Pathologist details killings of Paul and Maggie Murdaugh | WARNING: Graphic
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- Опубликовано: 12 фев 2023
- Medical University of South Carolina pathologist Dr. Ellen Riemer discusses the killings of Maggie and Paul Murdaugh. Alex Murdaugh, their alleged killer, cried in court during some of the graphic testimony.
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She is explaining the murders of Maggie and Paul with empathy, tact, professionalism, and in a manner that the average person can understand. She is a tribute to her field and to society. I am very impressed. If only the entire world could operate in this manner, what a wonderful world it would be. I hope justice is served for Maggie and Paul.
lol
@@cindybates68 What's so funny???
@@shannonmccarthy4102 lol wtf think
I'm a nurse and I totally agree. I can tell she's one of those docs that we nurses like to work with. I get a sense she treats everyone with respect and doesn't have a big ego. She did a fantastic job on this. 👏👏👏💯
A bit dramatic in my opinion
This pathologist should be hired for every criminal murder case. Well educated, beyond qualified, super easy to understand. Does not try to complicate the information. Her testimony was amazing! Very personable.
She has already testified in a lot of other cases. And judging by the growing number of homicides in this country, she's probably got enough autopsies to perform. I am guessing that if city officials agree with you, when she retires she will be hired to teach county coroners how to testify in court.
She’s very good So smart seems like a very nice woman
Every criminal case eh? Hmm...do you believe in Santa Claus too?
@@schrisdellopoulos9244 come on man, you know wtf she meant ....geez smh
Still don’t prove he did it! In my opinion there were 2 shooters!
This pathologist is the best expert witness I have ever heard testifying. She spoke eloquently relaying horrific details. She was relatable, well spoken in laymen's terms so everyone could understand. She is worth every single penny she made testifying. Very rare to find someone with such talents under an extremely stressful situation where people are watching worldwide.
I agree with you......I wish we could see the drawings, displays, illustrations during this long trial though......
Totally agree. I was thinking what an amazing teacher she must be as she explains everything so eloquently and so well that everyone can understand.
@@levithewonderdog335 It's chilling to hear the pathologists' description of someone's brain being wholly ejected from the skull after a gunshot wound. It must have been a nightmare for first responders to witness something so horrific that they will undoubtedly never be able to forget. I really hope the jurors were not subjected to the images but I suspect they would have had to look at all the gruesome evidence. But that's just horrible!
@@isabellind1292 I'm pretty sure they will have seen them. I was a juror on a murder case and we had all the photos and visited the site
@@bevAmck Oh, it must be really difficult for jurors. I wonder if the images are shown to the courtroom observers as well or if it's the spoken testimony in itself that some loved ones of the victim cannot bear to hear that you sometimes see, having to exit the courtroom.
It's interesting you visited the site. I'm not sure that is done in every case (I could be wrong) but it must certainly paint a clearer picture for jurors. Thank you.
This woman has a talent that she contributes to giving the murder victims a voice. She’s amazing and should be thanked regularly for her service.
She has a very difficult job. I don't even want to imagine the horrors she has seen. I commend everyone who does this kind of work.
I can't say I've ever seen such an educated and incredibly qualified Pathologist. She still calls the deceased by their names, and is gentle in explaining the queasy things to those present with great respect. What a wonderful woman, a blessing to many.
Dr. Riemer even outshines Dr. G (Garavaglio). She is a true professional in her field & explains magnificently.
Do you know if that woman is a court reporter (who has her mouth covered) and is she recording the testimony of the witnesses? Is this the same premise as when court stenographers are typing out the testimony by the witnesses?
Because I'd think it would be more difficult to have to listen to the testimony while you're talking into a recorder as opposed to typing what the witnesses are saying.
@@isabellind1292 - She appears to be a court reporter, dictating the testimony.
@@wholeshebang1 Wow! I've never seen it done that way. She must be exhausted at the end of the day. Thank you.
@@isabellind1292 yes she's a court stenographer and yea she is speaking into it , it is actually called a dictaphone...old school way of doin it.
She speaks for the victims and her passion for facts and excellant communication makes it all understandable.
ageed - but I think she lost the jury with her deep explanation .....
@@laurieparent6619 agree …and her trajectory info is questionable to me. Also, her um, um, um, and her talking to ppl like they are little children, made me turn her off.
Looney tune😅
No she didn’t. There was nothing ‘deep’ about her testimony or explanation. It was concise and easily comprehendable.
@@birdman1326 and in doing so she gave light to how they died and the fact the shooter made sure Maggie suffered.
This is heartbreaking. I will forever be grateful for my sweet dad. Hardest working man I’ve ever known. He never had a lot of money or material things, but he’d give you the shirt off his back or help you anyway he could if you needed it. He treated people with respect, and his word was his bond. I never ever doubted that I was loved. He loved my mom and us kids till the day he died. I wouldn’t trade that for all the money, houses, boats, or power in the world.
What an excellent tribute to your parents. I hope they are/were able to see the excellent results.
My Dad too 😊
You're VERY lucky to have the dad that you do. Not all of us can make that claim.
