My $6500 Custom Watercooled PC LEAKED!!! Now lets fix it....
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My $6500 Custom Watercooled PC LEAKED!!! Now lets fix it.... | JayzTwoCents
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you said "leaked" I was like "who the fuck is taking secrete pics of personal pc builds in others homes"
Mike Sico same lol
RANDUUM same :l
Mike Sico dude the ssame
Mike Sico lmao i also thought that lmaaaaaao
Sane
maybe the computer just reaaally had to pee and couldn't hold it anymore so it leaked.
Well it is yellow
Joyce Scruggs haha
Haha! That's hilarious! 😑😑😑😑
+Turn Down For What? Well played
+Joyce Scruggs Rekt
Welcome to the club mate! Been doing water-cooling back since 2004. I had around 5 leaks in this period 1 catastrophic, 2 almost deadly. 3 Out of 5 those leaks have been from swiveled 90 degrees fittings. I have always used Koolance parts. After careful analysis through the years here are my observations:
1: 90 degree fittings even though quite practical are more fragile and susceptible to leaks. A leak from the o-ring is less likely that the part rotating. Especially if it has a lot of weight form tubing and other fitting on top of it. This can happen if heavy spliters are above. They might give up from a bumps or vibrations through time.
2. As you correctly noted many times the system wont leak when turned off. When running only the pump the leak will be subtle and when the electronics also run the leak is more pronounced. This is because the pressure depends on the temperature. The physics ideal Gas Law; PV= nRT where P is pressure and V is volume, T is temperature, n number of moles and R the Gas constant. Also to note that water in its liquid form is non compressible. My point you is if your reservoir is filled so high up the top you don't give any Volume for the remaining air atoms in the system to expand as the temp rises. This will it turn rise temp and water pressure. Your reservoirS are quite big enough to avoid air from water vortex effect the pump creates. 3/4 to 1/2 of them filled would help. The higher they system pressure the higher the probability fittings while give in.
3. As with everything all part in a system have a MTBF ( mean time between failure). This holds true for every part in a WC system. Trivial for metal not for the rubber rings. Better to buy spare ring and replace them in a system after 5 years if u want to be safe. They cost dirty cheap but it is always a hassle. This is also why important why you must not turn the fittings to much during assembly; just the right a mount. Too much might create fractures on the material not visible to the eye sometimes.
Summing it up:
Koolance is not specifically to blame about my leaks.
Avoid putting angled fittings above or near critical components
Avoid putting weight on top of angled fittings. Always handle them with a lot of care...
Fill you reservoir 3/4 of the size if you can.
Plan replacing part through the years according to each part MTBF ( pump , rings, .., etc) or go for fail safes like leak detectors and control boards.
I still Watercool xD
I'd hate to a catastrophe to a system like yours. Plumbers exist for a reason :p
This is why I air cool.
@@LiberatedMind1 nothing risked nothing gain but yeah
@@84MadHatter Air cooling can be just as effective I believe. Just maybe not as quiet.
Oh yeah, I was having the same problem on my 20 thousand dollar PC too
20 000? -_- what a waste...
+Kali Linux I was being sarcastic
+Kali Linux pcpartpicker.com/b/7B6XsY
Man don't fucking talk to me I'm here to train overkill to the max lol.
One thing I never understood. Well +JayzTwoCents you don't count due to Nizzi, but people will go out and spend 20-45k on a car. A freaking car to drive to and from work to. Then spend another 15-20k modding it, or a motorcycle. I've been there and done that. Still will when I can afford it. But really how much is $6500 for a set of tools? The tools you earn your living with? How much does a snap on rollaway toolbox cost filled with tools? Much more than his PC. Priorities people. I'm a software developer and my machine is in the 2.5k range build on latest gen parts, maybe 3.5K if you add up water cooling and peripherals. I tried to edit some videos and used all of my 32 gigs of RAM and the damn thing crashed. So if I were a video editor your damn straight I would invest in my tools. More cores, more ram and definitely plenty of graphic horsepower. Time is money and when say a software company like mine bills out for x hundreds of $'s an hour, any time saved is money earned.
Relatively, his tools are cheap people thing about priorities.
That Cooler Master intro is more annoying than being forcefed barbwire through the ear! I have nothing against you having ads in the beginning of the video or anything, but that intro was just horrible.
That ad was fun! But we are going to be changing it soon since the competition is now farther along. Maybe next time Ill find a way to make it MORE annoying.
Good luck with that. Next time, have Barnacules talk about 3D printers for 3 minutes, and you have a winner.
Kristoffer Johnsen You mean 30 minutes
3 minutes is enough to surpass the forcefeeding of barbwire. 30 minutes would be worse than death by slowly being deep fried while listening to the sound of pigs being spanked with porcupines.
