MARVEL WHAT IF Biggest MCU Timeline Implications
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- Опубликовано: 5 янв 2024
- Season 2 of Marvel’s What If…? gave us deeper insight into moments on the MCU’s sacred timeline.Start the Good Habit at tryfum.com/NEWROCKSTARS to save 10% off the Journey Pack today.
Even though Marvel’s What If…? series shows us characters from different universes, there are still storylines in the series that play out exactly as they do on the MCU’s sacred timeline in the 616, before that “what if?” moment changes everything. So what implications can we take from What If…? season 2 to learn more about the events in the main MCU timeline? Jessica Clemons lays out some of the biggest timeline implications, including how Howard Stark got the vibranium to make Captain America’s shield, more info about the origins of the Ten Rings, and how Loki God of Stories could be planning his comeback.
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I mean... Killmonger's whole origin story in the movie is all about how shady Wakanda is
The one detail I noticed was how happy became a hulk in more than one universe
Yeah I noticed that to so ig he's mainly a hulk across the multiverse and our 616 Happy just got unlucky
@@arsenalplayz825 yeah sadly he’s actually a good hulk too unlike a certain hulk
Maybe the episode where he became Hulk its set in the same universe of the 1602s ep
Its cause he asked that the Freak be included.
It's the same Happy from the christmas episode, he was just transported back in time with the other avengers when steve ruptured the time stone. It's why he's gone with every one else after peggy fixes the universe.
Considering that the rings glow a different color for Wen Wu and Shang Chi, it's likely that they may possess a connection to more than the Space Infinity Stone.
Loki is holding the Mutliverse together not just 616 and its branches.
616 and it's branches are literally the multiverse, so i don't get what you're implying here
@@again-again-againthere's different universes and different branched timelines
@again-and-again - at the end of the video they say that Loki is “only” holding together the 616 timelines, and that his powers must allow him to see “beyond” 616. Seems like the author of that part of the script thinks that “timelines” and “universes” are separate things.
@@alexdavies7351they're literally the same thing, branched timeline= Different Universe
@@NateVolkerseriously, why is it so hard for people to know they're not different things? It shouldn't even be controversial
Imagine: Loki S3 - Loki can see across the multiverse like the Watcher does but not the same way. He starts to watch other Loki to see how they each end up. Eventually being able to communicate with other Loki, Prime Loki ends up trying to "help" other Loki avoid making mistakes and going down terrible paths. Maybe even being able to project an avatar of himself onto a timeline with practice?
How about what..if? Season 3 start off with the watcher saying I want you to meet a friend of mine. And takes us to loki inside the tree. And then Loki narrorates an episode. And they switch back and forth doing episodes or they just narrorating one episode together. Then the watcher leaves.
I want our Loki to make a cameo on the coming movies much like what Stan Lee did back then.
I wonder if they will include post-loki series Loki in the next season.
I'm not sure about that since it's likely he can't leave his throne
@@lightdarksoul2097considering how powerful he is now, i would not be surprised if he could project any of his illusions on any part of the multiverse to communicate with its people
@@RindouHasRan that's true I just imagine him like Atlas though. Where time loses all meaning to him but he has memories and flashes of every timeline he holds
They must do since they showed him as the tree. Just because he can't leave his throne doesn't mean he can't be visited
@@jadeshepherd8627 with the watcher saying this narrating is his job I think he may be talking to Loki himself along with other watchers. Speaking of the universes that Loki keeps alive
I think Loki and the Watcher are working together in some way and I would be so excited to see them meet up inside the tree throne room.
More Loki and Peggy? Yes, please!
I feel as though the gifting of the vibranium for the shield and the other samples, was just the safest way for them to get field tests for that advancement.
I think the first time Wakanda gave their vibranium is for Captain America's shield because the 1602 is mixing 2018 and 1602 so that isn't really part of the 616 history/timeline!
One of the best seasons of Marvel tv ever imo
Saying “MCU Universe” is like saying PIN Number. The U means Universe.
ATSV:
• ATM Machine. The "M" stands for "machine."
• Chai tea. "Chai" means "tea."
