agreed on necro swords. There's nothing I'm doing in game that requires min/maxing to a degree that overrides preference and frankly I don't see myself shooting for Cerus CM anytime soon so the swords stay.
Yeah same. That may not be tha absolute max DPS, but I just LOVE the mechanics of this weapon for my necro. It feels thematic, like the greatsword was. Much more than a scourge torch or these awful pistols for the harbinger.
Necromancer Sword (main hand) is so much fun. It feels like a nice grab bag of utility between the self healing and mobility offered by the double lunge. Plus, the slashes just go so rapidly. It's a lot of fun!
the staff for warrior was really the most surprising for me, its really great...also I adore the swords for necro, specially the offhand and the pistols for guardian are super fun and strong
I’m running dual mace and hammer untamed dps in open world and I just gotta say, the amount of cc and survivability that you can dish out is insane, outside of places with high damage I find I have a really hard time dying😂
Yes, finally being able to faceroll pve stuff on my ranger is more fun than I thought it would be. I even ran dagger axe on the other weapon slot because I used to run soulbeast. But lets be real, 90% of the time, you forget the other weapon set even exists since everything has such short cds plus you're running untamed. The only time I even died since putting on the maces was in the LWS2 quests where you get this fragile debuff that sets your hp to 1. And I've been testing out the relic of the deadeye since untamed gets cantrips. The uptime on that 10% extra damage is quite disgusting.
I've found that main Sword for necro is fantastic for WvW. It doesn't have the boon ripping and non-projectile ranged of Axe but it has mobility and good cleave on a ranged weapon. It's a pretty good choice for the mode especially since necro in WvW is notorious for being slow. I've also seen most warriors in WvW run staff for a more durable weapon build. It's really interesting in that game mode.
Great overview Lara! As an Ele main, I want to like the ele Pistol more than I do. On paper it seems great, but it practice it feels clunky and slow. I keep trying to get into the flow of it, but then find myself switching toons to play SS Condi reaper instead XD.
oh bet @pwk50 and @lorkano! I was bouncing between all 3 elite specs last week. Honestly, quick catalyst has felt the best to me, and it still feels like molasses.
@@ThrowingCrunchy i spent hours trying to figure out a rotation that foes nice dps and feels good on weaver (my fave spec of all) and I think unravel might be the key to that. Without unravel u are forced to sometimes use the weaker bullet spender or just drop dps by aa-ing, but Unravel makes ur rotation very smooth and makes so u ALWAYS can use the higher dmg bullet spender. I go fire fire -> earth fire -> earth earth -> air earth -> fire unravel -> water when unravel is still active -> fire water -> earth fire and repeat. Go into air only in weave self and then just skip it and circle water, fire and earth. Always using unravel on fire AFTER earth. This rotation is very dynamic and just feels good imo, been having a blast.
Pistol is growing on me but earth feels lackluster on it. The crowd control and buffs on water and air is suburb, and I do love a good dash, fire is of course meaty on the condis and there's some sweet ice field interactions for all elements when flipped from water. Also absolutely bonkers how many unique auras I can get at once with pistol and warhorn or tempest shouts. Still haven't tested it out on weaver since all my practiced weaver builds are crit/strike dmg, not condi. Probably would make catalyst a lot more fun for me too.
Thanks for the rundown! Appreciate the comment on the weapon skill art - I had no idea how much I cared about that until I tried the weapons out in the beta. It really makes a world of difference and the art is amazing
As for myself, i play a necro heal / dps scourge, swords really helps with mobility, and it's perfect for a power oriented build since you with the offhand you can have permanent alacrity, quickness, 25 power, and a bunch of boons in general. Along with the warhorn and the serpent skill, you have permanent barriers on your team, good ways top passively apply heals and a decent amount of damage for a healer. The only trick is managing your life force, since missing a fear skill or your 2 can get you in an uncomfortable position
For the single use portal mesmer rifle has, there at least is one super useful time for it. For those of us with a partner who also happens to be parkour inept a lot of times xD it makes me needing to be their pocket portal a lot easier
I'm in a similar situation as you. I crafted a second legendary pistol for the new guardian twin-pistols and in the end it's still better to use a torch lol. Oh well.
I tried engineer shortbow myself, went to dragon's stand to knock out several WV objectives at once including my 100 kills with it. Gotta say, from an open world perspective it's not nearly as bad as I was expecting. Especially on encounters where melee is restricted, (and often in those cases, mortar or grenade kits can't reach - think shadow behemoth just as one example,) this feels way better as a swap in than rifle - at least for boon dps setups.
I agree, I put it on my second team engineer and just bopped about getting 25-30 kills on the list and even solo it worked ok. I bet if I actually learned it it would be better yet.
This is what I've found, it feels great on Quickness Scrapper, you can upkeeps such a lot of boons while having a fairly good AoE alpha strike, and the ability to add damage from range. It's quickly replacing Power Rifle Mechanist for open world content. It has 2 Fields and 2 Blasts so works great alongside your other skills to combo.
@@TheRodentMastermind i haven´t even tried any boon-DPS build with shortbow, and what you say about its offensive capabilities actually surprises me. Shortbow has never been intended to be an offensive weapon, and its scaling isn´t really that good afaik. So i´m not really convinced that it´s the shortbow that really makes the difference here. Yes, it enables especially kinetic accellerators and generally anything related to blast-finishers a lot, but on the damage-side of things, the kits are what's doing the heavy lifting. So i believe that while SB working out fine (especially in open world) may be the case, i don´t think the reason for that is actually the shortbow itself, but rather the whole class around it
@@jurare89Oh definitely the ability to maintain 25 Might and Quickness is what makes it work. But it leans into that well, helping upkeep that, while allowing you to hit multiple targets at once. OFC you pair it with something like Grenades, Blast Gyro, Mine. Which means you can constantly cycle through AoE attacks from you kit, your Utilities, the Bow and your Toolbelt, you rarely need to spend much time using the auto attack. It's also got 2 abilities that proc Relic of Fireworks which makes it very easy to upkeep that too.
