Every Historical Inaccuracy in Call of Duty Black Ops Cold War

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  • @TheFrosty_1
    @TheFrosty_1  2 года назад +1119

    **The Frosty 1 is back!**
    My highest of thanks for everyone's support and patience throughout the past few months. Ye have truly been amazing!
    Corrections:
    - 3:37 This is actually an Antonov AN 22, however the game still refers to it as a C-130 and we even see the US using it later as a gunship in Cuba, so it's still inaccurate.
    - 8:09 The Viet Cong were supplied with WW2 weapons from the Soviets during WW2, however I was not able to find any evidence of the MG 42 in particular being used in Vietnam so it still could technically be an inaccuracy but just not as severely inaccurate as I made it out to be in the video.
    - 15:00 Although it was formally replaced by the AK 74 in 1977, the AKM was still largely used by Soviet forces in the 1980s.
    If you have any more inaccuracies, facts or corrections to add then please do leave them in the comments.
    Thank you!

    • @Zmm.4yt
      @Zmm.4yt 2 года назад +6

      The AK-5 is actually a FNC Fabric international carbine

    • @Zmm.4yt
      @Zmm.4yt 2 года назад +2

      It’s also called AK-5 your right tho

    • @BaldingSince1999
      @BaldingSince1999 2 года назад +4

      Didn't ask. It's a fictional game. You might as well do a historical inaccuracies video on the upcoming Harry Potter game set in the 1800s or something

    • @christiangarcia5348
      @christiangarcia5348 2 года назад +8

      The plane in turkey is absolutely nothing like a c130, I should know because I work on them. What they probably were going for was most likely an An-22 or An-225. The An-225 is the most likely but both size and number of engines would be incorrect.

    • @rebelstormt
      @rebelstormt 2 года назад +17

      WW2 weapons were used in Vietnam , from mg42s to STG44 and even prototype MKB42s so the mg42 is not a sim

  • @mrkeego1769
    @mrkeego1769 2 года назад +4489

    I would just like to take a moment to appreciate the fact that in this rendition of "Call of Duty: War Crimes Simulator", you aptly named your character "War Crimes"

    • @TheFrosty_1
      @TheFrosty_1  2 года назад +368

      I'm glad you noticed XD

    • @fathiazrul3947
      @fathiazrul3947 2 года назад +85

      Call of duty cold warcrime

    • @i.d.9754
      @i.d.9754 2 года назад +34

      To be fair, that is almost every COD

    • @louisduarte8763
      @louisduarte8763 2 года назад +31

      @@i.d.9754 The more I think about it, every CoD single-player mode is pretty stupid. One guy replied to me with saying CoD is a DECONSTRUCTION of war-based video games. I didn't fully believe him, but that might explain why they don't feel FUN to play or make any story sense.

    • @Sully2001
      @Sully2001 Год назад +12

      @@louisduarte8763 every? That’s a bit of a stretch lmao

  • @parallel-knight
    @parallel-knight Год назад +1093

    The MG-42 isn’t too crazy being used by the VC. The biggest crime of this game is changing the voice actors of Wood, Mason and Hudson!

    • @boxfoxreyes9950
      @boxfoxreyes9950 Год назад

      The USSR supplied many captured german weapons as aid to Vietnam

    • @calebbarnhouse496
      @calebbarnhouse496 Год назад +49

      The worst part of the voice actor swap is that they didn't even try to get them back

    • @vapordreams983
      @vapordreams983 Год назад +29

      Sam was busy. James got into shit for providing va for a fan game. Ed and Michael too expensive probably

    • @onejediboi
      @onejediboi Год назад +7

      @@calebbarnhouse496Sam worthington was probably busy with filmwork, but they didn’t even try to get James C burns back

    • @calebbarnhouse496
      @calebbarnhouse496 Год назад +9

      @@onejediboi they didn't bother for either of them, sure maybe he was to busy, but even then schedule conflicts is a reason, not asking isn't

  • @pepijn23
    @pepijn23 Год назад +654

    The reason why the Cuba level is so weird is because it was originally going to be set in Nicaragua, and your allies would be the Contras who would help you to assault the compound and clean up after you, but I guess they were too politically correct about having raping, mass execution and drug dealing rebels in their game.

    • @akosbarati2239
      @akosbarati2239 Год назад +177

      Or admitting CIA involvement.

    • @empereurnico6048
      @empereurnico6048 Год назад +4

      𝕐𝕖𝕒

    • @pepijn23
      @pepijn23 Год назад +88

      @@akosbarati2239 Yeah, know your history, but also not.
      I heard through the grapevine too that if you through the gamefiles off the Cuba level you can see the soldiers be referred to as Nica_soldier.1 and Contra_line1 and so forth.
      Hell, the campaign was supposedly going to be much different spanning years instead off a few weeks.

    • @baileyayyy5085
      @baileyayyy5085 Год назад +31

      imagine your brain rotting so much you think cod is woke 🤣

    • @officercat7907
      @officercat7907 Год назад +4

      @@pepijn23that would’ve been a campaign I would’ve played the hell out of tbh.

  • @dougrodriguez9402
    @dougrodriguez9402 2 года назад +2885

    Here’s a cool fact, in the KGB building, the prison was not in the basement. It was actually located on the second floor with no windows so prisoners would think they were in the basement. Great video man!

    • @TheFrosty_1
      @TheFrosty_1  2 года назад +249

      Thanks! This is so very interesting information

    • @dishon5924
      @dishon5924 2 года назад +57

      Dude wat I have some questions why go through all that trouble and how did they get them upstairs without them feeling it

    • @Chernokam
      @Chernokam 2 года назад +134

      @@dishon5924 I'm no expert and I'm going into this with no research but I think this is probably accurate idk
      1. Probably so if they try to escape they get their location wrong and try to go upstairs? 2. Knocked em out or something

    • @dishon5924
      @dishon5924 2 года назад +8

      @@Chernokam ahh that seems probable

    • @alastor8091
      @alastor8091 2 года назад +15

      How do you get someone up to the second floor without them knowing they've gone up?

  • @Nazrat84
    @Nazrat84 2 года назад +2861

    "How has WWIII not started yet?"
    - Everybody every single day during the actual very real Cold War

    • @davids.3724
      @davids.3724 Год назад +88

      We in one right now peeps just in denial

    • @Epsilon-18
      @Epsilon-18 Год назад +15

      So true my friend.

    • @Jacky-zt5ch
      @Jacky-zt5ch Год назад +11

      Yeah just let it start already, we should be close to it by now.

    • @J03_M4m4
      @J03_M4m4 Год назад +27

      Me when the when the me when when the War is Cold

    • @ynog0978
      @ynog0978 Год назад +42

      ​@@J03_M4m4me looking at the fridge for the last time in my life before shooting it (the cold war has gone hot)

  • @bonnie1020a
    @bonnie1020a Год назад +114

    For the inaccuracy at 11:38, I believe it's meant to be hinting that Bell can understand Russian even if you didn't select Ex-KGB as their backstory, foreshadowing the big twist of the game. As for why WW3 didn't break out after the firefight at the KGB headquarters (and any of the other things that should spark WW3), idk maybe because Perseus (the group) went rogue, the KGB couldn't be sure who did it? I'm probably putting more thought into that one than the devs did.

    • @JohnDoe-dg6vb
      @JohnDoe-dg6vb Год назад +12

      If I had to guess, the guy(s) who wrote the story probably envisioned it as a mandatory stealth segment, where the first half is carefully maintaining the agent's cover, and the second half a something with more focus on stealth where it would be theoretically possible to get out without a major alarm. Then the gameplay guys took that, said "OK," and made a mandatory gunfight right after the pointless elevator scene because it would be more fun.

    • @ゆみす魔王
      @ゆみす魔王 4 месяца назад

      This makes NO SENSE when you consider they also attack the Ural Mountains base ingame and leave survivors. World war 3 should have happened by now. ​@@JohnDoe-dg6vb

  • @elisigmon5505
    @elisigmon5505 2 года назад +2631

    8:13 An MG-42 being used by the Vietcong is actually extremely accurate and there is a lot of research and photos that back this up. A lot of old East German and soviet captured surplus were given to the NLF as war support. You’ll often see MP-40s being used by VC elements as well. You prolly won’t read this so I guess it doesn’t matter but yea.

