Doctor who performed John O'Keefe's autopsy testifies at Karen Read murder trial
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
- DISCRETION ADVISED: Some testimony may be graphic.
Testimony resumes at the Karen Read murder trial. The morning session focused on voice and text messages.
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It sounds like he suffered a terrible death. The Canton police should have requested a warrant to inspect that house in order to rule out foul play. The fact that they didn't was either gross negligence or gross corruption. Either way, I wouldn't feel safe living in Canton. Rest in peace John O'Keefe.
Exactly!! If they truly felt their fellow officers were innocent they would have done the work to be sure and prove their innocence. But they know they r guilty.
Officer O’Keefe didn’t make it into the house ! My guess is he slipped hitting his head on something and she inadvertently hit him with her SUV. There’s too much forensic evidence on her SUV, the fighting they were doing and her voicemails she left after are a huge testament to why he also froze to death. Read knew exactly where his body was as soon as the past the line of trees. None else with her could see anything in relation to her saying John is over there. He was already covered with about 6 inches of snow. She sent messages saying she was going home, than one saying she was home, than left messages on his voicemail saying she hated him, called him a pervert several times, and called his young niece and nephew very bad words. She stated she went to sleep at his house for several hours than woke up at 5am, when she was sending text messages throughout that whole time.
Putting the defense theory aside, I see no more evidence that she hit him than that he just slipped and fell. What if anything convinces you that there was a point of impact on his body where he was struck with a vehicle?
@@Sherry-hk2vsPicture driving to the house and NOT notice a body laying in the front yard, especially if you’re out looking for him. Look at you own front yard, you wouldn’t notice a body on your lawn? LOL Come on. Of course she was frantic, John never stayed out all night, she was assuming he was out with another woman while she’s home with his kids. Yes, she was pissed and got more panicked when he didn’t respond to any of her calls. I can’t ignore all the shadiness collectively amongst these witnesses, something is just not right
@@bowwow7505 the first evidence and science related to this case are indisputable , as well as her own statements, it wasn’t till a few hours after his body was found, she was on a psych hold at the hospital for telling her parents she was going to kill herself, that she realized she was going to spend the rest of her life in prison for what she did, that she concocted this big lie to blame it on the people in the house. He attorneys aren’t even cross examining the medical examiners. You need to stop blaming innocent people , I don’t think she intended that to kill him, but she did hit him with her car and left. I hope they let the the accident reconstruction isn’t that were hired by the doj/ fbi. Testify after the medical examiner
Nothing goes above science !! Great presentation, doc!! 👏
Very intelligent indeed
Too bad we won't know though. No DNA, no crime scene photos, no evidence, no one in the house was questioned, the basement was cleared out and cleaned, everybody at that house knows nothing, the dog is in another state, and now the house is sold. This case needs to be reopened as far as evidence and dive deep. Someone is being paid here, and the judge needs to go.
@@myreasonforlife.9511evidence was probably submitted with photos but was not chosen at this portion to be shown to illustrate anything. DNA swabs are taken but if no additional sources like blood or semen or saliva or hairs then it’s just contact and not pointed out as it indicates nothing indicative of any additional inference that can be drawn… I haven’t seen the entire testimony yet …this just 101 medical terms.
“Doctor, name the last time you saw a car hit a person and they end up with dog bites, no injuries below the neck, a face clearly punched with two black eyes, etc. when have you seen that?”
“They’ve gone through everything but my sock drawer, but they won’t go through Brian Albert’s front door"!
- Karen Read
1000% facts
Exactly! If the loser albert and his loser drinking guests were non cop civilians these same cops would have knock down the door, dragged them into the livingroom, ordered them to explain what happened and went over the house, basement and garage with a fine tooth comb! Also, they would have had every guest at that party down at the station for long interviews!
Why would anyone of left a body in their yard of someone they had killed. This is asinine.
@jfk32975 so that's the basis of your argument? 😂😂😂😂WHAT A JOKE!! Wow, i should hire you to be my lawyer
Because it wasn't a pre meditative crime. The scene seemed rushed
I feel so sad everytime I see John's bro He looks so hurt and confused
I find he looks very angry and not close to his wife.
I agree
@@laurelmiller2550agree here too
Definitely need to have an open mind and also realise the Albert's, Mc Cabe and Higgins weren't his brother's friends
I’ve never heard what O’Keefe’s family believe. Do they really believe Karen Read murdered him? I’d love to know their thoughts on this. Their true, honest thoughts.
