The drivers and spectators knew the risks and accepted those risks willingly. That's all, including the tragedies, part of what defined Group B and what makes it extraordinary. Toivonen, Vatanen, Kankkunen, Rorhl are all known to be quoted for it, I'm sure other drivers as well).
Certainly. I'll give you Vatanen: ?v=wDxt7a7Zov8 If you'll research/google a bit more, you can find all the other mentioned ones as well (for sure, because I did :) ) ...
***** No, you're the one being confused ... or just plain ignorant. Vatanen almost died and still drove even more Group B rallies afterwards; so hell yeah he was accepting the possibility of dying and not seeing his family anymore; all drivers were !
Nobody ever said/claimed deadwish; don't put words in my mouth. And no, the drivers did not back away from Group B after the incidents, eventhough they were the first to warn about the risks involved (before the deadly incidents).
Just imagine trying to read pace notes at those speeds and beyond. Include trees, slippery roads and people and then you can truly appreciate the true masters of the sport.
Transcription from 0:55. Malmedie (left) is M. Schelle, the driver, is S: M: "You do the start yourself, I'll press it" S: "And then we go. Ok. Three, ..." [driving] S: "Ah. Fuck. Wasn't that great, it could still go better. Matthias, I'm sorry. I'm not quite one with the thing yet. Can that be?" M: "Are you completely nuts?" S: "But there's something [special] to it, right?" M: "Dude..." S: "We could've done more, at times, eh?" M: "You know what I was wishing for at times? A HELMET! S: [chuckles] M: "After the first two meters, I was only like 'GIVE ME A HELMET' ... Dude, this is totally insane!" S: "Yeah, it's wicked." M: "Old Swede!" [German idiom; in this case equivalent to "Dude!"] S: "You have to imagine..." [accelerates] M: "Yea yea yea, it's fine" S: "You have to imagine, normally the co-driver would be reading out loud where to go. Can you imagine... or rather, can you imagine actually understanding what you're being told?" M: "Ey, that's... one can't describe what is happening in this car. I think... that was the very first time that I was sitting in a car and wasn't telling any stories. Because I couldn't. Because I didn't want to. Because I was solely focused on surviving. This car accelerated forward like such a grenade, Niki was only driving this little... this little past this wall. [fingers spread apart] And there, by the boulders, this much! [fingers spread apart a bit closer] And at the same time..." S: "Well... a little wider than that, really" M: ".. and at the same time, he does this:" [gesticulates wildly] S: "Well yeah, you have to, right?" M: "Ey that's just... what he feels while he's driving up with this car... we have ice, we have snow, we have dry sections, we have turns, we have straightaways.... And Niki, he's doing this... [gesticulates wildly again] He's doing this the entire time!" S: "Well, we don't have any grip, that's the problem. I'm in the third gear [inaudible, but I think he says he's going out of gear], and that's why you always have to look out. He's not quite doing what I really want here." M: "Yeah but your... your head has to be... I mean, your head, your feet, your hands have to be faster than the car is driving, so that you can think ahead and at the same time... I mean... you have absolutely no time in here. S: "Right" M: "You have no time." S: "Right. It's like drifting on a runway where you oversteer... No. You have to do exactly what is necessary right now or else there's nothing." M: "And you only have one try." S: "Exactly." M: [Shows stopwatch] "53:48. Errr, 53:84." S: [To someone outside] "53:84. Let's see what that time is worth."
That’s why there is no rally without Lancia. The Fulvia, Stratos, the 037b the mighty S4 aaaand the best of the bests, the HF Integrale. Good ol’ times...
I dont think you know what you are talking about, your comment hints at that since it is a stupid comment. i dont know if you have ever seen any of these cars let alone sat in one or better had a ride in it. i doubt it very much.
@@robertorichiusa988 e poi scoppia il diesel gate ahahahaha dove immettevano il 40 percento delle sostanze nocive in più con motori merdosi ahaha....inquina meno la delta s4 di 35 anni fa di una moderna tedesca
@@andrearosato2161 già, peccato che non abbia più potuto correre, ho avuto la fortuna di vederla girare tanti anni fa al Rally Legend con Biasion alla guida e Volta navigatore!
