The Custom Motorcycles of Bali | The Reason Big Bikes are So Rare
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- Опубликовано: 20 авг 2024
- We visit Australian custom motorcycle shop, Deaus Ex Machina and then rode over to Samurai Customs to have a look at the custom motorcycle selection.
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Deus Ex Machina, Canggu
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Pison Cafe, Petitenget
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Import duty on bikes in Indonesia is 0% under 250, 60% under 500cc and wait for it 95% for 500cc plus so your GS 1250 works out about 40k !
My LORD!!!😳 Thank you so much Stuart- I’m pinning this comment to the top
It’s not the import duties, it’s a luxury tax, import duties applied to the completely build up (CBU) motorbike, so some manufacturers who sells mid-size engine motorcycle (250 > 500 cc) build an assembly line here to build the knock down one so it will get lower import duties, but the luxury tax remain the same.
@@faisalarh yes you are right my terminology as such is wrong, anyways a tax is a tax. Interestingly branded foot ware also has a high “luxury” tax so Freddie might have to continue wearing flip flops😀
@@stuartmoles843 It's a shame that our government imposes very high taxes and excise duties on large-capacity motorcycles.
So there are many examples of people who bought large-capacity motorbikes illegally, who didn't pay taxes and excise, came to Indonesia by breaking them down into several parts and assembling them here.
Especially Harley Davidson motorbikes, many of them are illegal.
Are you able to do a motor swap and put a 500cc motor on a little 125cc bike chassis or would they find out somehow and tax you ?
The older I get the more I realise you don’t need anything more than a 250. They’re lighter and just way more fun. Another cracking video from the two of you - thanks.
Same...most fun with a motobike is between 30 and 60miles/h so no need for anything above 250. Even my 125s are plenty 😊
@@gintonicmunich I went straight from GS1200 TE to a CRF250L and it was the best move ever. Just so much fun to be had below 60mph.
@@christga100 I agree entirely with that. I’ve ridden 125 bikes and scooters on a full licence. They’re also cheaper to maintain and the mpg is astonishing.
It really depends on where you ride. I'm italian, i live half an hour ride from the appennines, and i'm not very keen on being overtaken by cars on the road. Having tried several bikes, 650/700 is probably enough (especially with emission limits). 250cc? lol, good luck riding toll highways.
I’m 60 now and my next bike will almost certainly be a 125 scooter on a full licence.
Lucky you having been in this paradise of good weather, delicious meals, interesting bikes and so on...we have the winter back in some parts of Europe, no except England
I can’t believe it- there’s proper snow in England!😳❄️
@@FreddieDobbs yes it is! Snow in England! My friends from Much Wenlock posted pics how they helped push cars trapped in snow...
Get the XSR! I loved it so much i kept extending the rental, as you said i was surprised it was only a 150cc as the bike felt like it should have been bigger. It's was so nimble riding round Ubud and Ungasan, it never missed a beat and a lot of locals asked questions about it. Love the vids, great to see when Englands under 5inches of snow 😂
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Been following Deus for a while and I'm still so blown away by their style and aesthetic from bike design to their shops, apparel, and artwork!
They’re off the scale cool aren’t they!🔥 They capture the freedom vibe perfectly👌🏻
Deus…they’re a custom builder? Any videos that show before after ? Only in Indonesia?
Awesome vid, Freddie! I'm from Indonesia my self but been living in Ireland for about 17 years and I've been following you for a while now and I'd never thought you would visit Bali, one of my favourite places on earth. Beautiful island and super friendly locals but it has become way too touristy and overcrowded. Deus is also one of my favourite biker brands since I'm a biker my self riding a Ducati Scrambler to commute to work in Dublin. Enjoy your stay and hope you'll have the time and chance to visit the other islands. Sampai jumpa!
