Whatever controller you go with fork out the extra money for warranty protection. I’ve tried every controller and had 4 elite controllers 2 series 1 2 series 2. They all use the same cheap modules for the thumb sticks and will inevitably start to drift. The mechanism for the bumpers is poorly designed aswell. Bumpers will stop registering, start double registering, or completely snap off within a year if you play games that use them extensively. Better safe than sorry with how expensive these controllers are just a fair warning.
@@vyte6531i had 2 series 2 controllers both bumpers are fucked i aint got stickdrift but I literally can’t click my bumpers anymore instinct pro is definitely built better you may get less customization but don’t matter if the controller lasts 6 months
The series 2 didn't impress me, the triggers and bumpers were very mushy compared to the Scuf and it got stick drift after around 150 hours of play. My Scuf is going strong with around 800 hours on it and the trigger stops are much better. I think either controller you go with is great as long as you have a warranty just Incase.
i have the scuf reflex without the mouse triggers but i have to say elite series 2 feels way nicer in hands and the pedal pressing is also much nicer than buttons like scuf, but yea the mouse click triggers must be a nice bonus
in my experience I've had the elite 2 for about 3 years with about 1600 hours in total and after that time it is atrociously destroyed the rubber grips have peeled a bit, both bumpers don't work, lots of stick drift, and now it presses buttons on its own making me unable to even play if you are wondering on what to get, get the scuf controller as the long term is better and also for more hardcore gamers it is much much better just for the fact of the triggers hope this helps.
Honestly the durability for the elite series 2is a hit or miss.I’ve had my controller for 7 months and I already had problems with my LB button and some drift so I sent it in for a replacement.It’s a fantastic controller but if you plan on buying you need to buy some sort of warranty on it.
Elite can map any button to any other button/paddle. Scuf instinct pro can only map face buttons and bumpers to the paddles but you can't map any other buttons location aside from the paddles.
Is the stick drift issue mainly a pro controller problem because my standard xb1 and both SX white and black controller have no drift and my xb1 controller is 8 years old with only wear down on the rubber.
Great review my friend. I have only had the Elite 2, and mine recently had button issues, so I had to return it. I was looking between the Scuf and Elite 2, but I think I'll stick with the Elite 2. Thank you once again.
I have 2 elite controllers and 2 elite series 2 controllers all of them have stick drift issues and it all magically starts after the warranty runs out 😂 idk how
More me personally I’m going Elite Series 2 every time. Never had stick drift on my Elite 1 or Elite 2. I guess I’m just lucky. I also love the longer paddles (pause)
On my elite series 2, things just gradually started to go. First the right bumper started double clicking most of the time. Then the left bumper. Then the right trigger spring started to loudly squeak. It’s a poor quality controller that they’re selling for a premium price.
Been running the Scuf Instinct Pro for about a year now had to send it out for a module repair for stick drift six months in wasnt cheap either almost as much to replaced the whole controller. I do however like it enought to replace it even with its faults. The mouse triggers are amazing and the bumpers are fun to use once you get use to them. I will buy another just wish they used better modules for the sticks. Forgot to mention I also own the elite and prefer the scuf for competitive gaming. The elite bumpers are in the way of my fingers too much.
I bought the elite 2 and the right bumper wasn’t working and then the controller kept disconnecting then I fixed the right bumper now my left bumper won’t work
I've been considering a Scuf Instinct Pro but after watching your video I think I'll just stick with my Elite 2. Hopefully there's a 3 in our future that addresses some of the issues people have with the 2's... especially the bumpers.
same dude multiple issues happened with my elite 2 finally traded in today at best buy got the warranty got my 2nd elite 2 then come home and guess fuckin what? stick drift right the fuck away go figure! goin back tomorrow and see what they can do
Honestly the only thing better about the elite 2 is customization AND THATS IT I've had 3 elite 2s and I've tried other controllers like victrix gambit and razer wolverine ultimate and they both feel 10x better than the series 2 especially in FPS games I've used my Elite series 2 yesterday to see how it held up to my other two and JESUS CHRIST the input delay got me killed so many times
The scuf is definitely a better controller performance and durability wise. Never had an issue with mine. The elite only wins in this review because it’s cheaper and has more features but durability was never talked about.
I’m still using my same Elite Series 2 controller since the initial release date with no issues. For example of how much I play, I’m prestige master on BO6 already.
This worries me there is so many reports and complaints on the Elite V2 for it's lack of build quality to me it feels unacceptable for a ''premium'' controller tho the Elite 2 has alot to offer package wise, Might get the SCUF have some gift cards laying around.
Just get a refurbished one, i did and its been 2 years since, bagged my elite series 2 for £60 with 2 year warranty and other than it being refurbished it came with all orginal packing with a detail list of what was wrong before it was refurbished and what was replaced turns out someone returned it to microsoft becuase of the usb c not working they replaced it with a oem part and its £80 less than new, honeslty id go with refurbished grade A if you not fussed if you need it to be brans new out of box
got mine “open box, condition excellent” 90$ it’s a steal ! two days later found some 350$ turtle beach headset open box for 150$ @ Best Buy ! felt like I had won the lottery
Can someone explain how switch the thumb stick clicking on the scuff instinct. There’s a way to make it where you don’t have to click it to sprint. It’s just pressure and I can’t figure out how.
