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  • Season 2 of Marvel’s What If…? gave us deeper insight into moments on the MCU’s sacred timeline.Start the Good Habit at tryfum.com/NEWROCKSTARS to save 10% off the Journey Pack today.
    Even though Marvel’s What If…? series shows us characters from different universes, there are still storylines in the series that play out exactly as they do on the MCU’s sacred timeline in the 616, before that “what if?” moment changes everything. So what implications can we take from What If…? season 2 to learn more about the events in the main MCU timeline? Jessica Clemons lays out some of the biggest timeline implications, including how Howard Stark got the vibranium to make Captain America’s shield, more info about the origins of the Ten Rings, and how Loki God of Stories could be planning his comeback.
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  • @redgenerall28
    @redgenerall28 5 месяцев назад +87

    I mean... Killmonger's whole origin story in the movie is all about how shady Wakanda is

  • @redwiltshire1816
    @redwiltshire1816 5 месяцев назад +145

    The one detail I noticed was how happy became a hulk in more than one universe

    • @arsenalplayz825
      @arsenalplayz825 5 месяцев назад +10

      Yeah I noticed that to so ig he's mainly a hulk across the multiverse and our 616 Happy just got unlucky

    • @redwiltshire1816
      @redwiltshire1816 5 месяцев назад +8

      @@arsenalplayz825 yeah sadly he’s actually a good hulk too unlike a certain hulk

    • @miguelcmr54
      @miguelcmr54 5 месяцев назад +8

      Maybe the episode where he became Hulk its set in the same universe of the 1602s ep

    • @BeardedPavi
      @BeardedPavi 5 месяцев назад

      Its cause he asked that the Freak be included.

    • @pisces4668
      @pisces4668 5 месяцев назад +11

      It's the same Happy from the christmas episode, he was just transported back in time with the other avengers when steve ruptured the time stone. It's why he's gone with every one else after peggy fixes the universe.

  • @CultureHealers
    @CultureHealers 5 месяцев назад +40

    Considering that the rings glow a different color for Wen Wu and Shang Chi, it's likely that they may possess a connection to more than the Space Infinity Stone.

  • @mightheal
    @mightheal 5 месяцев назад +397

    Loki is holding the Mutliverse together not just 616 and its branches.

    • @again-again-again
      @again-again-again 5 месяцев назад +52

      616 and it's branches are literally the multiverse, so i don't get what you're implying here

    • @alexdavies7351
      @alexdavies7351 5 месяцев назад +36

      ​@@again-again-againthere's different universes and different branched timelines

    • @NateVolker
      @NateVolker 5 месяцев назад +31

      @again-and-again - at the end of the video they say that Loki is “only” holding together the 616 timelines, and that his powers must allow him to see “beyond” 616. Seems like the author of that part of the script thinks that “timelines” and “universes” are separate things.

    • @again-again-again
      @again-again-again 5 месяцев назад +27

      ​@@alexdavies7351they're literally the same thing, branched timeline= Different Universe

    • @again-again-again
      @again-again-again 5 месяцев назад +16

      ​@@NateVolkerseriously, why is it so hard for people to know they're not different things? It shouldn't even be controversial

  • @camiheartyt
    @camiheartyt 5 месяцев назад +37

    Imagine: Loki S3 - Loki can see across the multiverse like the Watcher does but not the same way. He starts to watch other Loki to see how they each end up. Eventually being able to communicate with other Loki, Prime Loki ends up trying to "help" other Loki avoid making mistakes and going down terrible paths. Maybe even being able to project an avatar of himself onto a timeline with practice?

    • @kingjames6948
      @kingjames6948 5 месяцев назад +15

      How about what..if? Season 3 start off with the watcher saying I want you to meet a friend of mine. And takes us to loki inside the tree. And then Loki narrorates an episode. And they switch back and forth doing episodes or they just narrorating one episode together. Then the watcher leaves.

