Redskins fan here, and the blame goes to Snyder and Bruce Allen - Snyder's constant interference and Bruce Allen's enabling Snyder destroyed RG3's career. Love your channel!
@SheGotSports words can't express how much I love your channel. Fact based, no drama and screaming. If more sports news outlets had you as an analyst, less sports outlets would be in trouble.
That is so crazy!!! Those 2 were always told they would be connected and compared forever heading into that 2012 draft. But unfortnely it didn't work out well for either of them
@@SheGotSports Dumbazz Colts fans booing him honestly broke my heart. Dude peed blood for them (former boxer and it's SCARY AF the first time), yet they booed him. He deserved better.
2012 RG3 was an absolute beast! As for his downfall, I’d agree. It’s certainly his fault he didn’t rest up after his injury. Great vid. Easily one of your best.
A player should never be allowed to dictate when he's ready to go. Of course a driven guy never wants to sit. That's where doctors, coaches and the whole management team comes in. It was their failure, and theirs alone, that destroyed RGIII's career.
As a Washington fan I can tell you that if I'm going to split the blame is honestly 50/50 there's plenty of things behind the scenes that Robert did that no one talks about
I’m still a fan of RGIII. His immaturity at times was detrimental to him, plus having Washington drafting Cousins as well was something he was worried about. He saw cousins everyday in practice, knew he could play well, and saw him win games when Robert was out.
Crazy how that’s happened twice with the Washington football franchise?? They drafted a quarterback in the first round who wound up being a bust and the same year drafted another quarterback in the later rounds who ended having a better career mostly as a journeyman. 1994: Heath Shuler/Gus Frerotte 2011: RGIII/Kirk Cousins
@@sickofguysnamedtodd2293 Kirk has been a starting QB for every franchise he's played for since. Washington 2015-2017 Minnesota 2018-2023 Atlanta 2024- Cousins didnt not have anywhere near the talent that Griffith did, but he was a smart player, had a strong arm and was a very accurate passer. Most importantly he played within whatever offensive system was in place. While Cousin might never help get a team to a Super Bowl, he's very good at what he does and most of the time gives his team a chance to win.
That Thanksgiving game against Dallas is up there with Randy Moss' game in 1998 for the greatest games by a rookie on Thanksgiving in NFL history. I was in awe watching him play that day
Life-long Washington fan here & this is the best video I've ever seen on RG3. I'm not going to lie, I was extremely skeptical before clicking play, but you really did your research. I felt like I was listening to one of our local Sports Reporters who had ears on the ground while this stuff was happening. I'm happy RG3 has found a second career as a Football analyst and Color commentator but as a player, he limited his potential by rushing back from injury and wanting to be "Aaron Rogers" when that's not his skill set. A former teammate of RG3 once said on-air that Teams could take away half the field from RG3 due to his lack of progression skills, this limitation is completely unacceptable at the NFL Level.
The main reason Mike Shanahan didn't want to draft him. And one of the reasons he picked up Kirk Cousins in the same draft, a move that angered Dan Snyder.
I remember watching that play-off game against the Seahawks and thinking "Why is RGIII still out there!? They are up by 2 scores late in the 3rd quarter. He can barely walk! Pull him from the game!"
I am a NFL Fan from Germany with no real allegiance to any team. I love your channel as it gives me the oppurtunity to "catch up" on NFL lore that is common knowledge for a fan that grew up with the NFL and football in generell. Cam Newton's career was what actually dragged me into american football, with the highlight being the heartbreaking superbowl result, so I especially loved the video of yours about him. This Video about RG III helped me kind of understand the commentator/host RG III better and where he is comming from. Thanks for all the vids and keep up the good work! Subbed for future content!
Can't believe some 4th rounder in that 2012 draft name Kirk Cousin ended up having a longer and more successful career than the two QBs taken with the first two picks
I thought so as a Redskins fan the day they were drafted because I saw how big of an arm Kirk Cousins had at Michigan State. I thought RG3 was a runner and a system quarterback. He was much better as a rookie than I thought, so I was wrong about his abilities overall. However, if Ngata hadn't injured him and he hadn't rushed back, I think his not knowing how to slide would have ended his career early, regardless.
@@kennethholmes6787 Cousins was always the better QB, all running QBs tend to do well the first year until teams scheme unless they are Lamar or Cam or Vick which are a rarity with their vision
Agree. He could spin it. He just got caught up in things like conflict with the Shanahans who really did have his best interests in mind balanced with the team & at the same time it’s like he lost his edge to keep getting better. He thought he had arrived. But in the NFL teams adjust better. Mahomes is a great example of a QB who does whatever it takes to win. Hurts is another QB who grinds & works to be able to do whatever it takes.
@@r.williamcomm7693 I don't agree with Hurts. Tua beat him out at 'Bama for a reason. Hurts was bad the second half of last season. Daniel Jones bad. Let's see how it affects him with his all time great center retired and a new offensive coordinator that likes to throw it around. I think Philly is going to look for a new QB in 2025. And the Stanford kid they got has been looking good in preseason.
As an RG3 fan I think there is one pretty important detail left out. While I agree, and even RG3 would agree, he should have rested until he was 100% after that first injury. He is at some fault for the later injuries that occurred for sure. I also blame the Skins coaching staff from not saving RG3 from himself. That said, RG3 was doomed after that first season to fail weather he got hurt or not. The thing that made Shanahan a great coach was his ability to understand and capitalize on his teams strengths. He took over the Skins who were not a great team at the time and redefined the game plan focusing on not what was NFL protocol, but what his team could do best no matter how un-NFL like it was. With RG3's speed the read option which at the time was only seen in high school and college made perfect sense. RG3 had 1 weakness in his game, he was terrible at recognizing defenses, but had the talent and speed to mostly overcome that weakness his first season while teams struggled to figure out how to stop the read option. If RG3 stayed healthy, by year 2 defenses had the read option figured out. You can watch film of year 2 vs year 1 and see the adjustments defenses made to defend the read option essentially shutting RG3 down due to his lack of being able to read a defense. So my "what if" scenario if RG3 had not gotten hurt is by year 2 he would either need to learn to read defenses to play a more conventional style of QB which would have kept the read option still viable or, be a career backup. That is what separates RG3 from LJ8. LJ8 is pretty good at reading defenses and the read option is still a very lucrative part of his game.
