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The Lion's return was one of the biggest events in 40k lore - but what has the grumpy old man actually done since returning?
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@@iloveemeralds4622 Sizing up Excalibur at the Caliban Thrift store?
Hello Majorkill,
Would you kindly make some lore videos on the Imperial Truth, the Imperial Creed, the Ecclesiarchy? Pretty please? Thank you.
What if the cybernetic revolt never happened?
Lion: "I have returned!"
Guilliman: "Thank goodness! You're now in charge of the Imperium's armies as Lord Commander by the way."
Lion: "So basically I will be Warmaster by another name."
Guilliman: "Indeed, now I can finally focus on unscrewing everything wrong in the Administratum as a bureaucrat I am!"
Lion: "Yay."
Guilliman shotgunning and lighting a cigarette: "Time to unfuck this posthaste"
And then The drop kick The abbadon.
More like Bobby G tosses the Lion the Keys to the Imperial palace says “Place is all yours” and takes off for a pleasure world for some Relaxation
Gman and the Lion really are the dream team to un-fuck the imperium in 40k, I can't think of any other loyalist primarch returns that would have as big of impacts as them, atleast in a Duo-Primarch sense
@large_fries7144 rogal dorn or jaghatai khan. If either of them come back think how much choas would collectively lose their shit
The funniest scene happened when Lion pinned down one of Chaos Space Marines(possibly warband leader, I am not sure on this one) demanding of him to take the curse, which made his moves so rusty. Chaos Marine had no idea what he is talking about, being additionally pissed that someone had defeated them without much effort, and is sayinng he done this while not at full strenght
He demanded to know who is the person before him, so Lion removed his helmet and introduced himself. The Marine was first shocked, then started laughing
"There is no curse my Lord, you simply grew old!'
And then Lion finish him
Literally the only reason they didn't put him in stasis like Girlyman is because Lion at his peak would *liquify* the rest of the galaxy. Even aged 10,000 years the fights still pretty one sided.
im sure the rust cleared up once he had that whole spirit journey
@@yamahadrag69 I'm pretty sure the lion being rusty is just due to waking up after being asleep for 10000 years
That is totally different from stasis which freezes time
Primarchs do not age they aren't affected by him his "rusty" state is temporary (get ready chaos ....)
@@josephboustany4852 dude is literally processing info of 10,000 years with evolved strategies, tactics, weapons, and vehicles, even new factions. Dude is probably confused at all times and is pretending to know what's happening.
@@josephboustany4852 we both know that's what the lore says. But we *all* know how GW treats previously established lore...
The Son of the Forest book really shows how insidious Chaos Corruption is, Seraphax genuinely thinks he is using chaos for the good of humanity and doesn't realize that Chaos is misleading him into killing the emperor for their own gain. His Plan is completely Logical from his perspective and chaos only needs to twist his mind in tiny ways to get him to do their bidding, whilst he still thinks he's loyal
Tzeentch BS in a nutshell.
Chaos really only works, because it makes people attempt the plausible.
GW and contradictory lore, name a more iconic duo
Disney Star Wars and contradictory lore
@@DarthNethus GW is usually a funny or annoying contradiction, Disney and Star Wars is just sad
Alpharius and Alpharius
@@Lupercalum facts! It's like watching a dead horse get skinned and whipped over and over again, and you have the freaks clapping for more
Unreliable story telling more than anything, the lore had gotten to Guilliman crossing the rift, reaching Baal and heading for the Pariah. Then they went "Wait! Flashback"
I'm convinced the soul removal thing is the reason he was in a coma for 10,000 years. I think Luthur knocked the Lion's soul from his body and it was sent back to the warp. That's why his body aged because it was simply an empty shell. When he came to, it was the Emperor who was fishing (which was a metaphor) to pluck the Lion's soul from the warp and put him back into his body.
i do think primarchs can age at least physically, afterall perurabo was hyperaged by the hrud. and he LOOKS like a grumpy old man by the time of the heresy. he has like, 8 lines on his forehead. afterall the only one who got the emperors perpetual powers was vulkan, so he might be the only one who cant age. we also dont see the emperors true form, only the sisters of silence have.