    • @azurehorizon6097
      @azurehorizon6097 Год назад +391

      Yeah, when most people who think of the Vietnam war, they think of VC with AK47s, RPGs and Dragunovs, when really the vast majority of VC equipment was MP-40s, K98Ks, Maxim MGs and Mosin Nagants and PPSH-41s. Even old French weapons like the MAT-49 and MAS-49s from when they kicked the French out, sure they did have some fairly modern Russian weaponry, but it was mostly old surplus or captured enemy weaponry from years prior, I'm glad other people know about this fact instead of thinking like the rest

    • @redson8441
      @redson8441 Год назад +127

      And French used MG42, 34 against Viet Minh in first Indochina War 1946-1954. Actually the MG34 more common in Viet Minh later Vietcong due to the Communist China give us. Why PRC give us MG34 and some German weapons? Because in the mid 1930’s the Nationalist of China was co-operate with German Nazi (or co-op with Mauser and Zündapp) for weapons and uniforms so they produce Zhongzheng/Jiang Jieshi Rifle, C96 and buy alot of mg34 and MG42, so after PCR take over in 1949 they gave us some of them included mp40... Also the Japanese after leaving Vietnam left alot of German firearms and their ripped off.

    • @redson8441
      @redson8441 Год назад +56

      @@azurehorizon6097 usually the old weapons are given for VC Guerrilla most of modern Soviet and China weapons had been given to Northern Vietnamese Army.

    • @azurehorizon6097
      @azurehorizon6097 Год назад +26

      @@redson8441 In most cases that is true, however since VC and NVA did mingle more often in the last couple years of the war, VC would have eventually got their hands on some of the more modern stuff, though surplus Russian and Chinese weaponry and equipment would've made up most of the VC arsenal for the majority of the war, NVA would still have much better training than the common VC

    • @Eirik_Bloodaxe
      @Eirik_Bloodaxe Год назад +66

      Glad someone else mentioned this. You can basically find MG42s, MP40s, STG 44s and Kar 98ks in every conflict around the world. If the gun shoots it’ll probably pop up somehow.

  • @IkeThemage
    @IkeThemage 2 года назад +1999

    8:12 I do have to correct something here. The Vietnamese forces used an wide variety of axis and ww2 weaponry, everything from Kar98ks to Mas 36s, and c96 pistols. Even arisaka type 99s were used. A lot those weapons were supplied by soviets or just found or taken off enemy soldiers in previous conflicts. It is not farfetched to think they might have had an mg42 machine gun either

    • @TheFrosty_1
      @TheFrosty_1  2 года назад +629

      Indeed you are correct, however, I was not able to find any evidence of the MG 42 in particular being used in Vietnam. The closest thing I could find being used were a few scarce MG-34s, but no MG-42s.

    • @IkeThemage
      @IkeThemage 2 года назад +242

      @@TheFrosty_1 you may be right, I need to look more into it than I have. I can’t find it now but I could’ve sworn I saw a picture about a year ago of US soldiers in Vietnam with two captured LMGs one being an rpd and the other being a mg42. I’ll send the photo to you if I ever find it.

    • @luanfonseca5179
      @luanfonseca5179 2 года назад +111

      @@TheFrosty_1 also i think you should have pointed out the M16A1 which was used in vietnam was Full auto and Semi. not burst like in the game

    • @Blundellmemes77
      @Blundellmemes77 2 года назад +81

      @@luanfonseca5179 The M16A1 is full auto in the flashbacks.

    • @kristiecornell5723
      @kristiecornell5723 2 года назад +32

      @@luanfonseca5179 You've mistaken the m16a2 with the m16a1

  • @scottgregory4255
    @scottgregory4255 Год назад +40

    The fact that the developers made the VC’s AKs look like Type 56s in the Vietnam mission I thought was super cool, but also the fact that there are AKS-74Us being used by the VC in 1968 in that mission speaks to a level of both Historical Accuracy and Inaccuracy that borders on schizophrenic

    • @Xbotls
      @Xbotls 7 месяцев назад +4

      You know that mission was just a dream created by adler?

  • @theladthatknowsstuff9901
    @theladthatknowsstuff9901 2 года назад +504

    Its so bizarre how there are incredibly accurate details nobody would notice if they were missing, but at the same time there are non-gameplay related inaccuracies that could have easily been avoided by changing a date or a single NPC.

    • @thinkingboi9508
      @thinkingboi9508 2 года назад +46

      My guess is that they focused on "hidden details" a little bit way too much

    • @osedebame3522
      @osedebame3522 2 года назад +52

      for some of them it's definitely just because of the extremely rushed development this game had, which also had to be done from home due to Covid

    • @theladthatknowsstuff9901
      @theladthatknowsstuff9901 2 года назад +60

      @@osedebame3522 Treyarch was dealt such a bad hand with Cold War. The deserved better...

    • @aidenhall8593
      @aidenhall8593 2 года назад +4

      If I were to guess, i’d say the separate teams of 3D Modellers and coders had no superimposed standard for realism, and so each team kind of just did what felt right and if it worked in the game the publisher probably didn’t care.

    • @PancakeEnforcer924J
      @PancakeEnforcer924J 2 года назад +6

      @@osedebame3522 I don’t think so, it was the same with Black Ops 1’s inaccuracies, many of the inaccuracies also consisted of weapons existing during time periods they didn’t exist yet or events happening on dates that are wrong

  • @MidnightPlus1
    @MidnightPlus1 2 года назад +1497

    As someone who got into history thanks to games like World at War and Black Ops, these videos are always a treat. Love the analysis here, much love.

    • @TheFrosty_1
      @TheFrosty_1  2 года назад +84

      Thanks! This series was also what got me into history too.

    • @cheesyfromindonesia9969
      @cheesyfromindonesia9969 2 года назад +2

      Same here too buddy

    • @aethericruby
      @aethericruby 2 года назад +1

      MIDNIGHT NO WAY DID I RUN INTO YOU HERE YOOOOOOO

    • @MidnightPlus1
      @MidnightPlus1 2 года назад +1

      @@aethericruby Ayyy Ruby! Small world :D

    • @aethericruby
      @aethericruby 2 года назад +1

      @@MidnightPlus1 ^w^

  • @dauxhot
    @dauxhot Год назад +41

    I like the idea of the game's characters thinking Perseus is a huge threat and chasing him across the world only to find him as a feeble old man in a wheelchair

  • @DamBaker95
    @DamBaker95 2 года назад +1047

    Fun fact: Black ops 1 got me into psychology, politics, sociology and (military) history. I legitimately thought of a subtle way to reference it in my graduation speech from college.

    • @smartfella7914
      @smartfella7914 Год назад +42

      Can we hear it?

    • @willyhamster
      @willyhamster Год назад +57

      I too, would like to hear it. Please indulge us in your graduation speech (or only the part that has the reference in it, whichever you feel easier and more comfortable to do).

    • @blarghinatelazer9394
      @blarghinatelazer9394 Год назад +46

      You can't just leave us on a cliffhanger like that, you gotta tell us or show us 😂 That's amazing dude

    • @theta_clips
      @theta_clips Год назад +4

      3 months later and im piqued

    • @captainblighe7297
      @captainblighe7297 Год назад +30

      I’d bet you just ended it with a ponderous “The Numbers, what *do* they mean”

  • @PencilSticks
    @PencilSticks 2 года назад +678

    I’m surprised you didn’t mention that the first mission takes place on January 12, 1981, eight days before Ronald Reagan was inaugurated as President, and yet the game shows him ordering the mission. Before January 20, Jimmy Carter would be the only person with the authority to order a mission like that.

    • @andrebattiste3305
      @andrebattiste3305 Год назад +33

      Nah I feel like the cutscene happened a couple of days after Regan was inaugurate.

    • @redthewifeyhunter4034
      @redthewifeyhunter4034 Год назад +6

      @@andrebattiste3305 basically to inform him and fill him in on the situation?

    • @chiapets2594
      @chiapets2594 Год назад +9

      No he can order the mission just as I can as A US civilian. Cause I was born with Presidential Authority and am y'all and Everyone in this Planets Commandant Commander 6 Star General Especially made just for Me Mr.Bossman Gangsta OG Sir Lord King Prince 6 Star General Commandant King Lord Sir Prince Boss Jefe Commandant Commander Of All Things of The Planet all I gotta do it think it and it happens so chyeahhhhhhhhhh

    • @KillerOrca
      @KillerOrca Год назад +26

      I guess they didn't wanna drag Jimmy Carter any more than the real world already has?

