Slight correction: when writing the script for this video, I wasn’t aware just how strongly Mirage got buffed in the previous patch. It hits super hard now! I still think the class has major usability issues and a very steep learning curve, so I would probably upgrade it to B tier? Amazing pick if you are a god gamer, still not the best choice for most
Vindi got kinda meh after this patch. Sure - on golem bench is even higher with 100% vigor uptime. But in real encounters it doesnt feel that smooth anymore, less endurance and with no self vigor its not as fun as it was. Still atleast A tier probably just because of pumpin good dmg.
I don't think anyone expected that buff to be as huge as it was! FWIW I agree with Mirage in B tier, imo it's in a very similar spot to chrono: reallu good in capable hands, but probably not a good pick for your first endgame build. For Chrono it's Continuum Split that makes it so hard to play, for Mirage I reckon having your dodge as an essential part of the rotation will throw most new (and a fair few experienced) players for a loop.
Personally I feel like Mirage is C at best because the axe _suuuuucks_ . Axe 2 sends you flying through the target, axe 3 teleports you to a random location around your target. Axe feels like it was meant purely for PvP/WvW fun and doesn't fit instanced PvE at all.
@@selenang2006 It used to do really big damage in the last expac, like wipe the entire screen off big damage. Now it just does damage and it's not impactful enough anymore.
@@hellolin324 I've just check and the DPS build does like 43k at the moment. That's quite above average. Bladesworn is one of those harder DPS specs that requires player to be comfortable with the playstyle and used to the fight mechanic. It's not really plug-and-play like Spellbreaker.
@@shivag73 It is satisfying when u switch to the gunblade, the sound effect. Bad thing is it will always look the same even when u switch a new weapon or skin.
I recently started playing GW2 and also discovered your channel. Your videos have made me enjoy and appreciate the game much more than before, even though English is not my native language. So, thank you very much for the videos.
I joined a few world boss trains with a friend a few days ago and we both realised something - there were ZERO elementalists. And trust me, we were actively looking. Rangers/Soulbeasts were everywhere, followed by Guardians/Dragonhunters, and as always, a ton of Necromancer/Reapers. There were a few thieves, engineers, revenants, mesmers, and warriors, but we literally did not see a single elementalist (or any of its elite specs).
Power renegade is underrated imo. Most people pick up renegade for its condi dps but forget how strong power is, because it lets your effigies deal a huge amount of damage on their own without needing to commit yourself, you can easily get between 10-20k damage per effigy which only applies to ash legion and iron legion effigies but its honestly good dps. The only issue is that the dps window is tight and you really need to spend a lot of your Kalla energy maintaining alacrity for yourself if you are trying to solo so you can keep your iron legion effigy on the field to keep the max vulnerability stacks on the enemy.
Dual pistol deadeye is stupidly efficient in openworld, im not sure about fractals n stuff, but in open world you literally only have to use (3) unload and you do pretty damn good damage, you can also remain super mobile, its actually pretty decent!
L....you are now my go-to for GW2 anything. The information and charisma that comes through in your narration is top tier. This is only my second Laranity GW2 video, and I just love what I've seen and heard. I became a subscriber after watching my first. I absolutely LOVE your content!!
It's funny how the classes has changed since the beginning of GW2. At first there where just a view people who played ingenieur because it was so hard to play. Now with Mechanist everybody plays it because it makes a lot of damage and is easy to play. Necro was an Outcast at Fractals and Dungeons and now scourge and reaper a most common class. I think Arenanet did a good job there.
Nearly 4k hours on my Guard, but Scrapper is my favorit for PvE. nearly all skills are usefull (elixir, kits, gyros, gadgets, turrets) , buffs, cc, invis, stunbreaks, quickness/speed/superspeed, close and ranged combat. its an Swiss Army knife :D and you can swap from quickDPS to heal very fast.
Note for anyone who would like to pick up quickness cata: The energy management can be made a lot easier by picking the bottom trait in the first column that gives you energy on attunement swap. It is a miniscule dps loss compared to the trait recommended by snowcrows, but massively ups your energy gain, even when you are not attacking and EVEN when you are cc'd or rezzing someone
Funnily enough, I ended up starting as a necromancer because I thought letting summons fight for me sounded great. Needless to say, that idea did not last. But some of the dialogue my char throws out when a minion dies always give me a good chuckle. "No! I hand raised that minion" comes to mind. lol Then I ended up going Reaper because I was jealous that Trahearne got a cool sword and I wanted one. 😅 Still reaping souls a year later in Heart of Thorns.
I love this game and I hate it at same time, because i have 300 hours played and i still don't know what to main because all classes are fun to play...
As a Reaper main I can confirm we hit like trucks. Takes half an hour to hit anything but it's not like the enemy are going anywhere with all that Chill on them. And it's not as if Reapers are in the habit of running away. Nah, mate, it's just a scratch! I'll Shroud 2 out of the way later. Arms grow back, right?