I don't know how much truth there is to it, but the word I always heard was that the coaches were over ruled by ownership. Coaches wanted Cousins to be on the field.
A former teammate of Robert said the same thing you can take away half the field away from Robert because he had trouble going through his 😮progressions and Reading defenses
The dumbest part of Robert's thinking is that the called QB runs were the plays that made the whole offense work. The option threat specifically froze opposing DE's which mattered because they couldn't block those guys in a normal drop back situation. Second, Robert NEVER took a bad hit on a called run, every bad hit he took was him extending pocket plays and being unable to slide. Robert sabotaged his own career.
Just want to say that both your quality of video and thumbnail is actually insane! Such an inspiration and I look up to you so much as someone who wants to go into the sports media industry, keep it up!
Thanks so much I really appreciate it! Keep putting in the work and you will definitely make it in this industry!!! (Also, cant take credit for the thumbnail tho lol had a thumbnail designer make that)
@@SheGotSports My daughter thinks you're awesome, too. And trust me, Lauren; she's the grouchiest little sh*t ive ever met 🤣🤣🤣. I hope that comes across as the compliment I mean it to be.
Good video. The only thing missing is the fact that RGIII saw that Cousins was running a completely different offense. I'm sure Snyder exacerbated the issue, but I remember it was clear Robert was upset that Kirk ran a different offense.
Because Kirk could run Shanahan's offense. That's why Mike drafted him. They had to put plays from Baylor into the offense for RG3. He couldn't run the regular offense.
2012 was supposed to be the start of this franchise to turn around. We had a great coaching staff. Mike was gonna retire and Kyle was supposed to take over as head coach. We still had Sean McVay who i think woulda ended up being the offensive coordinator. We still had Matt Lafluer. I blame mostly Snyder. 70% Dan, 30% Robert.
@@deathboy126as much as I hate Mike shanahan you're tripping if you're going to blame him for Roberts downfall he didn't want to draft Robert Dan Snyder did
I was at that playoff game for my first live game (Seahawks fan). When that injury happened you could hear a pin drop by how silent that stadium was. The fan base was stunned and I felt bad for them too. He was killin Seattle in the first half prior to the injury.
I've done that, tried to keep exercising and working out through and injury and it's not a good idea.....but I get it, your mind says you can do it...but your body not so much. Now in my mid/late 40s I know better than to try to come back early after being injured (even slightly). It's hard when you're used to pushing yourself and just taking a seat goes against every fiber in your being.
I already know what happened. RG complained about the playbook. They gave him a pocket passer playbook and he struggled in the NFL. It wasn’t just the injury.
It's great to be "tough" and play through pain but it's just being selfish and stupid to play and put your team at a disadvantage! That low snap fumble play he abandoned the ball and it was a crucial turnover!
this one is really good, i still remember rg3 torching the ravens so many years back smh. so bascially his knee injury kinda sent a snowball effect in way? good video!
@@Daniel-bm5gf I'd never felt humidity til my family moved from AZ to IN when I was 10 in 1990. My big brother and I hopped out of the U-Haul in St Louis and were saying WTF to each other. 44 now and STILL hate it lol.
Life long skins fan here, fantastic video! I didn't even know about the college injuries and I followed RG3 very closely during his time in Washington. It is worth noting, the main reason he was so far removed from the starting position in 2015 was because of an injury clause he had in his contract. Him and cousins were nearing the end of their rookie deals and his contract had a MASSIVE bonus if he were to be injured; this was added in after some renegotiations and the team was not willing to risk that much money.
It is also helpful to note, the team was constantly trying to teach him to protect himself. He was used to running over and through guys and when he got to the league that changed, he was never one to slide, and even when he did he often did it wrong and either hurt himself further or the team. By 2015 the team had little faith in his ability to protect himself from injury and that added to the fear of having to pay extra if he got injured in his last season.
I'm so glad someone is finally talking about the fact that RG3 was a head case as an NFL QB. Of course I don't entirely blame Robert Dan was definitely manipulated him into thinking he was a different player than he really was.
Are the Washington fans I can tell you for a fact that's not what happened there's a lot of stuff behind the scenes that no one is talking about like him throwing his teammates under the bus him after a loss or having his dad go to the coach and tell him what plays he is or isn't going to run trust me there's plenty more but I don't want to write a whole essay Washington has some blame but Robert has just as much blame
Well done! That’s my team and I remember this well. I’d say RGIII with his stubbornness and Dan Snyder with his meddling are to blame, more so than the coaches. Sure hoping Jaden Daniels knows how to slide!
Fellow Commanders fan! I still remember the nervous feeling whenever RGIII wouldn’t just slide. Getting his lights knocked out by a top NT is the painful setback he needed. Snyder’s error was not making him recover and putting the whole team second. In fact, his college injury made drafting 2 capable QBs seem like a good idea.
@@ironrevenger9386 totally! Such an awful owner. I do think he wanted to win and would spend money - not wisely- but he did everything else wrong and was a slimeball. I’m pretty sure that Harris will never be like that - I can hope he’s as good as Cooke but that isnt likely but from an ethics standpoint it’s the opposite of Snyder. He won’t give that king treatment to Jayden - who from what I see does not have the same personality as RGIIi (bright but egotistical as all getup) or Haskins (RIP but did not understand the work that needed to be done to succeed). Real football people running the show now. And we can thank Lauren again for a great video - she’s passionate and knows her stuff!