@@conan2096the primarchs seem to be immortal just like the big E but im pretty sure that has to do with their warp influence. Vulkan is a perpetual because he cannot actually die, he’ll just eventually come back. I think this guys theory actually holds weight that without their warp touched souls the primarchs flesh will age
Seeing how 40k basically copy and paste from history and other writings. The fishing thing is most likely based on the English story of the Fisher King.
That would explain why the Big E has such a hard time doing anything cuz he’s too busy looking for Leman Russ and Jaghatai, I really can’t wait to find out what happened to them. He might even be trying to fix Vulcans mind after Konrad turbo tortured him.
Nah, his body aged like that because he fell asleep in the rock that makes you old
i think it’s hilarious how both times a loyalist primarch returned to the setting, it was a world eater that lunged at them first
Can you think of any other chaos marine dumb enough to take a look at someone who can crush your head in one hand and decide, “I can take them”
"Theres no shitty lore, just shitty writers" Man this is so true, sometimes I wonder what is GW thinking.
I bet they must be thinking: "Data says Space Marine bolterporn sells, so we must make more Space Marine bolterporn content."
They think - "How deep must we deepthroat Blackrock executives for them to give us money."
Cue space marine neo pronoun bullshiet
@@Archon3960well... It has proven to be the most profitable and considering how successful HH was which is basically just all marines bolter porn so GW does have a point.
I do wish we got more xenos books though.
@@colonelturmeric558?
Funny thing about the speculation of a Primarch vs Abbadon showdown.
When Abbadon was told Lion came back his reaction basically amounted to, "ok.... change of plans, we are all in immense and immediate danger!"
The Lion woke up from his 10,000 years of living under The Rock and chose violence.
It's 40k, if you don't choose violence, it will be chosen for you.
Yes. My exact thoughts
You can't blame the Lion for being so unaware about the state of the galaxy. After all, he spent millenia living under the rock
When didn't he choose violence?
And the galaxy rejoiced
Lion "Space Tywin Lannister" El'Jonson: "Hello, everyone. How's your health plan?"
Enemies: *attack!*
Lion "Space Tywin Lannister" El'Jonson: "Apparently it was great."
Hehe past tense
Haha nice Alucard reference.
A Lionister always pays his debts...
Just don't let him take a walk...
It’s so wild we haven’t gotten more Lion books. The first one was solid and there is so much to cover with the DA dealing with the Fallen now
You feel it’s been like a year?? Doesn’t even have to be a whole novel a bloody short story would satiate my hunger!!
Is anything out now?
Lion El'Jonson is about to go for a walk in his Bro-Trip Crusade.
A very enthusiastic walk.
Inquisitor “nooooooooo”
Good reference
Guilliman: AZRAEL WHAT EVER YPU DO NOT LET HIM LEAVE THE IMPERIAL PALACE I REPEAT DO NOT LET HIM LEAVE THE IMPERIAL PALACE!!
God I wish alfabruvasa was still doing tts.😢
So much for Dairy Queen. Imperium can't have shit.
lmao "He's been a busy little bee. Buzz Buzz" cracks me up whenever you use that line. Love the content as always
"One of my Brothers still lives? That's great!
Oh... It's Rowboat?
Well, I'll get around to seeing him, eventually."
Rowboat has to be one of my favorites names for the G-Man
Rowboat😂 That's a good one.
Once I finish winning all the 1v1's he's been taking L's in. Can't wait to rub THAT in his face.
I think what lion means by being less secretive is that he's now telling his inner circle the truth of things and that's what spooking them. They are being shown what he was hiding.
I love the idea of the Risen keeping their old Great Crusade and Horus Heresy era armour, it gives them a bit of a difference to the 40K era Dark Angels, plus the black and red colour palette is much more Dark Angels than their Forest Green colour for the regular Astartes.