Hello Freddie ! I'm from Indonesia, i live in Bandung. I've been watching your channel since last year and i gotta say, your passion for automotive is insane ! While you're in Indonesia you should definitely try a 2stroke bike my friend, the 2stroke culture here in Indonesia is really insane, there's a bike called Yamaha Rx-king that bike is like a legend in our country infact that blue yamaha bike in the video, that Yamaha Rx-King hahaha. Trust me if you love instant acceleration you'll definitely love riding a 2stroke bike hahaha cause i ride my ninja 150 ss 2stroke daily 🤙
yea 2 strokes are amazing especially for smaller displacement bikes. Anything below 500cc will suck compared to a 2 stroke. What year/model is your bike? Don’t think we have it in the USA
Great to hear from you Agan and thank you for this- I’ll try and borrow an Rx-king. I’ve never ridden a 2-stroke in my life!😳
@@Fee.1 yeah 2stroke is really an amazing machine ! My bike is a 2014 ninja SS, it's really popular in southeast asia unlike in America & Europe, 2stroke basically never died down on the 80s 90s, in Indonesia the manufacturer still sell 2strokes till 2015 ( they did whatever they can to pass the euro test but sadly it failed to pass euro3 ) the price of secondhand 2strokes bike are insane actually !
@@FreddieDobbs trust me, you'll be surprised by it's raw power 😂 Rx-king is only 135cc, but i bet that's gonna the fastest 135cc bike you ever tried hahaha, oh yeah and one more thing, you need to rev the engine real high cause it's different than a 4stroke engine, in 2stroke the powerband is quite shorter than a 4stroke engine so make sure you hit the powerband in each gear, otherwise the bike will be slow as hell 😂
Enjoy your stay in Bali Freddie & Monika ! 🙏
@@FreddieDobbs Freddie you have to do a RUclips search for “2 stroke power band” they’re like a different animal, they don’t work like 4 strokes. It’s like a baby turbo
The Yamaha is cool, reminds me of the old RZ350 from my youth. I think the Kawasaki is more Bali-esque so probably the better choice on this tour!
I’ve had many motorcycles over the years and the fondest memories that I look back on are the fun smaller engined motorcycles.
Another Amazing video from you guys, thank you for giving us an insight to the bike scene in Bali, yes it’s touristy and the roads are congested but that’s part of the appeal. I’m going to suggest a holiday to Bali with my family. Great work Freddie and Monika
Good to see Samurai Customs are still going strong, I was in there a few years ago, they build some cool little customs.
Very cool video showing some of the custom bike scene in Bali. Larger capacity bikes are likely more trouble than they're worth given the local conditions anyway. Although I was really digging that custom CB400 @ 16:25
I guess that's why bikes like the new Ninja ZX25R, 4cyl 250cc, make sense and are quite popular in some parts of the world.
So many bikes, the streets are packed with mopeds! Loved the Deus café, I didn’t know there was one in Bali, it is interesting to see that you can actually rent the bikes out… definitely will add Bali to my “places to visit” list.
Thanks for the content Freddie & Monika. Enjoy your time there! 🏍️
And no deposit, 30 seconds of paperwork and £22 for the day. It’s so easy🙂👌🏻
Most are not mopeds !.
I used the Yamaha NMax while in Bali over Christmas. It really is the Dogs B....s. Some of them have proximity keys! Enjoy Bali and its lovely people :)
I think we have Euripides (Greek playwright) to thank for 'Deus Ex Machina' - literally God from the Machine. Towards the end of a tragedy, he would often have a Greek God lowered onto the stage by a primitive crane (the machine) who would ensure a good outcome for the hero. Now a great company with a really good vibe. Enjoyed the vid, Freddie & Monika. (For the next bike, definitely the Kawasaki first, then maybe the Yam.)
Some very smart small capacity bikes there Freddie ! 🏴
wow...first time I have seen a scooter/motorbike traffic jam..LOL...the Doors playing in the background at Samurai...outstanding..excellent video as always...
Great watch. And great to see small bikes can be so great.
Safe, happy travels 👍
Those Deus bikes are wicked.
If it were me I would go for the Kawasaki. They both look great so, you have nothing to lose with either one. Thanks both for this and all the past great videos.
That custom Kawasaki W175 looks like the Kawasaki Barako 175 here in the Philippines. I have tried Yamaha XSR155 and that bike is so Fast, even though XSR155 has lesser cc than the Kawasaki Barako/W 175, they have huge difference in speed. I ask Yamaha dealership staff why XSR155 is so fast, they told me it's because of the VVA inside XSR155's engine, "Continuous increase of speed in a Low steady Rev" that means they tuned the bike to be fast. Nice classic bikes at Deus there at Bali. 🏁 Enjoy your adventure both.