I personally love the new necromancer swords as the range weapon for support scourge. They feel so much better to use then the staff or the axe and still allow you to do your healing suff, while turning yourself insanly tanky trough the boost on the self heal. And because they are ranged, unlike the dagger, it is pretty easy to just stay outside of the danger zone and pull others to you to revive them.
Yeah im having too much fun with my dual sword reaper so they're staying, im not doing super hard content that require optimal builds, just having fun playing
Haven't played in a while, so this was a perfect summary. I wasn't interested in Mesmer Rifle at all, but you've got me very interested in trying it in a support Chrono build.
I've been running the sword on my support Scourge. The added mobility and easy lifeforce gain outweighs the loss of dagger 3's boon removal + immobilise for most fights.
the big problem with wars new staff is it will get nerfed, its very strong compared to other classes and their weapons, problem with that is its on war who have a lot of issues the proffesion feeling outdated or cluncky to play, and the worst issue Anet openly admit in devstreams they have no vission for warrior, any time they get to a war segment all of them just look blank and like they have never seen the class before or a "oh right this proff exists woops we forgot about it again" -.- even bladeswarn feels like it was made for enginier but they couldnt decided between mechanist or bladeswarn but as they didnt have anything for war decided to add it to them instead of making something actualy for them like I dont know a suport "monk" eliet spec which has been asked for since we first got eliet specs -.- the class feels unloved or just uterly forgotten with quolity of life other classses get not being given t them becuase "oh right war exist woops we forgot" T.T
Man this is how I’ve felt for years and I don’t know why I punish myself with War. We’ve been asking for a decade to rework the class so discipline wasn’t mandatory for the class to feel fluid and enjoyable. By default we should have run speed and weapon swap. Our “core mechanic” as warriors is adrenaline lol. Been playing more Mesmer, thief, rev and ele. Need to give engi elite specs a shot, just need to sit down and finish those HP’s. I’ve effectively given up my main. Haven’t tried the stick yet. Maybe that will breath life into the class, outside what I consider it’s more primary identity. Berserker is still the only spec that feels warrior to me. As in throwing people around and hacking limbs off, despite Anet even screwing this up.
s/s power reaper & scourge (even condi scourge) are SO fun compared to (maybe slightly) higher dps GS or dagger/torch. shroud & lifeforce are easy to mitigate the life drain abilities if you pay attention. i just love how much ranged dps you can do & how fast they build lifeforce and shroud, which are where the real necro's power is anyway
Yea I'm on the same boat. I realize dagger does more damage, but when I'm running around especially doing open world stuff sword/sword feels fantastic, you have the range, cleave, mobility and the damage isn't even that terrible, problem is a lot of min/maxers always have tunnel vision and they only see damage as the main thing to look for.
@@victorsoto4821 doing events & rifts in SOTO, the mobility is so much better than pure DPS. then you can just get into reaper or scourge melee & dodge back out.
Staff Bladesworn feels awesome -- the staff hits sufficiently hard, the burst healing and buffing is appreciated, and I can always switch to Dragon Trigger for CC and lethal damage. Makes soloing champs a breeze!
Totally agree about the ranger maces. I was completely disinterested in them when they announced them, but now I've played with them, they have completely reignited my love for ranger lol. I've been running them on untamed in open world/meta events with a hammer with the quickness traits and the relic of the midnight king, and I absolutely love the playstyle and how smoothly everything flows. Expecting big nerfs in a couple of weeks though unfortunately, but hopefully they don't do the usual ANet sledgehammer nerf and make them basically unusable outside of specific situations, because I'm loving them as an open world weapon set.
Just tried dual pistols on my guardian tonight. Kinda fun, but the range isn't as good as longbow 2. Staff warrior looks SO fun to play! Think I'll try that one next.
I haven't been able to play since post-EoD due to my pc getting to the end of its life, but I'm kinda okay with that seeing how much new stuff I have to catch up on once I can get a new one. Great video as ever Lara ❤
I will say that most of the new weapons just look cool and fun from what little I've tried! I was a little worried about pistol guard but I am very happy with what we got. Most issues on the underpowered ones just seem to be an issue with number tuning, so hopefully next balance patch will bring these in line with the rest of weapon sets.
I think she didnt mention it cuz this mechanic, unfortunately, doesn't really have a lot of uses. U can pre-stack the bullets before the fight and then use it once it begins, but otherwise it's not really worth doing. I hope they Anet does something about it.
if i need to pump dps on my necro ill go condi scg, for open world however i swapped my cele harbi for a cele reaper with swords and horn on swap, comfy build using pretty much auto attack only no need for shroud unless defensively for extra hp bar, perma quick, might, fury, regen, vuln and roughly 16k dps self buffed, perfect for metas and stuff
I LOVE dual sword necro. I don't care if there's a dip in power, they're just too much fun to put down. I've tried Guardian pistols but I don't think I've been playing them right because I felt underpowered and found them difficult to use. It could just be that I wasn't pairing them with the correct build.
Regarding Thief Axe, our boy Phandrel released a Power Deadeye build for open world that's really fun. It doesn't feel that good in single target fightts, don't use it in instanced content, but it's really satisfying for Metas or farming or whatever. Even HoT Hero Points pretty much melt, but it's easier if you let Thieves Guild tank some of the damage. (Edit: for anyone who wants to try the Critical Strikes version of the build, definitely switch out the condi cleanse signet for Mercy)
If they would have cared more about the execution of the new story episodes it would have been really nice. The „Siege“ felt underwhelming with just the general and my character 😂
Actually, main hand sword on necro might be a dps increase in real fights. You lose burst from dagger, but the ranged attacks and the ability to be at the boss's nose after every split means higher dps uptime. in Xunlai Junkyard, for example, now i am always the first guy to get to the boss. Same with harvest temple after the chomp and every split. Does it compensate the loss of dagger #2? Hard to say until we have arcdps working again.
The 5 on Guardian pistol really needs a redisgn. Even the 2nd stage can pass over the enemi you're aiming at and not do any damage. The rest is pretty enjoyable. I didn't like the elementalist pistol. I find it slow and not engaging. But I'll have to give it a try again later. I play the double sword necro with a leech-life build, and omg this is so fun to play. I run around in open world pve, with pretty decent damage and very good surviviability. I would not do great as a dps on a group content, but for open world, I'm enjoying it a lot.
