Alfred Morris should get credit for that rookie year. As a fellow rookie running back with RGIII, Alfred Morris ran 1600+ yards. RGIII? Alfred Morris is the forgotten man that deserved more credit. RGIII running with Alred Morris was a tough duo.
When you have a RB supplying 1600+ yards on the ground you SHOULD put up a top 10 Rookie Season. The best friend any QB can have is a 1600+ RB lining up next to him. because that keeps the defense honest, it means on 3rd and 5 you can still run the ball, it means that they are not dropping 7 men back into coverage, it means the team is not asking you to put them on your shoulders and carry them to victory, look at Dak Prescot and the season he had as a Rookie, do you think he would have had the same success that he had as a Rookie QB with out Zeke running for some 1700+ yards? RG3 had a great Rookie campaign, BUT without Alfred Morris have an even more impressive Rookie season by supplying 1600+ yards as a 6th round Rookie RB, the Redskins do not go 10-6 and Andrew Luck wins Rookie of the year honors (The Colts also went to the playoffs in his Rookie Year as did the Seahawks with Russel Wilson
As a Washington fan, I will say that even though RG3 was the right pick for us at #2, indeed the steal for us was Alfred Morris. Both of them together gave us a wonderful offense connection at the time, and quite honestly I still can't understand why they let him go and thought that Matt Jones was gonna be the one all end RB. Oh well, all in the past.
Absolutely and it hurt my soul to see him and a damn white and blue jersey. Luckly hes a free agent this year and if i was in the front office, id consider bringing him back here. I wouldnt mind bring RG3 back too. (Ik it will never happen. Im dreamin a bit)
Lol, people be looking for blame anywhere but themselves. He didn't force RG3 in. If he was hurt he would of tap out. Only you would know your body better than anyone else. RG3 wanted to play hero ball, wanted to show guts,wanted glory but sometime you get the other side of that (injuries,sadness,scapegoat, ect ect ect) . Can't believe this is even a discussion or debate. Get over it.
@@adolfocastillo6254 Not an expert on this, but from what I've watched, Mike was also at fault for what happened. No point in risking your future for 1 season
I used to think Shanahan was the downfall of RG3. But Griffin playing injured, then healing shouldn't have cause a person to lose all their ability to make plays a year later. Now it makes sense. RG wanted to change to a style he wasn't suited for.
That cousins Cleveland game was the beginning of the end. He basically got jealous because of how he performed in a drop back style that he himself wanted to be in
Mike has so much knowledge about the game of football. He tried to develop RG into a dropback, but it takes time, time RG wasnt willing to deal with. Mike should be coach of the Broncos today.
RG3 did this to himself. He failed to take ANY responsibility for weaknesses in his game. He was always passive aggressive in dealing with ANY criticism and HATED being coached. In Cleveland they were trying to get him to throw the ball away if none of his reads were open. What was his passive aggressive response......EVERY time he threw the ball away he would throw it over the 15 foot high fence that surrounded the practice field.
easier said then done... when u juke 50 ppl, u think ur gona juke that 51st person and u get caught...its his run game that literally made his pass game... (open receivers, cause d is so worried about the run)... but all u fatties wana sit here and say u could do better..
I agree. I thought he was going to be great, but the guy could not slide to save his life lol. Still don't know why he doesn't try harder to get back in the NFL. Teams are hurting for QB's. Surely he could get a back up spot at the least. Making millions to be a back up with be nice too.....
The reason RG3 is not in the league is that people didn't realize it would take 2-3 seasons for him to become a drop back passer. Gruden didn't have time for him and didn't want to have time for him. RG3 was actually OK in Cleveland and a drop back QB but he kept getting hurt.
Aaron Scott well if a player is constantly injured it should most certainly effect a teams.decision on keepin him or not. Unfortunately some guys are just i jury prone and in the nfl just being available is half the battle
grinningchicken he not in the league cause he always hurt and simply isnt that good. It happens i cant imagine how tough it must be to project a college players ability to the pros. Especially at qb and how different the college qb game is from the nfl.
Right now with no improvement he is a Nick Foles Blaine Gabbert level QB but he appears to have a higher ceiling. RG3 stats when healthy (last 3 Redskin games plus last 3 Cleveland 1384 yd 4TD 4int) ok but the brutal hits nearly every game he takes are too much
He had his knee repeatedly mangled his rookie year in the playoffs. It was so awful to watch. I for once agree with Skip in that the bad injury psychologically messed him up for the rest of his career.
Mike did what harbaugh is doing right now for for Jackson for Robert but griffin was too obsessed with the media’s perception of him to realize that he could’ve been a much bigger weapon than simply a drop back passer. You can hear in mikes voice that he believed and still believes that griffin could’ve been a touchdown and yards machine. Robert just had to learn to slide and avoid contact which he never did. Things would’ve been different if he trusted mike more. Mike went out of his way for him more than any coach from his era with his accomplishments ever would.
It's amazing that a injury that would have most people walking with a cane is overlooked. This man destroyed a ACL after already having destroyed the other ACL in college. He had surgery to repair the ACL damaged in the playoffs by taking cartilage from the knee that was damaged in college. At the end if the day, RGIII is a competitor, and those who never played the game, you will never understand the competitiveness of athletes. The missing link that no one talked about is that the offensive line after the injury was horrific, and as a result, he was getting pounded when dropping back. Most importantly, the receivers were not getting separation consistently, and as a result, he had to put the ball down, and run. If sliding was a issue, time should have been put in TEACH!!!! You had a quarterback that was damaged goods, and should not have come back prior to the reaching the playoffs. They should have left Cousins in to allow RGIII's knee to heal more. They had no confidence in Cousins to do that. The media will not discuss this, or ask Shanahan why he left RGIII in the game when they were up 14-0 to the Seahawks after he visibly got hurt. The defense was on the feild too long in the second half because the quarterback couldn't move the ball with a bad wheel. He should have been taken out, and Cousins should have been put in to at least take more time off the clock. The defense was killing Seattle until they were gassed.