    • @kaydgaming
      @kaydgaming Год назад

      Reagan has been reported to have had shady relations with the terrorists of the hostage crisis

  • @Ozzydoge
    @Ozzydoge Год назад +163

    Frosty, love your vids but here is a couple corrections: The Minigun in fracture jaw does NOT have explosive ammo. For some reason the Vietcong had explosive barrels on their roofs, causing them to explode. As well as the fact that in the duga mission 23:45 , you radio perseus and his men to set up an ambush, therefore, they all hid to get ready for the ambush (sorry if anything comes off as mean i am sorry i did not intend it that way, its just how i type)

    • @kylebrady969
      @kylebrady969 Год назад +1

      I figured it was referencing Francis Gary Powers, but yes a U2 was shot down during the Cuban Missile Crisis in 1962

    • @Ozzydoge
      @Ozzydoge Год назад +1

      ​​@@kylebrady969hank you for telling me, I edited it for Francis Gary Powers. I am sorry for spreading misinformation.

    • @boasyV2
      @boasyV2 Год назад +1

      bullets exploding barrels doesn't happen in real life though, so i think it still counts.

    • @Voucher765
      @Voucher765 Год назад

      Same here, For the most part he's on point

    • @durmayandurmayan2280
      @durmayandurmayan2280 Год назад

      About last part, if you don't call Perseus for ambush the base is still empty and you also get killed

  • @erkkegjj7834
    @erkkegjj7834 2 года назад +629

    The computer at 11:40 isn't in English but in Russian. We see/hear it in English because Bell was a soviet soldier before he was rescued by Adler and Woods and the reason Woods understands what bell is seeing/hearing is because Bell is translating it for him

    • @UrbanAgent423
      @UrbanAgent423 2 года назад +148

      It's a similar thing to why movies set in foreign countries still have the characters speak in English. It's implied they are speaking in their native language but it's translated for convenience of the audience

    • @aidandai8550
      @aidandai8550 Год назад +2

      The accent is in English, instead of Russian like the other characters though.

    • @erkkegjj7834
      @erkkegjj7834 Год назад +19

      @@aidandai8550 the accent was probably brainwashed out of him (idk if thats possible but its COD so probably)

    • @austinbradley8551
      @austinbradley8551 Год назад +4

      Well that makes sense

    • @penguinsrockrgr8yt216
      @penguinsrockrgr8yt216 Год назад +6

      This would make sense however woods reacts when the computer says operation greenlight

  • @johnfortnite-yc1ss
    @johnfortnite-yc1ss Год назад +507

    8:08 I like to think that the inaccuracies are there because since all of this is in Bells head, Adler sometimes messes up the details when describing it to Bell

    • @killswitch0585
      @killswitch0585 Год назад +67

      Either that or Adler just spouts out nonsense. That's one of the main criticisms I have for this video.

    • @ARC117Studios
      @ARC117Studios Год назад +12

      That's probably exactly what it is, which I thought was kind of obvious.

    • @cableyoutuber
      @cableyoutuber Год назад +12

      I like to think the whole Vietnam segment was just mixed details, like the helicopter being twin engined

    • @thedead456321
      @thedead456321 Год назад +12

      This but I would leave the helicopter innacurracy one in it because that just don't make sense, bc neither Bell or Adler would have seen one

    • @5nafFNAFSquirrelsquirrel
      @5nafFNAFSquirrelsquirrel 7 месяцев назад +9

      It probably because bell has never been in a war zone and has only heard stories of Vietnam so when Adler is describing it it’s what bell images

  • @coltcadaddy2913
    @coltcadaddy2913 Год назад +19

    I like how Woods says that “no one can bring down Castro before me” when he was one of the failed assassinations

  • @michaeltaylor815
    @michaeltaylor815 2 года назад +824

    I mean for the Vietnam mission, it was false memory in our character’s head so that part should be forgiven, jokes aside though great video man, very thoroughly explained and I definitely learnt something new

    • @TheFrosty_1
      @TheFrosty_1  2 года назад +127

      Indeed, Thank you! :>

    • @michaeltaylor815
      @michaeltaylor815 2 года назад +29

      @@TheFrosty_1 Would be great to see you commentating BO2 as well, the historical events in that game are quite intriguing

    • @Gen_ShadowCompany_203
      @Gen_ShadowCompany_203 2 года назад +21

      It was less of a dream and more of Bell being added to an actual event Adler and Sims went through, so was the file they picked up along the way

    • @namedisjay
      @namedisjay 2 года назад +11

      @@michaeltaylor815 It was real for Adler, he was just retelling his story for bell.

    • @deMocskonyi
      @deMocskonyi 2 года назад +1

      I don't think Activision intended to do that.

  • @carnifex423
    @carnifex423 2 года назад +290

    I think the reason the Russian terminals are in English are actually in Russian, but are translated into English for the players. Bell understands and speaks Russian, so it makes sense that it’d be translated into the player’s localization anyway

    • @qurimpv3
      @qurimpv3 Год назад +21

      Also wasn't the text in Russian for a brief moment before being translated into English? I feel like that was in the game

    • @maksuzbrojony8221
      @maksuzbrojony8221 Год назад +20

      @@qurimpv3 yeah but that's just to clarify that it's written in russian. It's kinda like when a character says something in japanese in cyberpunk and the subtitles glitch out and turn into the english translation.

    • @qurimpv3
      @qurimpv3 Год назад +6

      @@maksuzbrojony8221 but could just be our character translating the words

    • @maksuzbrojony8221
      @maksuzbrojony8221 Год назад +6

      @@qurimpv3 yeah but you have a neco arc pfp

    • @qurimpv3
      @qurimpv3 Год назад +6

      @@maksuzbrojony8221 burunyuu

  • @timniemi3044
    @timniemi3044 Год назад +215

    Even with the historical flaws, I still think this campaign is among the best in the series. Great video!

    • @supermemegenerator267
      @supermemegenerator267 Год назад +9

      Agreed, the campaign really hooked me

    • @Freelancer837
      @Freelancer837 Год назад +4

      Wait until you play one of the good ones, it'll blow your socks off

    • @BrishFolk
      @BrishFolk Год назад

      Currently replaying I am on desperate measures

    • @MISTERX_5890
      @MISTERX_5890 Год назад +7

      this one is nothing compared to the older ones. BO 1&2, the original Modern Warfares, WAW were all much better

    • @ChandranPrema123
      @ChandranPrema123 Год назад +1

      ​@@MISTERX_5890what play the Campaign and then say this.What do you mean it's nothing compared to BO1 and BO2?
      Does Black Ops 1 have choices and player replayability ?
      Any Mission that isn't a Shooting Gallery?
      This Campaign is alongside BO1 and BO2 only problem is it's very short

  • @chrisjanicki4031
    @chrisjanicki4031 2 года назад +280

    Fun fact. Caches of ww2 weapons were found in Vietnam, gulf War, Iraq and Afghanistan. It wasn't rare but wasn't uncommon for the viet cong found to be using mg42 and 34s from the soviet union as the firearm production facility was located in czechoslovakia and was seized by the soviet union and sent to Vietnam

    • @redpolscorp
      @redpolscorp Год назад +13

      My thoughts exactly.

    • @chrisjanicki4031
      @chrisjanicki4031 Год назад

      @patrick callaghan a man of culture I see 😎

    • @redpolscorp
      @redpolscorp Год назад

      @patrick callaghan Just gettin' a stroke because... Same

    • @wolfehoffmann2697
      @wolfehoffmann2697 Год назад

      @@chrisjanicki4031 Hardly. Mark Felton isn't a real historian. He's just some asshole who reads wikipedia articles and caches checks from RUclips ad revenue. He has also on several occasions been caught just making shit up. He's like the Bill Nye of Historians. An unearned honorary degree and title, but popular anyways because of a catchy presentation method.

  • @brothermothoftheflame857
    @brothermothoftheflame857 Год назад +12

    In regards to the 7 years wait to get a car, Regan actually made a joke about it.

  • @A_Shrubbery1901
    @A_Shrubbery1901 Год назад +304

    I feel like we can take away the fracture jaw inaccuracies cause that mission is essentially a dream

    • @danelisslow3269
      @danelisslow3269 Год назад +55

      Yeah that's just what a Russian thinks Vietnam was like, understandable bell would be a bit fuzzy on what month particular songs came out.

  • @Archangel_158
    @Archangel_158 2 года назад +238

    The part regarding the MG42 does actually have some accuracy to it. As the Soviets were supplying the Viet Cong, they would quite often receive shipments of WW2-era weapons. There are a few photos of weapons such as MP40’s and STG44’s in the hands of the Viet Cong and US troops fielding like-captured equipment. As for the topic of the MG42 specifically, I am not entirely sure. It’s not entirely impossible.

    • @Ozzydoge
      @Ozzydoge Год назад +12

      True, but there is no evidence that MG-42 was used in Vietnam. The closest thing I and Frosty himself had found, were a couple MG-34's.

