Turntables $400 -$450: Shoot-Out & Reviews: Pro-Ject vs Rega vs Sony
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2017
- My teacher once taught me:
"In life, the aim is not to be better than other people,
The aim is to do better for other other people."
:-)
Dear Friends!!!
♦️Dedicated to friends in Brazil, who gave us Tim Maia and Gal Costa.
Tribute to the late Tim Maia. Thank you for your beautiful voice.
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I am so happy to have completed this 3-TURNTABLE shoot-out for all of you!! Each of these is in the price range of US$400-450. I have again, bought ALL three of them with my own monies, just as what I have done with the Group A, B, C, D, etc Cartridges and Phonostages' shoot-outs and reviews.
This is because I want total honesty, freedom of speech, unbeholden to any manufacturer/retailer. We are all consumers, and we deserve the best for our hard-earned money.
If I want to do it well, do it all the way, 100%. Spending such money, I had to grit my teeth again purchasing all three of these decks this time. Tough as it always has been (i am not rich), but i think, if i don't do it, may be nobody would. So dearest friends, *let me take the sacrifice again, and do this for all of you :-D * As long as I can afford it, I WILL continue to do my utmost best, and I am very happy to do so.
I purchased all three decks back in early July just immediately after my Japan trip. Once back, i had been running all three decks, setting them up nicely, checking their alignment parameters, timing each for a burn-in time of 100 hours, auditioning them A-B-C-A-B-C-...-wise going back and forth, back and forth, making sure their sonic parameters are compared in detail and expeditiously.
I have actually sort of prepared a "script" in my mind back in May before i had purchased the 3 decks, preparing for the Debut Carbon DC to walk all over the other two decks: the Rega Planar 1 and the Sony PS-HX500, by virtue of the former's carbon fibre tonearm and a cartridge worth US$100. HOWEVER, my oh my, was I wrong:
After running them in, and getting to A-B-C-A-B-C-...auditioning them, I was surprised to realise: marketing hype can be extremely misleading! -- There are MORE than meets the eye: OUR EARS easily can tell which manufacturer is dedicating the right efforts to make the best deck in the price range.
This kind of honest-to-goodness performance, earns my respect. This winner, not just won comfortably and clearly, but by an extremely huge margin. It has been hard work, please enjoy the fruits of my labour, my dearest friends.
Warmest Regards,
~ ian.
Additional notes:
Hearing my SL1200Mk5 with simply, the (*superb) Grado Green cartridge absolutely outperforms the Planar 1 by a huge degree. 1)Dynamics just so free flowing, up and down, much better than the P1, 2)Refinement...the treble and upper midrange is so much smoother AND composed, detailed and refined, 3)Bass extension is so much better, going easily deeper, and with lots of grunt and grip, articulation... 4)Soundstage and imaging are on a different level, the images are much better placed on the stage, believable... the whole presentation is carrying us from a good presentation in the P1, into the realms of live performance of high fidelity. Engaging, thrilling, engrossing. Of course the Nagaoka MP-110 carries us even further into the realms of high-end sound...and that is superb and affordable. US$450 for a used SL1200Mk3/3D/5 + US$120 for a Nagaoka MP-110. That is US$570+learnt skills of cartridge set-up as compared to a $400 Rega Planar 1. The former will also entail the purchase and use of a digital force gauge ~$!5, and a mirror cartridge protractor ~$15, and a digital USB 50-500x microscope ~$20 ...all purchasable online from ebay/amazon.
Step by step, my friends:
First:
- a $450 Planar 1 for a plug-and-play, easy Vinyl entry quality deck. I advise not to buy anything else below that price as I have realized they all fall short of quality and do not give a sound that makes it worth the while to come over from digital. The Planar 1 gives us that first quality dynamic and coherent analogue sound.
Then, when one is more confident:
- a $450-$500 Technics SL1200Mk2/3/3D/5 with a $95 Grado Green or $120 Nagaoka MP-110. This will put us much forward into the realm of beautiful and magical analogue music, and where we easily abandon the faults of digital: pre-ring, ring, post-ring, time smear and phase shifts. We will so fall in love with the magical, absorbing and enthralling sounds of analogue with this set up.
Sincerely,
~ ian.
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Test bed in this video:
Sony PS-HX500 vs Pro-Ject Debut Carbon DC vs Rega Planar 1.
Phonostage: Avid Pulsare2 and Schiit Mani,
Amplification: Vitus RI100, Leben CS300XS(room)
Power conditioning and cabling: Zonotone, Shunyata Research.
(Other turntables: Technics SL1200Mk5, SL1200GAE, SL1200G, Avid Sequel SP with SME V)
Speakers: B&W 804D2, AudioNote AN-K(room)
Music used with permission
from www.bensound.com
Crazy review. Best I've seen of ANY product. EVER. Well done. Subbed.
Brother, thank you!!! Thank you for your time, support and catching up🤗!!! May you have a joyous exhilarating vinyl'ing journey ahead with many friends too!!!! Let's go!!! Spin on. Analogue bliss🎵🎶🎵🏖🙏🎶
Same. That was excellent sir
However, Sony has an advantage. With it you can convert the audio to DSD. If you want to do with other turntables, you can spend at least $ 100 on converters and software
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For some reason the AT3600L ( AT91 ) * does not have a linear frequency response, it has to be adjusted, is there any possibility to update this review?
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Finally a review that's totally worth watching the full 27 minutes
Dear Buddy :-D thank you so much for your kind words and support!!...
I am really touched to read your comments....
Thank you Buddy.
Warmest Regards,
~ ian.
this is 3 years old and still best review I have seen while shopping decks.
Buddy, thank you!🤗🙏🌿
@@HiViNywschannel your review showed me how much better the rega is over the debut and I thought I was dead set on the debut. No other review I have watched exposed this difference and again, so glad I discovered your review. I found an amazing deal on an open box p1 and just purchased it. Thank you so much for such a detailed and captivating review. Gotta save your mp110 install video for when its time to upgrade the cartridge.
I Concur Mike ... Jimmy ...
You really have a knack for taking about the important points of interest but your delivery is even better. You don't waste time on the unnecessary things. You understand how much time to spend on the necessary things. Good stuff.