@@davekisman2763 queue means “line”. When people say “queue line” 🫣
Glad you are feeling better Jessica!
Loki's job seems exhausting
Captain Carter and Strange Supreme are the standout characters from this series. I'm really hoping they get a lot of live action screen time soon!
Captain Carter makes for a very handy Lore/Exposition delivery character.
Scary thought Scarlet Witch in the red room😱😱😱😱😱
Even scarier thought....Scarlet Witch is in charge of the Red Room and controls all of the Widows 😮
All I want is Captain Carter and Super soldier Steve to have a happy ending, throwing shields around together.
So ready for next season
Thanos didn't know that Hank Pym knows how to do a handstand.
Strange supreme ever losing a fight is wild
I love when Jessica does the videos
That's 2-eyed Odin. He didn't get wisdom until he lost one eye.
i'm glad you are feeling better
Thanks for the video. I definitely noticed a lot of those canon items.
Awesome video Jessica!!!!
a lot of Easter eggs in what if of what could be in MCU for sure! What if is multiverse cannon as of 1st season ha. This is awesome. All the actors returned to voice their characters adding another level of awesome to the series!
Glad to see you back and healthy Jess!🫶
Glad you're feeling better
7:58 it also could be extremely likely that this Grandmaster kept an eye on the avengers. While the grandmaster, we know from the Thor movie could care less about anything happening outside of his little kingdom
At the end of what if Nebula joined the Nova corps we see a lot of Nova corps members, of which it looks like we see Blue Marvel, Adam Brashear
cant wait for season 3!!!!!!!
If we get mutants I'll licherally be hooting and hollering
I'm hoping to see Kahhori in live action
Insane as always
GURLLLLL!!!!!!! Your skin looks amazing on camera- gorgeous!~WERK!
Good video!
great video :)
I would love to explore the modern day of Kahhori's Universe
Excellent
HELLO JESSICA!!!
I caught that Gracie's Corner "meeeerch!" 😊
Some powerful relics, like the ten rings, could be from realms decimated by Asgard, like Svartalfheim or Jotunheim, which were even older than Asgard.
The Wakanda shaaaade! Jessica you’re a gem. Please stay and talk to us forever.
I think the ship nebula walks on is a refrence to the old film flight of a navigator 🎉
I think the butterfly was supposed to be stephen strange
Jess I love your glasses!!!!
So glad to have you back Jess!!! Hope you are feeling better, you're looking well rested, energized, and ready to break down all the questions left after What If Season 2.
Jess, are you back back??? If so, imma resubscribe lol 😆😆🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️
My snacky shnack is baaaack! I’m talking about YOU JC!! 😁
I kind of want the ten rings to be baldhur’s weapon when he got “cast out” of Asgard
Love that LuLu is back!
That Wakanda joke got me cracking!! Fr these blokes was shady lol!!
Totally unrelated but I love your shirt!
I need to see scarlet witch vs strange supreme
There is a physical world mind in the queue line of Walt Disney World’s EPCOT park where we see it in the line of Guardians of the Galaxy: Cosmic Rewind, the best roller coaster on property!
11:48 which probably foreshadow something with Atreus’s life
my favvvv is baack
How do u guys get such detail, it’s so difficult for me to remember small details in English when reading books and tying it back to other things
Love from Belgium 🇧🇪 ❤
30 seconds crew, Yay!
Not sure that things are the same in the main universe but for ONE difference.. the variance we see May have splitten from a previous variance and so on..
The wakanda in 1602 Is even more complicated since web have a Steve Rogers from even another timeline so maybe they May have donated vibranium in consequence of this Steve arrival.. plus every character existing in 1602 and with powers makes the timeline very different from the original
Ok. Let's do what if season 2 re-watch this weekend.
Odin had Freya and Frigg as wives at different points in mythology there’s nothing that says they were the same goddess
Okay so wen Wu still found them in a tomb, the same that was probably raided by the Clandestine
I’m sure we saw something similar by the early red room in Agent Carter, where the widows were handcuffed to the bed they had to absorb American culture that was in the 40s or 50s
yay jessica!!!