RG3 in Washington was pretty clearly another Vince Young situation. The owner wanted him, the coach didn't. Gets him hurt, replaces him with Cousins at the first opportunity, and throws him under the bus for not wanting to be put in more situations like the one that got him injured.
z2ei there have been multiple people that confirmed RG III demanding Mike and Kyle to transition him to a throwing passer. As a fan of the skins that was a terrible 2 seasons watching him try to play in the pocket. A bulk of his yardage came in garbage time and he was known for check downs especially the game when the back up RB Roy Helu had about 20 receptions.
z2ei a majority of those injury were on RG3, he does not know when to go down on his runs. Think about it his first knee injury was on him for not going into a slide which is protection for the QB. RG3 was also reported to have forced himself onto the field with the injuries.
You mean the season we had half a team because of the cap penalty? Or the one where he got hurt; Cousins kept turning the ball over; and colt got hurt?
I always thought that RG3 was more into building a brand for himself instead of working at being the best RG3 he could be. The football seemed secondary. That being said, I thought he was a decent guy, wish he'd get a chance to play again.
_He avoided the question so bad_ Of course he did, because coaches are taught to not say anything controversial. (Been that way for decades.) I'm shocked that he said as much as he did.
Great segment, awesome to see an eyewitness account of what happened straight from the source, Coach Shanahan. Finally something other than observations/assumptions from analysts.
That’s not true.. he could still play after the tear, he just refused to run what worked for him until they slowly turned him into a pocket passer, he thought he was good enough to just do it, being a read the defense pocket qb is a whole different ball game compared to the simplified system he ran in 2012 he let the rookie season go to his head
You dont take yourself out of games. That is literally the head coaches job. Look at Jay Cutler 2011 playoffs. Took himself out and received death threats.
RG3's career is tragic! He was everything in college and went left in the NFL. I'm glad he git his college and masters degree. I hope he saved his money and invested in good things. RG3 needs to write a book.
No. He had a ACL sprain didn't he and then he tore it later in the game. Then he was done. Washington didn't get the ball again. I'm pretty sure that's what happened.
@@ELI4SZ rg3 ruined his own career, he thought he was as stated in the video “Aaron Rodgers” and wasn’t willing to be patient and learn to become a pocket passer, he thought he could just go out and do it just because of how he played in 2012 in the simplified system. He let that successful rookie year go to his head. Nobody could convince him to be patient. As weird as it sounds, having success his first year is what probably ruined his career, due to how it changed him
I still think he can make a team next year. Somehow he overcomes the mental aspect and goes back to what brought him to the dance RG3 could still be a useful QB to have in this league.
I don't know why so many idiots keep blaming Mike for RG3 but its really RG3 who is to blamed. RG3 wanted to play and insisted he could play. Despite his knee injury, RG3 was determined he could play in that playoff game. Its not like Mike forced him to play because they didn't. RG3 wanted to play and the Redskins trusted RG3 decision so its on RG3.
Royal Ace coach can insist that you sit out and you had to. It was his call. It's all about whether you wanna make the decision or let the crowd and other ppl make the decision for you.
What hurt RG3 is the fact that in that 2012 playoff game versus Seattle when they were ahead 14-0 Robert was out there limping around on a sprained knee but instead of taking him out of the game like any normal coach would have done Shanahan kept RG3 out there and late in the game Robert dropped back and planted his foot and all of a sudden that sprained knee turned into a torn ACL and PCL. So instead of being out a few weeks with only a sprained knee and having the rest of the offseason to get better Robert had reconstructive knee surgery and spent the entire offseason in rehab. To make matters worse Robert pushed himself too hard and Shanahan started him the first game of the next season although RG3 didn't play a single snap during the preseason so of course Robert struggled because he wasn't ready to return. Late that season once Robert started getting healthy Shanahan benched Robert the final 3 or 4 games of that season for no damn reason at all. Thanks for destroying the career of RG3 Shanahan....you freakin born loser.
This is exactly word for word what I have been saying. That game against Seattle took 5 yrs of my life, I couldn’t sleep for a whole week. I knew what was coming was years of disaster.
I disagree.. he got hurt and couldn't get over the mental hurdle. Ever go down with a serious injury...? It's tough physically but the mental aspect of it is underappreciated if that makes sense.
OKC x Probably not comparable to a professional football player coming back from an injury. Doubt there are 300+ lb dudes playing Rugby. Still commendable for you to do that though.
Huh? Mike put him in the best position to succeed and now he’s out of the league because he wanted so bad to be something he’s not. Mike could only go against the owner for so long so his firing was inevitable. Rg3 is extremely talented but his ego broke him
RGIII helped build the Clemson program into the machine that they are today. Nobody really mentions it, but when RGIII finally whipped the Oklahoma defense for Baylor’s first win ever over the Sooners, Bob Stoops made the historic decision that he needed help on the defensive staff. So Bob turned to his brother Mike, who had just been fired in Tucson, for defensive help in Norman. Brent Venables didn’t like it, so he bolted to Clemson. The rest is history as Brent V is now probably the best DC in the nation.
RG3 was the Ricky Martin of Football a 1 hit wonder which reminds me of how difficult it is to be consistently great in the NFL *Newton,Matt Ryan,Seahawks Wilson ect* then you have Brady who for 18 years has been consistently great (from 2001 Super Bowl MVP to present)
I feel terrible for RGIII. He was unbelievable his rookie year. He had a cannon for an arm and could run when under pressure. I wonder what could of been if he didn’t get hurt all the time.