Ian - Love your energy and the passion in the video. With your help on the review of Rega Planar 1, I was able to successful buy one a couple of days ago. Now, I will spend my time watching your other videos to help improve my knowledge on vinyl. Thank you for everything you do to this community !
This is without a single doubt one of the best reviews I've ever seen for any product. Keep up the good work, subscribed.
What a great review! I especially like this review in conjunction with the shootout between the P3 and the MoFi turntables. I also really appreciate your positive energy. Thank you so much; you have a great channel!
I’ve just discovered your channel a month ago and now I’m addicted to your reviews. Really surprised by Gal Costa and Tim Maia being played as they are very famous here in Brazil but not quite known worlwide. Thanks for all the great reviews and keep spinning those records!
Ola brother!!!! Thank you for your country's super gifts to the world!!!! What beautiful music abound and emanating to the world and influencing our daily lives and emotions. Keeping all of us company. Thank you to you friends in 🇧🇷 !!!😄💪☘🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶
Fantastic review!
I'm planning to buy my first ever turntable and the P1 sounds like the perfect choice.
How did it go?
Not sure how I stumbled on this review and when I did, at first I thought it was a review on steroids. But, you get to the point quickly and concisely and I thought it was one of the best reviews I've ever seen or heard. No vague descriptions about one product sounding more musical than the other, or sounding more warm or more expressive. Just straight to the point. Brilliant, loved it. Thank you :)
Dear Buddy Steve :-D sorry i missed out this older message from you!... Thank you for coming by and saying hi and gracing this video with your kind support!
Thank you Buddy!!!! :-D
Hello, Ian! I have to echo the sentiments of previous comments. Your videos are extremely informative, and your enthusiasm and passion are wonderfully infectious. You are providing a valuable service not only to vinyl lovers, but to the music-loving community as a whole. Thank you for helping me to narrow down my purchasing choices (and for reminding me that I have some gaps to fill in my jazz collection). All the best from the cold North. Cheers!
I bought a Rega P2 based on your review here. Even though you do not review that particular turntable I am very happy with it. Thank you. I love your videos :)
Dear Ian the quality of your reviews goes from strengh to strength,you are now in my opinion the best subjective source reviewer since Clement Brown in the late 60-early 70's HiFi Sound ,viewrs you can trust this Gentleman's findings ,he's constantly gettig it right!,currently enjoying a FM radio and Elite Rock Sunday Keep up the good,excellent advice Brother Ted
Edward Barr Dear Ted...thank you for catching up yet again!! I am touched by your goodwill and support again 🤗.
Best turntable review I have ever seen regardless of price and type. Seriously good.
Been looking for plug and play turntable packages in this price range and found your review to be very informative and useful. Really appreciate the A-B-C comparisons with commentary. Nicely done!
Dear Vinyl Buddy :-D thank you too for your warm words and kind time. I will continue to be on the lookout and be as thorough as I can in various price classes. I will do my best for you guys and dearest friends. Do have a lovely Record Store Day weekend too my friend :-D !!!! Cheers cheers! ~ ian.
A very good video of showcasing these three very high fidelity turntables.
I'm moving back to Italy at the end of the year after 23 years in Brazil.
I will have to build my turntable system again and I will start from the Planar 1!
Thanks for your excellent review, as always!
Your channel is invaluable to vinyl lovers!
Hehheh!!! Brother Fabrizio! Great to see you again here!!!
WOW back home after 23 years!!!! A new turntable system already planned tooooo!!!! I wish you success and smoothness in completing all there is ahead.... ALL THE SUCCESS AND SMOOTHNESS :-D !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don't know why I keep watching your videos over and over again when I can't afford a turntable. I really love your videos and appreciate them. Very helpful and in depth. Best channel on RUclips, I'd say! Happy Holidays to you, Ian!
RavenBlackNight179 Brother💪😄!!!! Hi!!! It means you own one. One vinyl analogue system. Come 2018. It means the Law of Attraction wlhave you in our warm and lovely vinyl worldwide community. You are already with us in spirit. Never mind the actual physical possession. 2018.
Grateful, for your friendship👐😄👐😄
~ ian.
@@HiViNywschannel Nice said...
When the time comes you will know what to do and won't have to wonder.
@@DjPhaseFour Thank you Buddy for supporting our friend here😄😄😄💪💪💪
Apart from this I highly respect you and your reviews and the efort you put into them . Thank you and keep on going .
Great review! It is refreshing to see side by side comparisons and comprehensive content. Many thanks, Steve UK
Thank you too brother Steve!!! I love to keep doing them for as long as I can. But with you friends' encouragement, it makes it all the more worthwhile!!✌😄!
After watching this, I definitely know I will not enjoy any other review out there. Keep it on!
Definitely subscribing to your channel. I'm doing a ton of research on a future vinyl turntable purchase and this analysis is just so damn straightforward and knowledgeable. I'm still going down that rabbit hole of options, but just wanted to say well done, sir!
Dear Buddy Marko, i apologize to you for my 3 week's late reply. I am sorry Brother.
Thank you very much for your coming by and catching up with me :-D....i wish you the best of journeys!!! I am very happy to be of help and assistance!!! ENjoy vinyl analogue my friend!!!
Thank you for this informative review. I haven't purchased a turntable yet and am really glad you take the time and effort to share your passion and knowledge with the community.
Dearest Buddy :-D thank you too for your time writing to me! I appreciate your kindness and words of support. Do have a great time ahead in your vinyl analogue musical bliss!!! So much to discover...and most importantly, the warmth and lovely vinyl community of friends.
Warmest Regards and have a great weekend ahead!!!
~ ian.
Dude, you should be the "expert reference of turntables reviews and comparisons". Everything that matters was put into this video; simple and easy to understand with the actual playback as proof to one's ears, under the exact same conditions...
..A freakin' science experiment!