I love Virtuoso! However, the thing that I feel holds it back compared to, Chrono/Mirage is that while it's nice that your keep your blades (clones) after defeating an enemy, the blades also don't work as distractions the same what clones do on Chrono/Mirage. I feel I'm forced to be running way more often and when the Mesmer is already very squishy defensively, if a horde runs as you you gotta also run! As far as damage and fun, yeah, Virtuoso has all of it! Also, thing with Spectre that I feel keeps it from S tier (for me, personally) is that the Wells FORCE you into Melee range which is bizarre considering it has a ranged weapon. They should have a shadowstep return option or something. Like they say, get in and get out. 🤭Also, the ally targeting is silly in this game. With all the chaos going on and you have to perfectly click on an ally in order to target them but with other players or minions running around it's not that simple. FFXIV has a smooth system for this because they have dedicated healers, but ANET trying to to implement it when it was never supposed to be a thing in their revolutionary NON-TRINITY game is proving to be troublesome.
Heal chrono is already a thing right now. Rifle will definitely make it easier (not necessarily more fun to play imo, probably will be my 'swap in case of emergency' weapon)
@@Laranity in my opinion it limits the class too much compared to other weapons you can run. It won't ever replace scepter clone generation and focus utility. The might on shield is a lot easier to apply compared to rifle 3, and sword still has the best phantasm uptime if you struggle with quickness or Alacrity uptime. Rifle 5 is too niche to be actually be usable in PvE, though I can definitely see some uses in competitive game modes. But yeah I do kind of miss the burst healing and don't forget how it simplifies regeneration uptime, though that is about it for me.
Duel pistol lifesteal deadeye is kinda fire actually for PvE general and solo boss fighting. Would suggest a bump in ranting, but maybe that's just me. I bet it would be great in a group too.
For me it's viper's Staff/GS (Staff with bursting/malice and GS with force/impact) mirage with Travler's runes , Relic of Akeem and for food/utility I go Plate of fire flank steak and Toxic focusing crystal ... This build is not meta and sounds soooo ridicule but it's soooooo much fun to play and has soo much boon generation that you find yourself perfectly hybrid with high range mixed dmg . For spec I go 1/2/1 domination , 1/3/3 chaos and 2/2/1 mirage and Utility I go signets of Midnight and Domination Plus Illusionary Ambush and ofc False Oasis and Jaunt for heal and elite
Virtuoso is one of those ones I keep meaning to try, more so after that weapon beta. After watching though I also wanna try some more like vindicator, but admittedly mesmer and revenant tend to be my weaker classes as I have less idea what I’m doing lol. Enjoyed seeing the audience hammer on the catalyst though - I love the shamrock the spinning hammers make and will sometimes go through them when standing around just to enjoy the spin 😂
Yay!! Vindicator is my main right now and I am loving it. I do feel like during SotO I am killing things a lot faster and staying alive easier. Love your videos.
I've been maining dual dagger daredevil in open world and its been super good. In big events I rarely ever die because I have SO many evades that nothing hits me. And im getting boons and heals from others in events. Not sure how it does in instanced content though.... Probably fall off every ledge since they never have walls. :(
The list is very solid, and reflecting the recent balance patch results too. You will always see certain niche specs shine is some PVE instanced situation but this list is a very good overall ranking on the most reliable classes in S and A tier. B thier is when you rise an eyebrow when they join the group but a good player will definitely make wonders with those C tier is “you log on an other char right?” D tier can be 2 types: the silent genious kids with 5 precasted abilities before fight and 80k dps opener or less dps than the healer no inbetween.
Looking forward to that Scrapper guide you mentioned. I 've been playing it for a while, loving it, but sucking just as hard. I am a fan of the Quickness dps build, but hit around 14k dps (where the Reapers hit 37k), I want to contribute more to my fractal parties, and hope to learn a thing or two from you
I remembered that video of yours that revolves around "What does you character choice says about you", and you mentioned that mesmers are mostly blindingly shiny... I looked at my character and just laughed. Prismatic Champion's Regalia, Vision, Aurora, Aurene Staff, Aurene Outfit, Aurene Cape, Sunrise, all with white-yellow dye... yeah, it's blinding to look at.
I may argue that Renegade can be rather fun to play. Shortbow Renegade simply *melts* enemies, and I do mean that literally. If you have high concentration, you can actually keep up your alacrity beyond the cooldown for Orders From Above, keeping it on you and your teammates forever. However, you also need to manage your energy carefully, because if you don't have enough energy to keep up OFA as soon as it's off cooldown, you're going to be in trouble. You need not have Kalla as one of your active Legends to be good at killing everything that crosses your path, but it certainly doesn't hurt to have her. One other thing that I should argue about is Bladesworn. Yes, it can be tricky to play it, and it doesn't have much utility for a team beyond banners and alacrity, but that latter part can actually make a lot of difference. Bladesworn's Daring Dragon trait has the longest-lasting alacrity buff in the game. Full stop. And with high concentration, you can extend it to mind-boggling durations, so long as you have enough flow to enter Dragon Slash, which can easily be remedied with To The Limit! shout. And it can also be very tanky, with right traits and utility skills. Not to mention that Bladesworn has access to aegis through both Gunsaber and Dragon Slash 4 (though you cannot give it to your teammates like Guardian), something that can save you a lot of headaches if you need to keep up alacrity without interruptions from CCs. Either way, both of those elites should be higher than what you gave them. Not S-tier(even if shortbow can output hilarious amounts of hurt on enemies through bleeding and burning, making PvE trivially easy with a renegade), but certainly A-tier.
