EXPOSED: The Truth About Pennzoil and Quaker State (Plus A Sneak Peek At Our Next Video)
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- Опубликовано: 1 фев 2024
- Pennzoil and Quaker State make motor oils that are the same viscosity, the same specification, and they are made in the same plant. Could they actually be the same oil?
We analyzed a bottle of Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30 Synthetic and Quaker State 5W-30 Synthetic to find out. Watch as Certified Lubrication Specialist, Lake Speed Jr, reveals the findings. The results are quite interesting...
We also provide a sneak peek at an upcoming video based on the comments from this video: • EXPIRED: When Does New...
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Who is the @themotoroilgeek ? I'm a Society of Tribologists and Lubrication Engineers Certified Lubrication Specialist and Oil Monitoring Analyst (I've maintained both of those for over a decade). I also worked for Joe Gibbs Racing for 12 years as their lubricant specialist. During that time, we worked with Wix Filters (one of our sponsors) to test and develop filters for our race engines. We also worked with Lubrizol and Chevron-Phillips Chemical to test and develop oils for our race cars. Following that, I was the head of R&D for Driven Racing Oil. During that time, I formulated and tested over 50 products. We also worked with Cummins, Comp Cams, Oak Ridge National Labs and General Motors on various R&D products. Those efforts are recorded in peer reviewed white papers published by SAE International and ACS Sustainable Chemistry journals.
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Please do the history of motor oil. I'd also love to see you evaluate Big Box brands like Kirkland and Supertech. Keep on educating us. There are a lot of snake oil myths to be busted!
Kirkland, supertech, and Amazon basics are all blended by the same place
@@dalehilborn691 Warren oil. I believe they’re a blender and distributor. Not certain where their base stocks come from.
Those are low-end group 3 and don’t compare to some of the better ones when you look at the lab work from users postings.
They're fine. Any oil is better than no oil
I’d love to know about Kirkland please
A video about history of motor oil would be really nice!
Noted!
Once upon a time in the 1800’s. Yawn!
Yawn for you. Not for me or others requesting it bozo @@Michael-yi4mc
*engine
I would love to see it, motor oils have changed a lot, and Lake is the guy to do it
The best oil is by whoever changes it the most.
I agree changing oil is more important. Frequency is everything.
Agree. It's a machine. Put oil in it. Change it once in a while...and don't drive like an idiot. You'll be fine.
I never thought learning about the science of oil could be entertaining. But Lake manages to accomplish that quite easily. 👌
yes he does a great job, I learn new things on every video
A channel about one of the most hotly debated and hated subjects on internet car forums, genius! Now we just need a guy to break down the science on tires and there will be no more fights on the forums! Great work on this channel, I love it!
Tyre Reviews right here on RUclips. Amazing guy.
Lol was going say this. He does agreat job@@lazerusmfh
I can't wait for your history of motor oil video!
Yes, 9:52 is exactly what I'm say when I stupidly engage in any oil debate. Yes, I also would be interested in the history of motor oil.
Tell y'all what folks. SCHAEFFERS OIL is gonna be Right at the TOP of the HISTORY OF MOTOR OIL. They started out making some Weird stuff, and Wagon Wheel GREASE! Guarantee it'll be right at the Beginning Somewhere of the History Of Motor Oil!
Noted!
Ford Motor Oil and the Oil OIlzum use to be the best in my day.
IN the mid 1970's Smokey wrote about and tested a synthetic oil called All proof 5w-50. The article was in Popular Science magazine. He built a mild 302 Chevy and gained 20 hp and lowered oil temp by about 15 degrees. Went back to mineral oil and lost the 20 hp.