This man was beaten
By who? The people in the house said he never came in!
@@kisha1682 You believe them of course they were going to say john was not in that house . There Guily 💯
@@mariagutierrez4721 you need to watch the 3 interviews Karen read did with 3 different. News agencies, she tells different accounts of what havpprned. Her defense team never brings up any of the things READ said in her interviews, nor do the have READ testify. She was innebreated that Friday night she drove drunk off her mind with o’keefe in her vehicle and was arguing with him because he wanted to go to the get together at the house and she didn’t . They had been fighting a lot in the weeks leading up to this night, their relationship was at its end, Karen Read was very insecure and jealous or him, and anyone he had been involved with previously. I believe John o’keefe after arguing for about 20 minutes in her SUV, he got out closed the door , Read said and was said by witness that she attempted a K turn , I believe READ either hit him or clipped him on his right side , breaking the tail light and the bar glass , thus causing the injuries to his right eye , right arm, and sent him into the yard, losing his shoe upon impact I believe the injury to the back of his head came when he landed in the yard, if you notice in pictures once spring arrived the snow was gone. There was a large flower bed that was outlined with rocks that enveloped the flag pole, even though the flowers were dead in the winter, John O’Keefe could have smashed his head on one of those larger rocks or stones. READ drove away still totally drunk, leaving messages for him that she drove back to her house, than twenty minutes later is sending messages from his house saying she was at his house telling him she hated him, the next several messages she calls him a pervert and calls the young kids he’s been taking care of extreamly vile names, READ claimed she fell asleep for a few hours. No she didn’t she making phone calls all kinds of people during those 3 hours, including calling her parents, when she realized how drunk she was and what she had done to John. She threatened her parents she was going to commit suicide. READ waited to call for help until she knew she was not considered drunk anymore. But Made comments to people that helped her look that she was S completely drunk the night before and didn’t remember anything.
So it sounds like he was be hit repeatedly sounds like he got beat
Can't wait for Jackson to ask ME how much glass or plastic did you find in the scratches on his arm if any?
Unless they don’t cross examine, like the did with the forensic pathologist! Bunch of wimps when they know people are highly educated and skilled they won’t ask them one question !
@@Sherry-hk2vsI mean there’s nothing to argue with facts. The things they were saying don’t prove or negate either side. They are saving their time for better use later rather than asking questions they don’t need to ask. What would you have asked the pathologist?
@@elizabethedwards4686 before when they do autopsy, as they did with John O’Keefe. They take life sustaining organs out of the body and examine them, that’s why
@@elizabethedwards4686maybe you should research what a forensic pathologist does in an autopsy setting, you will understand the role they play…
Chief examiner showing up to court with tats exposed and like she's going to a BBQ...
Her tats mean nothing when hat women spent atleast 20 years of her life getting the education (knowledge) she has to be a highly qualified forensic pathologist.
@@Sweetpea064 That’s what happens when you’ve worked all hours of the day and night. When she’s asked questions she responds properly checking her notes. Funny Read is the one who caused her boyfriends death, yet you people keep faulting everyone they put on the stand to testify, including those who spent 20+ years educating themselves to be highly educated qualified to testify in his case
@@Sherry-hk2vs Just curious, have you ever met any of those people?
@@Sherry-hk2vs It doesn’t mean that she isn’t qualified but people judge other based on appearance. It’s just human nature. If it’s an older jury, she may lose credibility whether you think she should or shouldn’t be judged by that. It’s reality.
@@Sherry-hk2vs After all that you have seen in this case, you actually think Karen hit John OKeefe with her car. Come on Sherry that theory that Trooper Paul put together is so ridiculous and he used digital evidence to say it happened at 12:45. She was at Johns emailing him @12:36 according to Trooper Guarino and walking in John's house @ 12:41 according to Sgt. DICICCO. They couldnt even present a good cover up, because it's too much to cover.
Truly sickening and sad!!!
Since there was a party with a lot of people and the dog wasn't people friendly the dog was in the basement. I believe that people are hanging out in the basement and an altercation took place, maybe perhaps John approached footlong hot dog about bothering Karen. Is it Colin and somebody else had to be involved there was definitely a fist fight, since the dog was down there and confused he definitely chimed in and attacked his arm. They waited till some of the house cleared out and put him out to the curb on the lawn. That's my opinion and what I feel. You can't get any lower than this, and you can't hide from science nor the professionals behind it.
