ECHO POST-CREDIT SCENE: Kingpin Bought Avengers Tower?

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  • @swimboyfree
    @swimboyfree 5 месяцев назад +662

    This whole street level trajectory in the MCU is way more engaging than the Multiverse saga. Feels more real, like the stakes are more real

    • @nomoremeaning
      @nomoremeaning 5 месяцев назад +11

      That's how I felt when I first watched iron fist and defenders

    • @OuterLayerOfficial
      @OuterLayerOfficial 5 месяцев назад +4

      @@nomoremeaning iron is real good do u recommend watching defenders ?

    • @nomoremeaning
      @nomoremeaning 5 месяцев назад +12

      @@OuterLayerOfficial i loved all of it, from daredevil to the luke cage and jessica jones stuff. All of it was great and I highly recommend watching it all. ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻

    • @hokage1997
      @hokage1997 5 месяцев назад +13

      Can't wait for spiderman to team up with the defenders in the future now that Peter Parker is pack to street level hero

    • @LSDJ4Y
      @LSDJ4Y 5 месяцев назад +3

      And it’s still not clear wtf they’re doing with it

  • @gr8tbigtreehugger
    @gr8tbigtreehugger 5 месяцев назад +397

    Hard to imagine Val or Sharon submitting to Fisk's leadership. A partnership however, totally a possibility.

    • @zaky4127
      @zaky4127 5 месяцев назад +9

      Oh he’s def gonna team up with Val and Ross

    • @mauricebarry8858
      @mauricebarry8858 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@zaky4127I could see Val, however I think Ross is in wakanda. Val would arrest him for treason

    • @wadengg
      @wadengg 5 месяцев назад +6

      ​@@mauricebarry8858I think they mean Thaddeus Ross as in the Red Hulk not Agent Ross

    • @mauricebarry8858
      @mauricebarry8858 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@wadengg oh ok that makes more sense lol

    • @markeesebutler7762
      @markeesebutler7762 5 месяцев назад +5

      Fisk is and will always be the biggest street villain.

  • @GrimlockGuy34
    @GrimlockGuy34 5 месяцев назад +28

    “Remaining Heads” subtle nod to the car door scene? 😂😂

  • @ImmortalAbsol
    @ImmortalAbsol 5 месяцев назад +57

    I really appreciate the respect for previous continuity recently.

  • @jasongroff9358
    @jasongroff9358 5 месяцев назад +113

    I always thought that the "A" logo on the tower could easily be turned into a "4"

    • @MrMelonGuyDude
      @MrMelonGuyDude 5 месяцев назад

      the a can be taken down quite easily if i had to guess

  • @juanrisa945
    @juanrisa945 5 месяцев назад +137

    I think that, if Fisk brought Avengers Tower, was indirectly througth his shell companies since, according to the timeline, he was in prision by the time Tony sold it.

    • @augustmyers339
      @augustmyers339 5 месяцев назад +9

      He is in prison when Tony sells it but he could easily still have bought it while in prison.

    • @juanrisa945
      @juanrisa945 5 месяцев назад +15

      @@augustmyers339 That's similar to what I'm saying. He didn't brought it directly, but he could have buyed it from one of his shell companies abd, thus, the tower would be his due to him ownimg the company that buyed the tower. Besides, Tony would not have sold it to Fisk directly due to his criminal record.

    • @augustmyers339
      @augustmyers339 5 месяцев назад +7

      @@juanrisa945 the fact that people don’t know that Tony sold it also makes be believe that it was Fisk. Anyone else would have been flaunting it but Fisk would definitely keep it under wraps

    • @raidenstark315
      @raidenstark315 5 месяцев назад

      Daniel rpk confirmed he didn't buy it

  • @helarpanibour8107
    @helarpanibour8107 5 месяцев назад +43

    I know it's probably hinting at Daredevil: Born Again, but it's cool to know that everything the news correspondant said on the TV could also apply to Luke Cage, who was also considering running for mayor at the end of S2 of Luke Cage

    • @yuvi3000
      @yuvi3000 5 месяцев назад +7

      Having Wilson Fisk and Luke Cage be opposing candidates for the role would be fantastic.