Thanks man. Helps enormously!✌
Cheers! 😎
What a great review. Was pondering whether to buy the Rega and after watching this and other reviews it's the one i'll be buying, plus the fact its made in the UK where the others look very generic is a bonus. Cheers
David bowie Dear Buddy💪😄, yes, indeed: the others look generic: sony is made in PRC (likely an oem factory), while the ProJect has almost no turntable science and engineering in-house but outsources them (they thus only do manufacturing and marketing)...even the ProJect team came by to Singapore to talk to the possible retailers, telling them that ProJect "does not make the best sounding turntables, but they ensure that their turntables will sell well". The retailers recounted these things to me. One of them eventually land up as one the dealers as well. But he is really frank about it to this date and stood by it. I am going to pick up a cartridge from him today for future review soon too😄🎵🎶
Have fun my friend, the winner in this test won by a huge distance. Warmest Regards buddy!😄
Whoa. Just stumbled across this, 2yrs after it was first posted, totally blown away. This is the best - most useful - A/V review I've ever seen! I have an ancient Debut (before it was Carbon), considering the Sony, largely for the USB functionality. I'm now tempted to watch more of your reviews for slightly more pricey TT's = even better performance. You're clearly an expert, I genuinely appreciate your passion. Thanks!
Hi Buddy! Thank you for your time writing to me too!!! I am very happy to be of help! Help yourself to the cartridges reviews and phono stage reviews as is m confident they are of use, and yes critically important.😄👌🍀
Thank you for this review. Top level insight and it's obvious how much time you dedicated to a quality and informative video. I'm new to the game and bought the Rega based mostly on this video. Thanks again!
Buddy Chris, thank you too for lending your time chatting up with me!🤗🤗🤗 hehheh let's go listen to more records NOW! I am so relaxing now on my listening seat after dinner, after a day's work too finally. Wifey and Mokobaby🐶 with me. Analogue bliss for you and🏡🎶🎵🎶🎶your family too I wish always!!! Thank you for the friendship and time👋😄🙏
Love this review! One of the best I've seen in terms of detail, objectivity, and an obvious passion for the subject matter.
I really appreciate the amount of detail and your passion during this review very helpful
Dear Matthew🤗, thank you too for your time writing to me and catching up!! I wish you a joyous vinyl'ing journey ahead with many friends around!!!🎶🎵🎶🎶 Catch up again anytime Buddy👋😄!
Hi Ian, Thank you for another excellent review. Your hard work and diligence was very much evident in this video. Buying the turntables with your hard earned money and devoting hours of your time to inform the vinyl community is greatly appreciated. After this review, I will have to save up for a Technics SL-1200. Unfortunately, in the United States a decent SL-1200 costs in the $600+ range (including shipping).
I am not familiar with Brazilian music, but Gal Costa blew me away. I immediately looked for a copy on Discogs and ordered a copy. Thank you for introducing me to this fine artist!
Steven Suehiro Dear Brother Steven. Thank you for catching up yet again. I am very happy to receive your messages🤗!! Hehheh...gosh may be i should go order one more copy too drom discogs!!!👋😄✌✌✌ Thank you my friend for your friendship and time. Warmest Regards and a great vinyl journey for you!
HiViNyws channel Thank for the ❤️ which reminded me of my prior comment. Yes, I should have bought one by now! I have to stop talking and go out and find one!
Awesome review, just bought a Rega yesterday and now I‘m even more convinced that I made abperlest decision. Thx so much for the comparison.
Good choice my friend!!! YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well presented and very comprehensive review. I've been in love with music and vynils for all my life, and this type of warm and at the same time methodic reviews are very welcome. Thanks for your time and devotion on this interesting audiophile activity.
José Varela Dear Brother José🤗, thank you too for your kindness and vinyl kinship. May you have years and years of continued warm vinyl listening and fun with family and friends👋😄✌. See you José my friend ~ ian.
When you walk in to a high street shop to buy audio gear - THIS is the guy you want to steer you. Detailed AND interesting all the way through. Shows examples you can instantly hear. Somehow i feel smarter now haha.. :P Thanks friend! :D
Thank you too Buddy :-D !!! Thank YOU!!!
I am very happy to have received your support and encouragement too....
I am working on the next review videos for two new sub-$250 phono stages! :-D
I hope to be of use to all of you friends!
Warmest Regards and may you and your family be well, safe and happy!
~ ian.
really excellent review. so nice to hear a real opinion that made real effort. Please review Fluance models. I am super curious how they measure up for the price points.
Thank you again Ian for making valuable reviews that are not a waste of time. Always enjoy your videos!
Thank you Brother 😄!!!
You have fun too my friend🤗
Very detailed, but not tiring in the least! I love your videos my friend, and as I can see so do most people that watch them! Thank you!
Great review Ian. As always, very informative. I appreciate you adding the info about the 1200s at the end as well. Really puts all the tables in perspective, as I look to the 1200 as the industry standard. I understand that this is a lot of work and can be costly, so thank you. As you said, if you didn't do this, I doubt anyone else would take the time to do it properly.
alphabetsoup342 Dear Brother. Thank you for understanding and appreciating the end conclusion of things😄. Yes, your SL1200 is the bar standard. At us$450-550, and the willingness to learn the skills of cartridge set-up, look to the SL1200 + a great affordable cartridge💪😄!! Yes!!! Such great sound, and such fun!! Best Regards Brother!
I bought a Planar 1 because of this video review. Thank you.
Vinylholics Anonymous Buddy Michael!! Thank you very much for your time🤗! I can see you're onto something big!!! Your great channel!!!! Keep your Hitachi vintage deck of course💪😄✌!!!! Warmest Regards Buddy and see you very soon! ~ ian
Me too! I've never been so convinced by any RUclips review - of anything - before. Gobsmacked.
Same!!!
Thank you so much for this review. I was fixing my mind on the Debut Carbon, but thanks to you I have decided to go for Planar 1.
Please keep up the good work.
Dear friend :-D, thank you too!... i will be working diligently continuously to provide thorough, useful and up-to-date series reviews. I will be doing my best :-D... all thanks to you friends' encouragement!! Have fun with your wise decision for the best deck in the current market. It is a convincing win for the Planar1 :-D!!!
Great review, Ian. Thank you for taking the time and keep posting them!
Brother, thank you too for coming by and allowing me to serve you guys!!!!
Warmest Regards and may you have a lovely vinyl'ing journey of discovery and blissful analogue listening!
~ ian.
Fantastic review. Best I've seen. Thank you. Liked and subscribed.