He pulled the heads between tests and checked the valves etc. I called Smokey and ordered enough oil for 2 302 Ford boat engines. My gains were similar to his. I was thrilled with the results and thrilled to speak with Smokey. When i called back to reorder for another oil change he informed me that the chemist died and his son changed the formula and he didn't like it. The oil came out of Superior, Wisconsin. Recently i read that the product became part of Royal Purple.I currently use Mobil 1 15w-50 in BBC marine engines and some hiper Chevy small block boat engines that don't always have oil coolers like the BBC. The Mobil 1 15w-50 was first marketed about 1986. Always looking for the " perfect" motor oil😂 Your information adds another level of understanding, Thanks
I remember reading about that oil in his book.
The oil cost $5.00 a quart, back in the 1970's and the 302 oil pans were oversize
and held 7-8 quarts each engine..
I changed the oil in my wife's car for years. It was only when I did the first change using Royal Purple with Synerlec (not the API certified oil) she came back and asked what did I do to the car. She said it drove better, quieter and engine felt stronger. She thought I did some kind of tune to the engine. I told her all I did was an oil change. That experience sold me on RP and I used that in my own car and the engine did feel stronger.
Polyol Ester 2 to 1...plus some PAO..!
@@mikeschlup5279 Are these chemicals
still used and marketed by which oil companies? Thanks
Amsoil ALWAYS tests the best and Pennzoil is ALWAYS a close second... Had a 2011 Mustang GT that was drag raced regularly and used Pennzoil Platinum 5w-30. Car had over 225,000 miles on it when i got rid of it... Engine had never been opened up...
Thank you Lake for all your testing, teaching, and sharing. So glad we found your channel! And yes, please do a history of motor oil for us!
Noted!
chemistry over brand , thats a great statement and i would love to learn what you have to say. THANKS FOR ALL YOUR EFFORT MR SPEED!!!!
Hey Lake Appreciate all you're work you put into making these vids! Always great info. I get excited when I see you have a new vid out. 😀 💯👍
Thank you!
I'm old enough to remember "Pennsylvania grade" motor oil base. All I would run in my performance engines: HD40 for air-cooled engines, HD30 for water-cooled engines.
Right on!
I'm in Lake. You pretty much turned me into an oil geek now.
LOL
Oh this is awesome! I use both of these oils and I’ve often wondered the differences since they are both SOPUS products. Thanks so much for taking the time to properly inform fellow oil nerds like myself! I am really looking forward to your motor oil history video!
Thanks!
This never gets old! Who would have thought oil would be this fascinating, even for us gear heads. But then again, what's more important for any mechanical device rotating 1000's of times a minute for hours at a time than healthy oil. Love that you're testing and comparing the big brand names, too!
Thanks!
Hi, I just started watching your videos and I find them very informing. Thank you!
Always nice to watch your content! Not to long, informative and some humor makes it delightful to watch. Greeting from the Netherlands
Thanks for watching!
-My thoughts on oil and related topics :
-My favorite oil is the cheapest often Costco supertech or Amazon.
- I like Penzoil ultra platinum, but only when it’s on sale
- Wix filters always.
-I’ve found that using a fumoto drainvalve and changing the oil early works wonders if you’re looking to own a car long term like 200k miles
-4k-5k in mileage is the sweet spot for changing oil within 6 months
Warren distribution stuff is low and group 3 and you’ll get more metals than Pennzoil platinum ultra, which is one of the best off shelf oils. 200,000 miles no problem with the Warren oil and wicks filter. If you want to go to 400,000 miles better use platinum ultra and Fram ultra or Amsoil filters. In some engines certain Amsoil oils perform better than platinum ultra, but you need to do analysis trending if that is the case with your application.
you must own a Subaru
I had back to back 2 wix gold filters seep on me.
Learn to install an oil filter @@Logjammer69
Wix filters are ok but they don't filter very well. Independent tests on BITOG have proven their synth filter nosedives at 20 microns, BAD.
Thank you for taking your own time to make these videos that teach us the real science. I just started watching your videos and will keep watching to learn if I am doing the right thing for my vehicles or if I have better options I should be going with.
Spent the last 15 or so years nerding out on BITOG so I am very glad content creators like you have started making videos about these subjects.
Welcome aboard!