@Quinn Price, I am too so proud of being raised by 2 of the most amazing human beings. You always knew you were loved and valued. My father is 81 years old and still living. We speak every single day and see each other almost daily as well. He still is very strong and works, or as I would say finds and creates things to keep himself busy. This man is physically busy and doing things that the young generation wouldn't even be able to keep up with him, on a daily basis. He just recently turned his backhoe over and was severely hurt. He broke 9 ribs, most of those were attached to his sternum. The most painful ribs to break. 2 of the ribs punctured his right lung. He also has 2 disc, the T8 & T9 he suffered compression fractures to. He was up and walking within 4 days and was released from the hospital. He has to wear a back brace daily, but he has not slowed up. Even the specialist are astonished at his ability to keep doing what he is doing, without pain meds. My dad calls me daily asking me if I need him to do anything for me. What? I keep telling him I need to be doing for him. He refuses to allow that. He is a man that I have always looked at as a super hero type. He is also a pastor of a church and has been since I was 3 yrs old. I will be 57 years old this year. I was so blessed to be given as the only daughter to this man and my magnificent mother. I have 2 younger brothers who both are almost a spitting image of my father in work ethics. My mother is the most incredible woman. She was in a horrible vehicle accident and has been partially paralyzed since 1988. I watched her peel potatoes with 1 hand and do things that left you speechless with just 1 working arm and hand. She has been the glue to our family and the queen in the eyes of all of us. She is the most loving and giving human being. Saying all of this, I could never understand how any parent could do this to their own flesh and blood, let a lone the person they promised to love and care for eternity, for any reason. Money can create real demons and this is what this man is. A demon! He needs to live his life out in the most miserable way possible for all he has done. Nothing that causes pain or anguish is too extreme for this man to experience for all the evil he has done. God forgive me for the horrible feelings I have toward this excuse of a human being this Murdaugh man is.
@@Soulshine4JesusChrist I loved your tribute to your wonderful parents. However, some people have not come to the conclusion that Mr. Murdaugh murdered his wife and son. It will be up to the jury to decide that once all the evidence has been submitted.
The pathologist is so impressive, her testimony is so thorough and clear. And she showed respect to the victims. Wonderful testimony!
Absolutely 💯
Maybe for an American
I can't say enough about this pathologist. She is educated and answers each question in a way that shows she identifies with people who are hearing and seeing the evidence. She wants them to understand, and does a magnificent job. She also is a person of compassion and displays that with how she speaks of the victims with respect to their dignity. They aren't just a day's work to her......these are people who had names and lives and her compassion is palpable.
Big fan here! ; )
I agree she's magnificent
@@KimberlyBishh so so awesome!! She's a teacher, you can tell. She wants us/her students to understand!
I find it funny when I see comments like this about pathologists/medical examiners who testify at trial. Of course they’re educated and intelligent. They’re physicians. What are people expecting otherwise when they testify?
Thats nice , its lucky she never met Paul then.
pathology is what I'm in school for and this woman is amazing! she did her job impeccably with grace and empathy. the fact that she had to stop herself during Paul's (and Maggie's) explanation of the autopsy and say "it's horrible I know", with the decades of experience she has, just proves how truly horrific these murders were. I can only aspire to be half as amazing of a pathologist as she is!
Medical school or residency ?
Pathologist of the YEAR goes to THIS lady. She explained everything wonderfully. 👏🏆
I'm a trial lawyer. I must say that this is a really good witness.
Where is your RUclips channel homie?
@@gibbie63 I am a working lawyer. No time for a channel.
❤ 💯 Peter
This pathologist is an example of what it looks like when you've found your calling and you are doing and enjoying exactly what God gifted you with the ability to do well.
Pathologist has a very interesting track history on Forensic pathology! She’s a very bright lady and very modest in her achievements! Loved listening to her! Well done professor! Xx
I’m so happy Alex had to hear in great detail the damage he did to his own family! You think gun shot, fast, it’s over. Alex had to hear all the damage that was done step by step.
Alex’s reaction to this testimony tells the whole story. He absolutely did this to his son.
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And over killed his wife!
He’s a liar liar and he’s a loser, who loves money more than family 🤬🤬🤬🤦🏽♀️ AM is faking feelings, but no tears 😭 although he keeps looking at his tissue n fingers looking for tears 😵💫
@@skyzonenaudreybanakas5920 cap
Agree
It's sickening watching Murdaugh try to cry. If you notice he does this head-bobbing gesture as he tries to force tears out. He does this a lot when he feels threatened, The tears should be natural, and instantaneous, not forced. It was nice of the lawyers to stand in the way for us. What we see here is a psychopath trying to look upset and failing dramatically. No tears either from the eyes or exiting the nose. The attempts are interspaced with sneaky sideways glances at the jury to see if they are reacting or noticing his feeble attempts. He did this when first questioned at the murder scene. Psychopaths have a hard time replicating emotions. This, coupled with the fact that they profit from others without remorse, gives him two hits on the psychopathy test. He stole money and walked all over people with no remorse. ASPD is defined as a particularly challenging type of personality disorder characterised by impulsive, irresponsible and often criminal behaviour. Someone with an antisocial personality disorder will typically be manipulative, deceitful and reckless, and will not care for other people's feelings.' I think that describes Alex Murdaugh perfectly. When he thinks the jury is not looking in his direction he shifts and moves about in his chair for no reason other than to try to catch their eye. It is very interesting that he could not get his spectacles any further down his nose, without the falling off. Clearly, if he manages any tears, this is so the jury can see his eyes. There are still NO tears, even after 37 minutes of looking at his dead son Most tellingly of all no revulsion, no horror at the images, he merely sniffs and what we see is him trying to form emotions that he doesn't know how to do, so we have this angry stare and mouth movement. That's not grief. There are no tears in his eyes to explain the sniffing, it's dry. Tears don't come down the nose unless the eyes are clogged, the nose is the overflow. Interestingly Murdaugh claims to have checked for signs of life when his son's brain was on the floor and