I feel like there are a lot of mechanics on the buff bar that are currently really hard to see. I think arenanet needs to rework the buff bar to not be so cluttered in the future. Maybe a lot of sigil, food, banner, and other longer effects could be moved else where?
I've played mostly engi in my time playing gw2 and I am giga-snoozing regarding shortbow as it currently is. Imo they should have either just added a toggle to mortar that does that stuff and have the shortbow do something else, or just have the shortbow be more.. active? Not the right word but idk, I don't really like necro staff either for a similar reason.
I’ve wanted gun mage for ages for Elementalist. I expected Guardian pistols, instead what got Engi pistol…. Elementalist design has been lacklustre for a while now.
I do enjoy playing the healer in MMOs in general and it's almost always my first choice but the chronomancer is just way too much clicking and cooldown-management that I couldn't wrap my head around it. If one plays a mesmer most of the time that might not be the biggest problem but after I wanted to try a new healing-alternative after spending too much time on my ranger and especially the druid specialization the difference in gameplay hit me extremely hard.
in general i like the new weapons, what grind my gears is the recicled animations all over the place, but the change on gameplay is welcome oh one thing, A-net should really look into the UI , charge markers like pistol ele, or thief axe are imposible to read at time with all the buff moving and shuffling around, , and adding to it, in genereal players uses the smaller UI settings :/, they need to either Re-vamp it, or revise it
Heal bladesworn is really good because of Lush Forest and feels better than healzerker to me because adrenaline/flow isn't an issue. However, there are some feelsweirdman things about it. There's 0 reason to use a fully charged dragon trigger for alac/soldier's focus, so I think they should change daring dragon to give an incentive for fully charging it like barrier per charge or just move alac to immortal dragon and make it aoe heals/prot. And you are forced to use gunsaber after a dragon trigger for a few seconds. The gunsaber skills can be used to proc lush forest, but there's no support for the few seconds you're using it other than your shouts/banners. If they gave gunsaber support via traits like make swift as the wind aoe (we lost group swiftness without warhorn) or unshakable mountain aoe it'd be a lot better. So basically things just need moved around or made aoe to make healsworn good. I don't want them to remove alac from bladesworn to put it on spellbreaker, because other than power dps that's all bladesworn has going for it. Instead I think it would be cool to have alac AND quick on spellbreaker as a choice similar to chronomancer.
I play Weaver Pistol. The Pistol Dual Attack skills can have up to two additional effects based on whether you have the corresponding bullets. So if you go 2 - switch element 2 - 3 you can have both, but the Dual Attacks don't generate bullets of their own. Even then, when you combine your Pistol 3 having four different options per elemental combination (six in total, with four options each) with the four basic options where you can use them with or without their bullet effects (so four times two options more), means that Weaver Pistol 3 has 32 different options available to it. That is more options that certain builds have in total. Sure it's an absolute Moonlight Sonata to play, but I would not have it any other way.
I definitely gotta give Weaver pistol a try too! So far, I've mostly stuck to Tempest, to try to not overwhelm myself with a million new skills- but I'm definitely gonna give it a try soon!
they do generate if you dont have a bullet, the way that works feels like a bug, in the ocasion that you have an off hand bullet and have no main hand bullet you consume the bullet and dont generate, if you dont have an off hand bullet and use it you generate, if you have both you consume, basically you cant generate and consume a different bullet at the same time, you can only consume or only generate, this makes sense for all other specs but not for weaver, its a dual attack after all, its weird
Staff on warrior is really good.. The staff itself feels amazing. The problem is.. The warrior.. lol So many fundamental problems, trait problems, main mechanic problems ( adrenaline). Warrior is just left behind in 2012 while all other classes have moved on.. lol
imagine beeing unable to spell the letter L und constantly switch it with D ....like who are those headers doing all that heading? is it readdy that good?
I hope anet will give a second usability to some of the new weapons: revenant scepter -> more strike damage + skill 3 as upkeep skill again like in the beta for aoe boons and aoe damage thief axe -> skill 3 with pistol offhand should do aoe strike damage (like the shortbow as ranged aoe condition damage weapon / it can't and shouldn't be a rival to the rifle as ranged piercing strike damage weapon) engineer shortbow -> should get conditions back like in the beta and do condition damage (like all the other shortbow skill sets at other professions) mesmer rifle -> more strike damage (but it should stay weaker than the greatsword) and balancing the weapons better with the next patch guardian pistol mainhand -> too strong (too much deadly burning) ranger maces -> too strong (nature strengh buff nail it) elementalist pistol -> to complicated with the bullet buffs
i know there's a lot of buzz for alac spellbreaker and sure (better than alac scourge LMAO) but the class fantasy (TO ME) always sounded less suport-y and more warrior unga bunga but with a bit more brain now also for what I run on my necro I would 100% mobility over some damage I barely feel (I run zerging wvw and open world mostly so...)
agreed. Definitely the weapon I keep coming back to master...but ya there's still a lot of guess work with deployed axes. the GW2 UI is really starting to show it's age with this update
You and me both on that scepter. It's uh, not very good. It's fun! but kinda terrible. Way too clunky on 2 and 3 and the auto is amazing cleave but not enough on its own to want to use.
all new weapons are raw...2 types of weapons, breaking completely like a war staff whose auto attack hits 3k meters on 5 targets,and the terrible scepter of the revenant which is only for one game mod pve and all the mechanics are clattering auto attacks, it took them 1 year to make a new auto attack on 3 targets.Bravo
Fun fact: Warriors is not the "dumb"/barbaric, direct, brainless, easy-to-play class like other games. Okay, they're not that complex. Could we classify it as medium difficult, perhaps? The guardians, however... damn, they have super easy builds. These pistols were made for lazy people. I loved!!