@@davidfiddleman2312 Even Kirk wasn’t done right, but thankfully everything worked out for him post DC We’ll know more about Harris in a few years when the team and culture are fully rebuilt. Jayden Daniels should d told he’s only earned the starting job (after preseason). Both sides of the ball are an issue, but offense is halfway solved with a rookie QB everyone believes in. May the playbook and higher ups know what they’re doing 🙏 Oh yes indeed a big thanks to Lauren. I’ve enjoyed so many of these stories including Blake Bortles’ interesting and forgotten playoff run
Dude was a straight up athlete. As a lifelong reddkins fan I wish things worked out for the bettrr. Losing to Seattle in the playoffs was heartbreaking
You're absolutely WRONG about the Browns. Having suffered through decades of pain, I can confidently say the FO would have taken a punter and high-fived afterwards. 😢
As a Commanders fan, this is the best video I've ever seen covering this story. Tragic how this talented coaching staff and one of the most talented QB prospects ever were destroyed by ego and by Dan Snyder.
He didn't get hurt on a design run, no he got hurt scrambling because he didn't know how to slide. That offense made him great. He was so blessed in hindsight to have an amazing group of offensive coaches
Gotta be honest, I was skeptical to check your video out (cause of you being a broad and all lol) but I'm impressed. This is well done young lady. Nice research, script and editing. Good narration too. I'll be watching all your stuff from now on for sure.
When he was drafted, my thoughts were, do you want Andrew Luck playing 15 games a year for 15 years, or RGIII playing 9 games a year for 9 years. RGII actually got closer, but RG III never plays double digit games per season for a decade as a starting QB in any number of parallel universes. I can't believe anyone thought he would last.
That rookie season was the absolute best example of RG3's elite skills. But that's why coaches get paid millions of dollars too because they figured out the read option offense with a whole year of tape
Robert Griffin III was a amazing player to see on television after he'd won the Heisman back in 2011 at University of Baylor becoming the 1st QB in school history to win it a 1st Round 2nd overall pick in 2012 NFL Draft by the Redskins then now Commanders but if he didn't get hut against the Ravens who knows what his career would be? He should be Super Bowl Contenders back then but that was not the case here RG3 was great don't get me wrong 8:08
Watched him at Baylor. It was an unbelievable time to be a baylor fan. That guy was literally superman or mj. He could do anything he wanted and made dominance look easy. W the run and throw. I just KNEW he was gonna be unstoppable in the nfl too. We all did. It's a damn shame how it wound up, all that greatness vaporized over some ligaments.
Hey Lauren! I'm a Vikings fan who just discovered your channel. I checked out 2 of your stores (Carson Wentz and RG III), and was really impressed with them. Keep up the good work - best wishes for a great future! Best of luck to your Giants as well!
First off, I really appreciate your deep dive into the subject :) Imo, I feel he didn't get resigned for the same reason Jackson didn't get swooped up by other teams.... His play style is/ was too niche. Like said, he was, in the beginning, a RPO QB but was suddenly rushed into a pocket passer when he should have been a hybrid. At this point in the nfl, and still today, a lot of teams aren't willing to take the risk.
He is somewhat of an enigma. He obviously had great talent. He needed some time to improve his footwork from the pocket in the West Coast offense. Had he been afforded that, he could have really been a long-term elite QB. Some of that is on him as well. Then the injuries too. Unfortunate situation tbh.
That orthopedists you keep mentioning is Dr James Andrews…probably the most famous doctor in the sports world as he does all the major surgeries on injured players in every sport
RG3 and Carson are case studies as to why it’s important to focus on health over trying to be the best. The best ability is availability and if you are available to perform your best, then that’s more important than rushing injuries that need time to heal. I remember that 2012 season and I thought RG3 was gonna be my fav quarterback. It’s a shame but he’s matured and he’s grown from it as a person
Great video RG3 was very talented it's a shame he would of had a great career alot of heart however unwise should of sat out and fully healed when millions are at stake the pressure must be immense
Was at the night game vs Dallas, Was in the upper deck and you could see him limping from his mid-season knee injury while they were in the red zone and we were sitting on the other side of the 50 yard line.
For one thing, RGIII didn't learn how to slide until he went to the Browns, YEARS after taking multiple injuries. Given even just that one fact (among others) - he was never going to have a long career in the NFL.
They really should've shut him down and told him ABSOLUTELY NO after he just BLEW OUT his knee in the Baltimore game. It's a travesty how DC handled his injury. RG3 definitely wanted to NOT run all those QB draws, but clearly, he's not Aaron Rodgers.
Same for my Browns with Baker. They 100% KNEW he couldn't throw, but let him play. Now Tampa has a good QB locked up, and we've got a quarter billion weirdo that forgot how to throw.
His refusal to slide during the play was bad enough, but then letting him go back in didn’t make sense. I can see why the Commanders medical staff and management are criticized so badly
Often wondered if the drafting of Cousins that same draft didn't put more pressure RG3 to come back sooner. Also, gotta learn how to slide. That's largely the difference between him and Russ. Wentz hada problem with staying upright and I said he'd go down too and he eventually did.
Shanahan is weak for putting all the blame on RG3 or Snyder. As a head coach you need to realize when a player is not right and needs to be taken out of the game or the season. He’s the leader, the adult in the room.
The great John Madden said " players can play when they're hurt but not when they're injured". Mike Shanahan was experienced enough to know the difference but clearly he his son and Dan Snyder didn't care enough about the wellbeing of RG3 to do the right thing and shut him down for the rest of the season. It was practically criminal negligence, shame on them. Go Hawks
I remember Michael Vick not playing for Atlanta until he felt he was completely over an injury. Dab Reeves wanted him back, Vick (probably wisely) favoured the long-term over the short-term and Reeves ended up being fired.
RGIII was brittle. Some players get injured that starts a chain reaction of injuries. Sam Bradford was the same way. Both talented QB's but their bones and tendons crunched when hit. I speak from experience, 2 repairs on my ACL and another on a torn meniscus. Ultimately I had have the knee replaced. The knee is the fulcrum of the lower body. It's like taking a block out of the middle of the stack-- the stack falls apart. Griffin was too "gung-ho" being a young guy with more desire than sense at that age. He didn't help himself by coming back early; it ultimately ruined his career.