Watching this 18 months later, and hindsight being 20/20, Shanahan doesn't come off as bad, but still, how many wrongs does it take to make a right? Still, glad RG3 made it back into the league, even if as a backup who only took a few snaps. He's still just 28 years old.
Kirk was drafted in the 4th round, not 2nd round. 1st and 2nd round drafted guys are meant to be starters, while 4th round and below are usually meant for developmental projects and normally wouldn't last long in the league. Kirk just made the best of his opportunity.
John Noelsaint, I believe Rex Grossman was only QB option at 2011/2012 time.... Rex Grossman sucks as 2nd option and coach knew that. Draft another rook to back up another, brilliant!!
thesstype Rex was Mike's guy. He literally benched Donovan McNabb mid season to play him and went threw another season as his QB. Mike is BSing a lot because we still scored better in 13 than we did in 14" or any of Mike's previous years, but he won't mention that.
I picked rg3 to win rookie of the year over luck.i picked luck to be better QB long term and if he hadnt been injured luck's career would be was heading in that. direction . I would of never guessed rg3 to be out of league this fast tho. Wilson and cousins were the superises of that draft class.
I personally think RG3 downfall was he came back from that injury to soon. I don't think he was completely a 100 percent at the beginning of his second season and that's what hurt him.
The smart thing for him to have done (along with ray rice) is to go to the CFL and keep in shape , sharpen his skills , build up his confidence , tighten up technique and make other teams sit up and notice - then they will come a calling !!
Barbara Poole i agree to a degree (ha rymed) but seriously rg3 was playing good with the knee and on top of that he was their only chance to win and he proved that by losing with kirk
I disagree.. he got hurt and couldn't get over the mental hurdle. Ever go down with a serious injury...? It's tough physically but the mental aspect of it is underknown if that makes sense. Plus he's not a good reader of defenses. Jay Gruden didn't want him and neither did the chargers.
Romain he was already too hurt to be standing up, let alone playing NFL playoff football. They pimped him out until he literally broke right in front of us. Damn shame.
Romain true. But many players do the same, lots of people in football are "tough guys". He wasn't really helping himself, but the Redskins organization completely mismanaged RGIII as a talent. That much is undeniable. It was their job to keep him safe and that just did not happen.
If only RG3 been patient and kept doing the 50 series zone read and learned the drop back mechanic later he would still be a starter with the Redskins and Mike Shanahan would probably still be the coach and the 'Skins would be a playoff caliber team. If you disagree look at Pete Carroll and Russell Wilson.
Wow i did not know that. Here we have always thought shanahan was to blame for rg3s downfall. I get it, rg3 didnt want to be the typical "running quarterback" but damn his fall was the most sudden career change of a star we've ever seen!
RG3 was too full of himself just because you see somebody else doing something doesn't mean you're going to be doing it just as well what does clearly proven by his career
If anything I still think RG3 is good enough to be a career back up. He can hold down the fort for a few games if the starter should go down a while. Plus it would give him more years to develop and heal those old wounds. Perhaps in the future he could be a legit starter once again for a team with potential. He seems to have a good personality and would be a nice role model in the community even though his football role would be a back up.
I've been telling my boys this for years that RGIII will have a short career if he continues to play Read Option & not develop into a drop back passer so I agree with everything Shanahan said. For Griffin to refuse to change is asinine. But not sure why the panel seemed so assured that RGIII would be forever out of football when at only 28 still had the goods to be a serviceable backup, which ended up happening just 5 months later w/the Ravens.
You don't figure out the read option. The QB makes a good decision or he doesn't. You are using all 11 players so the offense us not playing down a man. The defense has to apply the proper attention just to slow it so you can play action off of it. It's not a trick and is really old.
Idk why people think shanahan didn't like RGlll sure he wanted him to be more of a pocket passer but he also let RG3 have option plays and wanted to help RG3 to protect himself. Now Jay gurden that's a totally different story.
Mike is correct, RGIII wanted to become an instant drop back passer after his knee injury. If the dude had learned how to avoid a hit he never would have gotten hurt in the first place. Making himself an uncomfortable, stationary target with a bad knee didn’t do him any favors. If he had listened to Mike, he could have kept defenses off balance while learning the game. Instead, he chose to drop back in a pocket he knew nothing about, got destroyed repeatedly, and became another shell shocked David Carr.
Also it's Shanahan fault also when RG3 got hurt in that playoff game.And then Shanahan let him come back in the game,for a career injury. REMEMBER THAT
He had his last chance with the browns. If he would of just ran out of bounds instead of try to run the guy over he would never hurt his arm and would of still been in the NFL.
“RG 3 is always hurt”. So are most of the quarterbacks in the NFL. It’s rare that a QB finishes a season upright much less on the active list. Did the Washington line remind you of the “Great Wall of Dallas”? Did Cleveland? A QB is only as good as the team around him and the coaching staff. Pure drop back passer are rare now, the ones that exist have good receivers and great lines. Griffin didn’t Luck doesn’t.
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Are you surprised nobody will give RG3 another chance?
I’m not. Change the question and put Colin kapernick and then let’s debate about it
Skip and Shannon: UNDISPUTED because you can upload and keep private they commented while vid was on private it went public 3 min ago
Skip and Shannon: UNDISPUTED no
Yes surprised he should still be in the NFL
Yes because he’s better than most of the back ups in the league. Teams like Seattle who has an offense that will fit him
He did have an amazing rookie season. RG3 and Alfred Morris were dak and zeke before they were dak and zeke
Breen Machine well, it's about to be Dak and Morris for a few games
Yea what happened to morris? Like did he just fall off? He was still a beast after rg3 left. Then he just fell off
Eduardo Gzz they stopped giving him the ball Imo.