was just about to say except for mirage i totally agree with this ranking. to me the biggest limiting factor of a class mostly is how good they perform in open world content because often enough you are pretty much alone doing champions, legendaries and other sorts of bosses in general etc. that can be a really big downer in my opinion because every class can perform very well to a certain extent in group content like raids, fractals or dungeons because you get many boons and buffs, but playing solo in open world you mostly don't have these buffs or boons.
i agree and disagree with untamed. yes, the dps version its just soulbeast with a pet. and ye, condi quick its just a meh dps with quickness attached to it. but i gotta say that power quick its way better, you can change marksmanship for nature magic for free boon duration and doublesmash spirits, changing spores for storm spirit that deals more damage thanks to doublesmash + double cc, not being condi frees your elite from entangle, so you can get elite spirit for up to a 10 man res with doublesmash. making the build way better, self sustainable (even able to self res since the 2nd smash has a delay), having lots of ccs, and some other niche utils like massive cleanses on healing trap or frost spirit if the healers are sleeping on that, boonrips, projectile blocks etc
I've been a reaper main since HoT and it has always been S tier in my heart, even during its low moments. But watching your streams and videos has inspired me to try out more support-y builds, been having a ton of fun running quickness herald lately! The build diversity across the classes feels so good lately.
Me having 500 hours into GW2 and noticing how much of a beginner I am. I am too casual to have alts and went all in on Thief, kinda hating myself now. I'm Deadeye cause I love the concept, but do feel like I don't do enough damage even with mostly Ascended gear.
One of the lovely things about GW2 is that there really isn't a best class. For example. I could be REALLY good at a specialization which affects my DPS etc, and I could be really bad at the very best DPS class in the game. If you suck at a specialization, it's going to hurt your experience. Find what you love!
i've played every spec in all PvE content, & honestly core power greatsword guardian is the most fun and most sustainable spec. huge aoe, tons of healing, every buff possible w/ shouts, and a ton of ranged dmg w/ the bow.
Relic of the MIdnight King makes area might & fury super-easy on Renegade right now via Darkrazor's Daring (utility) and Scorchrazor (bow 5). The summons are really interesting in that enemies will attack them, especially hilarious if they go after your life-steal elite which has a 1s cooldown to resummon. It's "fine" in celestial, with a lot of boon and cc potential. It's more of a solid A-tier now thanks to the relic, especially with a staff to go with your bow. The elite gives an easy-to-maintain fire field for combos and generous life-stealing for allies.
I’m just coming back after a year and a half or so, didn’t know vindicator was that powerful, I’ll have to look it up. I played a ton of power alacren back in the day but it seems theirs better suited alac classes now
Dual Pistol Deadeye here. Curious on leaning on that end. Unload can do massive dps while not being rooted. In full berserker gear I’m usually the highest in damage.
The only one I still disagree here is untamed. You can do almost soulbeast's damage with much more forgiving rotation with tons of survivability. If you set your unleash on weapons swaping, you have free healing every few seconds with very good damage.
Hey Lara, Great Video! So you plan to create a Firebrand Guide? :) I really liked the Scourge Video which brought me back to play GW2. I‘m looking for some variety within playing the game and I’m looking forward to play Firebrand :) Have a great day!😊
Hi, I am planning to come back to Guild Wars 2. I only have played it on relaese. You are just ranking the elite speccs, so I ask myself is it only viable to play an elitespecc or can you play a "vanilla" character as well? Greetings
My favorites for PVE are Harbinger(although it took a while to find a build I liked but my current one is very tanky and still does a lot of damage), Chronomancer(it's my favorite heal/support spec for PVE right now, you feel immortal on scepter shield, loads of boons and stability, and since a lot of enemies are difficult because they CC you into stuff, it makes things so survivable, and better personal damage than my heal Druid from my experience at least), Virtuoso is great too. My least favorites are sadly what used to be my favorite in Mirage, it feels so squishy and axe putting you in melee, it's like you either kill everything and dodge all damage or you get stuck in something or miss time and your HP just vanishes with very little healing options, even the fact the heal requires you to stay in play while the axe skills teleport you around is annoying for PVE), Weaver(so squishy, I'm realizing I don't like glass cannons for PVE), and Catalyst(I just don't vibe with it).
* /Sad Mirage main noises* even if it is at the bottom of the barrel, it's still my favourite spec to play. Renegade is also my 2nd main spec after Mirage. I guess I just enjoy the more unpopular classes 😅 (also using Chuka legendary with Renegade is fun bc I get to shoot tigers at everyone while also summoning more big cats)
Yknow that makes sense I should’ve used chuka on mine, but I think when I unlocked I finished the Dreamer shortly after and she’s been shooting ponies since 😂 Chuka was my first and will always be special...I also like how the first two short bows got creature arrows and hope more classes get access
Mirage is my go to class for open world if i want to do solo stuff and just chill. I play full celestial staff/ dagger + pistol. It's very fun and it is basically impossible to die against anything that is not a legendary. If you don't know what you are doing dps might be a bit bad but otherwise it is easily among the best open world builds in my opinion. I really hope they at least buff it to a point where people won't think you are trolling when you join a group. xD
Lately I've noticed how New World has ripped off bosses from GuildWars 2, the flame naga, here is Neishataun in the Tempest instance in New World. There's another similar boss where you fight a giant statue on a platform that the statue is inside the middle. Last boss of Lazarus in new world. Kinda sad how MMO's rip off GW2 badly.