even the deputy first on the scene took one look and pronounced them both dead, such were their injuries. Murdaugh stares at the images to elicit an emotional response. But Jim Griffin covers the screen for the pathologist's second time on the stand, probably because it's been mentioned that he doesn't try to avoid looking. No parent could even look at these images. What's illuminating, is that despite having upper chest breaths of 48 a minute at times when he's hearing damning evidence against him, (12-16 is more usual) his breathing rate is close to normal whilst looking at his wife and son's horrific injuries. What is also interesting is Murdaugh's lawyer walking backwards and forwards, trying to lead the jury's eye back to his client, who is using a dry tissue as a prop, likely he was told to do this. There are no tears and there is no reason that the lawyer does this backwards and forwards trip. The grief muscle is not engaged in the forehead or the chin, and the mouth is not turned down, so we can tell that he is 100% not upset. The forehead is not engaged, it's smooth. Try pretending to cry and feel how it affects your forehead and eyebrows. This is a poor act. In 47 minutes, he never managed one single tear for Paul, but the sight of Maggie elicits a response. Clearly, he cared a bit more about her BUT, she was leaving him and you don't leave a narcissist. He still manages zero tears. The guy should be destroyed by these images. The injuries to both his son and wife were not immediately fatal, so he basically walked up to two injured people and executed them, which makes him even more callous. It's fair to say that neither victim fought their attacker. Robbers don't walk up, shoot both people several times and then leave without taking anything. There was no sexual element either. This tells you that whoever did it, went to the house specifically with the intention to commit murder and made sure they were dead. So you have to ask what anyone else's motive would be to kill two people in the middle of nowhere. There's no monetary gain and no sexual gain. Who would benefit from their demise? It was an impressive performance by the pathologist. *Update: I suggest, being the narcissist that he is, that Murdaugh was reading some comments on social media and had a practice, because, when he takes the stand and testifies, he suddenly finds the correct emotional face and some tears, although, mainly snot. Psychopaths will spend a lot of time in the mirror practising the emotional responses of other people they meet. If he's on the stand, he's going to have to make a better show of it, so I have no doubts that he watched RUclips and the Body Panel, who have done a few analyses. There are only two emotions I see on the face, one is anger and the other is SHAME. The only time we see shame is when he's looking at photos of his wife's pathology photos; in the shot to the abdomen 1:13:46, the chin and head go down and that is what we do when we experience something shameful. I believe this is because he 'overkilled' her. She was in agony at his feet when he put the last bullet into her head. Again we get a wipe of non-existent tears with his dry prop, a tissue. The sad thing is that even right there he is manipulating the jury. It's what he's good at. One thing I'd like to say in closing about the snotty nose. I think he's used something like methol on a tissue that has irritated his nasal cavity and caused flushing of the nose. It might have made his eyes run, but we've seen no tears before, other than when (coincidently) he is on the stand. At no point is he in respiratory distress when he's showing a bit of emotion and we've all subbed at one time or another. His breathing is normal most of the time, save some deep breaths, which is extraordinary.
Notice how he breaks down in reference to Paul, not so much with Maggie
You don’t think he could have hired someone to kill them ?
Alex didn’t have the nuts 🥜 to kill himself he hired a junky to attempt it.
Just feel like Alex is a psychopath but probably didn’t pull the triggers.
BUT if he was the one who pushed the house keeper down the stairs, that would mean he COULD pull the trigger on his wife and boy. Crazy
Alex was a big time lawyer and you know that. Someone could benefit from Alex being a lawyer.
I saw that too! It's like he can't decide whether to attempt to cry, show disgust or show anguish and he never really commits to any of them. His affect is just off. You said it was better than I did tho!
Excellent deduction! I see exactly what you have. I have never seen a tissue as dry as AM’s. Typically tissues reduce in size and cling to themselves as they get wet. His re-expand as he loosens his grip on them which indicates they are dry.
AM’s act is extremely bad… but it only takes one juror.
Excellent Behavioral analyst
After listening I think I just took a mini course in forensic pathology...She is amazing at presenting and explaining the evidence. I would have loved her as a teacher may have majored in it. Hopefully more of the younger generations watch this and want to be on the right side of the law instead of the wrong.
@ Kat D..The same thoughts I had ..This Professor of Science really had me spell bound in her approach and in covering all the forensic details,without losing respect for the victims... Absolutely Impressive.
It's never too late to learn! You could take classes 👩🏼🎓
Some of the few times I wanna go to school to
Well said Kat d
I was so impressed with her testimony today. She is so technical and easy to follow in what she is saying. I was thinking that the pictures that the jurors had to look at had to be horrific but I hope that her calm, teaching style presentation helped them to look at it more technically and hopefully less graphically if that makes sense.
Too bad the DNA experts were not as clear & easy to understand.
what she was saying was clear and easy to understand but the way she spoke and her self conscious mannerisms, fake jolliness etc. really irritated me and distracted me from words.
The American approach to everything is so loud and overwhelming (even in a slightly physically delicate person like her. Her over use of the word SO was most distracting. vShe started almost every sentence with it.
@@lanah43 yeah she was easily a quintzillion-hundred-batilliom times more likely to not incorrectly identify themselves 🎪
As the pathologist explains the wounds, step by step, it is absolutely chilling to picture this taking place and to imagine what was going through Maggie's and Paul's minds as they realized what was happening. That this man methodically shot his wife and son like this and for what? To garner sympathy and distract from his embezzlement? Truly heinous.
So… sad should just fussed up and took his medicine 😢
@@blue-lilliepeace2617He's from a powerful family where getting away with anything & everything is doable without being held responsible. His family DA's choosing to fix trials, charge & convict innocent ppl. as payback or to cover their actions. Alec thought this would be no different. He expected to control the situation like he did when Paul killed the housekeeper & Miss Beach. His oldest son Buster killed a young man as well. Trying to hide his relationship with his gay lover. Poor young man did not deserve anything let alone killed.