Breen Machine FACTS
Dak & Zeke are exactly what Rg3 & Morris could’ve been. If Rg3 stayed healthy
Alfred Morris should get credit for that rookie year. As a fellow rookie running back with RGIII, Alfred Morris ran 1600+ yards. RGIII? Alfred Morris is the forgotten man that deserved more credit. RGIII running with Alred Morris was a tough duo.
jane john rg3 put up a top 10 rookie season
When you have a RB supplying 1600+ yards on the ground you SHOULD put up a top 10 Rookie Season.
The best friend any QB can have is a 1600+ RB lining up next to him. because that keeps the defense honest, it means on 3rd and 5 you can still run the ball, it means that they are not dropping 7 men back into coverage, it means the team is not asking you to put them on your shoulders and carry them to victory, look at Dak Prescot and the season he had as a Rookie, do you think he would have had the same success that he had as a Rookie QB with out Zeke running for some 1700+ yards?
RG3 had a great Rookie campaign, BUT without Alfred Morris have an even more impressive Rookie season by supplying 1600+ yards as a 6th round Rookie RB, the Redskins do not go 10-6 and Andrew Luck wins Rookie of the year honors (The Colts also went to the playoffs in his Rookie Year as did the Seahawks with Russel Wilson
jane john word
As a Washington fan, I will say that even though RG3 was the right pick for us at #2, indeed the steal for us was Alfred Morris. Both of them together gave us a wonderful offense connection at the time, and quite honestly I still can't understand why they let him go and thought that Matt Jones was gonna be the one all end RB. Oh well, all in the past.
Absolutely and it hurt my soul to see him and a damn white and blue jersey. Luckly hes a free agent this year and if i was in the front office, id consider bringing him back here. I wouldnt mind bring RG3 back too.
(Ik it will never happen. Im dreamin a bit)
I forgot all about RG3 Skiulppp!!!!
But here's the thang Skiiiulpp I have a love/hate relationship with Shannon Sharpe. 😂😂😂😂😂😂 70% love 30%hate
I love your screen name!! 😂😂
But here's the thang Skiiiulpp I Almost forgot about the clutch shot Ray Allen did that saved LEBRON'S LEGACY
But here's the thang skeup. My grandma used to always tell me this
Lol
The most quiet Shannon has ever been in his life. You can tell he respects Mike
It's so awesome hearing the perspective of the coaches on certain players. Why haven't I seen this before? I enjoyed seeing Shanahan talk
Agreed 100% I watch this show almost everyday I never saw this until today
A coach that ruined his career.
Because you left him in when he was hurt
Yup I remember that had him out that like peg leg Pete
Twice
Actually. He grabbed his helmet and ran out after getting told he’s being benched...
Seattle broke him in that playoff game physically and mentally
Lol, people be looking for blame anywhere but themselves. He didn't force RG3 in. If he was hurt he would of tap out. Only you would know your body better than anyone else. RG3 wanted to play hero ball, wanted to show guts,wanted glory but sometime you get the other side of that (injuries,sadness,scapegoat, ect ect ect) . Can't believe this is even a discussion or debate. Get over it.
Shannon is all calm next to his old coach 😂😂
Its called respect!
Shannon respects him so much.
It’s respect lol I don’t talk act same round my mom lol 😂
Sometimes u need not answer comments🤔respect 🤣🤣🤣
He’s biting his tongue so hard ready to play the race card
Shannon on his best behaviour 😂😂😂😂
🤦🏽♂️
@@isaiahbattle547 it’s his coach
Shanahan is like a father figure to him his coach for his best years.
I never understood how an athlete like RG3 couldn’t learn how to slide like a baseball player. That alone was a huge reason for all his injuries.
Coaching played a major part
Bad coaching
That and not making consistent reads.
@@Istaygroovy to be fair Shannahan never wanted him at QB, was a hand forced by dipshit Dan
It's not intuitive. Apparently some people can't manage. I'm sure it's a mental thing and not a physical one.
Even after his ACL he never became that pocket passer he wanted to become 🤷🏻♂️ time has shown Mike was right
All of this is bull RG3 became a Pocket passer, he just hasn't gotten the chance to show what he is capable of.
@@jetshark970shark4 LMAOOOOOOOOOO ok if that helps you sleep at night bozo
@@adolfocastillo6254 Not an expert on this, but from what I've watched, Mike was also at fault for what happened. No point in risking your future for 1 season
@nathanhosea489 he had a meddling owner Shanahan has a solid record of superbowl winning qb.s who played in there late 30s early 40s
They were all-pros before Shanahan coached them@@stevenbrown6720 . Did Shanahen evver develop a quarterback?
I used to think Shanahan was the downfall of RG3. But Griffin playing injured, then healing shouldn't have cause a person to lose all their ability to make plays a year later. Now it makes sense. RG wanted to change to a style he wasn't suited for.
That cousins Cleveland game was the beginning of the end. He basically got jealous because of how he performed in a drop back style that he himself wanted to be in
Mike has so much knowledge about the game of football. He tried to develop RG into a dropback, but it takes time, time RG wasnt willing to deal with. Mike should be coach of the Broncos today.
Mike Shanahan makes me wanna clear my own damn throat when he’s talking smh soo raspy
Oliver Landjergue try listening to a lil wayne interview
Omg😂😂😂😂
Oliver Landjergue here, here.
Oliver Landjergue Jadakiss
Lol You are foolish
RG3 did this to himself. He failed to take ANY responsibility for weaknesses in his game. He was always passive aggressive in dealing with ANY criticism and HATED being coached. In Cleveland they were trying to get him to throw the ball away if none of his reads were open. What was his passive aggressive response......EVERY time he threw the ball away he would throw it over the 15 foot high fence that surrounded the practice field.
Yup he plays victims and banks of espn
Joe Flacco has the best agent in the history of NFL quarterbacks.
How come though?????