Kristoffer Johnsen youre complaining but yet you still watch his videos...... grow a brain and dont watch then.
I know you probably don't have time to read all the comments on your videos but i wanted to say thank you for posting this. I don't think many people would fess up to something like this but its something that should be done. You were a big source of information and confidence towards me putting in my first custom loop to my custom PC, less than a week ago. It was a scary thing to think about, I'm only 16 and had to work hard for the hardware in my machine. When i read the title i was actually really worried thinking I'd made a big mistake, but watching this has actually made me more confident. Even when something breaks we, well i know i do, love the feeling of fixing it and knowing what we accomplished. So thank you for showing this and please keep posting. :)
Good for you man, enjoy your PC!
3:55 Glorious Pee Simulator
lmao
#PeeSimMasterRace
at first I thought ur pc was "leaked" on the internet. LOL
+Deramatic Lol same here
Same
Same
same m69
same here
God, if this happened to Jerry's system, he'd have an aquarium before he found out.
lol, so true!
Watercooling is such a waste. Now-a-days air cooling is just as good.
Water cooling is better in almost every way.
Sure but is it realy worth the extra money and work? In my opinion... NO.
There both fine please don't start a comment war
Yes i agree, the intention was not to start any arguments just expressed my opinion haha :)
Brazsty How could you POSSIBLY think that what you said wouldnt cause a war??? I mean wow..... you should have just said Console is better than PC if you are using that logic. ;-)
I want to see vodka cooled videos. Please. Thanks.
that would be a bad idea...
bc your pc would be drunk as fuck... ahhaha
Vodka is aiming fluid comrade. PC would just become aimbot.
DevPre Are you seriously taking his joke?
In the meantime, look up his video on orange juice, milk, and Powerade. Because science.
He did use Anti-freeze. Usually in anti-freeze are chemically similar components compared to vodka. It wasn't very special.
hey same thing happend to my rig...its a 2004 ford e450 cpu 7.3 liters lol...
+Ernan Kadric HA I GET IT XD
+Team AERX deez nuts
+Team AERX Sorry I will show myself out
Lmao
Sad?! Some of us can barely afford a $1000 pc and you have a $6500 water cooling solution?!!!!wtf
the loop is $1000 ish
800$ water cooling system.
Someone's jealous.
ReFL3X He is right though. As much as id love a $6.5k pc, i can only afford $600 pc. Im not complaining, people earn money. The harder you work the more money you earn. Im 14 and earn no money :)
Gabriel Mocanu Yeah but if you could afford a $6500 system and it leaked! You would be pissed
Holy fuck... haven't finished watching yet but I hope nothing is broken!
Kawayolnyo dude stop trolling
EK is one of the best manufacturer in the market.
Kawayolnyo I use EK and bitspower and have had NO failures.
and some of these fittings are 5 years old
Kawayolnyo both are working fine
your argument is invalid
Kawayolnyo stop trolling kid.
Kawayolnyo All rubber O rings go bad regardless of the brand. A better brand might just make sure you have a newer part so you have more time before it is likely to fail. It is still likely to fail at some point.
No matter how good and failsafe water cooling becomes, I'll just never be able to bring myself to use it. It's 1: too complicated to be worth it to me. 2: too much responsibility/maintenance to always keep an eye on it along with any other regular stuff that needs be done with it. and 3: just too much stress thinking about what would happen if ONE thing ever went wrong with it. Then again, it's not like I'm going to enter any serious gaming competitions where every bit of performance matters, so I guess I'm not really the audience this is meant to appeal to.
I'm too scared to water cool
Their is no need for it
The best way to go is closed loop with like a h100i but yeah this is open loop and you have a higher chance of a leak
+super piggy over time, with whatever components you use, they don't stay as cool as they would have when coming straight out of the box. So i guess there it's purely aesthetics and future proofing. And of course those who don't want to custom cool can always use AIOs which are much more safer but not really the best future proofing.
+Joeyb Theman Are you scared to use your kitchen sink? Are you scared to flush your toilet? Probably not, because you know they were assembled correctly by professional plumbers. But those plumbers didn't have the option to assemble your water setup outside of your house, and then install it in the house, so they made sure they did the job correctly. You can assemble a loop outside your PC to test it, there's nothing to fear.
+CreoleRep7 That is not true at all. The Thermal Design Power (TDP) of a processor or GPU is the same when it's 20 years old as it was when it came out of the box. If the transistors in the component have deteriorated enough to actually increase their heat output, the component was likely unstable or malfunctioning long before that point was ever reached.
Your PC is peeing don't worry
XD
***** I will be taking your watercooling badge.... Tsk tsk leak leak.
NOOOOOOOO
Why not fix it with just a bit of Teflon tape?