  • @DaFreak98715
    @DaFreak98715 5 месяцев назад +122

    I feel like Marvel themselves don't even know who bought the tower

    • @keerthichandra376
      @keerthichandra376 5 месяцев назад +9

      Exactly

    • @ShockwaveFPSStudios
      @ShockwaveFPSStudios 5 месяцев назад +5

      Avengers Tower should’ve been the main base throughout the Infinity Saga after Age of Ultron.
      Why did the Avengers Headquarters even exists? Hell, why did the Avengers abandoned the tower anyway.

    • @matthewwest6039
      @matthewwest6039 5 месяцев назад +4

      Maybe the tower is full of the friends we made along the way.

    • @dantepierre1948
      @dantepierre1948 3 месяца назад +1

      @@ShockwaveFPSStudiosBecause why tf would you want to be propped up in a skyscraper in the middle of the city😂that shit is such an easy target. Can you imagine if their headquarters was still in the tower for endgame and thanos comes through the Time Machine and bombs that shit?😂 So many people would die. Also Happy owned the tower after Tony died and someone bought it from him for a ton of money, that’s why it was abandoned.

  • @AgentGriffen
    @AgentGriffen 5 месяцев назад +34

    Wonder if they’re gonna combine Devil’s Reign with Dark Avengers. See Fisk put together his own Avengers (Thunderbolts) that he believes he can manipulate and control

  • @CalobAdamsInfamous913
    @CalobAdamsInfamous913 5 месяцев назад +25

    I can see it as Oscorp tbh. The partnership of the Fisk, Val, Power Broker and Ten Rings is definitely possible tho

    • @cowboysamurai2324
      @cowboysamurai2324 5 месяцев назад +5

      In Spiderman: NWH it was established that Oscorp doesn't exist in the MCU.

    • @AS-ri1mb
      @AS-ri1mb 5 месяцев назад +4

      @@cowboysamurai2324 Not yet

  • @kibwel.parker6042
    @kibwel.parker6042 5 месяцев назад +72

    I think Doom is the secret head of this group pulling the strings and val is the only one who knows about it

    • @aaron-downey
      @aaron-downey 5 месяцев назад +22

      I hope not. Cool idea but I think Doom should be an isolated crazy person

    • @Ryuujin1078
      @Ryuujin1078 5 месяцев назад +6

      …what leads you to believe Doom is behind all this?!

    • @TheDemontr1
      @TheDemontr1 5 месяцев назад +6

      no, Mephisto is

    • @bhrgvoid
      @bhrgvoid 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@TheDemontr1😂

    • @microscopic.caterpill
      @microscopic.caterpill 5 месяцев назад +2

      ⁠@@TheDemontr1when they reveal it’s mephisto it’s actually bullseye

  • @jasoncarson1043
    @jasoncarson1043 5 месяцев назад +154

    Fisk buying the tower makes the most sense

    • @toyanthaog5109
      @toyanthaog5109 5 месяцев назад +1

      It was Justin Hammer

    • @DrewCFuhr
      @DrewCFuhr 5 месяцев назад

      He had to build the supercollider somewhere... tie in for Sony?

    • @intothefrayyo
      @intothefrayyo 5 месяцев назад

      Why- because it's been a rumor?

    • @helarpanibour8107
      @helarpanibour8107 5 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@toyanthaog5109you say that like its been confirmed

  • @LewisB3217
    @LewisB3217 5 месяцев назад +21

    I love Fisk and I can’t wait to see more of Daredevil

  • @Soulcrusher820
    @Soulcrusher820 5 месяцев назад +4

    I think Val is providing Fisk with all the Stark tech

  • @Queue22
    @Queue22 5 месяцев назад +6

    ooooh i like the idea of fisk owning the DODC from spiderman, could be a way to tie him into Spiderman 4

  • @redencarnacion
    @redencarnacion 5 месяцев назад +22

    I think “the remaining heads” are the other leaders of the NYC criminal underworld. Fisk killed off anyone who didn’t submit to hi . I think this will include faces we’ve seen in the Netflix shows such as Rosalie Carbone, the head of the Italian mafia and Luke Cage, who was given Harlem’s Paradise and the Stokes Family Crime Ring at the end of his series. Though I doubt Luke Cage would ever want to work with Fisk.