Kirk cousins
Sam Bradford
Peyton manning
Tom brady
If RG3 had simply learned to slide we wouldnt be having this conversation.
Branden Dayne yes he was terrible at sliding he should’ve spent time with the Nationals on how to slide
easier said then done... when u juke 50 ppl, u think ur gona juke that 51st person and u get caught...its his run game that literally made his pass game... (open receivers, cause d is so worried about the run)... but all u fatties wana sit here and say u could do better..
No one said they could do better, they said he needs to learn how to slide lol
I agree. I thought he was going to be great, but the guy could not slide to save his life lol. Still don't know why he doesn't try harder to get back in the NFL. Teams are hurting for QB's. Surely he could get a back up spot at the least. Making millions to be a back up with be nice too.....
Branden Dayne if he had only learn to read defenses.
RG thought the coaching was holding him back. Instead it was exactly what he needed. Look at Lamar.
@SuleymanSports nothing wrong wit it if you can stay healthy and protect yourself
I like how you have an image of the female reproductive organs as your pic!
"Because I broke him, Skip."
Facts
but he has been in the league for the last two seasons as a backup.
This video is old....
Collecting free money isnt bad. I wouldnt mind being a backup QB
RG took some of the most vicious hits I've ever seen. I'm surprised he lasted as long as he did.
Yeah how can you last longer if you never try to protect yourself
The reason RG3 is not in the league is that people didn't realize it would take 2-3 seasons for him to become a drop back passer. Gruden didn't have time for him and didn't want to have time for him.
RG3 was actually OK in Cleveland and a drop back QB but he kept getting hurt.
grinningchicken and he lead them to their first and only win when he came back from injury
Aaron Scott well if a player is constantly injured it should most certainly effect a teams.decision on keepin him or not. Unfortunately some guys are just i jury prone and in the nfl just being available is half the battle
grinningchicken he not in the league cause he always hurt and simply isnt that good. It happens i cant imagine how tough it must be to project a college players ability to the pros. Especially at qb and how different the college qb game is from the nfl.
Right now with no improvement he is a Nick Foles Blaine Gabbert level QB but he appears to have a higher ceiling.
RG3 stats when healthy (last 3 Redskin games plus last 3 Cleveland 1384 yd 4TD 4int) ok but the brutal hits nearly every game he takes are too much
If he's always hurt, what good is he?
He had his knee repeatedly mangled his rookie year in the playoffs. It was so awful to watch. I for once agree with Skip in that the bad injury psychologically messed him up for the rest of his career.
Yeah it’s rough you gotta learn to save yourself from yourself before it’s too late when it comes to injuries
Come back Mike Shanahan the Broncos need you we believe in the power of Shanahan
Mike did what harbaugh is doing right now for for Jackson for Robert but griffin was too obsessed with the media’s perception of him to realize that he could’ve been a much bigger weapon than simply a drop back passer. You can hear in mikes voice that he believed and still believes that griffin could’ve been a touchdown and yards machine. Robert just had to learn to slide and avoid contact which he never did. Things would’ve been different if he trusted mike more. Mike went out of his way for him more than any coach from his era with his accomplishments ever would.
I love how skip asks a question on off-the-field stuff and mike completely ignores it and restates what he just said
It's amazing that a injury that would have most people walking with a cane is overlooked. This man destroyed a ACL after already having destroyed the other ACL in college. He had surgery to repair the ACL damaged in the playoffs by taking cartilage from the knee that was damaged in college. At the end if the day, RGIII is a competitor, and those who never played the game, you will never understand the competitiveness of athletes. The missing link that no one talked about is that the offensive line after the injury was horrific, and as a result, he was getting pounded when dropping back. Most importantly, the receivers were not getting separation consistently, and as a result, he had to put the ball down, and run. If sliding was a issue, time should have been put in TEACH!!!! You had a quarterback that was damaged goods, and should not have come back prior to the reaching the playoffs. They should have left Cousins in to allow RGIII's knee to heal more. They had no confidence in Cousins to do that. The media will not discuss this, or ask Shanahan why he left RGIII in the game when they were up 14-0 to the Seahawks after he visibly got hurt. The defense was on the feild too long in the second half because the quarterback couldn't move the ball with a bad wheel. He should have been taken out, and Cousins should have been put in to at least take more time off the clock. The defense was killing Seattle until they were gassed.
RG3 in Washington was pretty clearly another Vince Young situation. The owner wanted him, the coach didn't. Gets him hurt, replaces him with Cousins at the first opportunity, and throws him under the bus for not wanting to be put in more situations like the one that got him injured.
z2ei there have been multiple people that confirmed RG III demanding Mike and Kyle to transition him to a throwing passer. As a fan of the skins that was a terrible 2 seasons watching him try to play in the pocket. A bulk of his yardage came in garbage time and he was known for check downs especially the game when the back up RB Roy Helu had about 20 receptions.
z2ei a majority of those injury were on RG3, he does not know when to go down on his runs. Think about it his first knee injury was on him for not going into a slide which is protection for the QB. RG3 was also reported to have forced himself onto the field with the injuries.
"Gets him hurt" smd
You mean the season we had half a team because of the cap penalty? Or the one where he got hurt; Cousins kept turning the ball over; and colt got hurt?
z2ei Injury prone Andrew luck was black he be out the league like RG3 !!!!
The respect he commands is crazy. Such an amazing coach.
And Kyle is no better
Coach shannahan knows how to pick and judge quarterbacks. One of best coach in Broncos history
I always thought that RG3 was more into building a brand for himself instead of working at being the best RG3 he could be. The football seemed secondary. That being said, I thought he was a decent guy, wish he'd get a chance to play again.
Who cares what you always thought
Easy!! Jim bo been drinkn the hateraide a lot latley. Haha
I don't think so. A better brand was his playstyle. I think the fear of injury was what kept him from being his best.