The build quality of the xbox controllers as a whole are poor, the bumper buttons and tricker buttons break easily, well within a 6 month period. I have had both elite and elite S2 and had to send them back for exchanges as the bumper buttons had broken. The stick drift is a huge issues as well. I thought about getting a scuf but decided to go with a Razer Wolverine V2 Chroma, and tbh I will never go back to an elite again as the build quality of the razer is 100% better. But a very good video, keep it up
Yeah I have horrible stick drift in both thumsticks of the Elite 2 within a year. So I decided to try out the scuff instinct this time they also have much cheaper repair costs. Downside is Elite 2 can map literally any button to any other button. Scuf Instinct pro can only map face buttons and bumpers to the paddles only. So you can't make X button attack if the game has it set to RB on the scuf but you can on the Elite.
@@cosmicabyss7358 Im telling you, get the azer Wolverine V2 Chroma, you can map any buttons, you have 6 extra buttons instead of the normal 4 and its well built and smooth.
@@Deaconbrowngaminghow long did it take u to get comfortable with the back paddles ?? I’m thinking of getting one two as my core 2 rb trigger won’t register as long as i press hard on it.
I have the elite 2 and the back left paddle got loose a bit and wiggles now because i play Titanfall 2 that I always hold down the paddle so it wear out after a while.
i got my son a custom xbox series 2 controller for christmas and it lasted about 1 month before the left bumper quit working. I couldn't get ahold of anyone at xbox or microsoft to figure out how to warranty it. I have had 3 series 2 xbox controllers do the same thing but with different bumpers. Its always the bumpers for me. Otherwise they are great. If there were a better way to warranty them then i would Keep getting them.
Just ordered an Elite Series 2 from Microsoft. L3 button didn't register half the time. Went on Reddit and found a thread where people said that this is a thing. Why aren't more people mentioning this or talking about it in their videos?
Take care of you're elite series 2 and buy the extra warranty and you're golden. I get a brand new elite series 2 once a year for $60 bucks a year. And i don't even need to exchange it i just do to get a new one. Warranty lasts 2 years for $60 bucks at best buy. So if you wanted to you could just pay $60 every 2 years and have a brand new elite 2 literally every 2 years for basically $30 a year. You can't beat it.
I’ve had my Elite series 2 for 4yrs now and my only complaint is the MINOR stick drift. Other than that the controller works as I’d did when I bought it. I mostly play FPS. And yes I play extensively.
my elite series 2 is still going strong after about 3 or 4 years, sure, it looks musty and crusty but very only had to replace the thumb sticks recently and a bit of grip peeling off both sides. still fully functional though, 0 stick drift in about 800 hours of fifa 23 and 600 hours on fc24 + my other games i use a this controller for. worth the money for me, i don’t know if i’ve been lucky but for the damage it has compared to the time i’ve had it, it’s 100% worth it. Something that has been so good with this controller is the grip where your palms rest, the sweat on the cheap plastics of the normal controllers is just terrible, this is a lifesaver.
The Elite 2 is the best controller when its brand new, but the build quality is shit and it WILL have some sort of issue within a few months of moderate use.
I love the S2 Controller, but as LOTS of others have reported with it too, it creates button issues.. The 2 buttons I use the most, the B button and the RB button both doesnt register unless I click down hard now. And its no coincidence considering how many others have these issues aswell. Its really dissapointing. I wonder if the Scuf controller has the same issue.
Nice comparison except you said nothing about the scuf controller or the hardware differences…button feel, wear and tear…just the “elite series 2 has more options!” On repeat. I know that. I want to know if the button presses hold up or how heavy it is. What do the buttons click like how do they sound, how does it feel.
Great video. I'm about to take the plunge and am torn between the two controllers. Leaning towards the Instinct Pro right now, but durability is going to be the main issue for me. Can anyone who has had either/ both controllers for a period of time give me any insights into durability please? Rumours abound that the Elite Series 3 may be released towards the end of the year, so may hold off, unless there are huge discounts before then.
dont have instint pro but have had elite 2 for year and going strong no replacement of anything and no issues. PS i have kids who throw it not alot but its happened couple times. Looking been looking at vidss of the instince pro really want to know if the click triggers are worth the 200+ when you can get a white series 2 for 109 119 rn.
@@TheeSmiths9520 I was heavily leaning towards the Elite Series 2, but I placed my order for the Instinct Pro a couple of days ago. Please remind me to check back and I'll be more than happy to provide feedback once I've had it for a few days!
i've had 3 elite series 2s and same issue with all 3, stick drift and bumper issues. I've went for a scuf instinct this time as its probably by only option left
If you get the elite series 2, IMMEDIATELY map the 'stick click' to the rear paddles. If you spend more than a week clicking the sticks in with any regularity you will gain some truly wicked stick drift or, as in my case over four different series 1 and 1 series 2, sunken stick to the point it just flat out doesn't register stick movement. I have only just recently noticed my left bumper almost completely non responsive and after another hour of play my right bumper is starting to lose response. It feels great in the hand and, if you are SUPER careful with it, it shouldn't give you too much trouble. What I despise is that it's advertised as the elite controller, built to withstand professional gamer use but actually is more fragile and has more inherent problems than the plastic POS standard controller you get included with your console.