It wasnt leaking from the threads, it was leaking from the oring. Cant tape an oring.
Oh.. I gotcha now.
well, replacing an O.ring is an easy fix, just remember to put silicongrease on it
your question is to be a question or a joke? looks like you are cheap like you name.
+vann tedd there are fluids that have uv- reactive stuff mixed in, you will need additional uv lamps inside the computer to make them light up.
Reading the comments it is clear to see that few understand how air cooling and liquid cooling work. For starters liquid cooling is just another form of air cooling as it relies on air passing through the radiators to cool the liquid. Air cooling and liquid cooling both cool through a process called thermal conduction. Thermal conduction is the transfer of internal energy by microscopic diffusion and collisions of particles, the speed and effectiveness of thermal conduction varies depending on the material used. The conduction process can be made more efficient by increasing surface area and/or increasing air flow allowing for faster thermal conduction. Air cooling relies on conduction through a heat sink usually using pipes to efficiently conduct to a large surface area, the fins. Unfortunately heat sinks reach a point of diminishing returns beyond a certain size to the point they don't offer any more cooling performance. Water cooling does also reach a point of diminishing returns, but it has a greater potential to conduct than air cooling due to the fact that liquids conduct much better than gases. Liquid cooling is able to move this heated liquid away from the block using a pump, so in turn has the ability to conduct to multiple heat sinks (radiators) and this is the reason that water cooling is more efficient than air cooling, its able to conduct better and to a larger surface area. You should think of liquid cooling more like air cooling, but with the ability to connect many heat sinks (radiators) together. One more thing, usually All In One liquid cooling products are cheap with only one small radiator, low quality liquids and small pumps, so they don't perform much better or they perform worse versus air coolers of the same price.
Hello rick and morty fan. I wish my IQ to be as high as your 200 IQ one day
At least he's up front with his viewer's. He showed his honest opinion's on this and products he talks about. He didn't have to tell anyone anything.
upfront? you do understand he makes money on each and every video he does, right? This leak just made him quite a bit of money. It's his job and I'm sure he thinks for content to put up a vid for all us. And I believe he does a good job at it as well.
2:46 "...the hardest tube to bleed." This is a fact, leaks are always in the least convenient place, and easy runs never leak. My case is still full of my coolant no matter what I do. Stupid air...
The coolant pouring into the bowl reminds me of my fluidy shits without the mushy clumps
This was the first video on enthusiast PC building I ever saw. It introduced me to all of it. Thanks jay.
I only have two things to say. My first is thank you Jay for this video! You've proven that leaks can happen to everyone. The second is....(he,he,he)...now I know someone who blows their own system. A happy system is a relaxed system, :) !
Made me laugh
I would send that fitting back to FrozenCPU!
Back? I never got it from FrozenCPU
Yeah, but don't you think he could use a fitting or two?
That is a sick joke.... Frozen CPU is hiring Jay... You would be the PERFECT expert for the job!
Vernon VonHinkelschmidt I knew your cousin, John Jacob...
Christopher Snow
That's how this pseudonym was developed, believe it or not. It started as a joke in High School, and became my internet identity.
this is my biggest fear, and the reason why I think I'm just going to air cool :/
+TheOne AboveAll Well, ss he said, the more joints you have, the higher the risk. If you don't use a lot of joints all over the place, then there's a low chance for it to leak. Always tighten each fitting though. That decreases the chance for leaking as well. But don't tighten it too much. That'll risk breaking the tube and then there's gonna be a leak for sure. Golden rule... As far as I've heard, is to tighten the fittings as much as possible with ones fingers only.. Or till it feels sealed.
I'm no professional, but seen from a logical viewpoint, then it gives plenty of sense that if you use few joints around the electronic part of your system, then you have to be pretty darn unlucky for it to leak. You can also always test a watercooling system, before installing it on your setup. Test it with distilled water though. As that is what most fluid consists of. If you also run two seperate loops - one for your CPU and one for your GPU(s) - then you're even less likely to have catastrophical leaks that breaks everything.. And you don't have to drain your entire system to repair or change something :)
Soft tubing, few joints and seperate loops. Those are what I would say is the safest bets on a custom watercooling setup.
But you can also just buy premade watercoolers for CPUs. They will only watercool the CPU, but the blame won't be on you, if they leak :)
For most people i think the cost of replacing MB/cpu/gpu far outweighs the benefit of having a custom loop in the case of failure. For some people parts of their income is dedicated to the recreational modification of their PCs (much like some with cars) and can afford a $1000 setback but most people are coming into PC building having saved up for months living off rice noodles or are trying to get parents to pay for it.
Subhuman Killer Wow you're a real piece of shit. You sir can fuck right off.