Thank you very much👋 Buddy Anthony 😄!! May you have a pleasant weekend and a long fulfilling vinyl analogue journey 🎶🎵🎶!!!
best hi-fi reviewer currently on YT. I was very undecided between project carbon and Rega: I bought the rega p1 after watching this video. signed up!
Brother, I'm glad to be of service.
Please help yourself to the Rega P1. Much better. Best in class when shopping new.
1. Its sonic performance provides the raison d'etre why we get into Analogue music enjoyment.
2. It is best in class, really well engineered, in the critical areas that really matter. Roy Gandy is spot on on those areas. Smart. And well executed.
Have fun Brother.
I am just playing with my P1 for a few hours before i get to my phone and see your message✌😄👍
Thank you Buddy for coming by to catch up with me🤗🤗🤗
Warmest Regards and stay vigilant and always safe. May you and your family be well and happy💚🏡🍀🎶🎶🎶
this is the most awesome, cientific and accurate review of a product on youtube right now, i will go for my Planar tomorrow!!!
Dear Buddy Felipe :-D!!! Thank you for your kind time and words of support. I will continue to work hard and have more pertinent and useful review results for all of you friends! Warmest Regards and may you, you family and your vinyl-playing friends have lovely and joyous 2019 :-D !!~ . AND YES: ENJOY YOUR PLANAR1 ...i was playing it just now too!!!
Maybe the best, most valuable review of anything I have seen this year. Thank you so much.
Thank you my friend :-D ....brother, wishing you a lovely 2020 filled with vinyl analogue bliss too!!!
~ ian.
This is one of the best reviews I have seen. Of anything. Ever! My problem is that I haven't owned vinyl for many years, and have been digital for many years. I have been pushing against my urge to bring vinyl back into my life, but videos like this make it hard to resist!
Dear James !!! :-D IT WILL BE OKAY. Trust me!!!!!!!!!!!!! YEA!!!! YAY!!!!!!!!! Come on James!!!!!
You tempting person, you!
James Allen 👋😄✌ welcome to our vinyl community my friend.
Thank you!
When I search up for a turntable review, this is what I want to see. Thank you so much . I was really considering whether to buy the DC or Rega. Definitely going with the Rega after this video
Thank you Brother, I'm sorry for my late response.
May you and your family be well and happy, safe and healthy always🤗🍀🏡🍀💚🎶🎶🎶
I got my Planar 1(Plus) because of this review, and it sounds really really good as the first time turntable owner. Thank you so much.
Dear Buddy Chu 👋😄👍 yes enjoy enjoy my friend!!!! Thank you for coking by too and your kind time and support writing back to me. I really appreciate it. Best Regards and may you enjoy a lovely and fulfilling vinyl'ing journey🌞😄🎶🎵🎶🎶!!!
So happy you reviewed the p1. I love the p1 and schit mani combo. Thank you so much for your work!
Hardeep Singh Yo Brother Hardeep👋😄...hahaha..yes indeed. That's the result. Best regards for your vinyl playing yearssss!!!
Absolutely amazing review. Incredibly helpful! I was looking at pro-ject but wow the rega is audibly superior. Kudos to you and great music for the tests.
Dear Buddy, thank you!!!👍🌿😄
Wow, this is certainly one of the finest reviews in the wide web out there and perhaps even a bench mark on review technique. As far as the comparison between the different players is concerned, I am not sure how much the type and quality of cartridge has to do with it. It would have been nice if there was a review comparing these three players with the same cartridge, narrowing down the cartridge bias problem. That would prove if your tone arm construction theory differences is correct.
Amazing review and it was a nice surprise bumping into Gal Costa on it! Greetings from Brazil =)
At first your style of review was not for me, but your grasp of music and passion kept me watching videos til I subscribed. My change of heart happened over the course of one day alone. Thank you for your love of music and hi-fi playback. Seriously. Your reviews are helping me get into the vinyl life as a lifelong music lover. Thank you again.
Dear fellow friend in-Vinyl (very soon :-) !),
Thank you for your kind words... apologies to anyone for whom my style doesn't augur well. I really hope to help fellow friends and would-be vinyl users get in and stay in right with the best, top-performing products that really make us go wow and go soft at the same time hearing analogue music done very well for our ears and soul :-D. Let's wish for better years ahead for the vinyl community, a good hobby to keep us at home with our families too! Warmest Regards my friend, and may you find and pick up lovely cherished vinyl records along the way soon... we carry on the torch!
~ ian.
I nearly pulled the trigger on the pro-ject debut carbon but then I came across this review and it’s made me rethink on the rega again Thankyou ☺️I definitely am going for rega
Does the evo upgrade this at all do you know? I am looking at the evo and planar 1
After doing "research" for months online, almost pulling the trigger on a couple of used tables, etc...I watch this video twice and ordered the Rega today. Thank you so much for your in-depth review!
Dear Buddy :-D do enjoy your Rega p1... probably you have already gotten it by now!!!
Warmest Regards brother and hope you are enjoying your vinyl analogue music now :-D... i am now!!!
@@HiViNywschannel Absolutely...I'm (once again) able to play my records I've been carting around for 30+ years. The Rega is everything you said it would be. Thanks for your in-dept comparison video!
DEAR BUDDY!!!! WOW I am excited and thrilled to hear your update!!! It makes me so happy and energized!!! YAYYYYY!!!!!!!!! CONGRATULATIONS MY FRIEND!!
Wow wow wowww yes.....vinyl analogue bliss..... for you!
I've been watching videos all morning, this is the best one!! You made me hear the difference instead of just ranting on, like most other videos.
Thank you!!
Thank you Buddy🤗!!! I'm happy to be able to do my job well in service to all of you friends. It is my duty.
May you and your family be Safe, Well and Happy, always🎶🍀🏡🍀🎶🎶🎶
@@HiViNywschannel can I ask, is the P2 worth the extra money (nobody seems to have compared the P1 and P2).
And thank you for video reviewing the Schiit mani, super helpful, I'll definitely buy that preamp for my rega.
@@YourFriendlyGApilot Yes the P2 is worth the upgrade! But I just thought, the usually people may either go for the $450 P1 or the $950 P3, the latter which affords upgradable speed control, bracing, a tonearm made to higher tolerances which also comes with easily adjustable bias (rega speak for anti-skating 😄
I had Pro-ject added in to my cart before I saw your video. Now I have changed it to Rega P1. Thank you for your detailed review!