I feel these weapons have been very well received, much better than the EOD ones for example! My current favorites: Condi Willbender Pistol/Torch: I like this because there are actually some good condies on pistol, not only "proc you're f1 as many times as possible" Power Soulbeast double Maces: Unga Bunga, need I say more? I haven't tried thief axe but it seems really fun also!
I wanted to like Thief AXE, but i was mostly on Specter...i just can't .... it's not my style...so i made the Astralaria and went back to my Condi Willbender xD The PISTOLS ARE AWESOME XD
@@Laranity it is ! I somehow always go back to my Guardian :) it was my first class in back in the day ( beta ) and i started the live game with Guardian too. Throughout the years i've had Ranger and Engineer and later Thief, but always went back to Guardian! I just love it! Willbender is just fun to play!
like guardian wasn't strong enaugh already...dont get me wron i love my guard but now with we were omnipotent previousely but now we can BULLETS GO BRRR? i dont see a god up here OTHER THAN ME! haha also heal zerker is basically an angry man with a stick bonking peaple back on their feet XD.man litterally TOO ANGRY TO DIE!
Your complaints about Elementalist Pistol actually just echo criticism I have about GW2 as a whole: the UI has zero customizability, and is very poorly designed for rapid information access. All of the information is clumped at the bottom of the screen, away from where your character is, and the opposite side of the screen from your target's information. The icons for buffs and debuffs are not especially easy to differentiate at a glance, are quite small versus the scale of other UI elements, and have no way of filtering or preferencing them. The things you need _the most_ rapid glance access to, your skill bars and your class UI effects, cannot be moved from the bottom of the screen, and that information is spread across literally half of the width of the screen. As an example, if I'm playing literally any Revenant build, I need to keep not only a close eye on my individual weapon abilities, my legend F abilities, but also my energy bar, my legend swap CD, and my weapon swap CD. If playing Vindicator, I also need to keep on my endurance bar and the buff from dodging. All of that information, fortunately, is concentrated in a relatively small area on the left of the bar, but it means that if I'm trying to watch my _character_ as well, to ensure I'm not standing in bad stuff, or watching an enemy (or multiple) for dangerous telegraphs, my eyes are constantly having to pop up and down across ~15-20 degrees of angle to see my target, my character, and my hotbars. And since GW2 lacks a global cooldown, I can't even really do that on a regular pace or anything, I have to be doing it constantly. Other classes are even worse about this. Condi Virtuoso, I need to be keeping track of my blades to cast my bladesongs, and also which bladesongs are off cooldown at the time. My blade income, while technically deterministic (via phantasm to clones, and bleed stacks from my own crits, phantasm attacks, and glyphs), insofar as there isn't any RNG involved (if at 100% crit with fury), _feels_ spikey and somewhat random, so I have to be keeping a constant eye on those little pips of my blades, and my bladesong CDs, while also keeping an eye on 1-2 utility effects, usually my heal for phantasm reset, any my weapon swap CD. Basically, there's a LOT of information I have to keep track of, for any class, all of it spread across the very bottom of the screen, far from where my character and my target(s) and my target's buffs/debuffs are. GW2 desperately needs the ability to customize the UI, to move, scale, hide, or tweak each element of it individually. Having come from a background of largely WoW and FFXIV over the past couple decades, the complete lack of combat UI adjustment (and the poor state of the base UI for rapid information scanning) is, imo, the _most_ crippling aspect of GW2's combat.
agreed on necro swords. There's nothing I'm doing in game that requires min/maxing to a degree that overrides preference and frankly I don't see myself shooting for Cerus CM anytime soon so the swords stay.
Yeah same. That may not be tha absolute max DPS, but I just LOVE the mechanics of this weapon for my necro. It feels thematic, like the greatsword was. Much more than a scourge torch or these awful pistols for the harbinger.
So many people agree that Alac Spellbreaker makes way more sense. I really hope ArenaNet will hear it
Yeaaa I really hope that it will be a thing someday!
Praying for this as well. It gives spell breaker a place in PVE and Bladesworn can focus on doing damage like it should be.
It definitely makes more sense but for now I am curious to try staff bladesworn
@@eligore6908Is it just me or does Bladesworn feel bad to play compared to a dps power zerkerthough?
they will hear it all right for a couple months then unhear it😂 once again as the forums 😢 tears begin to unravel
10:50 - I like this. It's a game after all. The most important aspect of the game is to have fun.
To run where cube standing!
Necromancer Sword (main hand) is so much fun. It feels like a nice grab bag of utility between the self healing and mobility offered by the double lunge. Plus, the slashes just go so rapidly. It's a lot of fun!
the staff for warrior was really the most surprising for me, its really great...also I adore the swords for necro, specially the offhand and the pistols for guardian are super fun and strong
I’m running dual mace and hammer untamed dps in open world and I just gotta say, the amount of cc and survivability that you can dish out is insane, outside of places with high damage I find I have a really hard time dying😂
That's my experience too...I'm a really crap player but that is so enjoyable.
Yes, finally being able to faceroll pve stuff on my ranger is more fun than I thought it would be. I even ran dagger axe on the other weapon slot because I used to run soulbeast. But lets be real, 90% of the time, you forget the other weapon set even exists since everything has such short cds plus you're running untamed. The only time I even died since putting on the maces was in the LWS2 quests where you get this fragile debuff that sets your hp to 1. And I've been testing out the relic of the deadeye since untamed gets cantrips. The uptime on that 10% extra damage is quite disgusting.
I was quiting the game until the launch of Mace/Mace Ranger... having a lot of fun!
SC site’s editor for Thief pages here. Loved your explanation of Axe on Deadeye, accurate and succinct!
I've found that main Sword for necro is fantastic for WvW. It doesn't have the boon ripping and non-projectile ranged of Axe but it has mobility and good cleave on a ranged weapon. It's a pretty good choice for the mode especially since necro in WvW is notorious for being slow.
I've also seen most warriors in WvW run staff for a more durable weapon build. It's really interesting in that game mode.
Use the unblock shout as reaper and watch your 1 cleave through everything. My main range weapon on necro as staff was so lackluster >
Great overview Lara! As an Ele main, I want to like the ele Pistol more than I do. On paper it seems great, but it practice it feels clunky and slow. I keep trying to get into the flow of it, but then find myself switching toons to play SS Condi reaper instead XD.