L’ing. Lombardi ha compiuto l’ennesimo miracolo ingegneristico con un un motore che è un prodigio assoluto. È un vero peccato che la delta ECV2 non abbia mai corso ufficialmente perché il suo motore “triflux” era qualcosa di assolutamente pazzesco.
SE LA CASA LANCIA GLI VERREBBE IN MENTE DI PRENDERE LA LANCIA DELTA INTEGRALE EVOLUTION E DARGLI UN LOOK NUOVO MA NON TROPPO XCHE E GIA BELLA ABBASTANZA MOTORE SEMPRE 2000 PIU AFFIDABILE E CON PIU CAVALLI SUI 280 O 300 IO CREDO CHE IL MERCATO ESPLODEREBBE XCHE GUARDATE IL STILE TRA MUSO E POSTERIORE THE BEST THE BEST
Matthias , prima di salire su una S4 lancia , nn mangiare salsicce , altrimenti le vomiti .... Quella macchina lì ti ricordo nn e Tedescha , e italiana......
Ich weiß es ist respektlos aber dennoch klingt das Auto schon immer wie ein alter Trecker der zusätzlich mit extrem vielen Bohrmaschinen und Akkuschraubern betrieben wird... der Sound ist so krank... aber auch ich durfte mal so etwas fahren - das ist unvergesslich!
Una dura lezione per la Germania che si presentava con un audi a dir poco vergognosa e si la lancia s4 era un astronave da marziano in quel campionato... peccato che la dovettero togliere dalle gare era una vera furia... il video è il saund spettacolo ma raccontata da due tedeschi e vergognoso anche perché al ritorno sbaglia mettendo una marcia troppo alta e per poco nn gli muore sotto... italy come te nn cera nessuno...
Авто/Мото
One of the most incredible engine sounds in the world! no words needed...
This car is an engineering miracle
And that's why Group B was the golden era of Rally and modern WRC will never be. Case closed.
The drivers and spectators knew the risks and accepted those risks willingly. That's all, including the tragedies, part of what defined Group B and what makes it extraordinary.
Toivonen, Vatanen, Kankkunen, Rorhl are all known to be quoted for it, I'm sure other drivers as well).
Certainly. I'll give you Vatanen: ?v=wDxt7a7Zov8 If you'll research/google a bit more, you can find all the other mentioned ones as well (for sure, because I did :) ) ...
***** No, you're the one being confused ... or just plain ignorant. Vatanen almost died and still drove even more Group B rallies afterwards; so hell yeah he was accepting the possibility of dying and not seeing his family anymore; all drivers were !
Nobody ever said/claimed deadwish; don't put words in my mouth. And no, the drivers did not back away from Group B after the incidents, eventhough they were the first to warn about the risks involved (before the deadly incidents).
+Noz Ferat 'The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long'... and group B burned ever so brightly.
Just imagine trying to read pace notes at those speeds and beyond. Include trees, slippery roads and people and then you can truly appreciate the true masters of the sport.
Like henri toivonen said before his crash about that car " brain just can't keep up with this speed".
Italian Art...Legendary!
zero electronics and 650hp ... Italian art, the devil on 4 wheels.
la meilleur voiture de rally de tous les temps...
Aujourd'hui Lancia n'existe plus. Merci Marchione.
Degouté
Qu'il soit maudit avec les Elkanns
Transcription from 0:55. Malmedie (left) is M. Schelle, the driver, is S:
M: "You do the start yourself, I'll press it"
S: "And then we go. Ok. Three, ..."
[driving]
S: "Ah. Fuck. Wasn't that great, it could still go better. Matthias, I'm sorry. I'm not quite one with the thing yet. Can that be?"
M: "Are you completely nuts?"
S: "But there's something [special] to it, right?"
M: "Dude..."
S: "We could've done more, at times, eh?"
M: "You know what I was wishing for at times? A HELMET!
S: [chuckles]
M: "After the first two meters, I was only like 'GIVE ME A HELMET' ... Dude, this is totally insane!"
S: "Yeah, it's wicked."
M: "Old Swede!" [German idiom; in this case equivalent to "Dude!"]
S: "You have to imagine..." [accelerates]
M: "Yea yea yea, it's fine"
S: "You have to imagine, normally the co-driver would be reading out loud where to go. Can you imagine... or rather, can you imagine actually understanding what you're being told?"