I just ordered the Sony deck. I got for a reduced price and paid about 250$ which I think is a good deal. Good review though and I will make sure to check the alignment before I start playing.
My god, the differences between the three tables are so striking! As I mentioned in an e-mail, I am still surprised by the Planar's performance as going into this I thought the Pro-Ject would be more in line with one another. I am curious though, if all three were mounted with the same cartridge, how that might affect the final result. This video is going to be extremely valuable for anyone just getting into the hobby. I think your going in goal has been met! Well done Ian.
That Gal Costa record sounds good.
Welcome back my friend. Superb reviews thank you for imparting such excellent knowledge on this community. I wish you and your family the best and look forward to your next endeavors.
Luis!!!! I was hoping you'd message!! Hehheh!! A new photo of your boys :-D!!! Warmest Regards to them and to you too Brother!!! :-D May the Vinyl Force Be With You too!!! Heehee!
Ciao Ian! I finally got a Rega P1 limited RSD 2018 !! What can I say? Finally I can enjoy TRUE music..and this was possible thanks to free and independent people like YOU who promote vinyl thru comparative and truthful reviews..Thank you sooo much.. UNLEASH THE POWER OF MUSIC ALWAYS !!!!
Bob Ghoul Dear Buddy, I'm happy to have been of help👋😄 yea!!!! Now really good music for yoooouuu everyday!!!! Enjoy, enjoy!!!RSD version? That's special! Thanks for your catching up! Warmest Regards Buddy!
Many thanks for this fantastic review. I’ve owned the old RP1 & was seriously considering a Project Debut Carbon, until today. What a remarkable difference. Off to see if I can afford a P2 or shoot for a P3.
The 2M Red and die cast platter are the biggest things affecting the Pro-Ject Debut. Minor things that are easily fixed. Definitely easier than addressing the poorly thought out magnetic anti-skating "feature" on the cheaper Rega tables. That and the tendency for the cheaper P1 and P2 to have platter wobble these days.
@@hochhaul I don't think that is the difference. The Project tonearm isn't as good. With the Rega, you are buying it for the tonearm. On his other videos he shows how to deal with the antiskate on the Rega, but it isnt like the Project has a better antiskate setup. If your goal is tone and sound, I think the Rega is the best choice. There will always be quality control issues at this price range, but good point about the platter.
@@hochhaul exactly upgrade stylus blue and platter
I owned the Project Carbon Debut DC and upgraded with the acrylic platter. I used a Cambridge Audio MM phono amp with Audioquest Colorado cables. Also got a cork upgrade. Total $887 w/ tax.
I had buyers regret after two weeks. It was exactly what you said “it’s veiled and sounds like information is missing”. Additionally there were quality issues. The motor unit went out one month into ownership. The upgraded acrylic platter is slightly taller which caused the plastic cover to hit the edge of the platter when opening and closing. I fell sucker to the carbon tonearm. I think the Orotofon Red stylus maybe the culprit of the poor performance. I ended up selling the entire thing losing $300 in the process!
I’m thinking of getting another turntable and that Rega sounds good!
Hi my friend, thank you for coming by and saying hi🤗... I have made poor buys in the past as well, couldn't enjoy the deserved quality of music, and lost money as well. I am sure we will, still in the big picture, enjoy the journey and enjoy the learning. My older 71 yr old vinyl friend in the U.K., always taught me, "take your time. Don't rush. And ian, enjoy the journey, the whole of it."
Take your time. Enjoy the journey.
Warmest Regards Brother🤗🎶🎵🎶🎶
We all went there at first but now you know better!
Don’t like Pro ject, much prefer Rega
I have the Project Essential II, it came with Ortofon om5e that sounded very lacking.
I installed an old Shure M70EJ I had and wow how it came to life!
Last week I installed Grado red and of course it sounds even better!
I have the Project for over a year and it performs very well.
I think that it is better to compare sound quality only if all turntables have the same cartridge, but anyway this is a grate review, thumbs up!
by far the best and most detailed comparison of turntables ive ever seen, (and heard) will search out more of your reviews. hope your as thorough on all other sound and vision kit. well done!!
Thank you Brother Mike, I endeavour to put in the consistent work for the community. We are all friends in this warm lovely vinyl community. Have great cheerful times ahead listening to your vinyl records :-D !!! Warmest Regards,
~ ian.
Wow Ian! Thank you so much for this shoot-out review. I have recently gathered an interest in records and came across your wonderful channel. You are so thorough, sincere, and informative in a way that is so rare to find! I was contemplating between the Rega Planar 1 and the Debut Carbon for my first turntable and was sad that you hadn't done any comparisons of these two. Needless to say I was ecstatic to discover this video this morning!!! Thanks for all your help,you've gained a fan!! Keep up your amazing work :)
Dear Brother Jay!!! :-D . THANK YOU for your kind words!!! I will continue working hard for the community. I am glad this review came in timely for you. Warmest Regards my friend!!! See you soon, and happy Vinyl'ing!!!
~ ian.
well..definitely shopping around for a deck, rega p1 was a suggestion from a friend but after watching your review i'm definitely all in. Very informative and i've never really sat thru an entire review video before this so kudos and thanks!
Dear Brother, thank you for watching the whole video so you know what is necessary, and i feel very good that every second of video production effort that I have put in is appreciated :-D
Thank you Buddy Ryan!!!! Do watch the Rega factory tour too and read that book published by Rega, "A Vibration Measuring Machine". You will understand how and why the P1 beats the competition so comprehensively :-D !!! I wasn't aware until i did the shoot-out myself a few years ago, and then read the book 2 years ago! So I know why the actual experience and superiority of the Rega decks, are actually due to!...manufacturing and SCIENTIFIC and SOUND research principles!!!
Warmest Regards, and may you and your family be Safe, Well and Happy,
~ ian.