    • @zedzedzzzzzz3d
      @zedzedzzzzzz3d 5 месяцев назад +11

      I want our Loki to make a cameo on the coming movies much like what Stan Lee did back then.

  • @drgaidhane
    @drgaidhane 5 месяцев назад +81

    I wonder if they will include post-loki series Loki in the next season.

    • @lightdarksoul2097
      @lightdarksoul2097 5 месяцев назад +3

      I'm not sure about that since it's likely he can't leave his throne

    • @RindouHasRan
      @RindouHasRan 5 месяцев назад +8

      @@lightdarksoul2097considering how powerful he is now, i would not be surprised if he could project any of his illusions on any part of the multiverse to communicate with its people

    • @lightdarksoul2097
      @lightdarksoul2097 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@RindouHasRan that's true I just imagine him like Atlas though. Where time loses all meaning to him but he has memories and flashes of every timeline he holds

    • @jadeshepherd8627
      @jadeshepherd8627 4 месяца назад +1

      They must do since they showed him as the tree. Just because he can't leave his throne doesn't mean he can't be visited

    • @lightdarksoul2097
      @lightdarksoul2097 4 месяца назад

      @@jadeshepherd8627 with the watcher saying this narrating is his job I think he may be talking to Loki himself along with other watchers. Speaking of the universes that Loki keeps alive

  • @benoitgagnon1258
    @benoitgagnon1258 5 месяцев назад +43

    I think Loki and the Watcher are working together in some way and I would be so excited to see them meet up inside the tree throne room.

  • @jeffehren
    @jeffehren 5 месяцев назад +13

    More Loki and Peggy? Yes, please!

  • @NicholasRHunn
    @NicholasRHunn 5 месяцев назад +10

    I feel as though the gifting of the vibranium for the shield and the other samples, was just the safest way for them to get field tests for that advancement.

  • @Nico12420
    @Nico12420 5 месяцев назад +8

    I think the first time Wakanda gave their vibranium is for Captain America's shield because the 1602 is mixing 2018 and 1602 so that isn't really part of the 616 history/timeline!

  • @stephenrobinson8244
    @stephenrobinson8244 5 месяцев назад +16

    One of the best seasons of Marvel tv ever imo

  • @MagicCityMayhem
    @MagicCityMayhem 5 месяцев назад +11

    Saying “MCU Universe” is like saying PIN Number. The U means Universe.

    • @davekisman2763
      @davekisman2763 5 месяцев назад +6

      ATSV:
      • ATM Machine. The "M" stands for "machine."
      • Chai tea. "Chai" means "tea."

    • @MagicCityMayhem
      @MagicCityMayhem 5 месяцев назад

      @@davekisman2763 queue means “line”. When people say “queue line” 🫣

  • @seanj3667
    @seanj3667 5 месяцев назад +3

    Glad you are feeling better Jessica!

  • @drainvigor
    @drainvigor 5 месяцев назад +3

    Loki's job seems exhausting

  • @douglascorrea8761
    @douglascorrea8761 5 месяцев назад +16

    Captain Carter and Strange Supreme are the standout characters from this series. I'm really hoping they get a lot of live action screen time soon!

  • @andrewshandle
    @andrewshandle 5 месяцев назад +4

    Captain Carter makes for a very handy Lore/Exposition delivery character.

  • @sarahclapp505
    @sarahclapp505 5 месяцев назад +10

    Scary thought Scarlet Witch in the red room😱😱😱😱😱

    • @distinguishedallureproduct879
      @distinguishedallureproduct879 5 месяцев назад +3

      Even scarier thought....Scarlet Witch is in charge of the Red Room and controls all of the Widows 😮

  • @chaingang90
    @chaingang90 5 месяцев назад +5

    All I want is Captain Carter and Super soldier Steve to have a happy ending, throwing shields around together.

  • @braydenmorris1118
    @braydenmorris1118 5 месяцев назад +13

    So ready for next season

  • @HarshGupta-if1zz
    @HarshGupta-if1zz 5 месяцев назад +8

    Thanos didn't know that Hank Pym knows how to do a handstand.