    • @spookyengie735
      @spookyengie735 Год назад +7

      @@Ozzydoge Being a Vietnamese armorer, i can tell you MG-42 was use in the Vietnam War, We even have Hotchkiss Mg use as late as 1980~ against the Chinese in Lang son.

    • @Ozzydoge
      @Ozzydoge Год назад

      @@spookyengie735 my bad

  • @jackgamer6307
    @jackgamer6307 Год назад +11

    Fun fact: There was a single nuclear weapon in the history of the united states that did not require direct presidential authorisation to deploy-
    The Air-2A Genie Rocket was an unguided air to air rocket with a nuclear warhead that was designed to wipe out bomber formations in a single hit. It was made in the '60s, but was still in service untill the '80s

    • @jackgamer6307
      @jackgamer6307 Год назад

      @Tigran-Abazyan Taken out of service in the 80'sbecause it would be useless today. A few examples still exist in museums

  • @munanchoinc
    @munanchoinc Год назад +88

    One thing of note is that during the Vietnam war. Many surplus weapons from WW2 were used. Including the Kar98ks and the Mosin Nagant.

    • @senatorcake
      @senatorcake Год назад +4

      yooo it's the everything wrong with video game weapons guy! wassup

    • @dimsthedimwit600
      @dimsthedimwit600 10 месяцев назад

      The Mosin doesn't count, it just always appears in the hands of millitants of any war, esspecially if the conflict is related in any way to Russians

    • @5nafFNAFSquirrelsquirrel
      @5nafFNAFSquirrelsquirrel 7 месяцев назад

      When the guy who says what’s wrong with current weapons in game, tells you that it’s not inaccurate for ww2 to be in Vietnam, you know your done

  • @Bernesemtdog
    @Bernesemtdog 2 года назад +139

    One thing that bothered me in Cold War. The M16A1’s have 30 rounds in them, the standard capacity magazines at the time were 20, 30’s were really only more widely used in the later years of the war but were finicky at best

    • @emberfist8347
      @emberfist8347 2 года назад +22

      I would thing that MACV SOG would have the bigger magazines on hand easier than other soldiers due to being elite units and all. But I might be wrong.

    • @scowler7200
      @scowler7200 Год назад

      @@emberfist8347
      They experimented with spot-welded 40-round mags among other feats of redneck engineering. 30-round mags were issued in 1972. The reason STANAG magazines are finicky is due to the sidewalls becoming slightly dented and causing the follower to drag on the way up.
      It's why PMAGs are popular.

    • @EthanMckinnell
      @EthanMckinnell Год назад +1

      yep big mags were a thing but not used extensively, and even they usually removed 2 because of the malfunctions they caused with the M16A1

    • @nunyabusiness4904
      @nunyabusiness4904 Год назад

      I noticed that too and the magazines shown on the weapon models are the 20 round magazines. If I remember right the original Black Ops did the same thing.

    • @Commander-vf1lk
      @Commander-vf1lk Год назад

      The reason why is for game balance. 20 bullets in a mag felt too short for people to enjoy. You have reload every so often. I do agree but only for certain guns I wish had a 30 round mag instead 20 like the BAR (Browning Automatic Rifle). Since this is a game, I prefer weapons to have 30 round mag as standard. It’s the feeling. Even if I were a real soldier, I hate reloading frequently due to low ammo capacity per mag. I only got 1 life. In a video game, you’d die often due to the amount of times you’ve to reload when using a 20 round mag gun. Realistically, most ARs are used semi-auto. Not full auto for many realistic reasons. Sad to see many gamers think full auto is standard for military when it’s not from a realistic standpoint.
      This happened to Day of Infamy (Steam Game). When you play as US, I noticed the Thompson originally had the 20 round mag but many players complained so the devs changed it to a 30 round mag as standard in-game.

  • @lowlife1368
    @lowlife1368 Год назад +42

    6:08 probably the largest historical accuracy in the entire game

    • @Jaxrayh
      @Jaxrayh Год назад +5

      inaccuracy*
      ohhh i see what you did there

    • @xplatypus516
      @xplatypus516 Год назад +8

      It’s infected all of our entertainment

    • @Sherfiee
      @Sherfiee 7 месяцев назад

      oh no!
      anyway​@@xplatypus516

  • @Host_has_been_found
    @Host_has_been_found 2 года назад +279

    One minor correction, the reason why some things are in English instead of Russian, German, etc. is because Bell is bilingual. Adler even says that's why he's/she's/or whatever's on the team

    • @HistoryNerd8765
      @HistoryNerd8765 2 года назад

      Bullshit. If you're bilingual, words don't magically turn into another language.

    • @Host_has_been_found
      @Host_has_been_found 2 года назад +24

      @Tomboy Respecter Well yeah but it's meant to be a visual thing so that the player can understand the words

    • @theo_2949
      @theo_2949 2 месяца назад

      ​@@Host_has_been_found Ye let's be honest lads like the corrections are over the top in these videos and strict. I mean it was a game made to appeal to a gaming audience not for Historians to realise if certain gun models or newspapers were a year too early in the game mission

  • @WarbossR0kt00fSant0s
    @WarbossR0kt00fSant0s Год назад +121

    18:30 That technically should not count as a historical inaccuracy, should be more like a glitch or a weapon placement bug which has nothing to do with historical accuracy.

    • @sauceyvirg1n910
      @sauceyvirg1n910 10 месяцев назад +1

      Even so, it would be a security risk in real life even if it wasn't intentional to happen in the game

    • @thebasedspectre3048
      @thebasedspectre3048 9 месяцев назад +13

      ​@@sauceyvirg1n910 it's a bug

    • @seanmarley3598
      @seanmarley3598 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@thebasedspectre3048 That didn't matter. Because in real life situation, it would high security risk.

    • @thebasedspectre3048
      @thebasedspectre3048 5 месяцев назад +2

      @seanmarley3598 if you're a soldier the you would get pulled up about it and get your ass chewed out before you even got into the lobby
      So yeah it's a glitch

  • @SomeOne-pd6vm
    @SomeOne-pd6vm Год назад +20

    I'm surprised you never brought up the T-72, which has over 30 issues in itself. Some more blatant ones being the exhaust being on the wrong side, the IR spotlight just being a regular lamp, the gun missing its distinctive red primer, the ERA being anachronistic and also being placed above handles which would not have been equipped at the same time, the roof MG which is just completely wrong, and the crew for some reason having a bunch of extra magazines strapped to them and their uniforms just being wrong in basically every way. It's worse than the Vanguard Stuka, especially so considering how well documented different T-72 models are.

  • @rajingcajun488
    @rajingcajun488 2 года назад +128

    Actually, ghost stations where the West Berlin U-barn went under East Berlin were very much a thing. It was just a product of how the underground was designed. There were guards at the unused stops, but it’s not a particularly far-fetched plot point for a spy thriller like this

    • @akosbarati2239
      @akosbarati2239 Год назад +1

      Yes, but everything else was. One, U-Bahn couldn't stop willingly. IIRC in 1985 one train got suck for 3 hours at a ghost station and the Stasi amped up guarding immediately. There was no footway to a ghost station, iron gates took care of and the keys were kept by a loyalist who only opened it on call. Original exits of the stations were sealed, and border guards left at other entrances, heavily guarded. So nope nope nope, after them killing the soldiers at the ghost it's already mission failed, the whole Stasi on high alert and all borders are closed.

    • @rajingcajun488
      @rajingcajun488 Год назад +1

      @@akosbarati2239 they didn’t get off from it stopping. They break a rear door open and jump off

  • @tuananhphung577
    @tuananhphung577 Год назад +110

    The way you even cares about the drink price is outstanding!
    Keep up like this, Frost!

    • @TheFrosty_1
      @TheFrosty_1  Год назад +9

      Thanks, will do!

    • @dan.9231
      @dan.9231 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@TheFrosty_1 Hey friend, what can you tell me about the team that Adler wears? Is it anachronistic or not?

  • @The_Republic_of_Ireland
    @The_Republic_of_Ireland Год назад +9

    I nearly winded myself laughing when I saw you named Bell War Crimes 🤣🤣

  • @mrred5125
    @mrred5125 2 года назад +47

    The great one has returned

  • @GeorgeDemin
    @GeorgeDemin 2 года назад +229

    19:30 just a minor thing - the car is not Lada, it’s Gaz-24, which was produced from 1968 until 1986

    • @TheFrosty_1
      @TheFrosty_1  2 года назад +61

      Thank you for the correction

    • @GeorgeDemin
      @GeorgeDemin 2 года назад +22

      @@TheFrosty_1 thank you for a thorough and interesting video!

