartridge with either the Nagaoka MP200 or the OM40 super as i have some interchangeable headshell mounts. The Fluance gives me lots of options that I am anxious to try and will be running it through the Schiit Mani 2 pre-amp. Thanks for this video.
Nice, let us know how it compares.
I will report back. I also got the acrylic platter upgrade so it should bring my Fluance up to a Rt85+ 😉
Just received my Fluance RT85 this evening. Can't wait to set it up and start listening to vinyl again. Was wondering if the Ortofon Blue has any break in period?
Been weighing my options upon buying the Planer 1, Pro-ject Evo, Audio Technica AT-LPW50AT, or the U-Turn Orbit Plus with some upgrades. Been leaning towards the Fluance for a week or so and getting ready to pull the trigger any day now. Your video did help me and confirmed what I was already thinking about the RT85. The Ortofon is a far better cartridge that comes on most turntables up to $1000.00 it seems, and it comes with acrylic platter. I hope that the cover pulls off easily as I see as an option with some of the other turntables. Thank You for taking the time to make this vid and giving props to the RT85.
I am still happy with mine. The cover clips on with two plastic hinges. I leave mine on and just open it when I play a record. It may be a bit of a pain to unclip it each time to completely remove it.
Until Fluance came out with the RT85 (with the acrylic platter) my only
consideration for a future turntable upgrade was the Rega P2. Now, with
my cartridge of choice (Nagaoka MP 110) @ $220.00 CDN and the P2 @
$ 1,000.00 CDN - it is just way too much considering my limited vinyl
collection. As of now, Fluance has released the RT85 with the Nagaoka
Mp 110 at the same price as with the Ortofon Blue. ($ 634.00 CDN)
Considering the positive reviews on this turntable - my choice is now
confirmed.
Did you go for the RT85 with the Ortofon Blue or the Nagaoka mp-110? I'm looking to buy the RT85 as my first vinyl setup but can't decide between the two as I'm new to the hobby, thanks!
I was looking at the Fluance closely but the tone arm effective weight and reports/observations about the tonearm bearings having a little play put me off. The weight and hardware of the tonearm bearing assembly (its a dead ringer for similarly priced Audio Technica decks like the LP40 etc.) and interchangeable cartridge head were negatives for me. I think the only interchangeable cartridge tonearms at like a technics 1500 and above level aren't that compromised. I was moving up from a very cheap AT deck and just didn't want a dressed up version. It has a lot of features and specs on paper, but I'm sorta believer that everything has a price. If a big chunk of the budget went towards a nice cartridge, auto stop, speed change, platter, they saved money somewhere else. Plus all cartridges wear out, and you buy new ones, thats part of the fun. Just cause it comes with a nice or cheap cartridge doesn't mean you will continue to replace those with same priced ones. You can change the cartridge to taste, but its way more of a production to improve the arm, etc. So I decided to save a little cash up and just buy the next level up Rega P2, or Project X1, music hall 5.3 level of table. Something not made by Hanpin or Ya Hornq.
That's understandable if you want to spend the extra cash. For the money I spent the Fluance had been great for me so far.
Nice review! I have owned the RT85 for a couple of years, and I love mine. It replaced my A-T LP120USB.
BTW, Fluance ships their turntables with the phono cartridges pre-aligned. I checked mine with an alignment gauge, and it was spot-on.
Would you mind doing a short review of what you like more about the Fluance vs the LP120? I'm not getting rid of my LP120, but am considering getting the Fluance R85 as a second turntable.
@@docwells7: Sure thing.
The A-T 120USB is a direct drive turntable with a metal platter. The motor imparted "thumping" noises that were audible in soft pages and between tracks. A-T told that the noise was coming from the DD motor as it "pulsed" the motor to maintain inertia. A-T simply dismissed it.
I therefore replaced the A-T LP120USB with the Fluance RT85. I have NO REGRETS!
The heavy acrylic platter matched with its belt drive imparts no noise, whatsoever, and it maintains consistent rotational inertia. For my money, it does the job very well at a reasonable price. I recommend the RT85 for anyone, especially those of us on a budget.