I keep thinking about what Maggie saw in her last few seconds alive. I think he got Paul first, and even though I'm sure it happened very quickly, he had to change guns so....she had to have witnessed her husband literally blow the brain out of their son's head. Then she gets shot 5 times?! This is the definition of cold, calculated, demented, twisted, egotistical, maniacal, and everything in between. According to the testimony of most of their friends, everyone thought they had the perfect life and a happy marriage. Just goes to show that you never know what goes on behind closed doors. Even if he doesn't get convicted for this at least there's some solace knowing his other crimes will have him in prison for probably the rest of his life.
Totally obscene..he had time to think what he was doing..but carried on..Hard to fathom.
If he was putting $50K per week, someone else could have gone after him for "their" money. The crime Mr. M. may have perpetrated was not to go to the FBI. He should have protected his family.
Everyone deserves a person like her on their case. She explained their final moments with such detail. It’s crazy how much damage can happen within seconds.
Hollywood movies glamorize gun shots, but in reality, the amount of damage a bullet does is horrific.
His grief is for himself not the two people he murdered.
You don't know that. They could have been killed because of the boating accident Paul was involved in.
@@sandrageter5221 but we know Alex was there so why wasn’t he killed ? Maggie was an innocent bystander.and why did Alex called both to comeback at the mansion? And who locked the dog back in his cage? All questions not answered yet
I agree he is crying for his self only now and it is only showing a diagram of it...but the night of it happening he didn’t seems to cry then except fake crying...especially when he kept looking at the officer to see if he was buying the story or not. He is only crying for himself and where he is now thinking he was not going to get caught. He blamed Paul and the accident right away had the whole story line on memory too...Smh
I didn’t see grief in his face only rage. He looks more mad that people are having the gall to talk about the facts. He’s a lawyer he could mask his feelings but rage is pretty hard to disguise.
You said it all when you said that.
For all those who feel weird about the passion that she displays for what she does, imagine if that was your child. Leave her alone and keep your feelings to yourself.
I haven't read one negative comment thus far. All comments are complimenting her for her expertise and ability to convey the circumstances pertaining to the injuries.
If I was Paul or Maggie I would not want that kind of enthusiasm describing my gruesome misfortune!
@@MKM508 Exactly of course it always has to be someone reaching for attention in the comments I haven’t seen a bad comment yet
Ive only seen positive comments about her
@@nwcaiea5374 she's a scientist and was excited about being able to piece this together
Most impressive. She sounded like a wonderful teacher explaining and breaking things down so a 10 year could follow along.
Hearing about all these injuries to my son and wife would literally make me sick. He is not innocent
Buster is chewing on his cud . He deserves the father he has .
And he’s sitting there crying…dude - just stop it.
yes, I would have got sick too. I would rather live in a shack with my children then with a monster in a mansion. Poor Maggie suffered & knew she was going to die. She seemed like a very nice lady too. TRAGIC. Her parents are old & now are suffering this. I cant see how the surviving son can handle listening to this. That poor young man had his life shattered. I pray this community & family can somehow heal.
@@bluejava9397
Where is he crying?
I haven't seen one tear....we must not be seeing the same thing.
No tears, just fear.
You think the judge at the end of each day be like “I know he did it”
Right
I think he is so use to seeing these men operate the way they do, that he most likely enjoys the front row seat as these particular Goodol' boy's are held accountable for once!! I bet you this defense team would give nearly anything to get this judge off this case. Bc he's most definitely not a bona-fide member of their "Brotherhood" 🤣
I felt as though Maggie & Paul were speaking thru this pathologist. What a compassionate, soft spoken person. She gave dignity to the victims AM looked flushed. I hope everyone who has to see these pictures gets some mental counseling. Especially the judge & jurors.
Sadly this is life. Do we really need therapy every time we hear of an atrocity. The first responders and the coroner would be the most affected because they see the outcome. It's pay to maintain a level of detachment which enables them to do their job for the victims. There could be nothing worse than recovering the bodies from a high speed traffic accident. Appreciate that these memories won't be quietened by therapy
soft spoken…her voice is like fingernails down a chalkboard.
@@veritas8399 Exactly! I'm a nurse that's seen it all. Today I'm not sure how we get first responders to handle anything anymore. Everybody is traumatized. Every other person claims ptsd. smh
@@sweettina2i guess people in the past also got by without antibiotics but aren’t we glad that medical intervention is ready available and accepted these days! Mental health is a medical issue
@@sweettina2 a nurse? WOW. Looks like someone should take empathy lessons, can't imagine your bedside manner in person 🙄
It appears that the father knows exactly what the forensic experts are saying… what a shame that the son and wife knew exactly what was happening before they died… my heart goes out for all the victims
Exactly. The absolute fear/horror and excruciating pain each must have experienced before they finally died. No one was around to help them .... they're way out in the country.
I agree he had those low crooked glasses on avoid the images he caused im sad to know they passed know he was doing it
If I ever need to be autopsied, God forbid, I want this lady to do it! Her compassion for the victims is unprecedented in modern forensic court testimony. Thorough, concise, dignified, and competent to a fault! She is truly amazing!
I wish I just had one of her brain cells. She is one intelligent human being.
You definitely got the looks
I know! I just look at her and try to imagine what it must be like to be so intelligent and modest at the same time! Her life must be rich.
Anyone can learn, that's why you have a brain. Did you hear how much EDUCATION she got? Why don't you try that? SMDH. Oh, but school requires that you pay attention and not be lazy.