    • @TacticalToast99
      @TacticalToast99 2 года назад +7

      @@TheFrosty_1 one small correction, the MG42 was used by the NVA during the Vietnam war, as it was supplied to them by the Soviets who had them from ww2
      In fact many of the weapons the NVA used was old ww2 weapons such as the MP40, Kar98k, Japanese Arisaka rifle's, American Thompson smg, PPSh41, Mosin Nagant, M1 Garand, Walther p38, Type 99 and many other ww2 weapons from Germany, Russia, Japan and even American ww2 weapons.

    • @al_the_crow
      @al_the_crow Год назад

      to be exact its a kgb modification of regular 24 - a gaz-24-24.

  • @Jacky-zt5ch
    @Jacky-zt5ch Год назад +4

    “The Lubyanka building does not have a bunker” but that’s exactly what the KGB would want you to think if they do actually have a nuclear bunker.

  • @ahmadsuleman9045
    @ahmadsuleman9045 2 года назад +175

    25:25 I believe the grenade launcher is actually the hawk mm1 grenade launcher (this gun also made an appearance in Black Ops 2) which was produced during the 1970s, and did see full production, so I think that it shouldn't count as a sin

    • @TheFrosty_1
      @TheFrosty_1  2 года назад +73

      Thank you for pointing this out to me, I did not know they remade this weapon in the 1970s. However it's appearance is still a bit far-fetched since the hawk mm1 was made in very limited amounts and although it was thought to have been adopted briefly by the US Special Forces it is unclear if they ever used the weapon in combat.

    • @PillzSufrie
      @PillzSufrie 2 года назад +21

      @@TheFrosty_1 more likely it's a small callback to black ops 2 which also featured this weapon in the campaign

  • @deewillis2170
    @deewillis2170 Год назад +179

    10:07 Considering the mission takes place in East Germany, it's possible that the enemies are supplied, at least in part, by Diestenheit IX (I hope I spelled that right), who did absolutely have HK weapons, namely HK33's, 53's, MP5A3's, some MP5SD's, MP5K's, and even some G3SG1 or PSG1 rifles, dating back to the 80's at the very latest, but some information points more towards them obtaining the equipment in the late 70's. They technically used some ruses and proxies to broker the deal, but HK, by some reports, quickly found out it was the East Germans while continuing to sell to them.

    • @akosbarati2239
      @akosbarati2239 Год назад

      It would still be a huge nope, as up until the GDR being exposed as using a cruise for weapon smuggling, all of what you had said was such a deep secret that only a select few within the Stasi knew about it. They would have never used those weapons in the open.

    • @achmedachmadinijad7438
      @achmedachmadinijad7438 Год назад +5

      You probably mean Diensteinheit (Dienst = service, Einheit = unit)
      But thank you for this comment nonetheless
      As an East German I didn't even know that something like this unit existed

    • @supermemegenerator267
      @supermemegenerator267 10 месяцев назад +1

      The thing is that Diensteinheit IX Personnel didn’t wear typical Police dress uniforms but instead they wore strichtarn uniforms combat vests and ballistic helmets and also they often wore a balaclava.

    • @deewillis2170
      @deewillis2170 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@supermemegenerator267 considering Diensteinheit IX was less of a regular police force and more of a counter-terrorism unit, it only makes sense they would use uniforms which cut a more militant profile. They may have been one of the most well supplied units in all of the Soviet Bloc. Commonly seen alongside DEIX operators are Tig helmets (of which the Soviet Altyn is based on), HK weapons, as mentioned before, as well as all sorts of Combloc weaponry, with the PM63 "Rak" or Makarov being some of the most commonly seen in pictures or training footage. They also had, as you said, body armor. From the looks of it, they were soft armor vests, although stronger armors were probably available. I also think it's a bit interesting that such armor was so common in the unit, as most armor prior to the 90's or so was bulky flak vests with the occasional metal insert, not the relatively low-profile aramid vests as they had.

    • @british35
      @british35 6 месяцев назад

      Regardless, it’s not entirely out of the ordinary for military weapons being given to police forces, which sufficiently explains why Volkspolizei are armed with MP5s here

  • @demkillerus
    @demkillerus 5 месяцев назад +3

    The akm although stopped production, was still used! Up until modern day, in most countries the military uses old firearms that stopped production, because of shortages

  • @swempytimes
    @swempytimes 2 года назад +137

    Thank you for doing this, this has been a wonderful history lesson

  • @Jinx-hq5yo
    @Jinx-hq5yo 2 года назад +267

    Even with 2 endings still less inaccuracies than vanguard 💀

    • @TheFrosty_1
      @TheFrosty_1  2 года назад +113

      Nothing will beat the mess that was Vanguard

    • @highoctanesynx7950
      @highoctanesynx7950 2 года назад +26

      Treyarch can be as inaccurate as they can they will never beat sledgehammer

    • @Bluesjet1234
      @Bluesjet1234 2 года назад +2

      Both games equally suck!!!!

    • @justsomedude1138
      @justsomedude1138 2 года назад +32

      @@Bluesjet1234 that's... Not true... Atleast cold war had an ok zombies mode with a decent campaign and a shit multiplayer until it's lifecycle was over😂 vanguard was just shit all around and hasn't gotten better with time so far

    • @chaoticchaos2177
      @chaoticchaos2177 Год назад +1

      @@justsomedude1138 tbh All three modes were amazing in my opinion, I honestly think its better than MW19/MW22

  • @vermark8719
    @vermark8719 Год назад +10

    The VC were given massive stockpiles of captured WW2 surplus from the soviets, so the MG42 is very accurate. The VC actually liked using them to shoot at helicopters. Also the training center could have the US or NATO weapons for training purposes.

  • @Rakhons
    @Rakhons 2 года назад +300

    As a history enthusiast, it makes me dissappointed to see a video game that takes place in the 1980s during the Cold War, and yet we don't have any missions that were set in real life conflicts happened back then. Imagine having some missions where Mason, Woods, or Adler were doing a secret operations during South African Border War, Mozambican Civil War, Nicaraguan Revolution, Invasion of Grenada, The Troubles, Eritrean War of Independence, Iran-Iraq War, or Lebanese Civil War. Even better, the CIA were ACTUALLY involved in some of those wars in real life! Making the slogan "Know Your History" at 28:05 more misleading and it's a big missed opportunity from Treyarch.
    Also by looking at insane amounts of inaccuracies in the video, it's a proof that portrayal of Cold War here was too exaggerated, fictionalized and stereotypical. They didn't even try to make the storyline as dark as BO1, and every random crap they put in both campaign & warzone has nothing to do with real events.

    • @CommanderLongJohn
      @CommanderLongJohn 2 года назад +28

      It's so pathetic, the developers clearly didn't give a rats twat hair about actual history and accurately depicting it, educating players about hardly known-or lesser analyzed-aspects to history like in WaW/BLO1/BLO2, so many inaccuracies in this game it's asinine and unexcusable..

    • @rangerv1
      @rangerv1 2 года назад +10

      @@ReviveHF aparently the next tryarch game i supposed to be the gulf war so i’m assuming we’ll see a lot of that in there

    • @MrSwccguy
      @MrSwccguy 2 года назад +10

      Bro it's a game

    • @alex91849
      @alex91849 2 года назад +31

      Its even funnier when they removed a half second clip of the tianeman square massacre from their trailer after china got mad.

    • @zffrailgun1630
      @zffrailgun1630 2 года назад +21

      @@ReviveHF Wow, the amount of lies and misinformation here is impressive. Treyarch was not supposed to release BOCW. Treyarch started game development after they finished with BO4. Treyarch was supposed to release a game in 2021, but due to SHG and Raven having disputes over the game they were supposed to release, Activision told Treyarch to release a game in that year instead. So Treyarch had to drop their project and instead very quickly develop a game within 1.5 years (hence why the new IW engine wasn't used and it was instead a modified BO4 engine). It is beyond impressive that Treyarch managed to release a product like BOCW under the conditions they were thrusted, and to see people online say whatever nonsense comes to their mind and shit on the devs for something they're not responsible for is absolutely asinine. If you don't know the circumstances, don't comment on them.

  • @4T3hM4kr0n
    @4T3hM4kr0n 2 года назад +88

    12:31 yes there were explosive rounds for the 12.7mm. The type were known as "Immediate action incendiary"

  • @Imanonion
    @Imanonion Год назад +7

    I swear bro probably corrected the history teacher every single day

  • @fordo1119
    @fordo1119 2 года назад +92

    as much as I like this campaign, the small details like this make it no where as close as waw and bo1 (even tho bo1 had a few inaccuracies) great stuff dude!