I have stick drift in both my sticks on the Elite 2 after only a year and I don't play super heavy. Durability was the key factor this time for me picking the Scuf over the Elite. But I didn't realize I can't map my buttons however I want on the scuf like I can on the Elite.
Ya it’s crazy today I was thinking about just buying the core bc I’ve gone thru 3 elite 2’s myself. Just hoping to save a little money but I’m sure this thing will end up drifting or bumpers stop working as well
I've been using Elite 2 and I love it. I'm still interested on checking out the scuff controller. But I'm checking out the one for PS5. good review. thanks
Everyone here has owned an elite controller this review gave me no information about how the scuf wears. Are they paddles more responsive and less likely to shit themself? Anyone know?
The paddles on the back of the instinct pro are fine. They are actually buttons instead of paddles. The model before had actual plastic paddles that broke all the time. I have owned 3 instinct pros and the right sided stick drift is a serious problem. As a CoD player that is ridiculous. That's why I am looking for a new controller.
Honestly, go with scuff instict. I've owned both, and personally, i like instict Pro for a few reasons 1:it doesnt get stick drift as quick. 2:paddles work better(my paddles broke really quick with my elite series 2).And 3 when my headset broke i could use the instict pro mic
I’ve never owned a scuf but the Xbox elite will most likely have issues the first week in I’ve been through 3 and my Xbox stock controllers have lasted 3 times longer than any elite I’ve had
Ive had both one being a custom scuf (instinct) and a elite 2 the custom one paddle went out after a accidental fall from maybe 3 ft. The elite 2 literally fell apart after a month, the lock triggers literally locked and would not shoot on fps and the rb lb decided to ejecto seato cuz felt good with bot the elite feeling more durable but not in reality. As far as customisable you can custmize the scuf the way you want with some cost (duh) but you cant with the elite at a lower cost, limited colors, not much difference from the scuf other than a little mor durable feeling but the scuf feels 100xs more comfortable in my own opinion. This is all opinion after owning both but after the constant deaths from the elite on ranked modes. Ill be ordering a scuf again. All comes down to the person both have pros and cons. Scuf did up the warranty to 1 year vs 6 months just like the elite look futher into the cons of both before buying not just how great the customizing is
@@RefrigeratedTP I enjoyed and liked elite very much but it fell apart with the gaming I did which im sure will be figured out eventually but if you game as much as me even with a full time job it just needs a few upgrades for the price for the serious gamers and also there can be bad batches no matter the company. Hope yours last longer than mine!
Mostly being the rb lb 1&2 both wore and was unstable depends on the games as well Not in anyway saying the elite is bad if that one very common issue if you look it up is fixed then it's great
With the elite series 2 it has more features but the features that the scuf does have they are much better then the elite series 2 for example the back paddles on the scuf is better and less click you need to do
I owned 2 elite series 2 controllers the first one came broken out the box because the trigger mechanism broke. The replacement lasted 5 months and then firstly the tension sticks broke on me after 3 months (feeling like the hardest setting on the loosest) this happened on both sticks. Then the LB bumper started to become unresponsive so I quickly returned to Amazon for a full refund. I have no bought a Scuf instinct pro but it hasn’t arrived yet. The elite series 2 is not a good quality controller it’s an over engineered nightmare of a controller. Do not buy it unless you get a warranty because it will probably break after 6 months and for a £150+ controller you’d expect it to last for a while longer than 6 months.
I have and have had both controllers. My elite series 2 has RB problems where it wont register unless you press it in a certain area of the button. My scuf I had almost 2 years and its just now starting to get stick drift. If there is a newer production model of the elite series 2 that has fixed these issues. Then maybe I would try the elite series core and just use my previous series 2 pieces. But as for now if you want overall quality, nothing beats the Scuf.
Xbox is hard to say is a “better controller” when they just fluffing the buyer with extra extras like sticks and trigger 3-ways… to a competitive gamer, we know, the Xbox controller is not it because it’s capped at 230MHZ and the scuf can be clocked to 1000mhz… which makes its response time way more viable… it’s like getting a car and the seller saying this may be a v6 but it’s got heated seats…. Compared to the v8 model
Bumpers have busted on 3 of my pro controllers and you can't fix that module in the controller like you could with the series 1. Idk I play PC and PlayStation is leagues ahead on the controller side of things if you ask me. I beat mine to hell and have absolutely zero issues with them. Xbox needs to step up their game
There absolutely no difference then the core. I combined the parts rom a series 2 to a series 2 core. Everything the exact same. Mother board and buttons.
I've had both. I like the feel of the scuf, but it's not very reliable. It only comes with a 6mo warranty and both of my controllers developed stick drift bad. I moved to the elite 2 and it's been great for 2 years. Scuf has awful customer support. Not that Microsoft wins any records there either.
The elite series 2 controller case is god awful, its like they didnt even bother to QC it before packaging and sending them off. The case is nowhere near deep enough for holding the controller plus charging dock and cords.