I've been a BITOG aficionado since it started. Even though I'm now retired and driving a LOT less I still love this stuff...keep 'em coming Lake!
Thanks lake for the great topics and high end video quality. Some of my favorite videos on RUclips by far!!!
Wow, thanks!
Please keep up these great videos. You really put a different perspective out there for us and that is truly needed
Absolutely love the channel and geeking out on oil with you. Would definitely like to see an Amsoil royal purple kind of oil analysis, and would like to know what you run in the type vehicles that you have.
Through my experience in the field of oils and my review of the comparisons and videos published on the Internet, I can say that this video is the best I have seen in my life. It touched on all the topics that affect those who work in the field of manufacturing oils.
Which do you use? I drive a VW jetta..
This is definitely one of my favorite channels on RUclips! No other channel is doing what the motor oil geek is doing for us and showing us the actual science and not just repeating what the motor oil company is saying about their own oil! 👍👍👍
Wow, thank you!
It's very obvious to many of us that you're speaking the truth based on science. So I think we would all love to see an episode, or more, on the history of motor oil
I first became interested in motor oils when I bought my first brand new motorcycle in 1986. I wondered why there were car motor oils and motorcycle motor oils and wondered if I could run the cheaper of the two in my bike.
I was also told at the time to not run synthetic oil in my bike because it would make the seals shrink causing oil leaks. Low and behold, against that original piece of advice, I did and actually started to see some oil seeping out of some seals which immediately made me switch back to conventional oil.
That told me at the time there were significant differences in certain types of oils, but I'm also now aware that the additives are just as important, if not more, than what the base oil is made from.
I'm so glad I found this channel and hope to get all of my questions answered over time as I watch future and past episodes.
Thank you!
Thank you so much for all the information and the video.
I feel like @LibricationExplained does a more detailed analysis.
History of motor oil would be great, especially the landmark court case between Mobil1 and Castrol which allowed any oil (semi synthetics included) which performed like a true synthetic to be called a synthetic in the US!
Noted!
All the more reason the we need LAKE SPEED Jr.
Would be highly interested
Castrol f****d it up for everyone by imho falsely winning the court case.
I appreciate your scientific approach to analyzing these different motor oils, thanks. I would also like to see some comparison analysis of diesel engine motor oils. In particular for light and medium duty trucks. Thanks for considering.
You can do ANYTHING on motor oil and I'll watch and learn. Thats why I'm subbed.
I love your videos, I thought I knew a lot about motor oil but I'm learning even more watching your videos
Thank you!
GTL based oils are one of my favorites.
History of the oil would likely be helpful for many people. Especially an introduction of the various oil group types for some.
Why?
@@matthiasgrunwald895 in what regard are you asking why?
@@vais3he is obviously curious why you say GTL based oils are your favorite. Is it really that hard to figure out his question based on your comment? 🤦🏼♂️🤷♂️
@@supersportimpalass very open ended question to an entire statement. Yes, I will ask for clarity before conveying my message. I’m thankful you could respond for them.
Noted!
All consumers of motor oil should watch your videos. Science NOT speculation! Do not doubt for a moment the value of the research you provide to us! THANK YOU!
Thank you!
Yes thank you very much 🤙
I’m waiting for the the Amsoil test!!! I will say this I ran Amsoil 2 stroke oil in my chain saw years ago and it was like a brand new saw , I don’t cut much anymore haven’t used it since, back when I tried it it was hard to find “ early 90’s lol, you or anyone reading this I have a ford 3.5 ecoboost , I want to do what’s right , I just put a quart of Lucas in my oil change, I’m going to dump it out !!!
Yes, the history and evolution of oil from the early days to modern would be great. Please keep up the videos!
It would be very interesting to see the history of motor oil
Noted!
Would love to see a oil history video! Great information, keep em coming!
Noted!
First off, I am loving your videos Lake. They are very well done and packed with great info! I am wondering if one day you can do a video on the best way to clean the gunk out of a "new" old car with a really dirty engine? Is it best to flush it with an engine flush, keep changing with synthetic, etc? Thanks and keep the videos coming!