Try weaver with unravel. Trust.
They are even harder to play with than Hammer catalyst
oh bet @pwk50 and @lorkano! I was bouncing between all 3 elite specs last week. Honestly, quick catalyst has felt the best to me, and it still feels like molasses.
@@ThrowingCrunchy i spent hours trying to figure out a rotation that foes nice dps and feels good on weaver (my fave spec of all) and I think unravel might be the key to that. Without unravel u are forced to sometimes use the weaker bullet spender or just drop dps by aa-ing, but Unravel makes ur rotation very smooth and makes so u ALWAYS can use the higher dmg bullet spender. I go fire fire -> earth fire -> earth earth -> air earth -> fire unravel -> water when unravel is still active -> fire water -> earth fire and repeat. Go into air only in weave self and then just skip it and circle water, fire and earth. Always using unravel on fire AFTER earth. This rotation is very dynamic and just feels good imo, been having a blast.
@@pwk50 Are you incorporating the big quad ele bullet into the rot? It's an interesting mechanic, but it feels less impactful than Grand Finale.
Pistol is growing on me but earth feels lackluster on it. The crowd control and buffs on water and air is suburb, and I do love a good dash, fire is of course meaty on the condis and there's some sweet ice field interactions for all elements when flipped from water. Also absolutely bonkers how many unique auras I can get at once with pistol and warhorn or tempest shouts. Still haven't tested it out on weaver since all my practiced weaver builds are crit/strike dmg, not condi. Probably would make catalyst a lot more fun for me too.
Thanks for the rundown! Appreciate the comment on the weapon skill art - I had no idea how much I cared about that until I tried the weapons out in the beta. It really makes a world of difference and the art is amazing
warrior staff looks like so much fun, i cant wait to try it
It's sooo fun, you should really try it!
As for myself, i play a necro heal / dps scourge, swords really helps with mobility, and it's perfect for a power oriented build since you with the offhand you can have permanent alacrity, quickness, 25 power, and a bunch of boons in general.
Along with the warhorn and the serpent skill, you have permanent barriers on your team, good ways top passively apply heals and a decent amount of damage for a healer.
The only trick is managing your life force, since missing a fear skill or your 2 can get you in an uncomfortable position
For the single use portal mesmer rifle has, there at least is one super useful time for it. For those of us with a partner who also happens to be parkour inept a lot of times xD it makes me needing to be their pocket portal a lot easier
I'm in a similar situation as you. I crafted a second legendary pistol for the new guardian twin-pistols and in the end it's still better to use a torch lol. Oh well.
I tried engineer shortbow myself, went to dragon's stand to knock out several WV objectives at once including my 100 kills with it. Gotta say, from an open world perspective it's not nearly as bad as I was expecting. Especially on encounters where melee is restricted, (and often in those cases, mortar or grenade kits can't reach - think shadow behemoth just as one example,) this feels way better as a swap in than rifle - at least for boon dps setups.
I agree, I put it on my second team engineer and just bopped about getting 25-30 kills on the list and even solo it worked ok. I bet if I actually learned it it would be better yet.
This is what I've found, it feels great on Quickness Scrapper, you can upkeeps such a lot of boons while having a fairly good AoE alpha strike, and the ability to add damage from range. It's quickly replacing Power Rifle Mechanist for open world content.
It has 2 Fields and 2 Blasts so works great alongside your other skills to combo.
@@TheRodentMastermind i haven´t even tried any boon-DPS build with shortbow, and what you say about its offensive capabilities actually surprises me. Shortbow has never been intended to be an offensive weapon, and its scaling isn´t really that good afaik. So i´m not really convinced that it´s the shortbow that really makes the difference here. Yes, it enables especially kinetic accellerators and generally anything related to blast-finishers a lot, but on the damage-side of things, the kits are what's doing the heavy lifting. So i believe that while SB working out fine (especially in open world) may be the case, i don´t think the reason for that is actually the shortbow itself, but rather the whole class around it
@@jurare89Oh definitely the ability to maintain 25 Might and Quickness is what makes it work. But it leans into that well, helping upkeep that, while allowing you to hit multiple targets at once.
OFC you pair it with something like Grenades, Blast Gyro, Mine. Which means you can constantly cycle through AoE attacks from you kit, your Utilities, the Bow and your Toolbelt, you rarely need to spend much time using the auto attack. It's also got 2 abilities that proc Relic of Fireworks which makes it very easy to upkeep that too.
I personally love the new necromancer swords as the range weapon for support scourge. They feel so much better to use then the staff or the axe and still allow you to do your healing suff, while turning yourself insanly tanky trough the boost on the self heal.
And because they are ranged, unlike the dagger, it is pretty easy to just stay outside of the danger zone and pull others to you to revive them.
Yeah im having too much fun with my dual sword reaper so they're staying, im not doing super hard content that require optimal builds, just having fun playing
Really appreciate the video. I don't play that many other classes but this makes me want to branch out a bit.
Dual Necro Sword was what finally convinced me to get the Zhaitan skin for my Aurene legendary sword. The undead vibe was even better than I thought!
They should atleast change the colour for Necro Sword waves if using a legendary.
With necrosword, it makes sense with the damage trade off. That is a ranged weapon and would make a lot of encounters easier on that alone
Haven't played in a while, so this was a perfect summary.
I wasn't interested in Mesmer Rifle at all, but you've got me very interested in trying it in a support Chrono build.
I've been running the sword on my support Scourge. The added mobility and easy lifeforce gain outweighs the loss of dagger 3's boon removal + immobilise for most fights.
the big problem with wars new staff is it will get nerfed, its very strong compared to other classes and their weapons, problem with that is its on war who have a lot of issues the proffesion feeling outdated or cluncky to play, and the worst issue Anet openly admit in devstreams they have no vission for warrior, any time they get to a war segment all of them just look blank and like they have never seen the class before or a "oh right this proff exists woops we forgot about it again" -.-
even bladeswarn feels like it was made for enginier but they couldnt decided between mechanist or bladeswarn but as they didnt have anything for war decided to add it to them instead of making something actualy for them like I dont know a suport "monk" eliet spec which has been asked for since we first got eliet specs -.-
the class feels unloved or just uterly forgotten with quolity of life other classses get not being given t them becuase "oh right war exist woops we forgot" T.T
Man this is how I’ve felt for years and I don’t know why I punish myself with War.