So I use both regularly and I noticed the elite series 2 is prone to getting stick drift in the right stick vs the scuf pro controller and when you use the right stick to crouch/prone like I do it just accelerates the initial stick drift
Ok so every single elite 2 I owned were 2nd hand I never experience drift or anything ridiculous I had purchased a elite 2 core white edition brand new I have 0 issues been using it since Christmas Verizon just shipped me out a brand new elite series 2 black for free promotion and I’m excited for it I have literally no problems with used elites or new I want a scuff but I don’t wanna dish out 220 + cus I’ll customize it pc gamer ** btw and I could never play with a stock remote ever since I switched to elite remotes always buy game stops warranty they will swap out the remote for any reason I spilled water on one of mine and they swapped out as long as it’s in stock & keep your box so you don’t deal with the issue
The best premium Xbox controller would probably be a PS5 controller like the reflex pro, using an adapter for compatibility on xbox. Too much deadzone in the Xbox controllers although I still like using them. I prefer the shape and grip of the PS5 controller as well. The King Kong Pro 2 is potentially even better , with an adapter, since it basically has no deadzone. My main issue is that it doesnt have stick tension adjustments. A little too easy to move for my tastes. No back paddles either.
@@The91jesus Right. That could be a problem for FPS players that really utilise that feature. In my case I play through everything from ancient to very new, but many different genres.
This video sounds more of a “why the elite series 2 is better than a scuff” video 😂 im hearing high quality this and that but everyone in the comments say it breaks easily 😂
Elite 2 is customizable garbage. I've had 3- all have had problems. The first- the shoulder buttons stopped working. Second one, thumb stick stopped registering the click press. I remapped to a removable trigger- which comes out too easy and gets lost(good thing I have 3 full sets, right?). The last one- the rubber grips bubbled, I had to peel them off. Now, the d-pad got stuck- it makes everything go up on the screen. All the nubs(that set the range of the trigger) on all 3 controllers came off long ago. Its just one thing after another. As for the warranty, I had to set an appt at a best Buy 100 miles away-just so they can look at it! I haven't had this many issues since the xbox red ring of death! Never again. None lasted over a year. Anything. ANYTHING has to be more durable than this junk!😑
People that get stick drift clearly need to breathe when they play with their controllers, you dont need to grip the controller for dear life and abuse it, slow is smooth, smooth is fast
You do realize stick drift is INEVITABLE for potentiometer thumb stick modules. You can get drift out of the box sometimes. Don’t speak on something you don’t know anything about.
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Whatever controller you go with fork out the extra money for warranty protection. I’ve tried every controller and had 4 elite controllers 2 series 1 2 series 2. They all use the same cheap modules for the thumb sticks and will inevitably start to drift. The mechanism for the bumpers is poorly designed aswell. Bumpers will stop registering, start double registering, or completely snap off within a year if you play games that use them extensively. Better safe than sorry with how expensive these controllers are just a fair warning.
that’s really good to know
what xbox games do you play that you’d want to map any button anywhere though?
This is absolutely cap I have had no stick drift on series 1 and 2 with the same pair for a year each
@@vyte6531definitely not crap. I went through 4 in a day cuz they had shit buttons and stick drift
I got two series 2 controller in the matter of 2 weeks and both controllers bumpers were not registering so imma agree
@@vyte6531i had 2 series 2 controllers both bumpers are fucked i aint got stickdrift but I literally can’t click my bumpers anymore instinct pro is definitely built better you may get less customization but don’t matter if the controller lasts 6 months
The series 2 didn't impress me, the triggers and bumpers were very mushy compared to the Scuf and it got stick drift after around 150 hours of play. My Scuf is going strong with around 800 hours on it and the trigger stops are much better. I think either controller you go with is great as long as you have a warranty just Incase.
Ima have to disagree with this one family but aye everyone likes what they like.
Does the warranty cover stick drift?
I'm "triggered" by this comment
i have the scuf reflex without the mouse triggers but i have to say elite series 2 feels way nicer in hands and the pedal pressing is also much nicer than buttons like scuf, but yea the mouse click triggers must be a nice bonus
I had the same issue with the series 2, Even the paddles. They became less & less responsive within 2 months.
The video does not match with the description, He says elite is better but then in the description he says the scuf is better???
in my experience I've had the elite 2 for about 3 years with about 1600 hours in total and after that time it is atrociously destroyed the rubber grips have peeled a bit, both bumpers don't work, lots of stick drift, and now it presses buttons on its own making me unable to even play if you are wondering on what to get, get the scuf controller as the long term is better and also for more hardcore gamers it is much much better just for the fact of the triggers hope this helps.
I just wanna hear about durability and compatibility of the paddles.
Honestly the durability for the elite series 2is a hit or miss.I’ve had my controller for 7 months and I already had problems with my LB button and some drift so I sent it in for a replacement.It’s a fantastic controller but if you plan on buying you need to buy some sort of warranty on it.
Elite can map any button to any other button/paddle.
Scuf instinct pro can only map face buttons and bumpers to the paddles but you can't map any other buttons location aside from the paddles.
No matter what... accidents happen on both controllers.
Is the stick drift issue mainly a pro controller problem because my standard xb1 and both SX white and black controller have no drift and my xb1 controller is 8 years old with only wear down on the rubber.
I’m four decades old and have never experienced “stick drift”
Luckiest Man Alive:
@@DefinitelyNotMyRealName "4 decades young"
They just don’t know how to take care of their stuff
Do the thumb sticks wear out and get “loose” as fast as standard controllers?
Great review my friend. I have only had the Elite 2, and mine recently had button issues, so I had to return it. I was looking between the Scuf and Elite 2, but I think I'll stick with the Elite 2. Thank you once again.