***** He's just trying to troll. Though he is forgetting that real trolling isn't doing obvious insults. Trolling is just hinting at insults, but never saying them. Obvious insults basically equals what you've already said. 8 year olds trying to be smart on the internet. Which is just straight up Brian.
As long as you don't do extreme overclocking then watercooling isn't even a necessity. Unless you REALLY want to
can i use my urine for the liquid in my water cooler? my family doesn't like to waste and I want to be very eco friendly
Nah it'll become gas in seconds lmao
No, it would work. Pee away!
yeah go ahead.
I feel like the salinity of urine couldn't possibly be good for a the pumps and tubing, not to mention it's slight acidic factors. I mean you probably could, but there could be issues with it down the road.
BAY35 like when you have to blow the system to flush out the fluid
Still probably the best watercooling track record out there. And integrity makes a great channel into a Super Channel! Just started modding on my PC the past couple of years --- the more I do, the more I want to do & the more I see, the more I want to do. (Beats the hell out of drugs & alcohol! [I say this from way too much experience up until 6 years ago come June]).
OMG THE COMPUTER PEES!!! Owesome moment of my life...
dude, I worked in the oil/gas industry, and fittings and lines thousands of dollars leak. sometimes welded lines leaked. but seals and gaskets tend to leak regularly and frequently. so that's why its better to change seals and gaskets on a schedule when u can plan for it, than have it happen when u don't know.
90% of comments: "That's why I use air cooling."
Me: "That's like saying 'Since ships sink I am gonna stick to swimming'"
Clearly not tight enough secrecy laws. The secret police no longer working for you Jay?
Im confused
***** Because it leaked :P kinda like the HTC One m8 stuff last year that ended with people getting fired. #FireSkunkworks
***** In the confused. THANKS TRANSLATE BUTTON!
***** are all 90 ek fittings prone to leaking?
Strando123 Watch the video, ALL fittings are prone to leaking.
Jay, you have inspired me to build a custom loop, but this is exactly the thing I fear :o
Great video and I'm glad it was at the bottom, not over the components.
I just came to this video to nostalgia, you taught me so much about computers when I was a kid :) I used to sit in school dreaming of this computer
I guess it's Karma, since you laughed about Jerry's new PC breaking. :P
Ironic, I just watched a video from Jay this morning saying how rare it was for them to leak.
Once in 11 years is pretty freaking rare.
enginesnblades Plus he's using 90 degree and other rotary fittings all over the place and still only had 1 leak in 11 years. Use soft tubing and good quality compression fittings if your worried.
enginesnblades his pc is overkill and just one leak can destroy a few hundred or few thousand dollar rig its just not worth the risk
SunnyD That's subjective. It's well worth the risk imo.
enginesnblades its not subjective really its a fact water cooling is a waste of time and money these days
I just wrapped my fittings in maxi pads. I refill 3oz everyday
+TackStash779 cool
... Wut?
Maxi pads
rlly
you would prolly save money (overtime) just buying new connections
Lucky the leak was nowhere near any components that the water would affect.
+Vercusgames Maintanence, Yes. The never ending worry of leakage aswell :)
@Vercusgames all liquids will gain metal ions as they flow. So in short you can try this but after awhile it will be an issue.
Well I just noticed the awesome plumbing job. You guy's do of course realize that every 90 in the plumbing puts more resistance/back-pressure/strain on the pump. But it does look better than the long curve's you get from the other tubing.
That is why I use the D5 pump.... it can handle this without problem
***** Wow, 1135L/h. That is moving over 306 gallons an hour. Nice. Never mind. Mr. Jay does over clocking my new GTX 980 shorten it's life?
Jim Morgan Yes, you will be putting more voltage through it and it will be "refreshing" itself faster :) But it doesnt matter really
BarrelDoesGaming
So then it will shorten its life? If it would last 100 days, just say-in. How many days would it be cut short? Oh, and I don't overclock more than NVIDIA's recommendations for said overclocking.
Jim Morgan there is no way to really know that, your biggest concern is heat.
Just make sure you have adequate cooling and it should last a good long while
Can you do a video on down sampling a 4k monitor to 1080p/1440p? I want to get a 4k monitor for productivity and then play games at 1080p because I need them frames brah.
Go into the game settings and change the resolution to 1080.
a 4k monitor at 1080p would look no different than a 1080p side by side. Since its an exact 2x2 scale so 4 pixels = 1 for 1080p. Downsampling it to 1440p would look like poop
***** Thanks for the reply man :)
***** I think running 1080p at 4K would make it look even worse than 1080p native.
Anything not native always look like shit.
Brendan Paul Yeah, but with a 4K monitor you can see the extra pixels and it looks like garbage running at a lower res.