@@TBNTX Thanks for the reply. That's strange as I haven't had any such issues with my AT LP120 which is why I plan on keeping it for a second room. I appreciate the prompt reply, and look forward to spinning my first LP on the RT85 once I get it set up. Thanks again!!!
Great feedback, I just got RT81 for my daughter’s birthday. She never had one before and Fluance looks like a good entry level alternative to Pro-Ject T1 line.
Which Preamp you recommend?
I like the Mani
www.schiit.com/products/mani?gclid=CjwKCAiAnO2MBhApEiwA8q0HYQTuC6j0KPr2Hx2jugbudOoN5NFV7K-6nWVpJCovztsfhaTLvcWCIRoC340QAvD_BwE
The Bellari is also a decent option and has an eq.
www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1432619-REG/rolls_pa550_3_channel_preamplifier_bellari.html/?ap=y&gclid=CjwKCAiAnO2MBhApEiwA8q0HYSIyEB4HPWujlTMkr1gFAoS7uefvR2h6NQ3e4MD8Cpg5ZDfmQnUMUBoC_8QQAvD_BwE&lsft=BI%3A6879&smp=y
You probably could not go wrong with either turntable but the Ortofon Blue cartridge may give the Fluance a slight edge over the Rega with the spherical stylus Carbon. The Blue is a really nice cartridge for an entry level table. Arm on the Rega is clearly better. Detachable headshell on the Fluance is convenient but is a compromise sonically. There are many options between $500 and $5,000. My recommendation would be to save a little more money and buy the Rega Planar 3, which will run about a thousand dollars and is the sweet spot of the Rega lineup in my opinion. The Planar 3 will take you well beyond entry level and is worth the extra $500 in my opinion.
I have a Rega RP1 since 2007 and I noticed it played perceptibly slower compared to the same album on CD. I learned later from the Audio shop I bought from, Rega RP1 runs about 1% below the 33-1/3 RPM5 standard and that was that. Also the belt needs to be manually adjusted every time to play 45’s
I have luxury to live in Berlin and I testet a lot of Players from 500-2000€. For me the Rega 1 with an M2 Blue was the best Player for Money. The major difference made the Phono-Preamp not so much the Player or the cardridge.
totally agree ..I bought my last tt with the rt-85 as i am now 84
I have an RP1 that I'm upgrading. The arm, weight and cart on the Fluence isstreets ahead of the heavy clunky feeling Rega arm. I love Rega, but not this really. Got a fantastic Mira amp from Rega I use too. Awaiting a replacement needle from Fluence as it looks like the one shipped with mine has collapsed and touches the vinyl. Will report back...
Where is the item about you talking for?
I live in the UK and Rega being a British maker we get the P1 for about 320 dollars. For around 500 dollara I think Pro-Ject Carbon EVO is better than the Fluance.
The Rega stylus is a AT 3600 samething
All depends where you live in the world.... Here in the UK the Rega (pronounced Reega) sells for GBP 299 whereas the Fluance is GBP 499........... In the US though... it would be a no brainer!
Agree. I got the Rega P1 today and after few hours, I knew I made the right choice.
I watched the videos to learn about the Fluance TT. I been looking to get a new table for my office system. I’m sure Fluance makes a
fine table , but I’m impresed with Rega. Handmade in Britain, amazing history. Yes it may cost more but it’s worth it. I’m buying Rega p2 or pizza 3. Plus I don’t like how defensive this whole conversation became!
Good luck I hope you enjoy it. I now have 2 Fluances that I enjoy and still use the Planar 1. I have them in different rooms. I still like the Fluance better but they are both good turntables.
I wonder how the arms compare. What you might want to try is putting the Blue on the Rega. If suddenly the Rega becomes the better sounding table, then whatever you think overall, the Rega may be the better sounding table. If it sounds better with the same cartridge then you’ll know for sure.
Hi Larry thanks for stopping by. I understand what you are saying but the whole point was to compare the two similar priced turntables. Once you put the Blue on the Rega you are at a 750.00 table vs the Fluance at 500.00
@@bellisariosonic
Maybe even more. The RP3 is 985.
Steep for a turntable. I can't believe the basic Rega 1 is 525.