I have 2 elite controllers and 2 elite series 2 controllers all of them have stick drift issues and it all magically starts after the warranty runs out 😂 idk how
More me personally I’m going Elite Series 2 every time. Never had stick drift on my Elite 1 or Elite 2. I guess I’m just lucky. I also love the longer paddles (pause)
No Diddy
@@injusticeberserker2800 lol
On my elite series 2, things just gradually started to go. First the right bumper started double clicking most of the time. Then the left bumper. Then the right trigger spring started to loudly squeak. It’s a poor quality controller that they’re selling for a premium price.
My elite series 2 don’t last I’ve been through 6 in 1.5 years stick drift and the bumpers always go to hell
Yup same issue here
Same
Yup exactly the bumpers always start to either double click or become unresponsive for me. It’s ridiculous.
Been running the Scuf Instinct Pro for about a year now had to send it out for a module repair for stick drift six months in wasnt cheap either almost as much to replaced the whole controller. I do however like it enought to replace it even with its faults. The mouse triggers are amazing and the bumpers are fun to use once you get use to them. I will buy another just wish they used better modules for the sticks. Forgot to mention I also own the elite and prefer the scuf for competitive gaming. The elite bumpers are in the way of my fingers too much.
Do you own the elite 1 or elite 2?
@@adrianyeager6463The Elite 2 is what I own. I have buddies who have run the Elite 1 as well and had similar issues with trigger failure and drift.
Have they fixed the issues with PC bluetooth with the Elite Series 2?
To me the best part of the series 2 is being able to charge it in the built in charging case.
You didn’t mention the polling rates for them. 🤦🏻♂️
I bought the elite 2 and the right bumper wasn’t working and then the controller kept disconnecting then I fixed the right bumper now my left bumper won’t work
I've been considering a Scuf Instinct Pro but after watching your video I think I'll just stick with my Elite 2. Hopefully there's a 3 in our future that addresses some of the issues people have with the 2's... especially the bumpers.
same dude multiple issues happened with my elite 2 finally traded in today at best buy got the warranty got my 2nd elite 2 then come home and guess fuckin what? stick drift right the fuck away go figure! goin back tomorrow and see what they can do
Honestly the only thing better about the elite 2 is customization AND THATS IT I've had 3 elite 2s and I've tried other controllers like victrix gambit and razer wolverine ultimate and they both feel 10x better than the series 2 especially in FPS games I've used my Elite series 2 yesterday to see how it held up to my other two and JESUS CHRIST the input delay got me killed so many times
The scuf is definitely a better controller performance and durability wise. Never had an issue with mine. The elite only wins in this review because it’s cheaper and has more features but durability was never talked about.
I’m still using my same Elite Series 2 controller since the initial release date with no issues. For example of how much I play, I’m prestige master on BO6 already.
Loser
This worries me there is so many reports and complaints on the Elite V2 for it's lack of build quality to me it feels unacceptable for a ''premium'' controller
tho the Elite 2 has alot to offer package wise,
Might get the SCUF have some gift cards laying around.
Just get a refurbished one, i did and its been 2 years since, bagged my elite series 2 for £60 with 2 year warranty and other than it being refurbished it came with all orginal packing with a detail list of what was wrong before it was refurbished and what was replaced turns out someone returned it to microsoft becuase of the usb c not working they replaced it with a oem part and its £80 less than new, honeslty id go with refurbished grade A if you not fussed if you need it to be brans new out of box
got mine “open box, condition excellent” 90$ it’s a steal ! two days later found some 350$ turtle beach headset open box for 150$ @ Best Buy ! felt like I had won the lottery
How is the paddles on the scuf? Are they hard to use??
They suck
Can someone explain how switch the thumb stick clicking on the scuff instinct. There’s a way to make it where you don’t have to click it to sprint. It’s just pressure and I can’t figure out how.
Great video! And even better for the straight up answer at the start!
Which controller do you prefer, Xbox Elite Series 2 or Scuf Instinct Pro?
The scuf customizable trigger is amazing
@@sakmiov688 good to know
I have the scuff and my roommate has the elite scuff is a lot better faster getting trigger off to fps games
I’m trying the scuf now, hopefully it doesn’t suck. The elite series 2 I had for 2 year has been a terrible experience.
I still have my Scuf Prestige... I don't get why they took it down. Sad that Scuf fell off.
The build quality of the xbox controllers as a whole are poor, the bumper buttons and tricker buttons break easily, well within a 6 month period. I have had both elite and elite S2 and had to send them back for exchanges as the bumper buttons had broken. The stick drift is a huge issues as well.
I thought about getting a scuf but decided to go with a Razer Wolverine V2 Chroma, and tbh I will never go back to an elite again as the build quality of the razer is 100% better.
But a very good video, keep it up
I'll have a look into the Razer Wolverine V2
I would get one of the Razer controllers but the paddle placement is just weird imo.
Yeah I have horrible stick drift in both thumsticks of the Elite 2 within a year.
So I decided to try out the scuff instinct this time they also have much cheaper repair costs.
Downside is Elite 2 can map literally any button to any other button.
Scuf Instinct pro can only map face buttons and bumpers to the paddles only.
So you can't make X button attack if the game has it set to RB on the scuf but you can on the Elite.
@@cosmicabyss7358 Im telling you, get the azer Wolverine V2 Chroma, you can map any buttons, you have 6 extra buttons instead of the normal 4 and its well built and smooth.