Very interesting! I was wondering how Yamaha got around this, thanks for this insight🙂
Bali looks like an amazing place but the traffic ... crazy. Hope you both have a brilliant time.. looking forward to upcoming videos
Rent motorcycle and travel to another island like lombok, sumbawa, and flores (labuan bajo). But if you have adventures hobby
Well with all the snow ❄️ here atm I’m very jealous of you guys there in Bali. 😂 you did tell me Freddie there was a cold snap coming and me like nahhhh 😂 keep the sunshine coming
I can’t believe the cold snap came so late! I’m glad you remembered my warning!😆
But the cold snap and snow doesn't half make for fun riding. Who needs sand 🤣
15:10 I'm not going to lie - that's how we used to ride them around UK fields back in the 70s and early 80s. Minus the custom paintwork and the fancy seat. Rev them up and kick them into first to get a wheelie. Lol. 😂
Great video Freddie and Monica, seeing some interesting small capacity bikes too.
feel with you for the custom classic bikes...coolest stuff 😍 cheers from south of Germany - wait for the temperature to go up.
Good choice on w175..its carbureted while Yamaha xsr155 is basically modern. The styling on Kawa is way better!
Bye the way its snowing here in England as I watch you .... enjoy!
I’ve seen a few pics- it’s quite thick in places, and in March!😳⛄️
I've owned a purple Yamaha guitar, but never a motorcycle. The Kawasaki looks like a fun one to try. I've owned two Kawasakis, a ZX1100, and a VN1500N1. Great memories. Heck, both would be fun to try😁.
Glad your feeling better freddie! Have fun rest of trip 😍😍
This Deus shop looks great mate! By the way I knew from the beginning that this little scooter would not fit you, especially Monika! LOL Wish you a great time in Bali!!
Great stuff... I think the Yamaha looks Gorgeous. I'd go for that.
I was VERY impressed by the size, feel and build quality of that 155cc Yamaha👌🏻
Reminds me of my time in Ho Chi Min City where by appearance there are as many scooters and small bikes as people. Given such congested big city conditions, a smaller displacement scooter with an automatic transmission has a lot of appeal for their maneuverability and your reaction time. Great fun too. Seeing a Harley riders group drive by was areal surprise but they are out there too.
i must admit indonesia , thai and vietnam has the taste of custom bike.. even my bike is also custom into brat cafe racer after saw some bikes in Indonesia thru my ig feeds
Always a treat ✨️ to watch your content. 🙌
My Missus rides an XSR125 and it’s an absolute hoot. I often find an excuse to take it out for a thrashing.
Hi Freddie, the Yamaha will have more power and cope with the heat better than the Kawasaki. It’s also a much newer bike. But the choice is yours, personally I’d go for the Vespa 😁
Thanks Serge!🙂
i ride w175.....and it's great got no problem from short or long riding
Love your enthusiasm Freddie for the bikes .I had a Suzuki van van 200cc loved it called the sand camel sold it as to slow for motorways.
I LOVE the vanvans !
Awesome video as usual guy's Blown away with had mad it is there on the roads, I reckon if you filmed that area with a drone, all the scooters buzzing around would look like a colony of ants! Look forward to the next vid..Cheers
Awesome video again I would love to visit Bali :D
Awesome video as always Freddie. Been watching for quite some time now! You’re a huge inspiration as well, me and my love hope to travel and ride as much as you do this year or the next! Just wish I could bring my Moto Guzzi with me!
That’s very kind of you to say so, Tanner!! I know how you feel because I always with I could have my Bonneville with me too🙂🤘🏼
Here’s to many adventure🤜🏼🤛🏼
Wow Freddie I thought India was mad when it came to bikes But gotta say Bali looks total chaos lol! Surprised there’s not a collision every few seconds love it tho & would like to visit one day!