@@THEJET52 Anyone can learn, go to school, expand your brain. There are no limits on learning, just lazy people choose NOT to get educated
Murdaugh is sitting there saying “damn, this woman is describing exactly what I already knew!”
And thinking "I should have killed het also".
As a husband & father I don’t know how he managed not to ball his eyes out while seeing pictures of my loved ones blown to bits. That’s what really makes me believe that he killed them and it doesn’t seem to phase him.
Right, it's not like it happened a Loooong time ago 🤔 it's still quite fresh! And even then..
What da fk are u talking about? He had been crying a lot. He is a man, not a 5 year old child to sob non stop. People are mostly idiots, jealous mob. Until he is proven guilty he is innocent
There are a million reasons why $$$
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Have you heard of a sociopath--that's Alex among other disorders
At one point he does look like he will throw up
Dr. Riemer is amazing. She presents so well, so clearly so that everyone can understand her and she stays calm and professional no matter what. I’m sure her demeanor helped the jury get through having to look at all the pictures from the autopsy. She’s brilliant and so impressive. I’m in awe of her. Dr. Riemer if you see this, you’re a badass and all the physicians and med students you teach are so lucky to have you 💖
Paul solved his and his mother's murders based on that Snapchat video. IMO.
Wonderful seeing a professional expert in their full flow, especially at a critical moment in an extremely high profile case. Very clear, coherent and unequivocal testimony. ✅ A masterclass in oratory prowess 👏 in life, nothing is higher than the truth and the integrity in which she spoke will be one of the significant and defining moments in this court case. A wholly outstanding pathologist, speaker and educator 🙏🙏 Thank you maam ☑️
Can someone give the defendant an academy award for best performance in a trial. At first I thought is was the pain of regent that he could do this to the woman hr had promised to love and to honour all the days of their lives, and to a child of that love. Basically his tears are the hope of convincing a jury he could not have these things.
@@veritas8399 No award necessary as Ray Charles can see the selfishness behind those empty tears. His heavy breathing is for the jury to think he's trying to hold it together, the expression on his face is disbelief that he is in this position and got caught and using that thinking as his way of attempting to display grief, where he fails. Especially with the irritated look and eye roll during the presentation.
Thank you Dr. Riemer for your excellent testimony. I so appreciate your expertise, intelligence and passion for speaking for those that cannot speak for themselves. Retired RN here w/ strong interest in Forensic Sciences.
I remember the first autopsy I attended with Dr Small, Chief of Pathology at Loma Linda University Med Ctr, the day before before nursing school started in 1977. He, also was a humble, kind, compassionate teacher who answers all my questions. I had no idea of his status as he was so generous on that Sunday afternoon, after my shift as a admitting clerk in the ER. Dr Riemer reminds me of my best professors.
She’s one classy lady! Defence is trying to put word in her mouth and she stands up to him beautifully. Love it.
The judge’s expression looking at the pictures of Mrs. Murdagh’s injuries made me feel awful for the servants of our court system. From the police to the jury, all those folks have to see horrible things that have been done by monsters, over and over again. We really should be grateful to them for being exposed to trauma for us and for the victims and their families.
I totally agree and I’m sure they see much worse I couldn’t do it I am sure it takes a toll on them and their families!
Don't worry, that judge is paid extremely well for every second.
@@Janellabelle because money is all that matters, right? Get off my lawn.
@@justkiddin84No, but he can afford a therapist.
She was the best witness called by the prosecution. Very well spoken and very easy for us common folk to follow.
To the perpetrator (Mr. Bobblehead who realizes that he is not getting away with another crime - this time double murder) I can only say: "nooooooobody in his/her right mind believes that you are a victim! You simply pitty yourself for what you have lost & now have to be held accountable of). First of all the Jury & the Judge will look through it & God will punish you accordingly, too.
He didn't kill his family........ Just how to you get that out of circumstantial evidence? You got tunnel vision just like the Cops..
I hope the jury sees it… But look at the Casey Anthony trial everybody knew she did and she got away with it.
He will be punished by the state. Not god because that is a superstition. Welcome to the 21st century.
@@northerngirl4666 I feel so sorry for you. But at a certain time in your life YOU WILL THINK differently.
Stfu . I believe he did not do it. I m well off in life and do not hate people just because they re wealthy like all of u losers who did not achieve anything in life and are jealous of everything
The images in Alex mind of the terror on Paul’s face, Maggi’s screaming and running, trying to skip and Alex’s last words to them are intense and will not disappear from Alex’s conscience
He has ice in his veins...came so close to losing it then managed to recover before she even finished her testimony.
He's a narcissistic psycopath. Have you listened to his early jail phone calls with Buster and him and his partners and brother?
He begs that they send $60 for fellow convict Lewis Johnston's commissary account! He can't quit scamming, hustling and manipulating. Why $60? That's the max amount to deposit. But does Alex just want extra Twinkies? No. Commissary is currency in jail. Certainly Mr Johnston was supplying Alex with his opiates. So illegal on so many levels. This man is a monster.
I think Maggie saw at least the second shotgun blast to her son and yes she was crawling to get away from shooter.
A snake is a snake can't stomach looking at his fakeness. He cries when he thinks of spending his life in prison.
I wonder if he spoke to them at all ? I had not thought of last words . 😢
He didn't kill them...end of story. Funny the ONLY person they are asking about voices is the housekeeper.. you nuts can't follow the law or facts, hope and pray to GOD people like you don't get on Jury's.