We’ve been asking for a decade to rework the class so discipline wasn’t mandatory for the class to feel fluid and enjoyable. By default we should have run speed and weapon swap. Our “core mechanic” as warriors is adrenaline lol.
Been playing more Mesmer, thief, rev and ele. Need to give engi elite specs a shot, just need to sit down and finish those HP’s. I’ve effectively given up my main.
Haven’t tried the stick yet. Maybe that will breath life into the class, outside what I consider it’s more primary identity. Berserker is still the only spec that feels warrior to me. As in throwing people around and hacking limbs off, despite Anet even screwing this up.
s/s power reaper & scourge (even condi scourge) are SO fun compared to (maybe slightly) higher dps GS or dagger/torch. shroud & lifeforce are easy to mitigate the life drain abilities if you pay attention. i just love how much ranged dps you can do & how fast they build lifeforce and shroud, which are where the real necro's power is anyway
100% agree!
Yea I'm on the same boat. I realize dagger does more damage, but when I'm running around especially doing open world stuff sword/sword feels fantastic, you have the range, cleave, mobility and the damage isn't even that terrible, problem is a lot of min/maxers always have tunnel vision and they only see damage as the main thing to look for.
@@victorsoto4821 doing events & rifts in SOTO, the mobility is so much better than pure DPS. then you can just get into reaper or scourge melee & dodge back out.
Staff Bladesworn feels awesome -- the staff hits sufficiently hard, the burst healing and buffing is appreciated, and I can always switch to Dragon Trigger for CC and lethal damage. Makes soloing champs a breeze!
1 place i found mesmer teleport to be useful is at the matthias poison for class that dont take blink. less travel time for them to get back to group
Totally agree about the ranger maces. I was completely disinterested in them when they announced them, but now I've played with them, they have completely reignited my love for ranger lol. I've been running them on untamed in open world/meta events with a hammer with the quickness traits and the relic of the midnight king, and I absolutely love the playstyle and how smoothly everything flows.
Expecting big nerfs in a couple of weeks though unfortunately, but hopefully they don't do the usual ANet sledgehammer nerf and make them basically unusable outside of specific situations, because I'm loving them as an open world weapon set.
love this.
my top 3 new weapons are Necro swords, Ranger maces and Mesmer rifle.
Just tried dual pistols on my guardian tonight. Kinda fun, but the range isn't as good as longbow 2. Staff warrior looks SO fun to play! Think I'll try that one next.
I haven't been able to play since post-EoD due to my pc getting to the end of its life, but I'm kinda okay with that seeing how much new stuff I have to catch up on once I can get a new one. Great video as ever Lara ❤
I will say that most of the new weapons just look cool and fun from what little I've tried! I was a little worried about pistol guard but I am very happy with what we got. Most issues on the underpowered ones just seem to be an issue with number tuning, so hopefully next balance patch will bring these in line with the rest of weapon sets.
8:40 - Also when you have all 4 elemental bullets loaded your 1 skill changes to a new skill that uses all of these bullets and has lots of effects
I think she didnt mention it cuz this mechanic, unfortunately, doesn't really have a lot of uses. U can pre-stack the bullets before the fight and then use it once it begins, but otherwise it's not really worth doing. I hope they Anet does something about it.
I’ve only tried out the Ranger Maces (Ranger is my Main), and it’s definitely an aesthetic, but it’s not really *my* aesthetic.
if i need to pump dps on my necro ill go condi scg, for open world however i swapped my cele harbi for a cele reaper with swords and horn on swap, comfy build using pretty much auto attack only no need for shroud unless defensively for extra hp bar, perma quick, might, fury, regen, vuln and roughly 16k dps self buffed, perfect for metas and stuff
A fine addition to the (video) collection
Heal Berserker with Staff is AMAZING
Lara, you should try Core Guardian, Burn build.
Longbow + Pistol/torch
Absolutely oppressive. And so much fun.
I LOVE dual sword necro. I don't care if there's a dip in power, they're just too much fun to put down. I've tried Guardian pistols but I don't think I've been playing them right because I felt underpowered and found them difficult to use. It could just be that I wasn't pairing them with the correct build.
I use the dual swords for a condi reaper build and tend to melt enemies pretty fast so far.
Regarding Thief Axe, our boy Phandrel released a Power Deadeye build for open world that's really fun. It doesn't feel that good in single target fightts, don't use it in instanced content, but it's really satisfying for Metas or farming or whatever. Even HoT Hero Points pretty much melt, but it's easier if you let Thieves Guild tank some of the damage. (Edit: for anyone who wants to try the Critical Strikes version of the build, definitely switch out the condi cleanse signet for Mercy)
If they would have cared more about the execution of the new story episodes it would have been really nice. The „Siege“ felt underwhelming with just the general and my character 😂
Actually, main hand sword on necro might be a dps increase in real fights. You lose burst from dagger, but the ranged attacks and the ability to be at the boss's nose after every split means higher dps uptime. in Xunlai Junkyard, for example, now i am always the first guy to get to the boss. Same with harvest temple after the chomp and every split. Does it compensate the loss of dagger #2? Hard to say until we have arcdps working again.
5:30 anyone know what those scepter and shield skins are? Look so cool!
The 5 on Guardian pistol really needs a redisgn. Even the 2nd stage can pass over the enemi you're aiming at and not do any damage. The rest is pretty enjoyable.
I didn't like the elementalist pistol. I find it slow and not engaging. But I'll have to give it a try again later.
I play the double sword necro with a leech-life build, and omg this is so fun to play. I run around in open world pve, with pretty decent damage and very good surviviability. I would not do great as a dps on a group content, but for open world, I'm enjoying it a lot.