  • @feedmeseemore5046
    @feedmeseemore5046 5 месяцев назад +5

    Also If The TV shows are cannon it also means that Agent Coulson lives

    • @sinteleon
      @sinteleon 5 месяцев назад

      In an alternate timeline so it doesn't count.

  • @peterskorec8246
    @peterskorec8246 4 месяца назад

    Watching this real quick and them off to bed. Retaking the test tomorrow. Very hyped.
    Boooom looking for this!
    Bye y’all

  • @Fred026
    @Fred026 5 месяцев назад +7

    YES I WANTED THIS!

  • @alindsey4
    @alindsey4 5 месяцев назад

    "...following in the footsteps of another Mayor Wilson..."
    LOL

  • @aishaknotts8686
    @aishaknotts8686 5 месяцев назад

    He’s back!!

  • @ciscoduncan1490
    @ciscoduncan1490 5 месяцев назад +9

    I think that they should say it was bought by the “Baxter corporation“ and is being occupied by one Reed Richards and family. Thanks for the video.

  • @PathsUnwritten
    @PathsUnwritten 5 месяцев назад +7

    So far this channel has guessed: Fantastic 4, Dr. Doom, Kang, Mephisto, Norman Osborn, and now Fisk. Who's next?

  • @luix_rs
    @luix_rs 5 месяцев назад +2

    It would have been interesting to see Fisk vs Norman Osborn competing to be the mayor of NY.

  • @Reesespieces902
    @Reesespieces902 5 месяцев назад +7

    I think they are leaving who bought Avengers tower until Daredevil or Captain America!

  • @eliechaya9690
    @eliechaya9690 5 месяцев назад

    Love from Belgium 🇧🇪 ❤

  • @austingomez9630
    @austingomez9630 5 месяцев назад +5

    Mickey's mousetrap trailer brakedown please

  • @CultureHealers
    @CultureHealers 5 месяцев назад +2

    My question is why we have not really gotten a feel for how much of New York Fisk really owns? If he did buy Avengers Tower, what did he leverage to get it? all we've seen between Dare Devil and Echo is a small section of HK and an assortment of shell companies throughout the same section of NYC.

  • @mjg1544
    @mjg1544 5 месяцев назад +1

    I think the Tower is now Oscorp (Norman Osborne) or the Baxter Building, maybe. Time will tell.

  • @austinforgie1069
    @austinforgie1069 5 месяцев назад +8

    No it can't be 😨

  • @brandonbaillie971
    @brandonbaillie971 5 месяцев назад +11

    Can we get a Kingpin spinoff called "Fisky Business" ??

  • @ZionGuySupreme
    @ZionGuySupreme 5 месяцев назад

    Could mean many things!!! The fact that they said they need a brawler means its most likely Luke Cage. But it could also be Norman Osborne too.

  • @shuvonbamberg4368
    @shuvonbamberg4368 5 месяцев назад

    This Fisk has this nervous anxious look he does as if it hurts to think these horrible thoughts, as if he’s wrestling with the attributes he’s gained from his father. He really hates his way of handling things but he loves his ability to get things done.

  • @Bottera82
    @Bottera82 5 месяцев назад +3

    What about Justin Hammer

  • @stubbysidwell
    @stubbysidwell 5 месяцев назад +5

    Fisk will play the victim of a vigilante for his campaign

    • @TitularHeroine
      @TitularHeroine 5 месяцев назад

      Good call! That makes a lot of sense

  • @jordyoerlemans
    @jordyoerlemans 5 месяцев назад +2

    I personally don't think he bought it. When he was in prison he was almost broke, still paying protection for Vanessa and his mother and paying off his lawyer. The tower was bought in 2018 and he still was in prison. It will be cool tho, but in order to do this there needs to be a great explanation for this

  • @Marvelousgamer7697
    @Marvelousgamer7697 5 месяцев назад

    Mostly likely gonna be either Fisk Tower or the Baxter building.