If you put a 1080p monitor at 720p you could tell in an instant, not because 720p looks like garabage, but because scaling up looks like garbage
"We enjoy those stuffs, even the failures" Agreed completely; that's a true enthusiasm right there. Compare to some people who went water cooling without any understanding and whine about leaks and flame this and flame that.
Talking about cooling. I remember one summer where I was at a friends house, and he had to put 2 bags of ice, one infront of his intake fan, the other on the top of his case, because the summer was so hot, the computer was overheating every 15 minutes. The interesting thing was that the ice bags actually helped and the computer didn't overheat until the bags melted!
Arghh It's so frustrating for me who wants to try water cooling but are to scared of something going wrong. Plus to set up a water cooling system like you seems way to complicated ;_;
+Benno Lenno Depending on what your needs are a closed loop AIO (all in one) is not technically challenging on you. I saw a vid recently saying EK have a AIO soloution available now (actually on this channel, EK Predator it's called), there is also NZXT (which I have on my cpu only, with a 280mm radiator with two 140mm fans in push pull config with the top 200mm case fan). My graphics card is still air cooled (Sapphire Tri-x, which is three fans). But I would like to build a fully liquid cooled system when I can afford it. And I,m not really too worried about stuff that can go wrong, after all we learn from our mistakes (nothing ventured, nothing gained)and in life shit happens, you just need to have a contingency plan, then hope you don't have to call on it.
Yeah me too thats because custom loop is for the experienced builders i know they look sick ass but a beginners like me cant probably take the risk
Hope your kid is ok!
That Cooler Master intro was so much better than so many other ads. Yes I am serious.
This is the 1st video of your's I have seen, I am yet to do a water cooling PC but as you mentioned, its summer here, and I kinda wanted to give it a go. In the woodworking world, most of us admit our mistakes, because simply its not about making them, its about fix/covering them so no one can tell. Often times this does not degrade the work, because wood its self is often flawed. I loved seeing that you put this out to the public, because of it I have subbed and will be tuning in.
lol 800$ watercool kit vs jerry aircooler jerry won !!!
I guess Jay´s system is more powerful than jerrys ^^^3x GTX 980 very high OC > 2x GTX 980 poor OC
i7 5960x @ 4,5 GHZ = 2x random xeon @ 3 GHz
the cooling solution not the entire system im talking about
Viking Tech If we are talking about Reliability and Maintenance, then yes Jerry Wins
tks
***** Because Jerry´s using aircooling from noctua, and noctua fans & coolers are extremely reliable. But from performance sight jay wins. :)
Oh thats a shame will you have to replace the power supply is that wet
Power Supply was spared as the fittings arent directly above the PSU and the PSU sits elevated off the floor.
***** what about the fan sucking in the water?
WistfulBreeze a watercooled psu ?. I want it Now!!!!
non conductive fluid
MrBall Breeder Water Cooler PSU Master Race.
I'd like to mention they do make non-conductive liquids to cool with that won't be as prone to catastrophic failure if you're of concern (although I'm not familiar with them as much). I happen to love EK cooling setups and I'd love to add that this was a beautifully thought out build.
If you ask me the risk of leaking with a custom loop is significantly less than with an AIO such as Corsair. When you build a custom loop everything is in your hands and you can have nearly full control over it. Most of the leaks from custom loops are the result of either negligence or simply human error. But the more you learn from it, the more of those errors you can root out with subsequent builds.
Compression fittings are quite secure and it takes a lot of force for the tubes to simply pop off. At worst scenario, working compression fittings will unscrew themselves slightly because of rotational tension. This can easily be fixed by getting rid of that tension or stress, and screwing the fitting on more tightly. Any other failures from fittings is the result of unnecessary stress which can easily be remedied by giving the tubing enough slack.
Apart from the fittings themselves, another possibly common source of leak is when people tend to forget to plug
open ports or even tighten the existing plugged ports. So you can get micro leakage from radiators and GPU water blocks.
A third source of leak is overtightening fittings to the point where the ports begin to crack. This goes for the reservoir, pump and water blocks etc.
And a fourth and common source of leak is when people use too long screws for the radiators. When they mount it to the case or fan they punctuate the radiator with the long screws.
This is exactly why I am scared to watercool. Especially with way less building experience than some of you. There is too much risk.
Hey bro it’s been 4 years. How do you feel about water cooling your pc now?
the sad music is REAL
Old topic, but just found this one... if I'd installed the tubing I would be putting it down to user error. 0.5 mm too long or too short on the length of tubing will be enough to cause more pressure to one side of the fitting, resulting in less pressure to the adjacent side, which would result in the leak. To the naked eye it can look like everything is centered, but very difficult to actually test that the tubing is neutrally centered inside the fitting. Even an extra quarter turn on the fitting nut can cause a grab which is enough to slightly off-center things enough for a leak. I've tested my theory too, by linking up piece by piece, until it is complete, then removing the whole thing and watching it flex slightly so that holding it up to where it is supposed to line up shows a slight difference and the need to flex slightly to rejoin the complete assembly. There is always a little guess work in the end... but most of it is done by feel, which is learned by experience.