I am AMAZED that I haven’t seen one collision yet!😳
That’s my lovely little red Honda 😊
Very much like in the Philippines. Ride safe and God bless you both Sir Freddie 🙏🙏
Thank you sir🤜🏼🤛🏼
Really fun video freddie, yes w175 is quite popular in Indonesia, even the president of Indonesia has a custom w175
Nooo way! I love this fact!😃
If you search "ri1 w175" on youtube you can find the video of the custom workshop that worked on president bike as well as the bike itself
The XSR 155 are Yamaha answer to Kawasaki W175 on a retro look motorcycle, but with a twist of modern amenities (LED lighting, digital speedometer, etc)
Right of the dealer W175 looks classier than XSR 155, but I personally like the XSR155 more, because it beefier than W175, but when comes to customization, W175 is a good canvas bike due to more conventional looks frame.
Brilliant to hear your thoughts on this Faisal, appreciate it🙌🏻
Loving the vids both you a cut above the rest of the RUclipsrs even the wife loves it that's a first Freddie. Stay safe both. 👍
Love that XSR. Enjoying your Bali adventures 😊
Thanks Freddie - and Monika!! a wonderful journey of experiencing Bali first hand. I think the Kawasaki because of the larger seat, gotta think of Monika!! She is so much smaller but does need to balance the camera and hold on... Graeme NZ
Sazuki TU250x would thrive there, maybe even a Sazuki Vanvan. The Vanvan is really fun
Bang on- I’d LOVE a VanVan here😃🤘🏼
@@FreddieDobbs Do some fishing there, find out how. BBQ it up afterwards. You need a fish tie, fishing license. Obviously, the breakdown rod would let you go by motorcycle, then just tie the fish to the handlebars on the way home. Do it Hawaii style. If you're going to be there, you got to ride a little 250 cc Japanese dual sporter man. Go get one. Also do a little life and bike talk with the locals. Have a traditional meal... Get that bike bro
Nmax is amazing you will love it just the right size and power i gave up my harley for one in cornwall lol just so easy for nipping around and 125 mpg
I got the Kawasaki W175 because of your review on the Mutt Motorcycle, I like classic looking bike. Now Mutt is available in Indonesia, I might check on them when they decide to open their workshop in Bali.
As for the XSR vs W175, both are light and easy to ride, but XSR has smooth gears switching and I think the seat is more comfortable for the passenger as it slightly leaned towards the front.
Yamaha Nmax 155 and PCX 160 are the best bikes you can get in Southeast Asia. They are affordable and have enough power for a day trip. And you can still filter trough the traffic
Those baby Bonnies really should do well there (though I'd prefer to see wire wheels over mag. alloy on them). Try to negotiate a luggage rack with whatever you rent there, apart from the obvious advantage, there's always a great grab rail (and the mounting point for a board rack😉).
I could feel my vit b levels rising watching this video in dark and dreary Barry south wales,stunning camera work again
Sending all my best over to Wales, Andrew!🏴☀️
Love that gold Yamaha DT
Great video as always, I would choose the Yamaha, cheers Freddie and Monica
Great vid Freddie, thanks
love the yamaha colours Freddie.
For 250-500cc bikes there is a 60% luxury tax on the import value (or sale price for bikes manufactured in Indonesia), and 95% tax for bikes over 500cc. Also, for import bikes, the government takes its sweet time to license them as they homologate each individual bike. I had to wait 7 months to get the road papers for my RE Meteor 350, and one year for the owner book! All in all, a pretty sad situation for mid-size and big bike enthusiasts in Indonesia.
Fascinating insight, thank you for sharing this, Mark. It’s been an eye opening trip to Singapore and Indonesia- the governments have total control over the kinds of bikes purchased with huge taxation.
Between the Kawasaki and the Yamaha, I’d sit on both with Monika and see which one feels more comfortable.
Pretty sure I spotted a Van Van (might be mistaken), now that would be fun!
You may have a more eagle eye than me Shaun because I’ve been looking for Van Vans, but haven’t knowingly seen one yet. A good point re Monika, because I think the Kawasaki will be very uncomfortable😳
Hi both I am a scooter convert to have alongside a bike. As well as my car, for 10yrs or more since having a twist and go belt drive, my sh300 is my go to ride. Looks like A 125 goes like a 400. Had x max250 before. Prefer honda for performance but yam for comfort weather protection and maintenance. Rear disc brake on honda is horrid as is taking rear wheel out of any scooter. Had a go on t max but just too heavy and cumbersome. Can see Monica on a twist and go wherever u call home😁. Wonderful channel
If u get a chance try a300cc scooter u will be surprised
I hope you get an N-Max. It has the same 155cc engine as my Aerox, which is the sports version. Much more underseat storage than the Scoopy. 5:19 The W175-engined custom looks fabulous. 13:44 Another W-175 custom. Rent it, Freddie! It will be miles for comfortable than the Scoopy. I don't know how two of you manage on it. 15:14 I agree. Cool bike! XSR155: you see them everywhere in Thailand.