@@Deaconbrowngaminghow long did it take u to get comfortable with the back paddles ?? I’m thinking of getting one two as my core 2 rb trigger won’t register as long as i press hard on it.
Vibey coverage
Good work
It’s hard to tell which is Better
Very contextual
I have the elite 2 and the back left paddle got loose a bit and wiggles now because i play Titanfall 2 that I always hold down the paddle so it wear out after a while.
I have two elite series 2 controllers since 2019 and they're going strong so far I just update them on Xbox 👍🏿
Do you get stick drift
@@itfollowsme6565yes
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i got my son a custom xbox series 2 controller for christmas and it lasted about 1 month before the left bumper quit working. I couldn't get ahold of anyone at xbox or microsoft to figure out how to warranty it. I have had 3 series 2 xbox controllers do the same thing but with different bumpers. Its always the bumpers for me. Otherwise they are great. If there were a better way to warranty them then i would Keep getting them.
Just ordered an Elite Series 2 from Microsoft. L3 button didn't register half the time. Went on Reddit and found a thread where people said that this is a thing. Why aren't more people mentioning this or talking about it in their videos?
Hey, great review. Question: Can you map the Scuf Instinct Pro paddles to a diagonal directional imput, say up/forward at the same time?
good question, I will look into it
I don't think you can do that.
Take care of you're elite series 2 and buy the extra warranty and you're golden. I get a brand new elite series 2 once a year for $60 bucks a year. And i don't even need to exchange it i just do to get a new one. Warranty lasts 2 years for $60 bucks at best buy. So if you wanted to you could just pay $60 every 2 years and have a brand new elite 2 literally every 2 years for basically $30 a year. You can't beat it.
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@@GarrettMusic1 this is not smart. Subscriptions for a controller is not necessary. Something is fundamentally wrong here. Buy ONE and done. Scuf.
I’ve had my Elite series 2 for 4yrs now and my only complaint is the MINOR stick drift. Other than that the controller works as I’d did when I bought it. I mostly play FPS. And yes I play extensively.
How’s it holding up my guy
the paddles are so uncomfortable for me on the elite controllers. anyone can say if they are more convenient on the scuf?
I agree they are not comfortable at all and I can really only use one on each side because they are too close together.
The scuff paddles do feel more comfy/more out of the way feel. And really only need one finger use on each side.
my elite series 2 is still going strong after about 3 or 4 years, sure, it looks musty and crusty but very only had to replace the thumb sticks recently and a bit of grip peeling off both sides. still fully functional though, 0 stick drift in about 800 hours of fifa 23 and 600 hours on fc24 + my other games i use a this controller for. worth the money for me, i don’t know if i’ve been lucky but for the damage it has compared to the time i’ve had it, it’s 100% worth it. Something that has been so good with this controller is the grip where your palms rest, the sweat on the cheap plastics of the normal controllers is just terrible, this is a lifesaver.
Anyone know which of these 2 controllers more closely resembles the default Xbox series x stick tension and feel?
Scuf because it is the series x controller just with the scuf add ons
The Elite 2 is the best controller when its brand new, but the build quality is shit and it WILL have some sort of issue within a few months of moderate use.
I love the S2 Controller, but as LOTS of others have reported with it too, it creates button issues.. The 2 buttons I use the most, the B button and the RB button both doesnt register unless I click down hard now. And its no coincidence considering how many others have these issues aswell. Its really dissapointing. I wonder if the Scuf controller has the same issue.
Nice comparison except you said nothing about the scuf controller or the hardware differences…button feel, wear and tear…just the “elite series 2 has more options!” On repeat. I know that. I want to know if the button presses hold up or how heavy it is. What do the buttons click like how do they sound, how does it feel.
Great video. I'm about to take the plunge and am torn between the two controllers. Leaning towards the Instinct Pro right now, but durability is going to be the main issue for me. Can anyone who has had either/ both controllers for a period of time give me any insights into durability please?
Rumours abound that the Elite Series 3 may be released towards the end of the year, so may hold off, unless there are huge discounts before then.
dont have instint pro but have had elite 2 for year and going strong no replacement of anything and no issues. PS i have kids who throw it not alot but its happened couple times. Looking been looking at vidss of the instince pro really want to know if the click triggers are worth the 200+ when you can get a white series 2 for 109 119 rn.
@@TheeSmiths9520 I was heavily leaning towards the Elite Series 2, but I placed my order for the Instinct Pro a couple of days ago. Please remind me to check back and I'll be more than happy to provide feedback once I've had it for a few days!
i've had 3 elite series 2s and same issue with all 3, stick drift and bumper issues. I've went for a scuf instinct this time as its probably by only option left
If you get the elite series 2, IMMEDIATELY map the 'stick click' to the rear paddles. If you spend more than a week clicking the sticks in with any regularity you will gain some truly wicked stick drift or, as in my case over four different series 1 and 1 series 2, sunken stick to the point it just flat out doesn't register stick movement. I have only just recently noticed my left bumper almost completely non responsive and after another hour of play my right bumper is starting to lose response.
It feels great in the hand and, if you are SUPER careful with it, it shouldn't give you too much trouble. What I despise is that it's advertised as the elite controller, built to withstand professional gamer use but actually is more fragile and has more inherent problems than the plastic POS standard controller you get included with your console.