Damn but that was brutal. How in the world could a parent kill his own child like that? I will never understand. There is no amount of money that could make me hurt my child. There is no amount of prison time that could make me hurt my child. I would give my life for my son !!!!!
Same! It's hard to believe anyone could put Greed, Power, local fame/reputation, over their own family. It's incomprehensible
I don't have kids, but I couldn't hurt my dog like that!!
Maybe drugs ruined his brain or hes a psychopath
Most of us would. His family need to stop bullshitting and accept his guilt and then he might
Never underestimate a narcissist desire to not pay for the crimes they do. They are always more important than anyone else.
I told my daughter to make this accomplished pathologist her role model when she begins her med studies.
Can you imagine a complete stranger explaining how a person killed someone, and that person having to sit there and realize "damn she's good." Science is incredible
It must feel surreal to have murdered your wife & child, only to later have a skilled, seasoned pathologist describe exactly how you murdered them, detailing the graphic wounds, type weapon, and even the angle of firearm you used, all while sitting in court with a camera focused on your facial reactions.
His fake crying n fake sad emotions is dispicable!!
I mean he could be saying man I done them bad !
@@justchillin6117 have listened to tht over and over and he DID SAY "I DID THEM SO BAD"!!!!!!!!!
@@melissadesaire1989 one sick individual!! Melissa did you see what this father just did to his 3 baby boys in Ohio ? It’s just breaks your heart!!!
I can’t fathom the amount of pain these two felt before they passed away. This man is the definition of evil. His own wife and child, I just don’t understand. 😔
Paul had to of known the killer (Alex). His arms were at his sides when the gun was fired. It was at close range. You would think his arms would be up to protect himself. So you darn well know Paul was relaxed around his Dad. Alex looks mad sitting there. I think Alex is a psychopath.
They probably were having words and he pulled the shotgun and was threatening him, because they are gun owners and used to guns he thought it was one of those days. That also explains why Maggie was a bit far from her child. To rip a person’s child in front of them you have to bind her to execute her baby and get no reaction.
He didn't kill his family. smdh
@@nunya2954 if a man can fake a suicide to enable ‘his child claim 10m insurance’ (which I think wasn’t just from the goodness of his heart but to distract from his financial crimes and get his only surviving child’s trust and sympathy), trust and believe me he can be more despicable than that.
I think he wants to kill the pathologist to shut her up!
@@newt1834he can steal and lie and cheat victims, children, the disabled, the poor, the dead all
of which were his CLIENTS he took an oath to serve, but he draws the line morally at murder 😅 we’re acting like people don’t kill their spouses and children all over America. But he’s wealthy soooo…
Easily the best expert to testify in this trial so far. Its comforting to know that someone who is so caring performed the autopsies
If I heard all this info about my family, I would be in tears and crying uncontrollably. Alex has ZERO emotions. He is TRYING to cry, but NEVER sheds a tear. What a monster!!
She's one of the best pathologists, coroners whatever, I have ever seen
I sure would not want her job. She is very easy to understand and I appreciate her dedication to her profession. I know it must be unpleasant but it is necessary and she is very thorough.
She was easier to follow than DNA expert and the lady attorney who was presenting that portion of the case.
it takes a special kind of person to do this type of work.
@@blueskygal255 So true. I couldn't do her line of work.
@@MillennialGrandma Well at least nobody talks back. Gallows humor. No, this is horrible & so tragic for this family & community & Nation really.
Excellent presentation. Her descriptions were on point like You were actually there at the crime. Brilliant and smart lady.
Not only is he physically revolting to look at, but his soul is worse
I could be absolutely wrong, but I haven’t seen any actual tears coming from AM. He has all of the visual mannerisms, but no actual tears?
sociopath
Not one measly tear
Nope are 100% correct in my opinion! On day one he managed to get a great photo of one bigol teardrop...
That's the last time I remember seeing anything approaching tears...
in my opinion
Why would a brother, young man, want to sit in court hearing how his mother and brother were shot multiple times? Problems ahead.
There is something not right about the brother, I’ve felt this way from the beginning of this trial. He’s extremely odd to me , i sense something very wrong about him. I’ve watched his reactions and mannerisms and there is something very odd about him.
Because he maybe the second shooter? 🤔
My ay it’s the trauma of knowing in detail what happens and has to be by his father side no matter what he probably want to be away from him as well and the father is very controlling as we all know.
@@laurithompson6621 I agree, something is off with him……… at certain points he’s smiling
It seems that this family is very different to normal people. I would be in the hallway throwing up like crazy!
May the souls of Maggie and Paul Murdaugh Rest In Peace. 🙏🏽🌹🙏🏽🌹🙏🏽
This pathologist lady is so explicit; she is brilliant, and speaks with such energy and clarity.
Pathologist has quite the medical background very impressive!!
The pathologist is fascinating. Almost like we are there with her as she recreates what happened. AM on the other hand, is literally reliving this event and it’s written all over his face. It’s just oozing out.
What I found fascinating with this pathologist's report was that you could picture what was happening at the time of the shootings. What broke my heart was that his son was looking at his killer when the final shot was taken. What better way to stop a 30 million-dollar lawsuit then to kill your son.
@@kathleengowarty2742 yes she really pieced it together for us. A real man, a real human, would just take their lumps in life, not take the life of their own family. He has lived under his facade of being a Murdaugh and a lawyer for so long and he is so far moved from reality that he probably thinks this is all normal sense making stuff. I see how nice all of the people in his life are and they all say he was like family. He manipulates everyone right from the start and that’s who they think he is, no matter what he does after. It’s like being in an abusive relationship. The people still see him as the person that swept them off their feet and they have a hard time believing that this person would do any wrong. Even with everything he’s done, and all the scams he’s pulled, there will still be some people that believe in him because they can’t get past their first impression.