thanks for the Video was fun to watch, but i wish you also included the normal specs aswell, since some people also prefer the classes without an elite spec
Elementalist always be S tier class! Jokes aside, Tempest for me will be in S tier. As healer is harder to execute than other classes, but really straightforward. As for other classes (did not tried Engineer only), most of them are HoT for me as those very enjoyable. Rest is fine, is good, but I'm not enjoying them that much :p
can you also do a tier list of professions with the easiest time finding groups? aka most sought after professions and builds. I have limited playtime and would be good to see which professions generally have an easier time finding a group. I'm guessing healing builds?
1. I really like the difference equips you shows at the corner, really signify the differences of each elites. 2. why didnt you put Firebrand S tier? it got everything you need. it seems you focus more on higher burst dmg to give higher tier eh 3. ofcourse Untamed will not deal higher dmg than Soulbeast. its cuz your pet the one who will also help deal dmg 4. sad to see two thief specs are low tier. i get its not as flashy as other classes and its more solo-centric class but its still deal high dmg, no?
What version of herald you prefer? got mixed signals. i love it and just curious! I am excited for the healer pseudo buff and def wanna be tankier but already followed metabattle picking power quickness (which is fun still) but what you think!! i will get more ascended sets later so plan to have it all
Mirage is getting new nerf on axe dps after the last update but the reality is people dont explore the class on all angle / possibility , they dont try hard they just want easy rotation for big dps , the gameplay of mirage is unique , put mirage in D tiers is completely crazy its a S tier far ahead :)
I hope they add unique buffing abilities to classes since everything has been watered down to make all classes viable in PvE content. Renegade is nice for this reason since a lot of its kit does unique things even if its niche in a lot of instances. My hope is that chrono gets this treatment since it doesn't really feel like the master of time anymore after giving alacrity to damn near every class in the game.
Slight correction: when writing the script for this video, I wasn’t aware just how strongly Mirage got buffed in the previous patch. It hits super hard now!
I still think the class has major usability issues and a very steep learning curve, so I would probably upgrade it to B tier? Amazing pick if you are a god gamer, still not the best choice for most
Vindi got kinda meh after this patch. Sure - on golem bench is even higher with 100% vigor uptime. But in real encounters it doesnt feel that smooth anymore, less endurance and with no self vigor its not as fun as it was. Still atleast A tier probably just because of pumpin good dmg.
I don't think anyone expected that buff to be as huge as it was!
FWIW I agree with Mirage in B tier, imo it's in a very similar spot to chrono: reallu good in capable hands, but probably not a good pick for your first endgame build. For Chrono it's Continuum Split that makes it so hard to play, for Mirage I reckon having your dodge as an essential part of the rotation will throw most new (and a fair few experienced) players for a loop.
Hi, could you please link all armor set and dyes for each character on the left of the screen? Thanks
Personally I feel like Mirage is C at best because the axe _suuuuucks_ . Axe 2 sends you flying through the target, axe 3 teleports you to a random location around your target. Axe feels like it was meant purely for PvP/WvW fun and doesn't fit instanced PvE at all.
isnt double staff the standard for mirage ?@@Jmvars
I just love this game so much because of how much variety the classes have.
I just got back into the game recently and your videos are really helpful, i look forward to your future build videos.
welcome back!
Hi Laranity, I picked up GW2 during the steam sale and your videos have helped a lot!
I love the idea of bladesworn, it just feels so clunky when you have to stand still for your big burst.
The big numbers are satisfying but in some mobs with cc, your gonna have a tough time
@@selenang2006 It used to do really big damage in the last expac, like wipe the entire screen off big damage. Now it just does damage and it's not impactful enough anymore.
@@hellolin324 I've just check and the DPS build does like 43k at the moment. That's quite above average.
Bladesworn is one of those harder DPS specs that requires player to be comfortable with the playstyle and used to the fight mechanic. It's not really plug-and-play like Spellbreaker.
I'm levelling a warrior for the first time just so I can do that elite. I'm a Final Fantasy nerd, so it reminds me of Squal's gunblade on FF8.
@@shivag73 It is satisfying when u switch to the gunblade, the sound effect. Bad thing is it will always look the same even when u switch a new weapon or skin.
I recently started playing GW2 and also discovered your channel. Your videos have made me enjoy and appreciate the game much more than before, even though English is not my native language. So, thank you very much for the videos.
I joined a few world boss trains with a friend a few days ago and we both realised something - there were ZERO elementalists. And trust me, we were actively looking. Rangers/Soulbeasts were everywhere, followed by Guardians/Dragonhunters, and as always, a ton of Necromancer/Reapers. There were a few thieves, engineers, revenants, mesmers, and warriors, but we literally did not see a single elementalist (or any of its elite specs).