  • @DCR_RANG
    @DCR_RANG 5 месяцев назад +1

    Strange supreme ever losing a fight is wild

  • @macsenju
    @macsenju 5 месяцев назад +6

    I love when Jessica does the videos

  • @curiousjamesp
    @curiousjamesp 5 месяцев назад +5

    That's 2-eyed Odin. He didn't get wisdom until he lost one eye.

  • @rutkuz
    @rutkuz 5 месяцев назад

    i'm glad you are feeling better

  • @jeffreycarman2185
    @jeffreycarman2185 5 месяцев назад

    Thanks for the video. I definitely noticed a lot of those canon items.

  • @Chrisy7
    @Chrisy7 5 месяцев назад

    Awesome video Jessica!!!!

  • @JTabor1976
    @JTabor1976 5 месяцев назад +2

    a lot of Easter eggs in what if of what could be in MCU for sure! What if is multiverse cannon as of 1st season ha. This is awesome. All the actors returned to voice their characters adding another level of awesome to the series!

  • @maryodwayne3796
    @maryodwayne3796 5 месяцев назад

    Glad to see you back and healthy Jess!🫶

  • @solvseus
    @solvseus 5 месяцев назад

    Glad you're feeling better

  • @luisr6594
    @luisr6594 5 месяцев назад +3

    7:58 it also could be extremely likely that this Grandmaster kept an eye on the avengers. While the grandmaster, we know from the Thor movie could care less about anything happening outside of his little kingdom

  • @mattduncil
    @mattduncil 5 месяцев назад +4

    At the end of what if Nebula joined the Nova corps we see a lot of Nova corps members, of which it looks like we see Blue Marvel, Adam Brashear

  • @AgentsingleO
    @AgentsingleO 5 месяцев назад +12

    cant wait for season 3!!!!!!!

    • @nailinthefashion
      @nailinthefashion 5 месяцев назад

      If we get mutants I'll licherally be hooting and hollering

  • @Qorvid20
    @Qorvid20 5 месяцев назад +12

    I'm hoping to see Kahhori in live action

  • @leonard1367
    @leonard1367 5 месяцев назад

    Insane as always

  • @photokunstler
    @photokunstler 5 месяцев назад +2

    GURLLLLL!!!!!!! Your skin looks amazing on camera- gorgeous!~WERK!

  • @GRAMI93101
    @GRAMI93101 5 месяцев назад

    Good video!

  • @GHBobBrownbear
    @GHBobBrownbear 5 месяцев назад

    great video :)

  • @krisztianunpronounceable
    @krisztianunpronounceable 5 месяцев назад +10

    I would love to explore the modern day of Kahhori's Universe

  • @dadpants33
    @dadpants33 5 месяцев назад

    Excellent

  • @olleselin
    @olleselin 5 месяцев назад +4

    HELLO JESSICA!!!

  • @EmceeLamaj
    @EmceeLamaj 5 месяцев назад

    I caught that Gracie's Corner "meeeerch!" 😊

  • @A-ds1mt
    @A-ds1mt 5 месяцев назад +1

    Some powerful relics, like the ten rings, could be from realms decimated by Asgard, like Svartalfheim or Jotunheim, which were even older than Asgard.

  • @cjsykes7467
    @cjsykes7467 5 месяцев назад

    The Wakanda shaaaade! Jessica you’re a gem. Please stay and talk to us forever.

  • @ricohutchinson9684
    @ricohutchinson9684 5 месяцев назад +1

    I think the ship nebula walks on is a refrence to the old film flight of a navigator 🎉

  • @Kakaraux
    @Kakaraux 5 месяцев назад +5

    I think the butterfly was supposed to be stephen strange

  • @meghanclaire2480
    @meghanclaire2480 5 месяцев назад

    Jess I love your glasses!!!!