That's why he was often called RGMe.
It’s called narcissism
He avoided the question so bad
l j and so good lol
he answered it. he implied "no" to him being surprised nobody will give rg3 another chance
He probably bad mouthed him to other GM's. That stuff happens a lot. People can't turn the page and be grown ups.
Dontdoittoyoself
What??? Dude was signed by the Browns 2yrs ago and played like trash. Mike didn't have to bad mouth him to the other GM's.
_He avoided the question so bad_
Of course he did, because coaches are taught to not say anything controversial. (Been that way for decades.)
I'm shocked that he said as much as he did.
Joy is frickin gorgeous
Pac Meez yeah she is
She used to be a man
joy or Molly ?
TheOrlandobot lol are u kidding?
Yes she is tran look at up
All I gotta say is if jay cutler can keep getting jobs why cant rg3?
Carl Mucker hrs broke down man. As many people have stated that injury he incurred with the redskins was the straw that broke the camels back
Carl Mucker Now that's the truth...Curler is garbage.But,Rg3,kap,still not even given a chance....But I know why,that's why the NFL is a joke...
Larry O who wouldn’t suck with Cleveland 😂
Because Cutler will actually get rid of the ball. Sure he throws picks but at least he gets rid of it. RG3 holds it too long.
Carl Mucker rgiii is injury prone amd is a poor pocket passer while Jay isnt and was put into an offense he already knew.
Great segment, awesome to see an eyewitness account of what happened straight from the source, Coach Shanahan. Finally something other than observations/assumptions from analysts.
RG3 is one of the saddest stories I've seen. The dude was a BEAST until he tore that acl.
That’s not true.. he could still play after the tear, he just refused to run what worked for him until they slowly turned him into a pocket passer, he thought he was good enough to just do it, being a read the defense pocket qb is a whole different ball game compared to the simplified system he ran in 2012 he let the rookie season go to his head
Why is RG3 not in the league...Shanahan, well me for one.
Michael Holmes lol what happend between those guy's? I keep seeing comments like this
Lil Wayne Carter he let him play knowing he was basically playing on one leg.
Pure Black oh Damn
I swear to "God," if he had said that, I would've had a new respect for Mike Shanahan.
Michael Holmes THAT's COLD!!
You put him out to the wolves with his knee injury. But the league is a joke, cause guys like Matt McGloin still get signed
Sprax he wanted to be out there. He always understates his injuries. Remember the concussion saga in 2015?
They tried to keep him out but he wanted to play
He was intimidated by cousins. Cousins went off when he went out and he wanted back in.
You dont take yourself out of games. That is literally the head coaches job. Look at Jay Cutler 2011 playoffs. Took himself out and received death threats.
KevBoy Animated Cousins is the better QB and RGIII, what and who he is, doesn't translate to sustainable success in the NFL.
RG3 isn't an NFL QB because of his multiple injuries. He's the Derrick Rose of the NFL.
Some Guy He can barely read NFL defenses
Some Guy Rose is waaay better than RG3.
Some Guy JJ Watt is the Derrick Rose of football.
Put some respect on watts name.. 3 time defensive mvp
Carlitos07 Exactly. He goes from that to completely injury prone.
RG3 and Russel Wilson were one of the best 2 qb's to ever come out of the draft... had such high hopes for RG3...
The “ GREAT” Mike Shanahan has spoken. One of the best coaches, coordinators and gentlemen of all time. Yes, I’m a homer. GO Broncos!
I want to see him succeed in the nfl. He is an amazing person with a great family.
Man I really wanted rg3 to succeed in the league. Enjoyed watching him play.
RG3's career is tragic! He was everything in college and went left in the NFL. I'm glad he git his college and masters degree. I hope he saved his money and invested in good things. RG3 needs to write a book.
Didn’t Shanahan put him back in after he tore his ACL during a game or am I trippin?
You're just ignorant of the facts.
Nobody with a torn ACL is going to be able to WALK let alone play in a game. YOu're trippin.
No. He had a ACL sprain didn't he and then he tore it later in the game. Then he was done. Washington didn't get the ball again. I'm pretty sure that's what happened.
@@moebetta4224 shanahan ruined rg3 career that’s all the Facts you need to know
@@ELI4SZ rg3 ruined his own career, he thought he was as stated in the video “Aaron Rodgers” and wasn’t willing to be patient and learn to become a pocket passer, he thought he could just go out and do it just because of how he played in 2012 in the simplified system. He let that successful rookie year go to his head. Nobody could convince him to be patient. As weird as it sounds, having success his first year is what probably ruined his career, due to how it changed him
I still think he can make a team next year. Somehow he overcomes the mental aspect and goes back to what brought him to the dance RG3 could still be a useful QB to have in this league.
I don't know why so many idiots keep blaming Mike for RG3 but its really RG3 who is to blamed. RG3 wanted to play and insisted he could play. Despite his knee injury, RG3 was determined he could play in that playoff game. Its not like Mike forced him to play because they didn't. RG3 wanted to play and the Redskins trusted RG3 decision so its on RG3.
Royal Ace coach can insist that you sit out and you had to. It was his call. It's all about whether you wanna make the decision or let the crowd and other ppl make the decision for you.
Rg3 didn’t want to loose his spot on the team
That's the correct answer.
I believe this to be the most accurate and truthful interview about RGIII.
Rg3 was exciting to watch! Great player who had a short career do to injuries! There’s many players who had short careers do to getting hurt!
RGIII, I legend in his own mind.