Also the Lion's reaction to seeing Dante's Deathmask is so similar to Dante's reaction to seeing that one Necron Lord (I think it was Szarekh but I can't remember) who also had a Deathmask as a show of respect to Sanguinius,
OG space marines in knightly armor > Primaris weaboos
I imagine at least a bit to screaming internally. To stoic for actually doing it externally but had to have at least one "wtf even is this Imperium I fought for now?!" Internally
If calgar, a space marine can kill a hive tyrant, then a son of god can certainly wipe his ass with the tyrant
MC is the king of plot armors
@@elitedangerous7591he REALLY is no cap, he’s gonna fuck around and get older than Dante at this rate. Holding bets on which one of them would die first lol
If Matt Ward were writing, a helmetless Marneus Calgar would take on a swarmlord, a hive tyrant, a norn emissary, and then jump into space to punch a bio-ship into a black hole.
@@stanleylee5358 We miss Matt Ward
Chapter masters are strong, no other explanation needed
"The Codex writers and the book writers don't read each other's work" That's the truest GW comment I've ever heard.
Lion and the bros just hanging out in the secret chambers of the rock hitting the blunt and playing games. Best legion
they are balls deep in a DnD campagin there.
@@elitedangerous7591 man they are living the dream...
Top tiers for sho lol
so that's why they were spooked. they were hitting the boof a bit too much
@@Frank-zv4up yep. Just look at the puffs asmodai's and the inner circle companion models are emitting. Regular marines get second hand highs from the passive smoking.
What if the lions Forest Walk becomes the imperium's Web Way?
THEORY
For the last 10k years the Emperor has been working on creating this massive interconnected forest in the warp which is why he was so inactive for so long, his mind was busy in the warp making his NEW Web Way. And when the lion returned he gifted it to him so that the Emporium could slowly get used to using it until eventually he comes back and gives it to the wider Emporium. Shit would be wild
Swarmlord: Hah! Primarchs aren't that tough.
Lion: Hehehehehehe! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! ...you've been fighting my brother.
You've been fighting my nerd* brother.
Lion: wait, that means you hit my nerd brother. No one hits my nerd brother but me dammit!
The Lion meeting Guilliman is what we need right now.
Gorilla man : Brother! At last you have returned!
Lion : Indeed I have brother. So what about the impe....
Gullible man: It's bad.
Lion: Yeah...
the Lion is being a lot less secretive though honestly, having a meeting with all the DA high command is a lot more than he used to do lol
A video on the the first founding chapters and the relationships between there most prominent successors would be cool
Lion took a VERRY enthusiastic walk.
I'd imagine Dante would pass along the news. I'd be happy with a small tidbit of Gulliman receiving the news
A video on if magnus took the emperors replacement legion would be dope. This is like month 2 I think? But I shall continue
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"what if the Emporer fought for the entire horus heresy" majorkill did this hypothetical that includes a loyal Magnus about a month ago.
Keep it goin
Uploaded right as I went on break. Damn good timing.
The awesome thing about MK is that no video of his will ever be longer than any break you’ll take. Easily can watch one or three of his vids by the time break is over with some time to spare lol
He and azrael have been punching blunts with the rest of the Unforgiven on the rock as they have all collectively decided that the galaxy is too fucked up and only fulgrim seems to be having fun with slannesh
Ironically, Fulgrim is sorta just lazing around with no motivation. The nature of Slaanesh is that no high or adventure is enough.
@@TheHound402 Even more reason to bring back clonegrim and spice things up
@@akatsukicloak I cant seem to remember..did Fabius kept teh clone ?
@@elitedangerous7591 Fabius gave away the clone to Trazyn for his collection.
@@elitedangerous7591 He gave it to trazyn
A Video about the other Primarchs "awakened" Warp Abilitys would be cool.
Yessss🥰
Here me out, Avengers type of scene
" Ultramarines are overwhelmed, and RG is about to go down.
Overwhelming mists come out into the battlefield. "QUE epic music" Lion and His Dark Angels come through the mist.