I feel like there are a lot of mechanics on the buff bar that are currently really hard to see. I think arenanet needs to rework the buff bar to not be so cluttered in the future. Maybe a lot of sigil, food, banner, and other longer effects could be moved else where?
I've played mostly engi in my time playing gw2 and I am giga-snoozing regarding shortbow as it currently is. Imo they should have either just added a toggle to mortar that does that stuff and have the shortbow do something else, or just have the shortbow be more.. active? Not the right word but idk, I don't really like necro staff either for a similar reason.
what i mostly remembered is that the new thief weapons have high axepectations
I’ve wanted gun mage for ages for Elementalist. I expected Guardian pistols, instead what got Engi pistol….
Elementalist design has been lacklustre for a while now.
I do enjoy playing the healer in MMOs in general and it's almost always my first choice but the chronomancer is just way too much clicking and cooldown-management that I couldn't wrap my head around it.
If one plays a mesmer most of the time that might not be the biggest problem but after I wanted to try a new healing-alternative after spending too much time on my ranger and especially the druid specialization the difference in gameplay hit me extremely hard.
in general i like the new weapons, what grind my gears is the recicled animations all over the place, but the change on gameplay is welcome
oh one thing, A-net should really look into the UI , charge markers like pistol ele, or thief axe are imposible to read at time with all the buff moving and shuffling around, , and adding to it, in genereal players uses the smaller UI settings :/, they need to either Re-vamp it, or revise it
Heal bladesworn is really good because of Lush Forest and feels better than healzerker to me because adrenaline/flow isn't an issue. However, there are some feelsweirdman things about it. There's 0 reason to use a fully charged dragon trigger for alac/soldier's focus, so I think they should change daring dragon to give an incentive for fully charging it like barrier per charge or just move alac to immortal dragon and make it aoe heals/prot. And you are forced to use gunsaber after a dragon trigger for a few seconds. The gunsaber skills can be used to proc lush forest, but there's no support for the few seconds you're using it other than your shouts/banners. If they gave gunsaber support via traits like make swift as the wind aoe (we lost group swiftness without warhorn) or unshakable mountain aoe it'd be a lot better. So basically things just need moved around or made aoe to make healsworn good. I don't want them to remove alac from bladesworn to put it on spellbreaker, because other than power dps that's all bladesworn has going for it. Instead I think it would be cool to have alac AND quick on spellbreaker as a choice similar to chronomancer.
Laranity video! yay!
may i ask what cosmetics you are using?
they look majestic
I wish GW2 had a better mechanic HUD for classes
Yeah, after years of complaints you think arenanet would make it so we could move our buffs/de buffs... Maybe some day! Haha.
Honestly even if they added ALL the boons to engie shortbow it just isn't a fun weapon to play imo.
I play Weaver Pistol. The Pistol Dual Attack skills can have up to two additional effects based on whether you have the corresponding bullets. So if you go 2 - switch element 2 - 3 you can have both, but the Dual Attacks don't generate bullets of their own. Even then, when you combine your Pistol 3 having four different options per elemental combination (six in total, with four options each) with the four basic options where you can use them with or without their bullet effects (so four times two options more), means that Weaver Pistol 3 has 32 different options available to it. That is more options that certain builds have in total. Sure it's an absolute Moonlight Sonata to play, but I would not have it any other way.
I definitely gotta give Weaver pistol a try too! So far, I've mostly stuck to Tempest, to try to not overwhelm myself with a million new skills- but I'm definitely gonna give it a try soon!
they do generate if you dont have a bullet, the way that works feels like a bug, in the ocasion that you have an off hand bullet and have no main hand bullet you consume the bullet and dont generate, if you dont have an off hand bullet and use it you generate, if you have both you consume, basically you cant generate and consume a different bullet at the same time, you can only consume or only generate, this makes sense for all other specs but not for weaver, its a dual attack after all, its weird
Pistols for Guardian is now best in slot for condi and celestial builds. Others are either side-grades or downgrades.
Staff on warrior is really good.. The staff itself feels amazing.
The problem is.. The warrior.. lol
So many fundamental problems, trait problems, main mechanic problems ( adrenaline).
Warrior is just left behind in 2012 while all other classes have moved on.. lol
imagine beeing unable to spell the letter L und constantly switch it with D ....like who are those headers doing all that heading? is it readdy that good?
amazing video lara, i forgot how good this game is
I hope anet will give a second usability to some of the new weapons:
revenant scepter -> more strike damage + skill 3 as upkeep skill again like in the beta for aoe boons and aoe damage
thief axe -> skill 3 with pistol offhand should do aoe strike damage (like the shortbow as ranged aoe condition damage weapon / it can't and shouldn't be a rival to the rifle as ranged piercing strike damage weapon)
engineer shortbow -> should get conditions back like in the beta and do condition damage (like all the other shortbow skill sets at other professions)
mesmer rifle -> more strike damage (but it should stay weaker than the greatsword)
and balancing the weapons better with the next patch
guardian pistol mainhand -> too strong (too much deadly burning)
ranger maces -> too strong (nature strengh buff nail it)
elementalist pistol -> to complicated with the bullet buffs
Ele has something difficult to do? Shocker! Its never been like tht and here it is again!
Feel sad for engi , even now mace still better in support with shorter cd shield vigor regen(more shield also mean more uptime alac for mech)
As a Mirage enjoyer I'm disappointed, I can only hope we will get long bow someday in the FutureTM for the power dps build.
I'm happy mesmer has a heal option. But im sad that i dont like healing :(.
Skill 5 port works to port allies across Xera xD (on memer)
What is the shoulder skin on guardian? 4:46 its so sick
i know there's a lot of buzz for alac spellbreaker and sure (better than alac scourge LMAO) but the class fantasy (TO ME) always sounded less suport-y and more warrior unga bunga but with a bit more brain now
also for what I run on my necro I would 100% mobility over some damage I barely feel (I run zerging wvw and open world mostly so...)