No guitar players were online at the time lol
I loved being an Elementalist in GW1, but in GW2, it's soooo hard for me 😭
Power renegade is underrated imo. Most people pick up renegade for its condi dps but forget how strong power is, because it lets your effigies deal a huge amount of damage on their own without needing to commit yourself, you can easily get between 10-20k damage per effigy which only applies to ash legion and iron legion effigies but its honestly good dps. The only issue is that the dps window is tight and you really need to spend a lot of your Kalla energy maintaining alacrity for yourself if you are trying to solo so you can keep your iron legion effigy on the field to keep the max vulnerability stacks on the enemy.
Dual pistol deadeye is stupidly efficient in openworld, im not sure about fractals n stuff, but in open world you literally only have to use (3) unload and you do pretty damn good damage, you can also remain super mobile, its actually pretty decent!
I feel the same lol. duel pistol IS stupid good
L....you are now my go-to for GW2 anything. The information and charisma that comes through in your narration is top tier. This is only my second Laranity GW2 video, and I just love what I've seen and heard. I became a subscriber after watching my first. I absolutely LOVE your content!!
Appreciate that Fashion Wars 2 corner showcase😄 Your characters are so pretty!
As a Harb main, I love how it feeds my AuDHD. Chrono and Specter feeds it, too.
Scourge is my meta build for Necro and Chrono for my Mesmer.
It's funny how the classes has changed since the beginning of GW2. At first there where just a view people who played ingenieur because it was so hard to play. Now with Mechanist everybody plays it because it makes a lot of damage and is easy to play. Necro was an Outcast at Fractals and Dungeons and now scourge and reaper a most common class. I think Arenanet did a good job there.
Nearly 4k hours on my Guard, but Scrapper is my favorit for PvE.
nearly all skills are usefull (elixir, kits, gyros, gadgets, turrets) , buffs, cc, invis, stunbreaks, quickness/speed/superspeed, close and ranged combat. its an Swiss Army knife :D
and you can swap from quickDPS to heal very fast.
Note for anyone who would like to pick up quickness cata:
The energy management can be made a lot easier by picking the bottom trait in the first column that gives you energy on attunement swap. It is a miniscule dps loss compared to the trait recommended by snowcrows, but massively ups your energy gain, even when you are not attacking and EVEN when you are cc'd or rezzing someone
Just picked up the game last week and ur videos have not only helped a ton but also fueled my addiction for this game, keep it up!
Started my GW2 Journey like 100h ago, Revenant called me and i never looked back. I just love my Rev / herald und its just so much fun.
lesser gamers will tell you to look back. Dont listen to them. rev forever!
Funnily enough, I ended up starting as a necromancer because I thought letting summons fight for me sounded great. Needless to say, that idea did not last. But some of the dialogue my char throws out when a minion dies always give me a good chuckle. "No! I hand raised that minion" comes to mind. lol
Then I ended up going Reaper because I was jealous that Trahearne got a cool sword and I wanted one.
😅
Still reaping souls a year later in Heart of Thorns.
I love this game and I hate it at same time, because i have 300 hours played and i still don't know what to main because all classes are fun to play...
Oh boy, can't wait to see where my favourite spec - Deadeye - gets placed! I bet it'll be like A, or even S-rank!
it is now haha
As a Reaper main I can confirm we hit like trucks. Takes half an hour to hit anything but it's not like the enemy are going anywhere with all that Chill on them. And it's not as if Reapers are in the habit of running away. Nah, mate, it's just a scratch! I'll Shroud 2 out of the way later. Arms grow back, right?
I love Virtuoso! However, the thing that I feel holds it back compared to, Chrono/Mirage is that while it's nice that your keep your blades (clones) after defeating an enemy, the blades also don't work as distractions the same what clones do on Chrono/Mirage. I feel I'm forced to be running way more often and when the Mesmer is already very squishy defensively, if a horde runs as you you gotta also run! As far as damage and fun, yeah, Virtuoso has all of it!
Also, thing with Spectre that I feel keeps it from S tier (for me, personally) is that the Wells FORCE you into Melee range which is bizarre considering it has a ranged weapon. They should have a shadowstep return option or something. Like they say, get in and get out. 🤭Also, the ally targeting is silly in this game. With all the chaos going on and you have to perfectly click on an ally in order to target them but with other players or minions running around it's not that simple. FFXIV has a smooth system for this because they have dedicated healers, but ANET trying to to implement it when it was never supposed to be a thing in their revolutionary NON-TRINITY game is proving to be troublesome.
But what you can do whit Virtuoso? is viable for open world champions ? all i know is decent in pve, but trash on pvp/www ? need opinions
Heal chrono is already a thing right now. Rifle will definitely make it easier (not necessarily more fun to play imo, probably will be my 'swap in case of emergency' weapon)
The rifle's bursting healing is so nice, definitely gonna miss it for now :(
@@Laranity in my opinion it limits the class too much compared to other weapons you can run. It won't ever replace scepter clone generation and focus utility. The might on shield is a lot easier to apply compared to rifle 3, and sword still has the best phantasm uptime if you struggle with quickness or Alacrity uptime. Rifle 5 is too niche to be actually be usable in PvE, though I can definitely see some uses in competitive game modes. But yeah I do kind of miss the burst healing and don't forget how it simplifies regeneration uptime, though that is about it for me.