  • @spicymemes7458
    @spicymemes7458 5 месяцев назад +12

    Im glad Netflix is canon again. Even if it does lead to some more confusion.

    • @calebjp8904
      @calebjp8904 5 месяцев назад +2

      What kind of confusion?

    • @EnzoPepsiCola
      @EnzoPepsiCola 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@calebjp8904perhaps all the stuff that happened in defenders

  • @ShivKumar-uq8or
    @ShivKumar-uq8or 2 месяца назад

    daredevil, the shield ,luke cage ,iron fist,jessica jones, defenders,the punisher these are most brutal series

  • @isaacsanchez8651
    @isaacsanchez8651 5 месяцев назад

    I can't wait for daredevil born again

  • @Skeevy_McKeevy
    @Skeevy_McKeevy 5 месяцев назад

    I'm sorry WHAT? LOTR extended edition deep dives?! YES. PLEASE.

  • @ThePoisonFurry
    @ThePoisonFurry 5 месяцев назад

    It makes sense

  • @AllShitRandom
    @AllShitRandom 5 месяцев назад +1

    Victor von doom can also be part of the "heads" Kang is out of the picture so its ideal way to link him in. He can rent the lab to fantastic four.

    • @thepubknight6144
      @thepubknight6144 4 месяца назад

      Kang is not "out" just Johnathan Majors.....he's still the big bad

  • @phyzixdj3389
    @phyzixdj3389 5 месяцев назад +1

    No because Daniel rpk has confirmed that fisk did not buy the tower, but we will find out this year who did

  • @DonnieGonzalez-lg3md
    @DonnieGonzalez-lg3md 5 месяцев назад

    Good video

  • @maskedpixles6962
    @maskedpixles6962 5 месяцев назад +1

    I find it hard to believe that Bucky would go along with Wilson Fisk because the only reason he ever did anything bad was because of the trigger words which the Wakandans got out of him

  • @handler803
    @handler803 5 месяцев назад +1

    Hot take but I cant imagine Fisk buying the Avengers Tower. 1) He's not rich enough, in universe. 2) Fisk operates lowkey, buying the Avengers Tower would draw attention to himself

  • @jlmank33
    @jlmank33 5 месяцев назад +1

    I hope the fantastic four bought it but it would just probably make more sense if it was Wilson, Fisk, but I could see it going either way

  • @jakebutler9808
    @jakebutler9808 5 месяцев назад

    Maybe mr.gryphin is one of the heads fisk was referring to

  • @melissabritt31
    @melissabritt31 5 месяцев назад +1

    Vincent Denofrio has said Fisk owns it

  • @ResonantFreq528
    @ResonantFreq528 5 месяцев назад

    I wonder if you could bring in Bullseye from the Netflix series to be part of the thunderbolts?

  • @HeBolieves
    @HeBolieves 5 месяцев назад +1

    I challenge you to do an American Psycho bit soon

  • @Dredhedassassin
    @Dredhedassassin 5 месяцев назад

    The only thing they need to fix on the timeline order is where all Netflix shows take place. We know that every season of daredevil doesn’t happen before Jessica jones. I don’t think it’s too hard to fix that either they split up the I am groot stuff

  • @mistajay885
    @mistajay885 5 месяцев назад +4

    Fisk is about to make NYC great again

  • @eldeadkilljohnkennedy3946
    @eldeadkilljohnkennedy3946 5 месяцев назад +9

    Actually, the punisher killed the Inteligencia members left and right, and don’t be surprising daredevil born again that website was taken down hacked by micro.

  • @LazyRASHO
    @LazyRASHO 5 месяцев назад

    Correct me if my memory is not that fresh, but I remember in the animated F4 series, the team was renting the last floors of the building and always having issues with the landlord. So them buying the WHOLE AVENGERS TOWER seems a bit not plausible?