Dang, I feel like I owe Shanahan an apology. I’ve been blaming him for over a decade now and it seems like it was Shanahan who wanted RG3’s best interests in mind. Thank you for the thoughtful video. Still sad about how RG3 ended up
RG3 had one of the best college QB seasons ever. 4200 yds, 37 TDs and 6 Ints. I remembered watching the game when he was with the skins and his knee buckled when he was running. He didn't even get hit. That must have played on his physcee alittle.
Washington should not had played him in the playoffs game, RG3 should not had to told the coaches what plays to call after one year in the league, and he should not played in 2013 and let his knee heal. It is hard for mobile quarterback to become a pocket passer. Steve Young made the transition…but he also sat behind the Goat which gave him time to learn the west coast offense and watch Joe win championships with his arm not his legs. The owner never should had empowered RG3 like he did because he made him uncoachable. RG3 should had taken his concerns about running the ball so much to his quarterback coach or offensive coordinator and the coaching staff could had explained their philosophy and the both sides could had found a compromise to slowly develop and make him a pocket passer. The same thing happened to Russell in Denver under Hackett. Russell wanted to prolong his career and become a pocket passer and it was a dumpster fire 🔥. People have to be who they are and trying to be something you are not and thinking it will happen overnight will most likely not work.
Excellent video and analysis of RG3’s career. I also feel that NFL defenses figured him out just like they did with Kaepernick. Lamar Jackson was actually a pretty good passer in college and played well against NFL caliber competition. RG3 was lighting up cornerbacks like Justin Gilbert in the Big 12. RG3 couldn’t even get his college team to a New Years 6 or BCS bowl, but I guess the Alamo Bowl was like the National Championship for Baylor at the time.
I believe he tore the same ACL twice and it’s pretty well studied that a lot of these elite athletes can recover from one tear, but tearing the same one multiple times drastically reduces the chances they can return to form. So while there are a ton of criticism that are fair about the way he handled things, but the injury absolutely derailed his career
Redskins fan here, and the blame goes to Snyder and Bruce Allen - Snyder's constant interference and Bruce Allen's enabling Snyder destroyed RG3's career. Love your channel!
Thanks for taking the time to watch John!! Yeah it's always bad news when an owner is interfering with what should be a coaches decision!
@SheGotSports words can't express how much I love your channel. Fact based, no drama and screaming. If more sports news outlets had you as an analyst, less sports outlets would be in trouble.
Mike Shanahan is guilty of child abuse letting Robert Griffin play just like Kyle Shanahan is grinding Christian McCaffrey
@@johnmassoud930 Wow! Thanks so much for those kind words!! It truly means a lot!!!
RG3 has some blame in it too. He was immature and blamed others for his mistakes. I wanted him to be the guy but he couldn’t get out of his own way
Tomlin said, "Sometimes you have to protect a player from themselves,"
facts!
Tomlin is wrong.
I say it all the time. A championship caliber player doesn't need a coach to tell him to "pick it up" but to "take it easy"
@@timcarroll5644 Why exactly do you say Tomlin is wrong?
Craziest thing to me is that he ended up being in the NFL longer than Luck.
That is so crazy!!! Those 2 were always told they would be connected and compared forever heading into that 2012 draft. But unfortnely it didn't work out well for either of them
@@SheGotSports Dumbazz Colts fans booing him honestly broke my heart. Dude peed blood for them (former boxer and it's SCARY AF the first time), yet they booed him. He deserved better.
Never realized this. Thats nutssss
RG3 only played at a high level for 1 year though. Andrew Luck played at a high level for 4 or so years.
@@michael7054 which I think makes this even crazier lol
Life time Redskins fan here. This is one of the best video essays in sports I have seen. Thank you.
I appreciate that sooo much! Thanks for taking the time to watch!
2012 RG3 was an absolute beast! As for his downfall, I’d agree. It’s certainly his fault he didn’t rest up after his injury. Great vid. Easily one of your best.
A player should never be allowed to dictate when he's ready to go. Of course a driven guy never wants to sit. That's where doctors, coaches and the whole management team comes in. It was their failure, and theirs alone, that destroyed RGIII's career.
As a Washington fan I can tell you that if I'm going to split the blame is honestly 50/50 there's plenty of things behind the scenes that Robert did that no one talks about
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How NOT to develop a franchise quarterback.
So tough considering he had so much potential
@@SheGotSportsI concur, but his style of play was hard pressed to have longevity regardless…
@@davidtharp2125wasn’t just his style of play; his attitude has bad as well. I heard about that coaches meeting nasty work
bob griffin had ALOT to do with his own demise.
I’m still a fan of RGIII. His immaturity at times was detrimental to him, plus having Washington drafting Cousins as well was something he was worried about. He saw cousins everyday in practice, knew he could play well, and saw him win games when Robert was out.
I think that def played a factor in him not wanting to miss games too
Crazy how that’s happened twice with the Washington football franchise?? They drafted a quarterback in the first round who wound up being a bust and the same year drafted another quarterback in the later rounds who ended having a better career mostly as a journeyman.
1994: Heath Shuler/Gus Frerotte
2011: RGIII/Kirk Cousins
@@sickofguysnamedtodd2293Shuler and Freroote
@@sickofguysnamedtodd2293 Kirk has been a starting QB for every franchise he's played for since.
Washington 2015-2017
Minnesota 2018-2023
Atlanta 2024-
Cousins didnt not have anywhere near the talent that Griffith did, but he was a smart player, had a strong arm and was a very accurate passer. Most importantly he played within whatever offensive system was in place. While Cousin might never help get a team to a Super Bowl, he's very good at what he does and most of the time gives his team a chance to win.
That Thanksgiving game against Dallas is up there with Randy Moss' game in 1998 for the greatest games by a rookie on Thanksgiving in NFL history. I was in awe watching him play that day
I wish I watched. I only watched Giants games until I was like 13/14
@@SheGotSports Best Thanksgiving ever. Texans/Lions OT thriller, RG3 goes off, and then... the Butt Fumble. What a day 10/10 would relive again
Not a wsh Redskins fan, but every time I think of RG3 I think of week 1 against the saints and that Thanksgiving game against the cowboys.