The rise of the second era of chronomancer is upon us
Duel pistol lifesteal deadeye is kinda fire actually for PvE general and solo boss fighting. Would suggest a bump in ranting, but maybe that's just me. I bet it would be great in a group too.
Nice and fun video!! The editing in this one is beyond funny.
However, thief is S tier. Because thiefs are Superb.
For me it's viper's Staff/GS (Staff with bursting/malice and GS with force/impact) mirage with Travler's runes , Relic of Akeem and for food/utility I go Plate of fire flank steak and Toxic focusing crystal ... This build is not meta and sounds soooo ridicule but it's soooooo much fun to play and has soo much boon generation that you find yourself perfectly hybrid with high range mixed dmg . For spec I go 1/2/1 domination , 1/3/3 chaos and 2/2/1 mirage and Utility I go signets of Midnight and Domination Plus Illusionary Ambush and ofc False Oasis and Jaunt for heal and elite
I'm an untamed main lmao, but mostly because you can make an AMAZING survivable open world build. It's what I solo champions and fractals with.
Best class is quite simple:
THE ONE YOU LOVE TO PLAY! :)
I already know the top is herald. It has so much versatility and is good in every situation. There's nothing that herald can't do
Virtuoso is one of those ones I keep meaning to try, more so after that weapon beta. After watching though I also wanna try some more like vindicator, but admittedly mesmer and revenant tend to be my weaker classes as I have less idea what I’m doing lol. Enjoyed seeing the audience hammer on the catalyst though - I love the shamrock the spinning hammers make and will sometimes go through them when standing around just to enjoy the spin 😂
Grabs a seat and waits for Lara-Builds
Yay!! Vindicator is my main right now and I am loving it. I do feel like during SotO I am killing things a lot faster and staying alive easier. Love your videos.
I love my Dragonhunter ❤ It's straightforward and the damage is crazy.
I really appreciated the time and effort into this video as someone who just got this game this helps so much thank you
I've been maining dual dagger daredevil in open world and its been super good. In big events I rarely ever die because I have SO many evades that nothing hits me. And im getting boons and heals from others in events. Not sure how it does in instanced content though.... Probably fall off every ledge since they never have walls. :(
The list is very solid, and reflecting the recent balance patch results too.
You will always see certain niche specs shine is some PVE instanced situation but this list is a very good overall ranking on the most reliable classes in S and A tier.
B thier is when you rise an eyebrow when they join the group but a good player will definitely make wonders with those
C tier is “you log on an other char right?”
D tier can be 2 types: the silent genious kids with 5 precasted abilities before fight and 80k dps opener or less dps than the healer no inbetween.
Looking forward to that Scrapper guide you mentioned.
I 've been playing it for a while, loving it, but sucking just as hard. I am a fan of the Quickness dps build, but hit around 14k dps (where the Reapers hit 37k),
I want to contribute more to my fractal parties, and hope to learn a thing or two from you
Use Applied Force for pure DPS. If you opt for quickness, you can't compete with other pure DPS specs
I remembered that video of yours that revolves around "What does you character choice says about you", and you mentioned that mesmers are mostly blindingly shiny... I looked at my character and just laughed. Prismatic Champion's Regalia, Vision, Aurora, Aurene Staff, Aurene Outfit, Aurene Cape, Sunrise, all with white-yellow dye... yeah, it's blinding to look at.
In few hours of reading this comment I have run into some dark purple/black mesmer on my abyssal green (read the blackest) with some purple mesmer xD
i just wanna say the intro character looks absolutely amazing.
Druid will always be my S tier forever no matter what
Druid > Ham
Same. Alac Heal Druid is S+ tier
Druid is super fun
Untamed you mean?
what build do u use?
I may argue that Renegade can be rather fun to play. Shortbow Renegade simply *melts* enemies, and I do mean that literally. If you have high concentration, you can actually keep up your alacrity beyond the cooldown for Orders From Above, keeping it on you and your teammates forever. However, you also need to manage your energy carefully, because if you don't have enough energy to keep up OFA as soon as it's off cooldown, you're going to be in trouble. You need not have Kalla as one of your active Legends to be good at killing everything that crosses your path, but it certainly doesn't hurt to have her.
One other thing that I should argue about is Bladesworn. Yes, it can be tricky to play it, and it doesn't have much utility for a team beyond banners and alacrity, but that latter part can actually make a lot of difference. Bladesworn's Daring Dragon trait has the longest-lasting alacrity buff in the game. Full stop. And with high concentration, you can extend it to mind-boggling durations, so long as you have enough flow to enter Dragon Slash, which can easily be remedied with To The Limit! shout. And it can also be very tanky, with right traits and utility skills. Not to mention that Bladesworn has access to aegis through both Gunsaber and Dragon Slash 4 (though you cannot give it to your teammates like Guardian), something that can save you a lot of headaches if you need to keep up alacrity without interruptions from CCs.
Either way, both of those elites should be higher than what you gave them. Not S-tier(even if shortbow can output hilarious amounts of hurt on enemies through bleeding and burning, making PvE trivially easy with a renegade), but certainly A-tier.
I love the vids! i recently got into gw2 and have been struggling to choose a class and your vids and classes have been amazing thank you!
Haven't played GW2 since the Path of Fire expansion.