Hi Matthew, I appreciate your research on the turntables as I’m in the market for a new one. I’m sorry you’ve had to endure an onslaught of condescending audiophile assholes. Not sure why people can’t just offer their opinion without insulting someone else. 😅 Anyway, thanks for the video.
Great content. I’d love to see a similar video on mid fi receivers/amps and speakers.
I agree the RT85, is a much better turntable, but keep the following in mind:
1- Cartridge output is not a quality indicator. Don't assume higher output, means better
2- Yes, the Ortofon Blue, is a much better cartridge, but if your Carbon cartridge sounds really bad, it's likely worn and needs a new stylus
3- Size and thickness of the belt, is not an indicator of quality
4- Belt shift for speed change, is not a factor for the majority of users
I’ll probably be buying the Project Carbon EVO with the Sumiko Cart over either of these.
Cool. Let us know how you like it!
Yeah I'm not ever going to buy a $3k turntable. I've been looking at the Fluance line and will probably pull the trigger in the next few months. I think the components that you pair with your turntable definitely make the difference too. I've heard the Schitt Mani pre-amp that is $129 is awesome for the price and makes a huge difference in sound output. The Ortofon Blue cartridge you referenced is supposed to be great. The Nagaoka MP-110 gets alot of love too and it is $149. - Russ
I had a bad experience when I ordered a $389 U-Turn TT in April 2021 and it came with the motor not installed in the TT. Returned it and then purchased a Fluance RT85, no longer mad about the U-Turn mistake. The build quality of the RT85 is unbelievable for a TT that has an expensive cartridge included. Set up was so easy. Once I balanced the tone arm, I checked the stylus weight and it was 1.81 grams, not even worth adjusting. The RT85 sounds fantastic, I am using a Rotel RX975 Receiver with Cerwin - Vega E712 speakers. I like the sound of the 2M Blue, In a few years I may try the Nagoaka MP-150 as an upgrade as I have heard great things about the MP-150.
The 2M blue cartridge is great with the Mani. I have that combo on my living room RT81. You will be more than happy if you purchase the RT85 and the Mani. Probably the best bang for buck combo available.
@@jefferysurratt5650 Good move, as I've had issue after issue with the Orbit. So regretting this purchase and still may have to get the new Fluance RT85N once they have it back in stock.
Is that Rega cartridge an ATN 3600L?
No! It was born as a chosen(!) AT3600L, blessed by Rega's fairies, charmed with CARBON spells, and magically transformed into the REGA CARBON!!! (thunderous magician's voice droning ...)
Ey man, sorry, we gotta charge you an extra 50 bucks for all that MAGIC, because, it's like, hey man, our witches need to eat too, know what I mean?
Have you tried the Ortofon Blue on the Rega? You can always upgrade a cartridge (for a price, of course). I suspect the tonearm on the Rega is better, and it would better interpret and deliver the sound of a good cartridge than the fluance would. Also, I wonder which one has better motor noise isolation. In terms of convenience, this is why I buy vintage. I love the semi-automatics. The engineering in those old tables is excellent!
No I have not. The whole point of the video was comparing two turntables at the same price point. Once you put the Blue on the Rega you are at a 750.00 turntable. The Fluance beats it hands down. As far as noise isolation I am not noticing anything different. They both track about the same.
I would love to get a vintage turntable. However it seems they are overpriced and often need work on them. At least where I have seen them anyways.
Well considered pros of the fluance rt85. But, now you are going to have to think about an upgraded cartridge on the Rega. If it's primarily used for rock and pop, you might like the Nagaoka mp-110 cartridge. They are not expensive, they just don't have the finesse and detail of carts higher up the ladder.
Yes I do need to consider that. I will look into that cartridge. Thanks for the information.
I was also considering this one. www.lpgear.com/product/REGACARBONUPSTY.html
@@bellisariosonic You can't beat that price/performance ratio, and no need to realign. That looks like a nobrainer, if the general sound signature works for you.
@@bellisariosonic I’m using that carbon stylus on my Technics SL-1300 and really enjoy the sound.