What hurt RG3 is the fact that in that 2012 playoff game versus Seattle when they were ahead 14-0 Robert was out there limping around on a sprained knee but instead of taking him out of the game like any normal coach would have done Shanahan kept RG3 out there and late in the game Robert dropped back and planted his foot and all of a sudden that sprained knee turned into a torn ACL and PCL. So instead of being out a few weeks with only a sprained knee and having the rest of the offseason to get better Robert had reconstructive knee surgery and spent the entire offseason in rehab. To make matters worse Robert pushed himself too hard and Shanahan started him the first game of the next season although RG3 didn't play a single snap during the preseason so of course Robert struggled because he wasn't ready to return. Late that season once Robert started getting healthy Shanahan benched Robert the final 3 or 4 games of that season for no damn reason at all. Thanks for destroying the career of RG3 Shanahan....you freakin born loser.
You are so right
Born loser? Dudes won super bowls
This is exactly word for word what I have been saying. That game against Seattle took 5 yrs of my life, I couldn’t sleep for a whole week. I knew what was coming was years of disaster.
😂😂😂rg3 is reason why his career failed 😂😂😂😂
why would Mike be surprised? He broke him lol
I disagree.. he got hurt and couldn't get over the mental hurdle. Ever go down with a serious injury...? It's tough physically but the mental aspect of it is underappreciated if that makes sense.
Romain I tore my ankle ligaments 6 times playing rugby and never missed a beat
OKC x Probably not comparable to a professional football player coming back from an injury. Doubt there are 300+ lb dudes playing Rugby. Still commendable for you to do that though.
SC 007107 right but how many linebackers are 300lbs? Linebackers are the general player in rugby other than a few positions
Huh? Mike put him in the best position to succeed and now he’s out of the league because he wanted so bad to be something he’s not. Mike could only go against the owner for so long so his firing was inevitable. Rg3 is extremely talented but his ego broke him
Mike Shanananahan sounds like he has an ashtray inside his mouth.
Sam Mitchell 😂
Gimme a break, he sounds like an old guy.
Sam Mitchell 😂😂😂😂
OHHHHHHH
How do u know what it feels like it sounds like he has an ashtray in his mouth have u had ashtrays in your mouth
RGIII helped build the Clemson program into the machine that they are today. Nobody really mentions it, but when RGIII finally whipped the Oklahoma defense for Baylor’s first win ever over the Sooners, Bob Stoops made the historic decision that he needed help on the defensive staff. So Bob turned to his brother Mike, who had just been fired in Tucson, for defensive help in Norman. Brent Venables didn’t like it, so he bolted to Clemson. The rest is history as Brent V is now probably the best DC in the nation.
I remember when Griffin played his first NFL game against the Saints. He looked like a first ballot hall of famer.
RG3 was the Ricky Martin of Football a 1 hit wonder which reminds me of how difficult it is to be consistently great in the NFL *Newton,Matt Ryan,Seahawks Wilson ect* then you have Brady who for 18 years has been consistently great (from 2001 Super Bowl MVP to present)
Shanahan look like a retired Freddy Kreuger
Byrdee Entertainment nah. He looks like the Sheriff on Texas Chainsaw
Lol
I feel terrible for RGIII. He was unbelievable his rookie year. He had a cannon for an arm and could run when under pressure. I wonder what could of been if he didn’t get hurt all the time.
Undisputed fast becoming the best sports talk show. Love listening to the podcast version in my car! Shannon poundcaking Skip everyday makes my day!
RG3 is one of the most talented QB I ever seen coming out college. He reminds me of like a Grant Hill injuries just was his downfall.
Watching this 18 months later, and hindsight being 20/20, Shanahan doesn't come off as bad, but still, how many wrongs does it take to make a right? Still, glad RG3 made it back into the league, even if as a backup who only took a few snaps. He's still just 28 years old.
I’m so disappointed they didn’t ask about why he drafted Kirk in the second round after taking RG3 in the first round
Kirk was drafted in the 4th round, not 2nd round. 1st and 2nd round drafted guys are meant to be starters, while 4th round and below are usually meant for developmental projects and normally wouldn't last long in the league. Kirk just made the best of his opportunity.
John Noelsaint, I believe Rex Grossman was only QB option at 2011/2012 time.... Rex Grossman sucks as 2nd option and coach knew that. Draft another rook to back up another, brilliant!!
thesstype Rex was Mike's guy. He literally benched Donovan McNabb mid season to play him and went threw another season as his QB.
Mike is BSing a lot because we still scored better in 13 than we did in 14" or any of Mike's previous years, but he won't mention that.
I picked rg3 to win rookie of the year over luck.i picked luck to be better QB long term and if he hadnt been injured luck's career would be was heading in that. direction . I would of never guessed rg3 to be out of league this fast tho. Wilson and cousins were the superises of that draft class.
I personally think RG3 downfall was he came back from that injury to soon. I don't think he was completely a 100 percent at the beginning of his second season and that's what hurt him.
Because he saw Cousins as a threat to replace him completely and wanted to he the hero
He's the guy responsible for throwing a hurt RG3 in that playoff game.
no the gm is
@@twondagreat8893 nah he had final say
You gotta save players from themselves should have played Kirk Cousins
No he is not
😂😂😂knew someone was gonna say it
Because RG3 refused to slide to avoid getting hit and Mike allowing him to play when his knee was not fully healed.
The smart thing for him to have done (along with ray rice) is to go to the CFL and keep in shape , sharpen his skills , build up his confidence , tighten up technique and make other teams sit up and notice - then they will come a calling !!
Ray Allen had the most clutch shot in the finals I had ever seen.
Shanahan is the sole reason RG111 is out of the league. He never should have started in the playoffs on one leg. He was a sitting duck.
Barbara Poole i agree to a degree (ha rymed) but seriously rg3 was playing good with the knee and on top of that he was their only chance to win and he proved that by losing with kirk
I disagree.. he got hurt and couldn't get over the mental hurdle. Ever go down with a serious injury...? It's tough physically but the mental aspect of it is underknown if that makes sense. Plus he's not a good reader of defenses. Jay Gruden didn't want him and neither did the chargers.