  • @briheartsgames7651
    @briheartsgames7651 5 месяцев назад +12

    So glad to have you back Jess!!! Hope you are feeling better, you're looking well rested, energized, and ready to break down all the questions left after What If Season 2.

  • @MadamWilson
    @MadamWilson 5 месяцев назад

    Jess, are you back back??? If so, imma resubscribe lol 😆😆🤷🏽‍♀️🤷🏽‍♀️

  • @novajay1492
    @novajay1492 5 месяцев назад +1

    My snacky shnack is baaaack! I’m talking about YOU JC!! 😁

  • @johndowning5826
    @johndowning5826 5 месяцев назад +2

    I kind of want the ten rings to be baldhur’s weapon when he got “cast out” of Asgard

  • @joemadic2771
    @joemadic2771 5 месяцев назад

    Love that LuLu is back!

  • @hendismutandwa1409
    @hendismutandwa1409 5 месяцев назад +1

    That Wakanda joke got me cracking!! Fr these blokes was shady lol!!

  • @user-we8uj2ub2r
    @user-we8uj2ub2r 5 месяцев назад

    Totally unrelated but I love your shirt!

  • @noahgraff-uw8rs
    @noahgraff-uw8rs 5 месяцев назад +2

    I need to see scarlet witch vs strange supreme

  • @StuffwellakaTy
    @StuffwellakaTy 5 месяцев назад

    There is a physical world mind in the queue line of Walt Disney World’s EPCOT park where we see it in the line of Guardians of the Galaxy: Cosmic Rewind, the best roller coaster on property!

  • @alexisislas-gonzalez5991
    @alexisislas-gonzalez5991 23 дня назад

    11:48 which probably foreshadow something with Atreus’s life

  • @jay-gw2zh
    @jay-gw2zh 5 месяцев назад +3

    my favvvv is baack

  • @flaze9469
    @flaze9469 5 месяцев назад

    How do u guys get such detail, it’s so difficult for me to remember small details in English when reading books and tying it back to other things

  • @eliechaya9690
    @eliechaya9690 5 месяцев назад

    Love from Belgium 🇧🇪 ❤

  • @slygamerscott
    @slygamerscott 5 месяцев назад +2

    30 seconds crew, Yay!

  • @fabioriccardo9290
    @fabioriccardo9290 5 месяцев назад +1

    Not sure that things are the same in the main universe but for ONE difference.. the variance we see May have splitten from a previous variance and so on..
    The wakanda in 1602 Is even more complicated since web have a Steve Rogers from even another timeline so maybe they May have donated vibranium in consequence of this Steve arrival.. plus every character existing in 1602 and with powers makes the timeline very different from the original

  • @mosesmahendran239
    @mosesmahendran239 5 месяцев назад

    Ok. Let's do what if season 2 re-watch this weekend.

  • @ryno1509
    @ryno1509 5 месяцев назад +2

    Odin had Freya and Frigg as wives at different points in mythology there’s nothing that says they were the same goddess

  • @hisaffliction2138
    @hisaffliction2138 5 месяцев назад +1

    Okay so wen Wu still found them in a tomb, the same that was probably raided by the Clandestine

  • @ryno1509
    @ryno1509 5 месяцев назад

    I’m sure we saw something similar by the early red room in Agent Carter, where the widows were handcuffed to the bed they had to absorb American culture that was in the 40s or 50s

  • @ponchi7928
    @ponchi7928 5 месяцев назад

    yay jessica!!!

  • @All-Things-Marvel616
    @All-Things-Marvel616 5 месяцев назад

    Also on episode 4, we can assume that gamora was on sakaar in 616

  • @steev927
    @steev927 5 месяцев назад

    been holding this back for a bit... Sylvie is Angrboda. Search the mythologies and correlations.

  • @OnlyOneTubing
    @OnlyOneTubing 5 месяцев назад +5

    was D'arcy snapped?