A turntable is a simple thing, it has a power supply that runs to a motor that powers a platter that your record sits on a tone arm for balance and a cartridge for the signal. Each component is important as each effects the end sound in different ways and in almost all cases they can all be removed replaced and upgraded. But make no mistake these two are entry level, cos there new and manufacturers and retails need to get paid, so if your tight on budget look for something second hand and save wasting your money lining other peoples pockets. Try and get an older Rega 3 cos I am sure you can find one second hand for the same price (or less) as a new Rega 1 and its a million times better !!
The Fluance also has a nicer speed controlled motor with very low wow and flutter
Just another thought about this video. It appears that Fluance and Rega have dramatically different approaches to turntable design and manufacture. The Rega is made in England and has an overachieving arm with an underachieving cartridge. The Fluance is made in Taiwan with just an okay arm and a rather nice cartridge. The Ortofon Blue will probably get the maximum amount of performance out of the Fluance turntable and arm. With the Fluance, you are paying as much for the cartridge as for the table and arm. This means you will be pretty much be frozen at this level of performance. On the other hand, with the Rega, you are paying primarily for the table and arm. (I am familiar enough with Rega as a company to know that their philosophy is that the turntable and arm matter most and that the cartridge is relatively unimportant.) If the Fluance with the Blue does in fact sound slightly better than the Rega with the Carbon, it would probably take only a small cartridge upgrade on the Rega to sound better than the Fluance. My point is that the Rega is a better investment in the long run because the table and arm are superior and there is more of an upgrade path.
So far I upgraded the cartridge on the Rega and it still doesn’t sound as nice as the Fluance. The Fluance has a better platter. It has an auto stop rather than having to turn off the table every time on the Rega. The arm is a non issue between the two. It’s a no contest between the cartridges since the Ortofon Blue blows away the original cartridge on the Rega. Also you can actually adjust the legs on the Fluance, again Rega is lacking on so many levels. My video was to compare 2 turntables at the same price. It was never to say that if you put another 200 or 300 dollars you would have comparable tables. That being said, I would rather have the Fluance with the Blue cartridge than the Rega with an upgraded cartridge.
Also, I use both turntables almost on a daily basis.
@@bellisariosonic Your preference for the Fluance is understandable, especially with the Ortofon Blue. But I still think you would be much happier if you traded both the Fluance and the Planar 1 for a Planar 3! I rest my case.
A major problem with the Rega involves re-setting the anti-skate magnet if you upgrade to a cartridge with a different tracking weight than the factory cartridge. Doing this involves physically removing the tonearm from the deck and through trial and error readjusting the magnet and re-attaching the arm. This is a horrendous design flaw unknown to most people shopping for a turntable..
@@Destroythenavel Agreed. Rega apparently eliminated this feature on the Planar 2 and returned to the traditional adjustable anti-skating. The fact is that both the Planar 1 and the Fluance model reviewed here are entry level decks. The Fluance has compromises as well, such as detachable headshell and auto-return. Each person will have to decide where the best tradeoffs are for him or her. People who are serious about vinyl will go for the Planar 2 or above and preferably for at least the Planar 3.
I'm sorry but if you do a side by side spec comparison of the Fluance RT85 vs the RP3 or RP6 while the Rega's win out they do not win out by a margin that would justify the price difference. Add the fact that the Rega's do not come with a cartridge, the price gap grows. I had the opportunity to listen to the RT85 and RP6 equipped with Regas Ania cartridge. Same record same receive, same speakers, same Ultrasone headphone's. In this area again while the Regas do sound a bit better the quality gap here is even less than the gap in specs. I'll always pay more for quality. But there has to be a significant difference in quality. I don't see that here. I bought the Fluance.
Thanks for the feedback. I was wondering how much better those Rega models would be for the extra money.
where are the turntables in this video
Right!??
I wonder about what would happen if you swap cartridges to see if the Raga surpasses the Fluance with Ortofon 2m blue.
Thanks Thomas but the whole point was to compare two same priced turntables side by side. Once you add the Blue to the Rega you are at over a 700.00 turntable.
agreed
Rega p1 is over priced for want it is.
What kinda speakers do you have hooked up to it?
Hi Tony. I use Yamaha HS 8 studio monitors.
The way to go , I will do da same 👍
You should swap cartidges, the Rega 1 will sound better with the ortofon than the Fluance does.
Thats the only reason the RT-85 sounded better.