I have the scuff instinct pro trigger is amazing
2:12 was anyone else just looking at the tv in the back lol
Elite series 2 don’t last I had 7 replacements
I have stick drift in both my sticks on the Elite 2 after only a year and I don't play super heavy.
Durability was the key factor this time for me picking the Scuf over the Elite.
But I didn't realize I can't map my buttons however I want on the scuf like I can on the Elite.
Onto my 4 one 😂
Ya it’s crazy today I was thinking about just buying the core bc I’ve gone thru 3 elite 2’s myself. Just hoping to save a little money but I’m sure this thing will end up drifting or bumpers stop working as well
what about joystick drift?
With the amount of issues on the elite series 2, i’ll stick with my scuf. It can do most things the elite series 2 can do anywho
Except it can’t 😭
I wish they made a controller shaped like a PlayStation controller that works on Xbox
Scuf made them for xbox but idk what happened to that, I saw them a couple years ago but not anymore
I thought this was a comparison video but he just glazed elite for 6 mins 😭
He didn’t even go over all of the features of the controller is what’s crazy lol just a better controller there’s not much to say about the scuff
Let’s get an update review on that Xbox series 2 controller.. I guarantee you’re having issues with it.
I've been using Elite 2 and I love it. I'm still interested on checking out the scuff controller. But I'm checking out the one for PS5. good review. thanks
Everyone here has owned an elite controller this review gave me no information about how the scuf wears. Are they paddles more responsive and less likely to shit themself? Anyone know?
The paddles on the back of the instinct pro are fine. They are actually buttons instead of paddles. The model before had actual plastic paddles that broke all the time. I have owned 3 instinct pros and the right sided stick drift is a serious problem. As a CoD player that is ridiculous. That's why I am looking for a new controller.
@@quiltedstatue1325 ooo you mightve sold me
oh until i read the entire pitch haha
Honestly, go with scuff instict. I've owned both, and personally, i like instict Pro for a few reasons 1:it doesnt get stick drift as quick. 2:paddles work better(my paddles broke really quick with my elite series 2).And 3 when my headset broke i could use the instict pro mic
I’ve never owned a scuf but the Xbox elite will most likely have issues the first week in I’ve been through 3 and my Xbox stock controllers have lasted 3 times longer than any elite I’ve had
Ive had both one being a custom scuf (instinct) and a elite 2 the custom one paddle went out after a accidental fall from maybe 3 ft. The elite 2 literally fell apart after a month, the lock triggers literally locked and would not shoot on fps and the rb lb decided to ejecto seato cuz felt good with bot the elite feeling more durable but not in reality. As far as customisable you can custmize the scuf the way you want with some cost (duh) but you cant with the elite at a lower cost, limited colors, not much difference from the scuf other than a little mor durable feeling but the scuf feels 100xs more comfortable in my own opinion. This is all opinion after owning both but after the constant deaths from the elite on ranked modes. Ill be ordering a scuf again. All comes down to the person both have pros and cons. Scuf did up the warranty to 1 year vs 6 months just like the elite look futher into the cons of both before buying not just how great the customizing is
The elite core btw you have to buy the paddles charger and all accessories do not buy it if you expect paddles or accessories
The core is a stock controller you can buy accessories for basically
I've had my elite 2 since launch and it's perfect. I just treat my expensive things carefully
@@RefrigeratedTP I enjoyed and liked elite very much but it fell apart with the gaming I did which im sure will be figured out eventually but if you game as much as me even with a full time job it just needs a few upgrades for the price for the serious gamers and also there can be bad batches no matter the company. Hope yours last longer than mine!
Mostly being the rb lb 1&2 both wore and was unstable depends on the games as well Not in anyway saying the elite is bad if that one very common issue if you look it up is fixed then it's great
Dude, you didnt address any if the quality issues with the elite series 2, its like a nice looking car that runs like crap.
Nothing about the difference in triggers? Really? LoL
Small indicator that this comparison is skewed towards the Series 2.
@@g.o.9513I’ve had 2 lol . And the bumpers suck
I’m on my 4th brand new elite controller it’s my favorite having a 2 year warranty is a blessing lol 💯 changed 2 in one day bumpers suck! Lol
With the elite series 2 it has more features but the features that the scuf does have they are much better then the elite series 2 for example the back paddles on the scuf is better and less click you need to do
I owned 2 elite series 2 controllers the first one came broken out the box because the trigger mechanism broke.
The replacement lasted 5 months and then firstly the tension sticks broke on me after 3 months (feeling like the hardest setting on the loosest) this happened on both sticks.
Then the LB bumper started to become unresponsive so I quickly returned to Amazon for a full refund.
I have no bought a Scuf instinct pro but it hasn’t arrived yet.
The elite series 2 is not a good quality controller it’s an over engineered nightmare of a controller.
Do not buy it unless you get a warranty because it will probably break after 6 months and for a £150+ controller you’d expect it to last for a while longer than 6 months.
I have and have had both controllers. My elite series 2 has RB problems where it wont register unless you press it in a certain area of the button. My scuf I had almost 2 years and its just now starting to get stick drift. If there is a newer production model of the elite series 2 that has fixed these issues. Then maybe I would try the elite series core and just use my previous series 2 pieces. But as for now if you want overall quality, nothing beats the Scuf.