@@SheGotSports nothing wrong with that! BIG BLUE fan?!
@@OfficialJaguarGator9 alright relax man. stop trying to e flirt lol
Life-long Washington fan here & this is the best video I've ever seen on RG3. I'm not going to lie, I was extremely skeptical before clicking play, but you really did your research. I felt like I was listening to one of our local Sports Reporters who had ears on the ground while this stuff was happening. I'm happy RG3 has found a second career as a Football analyst and Color commentator but as a player, he limited his potential by rushing back from injury and wanting to be "Aaron Rogers" when that's not his skill set. A former teammate of RG3 once said on-air that Teams could take away half the field from RG3 due to his lack of progression skills, this limitation is completely unacceptable at the NFL Level.
He had progressions it was that other teams new their plays. Also his coach didn't want him so there's that.
The main reason Mike Shanahan didn't want to draft him. And one of the reasons he picked up Kirk Cousins in the same draft, a move that angered Dan Snyder.
Griffin should’ve waited until his knee was 100%. He had a capable backup in Cousins, and in 2013 he looked NOTHING like he did in 2012.
I remember watching that play-off game against the Seahawks and thinking "Why is RGIII still out there!? They are up by 2 scores late in the 3rd quarter. He can barely walk! Pull him from the game!"
I was such a huge RG3 stan his first season. I'm excited for this video
Thanks Torri!!!
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RG3 got tha "Big Head" and nobody could tell him noth'n, He knew it all and now you see the results !
He thought the NFL was ‘easy’!
@@DeeNice681 How'd that work out for him ? 😝
@@g-love6507 Not very well!
@@DeeNice681 well it kinda was, no? Post injury of course
older and supposedly wiser heads should have told him "NO!"
RG III was amazing when not hurt. I’m a saints fan and we were stunned in the come in that first week. I remember being severely pissed off
Wow I never knew he tore his ACL in his sophomore college season .. it adds so much to his nfl story ending
I am a NFL Fan from Germany with no real allegiance to any team. I love your channel as it gives me the oppurtunity to "catch up" on NFL lore that is common knowledge for a fan that grew up with the NFL and football in generell. Cam Newton's career was what actually dragged me into american football, with the highlight being the heartbreaking superbowl result, so I especially loved the video of yours about him. This Video about RG III helped me kind of understand the commentator/host RG III better and where he is comming from.
Thanks for all the vids and keep up the good work! Subbed for future content!
Can't believe some 4th rounder in that 2012 draft name Kirk Cousin ended up having a longer and more successful career than the two QBs taken with the first two picks
Not really due to their playstyles
NFL teams have no clue how to draft QBs.
Russ in the 3rd as well
I thought so as a Redskins fan the day they were drafted because I saw how big of an arm Kirk Cousins had at Michigan State. I thought RG3 was a runner and a system quarterback. He was much better as a rookie than I thought, so I was wrong about his abilities overall. However, if Ngata hadn't injured him and he hadn't rushed back, I think his not knowing how to slide would have ended his career early, regardless.
@@kennethholmes6787 Cousins was always the better QB, all running QBs tend to do well the first year until teams scheme unless they are Lamar or Cam or Vick which are a rarity with their vision
Browns for life but loved this guy. My poor son was literally screaming at Shanahan to take him out.
So was I.
RG3 throws one of the prettiest balls you’ll ever see
Agree. He could spin it. He just got caught up in things like conflict with the Shanahans who really did have his best interests in mind balanced with the team & at the same time it’s like he lost his edge to keep getting better. He thought he had arrived. But in the NFL teams adjust better. Mahomes is a great example of a QB who does whatever it takes to win. Hurts is another QB who grinds & works to be able to do whatever it takes.
😂 into the dirt
Not to any NFL wide receivers he doesn't!
@@r.williamcomm7693 I don't agree with Hurts. Tua beat him out at 'Bama for a reason. Hurts was bad the second half of last season. Daniel Jones bad. Let's see how it affects him with his all time great center retired and a new offensive coordinator that likes to throw it around. I think Philly is going to look for a new QB in 2025. And the Stanford kid they got has been looking good in preseason.
As an RG3 fan I think there is one pretty important detail left out. While I agree, and even RG3 would agree, he should have rested until he was 100% after that first injury. He is at some fault for the later injuries that occurred for sure. I also blame the Skins coaching staff from not saving RG3 from himself.
That said, RG3 was doomed after that first season to fail weather he got hurt or not. The thing that made Shanahan a great coach was his ability to understand and capitalize on his teams strengths. He took over the Skins who were not a great team at the time and redefined the game plan focusing on not what was NFL protocol, but what his team could do best no matter how un-NFL like it was. With RG3's speed the read option which at the time was only seen in high school and college made perfect sense. RG3 had 1 weakness in his game, he was terrible at recognizing defenses, but had the talent and speed to mostly overcome that weakness his first season while teams struggled to figure out how to stop the read option.
If RG3 stayed healthy, by year 2 defenses had the read option figured out. You can watch film of year 2 vs year 1 and see the adjustments defenses made to defend the read option essentially shutting RG3 down due to his lack of being able to read a defense. So my "what if" scenario if RG3 had not gotten hurt is by year 2 he would either need to learn to read defenses to play a more conventional style of QB which would have kept the read option still viable or, be a career backup. That is what separates RG3 from LJ8. LJ8 is pretty good at reading defenses and the read option is still a very lucrative part of his game.
I don't know how much truth there is to it, but the word I always heard was that the coaches were over ruled by ownership. Coaches wanted Cousins to be on the field.
Lj8 throwing in triple coverage and a goal line pick six is reading a defense to u?
@@leonknight558 Name a QB who hasn't made an occasional misread or mistake.
Baltimore is just a better organization and team. They were great before Lamar got there.