Hearing the son's brain was transported in a separate bucket took my breath away. To me his father didn't seem upset to hear how they died blow by blow. But I realized it's been awhile and maybe it helps his composure. Had it been my family I couldn't ever be composed, they were shot like a bunch of animals would attack.
I gasped upon hearing about the separate transport of the brain as well.
Amazing highly qualified Dr. She's got a amazing CV. After all those bodies and she's still human with compassion.
Conclusion, Paul made eye contact with his killer.
His own dad ! I hope that one day when all these trials are over and Alex is locked in prison , he Is haunted by what he has done to his son and wife .
This woman knows her stuff...for sure
It’s so obvious to me the killer is sitting in this courtroom listening to the testimony!
Impressive woman in general. Explains things in a concise and basic way for everyday people who know nothing about her job or the events that happen to cause a wound/death in the human body, without any 'superior to you' way some highly educated people sometimes show others. People who offer testimony in this way are valuable as far as making things easy to follow for the jury who are generally everyday people who know little about technical side of things.
I would give my LIFE for my family ESPECIALLY my children. I can NOT understand how a parent & spouse could do this. As horrific as the pictures are, I’m GLAD Alex HAS to see them. I hope he relives what he did to his child and wife EVERYDAY and PRAY that it haunts him! 🤬🤬🤬
Exactly! The blubbering he does while sitting there is just infuriating. What a POS💩
They gave their lives to **you.** You sentenced them to suffering and death. You did that to them. For your own happiness.
He is picturing the crime to make himself cry. Not helping that he knows the coroner is eerily close to what actually happened.
Yes, that’s the feeling I get. I think he planned to make it look like a murder suicide but Paul kept walking. Alex fell back and the saw his sons brain blown out and it truly traumatized him. He pictures this to make himself distraught. Also, That’s why their guns were used., bc it wouldn’t be a murder/suicide if it was not their own guns. He wanted it to look like Paul killed Maggie, and then himself.
Did anybody notice how he was trying to make himself appear to be flustered and upset but forcing it
I think it is genuine remorse .. I believe he loved his family but lost control …. Guilty of murder .
Yes I noticed that. He’s just reliving it all. None of this is new to him so it’s not shocking or jarring like it is for people who are seeing it for the first time
Man! You'd have to be one cold hearted SOB to do that to another human being, let alone your own family! 😥
Greedy. Paul and Maggie would have cost him ALOT of money.
Even more so to kill your own off spring and life partner
Applauded! this individual is a professor in her field of expertise. Bravo for the gift you give others in this detailed work, imo a calling. Your academia, knowledge, experience you share is an enormous contribution to humanity. In the field of sciences, forensics, and expert witness. This is for sure one your best contributions to teachings on all levels from student, professionals, and all people to understand the enormous gravity this field contains. Thank You
Alex must be thinking I shouldn't have done that to my family, but I didn't think I'd get caught. Looks like he's gonna puke. I'm hoping he doesn't somehow get away with murder.
He is wiping his eyes but, there are no tears. This pathologist is awesome! This is so very sad! I am so sorry for Maggie's family and for Buster.
He is quite red
From 39:58 to 40:20 hes in deep contemplation, pondering, guilt, anger hard to tell whats going through his head
What an extraordinary doctor. Her presentation was wonderfully executed. She kept her tone up so that she did not devastate the audience. Excellent I hope she becomes a commentator for a news net work. Thank you Dr.
I wonder what it'll be like, listening to the coroner on the stand in the Bryan Kohberger case. I've heard she overstepped her boundaries in speaking to the injuries sustained in the four murders in ID. I don't even know why a coroner would speak publicly about any findings before they are on the stand & testifying. It seems like grandstanding to me.
I'd be vomiting if I was subjected to this horrific presentation about my child. I don't know how anyone could.bear it.
I believe Alex intended to shoot Paul's chest area, but hit his head. "I done him real, real bad."
Does anyone wonder if the AM might have given the chicken to the dog as a distraction for Maggie and Paul? Chickens make lots of noise when they are being chased or caught. It was dark. Chickens are roosting at night in their cages. Chicken was already dead. Stored somewhere and given to the dog as a distraction for Maggie and Paul while AM was reaching for his weapons arsenal. Or given AM the excuse to be carrying a gun in Maggies and Pauls presence.
I keep wondering... His holding a gun ,right, so the time his pointing it at Paul were was Maggie? I mean what was she doing... Because it was two different weapons
What an extraordinary and well-described order of events. Usually. I get lost and bored but she made this very interesting and realistic with a kind way of explaining these horrible injuries. Amazing.
As much as I typically HATE when ppl comment of a persons behavior in a traumatic situation, someone should let Alex know we can all tell he's full of Shyt!!!
Man this is gruesome. If it was my brother I would storm the gates of hell to get justice.
The mothers death is a deep deep blow too. How terrible for all. Maggie seemed like a sweet person who lived for her kids.
"Justice?" meaning revenge?
I sat through a trial of the death of an infant. The coroner was very similar. Concise, respectful but very direct. The image of the baby’s body was shown on a huge screen on the wall of the courtroom. Very startling. The pathologist used a laser pointer to direct our eyes to areas she wanted us to take note. It’s many years later and I can still see that baby clearly.
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The death, but especially the murder of a child, is the worst of all....they haven't even had a chance to live yet. 😓
same. it's was a random shooting that killed a 6yr old girl in my hometown. that was the first time I ever sat in a courtroom or anything of the sort. it changed me. I absolutely get excited almost when I'm selected for jury service.