Same exact situation here. Week-long internal debate between the P1 and Debut Carbon but this sealed the deal. Blew my mind listening to the differences. 10/10 wish he’d review every product out there
@@emainz1 thank you Ed again🤗🤗🤗💪💪💪🎶🎶🎶
THANK YOU! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!!! i have been going though a fair bit tables in the last year trying to find
"the one" I was just about to purchase the PRO-JECT table when your video just started to play and yeah... I think it is pretty damn obvious I found "the one"!!! Can't wait to hear it for myself :-)
Official DenZa'ss Dear Friend, you are welcomed. I just listened to your K mixes with my wife here besides me🎶!! Great mixes my friend! Wife and i went to the Aphrodite concert too in Singapore when she came by in 2011. Best Regards for your vinyl purchase!!!!!! Fun, exciting and fulfilling times ahead💪😄🎶🎶🎶!!! See you my friend!
Thank you so much! Glad you like ;-) I hope you both got to experience the full Les Folies - water show? She certainly does know how to put on a show :-) Here is a Fun Fact, the Aphrodite album got released on vinyl thanks to me which is cool.. :P
Have fun spinning those tunes :)
WOW, THANK YOU!!!
"....the Aphrodite album got released on vinyl thanks to me which is cool.. "
NOW I KNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!
You are the man!
I'm a man without a turntable atm haha.. I don't know if I'm 'The Man" lol
Wow thanks for taking all the time to put this together. I really enjoyed seeing such thorough reviews of these turntables.
Eddie
Dear Brother Eddie!!!
Thank you, yet again, for your kind time and friendship... glad to hear from you. Hearing a friend message, either on other channels or my channel, is very important to me... it shows they are safe and sound. Glad to hear from you my friend.
Warmest Regards, stay safe, and hope the hurricane didn't affect you.
Wonderful!
You're showing the review world how to meaningfully and objectively conduct appraisals of HI-FI.
Not only providing opinions, but backing up with evidence we can all plainly hear.
Your channel is great Ian, and I really look forward to each upload.
Thanks for all your hard work and dedication. It obviously takes a lot of time and effort (and money) to put out such high quality content!
Anna Log Brother in-Vinyl...thank you very much for your kind words and support. I owe it to all of you friends' kindness and encouragement to complete all of these reviews. Thank YOU ALL.
Very touched, and will continue to do my utmost best. Warmest Regards my friend 👋😄.
Outstanding again Ian! This is an comparison that I have been loking for in the event of an coming upgrade of my system.
Thanks and all the best to you.
Claes
Claes Fält Yes Claes!!! Yes this is it. I owe you this review for the past weeks😅😄!!! Thank you my friend!!!
The Asian William Shatner doing turntable reviews!!! I love it!!! It's a complement, your very dramatic like him. I think I am going to get the Rega. Thanks
Hi Buddy👋🤗thank you for coming by!!! Please help yourself to the P1. You can email me at hivinyws@gmail.com and I will forward you the information and tips gathered by some friends here on how they subsequently used this very great affordable platform to upgrade to the unbelievably superb Nagaoka MP-110!!!👋😄👍 and of course do pair it with the Schiit Mani 🎶🎵🎶🎶!!! Have fun and have a lot of joy and great musical enjoyment coming up with your P1!!!!💪💪💪🌈🌞✌
Warmest Regards my friend!!!
Could I ask you what you would choose between the Pro-ject essential 3A and the Rega Planar 1? I can buy them both at the same price in the uk, but I can’t go along to hear them due to Covid restrictions.
Your advice would be very much appreciated.
Awesome video, thank you for your beautiful and useful work. I was between a Rega Planar 2 and a SL1200MK5, and decided on the Technics thanks to this video. Greetings from Brazil!
Yes my friend :-D Well done and thank you very much for coming by and catching up Brother Diego!!!
Obrigado!!!! Warmest Regards!!! And... enjoy your vinyl music and system!!!
Thank you! Finally a good review of these turntables! You are an excellent reviewer!
Dear Brother....thank YOU👋😄!!!!
We need another one like this! Rega P1 vs project DC Evo vs Project Espirit, and then maybe the P2, and X1?
Nice review! I have a Debut Carbon Esprit and noticed many of the things you mentioned (especially the muffled and veiled midrange, and upper midrange brightness) were resolved when I switched from the 2M Red the table came with to a Grado Black. However since the 2M Red is up against a cheap AT cart and Rega Carbon, I think it's clear here that the Rega is the better sounding deck. This is exciting to me because I like to decide on upgrades well in advance, and I've already been looking at what turntable to upgrade to next in a year or two. I was looking at the Planar 3, but I wasn't sure how big of an upgrade it would be. This seems to confirm that it would be a very worthwhile upgrade if even the Planar 1 is already quite a jump up in quality.
Tipharot You are spot on.
Very much the same for me. I was also looking at the Planar 3 or perhaps Planar 6 as a future TT upgrade and after this video I am more than certain that its a good choice.
Leon thepro Brother i am sorry i missed your message. 👋😄...YES indeed. Spoken with experience garnered past 2 years from my friends using Rega P3s as their stepping stone and foundation to build a phenomenal sounding system. Brother, i wish you best of times. Update us of your purchasing decision then. And share your thoughts along. Concerns if any. We help one another.
You cannot go wrong with the Rega P3. I have one with the Elys2 and a Edwards Audio Little Belter belt. I have a full Rotel front end and B&W 604S2 speakers. I am not disappointed for the money. Plus the Rega P3 is capable of much better cartridges. And the support of Rega in the aftermarket is second to none, providing many future upgrade paths. I'm very satisfied!
It would appear that the 2M Red is actually up against two cheap AT carts. ruclips.net/video/e2s69fpphVU/видео.html
One of the best, most useful, reviews I have seen. Thank you.
suicideasteroid Buddy👋😄thank you...and please have a wonderful, fulfilling, meaningful and warm vinyl journey with lots of friends😄🎶🎶🎶! Best Regards Brother!
Excellent review. Your thoroughness in comparison really helps. Looking to get back into my 50 years of collecting vinyl but not having the right turntable and cartridge to play them.