  • @justicejr1486
    @justicejr1486 5 месяцев назад +1

    Where would the final battle of SM4 be at? Hmmmm … Fisk tower?

  • @jakebutler9808
    @jakebutler9808 5 месяцев назад

    Since madame gao and marakami survived the defenders I hope they return like maybe the remaining members of the hand want revenge or something

  • @CHASEMARC
    @CHASEMARC 5 месяцев назад

    I always thought it became "4 freedom plaza"

  • @JPIbanez84
    @JPIbanez84 5 месяцев назад +10

    Absurd. Tony -or anyone responsible for his assets, like Pepper- would never sell to someone like him.

    • @cacti4324
      @cacti4324 5 месяцев назад +2

      True. Except the flaw in your logic is thinking that Tony chose the buyer. If there’s anything we should have learned from the Ironman movies and honestly just anything even with Ironmans name just in it, Tony is way to arrogant and ignorant to do that.

    • @TheDemontr1
      @TheDemontr1 5 месяцев назад +2

      and if Frisk bought it through a proxy? how would anyone know?

  • @taajji
    @taajji 5 месяцев назад

    WHEN

  • @Gersheyz
    @Gersheyz 5 месяцев назад +2

    Please highlight the game Tig played by Domenic, Billy and Elijah that they talk about in the commentary version. I watched the the Fellowship movie 8 times to hear the perspective from as many people who worked on the movie as I could. The Tig/Tag/Tog game they pranked Elijah with is one of my favorite and memorable tidbits from that adventure.

  • @milkmannlopez7183
    @milkmannlopez7183 5 месяцев назад

    You have to think about it that the Netflix shows made themselves canon with Jessica Jones cause they mentioned the events of the first avengers movie. And I feel like the reason why they got canceled cause within those event they bilp by thanos during the mcu timeline as why there wasn’t anymore Netflix marvel shows

  • @jessew5650
    @jessew5650 5 месяцев назад +6

    Luke cage is the head of Harlem at the end of the Luke cage final season. Fisk would want to meet with him. I doubt Fisk was talking about a global scale meeting

  • @juliannabudgett
    @juliannabudgett 5 месяцев назад +1

    Need to see Julia Louise Dreyfus in a madame hydra suit!

  • @xNewSidx
    @xNewSidx 5 месяцев назад +5

    This is the thinnest I’ve ever seen you stretch a scene

    • @nailinthefashion
      @nailinthefashion 5 месяцев назад +3

      Their backs are aching and their shoes are too tight. Gotta take a break but the Marvel train never stops only slows

  • @agofficial1
    @agofficial1 4 месяца назад

    Street level > Multiverse. Does anyone actually know how they’re gonna tie all of these movies and shows together before the next Avengers?

  • @ThePoisonFurry
    @ThePoisonFurry 5 месяцев назад +1

    Fisk will be causing loads of trouble is he stole some Stark tech

  • @ZappaBlues
    @ZappaBlues 5 месяцев назад +5

    If America can elect a Narcissistic SALESMAN as President, then electing Kingpin as POTUS doesn't take too much imagination. DC Comics and Cartoons have elected Lex Luthor as Numero Uno .....

  • @daDOOMsta
    @daDOOMsta 4 месяца назад

    It’s pretty obvious who bought the tower. If you remember it was built with a robot production line. What other character would use that feature to create “Bots” of himself.🤔🧐🤔

  • @wildblue0
    @wildblue0 5 месяцев назад +4

    I don't think the "remaining heads" are necessarily subservient to Kingpin.
    He'll definitely need to meet with his lieutenants, but he'll also need to meet with his peers.
    The Power Broker is international. Kingpin would be a client of hers, rather than the other way around. And the Thunderbolts are currently an off the books program of the government. Val and Sharon should be peers at this point.
    It probably kills him to have peers, and it won't last after his presidential run, but he's not there yet.