A former teammate of Robert said the same thing you can take away half the field away from Robert because he had trouble going through his 😮progressions and Reading defenses
Love RG3. UK based REDSKINS fan and we will never forget that 2012 season. Division champs and RG3 getting Offensive Rookie of the Year. HTTR
The dumbest part of Robert's thinking is that the called QB runs were the plays that made the whole offense work. The option threat specifically froze opposing DE's which mattered because they couldn't block those guys in a normal drop back situation. Second, Robert NEVER took a bad hit on a called run, every bad hit he took was him extending pocket plays and being unable to slide. Robert sabotaged his own career.
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Thanks so much I really appreciate it! Keep putting in the work and you will definitely make it in this industry!!! (Also, cant take credit for the thumbnail tho lol had a thumbnail designer make that)
@@SheGotSports My daughter thinks you're awesome, too. And trust me, Lauren; she's the grouchiest little sh*t ive ever met 🤣🤣🤣. I hope that comes across as the compliment I mean it to be.
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Congratulations Lauren on the 100 K much love to you.
Thank you so much!!
I hope he's doing better. The NFL was never made for anybody to do it forever
Didn’t realize his completion % was so high! He was pretty good
Good video. The only thing missing is the fact that RGIII saw that Cousins was running a completely different offense. I'm sure Snyder exacerbated the issue, but I remember it was clear Robert was upset that Kirk ran a different offense.
Because Kirk could run Shanahan's offense. That's why Mike drafted him. They had to put plays from Baylor into the offense for RG3. He couldn't run the regular offense.
2012 was supposed to be the start of this franchise to turn around. We had a great coaching staff. Mike was gonna retire and Kyle was supposed to take over as head coach. We still had Sean McVay who i think woulda ended up being the offensive coordinator. We still had Matt Lafluer. I blame mostly Snyder. 70% Dan, 30% Robert.
As an Dolphin fan I am glad they didn't hire Mike in 2016 like they almost did the main reason I didn't want him as HC was his handling of RG3
@@deathboy126as much as I hate Mike shanahan you're tripping if you're going to blame him for Roberts downfall he didn't want to draft Robert Dan Snyder did
I’ll never forget that play off game against us, just a horrible injury
Terrible
What position were you playing when it happened?
@@thawkereynolds i filled up the Gatorade bottles 😉
I was at that playoff game for my first live game (Seahawks fan). When that injury happened you could hear a pin drop by how silent that stadium was. The fan base was stunned and I felt bad for them too. He was killin Seattle in the first half prior to the injury.
@@thawkereynoldsyou got cooked by him admit it 😂
I've done that, tried to keep exercising and working out through and injury and it's not a good idea.....but I get it, your mind says you can do it...but your body not so much. Now in my mid/late 40s I know better than to try to come back early after being injured (even slightly). It's hard when you're used to pushing yourself and just taking a seat goes against every fiber in your being.
I already know what happened. RG complained about the playbook. They gave him a pocket passer playbook and he struggled in the NFL. It wasn’t just the injury.
Say you're a know it all without saying you're a know it all. 😂 Just messing with ya.
@1VetsVision nope just a dumb cowboys fan 😅
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Yeah, if he was as good as they thought he was he would've caught on anywhere else
that shot he took to his knee was just brutal...Love your channels..thanks very much!!!...\m/
"There was no way i was coming out of that game."
- I like him even more now. GREAT video, Lauren!!
It's great to be "tough" and play through pain but it's just being selfish and stupid to play and put your team at a disadvantage! That low snap fumble play he abandoned the ball and it was a crucial turnover!
this one is really good, i still remember rg3 torching the ravens so many years back smh. so bascially his knee injury kinda sent a snowball effect in way? good video!
Ravens: We need to get one of those.
Thanks for all the support Daniel!
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@@Daniel-bm5gf I'd never felt humidity til my family moved from AZ to IN when I was 10 in 1990. My big brother and I hopped out of the U-Haul in St Louis and were saying WTF to each other. 44 now and STILL hate it lol.
@@clevelandcbiyou dont like getting out of the shower drying off and not drying off? Plus HEAT! Not sure how those southern folks do it.
Life long skins fan here, fantastic video! I didn't even know about the college injuries and I followed RG3 very closely during his time in Washington. It is worth noting, the main reason he was so far removed from the starting position in 2015 was because of an injury clause he had in his contract. Him and cousins were nearing the end of their rookie deals and his contract had a MASSIVE bonus if he were to be injured; this was added in after some renegotiations and the team was not willing to risk that much money.
It is also helpful to note, the team was constantly trying to teach him to protect himself. He was used to running over and through guys and when he got to the league that changed, he was never one to slide, and even when he did he often did it wrong and either hurt himself further or the team. By 2015 the team had little faith in his ability to protect himself from injury and that added to the fear of having to pay extra if he got injured in his last season.
Thanks so much for watching!!
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I'm so glad someone is finally talking about the fact that RG3 was a head case as an NFL QB. Of course I don't entirely blame Robert Dan was definitely manipulated him into thinking he was a different player than he really was.
An rg3 and Kirk podcast would be awesome
would listen
I’ve never seen an organization actively try to fuck a player up the way Washington did to RG3
Are the Washington fans I can tell you for a fact that's not what happened there's a lot of stuff behind the scenes that no one is talking about like him throwing his teammates under the bus him after a loss or having his dad go to the coach and tell him what plays he is or isn't going to run trust me there's plenty more but I don't want to write a whole essay Washington has some blame but Robert has just as much blame
Well done! That’s my team and I remember this well. I’d say RGIII with his stubbornness and Dan Snyder with his meddling are to blame, more so than the coaches.
Sure hoping Jaden Daniels knows how to slide!
Yeah the whole Snyder part is crazy. Never knew about it till making this video
@@SheGotSports oh my goodness it’s so nice to have a legit NFL owner again.
Fellow Commanders fan! I still remember the nervous feeling whenever RGIII wouldn’t just slide. Getting his lights knocked out by a top NT is the painful setback he needed. Snyder’s error was not making him recover and putting the whole team second. In fact, his college injury made drafting 2 capable QBs seem like a good idea.
@@ironrevenger9386 totally! Such an awful owner. I do think he wanted to win and would spend money - not wisely- but he did everything else wrong and was a slimeball.