Dear Michael👋😄oh yeayyyy!!!! You're going to restart playing records and listening to music!!!!! Wow *50 years* of collecting vinyl records!!! Thank you for coming by and catching up! I sincerely wish you can use the information here thoroughly. You will get a stonkingly great system at a highly reasonable and affordable price💪😁✌🎵🎶🎶!!! Definitely! I wish you many good years of analogue bliss!!! We catch up anytime my friend. Warmest Regards! ~ ian
Hello from the Netherlands! ✌️Thank you so much for this fantastic review! ❤️Not only did you teach me about the turntables, you have also helped me learn more about how to listen to music. 👌 Thank you! I do have a question: i love old shellac 78 rpm records, and I am looking for a good all-around turntable that allows me to play 78 shellacs as well as 33/45 vinyl with a stylus/cartridge change. (No space for two turntables.) I thought I would buy the Pro-Ject Debut Carbon Esprit with its integrated speed box and acrylic platter, but after watching your review I am having second thoughts. Rega doesn’t offer a turntable with a 33/45/78 speed change, so that doesn’t seem like an option. I was also considering the Denon DP-400, the Audio Technica AT-120x, the Audio Technica LP-5x, the Thorens 170, or if it is worth the extra (2x!) money, the Technics 1500c. If you could help me understand which is the best all-around option between these and the Debut Carbon Esprit (or another turntable that I do not know!), I would very much appreciate it!! My best to you from Holland 🇳🇱
How on earth can Rega 1 with this default cartridge sound noticeably better, then Ortofon Red? Such an airy, big, balanced, engaging and clear performance from Rega, wow!! I had a gut feeling that I shouldn’t go with Pro-Ject, and buy some Rega instead. But all reviewers kept saying that turntable is, basically, its cartridge. It’s false, I suppose. I’m so happy I found this video just before buying my first good turntable! My dream is red Rega 3........ my poor tiny wallet
Thank you very much for such a detailed review, not enough videos like that.
Dear Buddy :-D yes!!! The P1 is much better indeed. Sorry for my late reply... i guess you must have gotten yourself a P1 by now :-D
Warmest Regards and may you and your family be well and happy, safe and healthy, always!
~ ian.
Wow, that was an excellent review. I really enjoyed you detailing the sound so well. Well done!
Dear Buddy :-D thank you for your kind words and time writing in!! My best regards to you and your wife and family!!!
Warmest Regards,
~ ian
Great job video was so spot on I try to always listen to more than one item before I make my decisions I just believe I hear things differently and you explaining all those issues thank you very much
Ian never disappoints! After the fiasco with the AT's stylus angle in the previous batch, first thing we see here is stylus and cartridge alignment info. If the basics ain't right, how can the rest be (Sony!)? Reading in the forums, a few folks have complained about their Rega inducing microphonic feedback, but I guess that didn't happen here, which is a good thing.
We audioholics are always tempted to swap in an Empire cartridge, or Blackgate caps, or boutique wiring into whatever in hope of improvement. The rest of the world would like to simply enjoy the music with confidence that they are getting fair value for the money spent for the equipment to hear it with. Let's not underestimate what Ian has done here and for whom!
Back in the '70s, I dated a girl who drove a Ford Capri (German built, Bosch electrics). She loved the car because "It does what I want it to do!" Such a simple, yet revealing statement! When I discuss this with other car guys, I point out the failure of most manufacturers to read the change in the market swinging to single women (and other folks) who couldn't be fiddling with their car's maintenance. Detroit kept doing the same old thing and went mostly bankrupt. The Japanese started giving people that worked right, "out of the box" and ended up dominating.
In audio, real people buy a turntable or an amp, or speakers; not a hobby piece to be adjusted and preened or constantly upgraded.
Ian is putting the burden of quality back on the manufacturers, where it has always belonged.
Brother!!! Hope you are doing well with your Thorens!!!! My word, you speak extremely well, and elucidated the whole matter so well!!!!!! Thank you for bringing the Ford Capri, about fiddling, about "out of the box", and being so understanding to another HUGE set of population out there (non-audioholics) !!!! They do not want what we want(and treat as a hobby)!!! Steven Covey: "Seek First to understand, then be understood"... yes first we need to understand the thinking of the 95% of vinyl users... and only then can we all be together strong and grow each other's passion for vinyl music, and this warm community!!! *Brother, i am very touched by your extremely wise words. Thank you for your enlightening us.*
Warmest Regards! :-D
I'd love to see a comparison of all 3 tables with a the same Cartridge upgrade like the mp-150.
Thank you for this awesome review. You wan't believe me how much it helped me to decide which turntable I should buy.
Dear Alex :-D i am very happy it has helped you as it did for many happy friends :-D!!!! I am very happy my work and A LOT OF MONEY, have paid off in helping all of you fellow vinyl brudders in this analogue discovery and savouring journey!!!
WE NEED the right tools :-D !1!!
Warmest Regards and have a great Sunday ahead Buddy Alex!!!
~ ian
Wow! That is undoubtedly the best review of ANYTHING that I ever saw or listened to!
Dear Buddy👋😄...thank you so much for your kindness and support too!!!... I am humbled and inspired, energized to do more!!! Thank YOU!!!!!! May you continue to enjoy your blissful and beautiful, rewarding and warm vinyl analogue journey with family member and friends gathered around you🎶🎵💁♂️👨🎨🤵👨🌾👷♂️ 👪👫👨👩👧👧🎵🎶👨👦👷♂️🧓👨🔬👨💼🙋♂️🎶🎵🎶🎶!!!
I love this guy! Growing up in the 70's, my mom was an assistant program director at KIIS radio in Los Angeles. We had a vinyl collection in the hundreds. Two walls of shelves packed full. My mom would often bring new albums home before they were released (the corners were usually cut off on the covers to indicate "not for resale").
Sadly, the albums were lost over the years, as was my love for vinyl when the digital age hit in the 80's, and I moved on to compact disc. Lately considering getting back into vinyl again, trying to decide on an entry level TT, I came across this review.
Your passion and enthusiasm is contagious my friend! You have cemented my decision to pick up vinyl listening again! Thank you! Quickly subscribed!
Dearest M B :-D I am very happy to be of help. I am just a consumer. I want the best for my money at the price point I want to pay. I buy all these equipment with my own monies.... so as to be totally non-obligated, and totally separated from the manufacturers and retailers's influence. I want to shut them up from my assessing&decision-making mind :-D . Very amazing your mother was a program director at KIIS radio station in LA!!! Vinyl collection amassed!!! TWO WALLS :-D !!! Beautiful my friend!!! They function automatically as the best sound diffusers for your sound system at home. Such vinyl records with cut corners are of high value and are to be treasured! You are one lucky mister!