God bless you John. 🤍🕊️🤍
He never entered the house, Sherlock
This was so educational for me
Me too but I have to admit I'm not a medical type of person I had to fast forward when she started talking about how they preserve the brain for study. I just don't want to know.
What happens if Karen Reed is acquitted? Will the investigation continue? Will we ever find out what happened to John okeefe?
Nope, the prosecution will be like “we know who did it, the jury felt differently, can’t win them all”. The McAlbert clan gets away. Remember, it would have to be the prosecution that would have to press charges on the McAlberts. What’s the chances that happens. The only hope would be the fbi finds/found new evidence that they are keeping hush hush like J.O’K DNA in the Alberts house.
She thinks this is going to wrap up next week? The defense hasn't even started
Remember the poor Trooper Paul said @ 12:45 Karen backed up 60 ft. Going 24 mi. Per hour and hit John. She wasnt even there, Sgt Dicicco said the ring video showed she walked in johns door @12:41.
RUBBISH😂
@@jeanettecoleman-mz7ie How is evidence Rubbish? When you try to cover up the truth, if everyone isn't in it, there will be mistakes and they sure made them. Like a bunch of fools!
I wish that.
Discrepancy had been brought up in closing argument
@@josephinerodrigues586 No packed tired tracks. No one came out side even when there was a bunch of loud activity and flashing lights. Everything wrapped up in a matter of hours. A man died before 6 AM, if you drove by that house at 7, you wouldn’t have even known that had happened.
I’ve always wondered what possesses someone to want to become a medical examiner . That’s the last job I would want to have!!!
So morbid and depressing.
It's so personal and intrusive. I know we need these doctors, but that was OJO's mind. 🙏
You have to be called to that area😁
They REALLY need Dr. G.....she's a forensic pathology tiger...
The poor jurors are like hostages
Why would they be asking a medical examiner about crime scene evidence? Did the snow have drag marks in it after 6 hours of blizzard snow?😂😂
Because the victim could have evidence of the crimes against them on their bodies. Example of such evidence might be a shard of red or clear plastic from the tail light in one of his arm wounds or even the gash in the back of his head .
Those wounds are from being beat, play the office lacerations on the arm is from the dog.!!
she showed up to testify without the toxicology report??
I don’t have any medical background, but I have common sense. It doesn’t seem likely that there is no injuries to Mr okeefes legs knees or hips. You’re going to see some injuries where the point of impact was. That would have to be the hip and lower body. John okeefe is over 6 feet tall.
He may have fallen down to his knees before being hit by the car
@@kisha1682 Bingo
Karen is innocent! How can the real killers be able to live with 14:26 themselves! Don't they know they are going to meet their maker one day!
Who are the killers? Whose going to be wandering out in a blizzard?
So the examiner probably has not examined a guy beat up or hit by a car, I guess, but she can't say that a car hit him then, this nothing but frame job,who would've the upper hand in this case cop's not Karen
How u know?
@@kisha1682 which one
I feel so bad for John's family 😢his brother and mother having to relive all of this is a nightmare especially not truly knowing what happened its so sad 😞
Im completely confused why all these "great friends " let there poor friend freeze to death terrible crew.
Excellent evidence to the jury and description of the facts. Great Pathologist.
The first attorney is trying to bore the juror with anatomy if you’re not into studying biology it will just go right over your head. The main question is was the injury done by a car or a fist.
John O;Keefe was punched and beat to death or close to death which the cold environment finished him off!
🥲🥲🥲🥲 are the alberts in the court room if so I don’t know how they can live with what they’ve done but god saw this breaks my heart I pray they get the answers of who exactly did this and why. RIP officer okeefe I am so sorry for his family 😢❤
cmon! who shows up at court like that?
Is the Sloth still calling Witnesses?
😂😂
He is Lally-gagging. Ha ha (dad joke)
Come on people those are contusions on her left arm with colored blood vessel hemorrhaging and is starting to migrate splotch on her right arm...with eyelashes as appendages to her eyelids 😊 I am just being factious she is actually a highly intelligent educated professional that never had time to learn how to dress in a classy professional fashion. I am a retired firefighter/paramedic/registered nurse, that worked the streets and ER trauma nursing for over 30 years. I have 5 college degrees with an associates in fire science and masters in science nursing and will say she knows her stuff!!!