    • @TheFrosty_1
      @TheFrosty_1  2 года назад +12

      Agreed, thanks! :>

    • @fordo1119
      @fordo1119 2 года назад +4

      @aveteranplayer6403 yeah but even a lot of the weapons in bo1 weren't even invented yet

    • @fereise208
      @fereise208 2 года назад +4

      I'd say there's a lot of inaccuracies in BO1, especially in terms of weapons, equipment, and uniforms (esp. enemies).

    • @HistoryNerd8765
      @HistoryNerd8765 2 года назад +3

      WaW is still king in my opinion.

    • @fordo1119
      @fordo1119 2 года назад

      @@HistoryNerd8765 valid valid

  • @defaultpenguin2598
    @defaultpenguin2598 2 года назад +69

    23:30 Actually the training complex in Ukraine did exist, but it was a radar complex, not the training grounds with a top secret data.

    • @somedud1140
      @somedud1140 Год назад +7

      That's a really complicated way to say that the training ground didn't exist. Moreover, this kind of immersion training is purely US thing, soviets didn't even make opfor vehicles to look like western.

  • @david-nn1pw
    @david-nn1pw Год назад +17

    8:12 That machine gun may actually be the M53, the yogoslavian rip-off of the german MG42. It was extensively used from the 1950s by the yugoslavian army, and it was also later exported to some countries of the soviet eastern bloc. So even though it is unlikely to be used in the vietnam war, it is not *that* unrealistic.

    • @HelghastStalker
      @HelghastStalker 11 месяцев назад +2

      Not to mention, a *lot* of GPW-era hardware found its way into Vietnam.

  • @Basarius
    @Basarius 2 года назад +144

    Great video so far, I haven't watched it all the way through yet. A somewhat OK explanation as to why some of the parts after you take control of "Bell" is that Alder doesn't need to remember every detail correctly, just the parts that get him the information he needs. So place names and anachronistic items can, maybe be explained. Plus, spoiler alert, bell never took part in any of the events Adler has them recall. Bell is a partner of Perseus. They are put in situations as a vehicle to remember details about where Perseus is. That or laziness. Although from what I've read up on the pps 42, the dp28 machine gun, the chicom type 50 submachine gun, which is essentially the pps42 as well as other weapons were all used in the war. From my research "MG 42, Captured by the Soviets during ww2 and provided to the VPA and the NLF as military aid" again I like the video so this isn't supposed to be an "er well actually"

    • @TheFrosty_1
      @TheFrosty_1  2 года назад +31

      Ya the mind control stuff may be able to explain it but I just took it at face value as most would. And you are right about the Soviets supplying WW2 weaponry to the Vietcong however from my research they were pretty rare and I was not able to find any evidence of the MG-42 being used in Vietnam. The closest thing I could find were a few scarce MG-34s.

    • @Basarius
      @Basarius 2 года назад +10

      @@TheFrosty_1 aye the mg34s came up a few times through my reading and looking at old photos. Funny thing is there's a few pictures of Americans holding MP40s which is just weird. Aye I'd have taken the mind control thing at face value as well but the black ops games have never been all that forthcoming on every detail which is probably why I like them so much. Anyway good day sir 😀

    • @TheFrosty_1
      @TheFrosty_1  2 года назад +10

      @@Basarius Regardless I am happy that your shared your thoughts and those interesting facts, thank you! :>

    • @Basarius
      @Basarius 2 года назад +5

      @@TheFrosty_1 oh I could talk for hours about this stuff but my hands would fall off haha

    • @darkhope97
      @darkhope97 2 года назад +6

      @@TheFrosty_1 was thinking the same thing of op about the german guns given by the soviets but also there could have been used by the french colonial forces or have them at a depo since france could have gotten some after ww2 and it would make more sence to use them in the colonies rather than have them on France

  • @TheGoober404
    @TheGoober404 2 года назад +27

    i love how like a 3rd of these inaccuracys would've made some sense if the game took place maybe 2-3 years later

  • @somewhatunbiasedtalks
    @somewhatunbiasedtalks 4 месяца назад +4

    Wow! The historical fiction game has historical inaccuracies 😳

  • @bingolos9063
    @bingolos9063 2 года назад +38

    8:07 There were no mention of the vietcongs using MG42s. However among the many WW2 weapons used by the Vietcongs (MP40, PPSH, STG44 etc) the MG34 was one of them. During the Indochina War, the French Foreign Legion had brought a number of ex-Wehrmacht MG-34s into Vietnam, and some of the communist examples could have been leftovers from that conflict.

  • @feasogachsionnach1872
    @feasogachsionnach1872 2 года назад +39

    You done a great job with this analysis, even with the inaccuracies and such, I enjoyed Cold War, not the greatest but not the worst (unlike what came out the year after...)

  • @tedmith5072
    @tedmith5072 Год назад +9

    11:55 It is a fact that when you play as bell (a Soviet) it's gonna transfer it english to read. Your reading the documents as bell but seeing it as you. Also if you notice bell or any Russian in. The cutscenes are the only one reading from those terminals

  • @Atesz222
    @Atesz222 Год назад +56

    19:29 That is not a Lada, it's a GAZ-24 Volga. It's well known for being used by the KGB

  • @SCPKing1835
    @SCPKing1835 2 года назад +69

    5:21 In the first game it is confirmed that Dragovich and Kravchenko did in fact try to brainwash Mason into killing JFK, but ultimately failed as Reznov sabotaged the process.
    11:12 The presence of some of these Western weapons at the site is because it's a training course modeled after a stereotypical American city, made for Spetsnaz who were supposed to operate in America.

    • @The_Punisher
      @The_Punisher Год назад +11

      He still killed JFK though Hudson says there were still years that they didn't know about

    • @redthewifeyhunter4034
      @redthewifeyhunter4034 Год назад +1

      If they failed, how come the ending makes it look like Mason assassinated him/helped assassinate?

    • @Deathmare235
      @Deathmare235 Год назад

      @@redthewifeyhunter4034 cause they succeeded well kinda since he did end up killing them later

    • @redthewifeyhunter4034
      @redthewifeyhunter4034 Год назад

      @@Deathmare235 and Oswald took the fall I'm guessing

    • @Deathmare235
      @Deathmare235 Год назад

      @@redthewifeyhunter4034 well he was the one that got captured Mason didn’t

  • @minhquanle4488
    @minhquanle4488 11 месяцев назад +2

    8:07 Vietnamese here. In fact, VPA (Vietnam People's Army a.k.a North Vietnam Army) has a variant number of German MG. Still, it's supposed to be MG 34 instead of MG 42 like in the game and we have several historic photos showing VPA soldiers using it. They come from many sources, but most of them were supplied by the Soviets after they captured them from Germany or China after they captured them from the Nationalists of China. Moreover, VPA soldiers use MG 34 mostly for anti-air purposes, not anti-personal.

  • @StrangeSeat
    @StrangeSeat 2 года назад +39

    Infinity Ward should hire this guy as a historical fact-checker to make sure mistakes like these do not happen

    • @foxtrotsierraproductions8626
      @foxtrotsierraproductions8626 Год назад +2

      Infinity Ward does not have anything to do with CoD Cold War.

    • @StrangeSeat
      @StrangeSeat Год назад +6

      @@foxtrotsierraproductions8626 my mistake, I'm an idiot

    • @youtubeuser9090
      @youtubeuser9090 Год назад +2

      @@StrangeSeatstill, if they make another historical cod whoever develops it should hire someone like this guy to fact check it

  • @CancerGaming56
    @CancerGaming56 2 года назад +40

    Here’s one you missed, the uniforms in Lubyanka are mostly Red Army uniforms when the KGB uniforms were either light blue or a darker looking version of the Red Army uniform. I’ve also seen black and grey versions but I’ve barely seen them.

    • @user-pf3kv4bv5s
      @user-pf3kv4bv5s Год назад +5

      The name "Red Army" was abolished in 1946. From 1946 it was officially called the Soviet Army.

    • @ゆみす魔王
      @ゆみす魔王 4 месяца назад

      ​@@user-pf3kv4bv5sThat didn't stop Old Guard from calling it the Red Army.

  • @cal-efc8062
    @cal-efc8062 Год назад +11

    21:45 at least Ireland didn’t get nuked

    • @AnderJaxi
      @AnderJaxi 11 месяцев назад +5

      So is Switzerland

  • @henryl2614
    @henryl2614 2 года назад +96

    To be honest, Black Ops Cold War seems to me like a vessel of fun, less of history. Like the movie master and commander, it takes historically based ideas and implements them In a fun way. I know as a consumer that sitting in a spy plane taking photos or a street would get boring real fast. Great review as always!