I was waiting for the moment for jay to drain the wrong loop : )
It costs $6500 for a custom loop? Damn that's not worth it..
"My $6500 Custom Watercooled >PC
the loop itself is more like $1000, if you want a nice one like that.
Duz evan reed wurds bruh?
my loop was arounds $1100
Sanic How fast is that loop?
Instead of making a computer leaked comment..
Haha your computer pissed it's self.
To be honest I always treat people that make blanket statements like I haven't had a single failure in X years with caution. I've been building computers as a kid with my father from the days when RAM was still in Kilobytes and you had to straighten out the legs of the chip and IRQ conflicts were something quite common. I know all too well that everything has a chance to fail. It doesn't matter how good you are, how many times you check. Give it enough time, enough products you've worked on and everything will eventually fail.
As a vehicle mechanic who uses brass fittings regularly for air valves, coolant and etc I can say that o-rings within these products randomly fail at times and even after removal seem fine. Shit just happens. Glad everything turned out okay.
#to much orange juice. # morning juice^^
Martin Barkaway Nielsen ITs quite a bit more yellow than OJ. Orange juice is....well.... Orange... otherwise it would be Yellow Juice.
*****
Yeah i know-.- sometimes i try to hard:P
***** lemonade?
Corn juice!!! ...maybe thts is the most accurate lol
The days when Skunkworks had Alphacool radiators
1st time I saw the video of his PC setup I said "That'll leak eventually" and sure enough. Not surprised with that setup LOL. I'd never, never touch that. 16 years of liquid cooling I would NEVER do a setup like that. Insane amount of joints.
Isn't the whole point of You tubers to share and learn your experiences? This was yet another great learning opportunity for me Jay... Keep up the great work Brother!!!
Why would you
1.) Spend $6500 on a single rig
2.) Put water cooling in that rig
Destess First of all he didn't spend $6,500. It's a sponsored PC for his channel. I think he paid like a grand out of pocket for some components. Secondly, if I was paying $6,500 for a rig I'd want it water cooled too. That's a lot of graphics cards crammed together and keeping them cool on air would be hard, especially with a huge overclock. Last but not least, Watercooling isn't that dangerous. He's had 1 leak in over 10 years of water cooling and it was barely just dripping out. Even had the drip been in the upper portion of his build most likely it wouldn't have done any damage as long as he caught it. It's easy to catch yellow fluid. Also in the rare event that distilled water does actually fry a component, just dry it and send it back for RMA and claim that it died on its own. 99% of the time you'll be sent back a new working component. I just put my first custom loop ever in my new build. It's worth $3,000 and I'm not worried at all =)
Randy Moss If I have and expensive rig I'm sure as hell not putting water cooling in it lol. I'd do mineral oil if you aren't for air cool.
Because your misinformed about the dangers. There is a risk of something bad happening, but it's not big enough to warrant not using the best form of cooling available. My Titan X never goes above 40 degrees C while gaming now with a huge overclock. It was getting into the mid\high 80's on air and that's with only 1 card
Destess
Not to mention even something like a H100i has a small risk of leaking. Everything has a risk, doesn't matter what it is. Are you going to use some cheap ass air cooler on your expensive CPU too?
Randy Moss Whoever said I was building an expensive ass computer? I'm fine with my cheap build that runs 120fps on CSGO without overheating, which is basically the only game I play.
Did you really just say that your daughter is more important than skunkworks?.. I'm unsubscribing forever.
Ill haunt your dreams
Wow, my dream came true then!
I would love to do a water-cooled build, but this is exactly why I haven't. I have experience in high pressure hose building, including swivel fittings and adapters. All swivel joints rely on an elastomer o-ring to prevent leakage, usually nitrile (Nitrile Butadiene Rubber.) O-rings are subject to heat aging and oxidation. In other words, if you have the system long enough, it's going to leak. I'll probably still try one some day, but I'm fully aware of the possible headaches I'm inviting. lol I really admire your builds, by the way. Awesome and inspiring are the words that come to mind. :0)
Depends how pretty you want it to be.
I used barb fittings on every part of my water-cooled build with soft tubing, basically 0 chance of failure, i dragged that across the country for 8 years without a failure.
But of course fittings like he's using are going to look better, but also be more prone to failure.
I'm not entirely sure. But this may be the video that got me into PC building. Where I first learned it was a thing and that you could make a computer look this damn GOOD!
Well, I just realized that I don't care.
Yet you watched.