Great suggestion!
My Grandpa owned a filling station with a garage in the 40's to late 60's. He used to say only use Pennzoil its made from Pennsylvania crude and that's the best. I just got hooked on your channel. Thanks
Thanks for sharing!
Keep em coming Lake, just keeps getting better!
Noted!
A video on "the best oil for air cooled engines" would be really interesting. Thanks for the vids, Lake !
Are you thinking for airplanes? That's my first thought when you say air cooled.
Porsche & VW Bug
and Harleys@@felixschubert7800
I use Valvoline VR-1 straight 30wt in my VW engine. High zinc, for flat tappet engines. Really happy with how much quieter the engine is.
What a subject matter to explore! the last 25 yeas oils have gone through a major transformation, very interesting subject matter
Its amazing what goes into making these oils. I have experienced just the detergent side of it and even just that is pretty neat
Lake, I love all your videos. It's funny how many people blow off your advice, saying they don't trust random Internet dudes. They have mo clue of your knowledge and expertise. I just give up trying to teach people, and absorb as much as possible from your videos.
LOL, thank you for the kind words. I appreciate it.
@garyszewc3339
It's the "random" part that loses credibility. One needs to read what they write then determine "does it pass the 'smell test"" and does it add up? Performance beats credentials every time. Having credentials, passing the "smell test" and "speaking the truth" are the marks of a true professional.
Really enjoy your sharing of your knowledge and science based oil analysis while explaining it in simple terms to those of us with a limited chemistry back ground. I have really learned allot from your explanation as and testing. Please provide a video on the history of oil when you have the opportunity. The education you provide to us is greatly appreciated and gives me a knowledge of lubrication technology that I wasn’t aware of. Funny thing, I’ve worked for Marathon, BP, Valero’s and Exxon Mobile as a Mechanical Engineer for years , never dabbled in the Chemistry of how the product were made. very interesting….Keep up the Great Videos!
Many thanks for the kind words. Noted on the history video.
Learning something new every time I watch one of your videos. Good stuff! I would also be interested in auto manufacturer branded oils like GM, Ford etc.
Great suggestion!
Please make a video about mixing oils - different brands, different viscosity, etc. Thanks, Lake! Wishing you all the best for this channel.
Great suggestion!
@@themotoroilgeek Yeah great...then nobody knows what the heck you have concocted or it's properties.
Very interesting and informative video. I wish that Pennzoil Platinum Plus would come in 0W-16 so that I can use it in my 2023 Toyota Corolla Cross.
Yes, please do a video on the history of motor oil. Thanks for all of your videos as they are extremely informative.
BTW, love your comment about choosing oil based off "chemistry" vs brand!
Nice video. The first time I saw you speak of oil was on Stapleton 42's channel. You make something as seemingly boring as motor oil interesting! You have a great delivery, it's easy to follow along w/ you and your explanations. I look forward to the next video! I'm also interested in seeing your "history of motor oil" video too.
Thank you!
Love it, your the best. I have a Kia 2022 Sportage diesel, if Penzoil is not recommended what type if oil is best for turbo diesel motors ?
Bob is no longer the oil guy, YOU ARE. I'm glad I discovered your channel. Great info. Keep it coming.
Wow! Thank you!!!
Bob is dead and has been for some time. He was a great guy I knew him and was on bitog from the beginning. He was a Schaeffers sale rep not a chemistist or tribologist. You did not know him and are talking out your rear! The modern site is a mere shadow of what it once was. On top of that NORIA is a better place to go if you actual want to have intelligent conversations about lubrication of all kinds!
“Bob is the oil guy”. BITOG is the OG of online oil forum and advice. Truly a pioneer. He will be missed. That said, this RUclips channel is great as well. Cheers.
Yeah it's full of junk science and a heavy amount of bias on their forums and when you question them the mob jumps all over you. I left a while ago.