I read with delight your journey into cd digital and coming back to vinyl playback. I stand by your wise decision.
~ ian.
HiViNyws channel Thank you so much Ian! I decided to get the Rega Planar 2, and the Schiit Mani! Can't wait! What cartridge would you recommend as my first upgrade? Happy holidays to you and your family my friend!
Max B
Thank you for another fantastic review, I am so glad that the Rega Planar 1 did so well because that it the one I purchased! I initially bought the Pro-Ject Essential 3 but sent it back after being un-impressed by it. They swapped it for a Planar 1 and I was very impressed. I have upgraded it with the performance upgrade pack ( BIAS 2 cartridge, drive belt and thicker wool mat) and it sounds even better!!!
Oh! You've gotten the Perf Pack upgrade eh!?! :-D Hahaha.... kudos to you. So, what's next? Enjoy!!!!
:-D Best Regards Brother in-Vinyl!!! Power be with you, and have a good Sunday!!
Enjoyed the review and glad you confirmed I bought the right deck 👍, I did upgrade the cartridge to a Goldring blue cell.
Thank you for doing this review. I've always wondered how a Rega would perform, so I dared not jump, but you nailed it for me. ;)
Awesome video, I have the doubt between Rega and Pro-Ject, but now you help me with the decision of Choosing Rega, respect from Chile
Dear Buddy Fabián :-D thank you too for coming by and catching up with me!! Great to see you my friend!!!!!!!!!
Greetings from Singapore,
~ ian.
y como anduviste finalmente?? yo tengo una audiotechnica AT-LP60X y quiero subir a la Rega Planar 1
I had exactly the same interrogation about those turntables indeed. I'll be going for planar!
Good choice Buddy!!!
Thank you so much for making these kinda videos!! They're so helpful and informative!!!
You are very welcomed my friend!!!
Thank YOU for your immense support and encouragement!!!!
They mean a lot to me because I spend my own monies on these equipment to run the tests :-D.....
Thank YOU my brother.
Warmest Regards,
~ ian.
Thank you for a great technical review. It was really useful to hear the differences between each turntable.
Hi Buddy! 🤗thank you too for your time and penning your words of support. Thank you!! Have fun choosing too in your journey!!!😄👍🎶🎵🎶🎶🎶
Warmest Regards,
~ Khai Yann.
I think this says as much about each cartridge as each table. I would like to see this exact same video with each deck setup with the same cartridge. but I see what you're getting at, as this is how they each come from the factory. great video
Dear Buddy :-D Thank YOU for your time coming by and lending your friendship and support. I appreciate your kindness!!
May this message find you in the midst of a lovely vinyl-analogue laden, musical weekend!!! Cheers my friend!!!
~ ian.
Where can one get a Technics at the $450-$500 price point as mentioned in the description?
Thank you so much for your reviews and product comparisons. They and you have helped me decide to go with a Rega Planar 1. I really appreciate your thoughtful approach. Thank you my friend!
Yes thank you my friend!!!✌👋🤗 I am really happy when fellow friends get to enjoy vinyl analogue the right, engaging way!!!
You're very welcomed my friend!!!👋😄👍I am elated that my hard work has really helped people!!!
Have a good 2021!!!!
Thank you Ian. Spent the last week torn between the P1 & Debut Carbon. Just purchased the P1 this afternoon and the motor had a noise similar to a traction engine. The shop manager is coming to my house in the morning to replace it. Super service. Also, thank you for the introduction to Art Blakey. As I move farther into Jazz and away from Rock that was a welcome find and just ordered a few of his albums. You should review everything in life. We'd all listen without the usual fast forward! Thank you.
Ian - I had the opportunity to review side-by-side my Pro-Ject Debut Carbon DC with the Rega Planar 1. Your assessment was spot on with my experience. I was shocked by the P1. It revealed way more detail, able to dig out subtle details that was all but lost in the veil of the Carbon DC, which incidentally had the Nagaoka MP-110 mounted. There was way more of the X-Factor that you speak of, in one of your other reviews, coming from the P1. Sounds so good that I'm starting to question if I want to bother putting the Nagaoka MP-110 on the P1. I played my usual favorite albums and I just could not stop smiling. Many of the pieces sending chills through my spine, making the music so much more involved and emotional. While the Carbon DC is indeed a nice unit, I'm much more delighted with the P1 as it significantly suits my tastes better. Thank you again for your reviews, without it I would not have pursued the P1. Cheers! -Norm
Ive read the Planar 1 is purpose built for its own proprietary cart. I'd love to mount the MP-110 eventually ..but is that even possible?
Sameer-Andrew Rayyan - Yes it is possible, I had no problems installing the MP-110 and did not experience any skipping. It just did not sound as detailed and dynamic to me.
This review is outstanding. After doing a lot of reading, this review helped me to reach a conclusion. Rega P1 Plus arrived Friday and I have never heard my Bronze Monitor Audio II speakers sounding more alive and well. Thank you for an absolutely definitive review and comparison.
Dear Buddy😄!!!!! Thank you for catching up and letting me know your joy too!!!!! Thanks for sharing!!!!✌😄👍!🎶🎵🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶
Warmest Regards,
~ ian
Very great in depth comparison. Thank you for your time and 💰. Continue the great work I enjoy watching your review. We can see that you are very dedicated to your hobby.
Dear Brother Simon, thank you for your kind words and encouragement. I endeavour to continue putting my best efforts, work hard. I love this vinyl community... warm, kind and always caring. The VCLTs flying around is at breakneck speed nowadays!!! Meeting different people from different countries and cultures, emailing, exchanging pointers and experiences, music tastes and collection... are all so wholesome and humanely lovely.
Greetings from Canada. This video has helped me get much to find a decent turntable within my retirement budget. Thank you.
Dear Buddy, 🤗🎶🎵🎶🎶thank you very much for your kindness taking time out writing to me!... enjoy your lovely weekend my friend, soaked in vinyl analogue bliss with all your precious records.🏡🤗🤗🤗🎶🎵🎶🎶🎶 see you anytime!...