OH OH OH YOU GOT SHREKT OH OH OH!!!!!!!!!!! GET NO SCOPED!!!!!!!!!
sounds like water cooling needs to be re-engineered for less failure points
just use plastic fittings
TurboCMinusMinus lol yeah 20 fans
Water cooling is just air cooling with the water transferring the heat from the components to the heat sinks (radiator) instead of heat pipes. The advantage is being able to have much larger heat sinks than with air. The amount of energy that a heat sink can dissipate depends on its surface area. With CPU heat sinks like those from Be Quient, you don't really need water cooling for CPUs. But, the form factor makes this impossible for GPUs without extreme modding. But, people have had great success with CPU heat sinks put onto GPUs.
As for your original comment, they have. It's called AIO water coolers. They have minimal failure points, and they use permanent fittings, which allow better sealing. There is no reason why someone couldn't try doing something similar with a custom loop.
Blowing on the fitting elbow brought a smile to the late Dizzy Gillespie's face.
This just happens to be your first vid I comment on, but I have watched quite a few over the years. Always when I plan to buy hardware I end up watching one of your vids and they are always very informative. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and insight.
Who the fuck water cools their pc anyway??
When you have higher end parts that are pushed get very, VERY hot like 120 degrees so water cooling keeps it much cooler than fans.
i have a box connected to my pc that has an extra i7 fan it cost a lot of money
idk its like a case with an i7 fan in it its pretty small and its does its job well connects to my computer using magnets and ads extra cool because the fan on my actual computer is pretty shitty
+Flash The Reptilian I guess so
+Flash The Reptilian reptilian brotherhood HISSSSSSS
What happens if I drink this stuff?
danshyu naah no worries m8 it's just red bull but colored.
It's orange juice
If I were you, i'd trust that stuff about as much as cool-aid at a cult gathering.
You test them underwater, air sealed to find leaks. If air is bubbling out...it's scrapped. At least that is how I tested natural gas meters when I built them. Maybe pipe doping or plumbers tape would help ensure and make the fittings last longer?
If I noticed correctly, your psu is right under those connectors (sorry I already forgot the proper name for them as type this). if so could be the vibration from its fan slightly moving things in there...cool pc, I'm glad you fixed it and I'm glad you did post this video.
couldn't you just use mineral oil instead of water so if it did leak it wouldn't damage anything?
Two problems with that. 1) These pumps really aren't designed to push liquid with the viscosity (thickness) of any oil. 2) Mineral oil is not nearly as good of a heat transfer fluid as water. Water has a thermal coefficient of .67 K W/mK while mineral oil is at .162 W/mK. This means water is about 4 to 5 times better as a heat transfer agent.
+John Smith But if the water was distilled (I don't remember the actual term for it, but the process that removes everything from the water) then wouldn't the computer be fine anyways?
I'm not really sure what you're asking.
John Smith
Water isn't conductive, the impurities in it are what make it conductive. If you used the type of water that has no impurities, wouldn't the computer be fine if it leaked?
The problem is the water wont stay pure inside the loop. It will be making contact with metals (copper usually) and will pick up charged particles from that. So it WILL eventually be conductive.
IT PROBABLY LEAKED AND BROKE CUZZ YOU FOLLOWED YOUR OWN TUTORIALS! YOU DESERVED IT! NOW YOU KNOW HOW I FEEL WHEN YOUR TUTORIALS BREAK MY HARDWARES!
YOU GOT WHAT WAS COMMING!
How did his turtotials break your hardware
His tutorials didn't break your hardware, you did. Technically.
3 people have just been wooooshed
I’m just going to go with. You messed up and blamed it on jay. K thanks *jerk.
i love videos like this. this went wrong. now lets fix it. then u showed the problem explained the part that failed then talked about risks vs rewards and even questioned if water cooling was really a valid method for cooling over standard solutions.
yeah benchmarks are nice ways to rate the value of products, however i will take real world results over graphs every time
thank you so much for this video
There's not much leak videos. Because, It could be bad for business.I like to see these kind of videos no matter what. So it keeps me aware on what may happen when you have a custom water cool system. That way I am focused with my build and gives me energy to continue to take care of my system. Great Video; "Jay"..
I just put my pc in a refrigirator
Legit
If you did, it would be extremely ineffective lol
How do AIOs deal with evaporation?
They don't.
Your Watercooling vids are so much better than your usual content, you're very passionate about the subject.
Also what I do is I do a section of tubing grab a wall outlet to molex and plugin my spar pump and run water, and then keep doing that through out.
Why is it yellow?
ajuk1 cause pee
Your comment not having any likes is incomprehensible.