Does Noria have a forum to make posts? @@buckaroobonsi555
That actually blows my mind, I thought QS was a GTL based oil, thanks for setting the record straight!
It’s still damn good oil and at a great price. Their Ultimate Protection is as good as any advanced synthetic oil out there and can be had for $22 at Walmart. Just a dollar more than SuperTech or Kirkland.
For a 5,000 OCI , it just can’t be beat.
@@Nellis202as of 3/1/24, this QS Ultimate is on sale on Walmart online for $19 per 5 qt jug
The ultra endurance Quaker State might be GTL Beausoleil
@@kalani1987 Which is why I bought it and I keep my cars "forever"...26 yrs. now with my daily driver. No issues. I also ignore the time interval between changes.
Shake or no shake, first time i have ever heard that from anyone other than me to myself.
I tend to shake the oil bottle some before using in engines.
I'm just thinking i don't want to leave any of those additives stuck to the inside of the bottle.
Enjoy your videos and all the research you share.
Same here. Been changing my own oil and filter close to 50 years and I always shake the bottle first before pouring it into my engine.
Love your channel! Please do a video on history of oils 👌🏻
Noted!
history of motor oil has always fascinated me. maybe you can ever bring up ILSAC and API history too
Man. Can you just do an motor oil 101. GTL, group 3, pao, etc. what the differences are. How they’re made. What the pros and cons of each are.
That’d be a great reference! Thanks!
Great suggestion!
My first can of oil was SD. Yes interested in a bit of history on this. Thank you for your very informative and understandable videos. When I see someone ask "which oil is best" on automotive boards I send them here!
These videos have taught me more
2 hours About all oil,,,,,,, Sure helps you connect the gaps,,,, Thanks a lot means a lot of people that work and build on engines
Thanks! I appreciate the kind words.
Thank u for all u DO. I'd very much be interested in history. Oil is the heartbeat & I feel I never could learn too much.
I'm 71, live in PA & used Quakerstate in my dad's car. As I went to automotive schools, used Kendall. And the last few decades, went from Castol & now use Toyota brand oil. I haven't used PA oil since 50yrs. I ALSO, am a stickler on gasoline & buy "top tier" gasoline ONLY. 👍
Noted!
Thank you Lake! I recall in 1991 after I built a 351C engine for street a drag usage after break in I chose Torco 5W-40, the dealer provided me with brochure's on the history of the Torco brand going back to the post WWII era. They spoke of Gus Johnston, Bob Lancaster who invented the first 20W-50 racing oil in 1948 long before SAE identified this viscosity. He was racing a Ariel Square Four at El Mirage dry lake in California and he needed to find a way make the engine live through a race.
Thanks for sharing!
351C engines are great and are the king of all small blocks. Just had to say that.
Yes, I agree, and ai do miss beast, owned it 30 years. The guy I sold it to pulled the quench heads and put open chamber on it, big mistake, but yeah they can really make a lot of power.@@save16thave
Which is why Ford dumped it after about 5 years.
After 1971 they were looking for low emissions, performance was dead @@donrichter3523
Such a pleasure to listen to a fellow engineer. Having helped application engineer and sell API machinery governed by 2000 pages of enduser specs and Shell DEP specs, I can say for sure that their ultra tough project requirements tend to yield higher quality and consistency, and that Ultra certainly helped my car reach 400,000 miles. I did not know Shell owned them and the additive company until now....very interesting!!!! I consider myself fortunate to have met Shell engineers in a meeting.
Right on! Thanks for sharing!
I met Speed at a Carlisle seminar15 years ago, I believe He was working for Joe Gibbs? I asked a few questions wearing my AMSOIL hat & t-shirt? He seemed to not like me?