    • @SoyAntonioGaming
      @SoyAntonioGaming 2 года назад +2

      the video maker is jealous of CoD's success so he has to make up lies to slander it. he hates it so much becauise it makes much more money than his noob channel

    • @th3thatguy631
      @th3thatguy631 2 года назад +29

      @@SoyAntonioGaming i... don't think so
      ...

    • @henryl2614
      @henryl2614 2 года назад +15

      @@SoyAntonioGaming mate. I wholly agree with this guy's review, I was simply explaining why the story, dates and logical abilities would make sense. he puts up many fair arguments, like the gun anochrisms, and how realistic getting hit with an RPG close range would be.
      He's not slandering it, he's making a completely fair point. Would a game be fun to you if you sit in a spy plane for 2 hours? maybe move to a coffee shop and literally do nothing but take pictures of passerby? That's not fun, that's boring. This game is a great game, and it is made by an even greater RUclipsr.

    • @warkopvalhalla708
      @warkopvalhalla708 2 года назад +3

      MGS3 did a better job than this CoD

    • @SoyAntonioGaming
      @SoyAntonioGaming 2 года назад

      @@warkopvalhalla708 lier!!!

  • @0uttaS1TE
    @0uttaS1TE 2 года назад +72

    I wonder if the historical inaccuracies are due to the development cycle of this game, not only having to jury rig the plot to fit into the Black Ops timeline between BO1 and BO2, but also having to add in weapons and attachments in order for them to work in Warzone. I like the campaign, but that's mostly because of its more open ended design compared to MW2019.

    • @emberfist8347
      @emberfist8347 2 года назад +1

      I actually prefer the campaign of Modern Warfare 2019 because you get to defeat the villain at the end and the game feels like it tells a complete story. The ending to Cold War is rushed by contrast and as if they were going to resolve in Warzone due to running out of time. The inaccuracies is mostly due to the game trying treating everything that is in the history books as having been covered up.

  • @Harleyquinn_95
    @Harleyquinn_95 Год назад +14

    Actually, The Stroke by Billie Squire was released as a single, which is common to release way earlier than the album it came from so its entirely possible to have heard it on the radio in January 1981

  • @deadboy4016
    @deadboy4016 2 года назад +23

    Although I agree with some of the vehicles depicted inaccurately, the reasoning as to why there had been some alterations is probably due to the fact that AM General sued Activision over the depiction/usage of Humvees in their games. Though it was thrown out, I think they started doing these little alterations just so they won't have to deal with another similar sort of lawsuit. Great video man 👍

    • @meyers0781
      @meyers0781 2 года назад +1

      Funnily enough back in CODBO like 10+ years ago they put the new Jeep in the SOG mission and a multiplayer map
      The new 2010 Jeep
      In the Vietnam War
      Yes

    • @EnSayne987
      @EnSayne987 2 года назад +1

      Fair point but in my mind it doesn't excuse the DShK on some weird open top turret on a BTR which to my mind didn't exist, or if it did exist then it's some rare variant. It should be a 14.5mm KPV in a fully enclosed turret. He didn't even mention that one

  • @rosaria8384
    @rosaria8384 Год назад +35

    The grenade launcher in the final mission in Solovetsky seem to be also based on the MM1 Grenade Launcher - which is also seen in BO2

  • @JOHNSAIRBORNE-m1t
    @JOHNSAIRBORNE-m1t 4 месяца назад +1

    Naming your operator "War Crimes" Is the best thing I've seen all day 😂

  • @lanehoran1456
    @lanehoran1456 2 года назад +15

    I'm glad your back man😄
    Your video cover COD vanguard was one of my favorite videos.
    These COD games man, you can't catch a break 😒

    • @TheFrosty_1
      @TheFrosty_1  2 года назад +4

      Thank you! As long as Activision keeps making History related Campaigns then I'll have a job to do

  • @Irrationaaaaal
    @Irrationaaaaal Год назад +7

    I do love how they have you customize your character, and the variety of options, anachronistic as it may be

  • @notinuse3872
    @notinuse3872 4 месяца назад +3

    8:55 yeah there is. The German U-Bahn being split after ww2 meant that there where lines ran for west Germans that passed through ghost stations in east Germany and under the Berlin Wall. The game is accurate in terms of that. The station you use to get into east Berlin is very much a ghost station with no train stopping there. The East German Government and the wider Warsaw pact saw the U-Bahn and Berlin as a whole as one of the greatest security risks there was as you could easily compared to other methods get from West Berlin to east Berlin and then the wider Warsaw pact through these ghost stations

  • @j.l.stanford1754
    @j.l.stanford1754 2 года назад +63

    As for the MG42, I'm petty sure I read that the USSR sent captured German weaponry to the VC as foreign aid. I even remember seeing a picture of VC fighters carrying one in a history textbook

    • @captainnutt2995
      @captainnutt2995 2 года назад +7

      I think is MG34 that North Vietnam use, not MG42

    • @bingolos9063
      @bingolos9063 2 года назад +6

      There were no mention of MG42s being used during the vietnam war, so its must be a 34

    • @atomicmillenial9728
      @atomicmillenial9728 2 года назад +5

      @@bingolos9063 There's photos of captured MG42s out there.

    • @obscureoccultist9158
      @obscureoccultist9158 2 года назад +2

      @bingolos9063 it's actually correct. The Soviets handed captured German weapons to the NVA during the early part of the war. It would be phased out as the Soviets started providing heavier equipment like Dushkas

    • @jesterbeats2898
      @jesterbeats2898 2 года назад +1

      @@obscureoccultist9158 it's not the soviets it was the Chinese bc they were heavily involved in helping Vietnam

  • @ElocTheComrade
    @ElocTheComrade 2 года назад +15

    Here's a nitpicky one for you. The DUGA Array near Pripyat was pointed permanently directly north over the Arctic Circle (which makes sense as the first line of defense in detecting American ICBMs) rather than pointing directly west as shown in the cutscene to "activate the greenlight nukes in Europe"

  • @ObiJohnKenobi67
    @ObiJohnKenobi67 Год назад +9

    23:58 It is abandoned because Bell called ahead to set up an ambush.

  • @azolaun
    @azolaun 2 года назад +12

    19:17 that's like escaping the pentagon in a Nissan sedan. Ain't no way they leaving alive or it not leading to an act of war

  • @TacBans
    @TacBans 2 года назад +18

    One minor note: in the final mission, the island is shown being bombed by, from what I can tell, F-4 Phantoms. However, assuming the aircraft were also launched from carriers, then it would've been more accurate for it to be an A-6E, A-7E, or F-14A, as by the 1980s, the Navy had begun replacing the F-4 with other aircraft.

  • @BenCDBrown
    @BenCDBrown Год назад +19

    Another issue with the takedown, Makarovs have a holster you push down on rather then pull up to draw.

  • @ZeusStormbringer
    @ZeusStormbringer 2 года назад +72

    Can you do a historical analysis of World at War next? I'd love to see what you would find in that game.

    • @TheFrosty_1
      @TheFrosty_1  2 года назад +35

      I think I'll start work on that soon ya, thank you! :>

    • @Keygentlemen
      @Keygentlemen 2 года назад +5

      @@TheFrosty_1 Looking forward to it!

    • @thanakritpenbumrungvong9597
      @thanakritpenbumrungvong9597 2 года назад +3

      @@TheFrosty_1 A modder name FeReise in Moddb also made some mod and blogs about historical accuracies in WaW as well. You might wanna check it out.

  • @trhphgth
    @trhphgth Месяц назад +2

    8:15 there are some footages of VPA soldiers using MG34 as company weapon and anti-aircraft gun, but yea they just too lazy to clean the rust of the MW2019 MG34 to put into BOCW and just created an MG42 and slapped in for no reason (maybe sledgehammer gave treyarch their MG42 to test for Vanguard? who knows)

  • @fairlady5556
    @fairlady5556 2 года назад +31

    Even with all inaccuracies, this still continues to be one of my favorite campaigns.

    • @gew43
      @gew43 Год назад +2

      same (:

  • @TheLakabanzaichrg
    @TheLakabanzaichrg 2 года назад +11

    About the RC: it would consume a monstrous amount of D cells and would lose range after a couple of meters, 90's kids would know the struggle. And that'd without even taking into account the weight of the cammera and C4 block hindering it even further

  • @snowblind9551
    @snowblind9551 Год назад +12

    15:57 Of course Polish people would say Polish food is good.

  • @_Devil
    @_Devil 2 года назад +43

    Remember when Call Of Duty used to pride themselves on their historical accuracies? Pepperidge Farms remembers.

    • @Endru85x
      @Endru85x 2 года назад +19

      I remember first Black Ops being marketed as serious mature game and had a lot of anachronistic weapons and over the top action. And the old ones were not perfect either, but still less crazy than BO games.