Also on episode 4, we can assume that gamora was on sakaar in 616
been holding this back for a bit... Sylvie is Angrboda. Search the mythologies and correlations.
was D'arcy snapped?
Darcy...not D'arcy
@@wolfking2787 ...that wasn't the question.
I don't think so
@@kimberlyjeanne9456 Thank you Kimberly.
Darcy would make for a good double agent // Skrull
For the TVA, Loki, the Watcher, Captain Peggy et al to be able to perceive the sacaried timeline/the loom/Yggdrasil, they would have to be higher dimentional entities, 5th dimentation at least.
To be fair, Peggy was able to see it thanks to the watcher's help. He seems to exist in the space between universes where Loki is.
What If MCU was animated series and movies rather than live action
I like this or they can make the series as animations but leave the movies live action
Absolutely not, we wouldnt get a gem like Loki series then @@Luneytoon
It would just be the same stuff
Darcy could have been a recipient of one of Tony's MIT grants
It's gd see u😊😊
I ❤ Jessica Clemons
So I was actually under the impression that hela is lokis child that he sends back in time to Odin and Odin knows this the whole time he raises Loki
I think What If Peggy is being set up to eventually join the Captain Britain Core and guard the multiverse
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First, welcome back! Glad you are feeling better!! Secondly, I felt EXACTLY the same way about “Wacky” Wakanda!!
What if Loki killed Sylvie?
What are your opinions about What If Season 2 ?
I really like it! I thought it was better than season 1
It’s really good and loved it
Kahhori represents the future of the MCU. Bright, proud, and inclusive. 10/10
@@nailinthefashion Idk about being bright, the past few movies kinda fumbled.
Really wish for deadpool to meet the watcher or loki tho
The grand master was just confused about Asgard and the ass guard he hired at his last kinky party
Jessica!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!😁
Strange supreme has shown us how to recreate a universe!
I wanted to see What If .. Gorr The God Butcher completed his mission.
According to some rumours the TVA is putting together a team to confront the Council of Kangs.
There goes the view drop lol
im wit my sista on that one wakanda kinda wrong for that LMAOOOO
What if the 10 rings are actually rings for a giant in the MCU and the rings are too big for humans. Maybe someone from Eitris race had them and knew all this potential and that’s how Odin knew of them.
Is the paint on Captain America shield made of vibranium too?
You know, I’ve never thought about this, but yeah, the paint should have had to be fixed dozens of times by now
The Christmas could potentially happen in earth 19999 if no way home didn’t include happy getting arrested after seeing May dead
darcy is a nexus being.
::::Thor ‘Yes’:::: Jessica!
It’s Earth-199999!
Wait, I’m confused. I thought Loki was holding just the 616 universe and its branched timelines…? Where does it say he’s holding all the universes together?
The sacred timeline was held together by HWRs loom and they pruned any that HWR deemed not part of the sacred one. Loki broke the loom to give ALL the universes a chance and is holding all the branches together
Everytime the multiverse is explained
@@shamanspointofview8083 but where?
@@eden20111 by the watcher, kang, ms minutes, and that’s all I can remember off hand
What if...Hala's mother was a frost giant. specifically the same one who is Loki's mum. Hela and Loki do have a resemblance. Loki could have had an affair with his ex, creating Loki then started a war to "claim him"
Yaaaaayyyy more Jessica please❤
Not enough spiderman 😢
Damn, Wakanda really was bad, huh? So Killmonger is a hero?
Not really a hero since he only wanted to use their power to hurt and rule which isn't great either
Wakanda was not bad. They stayed out of foreign issues so foreigners would stay out of theirs.
You really can't assume many of these things were in the movies timeline in the way you want to. They have timelines where the focal point has nothing to do with a bunch of major changes that are just background bits to the episode. Like Groot and Korg working with Howard the Duck.
I also dont see why one would think that Loki is just holding together the "616" universe timeline.
Well it started with 616 and infinite amount of different choices in that line made a multiverse which had their own branches and so on and on. while it started with 616 it can be anything now
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