What a couple of stunning bike shops.
We’ll definitely rent at Nmax for a longer road trip we’ve got coming up- I cannot wait to try it!!
I’ve just picked up a W175 for a couple of days… here goes😃🤘🏼
@@FreddieDobbs I can't wait to see you ride the 175. Twist & go in the city is so much eadier, though. Going out on my 390 in a few minutes. Regards, Nick
Yamaha!!🏍
Glad you found the shops. You can also try Malamadre.
I like both bikes Freddie. The style of the Kawa but the retro livery on the Yamaha is beautiful. Now the one I want is the Honda CB400 you said? You should pack it to the UK
It’s great to watch but I honestly could not cope with that amount off bikes on the road, your a better man than me 👍
I promise you the unorganised madness somehow works😆🤷♂️
The XSR 155 is more comfortable because of the monoshock suspension and assist/slipper clutch. However, the W175 has that "classic feel" - the vibrations, engine sound, sketchy shifting and underpowered performance.
Ok 👍👌 Freddie
I'm also a fan of the W175. Kawasaki not updating it to fuel injection is all that is keeping me from getting one.
Oh wow, I didn’t know this😳
@Freddie Dobbs I was too hasty in commenting this. The ones here in Philippines are carbs, but a quick search in other markets like India are showing fuel injected versions. Not sure of those rental ones in Bali.
My first bike is that Yamaha XSR 155 in all black. I think that would be the better pick since it also has a slipper clutch already and very easy to handle.
I was seriously impressed by this XSR155. It’s a properly put together bike💪🏼💪🏼 Appreciate the tip, Angelo🙂🤜🏼🤛🏼
Wow the custom bike scene there is massive. Don't you think a company like Mutt would do very well there! Love the vibe and custom scene, absolutely right up my street. Low capacity custom retro bikes everywhere. Love it. I remember from one of your podcasts that you said that it would be pointless having a Harley on those streets and now I see your point 😂😂
This is a very good point Andrew- Mutt would do incredibly well here! Haha yes, we’ll remembered- I think I’ve seen just one Harley so far!
Hi , full on traffic ,no wonder they strip them back , to get through the maze . Luxury tax , keeps every one under control and on a level footing ? . Magic as usual Freddie and Monika , bet they don,t do vented helmets , with air con ?😉👍👍
It works very effectively (like in Singapore).
I think there aren’t even safety standards for helmets here- most say “For Indonesian use only”
That traffic 🤯 😂
For pillion rider comfort you can try the Avenger
I have started collecting motorcycles between 50cc and 200cc and there a lot fun. I like my Hayabusa and Ducati but small bikes are more fun
Great video mate - always interesting to see Bali's custom motorbike scene, it's really amazing.
Have you seen a 2-stroke gang yet? They only come out at night in their hunting groups
I have seen the two stroke gangs ripping about- they love them here!
@@FreddieDobbs they actually go to some of the bigger roads with longer stretches and street race. Might be an interesting video on 'Indonesian street racing scene'.
Ohh Freddie & Monika, going to the beach on a rat bike😂😂😂 that chain will be not just sloppy, it’ll be cactus with sand, grit & salt water😉 Wow guys, Bali is crazy traffic to which I’m not in favour. Far too many tourists 🏖️
I’m just hoping they’ll prepare the chain before I rent it, otherwise it will not survive the sand!😳
The next video is away from the tourists- it feels like another world🙂
Loved the video and it would seem the low cc bikes are slowly being pushed over here too it would seem with 650 being classed as a big bike these days for a modern market. All fun bikes but love my XVS1300 for touring in comfort. Looking forward to seeing some of the countryside out there, it does seem a little manic most of the time.
The next video’s far away from the crowds and into the jungle, Dale🙂
They may be pushing smaller bikes here in the UK, but the Govt plan to ban new fossil fuel vehicles from 2030 (or 2035?) includes bikes, wait for it, UNDER 125cc !
