ZOHD Talon GT iNav Setup and flight
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- Опубликовано: 31 мар 2019
- Matek F405 Wing board mounting and iNav setup. Test flight to tweak the trims and check modes.
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Nice you got it working fine. Happy flying
Thanks for video! Got a few good tips on setup in iNav! And to setup my future Rebel GT
Andrew man thank you so much for this video. I'm building up a GT at the moment and this is a tremendous help!!
It's the best iNav platform
Thanks Andrew for another fantastic video! :D
Thanks for the opportunity, really enjoying this one
Great video, Andrew! You're onto something with regards to the control throws... I too have waaay too much control authority in manual mode. I wasn't even aware I could limit them in iNav, still learning my way around it myself... lol I 100% agree with you, it needs some adjustment on the linkages to mechanically limit the throws to something more realistic. I believe that would allow the FC to work better. I had the same issue when I put an old Storm in the Nano Talon. I was unable to "tune" it to fly well in any stabilized modes until I adjusted the aileron linkages to get more resolution from the servos. Longer horns on the surfaces would help. I will likely check to see if there's room to move the linkages closer to the servos on that end first, if not I may raid my box of parts and find some longer horns to bolt on. By the way, I flew mine again today, nothing real exciting as it was still a bit too rough/windy to do any further tuning, but I did take it a couple miles out and flew around for 20 minutes or so. I may edit something and post that soon unless I get more exciting footage first. lol Anyway, thanks for the great content as usual!
Thanks Keith. Means a lot to get your agreement. I'm envious of your wide open flying space.
@@AndrewNewton it is weird to see two "BIG" talking to eachother on YT... funny though.. I follow both
Someone with a DJI always has to rock up and ruin it for everyone! Haha! Great video Andrew.
Yeah, curse them
Great video Andrew, I feel lucky now, I noticed one of my control horns had a crack where the balljoint was screwed through, so I replaced them both with
what I had on hand, and being one hole longer than stock I've now fixed another problem I was unaware of. Good news also, the stock horns are screwed only,
no glue makes for easy replacement.
Cheers from the south.
Nice one. What rates are you using now?
Great vid ty, got to fly mine today and omg it was a dream just about to go over video and send it up to the tube if you did wanna see the maiden, my yaw was backwards, but I was having to much fun to care lol... 😁🙏🏻👍
Sweet, I'll check it out.
Coming from Betaflight, I found this very helpful - thank you!!
Happy to help Matt
Definitly my next ship :D Great explanations.
Sweet. You can go places quickly with this one
✌🏻
Nice one..Cheers.
Thanks for sharing the vid.. New plane pilot, just gathering info..
Looking good #1
Seems to be s big seller in the USA
Out today flying the Cessna 150z & your Ranger 1600 & Met Peter & Allen!
A couple of interesting and very clever characters
Hi Andrew,
If you get the sticks to where it is flying level in manual mode and do a servo auto trim for 2 seconds then land and disarm, it will have the servos in exactly the position they need to be for level flight.
Now do your manual adjustment of the pushrods to get the surfaces in the same position and fly and do an auto trim again and it will be perfect.
Auto trim is a great way to take the guess work out of where you think the pushrods should be and get it right the first time.
Thanks Dean, getting there.
@@AndrewNewton It's a learing curve! But I haven't had any inav relates faults in the last couple of versions.
Great videos Andrew, my GT Rebel is on the way (was $100 off on summer sale BG).
Partly because of your reviews it convinced me.
A question; I always had this “phobia” of magnets near flight controllers, and thus always avoided the use of strong magnets to keep hatches down. Did you ever find this to be problematic or interfere with sensors?
I know the GT rebel uses the magnets as well so I’m very curious about your thoughts...
Thanks in advance, Gert.
Excellent Gert. It really is a well designed plane, fast and efficient, and packs down into a backpack in minutes. I have never worried too much about magnets, other than keeping components a few cm away from them. I did see an ESC go crazy once when a loose magnet stuck right onto it.
Thanks for sharing this, I'm trying to get my rebel gt ready for maiden but this is my first vtail setup I've been flying inav wings only. I notice there's no build in reflex on elevators on this one did you add any or leave flush in neutral position? Also wondering why yours wants to go left? Thanks again
Thanks. That was 4 years ago, I have a more recent INAV setup for the Talon GT. Also slimmed down the nose for much better efficiency. No reflex, I just let INAV continuous servo trim take care of that. www.youtube.com/@AndrewNewton/search?query=Talon%20GT
I do the fc shelf system too.
Great minds!
Andrew first I want to thank you for making this video! I wanted to ask about what you ended up doing in order to tame the Talon. I’m in the middle of setting mine up and I have already installed longer horns on all control surfaces and I’ve also moved the servo rods to the lowest hole on the servo horns. And still, this model has way too much travel. Currently I cannot go any lower than 10mm of travel for elev/rudder and 15mm for aileron. What else can I do to further tame this plane?
Same, longer control horns and I reduced the rates as well.