Oh look at the doctors tattoo sleeve……smh…..she should’ve worn a blazer or sweater!!!!!!!
She was trying to show off her tattoos. 🙄
I didn't know Doctor Who performed autopsies. He must have allot of time on his hands.
Sorry, But there is no way he was killed by that car. Injuries were totally inconsistent with being hit by a car and driving a car backwards at 24 mph is virtually uncontrollable in normal circumstances, let alone on a snowy night. Then add that 2 State Police officers found pieces of the rear taillight 2 days later at the crime scene, is not only suspect but is criminal. The video shows that car arriving in police custody at the Police Station Sally Port with it's right rear tailight INTACT.
Her desire to prioritize looking good on a televised event, shows where her priorities are. She should be dressed more appropriately for the setting.
All the respect to her education and expertise. However, her parents must have forgotten to teach her etiquette and professionalism. She looks like she is going on spring break. It's court, not a cruise ship There is the right time and place for everything. Basic manners and sophistication.
Do not judge the book by its cover....get it?
Not sure about this Judge! She seems to be very biased towards the police
Does she think people will take her seriously? Seriously? Poor John. Where is Dr. Cyril Wecht when you need him?!
Casual_ Professional
She’s a doctor all tatted up she is not dressed for court!!!!!!!
Sorry there are some things that go way above science that you have not experienced 111
And this is why im not a doctor… these medical terms make no sense and way to long to spell
So obviosly she was sending angry emails from the garage at Johns house @12:36 and walked in the house @ 12:41.
Did u actually say something about cooler weather,? Lololol
She was drunk hit him , looked didn't see him, thought he walked away. Went home, sobered up and realized what she did when she was drunk.IMO.
Sounds simple , does that explain the shady investigation? They were all drunk, even the cops, which is why no one has a Reasonable explanation
How come know one saw him pretty hard not to miss you know
In the snow lying there
She is guilty !
Another jealous female
Your kidding ain't ya
Go an watch trolls you know cartoon
Bwaahaha...you are hilariously delusional
😂😂😂 Doctor Who Testifies... 😂😂😂
When the medical examiner is lying she gets very nervous, and looks around and says um um um…..
I found her very credible, articulate and intelligent. Didn't look like she was lying at all.
Omg lol
Why would she lie though? What benefit would she get out of that? She is on the stand. Have you ever testified on a case and observed your body language? Probally not. Neither have I. Why can't people just pay attention to the testimony? The comments I hear about people concluding, about tattoos, eyes looking at someone, body language. These are all conclusions we make and not factual other than your opinion & mine. This not an episode of L&O.
She wasn't lying at all- as a matter of fact, she literally sounds pro defence
LYING? Prove it.
Um um um um …um …um !
She is guilty -here come the trolls 😂😂
Says the troll commenting about nonexistent trolls because she is in fact the actual troll.
Your comment makes zero sense, troll.
Hello 👋
BS
This troll says watch the video proving taillight was intact at 5 a.m.
@@ecalose6785 guilty and toxic, just like yourself
why does this woman talk in a craggy voice?
This is an Italian accent I think ❤
All injuries on right side she is so guilty drunk pissed off and backed over him
Except she didnt.Her taillight is intact at 5am that morning he was hit inside that home and I think Colin is involved!
@@ecalose6785run Colin run,
@@bowwow7505 Eventually an @$$hole like the ultra dumb Colin will be running, he is that stupid, but then again its expected with an uncle like Brian. From Proctor on down, some of the dumbest people to grace the Courts..
OMG, aren't you a nasty, & Incorrect individual!👹
@@ecalose6785everyone keeps saying the tail light was intact at 5 am. If that was true, this case would never have been brought. The prosecutor would not assume any potential juror would be that stupid to not notice that.
She is guilty, he was hit by a vehicle. So sad.
That is a DOG BITE and DOG SCRATCHES! WHERE IS CHLOE??? HE was beaten up in the house and dragged outside like a piece of trash! Where are the 3 pints of blood....in the Albert house, oh that is right, they ripped up the rug and the floor too!!!
@@debraronan8389 Why dump his body on your own lawn? They know where Chloe is. It was told early in the trial where they re-homed the dog. His body was thrown about 30 feet from hit and I think the arm injuries are from landing and hitting the pavement.