He had to pee and his bathroom was being renovated
Food coloring
Why do people even do liquid cooling? Like, other than the fact that it can be configured to look really cool, it seems useless. If you want liquid cooling for a "quiet PC" then why don't you just wear headphones instead? Or maybe just buy some very silent fans? I have super cheap fans that I don't even know the name of and my PC is like half as loud as my PS4. I understand some people want it for overclocking so their system stays super cool, but you can keep a system cool for the same price, or even less than the cost of a liquid cooling setup. On top of all that, we have the leaking problems. I know this isn't a very common thing, but it's something that could ruin your whole system, as for air cooling, if something breaks, you just buy a new one. It doesn't break anything else, it doesn't leak colored fluid everywhere inside your case.
Can't agree more
People want that because it looks 'cool' I once considered water cooling because my computer overheats but after considering I just change a casing which has a better air flow and when I added another 2 fans I think it's as good
Yeah. Especially with the Noctua fans and all. They're silent and have great airflow. I even bought two last night for my new build.
Most of the fluids that are used in water cooling won't damage the components. Some people like to have a super high overclock and air cooling won't cut it.
***** solomonshv Yeah of course. I'm just saying that I don't see the point of it being in a stock build, or even slightly overclocked. I can overclock my GPU a bit and the CPU cooler that came with the processor along with two fans seem to keep it at a normal temperature.
***** What are you even saying? No one that uses a custom loop doesn't overclock. That's one of them main reasons they do it.
Your PC just pissed itself because how awesome it was.
I thought about water cooling too, but the thought of leakage made me cautious. I keep fish too, and play about with that equipement, tubes can harden and even crack over time, especially when exposed to different tempratures, not to mention connectors, just ask any plumber.
lol water cooling is stupid
No its not. Use a closed loop and you'll be fine. some of the big server rooms in these big companies uses water cooling for their servers :-)
+logan spencer look ikr and look who posted this shit lolz
+zodiark1001
How old are you? Judging off the maturity of your...remarks, you can't be older than 12 or 13.
im thinking about buying a pc which is water cooled, don't know if to now.
Zova dude this is a tiny chance, this guy's built loads of watercooled pcs and 1 has leaked, and anyway nothing was damaged he just needed 1 more fitting. If your are doing aggressive overclocking you NEED watercooling
Being proud of something is NOT a sin at all. People who work hard should be proud of what they do, and then should give back too. I hope your baby is doing well. Thanks for sharing and I will check out your channel.
Wow leaks are scary but one leak in 11 years is not bad at all, and good thing you monitored it and caught it early.
I have only 1 WORD to say between the whole Air vs Water cooling and that is......SCIENCE
+KillaDemon12 not sure what you meant by that, but flow can make your statement untrue, either way.
Jody Wilson I was saying that science explains which one is better and why.
I am ASSUMING it probably can be attributed to atmospheric pressure and temperature change; causing the atoms in the rubber O-ring to contract when it is cooler in your location of operation but the hot fluid in the o-ring is expanding so the cooler side has more contracted atoms vs the expanded atoms on the hotter side! It probably created a pocket where the fluid escaped. You may also try Heat Shrink Tubing around your 90 and 45 joints to catch and prevent leaks. But the down side is you may never know if it is leaking to change that piece again before it becomes critical! Their is also the heat shrink tape used for sealing wires too and reinforce it with an apoxy on the ends to prevent leaks but the down side again is you may lose the ability to manipulate your piece movement when all is sealed. To change simply cut with an exacto or utility knife and use some citric acid or some form of a turpentine to remove the apoxy or super glue if you get some stuck on your tubes. "This is merely a hypothesis I am gathering from all of this!" TRY AT YOUR OWN RISK! I am an air cooled guy..... ( Hope it helps for another 11 years which is an awesome track record to me...)
nice video, hope your kiddo is doing well after surgery and enjoyed your enthusiast build. Keep up the good work. :)
Just as a bit of side info to help you in the future, some fittings especially pressure seal things like you had fail. Only are leak proof while under pressure. The highter the pressure the better the seal, since the pressure is what's forcing the seal closed. Momentary laps in presume allow flid to get in the mating surface and won't become sealed until more pressure is applied or the surfaces have be cleaned of the lubricant.
I think a solution to this problem might be the waterproof spray. If you ever decide to water cool your machine, make sure to use the waterproof spray to insulate the electrical components. Or you could just build a mineral oil fish tank pc.
Mistakes happen. I think it was quite noble of you to admit that you had a leak because these things happen and its just the kind of risk you take in both aesthetics as well as performance when it comes to water cooling so I commend you for admitting you had a leak. good on you jay!
1 leak in more than 4000 days !! It doesn't even need to be mentioned. It's alright Jay, your reputation still safe n sound
Jays keep going with your videos most of the tech out there just showed us the good stuff, but not when something wrong happened and how to fix it
Gorgeous pc.. hope the kiddo is doing well, 2 years down the road.