Saves RG, who says no words as lion and him clasp hands as lion picks him up. No words have to be said as they now know they're not alone. Obviously, there is a sick scene as RG lights the sword, and the lion slams his shield forward. QUE more epic Music. They turn to confront the xeno or chaos scum threat. Then , the 2 primarchs go on an absolute spree using the shield and sword in tandem take down the threat. Super sploosh humanity moment "
For the emperorrrrrr!!!
Amazing
So the new posterboy replace Ultramarine with Dark Angel!
I saw it before me as i read your comment nice one
You should do videos like this for Guilliman and other important characters! I have no idea what’s currently going on. Maybe a “current lore” video every 3ish months
I don't think "The Lore" moves that fast.
I searched for a video about this a while ago and came up with very few results, thank you for covering this
A video of the top ten community made wholesome moments would be great
Be a hell raising boss, that’s what he’s done
The lion and Guilliman teaming up is basically the grim dark version of justinian and belisarius
Would be really keen to see a video on the imperial palace
*Lion sees death mask*
YOU DARE WEAR THE FACE OF MY BROTHER!!
*after a quick TedEd explainer vid from the blood angels*
Lion: oh okay cool how have you been Dante?
I mean Guilliman himself is just sitting in a Desk right now signing papers...\s
You mean standing up, while other people hand him things and then take them away. Remember that scene where he's sighing about being defeated by a piece of paper?
@@KandyKane999 I fucking Love Guilliman for this and I don't even know why.
Honestly I don't mind waiting a little longer for new Lion lore because
A) If the Lion fights Abaddon, the writers will have an aneurysm trying to figure out who's plot armor is heavier and no matter who they choose the fans will be disappointed.
And B) I'm still waiting for my god. damn. Votann lore. It's been *two years* GW!
The Lion knows best, it will eventually be reviled. Loyalty is its own reward.
Been a Dark Angels player since 4th edition. I love the Lion being back so much.
Lion is not my favorite primarch but got dang is his aesthetic with helmet/hood sick
Who’s your favorite primarch mine literally switches everytime I change my boxers it seems lmaoo
@kinguchiha6212 It's either Gman or Jaghatai. I think it's their practical mindset but can still go Super Saiyan and start speed blitzing Orks or punching heads off in space 🤌
I love the hand movements at the end 10:40
Bro is reeling me in for mild a thrust
What if the Emperor wasn’t able to reach Nuceria in time to prevent Angron dying from the High Riders? How would having one less available Primarch affect the heresy with more lopsided sides?
The war hounds would’ve remained loyal and Angron would’ve probably been revived by the emperor
Khorne would still need a primarch champion. Probably best it was Angron instead of someone like Sanguinius or Dorn
I think Angron is predestined for chaos corruption, it's merely the details that which change.
Even a seemingly loyalist Angron I can see falling to chaos. But that will likely be triggered by the fall of the Emperor and Terra. The other dependant factors are his subsequent relations with Lorgar, Guilliman and the Emperor, and if this Angron still recieved the nails or not. If you're interested, I can weave you through my logic?
As with all things, we must wait until Black Library commissions another novel with the Lion. However, since their priorities are always dictated by their parent companies need to have books that tie in with whatever update is coming out, we may not see anything with the Lion anytime soon.
Interesting fact: Lion is actually the first primarch to face the tyranids
idk why the subreddits hate on you. you do your work and research. keep being strong
Hmm, a new lore bomb I never knew existed
Just used the mini-case for the first time on a 2k point custodes army. Worked great. 👍
Personally I'm quite underwhelmed by the Lion's return. We're 2 books in and we don't have any meaningful line of dialogue between the Lion and any previously established Dark Angels character, like Azrael, Cypher, Asmodai, etc. or even Guilliman. Zero in the books, I don't know if there's any in the codex.
He had more interaction with Blood Angels characters, what kind of narrative choice is that?