M: "Ey, that's... one can't describe what is happening in this car. I think... that was the very first time that I was sitting in a car and wasn't telling any stories. Because I couldn't. Because I didn't want to. Because I was solely focused on surviving. This car accelerated forward like such a grenade, Niki was only driving this little... this little past this wall. [fingers spread apart] And there, by the boulders, this much! [fingers spread apart a bit closer] And at the same time..."
S: "Well... a little wider than that, really"
M: ".. and at the same time, he does this:" [gesticulates wildly]
S: "Well yeah, you have to, right?"
M: "Ey that's just... what he feels while he's driving up with this car... we have ice, we have snow, we have dry sections, we have turns, we have straightaways.... And Niki, he's doing this... [gesticulates wildly again] He's doing this the entire time!"
S: "Well, we don't have any grip, that's the problem. I'm in the third gear [inaudible, but I think he says he's going out of gear], and that's why you always have to look out. He's not quite doing what I really want here."
M: "Yeah but your... your head has to be... I mean, your head, your feet, your hands have to be faster than the car is driving, so that you can think ahead and at the same time... I mean... you have absolutely no time in here.
S: "Right"
M: "You have no time."
S: "Right. It's like drifting on a runway where you oversteer... No. You have to do exactly what is necessary right now or else there's nothing."
M: "And you only have one try."
S: "Exactly."
M: [Shows stopwatch] "53:48. Errr, 53:84."
S: [To someone outside] "53:84. Let's see what that time is worth."
The navigator is impressed with the performance 😀
Group B the best by far !!!
That’s why there is no rally without Lancia. The Fulvia, Stratos, the 037b the mighty S4 aaaand the best of the bests, the HF Integrale. Good ol’ times...
Un mostro di potenza altri che tedeschi
Respect forever to The DELTA boys……….
Sorry German, too much for you and for the Audi Quattro. :D
+Giovanni Rauccio cosa ne devono capire....loro fanno le macchine che non emettono sostanze nocive!! =D
To much for the Audi quattro? 😂😂😂
I dont think you know what you are talking about, your comment hints at that since it is a stupid comment. i dont know if you have ever seen any of these cars let alone sat in one or better had a ride in it. i doubt it very much.
@@robertorichiusa988 e poi scoppia il diesel gate ahahahaha dove immettevano il 40 percento delle sostanze nocive in più con motori merdosi ahaha....inquina meno la delta s4 di 35 anni fa di una moderna tedesca
Veramente per l'Audi 4 bastava la 037...
Lancia unica e sola amata da tutti, capolavoro solo italiano❤
I love how even the driver looks scared when driving this car! :D
*Scariest Rallye Car*
*Machine from Hell*
*Forza Lancia* 🇮🇹
I never tire of watching this. :)
La faccia del passeggero è eloquente!! :D
E con Alen Al volante?😁😁😁😁
Che capolavoro.. peccato sia finita così male e presto la leggenda Gruppo B
L'anno successivo c'era la ecv Biturbo 650 cv
@@andrearosato2161 già, peccato che non abbia più potuto correre, ho avuto la fortuna di vederla girare tanti anni fa al Rally Legend con Biasion alla guida e Volta navigatore!
@@DesmoGabe quella era una replica basata su una S4, l'originale ECV col triflux è stata smembrata per fare la ECV2.
@@michelino si si, so tutta la storia, il mono scocca in carbonio è un pezzo unico ma il motore era lui.. e l’estetica pure.. che sogno!
@@michelinoBeppe Volta, THE LEGEND🔝🔝🇮🇹🇮🇹
Che auto leggendaria!!
0-100 in 2sec. Amazing! Pity they were the vehicle that arguably put an end to Group B, along with Ford RS200 crashing into crowd.
Extrem geil und lustig...
Never mess around with the Italian engeniring.... Bella S4
L’ing. Lombardi ha compiuto l’ennesimo miracolo ingegneristico con un un motore che è un prodigio assoluto. È un vero peccato che la delta ECV2 non abbia mai corso ufficialmente perché il suo motore “triflux” era qualcosa di assolutamente pazzesco.
Made in Turin.... Proudly. Bye Lancia:((
That's Lancia Delta S4 AND ALL OTHER CAR IS GAME OVER !!!!!!!!