@@jimandnancymcoil well, once in a while our attire can set the tone....don't feel bad, I got a "go-away" reception from a competitor at the turbo show once in Houston LOL....I was just standing there minding my own business looking at their booth, wearing my employer's emblem on my shirt 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I’m glad your channel showed up in my feed today, I have been trying to learn at the available opportunities about oil for my whole career servicing equipment. Maybe someday you’ll get into gear boxes and PAG vs PAO and I will probably still be here lol. Crazy question though have you seen the Tech sheet on the Synerlec additive used in the Royal Purple brand? It seems to me that it’s very different from conventional lubricant operating mechanisms. I also think that modern engines have very good metallurgy and to accomplish what they are espousing would take many hours of operation.
I have an anecdotal story about a 95 Crown Victoria where I had RP in the transmission and the engine and at one point (8-12k miles later) the engine temperature dropped with the outside air temperature hovering about 43 degrees and that winter I couldn’t turn the cabin heater fan above 3/4 open as it would blow cold. We kept that car until 262k , original engine and transmission. Burned a quart every 4,000 miles from about 180somek miles didn’t get any worse 🤷♂️ but it make me think there is something to what RP says I just want to know the 5W’s and the H… especially the H.
We used a similar product in our rotary screw air compressors - probably no synerlec - and those compressors worked continuously for 10’s of thousands of hours on a purple (when new) oil that was a PAO based oil. So I have little doubt under the right application the PAO oils are very effective. 😀
Thanks again!
Thanks for the comment! We will get to PAGs at some point.
A video about which manufacturers make the OEM oils for Automotive companies would be helpful as well.
Great suggestion!
Yes please, Motorcraft 5w30 vs Dexos etc
@@themotoroilgeekDiesel oil video please
@vinniemorciglio4632
Realize that OEMs fill their equipment with "break-in oil". They often use a moly disulfide cam lubricant and likely other additives in larger quantities than one would want to maintain.
They also may well use a different blend for maintenance after the first oil change or two.
@@scottwhitcher265 Bullshit...none of them have ever used a "break-in" oil...ever.
I also can't wait for your history of motor oil video from Lake Speed Jr. I am a huge fan of him and his cutting through all the fog of motor oil. I am a retired 58 year old IT geek with a deep car history who geeks on all this stuff. My new favorite thing is thowing up lab analysis numbers on brands in oil debate forums. I truly 150% agree with Lake's statement, brand means little, it's all in the oil chemistry but you'll always have tons of hard core brand only loyalist on oil debate forums that feel better spending $12 a quart when the lab results show near identical numbers with $6.
Thanks for watching!
Yes! A history of motor oil would be fantastic! Great video!
Noted!
It’s good to hear you emphatically state IT’S NOT THE BRAND THAT MATTERS it’s WHAT’S IN THE BRAND. Too many car guys love to bluster on about what they always relied on “back in the day” because they had X number of cars run 250,000 miles without a hiccup using “good ol’ reliable ____”. I grew up loyal to conventional Quaker State in my first 30 years of cars (80s, 90s, 00’s). Then when everything changed and little GDI engines with turbos became the new normal I relearned how to find the right oil for each vehicle I bought based on its individual engine. I quickly learned brand is not what matters most anymore. Thank you for your analysis & advice on the samples I’ve sent to SpeedDiagnostix, and thank you for making these videos and continuing to educate!
Thank you so much!
Very well put together Lake...Good job !
Thanks!
Highly anticipating that video with your Porsche and Pennzoil Ultra Platinum oil analysis after 3K miles. Very interesting to hear your opinion about its performance and also your interpretation of its chemical and physical properties/coefficients after oil analysis. This is definitely a top content!
As a mechanic who is cleaning up an isx15 who ran pennzoil say no it has a lot of plugged oil galleries
@@D3AThCAl2DSI don’t know what isx15 is. Maybe it is not the oil that caused plugged oil galleries. What were the oil change intervals?! For how long the oil has been run? Maybe the galleries were plugged before the Pennzoil UP was put inside that engine? It is just that only a few users reported of sludge buildup while thousands of others did not have any problems. Maybe the problem in your case is in the usage, not the oil itself.
@@D3AThCAl2DS i dont even think pennzoil makes a diesel oil ? if they do i dont think it marketed towards heavy duty trucks
@@nicholaspetre1An ISX is a 15liter Cummins truck engine.