Your video got me reinstalling it again. :D
was just about to say except for mirage i totally agree with this ranking. to me the biggest limiting factor of a class mostly is how good they perform in open world content because often enough you are pretty much alone doing champions, legendaries and other sorts of bosses in general etc. that can be a really big downer in my opinion because every class can perform very well to a certain extent in group content like raids, fractals or dungeons because you get many boons and buffs, but playing solo in open world you mostly don't have these buffs or boons.
i agree and disagree with untamed.
yes, the dps version its just soulbeast with a pet.
and ye, condi quick its just a meh dps with quickness attached to it.
but i gotta say that power quick its way better, you can change marksmanship for nature magic for free boon duration and doublesmash spirits, changing spores for storm spirit that deals more damage thanks to doublesmash + double cc, not being condi frees your elite from entangle, so you can get elite spirit for up to a 10 man res with doublesmash.
making the build way better, self sustainable (even able to self res since the 2nd smash has a delay), having lots of ccs, and some other niche utils like massive cleanses on healing trap or frost spirit if the healers are sleeping on that, boonrips, projectile blocks etc
I've been a reaper main since HoT and it has always been S tier in my heart, even during its low moments. But watching your streams and videos has inspired me to try out more support-y builds, been having a ton of fun running quickness herald lately! The build diversity across the classes feels so good lately.
Me having 500 hours into GW2 and noticing how much of a beginner I am. I am too casual to have alts and went all in on Thief, kinda hating myself now. I'm Deadeye cause I love the concept, but do feel like I don't do enough damage even with mostly Ascended gear.
I playing mesmer since 2014. Must say Mirage is freaking wild in doing big numbers damage, almost all the time top 10 in arc on huge events.
thanks for your stream. you restored faith for GW2 in me.
One of the lovely things about GW2 is that there really isn't a best class. For example. I could be REALLY good at a specialization which affects my DPS etc, and I could be really bad at the very best DPS class in the game. If you suck at a specialization, it's going to hurt your experience. Find what you love!
Condi Virtuoso sounds just like what I was looking for since I always wanted to try out a cDPS class
It's genuinely amazing. Might be slightly biased as it's my main, but it's so easy to use
i've played every spec in all PvE content, & honestly core power greatsword guardian is the most fun and most sustainable spec. huge aoe, tons of healing, every buff possible w/ shouts, and a ton of ranged dmg w/ the bow.
are core professions just in general not able to keep up with elite specializations?
Relic of the MIdnight King makes area might & fury super-easy on Renegade right now via Darkrazor's Daring (utility) and Scorchrazor (bow 5). The summons are really interesting in that enemies will attack them, especially hilarious if they go after your life-steal elite which has a 1s cooldown to resummon. It's "fine" in celestial, with a lot of boon and cc potential. It's more of a solid A-tier now thanks to the relic, especially with a staff to go with your bow. The elite gives an easy-to-maintain fire field for combos and generous life-stealing for allies.
Reaper in S-Tier, everything is good with the world.
not rly, always see them on the grd in metas.
I’m just coming back after a year and a half or so, didn’t know vindicator was that powerful, I’ll have to look it up. I played a ton of power alacren back in the day but it seems theirs better suited alac classes now
great video and nice to get some perspective even as a seasoned player! Also I appreciate ur accent so much!!! :D
Dual Pistol Deadeye here.
Curious on leaning on that end.
Unload can do massive dps while not being rooted. In full berserker gear I’m usually the highest in damage.
The only one I still disagree here is untamed. You can do almost soulbeast's damage with much more forgiving rotation with tons of survivability. If you set your unleash on weapons swaping, you have free healing every few seconds with very good damage.
Hey Lara,
Great Video! So you plan to create a Firebrand Guide? :)
I really liked the Scourge Video which brought me back to play GW2. I‘m looking for some variety within playing the game and I’m looking forward to play Firebrand :)
Have a great day!😊
As a new player, i dig videos like this.... still waiting for the DPS Scrapper Build, engineer is sooooooooooooooo much fun for me
Now this is the confirmation bias I needed. All of my favorite classes are up in S tier
Nice production!
Thanks for the vid, explained a lot for me. Only thing it needs more is Charr!
Hi, I am planning to come back to Guild Wars 2. I only have played it on relaese. You are just ranking the elite speccs, so I ask myself is it only viable to play an elitespecc or can you play a "vanilla" character as well?
Greetings
My favorites for PVE are Harbinger(although it took a while to find a build I liked but my current one is very tanky and still does a lot of damage), Chronomancer(it's my favorite heal/support spec for PVE right now, you feel immortal on scepter shield, loads of boons and stability, and since a lot of enemies are difficult because they CC you into stuff, it makes things so survivable, and better personal damage than my heal Druid from my experience at least), Virtuoso is great too.
My least favorites are sadly what used to be my favorite in Mirage, it feels so squishy and axe putting you in melee, it's like you either kill everything and dodge all damage or you get stuck in something or miss time and your HP just vanishes with very little healing options, even the fact the heal requires you to stay in play while the axe skills teleport you around is annoying for PVE), Weaver(so squishy, I'm realizing I don't like glass cannons for PVE), and Catalyst(I just don't vibe with it).