@@logan197777 Why would you re-home a dog after 7 years? He was beaten up by Brian and Colin! Higgins has some involvement too! Why did jenn and Matt keep looking out the window and door? John was probably knocked out at that point and they were making sure Karen didn't come knocking at the door looking for John! CORRUPTION AT ITS FINEST!
@@logan197777then get her dna and impression of her teeth and prove it wasnt the dog! What is so hard about that unless they have something to hide 🤷
@@logan197777 That's my thought. You kill someone and then leave them on your front lawn so no one will ever know you committed this crime? Also you work in law enforcement and you are skilled on this stuff. Come on people!. things don't make sense but he was not in that home. I don't know what happened outside and probably we will never know..
No guilty
Even tho video shows an inract taillight at 5 am,
Reads goose is cooked !
Another jealous female
Your the goose ya troll
Come on say something I dare you
Oh oh 😳 i think she could be screwed
I think you need to clean your ears and listen to this testimony clearly
@@pistolpete8231 they hear what they want.
The defence team looked hard for a "doctor" who could tell that the victim was beaten and seed doubt. That is all that the defence knows. SO, they found the doctor "so", because she is SO unprepared and SO unprofessional. Not because she dressed like going to a lake party hoping to find a man to marry, or for having a skull tattoo to advertise death, but for drawing false conclusions. As false as her huge curled eyelashes. It is not irrelevant how you dress or how artificial you want to look. It speaks volumes about you, your character, and your self-esteem. SO it is obvious that nobody looked at her to take her out on a date, but you don't use a court for that. For the trolls that want to jump in, yes, I listened to everything she said and understood all the medical terms she used. The conclusion is the same. The "doctor" wanted attention because her life was empty. SO she accepted the money for her "expert" deposition although she has very limited credibility. SO my conclusion is that Karen Read will pay for what she did, despite her defence trying hard to stage a smoke and mirrors cheap show. Enjoy.
Lmao calm down big guy that’s not the defenses witness 🤣
@@elizabethedwards4686 LOL 😅 Your reply was funnee and true 😂
Wrong, & your life must be empty!!
@@jeanettecoleman-mz7ie You must be a control freak. I pity your husband or boyfriend.
@@jeanettecoleman-mz7ie Your life is a mess, control freak. You see? I can be nasty too. Enjoy. I have plenty more to come for you if you don't behave.
can't stand that incompetent biased judge
Omg that “ doctor “ in the green dress with the tattoos and false eyelashes? Who dresses like that in court??? Very unprofessional and disrespectful. 🤦♀️
People that have tattoos, false eyelashes and like the colour green.
I thought she did a great job. Very smart and detailed. Very impressive she’s convinced me
@@westbeach400convinced you of what?
I wondered about the K on her arm and other bruises. By now, any witness should expect they're on international TV so this was her 15 min.
@@westbeach400exactly !! What’s with these ppl judging her on appearances …so irrelevant!
Old Thug Judge 😊
She is an embarrassment to reputable judges.
Don’t the McAlberts call her Aunt Bev?
I wish Mr Jackson spent more time crossing her on "this didn't seem to be from a significant altercation"
"Dr, can you define what you mean by 'significant altercation' in the context of head injuries?"
"Is it a specific severity or type of injury that distinguishes a 'significant' altercation from a non-significant one?"
"you testified that the head injuries could have been caused by any blunt force object, including a weapon, correct? How does that reconcile with your statement that it doesn't seem to be from a significant altercation?"
"Aren't blunt force objects, like weapons, typically associated with altercations?"
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Doctor is clearly dress extremely unprofessional and inappropriate.
That’s how a professional dresses to testify in court 🤦🏻♂️?
What is wrong how dressed. Sexist. 😮
So, that means her creditability and testimony doesn't override her appearance?
It’s 2024 gramma
She has a legally blonde thing going on. I like it, she knows her shit
My thoughts exactly. It’s embarrassing and unprofessional.
I feel so bad for his brother 😢
Sharp cookie!!!!Wow!!!!
Those fake eyelashes and garden party dress really make her difficult to watch. But prefacing everything she said with “So….” Is even more annoying.
She was brilliant… her looks or what she wore, is totally irrelevant … you probably couldn’t understand the medical terminology she was saying
I know! There is no reason to start every sentence with “so”!
So is that all you got out of this testimony?