Romain he was already too hurt to be standing up, let alone playing NFL playoff football. They pimped him out until he literally broke right in front of us. Damn shame.
jojo Seoul I'd say to that RGIII always understates his injuries. Remember the concussion saga in 2015?
Romain true. But many players do the same, lots of people in football are "tough guys". He wasn't really helping himself, but the Redskins organization completely mismanaged RGIII as a talent. That much is undeniable. It was their job to keep him safe and that just did not happen.
Mike Shanahan is 100% completely right.
If only RG3 been patient and kept doing the 50 series zone read and learned the drop back mechanic later he would still be a starter with the Redskins and Mike Shanahan would probably still be the coach and the 'Skins would be a playoff caliber team. If you disagree look at Pete Carroll and Russell Wilson.
Straight no chaser. Mike pulled no punches with RG3
Shanon be having flashbacks to his Broncos day when being coached by Mike. 😂😂
Man I sure hate what happened to RG3 he should be as big as Russel Wilson right now
TRUE DAT!!!!! He sure outplayed Andrew Luck and all of them his rookie season.
ExtraOrdinary MUSIC jamarcus Russell you mean. Lol
Cher P so hall of fame for him then.
ExtraOrdinary MUSIC Remember how the vibe of football fell after Taylor died. RGIII brought back mania. He was good for DC.
ExtraOrdinary MUSIC Lmao
Great discussion. Love RGIII he was unstoppable for a stretch
Wow i did not know that. Here we have always thought shanahan was to blame for rg3s downfall. I get it, rg3 didnt want to be the typical "running quarterback" but damn his fall was the most sudden career change of a star we've ever seen!
RG3 was too full of himself just because you see somebody else doing something doesn't mean you're going to be doing it just as well what does clearly proven by his career
Good coaching is more important than player talent.. Rg3 can probably still ball with the right coaches
I like how skip was well behaved around Mike. Usually the guy acts like a lunatic, frothing at the mouth, shouting his nonsense.
Beta
Classic story of work your show horse into the ground. Coaches want to win so it's up to the players to protect themselves.
If anything I still think RG3 is good enough to be a career back up. He can hold down the fort for a few games if the starter should go down a while. Plus it would give him more years to develop and heal those old wounds. Perhaps in the future he could be a legit starter once again for a team with potential. He seems to have a good personality and would be a nice role model in the community even though his football role would be a back up.
I've been telling my boys this for years that RGIII will have a short career if he continues to play Read Option & not develop into a drop back passer so I agree with everything Shanahan said. For Griffin to refuse to change is asinine. But not sure why the panel seemed so assured that RGIII would be forever out of football when at only 28 still had the goods to be a serviceable backup, which ended up happening just 5 months later w/the Ravens.
Aaaaaaand hes back with the Ravens in the preseason
5:39 Sharpe acted like he asked the most profound question
i grew up falling asleep to Mike Shanahan's voice on the radio, things havent changed.
Only casuals think MS and KS ruined RG3. How does an ACL injury result in him not being able to read a defense?
It doesn’t. He got
Hurt wasn’t good anymore. Happened to many qb’s over the years. He’s nothing unique
I understand what Shanahan is saying but the league adjusted to the read option.
Rochard Sauveur not exactly defenses still be getting caught off guard by it
raymond reynolds i think you’re right especially when I think about the success of Russel Wilson.
You don't figure out the read option. The QB makes a good decision or he doesn't. You are using all 11 players so the offense us not playing down a man. The defense has to apply the proper attention just to slow it so you can play action off of it. It's not a trick and is really old.
Yeah, they adjusted so much, EVERY TEAM RUNS SOME READ OPTION TODAY!!!!
RG3's mommy and daddy went with him to a team meeting? lol
RG3 is a multi millionaire. He can enjoy his retirement and not get injured. If he wants to work, Burger King is hiring.
Idk why people think shanahan didn't like RGlll sure he wanted him to be more of a pocket passer but he also let RG3 have option plays and wanted to help RG3 to protect himself. Now Jay gurden that's a totally different story.
Mike is correct, RGIII wanted to become an instant drop back passer after his knee injury. If the dude had learned how to avoid a hit he never would have gotten hurt in the first place. Making himself an uncomfortable, stationary target with a bad knee didn’t do him any favors. If he had listened to Mike, he could have kept defenses off balance while learning the game. Instead, he chose to drop back in a pocket he knew nothing about, got destroyed repeatedly, and became another shell shocked David Carr.
Making him run after he got his knee bent backward instead of teaching him the playbook
Lol, I was waiting for Shanahan to say "BECAUSE HE SUCKS."
Good one, I liked it!
RG3 was literally ran into the ground
HE THE REASON WHY, PUTTING HIM IN THE GAME SO HE CAN GET A WILD CARD VICTORY, RG 3 KNEE POPPED
He stared at joy that entire response
Also it's Shanahan fault also when RG3 got hurt in that playoff game.And then Shanahan let him come back in the game,for a career injury. REMEMBER THAT
I remember.
True
Everything except when you put him in the game on a bum knee
He had his last chance with the browns. If he would of just ran out of bounds instead of try to run the guy over he would never hurt his arm and would of still been in the NFL.
“RG 3 is always hurt”. So are most of the quarterbacks in the NFL. It’s rare that a QB finishes a season upright much less on the active list.
Did the Washington line remind you of the “Great Wall of Dallas”? Did Cleveland? A QB is only as good as the team around him and the coaching staff. Pure drop back passer are rare now, the ones that exist have good receivers and great lines. Griffin didn’t Luck doesn’t.
Mike Shanahan is a great coach you should get another chance coaching in NFL again if he's interested he's one Class Act God bless him