Also the Lion seems to be happy to fight inconsequential battles on backwater planets with zero impact on the grand scale of the galaxy. The fight with Angron was cool, but ultimately he managed to banish him for a couple of weeks ( mere mortals had accomplished the same before) and lost the planet anyway, failing to prevent Vashtor's ritual.
Compare it to Guilliman: from the start he had many interactions with his gene sons, took proactive decisions for the Imperium, and his actions impacted the setting as a whole with the primaris and indomitus crusade stuff.
I would have expected the return of the Lion, a candidate to warmaster, one of the primarchs Horus feared most during the heresy, the one that walked among his brothers as an apex predator according to Malcador, the one with most conquered worlds during the crusade, the one that took care of the Rangdan AND the Krave, and that bitchslapped Kairos the Fateweaver, to have a larger impact on the galaxy.
Also I found the Lion's change of character too abrupt and unnatural, he does not change and develop during the story, he just wakes up as a different man basically.
I love the Lions character arc. I hate the speed at which we get updates and the writer lack of reading each others material though.
I had such high hopes for the lion story line, but it feels like they've borderline forgotten about his return
Now I need the equivalent of Dark Imperium but for the Lion. Thank you
The Knight of Nihilus, huh?
"The Knight of the End." Or, more directly, "The Knight of Nothing."
Either way, that seems just about right.
Makes sense that Dark Angels secrecy wouldn't vanish overnight, or completely. Interested to see what changes about them.
It’s kind of odd that guilliman got the sword, and not the lion. I thought it was pretty well established that the lion was the greatest swordsman of the primarchs
Asmodaï must be fuming, the bodyguards of his primarch being made only by ex fallen 🤣
Just woke up, needed a chill way to start the day. Woot.
Son of the forest is also a great standalone sci fi / fantasy novel. Its got everything.
He's probably been asking why Guilliman got his own trilogy while he's had fuck all
0:27 a Twelve Foot Ninja reference!?
It's criminal how unrecognized your comment is. They're even Australian.
@@Antheraws I'm glad someone else got it! A little niche, but that song is absolutely iconic in my book
He's secretly sponsoring Battlemace 40 million schmentai
6:44 fun fact emperor shield has a
+100% damage to shield bashing
Because physics and shiled repealing the damage back
Or maybe infinite if you think it stacks
Hehe Asmodai works best with the Inner Circle Companions. Also he established the Protectorate which is an area of worlds he can consistently Forest walk to, which is conveniently not that far from the Startide Nexus; a portal between both halves of the galaxy. Hint hint.
Day 532 of requesting a Commissar Yarrick Major Mini pls and thank you
uperb video as always @majorkill.
Could you make a video dedicated to the Navigators, the major houses, their politics, relation to the overall Imperium and factions
Please make video about Tau Navy: their ships and battles.
Getting the band back together... cue some tasty R&B...
I want a book/short story of the lion and Roboute chatting and strategizing together forgiving each other for past slights and forging ahead as equals but more importantly true brothers. You can even have Roboute trading weapons with the Lion, “A true warrior needs a sword to match” “And a good leader must always protect his people” they hug and part ways knowing now they aren’t fighting alone.
Really hope we get some novels soon.
We need more recap videos for primarchs, chapters and other factions
Lion had one of the best character development among primarchs. His huge ego got crushed. Now he is reasonable and talkative like a grandpa 😆 I hope Russ returns next, more civilized.
Also they gimped the Lion abilities.
I'm just waiting for my glorious WARHAWK BOI Jaghatai
You missed him palling about with the Cowled Wardens, murdering Jahangir - whatever those are.
Can I just highlight Majorkills complexion? Looking good, brother!
If this Friday is a release of what I think it is.. I'm gonna go nuts. Major mini stocks going crazy
The Tyranids were not ready for the Lion to return, the Emperor's Exterminator has mastered amd practiced galactic scale Xenocide his whole Primarch life.
If I hadn't read the night lords book first got the Lions book I would have been a dark angel fan boi too. Love the Lion.