    • @jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778
      @jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778 2 года назад +6

      Now they just want to change history to please there ESG score. They don't care anymore.

    • @CancerGaming56
      @CancerGaming56 2 года назад +24

      COD was never historically accurate, and its foolish to pretend it ever was.

    • @vapordreams983
      @vapordreams983 Год назад +10

      BO1 had a grenade launcher during the Bay of Pigs invasion and people wanna start complaining about historical inaccuracies just right now?!? Lol

    • @CancerGaming56
      @CancerGaming56 Год назад

      @@vapordreams983 Fr, in the case of Black Ops 1, if you do a word-search for “anachronistic” on the IMFDB, it appears 62 times, they really put any gun between 1960-1999 and called it a day, it’s only barely better number-wise than BOCW, but at least BOCW was mostly off by a few years in most cases, BO1 had red dots and the CZ 75 automatic, AWM, the SR9, weapons that were adopted or created in the 1990s.

  • @nexus_r
    @nexus_r Год назад +28

    I will add that later on, as they added DLC's they continued the campaigns story, theres a cutscene where they confirm Perseus is LONG DEAD and the truth is that Perseus is the ideal/movement/group, so that part actually isn't so inaccurate with that context.

    • @ItsJustDoctor
      @ItsJustDoctor Год назад +14

      That’s confirmed in the base game in the Soviet ending

  • @Lawlaliet
    @Lawlaliet 5 месяцев назад +3

    The documents in the meeting room with Gorbachev mention the Russian Federation, also the uniforms the generals are wearing are from when the USSR had collapsed.

    • @jeffkardosjr.3825
      @jeffkardosjr.3825 3 месяца назад

      Russian Federation at the time was the colloquial short term for the Russian Federative Soviet Socialist Republic.

    • @Lawlaliet
      @Lawlaliet 3 месяца назад

      @@jeffkardosjr.3825 The documents in the game specifically mention Russian Federation in 1950s, they also mention the Red Army in 1914

  • @JimHalpertFromTheOffice
    @JimHalpertFromTheOffice 2 года назад +12

    17:21 Sometimes, there's a group of 3 Soviet soldiers in the front lobby (where the receptionist is and the guy cleaning the windows) that will talk about the Yamantau attack.

  • @bitspokes496
    @bitspokes496 2 года назад +19

    8:15 tbh is was actually not as uncommon as you might think, various North Vietnamese militias got their hands on German WW2 weaponry throughout the Vietnam war.

  • @Bravo-16Gaming
    @Bravo-16Gaming 3 месяца назад +2

    14:58 - those are civilian GP-5 gas masks being used in a military base, correct gas masks would be the ShM-41/ШМ-41 (or PMK/ПМК if it was later on, idk what year it was in that short video clip)

  • @charliedoeswhatever1227
    @charliedoeswhatever1227 2 года назад +6

    Frost I’m from Northern Ireland I love your cod stuff it’s just fantastic keep it up my man (:

  • @m551sheridan8
    @m551sheridan8 2 года назад +11

    The Soviets supplied WW2 era german weapons to the Viet Minh, Viet Cong, and Vietnam as a whole. So the mg42 being used is by no means an inaccuracy, but by 1968 it would be pretty rare to see since most of those weapons were phased out by Soviet ones.

  • @walkingshadow6029
    @walkingshadow6029 3 месяца назад +3

    It's totally reasonable for the vc to use the mg42 and some have been found. One that was missed is the use of the m12 holster in vietnam which wouldn't be used until the 80s

    • @Lady_Amelia-Eloise
      @Lady_Amelia-Eloise 3 месяца назад +1

      That and the VC also had MP-40s

    • @walkingshadow6029
      @walkingshadow6029 3 месяца назад

      @Lady_Amelia-Eloise very true, they used everything they could and much of that was Russia giving them captured german equipment

  • @slooniee
    @slooniee 2 года назад +14

    in the first mission on the AKS-74u we see a C79 Elcan optical sight.. Canadian made but not introduced until 1989

    • @TheFrosty_1
      @TheFrosty_1  2 года назад +6

      Indeed, there were so many problems with the attachments that I kinda just had to through them all into one inaccuracie

  • @tacticalpossum7090
    @tacticalpossum7090 2 года назад +18

    Some of these things, like the AKM's being in service, the existence of a bunker beneath the Lubyanka/Urals, or details about CIA ops are certainly believable and I suppose we couldnt rule them out. We also know that MG34's and 42's were used in Vietnam.

    • @Horgler
      @Horgler 2 года назад +7

      Exactly. It's really not outlandish to still see AKMs in 1981, especially with non-frontline troops who aren't as big of a priority to receive AK-74s. For comparison, the US still had M16A2s being used at least up until the late 2000s.

    • @EnSayne987
      @EnSayne987 2 года назад +2

      @@Horgler I think I've heard before that the USAF uses rifles literally until they just break down so they even have some A1's floating around or at least they did until recently. It would be a bit weird for some of the apparently "elite" soviet troops to still have 7.62 rifles but not crazy either since as you said they would really be rear line troops

    • @jason1182000
      @jason1182000 2 года назад

      @@EnSayne987you’re correct about the USAF holding onto old weapons like original M16s (pre-A1). It’s interesting to note that when many of the weapons were starting wear/show their age they would be refurbished with modern parts and often retaining plenty of old parts and serial numbers. A good example of this was the GUU-5/P carbine, which were often built from 20 inch barrel rifles and paired their fixed-carry handle upper receivers with collapsible stocks and 14.5 inch barrels. I remember browsing a forum where an airman was sharing his personal example which had a serial number, IIRC, from the Vietnam War.

  • @brianrecinos3914
    @brianrecinos3914 Год назад +5

    16:24: The person in charge of overseeing this meeting would have been the head of the KGB, Yuri Andropov who served between 1967-1982.

    • @Tyomak-ov
      @Tyomak-ov Месяц назад

      And besides, gorbachyov literally was for a peaceful resolution to the cold war, so he would have never conducted secret ops trying to spark more conflict with the US. When he became leader he was determined on fixing the market and putting an end to cold war. Weird that west twists him to try to be evil when he genuinely wasn't

  • @josevictorionunez9312
    @josevictorionunez9312 2 года назад +11

    12:35 One thing you missed. The Enemy Vehicles you destroy here appear to be BTR-82A APCs which is anachronistic since the BTR-80 which is the vehicle the 82 is based on would not enter Soviet service until 1986 and the 82A variant would not be revealed until 2009 and only enter Russian service in 2013.

  • @samwouldyoukindly5244
    @samwouldyoukindly5244 Год назад +1

    This is genius for a video series!

  • @sg_auto_photography
    @sg_auto_photography 2 года назад +13

    About the russian solider with the 1911. It is possible that a russian soldier got one after the US sold 51,000 pistols to russia during WW1.
    Edit: Forgotten weapons did a video on it

    • @StazherEzhov
      @StazherEzhov 2 года назад +8

      Highly doubtful. Some M1911, available in the soviet warehouses of the mobilization reserve, quite possibly fell into the hands of the People's Militia in the fall of 1941, but after the end of the war, all foreign weapons, both previously taken from the warehouses and captured, went back to the warehouses or went abroad as military aid. So this particular soldier had nowhere to take the M1911 and was supposed to be armed with a PM.
      I think this is just a developer error.

  • @oliosmontes5951
    @oliosmontes5951 Год назад +28

    11:29 It is not entirely incorrect for a soviet to have a 1911 as they had a surplus of them after WWII however it is highly unlikely

    • @Th3ory04
      @Th3ory04 Год назад +1

      Is it? I mean, the USSR received a LOT in Allied aid. I suppose that pistols, of all things, would be something the most unaccounted for. Especially if they tried copying them early-on, before replacing the TT-33 with the Makarov. If anything, East Germany would've used them just to blend-in with West German elements.

    • @oliosmontes5951
      @oliosmontes5951 Год назад +9

      @@Th3ory04 In the 80s the 1911s were poorly maintained and most had been thrown away in favor of the makarov or TT-33 as those were still being produced. But I’m not a soviet soldier from the 80s so what do I know.

    • @faketaxidriver5651
      @faketaxidriver5651 Год назад +4

      In the 1980s, most Soviet troops had Makarov PMs as their sidearms. No way they would use M1911s even if it's available for them

  • @zoesabina
    @zoesabina 7 месяцев назад +3

    At 10:57 it’s not a historical inaccuracy, he’s clearly making a joke, also I feel like a lot of stuff in this video is clearly fictional and made up for the game, like operation green light