4WD 600ch turbo and compressor, accélération = brutal
His face.... ahahaha !
Italian Monster 💪
Made in italy ❤️
he didnt even blink for the whole time
But... are you finally back in time?
Devil italian car 👍
Hello Tim, kart indoor chrono powaaaaa😁😁😁
👍
The Italien jop.. 🇮🇹🇮🇹
Did you think that in Italy we are able to make only pizza? we have nothing to learn from other peoples 💪💪🇮🇹🇮🇹
Hai messo il plurale a people, forse l'inglese dobbiamo impararlo come una volta 😅sorry
This car is amazing AND bloody dangerous... Where are head helmets, fire proof suits and fire extinguishers?
Muori da eroe💪🏼
01:03 ha ha !!!
S4 ça marche très fort
the italian rule...!!!
SE LA CASA LANCIA GLI VERREBBE IN MENTE DI PRENDERE LA LANCIA DELTA INTEGRALE EVOLUTION E DARGLI UN LOOK NUOVO MA NON TROPPO XCHE E GIA BELLA ABBASTANZA MOTORE SEMPRE 2000 PIU AFFIDABILE E CON PIU CAVALLI SUI 280 O 300 IO CREDO CHE IL MERCATO ESPLODEREBBE XCHE GUARDATE IL STILE TRA MUSO E POSTERIORE THE BEST THE BEST
Senza casco?
Da waren die Malmedie Hosen voll bis obenhin
😅😅😅 ya sabemosqueen GrB se becesitaba un fisioterapeuta entre tramos cronometrados...
Quando l'Italia contava....
Nemám slov!
😂😂😂😂👍
Ex pro driver..., what can!!. Like a normal person before start, he became 'another thing' when the speed rise and driving in the past.
U CASCO!!!
🇮🇹
Il passeggero sembra che gli venga un infarto 😅
Lancia ♐
this is Bruno Ianniello auto's .... italian rally driver
No hè is a Zwiss hillclimb Driver
@@Paganiproductions84 du hast recht.... sorry
Crash helmets apparently surplus to requirements these days?
was ist das für ein Auto
Bist du ein Renfahrer oder so?
@@pierrebattista7350 das ist ein Lancia Delta S4 ... ich hatte den Evo3 ... unglaubliche Power !
He almost thru up ahaha
Da paura!!!
I missed Mr Malmedie's "Junge, Junge, Junge" & "Ui ui ui ui ui"& "Ater Schwede" during this ride... wtf???
No helmets??
no helmets.
Che bestia però mettete almeno il casco ...
Malmedie o Klismann ?
Hätten sie Det fahren lassen, wär jetzt garantiert irgendwas kaputt. :D
Anca io voglio...
S4 l'auto di Dio
Matthias , prima di salire su una S4 lancia , nn mangiare salsicce , altrimenti le vomiti .... Quella macchina lì ti ricordo nn e Tedescha , e italiana......
Ich habe keine Bremse... molto rassicurante 🤣
So much apeed on those trees...
Ich weiß es ist respektlos aber dennoch klingt das Auto schon immer wie ein alter Trecker der zusätzlich mit extrem vielen Bohrmaschinen und Akkuschraubern betrieben wird... der Sound ist so krank... aber auch ich durfte mal so etwas fahren - das ist unvergesslich!
E' una Grande Auto!!! Uguale a questa non ne esistono!!!!
Avec Toivonen au volant ,le gars aurait vomi😂😂😂
Why didn't they wear helmets.?
+Humpty Was only a fun trip. No hard driving :)
After the run he says, that he could drives still faster...
Lancia s4 e audi s1 il meglio!!
regine
Se hai la fortuna di salire su una s4 resta a digiuno per 3 giorni..prima intendo
Io vomiterei in meno di un minuto come passeggero, da guidatore no ahah
Lancia beat the ass of Audi
Lancia ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Una dura lezione per la Germania che si presentava con un audi a dir poco vergognosa e si la lancia s4 era un astronave da marziano in quel campionato... peccato che la dovettero togliere dalle gare era una vera furia... il video è il saund spettacolo ma raccontata da due tedeschi e vergognoso anche perché al ritorno sbaglia mettendo una marcia troppo alta e per poco nn gli muore sotto... italy come te nn cera nessuno...