What are the armor skins @ 3:18
Warlords apparently
Thief axes are one of most fun new weapons but sadly also with worst visuals. I hope they fix that.
agreed. Definitely the weapon I keep coming back to master...but ya there's still a lot of guess work with deployed axes. the GW2 UI is really starting to show it's age with this update
You and me both on that scepter. It's uh, not very good. It's fun! but kinda terrible. Way too clunky on 2 and 3 and the auto is amazing cleave but not enough on its own to want to use.
How did you make your hair 2 tone like that?
Now for the sPvP perspective:
Staff Warrior: meh
Scepter Revenant: meh
Pistol Guardian: meh
Mace Ranger: not bad
Axe thief: kinda busted
Short bow engineer: super meh
Pistol Elementalist: mid
Sword Necromancer: meh
Rifle Mesmer: meh meh
Hopefully they add spear to normal combat one day
all new weapons are raw...2 types of weapons, breaking completely like a war staff whose auto attack hits 3k meters on 5 targets,and the terrible scepter of the revenant which is only for one game mod pve and all the mechanics are clattering auto attacks, it took them 1 year to make a new auto attack on 3 targets.Bravo
Pvp wise the staff for warrior is just bonkers, reflects and cancels a warrior can be the cc master
Im still waiting for the day where thief can dual swords
ah okay i undeerstand now thx i youst was wery confused why i lost my bosheit after using axt trhe bout now i know thx
2nd elementalist weapon that sucks ina row, I hope third will be mace/mace or offhand sword ...
i love how clueless the Devs are when it comes to the Rev class, A tale as old as time.
Fun fact: Warriors is not the "dumb"/barbaric, direct, brainless, easy-to-play class like other games. Okay, they're not that complex. Could we classify it as medium difficult, perhaps?
The guardians, however... damn, they have super easy builds. These pistols were made for lazy people. I loved!!
I'm sooo let down with the rev's scepter..
Huh. Medkit's 5 is bugged? Where'd you find this out?
Note for the March 19 patch:
Infusion Bomb: Fixed an issue that caused the boons from this skill to have a lower duration than intended in PvE.
Why do I always hear "heater" instead of "healer" lmao
Did anyone tried dps with mesmer rifle =?
I feel these weapons have been very well received, much better than the EOD ones for example!
My current favorites:
Condi Willbender Pistol/Torch: I like this because there are actually some good condies on pistol, not only "proc you're f1 as many times as possible"
Power Soulbeast double Maces: Unga Bunga, need I say more?
I haven't tried thief axe but it seems really fun also!
A pistol in an Elementalist doenst feel right...
I wanted to like Thief AXE, but i was mostly on Specter...i just can't .... it's not my style...so i made the Astralaria and went back to my Condi Willbender xD The PISTOLS ARE AWESOME XD
Condi Willbender is such a blast c:
@@Laranity it is ! I somehow always go back to my Guardian :) it was my first class in back in the day ( beta ) and i started the live game with Guardian too. Throughout the years i've had Ranger and Engineer and later Thief, but always went back to Guardian! I just love it! Willbender is just fun to play!
The weapons should be much better obtainable. When i as a new player want them i would have to skip all the story and get spoilert
This is a great video to g o r m a n d i z e
good video
ranger maracas is the best
I only have Legendary and no one has tested the new weapons with legendaries i wanna SEE the new effects
Have you tried transmuting your legendary to a different skin to see if that shows you the new effects?
@@traveling.down.the.road56 it's greatsword so there is no interaction with any of the new weapons
who needs spells when you can just cast gun
Yay lets dash to Narnia 🤣🤣🤣
like guardian wasn't strong enaugh already...dont get me wron i love my guard but now with we were omnipotent previousely but now we can BULLETS GO BRRR? i dont see a god up here OTHER THAN ME! haha
also heal zerker is basically an angry man with a stick bonking peaple back on their feet XD.man litterally TOO ANGRY TO DIE!
Great, another way to die quickly to thieves in PvP. On top of their invisibility and high mobility.
Your complaints about Elementalist Pistol actually just echo criticism I have about GW2 as a whole: the UI has zero customizability, and is very poorly designed for rapid information access. All of the information is clumped at the bottom of the screen, away from where your character is, and the opposite side of the screen from your target's information. The icons for buffs and debuffs are not especially easy to differentiate at a glance, are quite small versus the scale of other UI elements, and have no way of filtering or preferencing them. The things you need _the most_ rapid glance access to, your skill bars and your class UI effects, cannot be moved from the bottom of the screen, and that information is spread across literally half of the width of the screen.
As an example, if I'm playing literally any Revenant build, I need to keep not only a close eye on my individual weapon abilities, my legend F abilities, but also my energy bar, my legend swap CD, and my weapon swap CD. If playing Vindicator, I also need to keep on my endurance bar and the buff from dodging. All of that information, fortunately, is concentrated in a relatively small area on the left of the bar, but it means that if I'm trying to watch my _character_ as well, to ensure I'm not standing in bad stuff, or watching an enemy (or multiple) for dangerous telegraphs, my eyes are constantly having to pop up and down across ~15-20 degrees of angle to see my target, my character, and my hotbars. And since GW2 lacks a global cooldown, I can't even really do that on a regular pace or anything, I have to be doing it constantly.
Other classes are even worse about this. Condi Virtuoso, I need to be keeping track of my blades to cast my bladesongs, and also which bladesongs are off cooldown at the time. My blade income, while technically deterministic (via phantasm to clones, and bleed stacks from my own crits, phantasm attacks, and glyphs), insofar as there isn't any RNG involved (if at 100% crit with fury), _feels_ spikey and somewhat random, so I have to be keeping a constant eye on those little pips of my blades, and my bladesong CDs, while also keeping an eye on 1-2 utility effects, usually my heal for phantasm reset, any my weapon swap CD.
Basically, there's a LOT of information I have to keep track of, for any class, all of it spread across the very bottom of the screen, far from where my character and my target(s) and my target's buffs/debuffs are. GW2 desperately needs the ability to customize the UI, to move, scale, hide, or tweak each element of it individually. Having come from a background of largely WoW and FFXIV over the past couple decades, the complete lack of combat UI adjustment (and the poor state of the base UI for rapid information scanning) is, imo, the _most_ crippling aspect of GW2's combat.