@@melb2258 She is brilliant, but wasn't on the day she got those tattoos.
"So..." Is the "like..." of the 2010s. Yes, extremely annoying. Good call-out.
That's the ME???? WOW...cool
but.... if anyone is found dead.. in the front of someone's house... the homeowner and occupants are 1st to be questioned/suspected... is it because homeowner was also a police officer that this didn't happen, why that home wasn't searched, cameras not pulled, etc..did they test anything... you don't get 2 black eyes from being hit by a car...
Albert had a weight room one of them in back of head 😮
Agree!
John punched out & fell back onto gym equipment, Dog attacking him, what a bunch of CRIMINALS
@@jeanettecoleman-mz7ie You are literally just making sh*t up.
A medical examiner with a huge skeleton tattoo. How unprofessional.
Of all things that’s what you focused on. You are so unserious .
@@sagesmama2248Her entire look unprofessional in a place where her credibility is crucial. But at least she wasn’t nodding off like the lady that came after her.
@@sagesmama2248 She looks ridiculous!
I understand how someone could be judgmental regarding her appearance. I can also understand the relevance of her tattoo in representing her dedication to providing information on behalf of the dead.
I have to agree that she looked very unprofessional and did not dress appropriately, but this doesn’t mean she isn’t well versed in her area of expertise.
I'm trying to be impartial....but I can't imagine all of O'Keefe's injuries were due to a car backing up and hitting him...which supposedly caused the right taillight to break. It appears that he was beaten, scratched/clawed and hit with a blunt object. Also, you have to wonder what type of information/evidence did Proctor obtain from the scene and provide to the Examiner during the investigation? Was it complete and untainted? Was the Albert's dog ever checked to see if its DNA matched with the scratches on O'Keefe's arms? This would have helped to prove whether he was inside the house or not. The inside of the house was not investigated for any evidence. Lastly, was everyone interviewed within a reasonable timeframe to check for consistent stories? With all this I just have reasonable doubt.
Defense should of hired someone to recreate the DA's allegations... everyone would see that it is IMPOSSIBLE for a human body to break a brand new tail lamp and damage a structural tail lamp pocket like that!
Only a large heavy object in a "parked" position aka a parked car or moving car, could do this type of damage... no way a human body did it... they should test how much pressure is needed to recreate that damage...
She is innocent
She’s fucking guilty as sin
Love the sleeve tats, the the matching bright green nail polish and sleeveless lacy summer frock ensemble, the fake eyelashes and the sing-song voice of this consummate professional.
Wow did I read that wrong.
Doctor Who performs autopsies as well as time travel?
I'm sure he already knows who did it.
Spoilers...
Note the ever long suffering image of St Paul O'Keefe the Martyr as he sits every day, aiming his relentless, hate-filled, self-righteous stares straight at Karen Read.
You spelled Albert wrong.
False eyelashes in court……seriously
So what! I've seen much worse! Like perfume in a hospital around the ill!
@@maureengolden-gg7yc
BaaHaaHaa!!!!!
She's sitting near others wearing hair pieces and false teeth. What is the difference?
And fake eyelashes- super tacky @maureengolden-gg7yc
I mean, she can afford it. lol those look like the eyelash extensions or whatever they are called. She can’t just take them on and off every night.
Now as far as the dress, not my choice of dress to wear to a court room but at least it’s modest enough to cover any cleavage which would be completely inappropriate in court.
You guys are feeling so much love for some woman you do not know. A very spoiled rich lady. Just because you what? Hate cops?
jessica jessica😢
Thank you for saying that. I have thought the same thing, so many people here seem to hate cops. Everyone here seems to think the police officers are hiding something. You could not get police officers, firemen, paramedics, medical examiner, etc all together willing to lie to save another officer. Willing to lose their jobs to save an officer. Common sense tells you no one would be willing to jeopardize their livelihood to save an officer that some of them don’t even know.
@billiardsgirl1962
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I am curious and haven't heard anything yet when she dropped John off who was already at the Alberts home did she drop him off before they all arrived home from the bar or after, and did she just pull up in front and he got out or did she pull in the drive way or did she pull up in front across the street and he got out and then she did a u turn that's the only way I can see her not seeing him and accidently hitting him. I also wonder if coroner will say all these injuries occurred in one hit or multiple blows. Seems to much bouncing around with testimonies.
SHE meaning WHO?
Omy