@@D3AThCAl2DSPennzoil doesn’t make a HD diesel oil. I’m calling BS.
Once again great video, Lake thank you!! Add my vote for the history of motor oil & a video on Amsoil!! Keep up the great work!!
Thank you!
Fantastic info. Love this channel not only for the great content, but your father was one of my favorite drivers when I was a kid (he had the coolest name lol)
I appreciate that!
Yes I'd love to hear you talk about the history of Motor Oil
Noted!
I want you to know you’ve really done well adapting to video making, you can see a huge quality jump from months back. Keep up the good work
Thank you so much!
I would love to hear about the history of oil. I've been very much enjoying the information you have been sharing to far. I have a 6.7 Powerstroke. I have been interested in oil for a long time. I usually use AMSOIL. I am excited to continue to learn. Thanks for all the great info!
An educated populace facilitates innovation for advancement in industry. I work at a large car parts supplier, and you have helped me better serve my customers; however, I would be watching your videos even if I wasn't employed there. Impartial information on motor oil is very rare, and can be nearly impossible to find when factoring in brand bias exclusivity. I appreciate you putting in the leg work to actually spread this knowledge, and your effort in including all the major brands. I would love to see oil filter brand comparisons in the future.
Thank you, and your suggestion is noted.
Great video comparing the two differences. Thanks!
Thanks!
Yes please interested in the history of motor oil. That would be another great video.
FYI, after watching one of your previous tests I now use Pennzoil
Thanks
First time seeing your video explaination. As an engineer (and old mechanic), I enjoyed it.
I've beed using Pennz since the '70's and ling ago noticed customers who used QS in their cars tended to have paraffin gumming things up. Those who used Pennz, Valvoline or Castrol stayed clean.
Much agree with the one who pointed out that oil change FREQUENCY is most important.
Do the math and it would take a lot of " extra" oil changes to equal the cost of an overhaul...even one you do yourself...Same goes for paying a bit more for a Wix or quality oil filter.
Thank you!
Yes history please!!!!!!! Lubrizol plants in niagara falls Canada. Lots of the valvoline I ran came from there. Was interesting to drive through the plant. When they blended oil was usually with 50lbs bags of raw additives into a vat. Would mix overnight then would get tested and adjusted. There was a small window of variance between batches.
Awesome! The original batches of Joe Gibbs oil was made at the LuCan plant... Noted on the history video.
Great video. Shell and Shell brand lubricants are really good overall. As well, Shell makes the Motomaster brand for Canadian Tire.
Thanks for sharing!
Thanks as always! Great info, especially as it becomes a cumulative base of info across all brands😎
Glad it was helpful!
Great video. I love auto stuff based on science not marketing. Back in the '80s when I sold Porsches the company recommended only Shell oil be used. There was even a sticker in the engine bay. Our dealership used only Shell for oil changes.
I was born and grew up in Oil City, PA, home of Pennzoil, QS, Wolfshead, and Amalie. The natives always used Pennzoil.
Been using wolfshead forever at this point
Also want to see Amsoil but I love to see that chemistry as well
Ok you got me. Having been a propulsion mgr in my previous life, I’ve always been big on maintenance. We’ll be watching.
Thanks!
Great info love your channel. I would love to see how AMSOIL stands up from OEM oils and other brands
Thank you!
I'd be interested in a motor oil history video. I didn't know that Pennzoil and Quakerstate were both owned by Shell. Your oil analysis reports go into much more detail than Blackstone's. I like how your reports give an explanation of the purpose each additive performs.
Thank you!
Thanks for this comparison, Lake! If ya'lls want Quaker State GTL base oil... check out QS 5W40, exact same as Pennzoil 5w40.
Would absolutely love a history of oil!! Love the channel
Noted!
Thanks for the explanation in the 'wrap up'.... I'm definitely looking forward to future videos. And I appreciate the methodical approach.