I'm out in Bali in 3 weeks, hopefully I'll bump into you. 👍🏼 picture request incoming haha
Flag me down if you see me Joe!🙂🤜🏼🤛🏼
You should both sit on each to see which has the comfier seat. We usually hire scooters on our travels which are fine for short hops but agonising ass ache on longer runs😩😅 The Kawasaki W’ s are lovely having said that.
Not far from us now, might as well jump on a plane to Darwin, Australia and come for a ride mate….!
Darwin is a place I would LOVE to visit!!🇦🇺❤️
Oh Freddie I do hope you both have adequate travel insurance and are fully covered while riding one of those bikes?
I think when choosing which bike to rent next the seat length and width should be a priority consideration for Monika on the back. Ride safe both.
I’ve (for the first time😳) actually got proper travel insurance, so we’re covered👌🏻
Hoping they’ve extended the insurance to cover riding bikes as standard travel insurance does not 😳. Riding in flip flops and no safety gear apart from a crash helmet could also be an issue even if you do have bike insurance so take every possible care!
Custom Motorbike scene has grown alot in Indonesia, but i still dunno why Deus is still being one of the best custom build "bespoke" bike in Indo. Like if i have money, i will build my bike there not with other custom workshop in my city.
And even Charles Leclerc Ferrari F1 driver, loved "Bali Style" custom build of Deus that he said probably if Monaco govt allowed him to bring his rent bike in Bali, he would pick the Deus bike to bring to Monaco😂
Whatever Monica wants.
Anyway...road typical in indonesia, it's fit for under 250 cc...like u knew bike here in indo can't use highway /toll road...
As my experiences for turing and adventure, 250 cc bike is the best choice for indonesia nature and condition
Great stuff from you two , I'd go for the Yamaha if only because it looks in better nick !
This is very true- the Yamaha does look much more solid👌🏻
Hey freddie.i know you are a fan of classics and cruisers. Was just wondering when you're in the U.K. again if you and Monika will produce a video on the Super meteor?I must have watched your original meteor video at least 6 or 7 times. Really enjoyable vids.saludos de Lincolnshire
This is the number one bike I want to try as soon as I’m back. I cannot wait to try one!🙂
The Yamaha would be my pick especially if they are the same price, it just looks cool and in good condition, not really into the rat bike thing. Whichever you choose Monika needs to like it too
Lets go. First. I know i love it already
Thank you! I hope you enjoy it!🙂
@@FreddieDobbs Yes i did . Prefered the Yamaha ,cause I own a Yamaha and chain on that Kawa was wow . Lets wait and see how did on it.
The Yamaha did look like a far more solid bike. Those XSRs are very well screwed together bikes💪🏼
In my scooter days we called that under seat storage the “pet carrier” as a joke because our scooters had a sticker saying NO PETS😆
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I am surprised Royal Enfield doesn’t have at least one sub 250cc bike. The market is huge.
They should remake the flying flea
Agreed!
Go for that rugged looking kawasaki mate. That yamaha looks good too but kinda ruined the Bali rustic vibes a bit because of its newer looking condition. However, the chains needs oil though.
Wow thé w175 is a sweet looking bike!
Isn’t it!🤩
I'm riding the Yamaha xsr 155 in Singapore but in Singapore you can't do much customizations on it unlike in Indonesia .. smooth ride however
Interesting regarding modifications! The XSR is a seriously well built bike💪🏼💪🏼
@@FreddieDobbs and I also believe the bike that was beside the red /white/black xsr that you sat on in the video , that bike is also an Xsr 155 ,customized
Get the Yamaha one, for less of a future headache (because it’s a newer bike)
The real gem that is rare in Bali is SUZUKI Bandit 150, quite popular in Thailand though...
I had no idea this was even a thing!😳 My eyes are peeled for these now, thank you🙌🏻
@@FreddieDobbs yes, as their engine is exclusive for South East Asian market and only introduced in 2018, totally new bike.
Is that an Indonesian, come Cornish pasty. Must remind you of Falmouth. Looks like you're having a great time. Nice.
4:45 that little is yamaha RX-King, 110cc i think 2 - stroke. It so agile if you ride on the city, fun bikes but....yeah, they have negative stigma in here