Would love to see a new class in the new expansion coming in 2024.
I 'member at the start of EoD there were so much Mechanists around. One of my strike squads had 7 mechanists.
In 2022: BLADESWORN
in 12.2023: baesworn
They're all S tier now but previously I would have said Firebrand, Scrapper, Chronomancer, Herald, and maybe necro.
Thank you for giving the correct answer straight away.
Trying to get back into the game, and cannot for the life of me decide to put my time into Necro, Mesmer, or Ele. Was hoping this would help 😂
* /Sad Mirage main noises* even if it is at the bottom of the barrel, it's still my favourite spec to play. Renegade is also my 2nd main spec after Mirage. I guess I just enjoy the more unpopular classes 😅 (also using Chuka legendary with Renegade is fun bc I get to shoot tigers at everyone while also summoning more big cats)
Chuka is so gooood! I do think Mirage is really fun too. Hope ArenaNet will give it some love
@@Laranity Me too :(
Yknow that makes sense I should’ve used chuka on mine, but I think when I unlocked I finished the Dreamer shortly after and she’s been shooting ponies since 😂 Chuka was my first and will always be special...I also like how the first two short bows got creature arrows and hope more classes get access
Mirage is my go to class for open world if i want to do solo stuff and just chill. I play full celestial staff/ dagger + pistol. It's very fun and it is basically impossible to die against anything that is not a legendary. If you don't know what you are doing dps might be a bit bad but otherwise it is easily among the best open world builds in my opinion. I really hope they at least buff it to a point where people won't think you are trolling when you join a group. xD
@@realityyy4047 condi mech and vin is also unkillable and kill way faster.
Very helpful, thanks!
Omg I love the video but what is the clothing you're using on the soulbeast part? Love the drip!
Me, thinking renegade is my favourite: >:(
Me, realising I spend way more time now on herald and vindicator: o_o
Best Class? WARRIOR OFCOURSE! HAMMER TIME!
GS/Hammer so old school I love it. Even though I love the axe auto attack, there's something brutal the way they hit the ennemis
Love how someone stepped in oil on your Deimos footage.
Lara putting druid in A tier is just wild to me
Lately I've noticed how New World has ripped off bosses from GuildWars 2, the flame naga, here is Neishataun in the Tempest instance in New World. There's another similar boss where you fight a giant statue on a platform that the statue is inside the middle. Last boss of Lazarus in new world. Kinda sad how MMO's rip off GW2 badly.
thanks for the Video was fun to watch, but i wish you also included the normal specs aswell, since some people also prefer the classes without an elite spec
3 minutes in and my main is S-tier, 10/10, 100% objective and accurate tier list, would recommend.
Elementalist always be S tier class!
Jokes aside, Tempest for me will be in S tier. As healer is harder to execute than other classes, but really straightforward. As for other classes (did not tried Engineer only), most of them are HoT for me as those very enjoyable. Rest is fine, is good, but I'm not enjoying them that much :p
I like this video; it lets me hear what other players feel is the best specs.
What are the armor pieces your Firebrand is wearing? Looks really good.
All your characters are so pretty and stylish! Love your style.
Puhh i think Harbinger tbh is so strong :O
Thief. Any thief. Just thief. A couple hours on a different character and i feel like im betraying my love.
WAKE UP BABE, A NEW LARANITY VIDEO
I’m looking to get into it, this does clarify some stuff.
Man it feels good to be a rev main now ❤ ppl used to look down on rev😂 im glad anet release vindi. It is soo much fun to play
Herald forever!
can you also do a tier list of professions with the easiest time finding groups? aka most sought after professions and builds. I have limited playtime and would be good to see which professions generally have an easier time finding a group. I'm guessing healing builds?
It's pretty simple. Boon heal first, boon dps second and dps last. Chrono probably. They have access to all 5 roles
1. I really like the difference equips you shows at the corner, really signify the differences of each elites.
2. why didnt you put Firebrand S tier? it got everything you need. it seems you focus more on higher burst dmg to give higher tier eh
3. ofcourse Untamed will not deal higher dmg than Soulbeast. its cuz your pet the one who will also help deal dmg
4. sad to see two thief specs are low tier. i get its not as flashy as other classes and its more solo-centric class but its still deal high dmg, no?
What version of herald you prefer? got mixed signals. i love it and just curious! I am excited for the healer pseudo buff and def wanna be tankier but already followed metabattle picking power quickness (which is fun still) but what you think!! i will get more ascended sets later so plan to have it all
If this video was "THE MOST SLIPPERY CLASS IN WORLD VS WORLD" it'd be easily the theif and its elite spec the daredevil
Mirage is getting new nerf on axe dps after the last update but the reality is people dont explore the class on all angle / possibility , they dont try hard they just want easy rotation for big dps , the gameplay of mirage is unique , put mirage in D tiers is completely crazy its a S tier far ahead :)
I hope they add unique buffing abilities to classes since everything has been watered down to make all classes viable in PvE content. Renegade is nice for this reason since a lot of its kit does unique things even if its niche in a lot of instances. My hope is that chrono gets this treatment since it doesn't really feel like the master of time anymore after giving alacrity to damn near every class in the game.
I’m digging Untamed but OMG the recommended rotations are so hard