I have a Rega Planar 3 and was staggered how much better it sounds with a Stanton 680 MkII cartridge. Rega's really can shine with an upgraded cart.
Cartridge is 90% of any turntable
Then there are turntables for those who easily want to rip their vinyl records to DSD or PCM 24 BIT .such as Sony or project
Michael Fremer-how much is that turntable arm?
Mr Kuzma- Oh.....$30,000US
Michael Fremer- Oh,that's very,very reasonable
Yeah right!!
What color did you get the RT85. Cant decide between white, walnut and Bamboo
I got the black.
go with the RT82 and upgrade the cartridge to a Nagaoka MP 110...ortofon Blue I find is too bright
It all depends on what you are listening to it through. I have both the Blue and the MP-110 and I prefer the Blue overall on most recordings. The MP 110 is a little more forgiving.
Sorry, but you're way too kind to the Rega. Compared to the Fluance RT85 it's a piece of crap for the money because of what you said - $65 vs $200 cartridge, non-adjustable vs adjustable feet, have to manually switch between 33 and 45rpm with the Rega, Fluance just turn a knob, Fluance has an acrylic platter...etc, etc, etc. I've had my RT85 for almost a year now and it plays just as good as the day I got it, and I've played the hell out of it. Get the Fluance, people. (Make sure it's the RT85, it's worth it, for the money there is no better turntable on the market right now.)
Also, it's much easier to change out the cartridge on the Fluance as well. I'm glad to hear it's holding up well after a year of heavy playing. Thanks for the feedback Jeff.
Fluance RT85N with a Nagaoka MP110H is a good alternative.
Isn't that a much cheaper cartridge than the Ortofon Blue? It looks like it costs almost half as much. I wonder how the sound compares?
I have both, the 2M Blue is better than Red, but overall is over rated. My Nagaoka 110 gives less listening fatigue, it still has the detail 2MB has, but is less bright and has better tracking. I hope to upgrade to a 150 soon. Sumiko is another make I want to try, then Hana. Big advantage of Fluances is being able to hot switch cartridge-headshell units.
The MP110 now sells for 170 bucks at a freakin discount store, more elsewhere. They really cranked the prices, so I refuse to even look at Nagaoka!
Remember that there is no phono preamp in RT 85
Hi Anders. The Rega doesn't have one either.
That’s a check in the plus column.
The Rega arm has no comparison RB110, you could have installed a better cartridge or replaced the stylus AT-3600 (Audio técnica) is the same stylus as on the Carbon cart ($20.00 vs $45.00 for the stylus.)
I think the term you seem to be so desperately missing is “automatic” vs manual.
Do you have a cousin named Gino ??
The Rega Carbon cartridge is pure snake oil! Rega has the gall to rebadge the 20 dollar AT3600L and sell it with their brand sticker on it for over 60 bucks. It is NOT a great cartridge, despite all the hype that penny-pinchers with damaged hearing make around it. The arm on the Rega P1 also has no adjustable anti-skating, so you are stuck with that junk cartridge, because you cannot mount a different cartridge and adjust anti-skating for a lighter tracking cartridge. The first Rega turntable in the chain that is a viable option with adjustable anti-skating is the thousand dollar P3. Pro-Ject and Music Hall have 500 dollar models with simple weight on a fishing-line anti-skating you can adjust, and it works well.
Firstly the anti skate on P1 isn’t an issue with a large choice of cartridge’s that will work without adjustments, I’ve done it. It’s a brilliant first hifi turntable.
Secondly the P2 now has adjustable anti skate. That comes included with a Rega Bias 2 cartridge
@@shaunjp2211 - anti-skating does need to be properly adjusted, otherwise the channels are off balance, and you get uneven pressure on the left and right side of the stylus. The "Rega Carbon", ie AT3600L, is specified to track at 3 ponds or 30 milli-Newton (downforce, usually misquoted in grams, which is a mass unit). Most other cartridges of better quality track between 1.5 and 2 ponds, so the Rega P1 FIXED anti-skating set for 3 ponds is way off on a replacement cartridge.