    • @wolfking2787
      @wolfking2787 5 месяцев назад

      Darcy...not D'arcy

    • @OnlyOneTubing
      @OnlyOneTubing 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@wolfking2787 ...that wasn't the question.

    • @kimberlyjeanne9456
      @kimberlyjeanne9456 5 месяцев назад +1

      I don't think so

    • @OnlyOneTubing
      @OnlyOneTubing 5 месяцев назад

      @@kimberlyjeanne9456 Thank you Kimberly.

  • @JetWolfe77
    @JetWolfe77 5 месяцев назад +1

    Darcy would make for a good double agent // Skrull

  • @ArtfromHell
    @ArtfromHell 5 месяцев назад

    For the TVA, Loki, the Watcher, Captain Peggy et al to be able to perceive the sacaried timeline/the loom/Yggdrasil, they would have to be higher dimentional entities, 5th dimentation at least.

    • @lightdarksoul2097
      @lightdarksoul2097 5 месяцев назад +1

      To be fair, Peggy was able to see it thanks to the watcher's help. He seems to exist in the space between universes where Loki is.

  • @Anand2024
    @Anand2024 5 месяцев назад +4

    What If MCU was animated series and movies rather than live action

    • @Luneytoon
      @Luneytoon 5 месяцев назад

      I like this or they can make the series as animations but leave the movies live action

    • @drgaidhane
      @drgaidhane 5 месяцев назад

      Absolutely not, we wouldnt get a gem like Loki series then @@Luneytoon

    • @lightdarksoul2097
      @lightdarksoul2097 5 месяцев назад

      It would just be the same stuff

  • @CultureHealers
    @CultureHealers 5 месяцев назад

    Darcy could have been a recipient of one of Tony's MIT grants

  • @donaldharper9223
    @donaldharper9223 5 месяцев назад

    It's gd see u😊😊

  • @carltondgaines
    @carltondgaines 5 месяцев назад

    I ❤ Jessica Clemons

  • @jonathanstafford3383
    @jonathanstafford3383 5 месяцев назад

    So I was actually under the impression that hela is lokis child that he sends back in time to Odin and Odin knows this the whole time he raises Loki

  • @mason-.
    @mason-. 5 месяцев назад +1

    I think What If Peggy is being set up to eventually join the Captain Britain Core and guard the multiverse

  • @KINGCUZ51773
    @KINGCUZ51773 5 месяцев назад

    First, welcome back! Glad you are feeling better!! Secondly, I felt EXACTLY the same way about “Wacky” Wakanda!!

  • @cosiquite
    @cosiquite 5 месяцев назад +2

    What if Loki killed Sylvie?

  • @Anand2024
    @Anand2024 5 месяцев назад +8

    What are your opinions about What If Season 2 ?

    • @lexramstudios1386
      @lexramstudios1386 5 месяцев назад +2

      I really like it! I thought it was better than season 1

    • @scotttsang735
      @scotttsang735 5 месяцев назад +4

      It’s really good and loved it

    • @nailinthefashion
      @nailinthefashion 5 месяцев назад +4

      Kahhori represents the future of the MCU. Bright, proud, and inclusive. 10/10

    • @sutapurachina1758
      @sutapurachina1758 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@nailinthefashion Idk about being bright, the past few movies kinda fumbled.
      Really wish for deadpool to meet the watcher or loki tho

  • @michaelpereira147
    @michaelpereira147 5 месяцев назад

    The grand master was just confused about Asgard and the ass guard he hired at his last kinky party

  • @tyfrier2434
    @tyfrier2434 5 месяцев назад +1

    Jessica!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!😁

  • @luckylogan7093
    @luckylogan7093 5 месяцев назад

    Strange supreme has shown us how to recreate a universe!

  • @hoopworkshop
    @hoopworkshop 5 месяцев назад

    I wanted to see What If .. Gorr The God Butcher completed his mission.

  •  5 месяцев назад

    According to some rumours the TVA is putting together a team to confront the Council of Kangs.