On the two oils analyzed here I'm still left wondering which performs better. I'd expect the GTL base to last longer.. but does it.... and if you change a 3000 miles is there much difference on that time frame?
Thanks for the kind words and the question. Both oils will perform well as the GM Dexos 1: Gen 3 spec requires a high level of performance in their engine tests. From the VOA alone, you can not know which one would work the best for your vehicle and the way you drive it. Only used oil analysis can reveal that.
Glad to hear that you will be looking at Amsoil eventually. Also would be curious if you took a look at Idemitsu, both US and Japanese formulas.
Agreed. Eneos and Ravenol are two other brands I'm curious about. One way Lake could really set his channel apart from most others is by making videos on foreign brands that aren't common here.
@@averyalexander2303Are Ravenol oils available in the US?
@@scatpack4715 It's not readily available, but if someone wants it, it's available online. It's expensive, but so is Amsoil, Royal Purple, Redline, HPL, etc.
I second your thoughts. Yes that Japanese Idemitsu oil looks really interesting. I'm thinking it's really good engine oil. If I remember correctly it was high in the additive package . maybe Molybdenum and Boron.
We are a multiple Subaru family so intersted as Idimitsu manufactures the Subaru-branded oil. @@mrtdiver
It would be really cool to see a video going over OEM diesel oils such as John Deere, AGCO, CNH, Kubota, CAT vs aftermarket like Rotella T4, T5, and T6, Delvac, and Delo. Would be nice to know what blends OEMs think work best in their equipment
Agreed 100%
Don't forget about Delvac 1.
None of the OEM oils are made by those OEM's they are buying oil from SOPUS, Exxon Mobile, Warren Industries, Valvoline, Citgo, BP etc....
@@buckaroobonsi555 I’m aware. They’re blended to the OEMs specks by those companies
And the OEMs bid it out to the lowest bidder as well I bet.
Great Video! Thanks for sharing!
Yes to the history.
Glad you enjoyed it
super interested
Everything all the time yes
Noted!
Would love the full history on motor oils!
Noted!
Another great video. A history of motor oil would be great. Thanks!
Thank you!
The history of lubrication will be very interesting. Back in the 80's my father was a Mobil Oil Distributor in Australia. Delvac SHC became available well before Mobil 1. I started using SHC in my high performance Ford Cleveland's. Immediately found out a number of differences between mineral oils and synthetics. Because I didn't know any better, I essentially undertook my own hard knock R&D program. Differences in oil consumption and new motor break in being a couple of areas that immediately stood out. Since then I've learnt a lot of things. The single stand out thing is that I know less now than I did in the 80's. Regards Greg
Thanks! That sounds like a vote for the oil history video.
This channel is just getting better and better!!
Thanks!
I have an old school 4x4 that I alternate between the Amsoil AME 15w-40 and the Series 3000 5w-30 I have built a comparison of UOA between the two in the same engine which is still ongoing.
How old is old? I run a 4x4 with a V8 that is almost 50 years old, and was designed well over 60 years ago. I use Shell Rotella T4 15W40 in it for the high zinc and phosphorus additive content.
@@Eddievoneddie13 mid 80's
Your analytical approach to engine oils is appreciated.
Question - Is tricresyl phosphate used as an oil additive?
it is in gear oils and aviation oils.
Thanks Lake. Most definitely a history lesson. Keep the education coming!
Noted!
Lake, I just did an oil change on my 2020 GMC Sierra, 5.3. I alway use Pennzoil 0w-20, and mistakenly grabbed and put in the ‘Ultra Platinum’ synthetic which is apparently not Dexos approved. Should I drain and and refill? What, and if any problems should I be looking for now, or down the road. Thanks, (A bit embarrassed)
Yes sir I would love more history and content
Noted!
Super interesting videos 👍🏻 Can you please make a video on transmission fluids as well like difference between OEM transmission fluid and Generic like Valvoline MaxLife ATF
Thank you🙏🏼
Add the Red Line DT6 to analysis too which is their Dexron VI Mercon LV product