That "Carbon" cartridge is just a thinly disguised and overpriced AT3600L the spherical diamond is the tip off, not worth $65 either you can get an ATVM95e for $65 that has an elliptical stylus. The Regh is overpriced in general, Fluance is a better value for sure
Geezus talk about cheap regardless of the turntable a nice cartridge and stylus can make a huge difference - I have a vintage Pioneer PL117D Turntable and even that has an Audio Technica VM530EN - I'd be damn curious to see an RT85 turntable with a decent Audio Technica rig on it -
Luv the Ortofon Blue! Thanks
Was all over buying an RT 85 until I dug in to it and found out that it was mostly made in China with Chinesium electrical and switch gear. Shame. I really wanted to support a Canadian company. I now own a Rega P2.
So far so good for me. It sounds better than my RP1 by far. We’ll see how long it lasts. The jury is still out in that one. Enjoy your RP2 .
@@bellisariosonic I in no way meant to imply the RT85 is bad. I auditioned one and really liked it. I just won't support outsourcing to China on principle.
Again, another "Review" without the "Reviewed" item in the video. This is the third video like this, WTH is going on here? Why won't anyone actually show the damn turntables they are reviewing? I don't get it.
Try going on their website for pictures
@@bellisariosonic Try showing the damn product you pretend to be "reviewing".
@@mrmax1467 Try going somewhere else if you don't like the video! I could care less!
@@bellisariosonic Do you ask people to give a "Thumbs Up" on any of your videos?
If so, then you DO care.
Actually where do I ask anyone for a thumbs up? I don't think I've ever asked for that. Get lost troll.
''RE-GA, not, RAGA.
Who cares!
@@bellisariosonic Well, it would give your review more credibility if you could pronounce 'Rega' properly.
@@JamesSmith-qy3eu well if you had read the comments others have already commented on it.
No matter how you pronounce the name, it doesn’t measure up to the Fluance dollar for dollar. But rest assured I’ll pronounce it correctly from now on.
Hi you are comparing Rega's entry level turntable which is designed for people who are buying their first turntable it's basically a plug & play setup against the top of the range Fluance and also the Rega is from England so is dearer due to import taxes. In my opinion and I'm no expert you should really be comparing the Fluance with the Rega planar 2 but in your country the Rega will be more expensive. As I said this is only my opinion.
It's rEga NOT rAyga
Porsh-a
I have the rt85. I really like a lot of things about it. But the tone arm is crap. It's the same tone arm on the entry level model. And no matter what anyone says, tonearm is the most important thing to consider. Full stop. So I think i made a mistake going with the fluance over the rega. None of the "professional" reviews i saw on the 85 mentioned the cheapness of the tonearm which really makes me question wtf is going on. Thankfully fluance return policy is so good 😊
Thanks for the feedback. I am not hearing the supposed greatness of the Rega tone arm. Just because a group of “audiophiles” say the tone arm is the most important component doesn’t make it so. Every single component matters. Guess what? If you have a crappy phono amp then throw it all it all out. Everything matters! Your speakers matter. Your amplifier matters. I have two complete separate systems and the Fluance RT85 out of the box sounds better than the P1, period.
@@bellisariosonic clearly you're emotionally invested in this discussion, im not. ✌🏼
@@damienlahoz clearly. :)
Congrats on your chi-fi turntable. The upgrade path is a Planar 3 duh. The whole idea of the 1 is to give y’all a taste of good hifi. If it’s too $$$ new buy used. They will be in great condition from someone who’s moved to a 6 or higher. Don't buy Chi-fi. Companies that manuf. in China make me 🤮 job loss revenue loss and a general lowering of standards. Yuck!
Thanks Im perfectly happy with the Fluance. Also Rega is not a US company, it is a UK company so why send your money to the Brits? Loss of job revenue.
Unfortunately Fluance (which I should like as a Canadian) has been reduced to cheap chinesium crap. If you like the sounds f an Ortofon blue, or red etc. And don't like Rega then Look at U Turn or Pro Ject etc. What you've done here is bought and adverted a very poorly made TT based on features and cartridge.
Actually it's been a great turntable so far. Do you own one? What are you basing your analysis on?
I'll keep my Elac Benjamin Miracord 10H. It's worked well for the past 50 years and will probably work another 50 . And no Chinese virus parts .
"Mid-fi". And into the garbage the opinion goes.
Lol thanks.