It’s the same I have the same problem with the newest elite control
I'm going for scuf because of the built in mic
Xbox is hard to say is a “better controller” when they just fluffing the buyer with extra extras like sticks and trigger 3-ways… to a competitive gamer, we know, the Xbox controller is not it because it’s capped at 230MHZ and the scuf can be clocked to 1000mhz… which makes its response time way more viable… it’s like getting a car and the seller saying this may be a v6 but it’s got heated seats…. Compared to the v8 model
I like elite series but i had to buy like 6 of them in 4 years. They break down reall fast
Series 2 is the better option.
Bumpers have busted on 3 of my pro controllers and you can't fix that module in the controller like you could with the series 1. Idk I play PC and PlayStation is leagues ahead on the controller side of things if you ask me. I beat mine to hell and have absolutely zero issues with them. Xbox needs to step up their game
i had 9 elites 2s in 1 year. Terrible always breaks
The elite 2 is half the price of the scuf I am seeing 110 for a elite and 210-270 on a scuf
There absolutely no difference then the core. I combined the parts rom a series 2 to a series 2 core. Everything the exact same. Mother board and buttons.
I've had both. I like the feel of the scuf, but it's not very reliable. It only comes with a 6mo warranty and both of my controllers developed stick drift bad. I moved to the elite 2 and it's been great for 2 years. Scuf has awful customer support. Not that Microsoft wins any records there either.
The elite series 2 controller case is god awful, its like they didnt even bother to QC it before packaging and sending them off. The case is nowhere near deep enough for holding the controller plus charging dock and cords.
i think ill just buy the case of the elite 2
Idk how anyone can recommend the elite series 2 pro controller. The buttons break in weeks.
Nice comparison 👌👌
So I use both regularly and I noticed the elite series 2 is prone to getting stick drift in the right stick vs the scuf pro controller and when you use the right stick to crouch/prone like I do it just accelerates the initial stick drift
that's a lot of money for a controller that requires AA batteries. that's crazy.
Ps player?
Has anyone noticed that the elite series 2 is controlling the back right screen?😂
Ok so every single elite 2 I owned were 2nd hand I never experience drift or anything ridiculous I had purchased a elite 2 core white edition brand new I have 0 issues been using it since Christmas Verizon just shipped me out a brand new elite series 2 black for free promotion and I’m excited for it I have literally no problems with used elites or new I want a scuff but I don’t wanna dish out 220 + cus I’ll customize it pc gamer ** btw and I could never play with a stock remote ever since I switched to elite remotes always buy game stops warranty they will swap out the remote for any reason I spilled water on one of mine and they swapped out as long as it’s in stock & keep your box so you don’t deal with the issue
So from what I get from all the reviews I watch the elite series is a waste of money just grab a scuf…
The best premium Xbox controller would probably be a PS5 controller like the reflex pro, using an adapter for compatibility on xbox. Too much deadzone in the Xbox controllers although I still like using them. I prefer the shape and grip of the PS5 controller as well. The King Kong Pro 2 is potentially even better , with an adapter, since it basically has no deadzone. My main issue is that it doesnt have stick tension adjustments. A little too easy to move for my tastes. No back paddles either.
Was going to invest in the Kong but dosnt have the back paddles 😢
@@The91jesus Right. That could be a problem for FPS players that really utilise that feature. In my case I play through everything from ancient to very new, but many different genres.
PlayStation controllers suck
@@johncastillo2194 that’s true none of the buttons work
Dead zone is software bro not the controller because Xbox controller is fine on pc
Thanks Bud .
I’ve gone through 3 elevate controllers in 2 Years my warranty just ended and my bumper is fcked… poor quality controller
This video sounds more of a “why the elite series 2 is better than a scuff” video 😂 im hearing high quality this and that but everyone in the comments say it breaks easily 😂
i bought an astro c40. Better than both of these IMO.
Can u send me one please I can't afford one if u got one that I don't use
It can be just a regular controller for Xbox
Elite 2 breaks alot
Elite 2 is customizable garbage.
I've had 3- all have had problems. The first- the shoulder buttons stopped working. Second one, thumb stick stopped registering the click press. I remapped to a removable trigger- which comes out too easy and gets lost(good thing I have 3 full sets, right?).
The last one- the rubber grips bubbled, I had to peel them off. Now, the d-pad got stuck- it makes everything go up on the screen. All the nubs(that set the range of the trigger) on all 3 controllers came off long ago.
Its just one thing after another.
As for the warranty, I had to set an appt at a best Buy 100 miles away-just so they can look at it! I haven't had this many issues since the xbox red ring of death!
Never again. None lasted over a year.
Anything. ANYTHING has to be more durable than this junk!😑
People that get stick drift clearly need to breathe when they play with their controllers, you dont need to grip the controller for dear life and abuse it, slow is smooth, smooth is fast
You do realize stick drift is INEVITABLE for potentiometer thumb stick modules. You can get drift out of the box sometimes. Don’t speak on something you don’t know anything about.
Scuf is better.
Xbox controller triggers are cheap
Video is def biased prob sponsored or works for Microsoft lol 😂
Don't get elite . Had 3 all faulty
They both are terrible.. elite last longer!
Wdym
No way in hell the elite is better
Lost me at batteries
is there something you need me to make a video on with my channel?