I’m pretty sure that Harris will never be like that - I can hope he’s as good as Cooke but that isnt likely but from an ethics standpoint it’s the opposite of Snyder. He won’t give that king treatment to Jayden - who from what I see does not have the same personality as RGIIi (bright but egotistical as all getup) or Haskins (RIP but did not understand the work that needed to be done to succeed). Real football people running the show now.
And we can thank Lauren again for a great video - she’s passionate and knows her stuff!
@@davidfiddleman2312 Even Kirk wasn’t done right, but thankfully everything worked out for him post DC
We’ll know more about Harris in a few years when the team and culture are fully rebuilt. Jayden Daniels should d told he’s only earned the starting job (after preseason). Both sides of the ball are an issue, but offense is halfway solved with a rookie QB everyone believes in. May the playbook and higher ups know what they’re doing 🙏
Oh yes indeed a big thanks to Lauren. I’ve enjoyed so many of these stories including Blake Bortles’ interesting and forgotten playoff run
Dude was a straight up athlete. As a lifelong reddkins fan I wish things worked out for the bettrr. Losing to Seattle in the playoffs was heartbreaking
Not the redskins anymore that is a racist name
@@Getitstraightyo no one cares about your lame opinion democrat
@@Getitstraightyo I ain’t a Redskins fan but womp womp. Democrats are the only ones who think the Redskins name is racist. So Stfu.
@@Getitstraightyo Hail to the REDSKINs!!!!
You're absolutely WRONG about the Browns. Having suffered through decades of pain, I can confidently say the FO would have taken a punter and high-fived afterwards. 😢
You can’t be talking you look like two years old
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As a Commanders fan, this is the best video I've ever seen covering this story. Tragic how this talented coaching staff and one of the most talented QB prospects ever were destroyed by ego and by Dan Snyder.
I agree with you. He should’ve just rested and learn the playbook more.
Congratulations on 100,000 subs btw
Thanks greg! Nice profile pic lol I just finished the 4th book
He didn't get hurt on a design run, no he got hurt scrambling because he didn't know how to slide. That offense made him great. He was so blessed in hindsight to have an amazing group of offensive coaches
He had even worked with some of the Washington Nationals trying to learn how to slide, guy just couldn't get it down.
Gotta be honest, I was skeptical to check your video out (cause of you being a broad and all lol) but I'm impressed. This is well done young lady. Nice research, script and editing. Good narration too. I'll be watching all your stuff from now on for sure.
When he was drafted, my thoughts were, do you want Andrew Luck playing 15 games a year for 15 years, or RGIII playing 9 games a year for 9 years. RGII actually got closer, but RG III never plays double digit games per season for a decade as a starting QB in any number of parallel universes. I can't believe anyone thought he would last.
That rookie season was the absolute best example of RG3's elite skills. But that's why coaches get paid millions of dollars too because they figured out the read option offense with a whole year of tape
BINGO!!!
As a redskins fan. RG3 rookie season was the most exciting season I’ve ever experienced. Can’t wait to see how Jayden Daniel’s plays
Robert Griffin III was a amazing player to see on television after he'd won the Heisman back in 2011 at University of Baylor becoming the 1st QB in school history to win it a 1st Round 2nd overall pick in 2012 NFL Draft by the Redskins then now Commanders but if he didn't get hut against the Ravens who knows what his career would be? He should be Super Bowl Contenders back then but that was not the case here RG3 was great don't get me wrong 8:08
Thanks for watching Ryan!
Watched him at Baylor. It was an unbelievable time to be a baylor fan. That guy was literally superman or mj. He could do anything he wanted and made dominance look easy. W the run and throw. I just KNEW he was gonna be unstoppable in the nfl too. We all did. It's a damn shame how it wound up, all that greatness vaporized over some ligaments.
I remember his first game against the saints. RG3 was unreal
I grew up in Maryland as a Skins fan. I miss those awesome old uniforms. I also miss when they were good.
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Redskins fan for 40 years here. This is maybe the most accurate video on RG3 I’ve seen. Nice job 👍🏼
You just want to get in her pants.
Hey Lauren! I'm a Vikings fan who just discovered your channel. I checked out 2 of your stores (Carson Wentz and RG III), and was really impressed with them. Keep up the good work - best wishes for a great future! Best of luck to your Giants as well!
Thank you so much for taking the time to watch the vids Alan!!
First off, I really appreciate your deep dive into the subject :) Imo, I feel he didn't get resigned for the same reason Jackson didn't get swooped up by other teams.... His play style is/ was too niche. Like said, he was, in the beginning, a RPO QB but was suddenly rushed into a pocket passer when he should have been a hybrid. At this point in the nfl, and still today, a lot of teams aren't willing to take the risk.
Thanks so much for watching Austyn!
One of the biggest what ifs for the giants is David Wilson. I'm so mad his neck injury cut his career short
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He is somewhat of an enigma. He obviously had great talent. He needed some time to improve his footwork from the pocket in the West Coast offense. Had he been afforded that, he could have really been a long-term elite QB. Some of that is on him as well. Then the injuries too. Unfortunate situation tbh.
That orthopedists you keep mentioning is Dr James Andrews…probably the most famous doctor in the sports world as he does all the major surgeries on injured players in every sport
I saw an RG3 interview where he expressed remorse about playing hurt. The pressure on him was huge.
RG3 and Carson are case studies as to why it’s important to focus on health over trying to be the best. The best ability is availability and if you are available to perform your best, then that’s more important than rushing injuries that need time to heal. I remember that 2012 season and I thought RG3 was gonna be my fav quarterback. It’s a shame but he’s matured and he’s grown from it as a person
RG3 is a good twitter follow today lol!!
Great video RG3 was very talented it's a shame he would of had a great career alot of heart however unwise should of sat out and fully healed when millions are at stake the pressure must be immense
Was at the night game vs Dallas, Was in the upper deck and you could see him limping from his mid-season knee injury while they were in the red zone and we were sitting on the other side of the 50 yard line.
As a former nfl, saints fan i remember his first game.