Poor Maggie knew what what happening to her and her son. That kill shot to the back of her head shows the viciousness of AM.
It is good to know that this exceptionally talented woman is responsible for teaching the next generation of pathologists. I know it has been said many, many times, but she gave the best testimony I have ever heard on this difficult subject. She handled it with dignity and compassion and spoke to the jury, not at them or over their heads. Brilliant.
Excellent witness. Like the SLED agent who testified about the blood evidence testing, she possesses so much highly specialized and technical knowledge. But unlike the blood evidence witness, this physician is an excellent teacher, explainer, interpreter.
Wow!! She is absolutely fantastic!! I could listen to her all day!!
I know me too
✅️
Captivating!!
If I had a choice to have someone speak for me after being murdered, it would be her. Thank God these victims were blessed to have her on their side.
She was well spoken. Even though what she had to say was rough to hear, she said it clearly and connected it to the reality. (I felt like some other scientist who just read reports didn’t connect well enough to be understood.)
This is very damning evidence. The pathologist did a good job of explaining her findings to the jury.
Yes and Alex got to relive it again through the photos and her evidence. Both Paul and Maggie appear to have sustained the same type of strange shooting style...where I am reminded by the gun specialist stating that they were being shot from the hip. Almost like shooting with an element of surprise to the victims. Only time at around 1:13:00 and just a bit before where Alex is now shaking his head instead of the usual nodding, indicative I think of revisiting the stupidity of what he had done to his wife.
Damning to whom? It doesn't in anyway point to the accused. It indicates how the bullets entered the body and the damage it caused relating to injurious death. I am not defending AM, but this explains injuries that could have been caused by any shooter.
I agree. Sure seems to be personal and not so much of an execution or “hit”
I'm still having trouble with motive from Alex. The more this trial goes on, the more I think it was related to the boating accident and the death of the young woman. I'm starting to think Paul was the target and it was very personal.
@@kazzamite speculation
Pathologist what a teacher excellent. God Bless her❤
This lady knows her stuff and very knowledgeable!
This was extremely interesting and very clear to understand, I could have listened to this Doctor for hours. Her students are lucky to have her as their teacher, they will be phenomenal in their careers just from her knowledge and years of experience. I hope they know how lucky they are and honour her in their futures.
Does anyone know if Maggie's family is in court? I cannot imagine listening to this about my daughter.
I remembered hearing in the beginning, that they were not there. I think the assumption was, they wanted to withhold opinions regarding Alex, until they heard the evidence for themselves. But, I have no idea if thats true. I think the problem most ppl are having is understanding these ppl. Are so use to attrys bending or breaking truth that they simply don't take the evidence as anything factual until its proven by some means they can't ignore.. lol if that makes sense..
@@jcarroll135 Good for them. He didn't kill them, no way, no evidence, all circumstantial, no FACTS. These Cops were lazy and Alex is the scapegoat. Them good ole boys..
Alex would have been better served if he had pleaded guilty and avoided this exposure of his complete disregard for human life…even the ones who helped him hold his own life together! Alex treated his wife and son no better than if they were wild hogs loose on his property! I think he will have great difficulty charming his way ahead…wherever he ends up!
Completely agree.
He didn't KILL them, so why in the h/e/ll would he plead guilty. You people are cray cray
@@nunya2954 I base my opinion on the facts so far…feelings aren’t facts, they originate from emotions.
I think alex is re-hearing his victims moan and holler in pain and disbelief as he shoots them and he realizes that he will never be free because those memories will be in his head until he dies.
Excellent testimony and relation of facts by the pathologist, Dr. Riemer. Very professional and clear cut.
What an amazing professional pathologist. She's used to educate as well and is doing a good job to explain the things to the jury. ❤️
To have such a renowned intelligent, educated at Columbia, credentialed , experienced doctor and professor is really something- then to top it off, she is relatable and so respectful and down to earth and humble and I can’t say enough good about her. It’s wonderful that MUSC has her!!
I wonder how the defense plans to approach her. Must wait ‘ til Monday.
This woman was a great expert witness. Those photos must be really, really rough & she knows it. Some people would try to sensationalize the pictures for the drama, but she gets through her analysis with layman's terms, professionalism, & an understanding that there's no need to embellish her testimony at all.
Alex attorney is wandering around the courthouse, where the pathologist is trying to explain things like he belongs in a nursing home. What the hell is wrong with him?
This pathologists consideration,empathy, and care to everyone in that courtroom is remarkable. She chose her words wisely and carefully as not to offend others ,with the coldness of the hard facts. I see she doesn't wear a wedding ring. I bet this profession is hard on a relationship.
Regarding wedding ring and relationship status. Someone commented that they knew her and they were surprised she is in pathology since her past suggests she did lots of sex.
We’re you implying that you were one of her contemporaries. Perhaps sewing your wild oats together.
I was a dentist and stopped wearing my ring , as with the frequent washing hands and glove changes my finger had a rash under the ring . 46 years marriage and I do not wear my ring . She may well be the same .
@@tricknelius what's up with you ?
@@rebeccasikorski4942 I’m good what up
This witness knows her stuff! Thank you for your expert and understandable testimony doctor. Thank you for respecting Paul and Maggie in your testimony by using their names.
Dr. Riemer is absolutely AMAZING ! Her method of explaining the trauma in Layman's terms to the jury was STELLAR !
An excellent explanation of her work. Wonderfull Dr. E. Riemer. Thank you so much for the detailed explanations so that even normal citizens could follow you so easily. What a magnificent professional Dr. Riemer is. God bless you helping the victims.