I think in the documentation, matek tells you what your current scale needs to be to get accurate current reading
Yes that's right Henry 317, but scaling is not the problem. The current reading drops from 0.8A to 0.2A as I throttle up. Fried current sensor or resistor I suspect
doesn't sound like anyone else has mentioned it, @4:15 your min throttle should be around 1050 and the min command as 1000 just because your mototrs won't start generally below 1050 as the esc can't run them slow enough, you can also run into arming issues. your current sensor should be set to what is listed on the matek FC page (317 I beleive). nav_cruise is alt hold and heading hold
Excellent thanks. I started with current sensor at 317 and that was giving a reading of 1/10th expected current. Just trying different scaling to see if that's the issue. May be dodgy soldering or fried components
@@AndrewNewton checkt he matek website for the flight controller.. I don't have one of mine to hand to check what mine is. is it a reading of 1/10th of the current or it's a 1/10th off? i've got 5-6 F405 wings and they're all pretty much spot on within a few milliamps. not enough for me to worry about
I have another F405 Wing board that work as expected with 317 but this gives false current readings for some reason. With scaling of 317 it doesn't move from around 0.4 for the whole flight.
@@AndrewNewton sounds like a bad current sensor or shunt resistor
Great overview of iNAV, Andrew. On my F405-WING I had to raise the current monitoring scale to 317 before I got an accurate reading. Btw, I heard CASA is proposing a $20 per-model registration fee - is that right because it sounds crazy
I was originally at 317 and current was 1/10th of expected, may be a problem with the board or my soldering, but everything else is working well. CASA proposal is up to $20 per pilot
@@AndrewNewton Weird 🤔 So the registration thing it's per 'pilot' and not per model? That makes more sense but it's still kind of outrageous. I got the news from Bruce Simpson over at XJET. Maybe he misread the article
Bruce is spreading incorrect media reports. He should know better.
@@AndrewNewton I rewatched it and to be fair he did say he could be wrong and that "appears" you'll have to pay $20 per model
I use Autolaunch all the time Andrew,, works really well every time, I dont even hold the TX...its a 25 second timeout...This bird is tricky to launch with a 5200 4S...and Autolaunch can react way faster than manual inputs...I have the CLI codes if you need them...Take her down the Beach and stretch her legs...lol.
I have used autolaunch extensively, just prefer power assisted launches specially with big heavy planes.
The trick is to have the correct Parameters, crucially, having the motor start as soon as it leaves your hand...Try these, works for most if not all planes..: You may want to shorten the timeout to suit.
set nav_fw_launch_velocity = 300
set nav_fw_launch_accel = 1500
set nav_fw_launch_max_angle = 30
set nav_fw_launch_detect_time = 10
set nav_fw_launch_thr = 1900
set nav_fw_launch_idle_thr = 1000
set nav_fw_launch_motor_delay = 100
set nav_fw_launch_spinup_time = 50
set nav_fw_launch_min_time = 0
set nav_fw_launch_timeout = 25000
set nav_fw_launch_max_altitude = 0
set nav_fw_launch_climb_angle = 15
Hi Andrew, on maiden I found it wanted to dive with flat elevator. Can you tell me how much up elevator uou have to fly level? Thanks
From memory a few mm but I'll check again. I haven't fiddled with GC much yet
Would you mind trying it on 3S with a 9x4.5 prop? I am thinking of using a 3S 3000mah to keep it light but afraid of prop breaking on landings
4S 3000 right forward with Mobius camera on top is as light as it can be for correct CG. You would need 3S 5000, but I can try that.
@@AndrewNewton Hi the bettery is LiOn or Lipo, thanks
I was right it is fast, 111km/h 🎩👍🏻, great Achievment, keep going, 🇦🇹Vienna Anton
I was never pushing it so much more speed available. I'll test a full speed dive soon
@@AndrewNewton it was my suspicion as i saw Your unboxing, i tought this One will be a fast One, i am sure it can go a lot faster. 🚀😁
What is better gps mode for airplanes nav poshold or nav althold? Thanks
Both are useful. Read what they do in the iNav Wiki
@@AndrewNewton Thanks i miss that part. It says that the aircraft will loiter in circles on position hold. Not very useful. I think nav althold with nav cruise combination is the best. Thanks again
Just wondering. Does anyone have dialed in settings for the talon gt running inav 2.5? Would be greatly appreciated.
Marc Hoffmann would I'm sure. ruclips.net/channel/UC76s-8uSH8-hUzYYrGG4OJg
@@AndrewNewton thank you. I did not see any settings on his channel. However I shall bruch up on my German and ask him. My plane flies and boy does she pick up some speed. It is just that it rocks side to side and I think my piff settings need adjusting. I could tinker with it though It would be easier if I could get a working "diff" file from someone for inav 2.5.
😉👏👍 how to set acro mode?
Acro mode is called AIR mode in iNav. It's always on if no other mode is selected.
Ok thank you
Roll max = 45 max Pitch = 20 deg.....Max dive angle 5 degrees...Loosing height fast on rth is not a good thing....Try Autotune...switch it on, bank and dive climb for the entire flight, but switch it off just before landing...reboot will save ideal Pids..its easy...try it...gives smooth flight, first time...lol.
I intended to try Autotune but quads, dogs and golfers got in the way
Ah, I see, how inconsiderate of them.....lol.
"Bit rough"... nose falls off... :)
Rudervator..... *-)
Thanks Chris, I'll add that to the dictionary
What?
;-)
Hey Andrew, (know your in Australia) but have you heard about casa wanting to introduce $20 per craft, per year registration fees? You'd be bankrupt if you paid for all your models!
The CASA survey we contributed to said up to $20 per pilot, not per model. I think there are about 7 CASA inspectors in Australia!