I kinda want to see how the Viltrumite Empire would do in 40k considering they're also attempting to conquer the galaxy
Hey majorkill can you do a video on why the carcaradons have so much world eaters technologies and techniques? They have some of the same weapons that are used on the conqueror like urses claws the ships name is the white maw and they look like loyalists world eaters based off their armor and they seem more close to the ideals of what the world eaters were before angron came back
Hello Majorkill,
Would you kindly make some lore videos on the Imperial Truth, the Imperial Creed, the Ecclesiarchy? Pretty please? Thank you.
Video idea: scholar progenium explained
I think with the forrest walk ability he could be collecting his loyalist brothers one by one. Maybe not present it as that easy but at least its an option for going forward.
The fact that we have only one Lion novel at this point is borderline criminal… not like GW leave that much potential revenue on the table.
I guess he is ok with hunting/finding the Fallen just as long as the Unforgiven don't make it the only thing they do make it more of a hobby and don't kill non-Chaos followers, though being secretive part is dumb.
I don't think there will be a reunion until 11th, on Armageddon, with one more Loyalist Primarch returned as 3 of them feels right. For where he will actually do something going after Vashtorr does feel wrong even though that would bring him to the Nexus but just rushing after him in a vengeance is how Vashtorr got what he wanted.
Plus with threats in Nihilus still really not in control him focus first there makes more sense, like he doesn't need to fix everything but only he with his forest walk and those the Sanguinor are guiding can travel around that half of the Galaxy. So the Unforgiven and the Sanguinary Brotherhood will work together to fight the War in the Gauntlet most likely liberating Vigilus for the Imperium.
I love how Angron is just Old School Kratos nowadays with endless rage and death being a minor inconvenience.
You wonder if the lions new forest walk ability has any to do with the (forgive my spelling) t'chulcha engine or whatever it was he used and spent a lot of time around? I know he still uses it after he gains the ability but there is kind of a similarity in what they both can do, with being able to almost instantly teleport anywhere
Love the lion and would love for some more lore and model updates.
I was gutted when I missed out on the singlets that you released a while back, they were fukin mint.
Keep up the great content fella. 💪😎👍
Straight away, back to Killing Chaos.
A video about, what if there were no loyalist elements in the traitor legions ,this would also count for omegon and magnus. So there would be no need for the culling at isthvaan and weakening of the traitor forces.. this would be very intresting to see what all the effects would be on the succes of the heresy.
I’d like to see a video or at least a short where you break down who you think might be the true identity of Lohoc the red whisper
Bro was lagging so hard it took him 10k years to respawn
For those who haven't read the book please read it it's amazing and kinda heart breaking towards the end
New Video title: What if Roboute found Angron before the Emperor did?
Nuceria was on the fringes of the Ultramar Empire, a bit of a what if moment. Also, would Roboute have a brotherly kinship with Angron like Ferrus/Fulgrim or would they become bitter rivals...because well this is Warhammer?
Would the bond between Lorgar and Roboute be somewhat mended because Angron is the mediator between the two?
Would Kharn actually have a huge impact on the story anymore or would those shoes be filled by Gheer, the original 1st captain of the War Hounds, the first of Angron's sons that was murdered by his gene father?
Instead of the berserker that we all know from Angron, a possible glimpse to another path. Angron, a paladin.
4:15 you also forgot to mention that the emperor doesnt want to be resurrected at the moment because he knows some bad stuff would happen if he was brought back
Exciting time to be a DA fan. Building a Risen detachment as we speak.
Really as excited for more risen/redeemed fallen lore as I am for more lion lore lol
Hi Majorkill, Can you provide us with the video about humanity's war with AI, and why some of truly unreasonable things like "Ordo Armageddon" canon couldn't be used because it wasn't been blessed by specific organ of the Mechanicus for example, so what impact it has had on the deep culture of Mechanicus known today.
Because some things aren't said loud and people doesn't seem to get it, that it needs to be just checked by Mechanicus if the machines they produce earlier wasn't too smart in it's code that would lead to loosing control over machines with AI enchantments etc.