Just found your channel and this is the second video. I have enjoyed them immensely. Sub’d as I find your video just as informative as FemLo
Wow as a redskin fan I never heard the story about RG3 on calling that meeting with coaches
I'm a Giants fan and before I started researching for this video I never knew that happened either!
Great video per usual! RG3 could've been tremendous under different circumstances.
Thanks for taking the time to watch!!
For one thing, RGIII didn't learn how to slide until he went to the Browns, YEARS after taking multiple injuries. Given even just that one fact (among others) - he was never going to have a long career in the NFL.
That read option was deadly
Superb video! Thank you! Brought me back to 2012... depressing 😮
This is sad, huge cowboys fan for eighteen years now. But man I have a big deal of love for RGIII
Happy Memorial Day Lauren❤
They really should've shut him down and told him ABSOLUTELY NO after he just BLEW OUT his knee in the Baltimore game.
It's a travesty how DC handled his injury. RG3 definitely wanted to NOT run all those QB draws, but clearly, he's not Aaron Rodgers.
Same for my Browns with Baker. They 100% KNEW he couldn't throw, but let him play. Now Tampa has a good QB locked up, and we've got a quarter billion weirdo that forgot how to throw.
@@clevelandcbiTB has a good qb locked up, and the browns’ quarterback deserves to be locked up
His refusal to slide during the play was bad enough, but then letting him go back in didn’t make sense. I can see why the Commanders medical staff and management are criticized so badly
Good video Lauren thank you
Thanks for watching!
@@SheGotSports you know I always watch
Often wondered if the drafting of Cousins that same draft didn't put more pressure RG3 to come back sooner. Also, gotta learn how to slide. That's largely the difference between him and Russ. Wentz hada problem with staying upright and I said he'd go down too and he eventually did.
Exactly. He admitted in an interview that he was nervous about Cousins
It’s so hard to watch this video. We finally had a QB and they ruined that man’s career. Still breaks my heart to this day
Your videos are awesome! So glad I found your channel!
Shanahan is weak for putting all the blame on RG3 or Snyder. As a head coach you need to realize when a player is not right and needs to be taken out of the game or the season. He’s the leader, the adult in the room.
Just Gotta say your videos are great. Keep Going!
Thank you for taking the time to watch them Charles!! It means a lot!!
The great John Madden said " players can play when they're hurt but not when they're injured". Mike Shanahan was experienced enough to know the difference but clearly he his son and Dan Snyder didn't care enough about the wellbeing of RG3 to do the right thing and shut him down for the rest of the season. It was practically criminal negligence, shame on them. Go Hawks
I remember Michael Vick not playing for Atlanta until he felt he was completely over an injury. Dab Reeves wanted him back, Vick (probably wisely) favoured the long-term over the short-term and Reeves ended up being fired.
7:36 Twitter screenshot showing @Commanders in 2012 is crazy
And then in the tweet itself it still says redskins.
You can take screenshots of old tweets..?
Great job, excellent analysis and presentation!!
RGIII was brittle. Some players get injured that starts a chain reaction of injuries. Sam Bradford was the same way. Both talented QB's but their bones and tendons crunched when hit. I speak from experience, 2 repairs on my ACL and another on a torn meniscus. Ultimately I had have the knee replaced. The knee is the fulcrum of the lower body. It's like taking a block out of the middle of the stack-- the stack falls apart. Griffin was too "gung-ho" being a young guy with more desire than sense at that age. He didn't help himself by coming back early; it ultimately ruined his career.
Dang, I feel like I owe Shanahan an apology. I’ve been blaming him for over a decade now and it seems like it was Shanahan who wanted RG3’s best interests in mind. Thank you for the thoughtful video. Still sad about how RG3 ended up
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Everyone sleeps on how important Alfred Morris was to the team’s success! He’s the guy that actually won the NFC East title in that last game!
Light weight, super fast, shifty QBs get beaten up in the pros. Short exciting careers. But short.
Thank you for saying that! 18:03. I truly have always believe that Lamar Jackson is RG3 without the injuries.
Lamar is more multi talented and not as stubborn and arrogant
Snyder AND RG3 created a monster
Excellent vid TY!!
RG3 had one of the best college QB seasons ever. 4200 yds, 37 TDs and 6 Ints. I remembered watching the game when he was with the skins and his knee buckled when he was running. He didn't even get hit. That must have played on his physcee alittle.
Washington should not had played him in the playoffs game, RG3 should not had to told the coaches what plays to call after one year in the league, and he should not played in 2013 and let his knee heal. It is hard for mobile quarterback to become a pocket passer. Steve Young made the transition…but he also sat behind the Goat which gave him time to learn the west coast offense and watch Joe win championships with his arm not his legs. The owner never should had empowered RG3 like he did because he made him uncoachable. RG3 should had taken his concerns about running the ball so much to his quarterback coach or offensive coordinator and the coaching staff could had explained their philosophy and the both sides could had found a compromise to slowly develop and make him a pocket passer. The same thing happened to Russell in Denver under Hackett. Russell wanted to prolong his career and become a pocket passer and it was a dumpster fire 🔥. People have to be who they are and trying to be something you are not and thinking it will happen overnight will most likely not work.
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Excellent video and analysis of RG3’s career. I also feel that NFL defenses figured him out just like they did with Kaepernick. Lamar Jackson was actually a pretty good passer in college and played well against NFL caliber competition. RG3 was lighting up cornerbacks like Justin Gilbert in the Big 12. RG3 couldn’t even get his college team to a New Years 6 or BCS bowl, but I guess the Alamo Bowl was like the National Championship for Baylor at the time.
I believe he tore the same ACL twice and it’s pretty well studied that a lot of these elite athletes can recover from one tear, but tearing the same one multiple times drastically reduces the chances they can return to form. So while there are a ton of criticism that are fair about the way he handled things, but the injury absolutely derailed his career
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It is weird no one would want him at least for second or third string he does have a lot of natural ability
Yeah I was surprised no one wanted to sign him after the year with the Browns. Like even as a backup