  • @xRoLsWaRx
    @xRoLsWaRx 5 месяцев назад +1

    There goes the view drop lol

  • @ugly_god_king2478
    @ugly_god_king2478 5 месяцев назад

    im wit my sista on that one wakanda kinda wrong for that LMAOOOO

  • @VoltageApollo
    @VoltageApollo 5 месяцев назад +1

    What if the 10 rings are actually rings for a giant in the MCU and the rings are too big for humans. Maybe someone from Eitris race had them and knew all this potential and that’s how Odin knew of them.

  • @ms.blackcat
    @ms.blackcat 5 месяцев назад

    Is the paint on Captain America shield made of vibranium too?

    • @shamanspointofview8083
      @shamanspointofview8083 5 месяцев назад

      You know, I’ve never thought about this, but yeah, the paint should have had to be fixed dozens of times by now

  • @alexisislas-gonzalez5991
    @alexisislas-gonzalez5991 23 дня назад

    The Christmas could potentially happen in earth 19999 if no way home didn’t include happy getting arrested after seeing May dead

  • @sixty8ight
    @sixty8ight 5 месяцев назад

    darcy is a nexus being.

  • @thelostpawn
    @thelostpawn 5 месяцев назад

    ::::Thor ‘Yes’:::: Jessica!

  • @LucasGnagy
    @LucasGnagy 5 месяцев назад +1

    It’s Earth-199999!

  • @eden20111
    @eden20111 5 месяцев назад +1

    Wait, I’m confused. I thought Loki was holding just the 616 universe and its branched timelines…? Where does it say he’s holding all the universes together?

    • @kimberlyjeanne9456
      @kimberlyjeanne9456 5 месяцев назад +1

      The sacred timeline was held together by HWRs loom and they pruned any that HWR deemed not part of the sacred one. Loki broke the loom to give ALL the universes a chance and is holding all the branches together

    • @shamanspointofview8083
      @shamanspointofview8083 5 месяцев назад

      Everytime the multiverse is explained

    • @eden20111
      @eden20111 5 месяцев назад

      @@shamanspointofview8083 but where?

    • @shamanspointofview8083
      @shamanspointofview8083 5 месяцев назад

      @@eden20111 by the watcher, kang, ms minutes, and that’s all I can remember off hand

  • @TheTravelerww
    @TheTravelerww 5 месяцев назад

    What if...Hala's mother was a frost giant. specifically the same one who is Loki's mum. Hela and Loki do have a resemblance. Loki could have had an affair with his ex, creating Loki then started a war to "claim him"

  • @kylel278
    @kylel278 5 месяцев назад

    Yaaaaayyyy more Jessica please❤

  • @brandin8r550
    @brandin8r550 5 месяцев назад +1

    Not enough spiderman 😢

  • @again-again-again
    @again-again-again 5 месяцев назад +3

    Damn, Wakanda really was bad, huh? So Killmonger is a hero?

    • @lightdarksoul2097
      @lightdarksoul2097 5 месяцев назад +1

      Not really a hero since he only wanted to use their power to hurt and rule which isn't great either

    • @victornieves1794
      @victornieves1794 5 месяцев назад

      Wakanda was not bad. They stayed out of foreign issues so foreigners would stay out of theirs.

  • @TheProteanGeek
    @TheProteanGeek 5 месяцев назад

    You really can't assume many of these things were in the movies timeline in the way you want to. They have timelines where the focal point has nothing to do with a bunch of major changes that are just background bits to the episode. Like Groot and Korg working with Howard the Duck.
    I also dont see why one would think that Loki is just holding together the "616" universe timeline.

    • @lightdarksoul2097
      @lightdarksoul2097 5 месяцев назад

      Well it started with 616 and infinite amount of different choices in that line made a multiverse which had their own branches and so on and on. while it started with 616 it can be anything now

  • @Caleb-tn8xx
    @Caleb-tn8xx 5 месяцев назад +2

    Hello hello nerds and geeks. Greetings to buff and meeks.