  • @innazoneizm421
    @innazoneizm421 5 месяцев назад

    I think a lot of this video is gonna be on “What you got wrong” at the end of the year … still ❤ tho

  • @raidenstark315
    @raidenstark315 5 месяцев назад

    Daniel rpk confirmed the buyer wasn't kingpin
    So we have 2 suspects left mephisto (as the leak of iron heart said) or a variant of kang

  • @killerdavid4
    @killerdavid4 5 месяцев назад

    Ending fight was sooooo silly

  • @joshfactor1
    @joshfactor1 5 месяцев назад +2

    i'm pretty sure hydra is all but extinct at this point

  • @ps2gamer350
    @ps2gamer350 5 месяцев назад

    WOAHHH

  • @_Tree
    @_Tree 5 месяцев назад +1

    I see more of a partnership between Fisk and the other "heads"

  • @asimkasir
    @asimkasir 5 месяцев назад +4

    Calling the Avengers means its a global threat. Fisk can do his shit without an avenger going after him. This means they need a street level hero to deal with him😂 non avenger.

  • @gobachore
    @gobachore 5 месяцев назад

    Fisk?

  • @deadfrogfoot
    @deadfrogfoot 5 месяцев назад

    you seem to love pushing the "kingping got avengers tower" bit.

  • @JoseGarciaP
    @JoseGarciaP 5 месяцев назад +6

    Ok hear me out! Wilson Fisk: Raise of the Kingpin. Stream all first 50 episodes summer 2025.

  • @real16t.v71
    @real16t.v71 5 месяцев назад

    Lol im part Choctaw that shit was cool

  • @taekookie1976
    @taekookie1976 5 месяцев назад

    Is Agents of shield also canon in mcu now?

  • @josuealbert7063
    @josuealbert7063 5 месяцев назад

    In season 3 of daredevil Fisks meets with a bunch of crime bosses w bullseyes dressed as daredevil as his body guard those same bosses attend his wedding in the finale. I think those are the heads hes talking about and not this mr. Fantastic type reach you guys are suggesting

  • @tron-a-con3700
    @tron-a-con3700 5 месяцев назад

    Unbelievable

  • @Evi1penguin5
    @Evi1penguin5 5 месяцев назад

    I don't think it's a stretch to point out mobius and morbius are only 1 letter apart.

  • @_DreamzGaming
    @_DreamzGaming 5 месяцев назад +3

    👀👀

  • @irishboy_pa
    @irishboy_pa 5 месяцев назад

    He wasn't talking about defenders kabal they fought.. i can't remember if they all died?

  • @theroboslayer4007
    @theroboslayer4007 5 месяцев назад +1

    Yo

  • @earlcheese1564
    @earlcheese1564 5 месяцев назад

    Nice thumbnail

  • @lennardevans3594
    @lennardevans3594 5 месяцев назад

    still waiting for cloak and dagger to be mcu canon again

  • @J-Vasa
    @J-Vasa 5 месяцев назад

    Oh cool, they put UNIT tower from Doctor Who in Marvel

  • @shwnshts9469
    @shwnshts9469 5 месяцев назад

    Wouldn't THUNDERBOLTS be most likely in Avengers tower?

  • @hungray2840
    @hungray2840 5 месяцев назад +1

    Is agents of shield canon because it can’t possibly be

  • @user-tc5fk5lg2h
    @user-tc5fk5lg2h 5 месяцев назад

    Marvel has got to figure out who bought avengers tower. Fisk or Mephisto...

  • @drew2875
    @drew2875 5 месяцев назад

    Fisk, F4, or Qeng enterprises

  • @Soulcrusher820
    @Soulcrusher820 5 месяцев назад

    Fisk is definitely gonna be the head

  • @revrabia
    @revrabia 5 месяцев назад +1

    Did he buy it from Tony?

  • @Mi6_Cuffee
    @Mi6_Cuffee 5 месяцев назад

    Ten rings the different heads of each table

  • @Drkilljoy94
    @Drkilljoy94 5 месяцев назад +1

    Five heads? Tiamat?